1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:01,880 Speaker 1: Somewhere in the city. 2 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:08,399 Speaker 2: To define holiday magine is a man who wants a 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 2: little eggnog with his missiletone, and that guy would like 4 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 2: to carol you chance, featuring the musical styling, the Meltney 5 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 2: and the colored Singer, straight ahead, everything you need to 6 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: know about the headlines of the day, and a perspective 7 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 2: to give some eternity to it. Claus Practical tips for 8 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 2: family life, spiritual life, and good old regular life. It's 9 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 2: Kevin mccallough Monday through Friday on That Kevin Show and 10 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: now from the Legendary Honors in Sullivan Broadcast Studios. The 11 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: man who is not what he wants to be, but 12 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: he's way grateful that he is not what he used 13 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 2: to be. 14 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 3: Here all right, friends, thank you, it's Tuesday, and we're 15 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 3: glad you're with us. Eight eight eight six nine two 16 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 3: seven two three four. If you want to weigh in 17 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 3: on anything related to the news of the day, we 18 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 3: have got an enormous show for you today. We hope 19 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 3: we're we're working on this. Phil Boyce and the bosses 20 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 3: even are helping us on this, but we're we're hoping 21 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 3: to speak with yaiel Ekstein of the International Fellowship of 22 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 3: Christian and Jews before the show's over to get an 23 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 3: update on all things related to the Hanukkah shooting in Australia. 24 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 3: As you can imagine, the Jewish community worldwide is still 25 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 3: very much mourning what they have been through in the 26 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 3: last few days, and we just want to be of 27 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 3: support in any way that we can and appre of that. 28 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 3: How do we live? Dave Stone is back with us 29 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 3: from the Focus on the Family Universe. We've also got 30 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 3: Hans von Spakowski, the man who has the funnest name 31 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 3: to pronounce in all radio rejoining us hopefully today. Katie 32 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 3: McFarlane and a little bit later Emily Sturge, who is 33 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 3: part of the Leadership Institute's publication called Campus Reform. What 34 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 3: she basically does is she just egalize all of the 35 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 3: college campus issues that are related to educational freedom, religious liberties, 36 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 3: students that you know are being how they're being treated 37 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 3: on campus and so forth. Campus Reform is, as its 38 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 3: name would imply, about bringing reform to the college campus. 39 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 3: So that's that's where we're at with that, and she 40 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 3: will be with us before the end of the day 41 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 3: today along with Katie McFarlane Katie is one of these 42 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 3: people that when you look at her resume, just your 43 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 3: jaw drops. She's served, I think for different presidents. She's 44 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 3: been in the Pentagon and the civilian side, but her 45 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 3: rank was the equivalent of a four star general or 46 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 3: a four star admiral. I think she's more of a 47 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 3: Navy navy person myself than than army. And and they 48 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 3: beat him this last weekend, which was all that mattered anyway. 49 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 3: Glad you're here, big story breaking, and you know there 50 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 3: are going to be some of you that are gonna say, keV, 51 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 3: why why do you? Why do you tiptoe into the 52 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 3: political what seems like an awful lot If you're a 53 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 3: believer and your mandate is to be sharing the gospel, 54 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 3: why why do you why do you touch on politics? Well, 55 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 3: one of the main reasons that we do is so 56 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 3: that we are informed, so that as believers participating in 57 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 3: and living the life of Americans, where we've been given 58 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 3: this extraordinary privilege to be the rulers of our nation. 59 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 3: A lot of people listening to me think that the 60 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 3: president is the one that rules our nation. He doesn't. 61 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 3: It's we the people. We hire the president, we fire 62 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 3: the president. Or the president times out and then we 63 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 3: hire a new president. But in any of those instances, 64 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 3: it's still we the people that do that. So if 65 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 3: we are going to rule our nation justly, we need 66 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 3: to think clearly about the implications of what we do. 67 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 3: And from that standpoint, politics matters. Politics is in the 68 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 3: Bible Jeremiah twenty nine. We are supposed to work for 69 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:45,799 Speaker 3: the welfare of the city. Jesus confronted politicians, but Jesus 70 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 3: said for us to use the influence that we have 71 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 3: to bring about his kingdom, you can't do that in 72 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 3: a vacuum. So in a political world, Christians and politics 73 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 3: have to mix. The question is not what or not 74 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 3: they should or will, The question is how they do. 75 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 3: And that's why we check in with a pastor every week, 76 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 3: every day and say, how do we live in this culture? 77 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 3: And a culture that hates God, despises his word, really 78 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 3: seeks to demean and degrade those who do follow them. 79 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 3: Then how we live kind of matters. And in that vein, 80 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 3: I want to bring this story to you because some 81 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,559 Speaker 3: of you will say, oh, that's just a Trump story, 82 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 3: doesn't matter. Well, I just hear me out on this. 83 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 3: The foundational principle of justice in our nation is not 84 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 3: whether you win or lose, it's whether fairness is in 85 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 3: the process. It's not about political outcomes, it's about integrity. 86 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 3: And the recent release of emails that came to the 87 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 3: forefront this morning by FBI agents where they said they 88 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 3: doubted whether or not there was probable cause to raid 89 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 3: mar A Lago back when you remember they six thirty 90 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 3: am raid the former president. At the time, the former 91 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 3: president and currently the president was not at home when 92 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 3: they did this, but they rummaged through all of his 93 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 3: stuff and they went into like Milania's like law as 94 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 3: your raid drawer. They were in all sorts of places 95 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 3: just going through his stuff. And when that raid went forward, 96 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 3: it went forward. What we are now discovering from emails 97 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 3: from pressure from the Justice Department, it underscores a fundamental truth. 98 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 3: Procedural integrity matters as much as substantive outcomes. And friends, 99 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 3: I would encourage you to think about this not only 100 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 3: just in terms of politics, but in terms of relationships, 101 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 3: in terms of people that you work with, that you know, 102 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 3: that you live with. That people are at the end 103 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 3: of the day, the only resource in your life that 104 00:06:55,240 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 3: really matters everything else burns. You want to see a bitter, 105 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 3: shriveled up, angry group of people. Look at people that 106 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 3: end up treating people horribly throughout their life. They don't 107 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 3: die happy, and you can see it in how they 108 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 3: treat people. You can see it, and how they lead 109 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 3: their lives. Their lives are oftentimes cluttered with a lot 110 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 3: of brokenness, etc. But the procedural integrity, so when you 111 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 3: and a friend have a conflict, making sure that facts 112 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 3: are established and that truth is told and that context 113 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 3: is understood is just basic fairness to whoever's involved. According 114 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 3: to newly declassified communications between the FBI and the Department 115 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 3: of Justice, there were internal warnings, not just casual doubts, 116 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 3: but laid out explicit concerns from experienced door kickers FBI 117 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 3: agents that the evidence supporting that search was not strong 118 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 3: enough to meet probable cause standards. One special assistant Special 119 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 3: Agent in charge wrote that very little had been developed 120 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 3: about who might be culpable for mishandling documents, and that 121 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 3: the information available was a single source and possibly dated. 122 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 3: Despite this, the FBI pushed to have that raid executed. Anyway. Now, 123 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 3: consider for a moment, if trained investigators can articulate, can 124 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 3: articulate credible reasons why probable cause may be lacking that 125 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 3: should trigger a thorough review, not a march toward execution. 126 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 3: And that's what basically that raid on his home was about. 127 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 3: It was about finding files and finding evidence that was 128 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 3: supposedly not supposed to be there, which is kind of 129 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 3: not an understanding of the Presidential Documents Act. And people 130 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 3: that were charged to do the search said, I, this 131 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 3: is not We're not doing the right thing here. Fortunately, 132 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 3: God had other plans for the president and the country 133 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 3: and it seems to have worked out. But that was 134 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 3: one of those things that they were trying to use 135 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 3: to take him down and to throw him in jail. 136 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 3: They wanted they wanted to jail the president and say 137 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 3: he shouldn't be he shouldn't be president because of this, 138 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 3: And it turns out it was not. It was not 139 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 3: built on fact, and then the search itself wasn't built 140 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 3: on integrity. All Right, We've got a lot to get to. 141 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 4: UH. 142 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 3: We're gonna ask the big question how do we live? 143 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 3: In the next segment, UH, and a little bit later on, 144 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 3: hopefully a live report from Israel on what's going on 145 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 3: in relationship to the Australia shooting. Don't go anywhere else 146 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 3: that Kevin. 147 00:09:53,840 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 5: Chacks here he is from New York, Kevin Kevin. 148 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 3: Mckella, all right, that Kevin Show, that kevinshow dot com 149 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 3: for everything you're looking for. It's a lot of fun 150 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 3: to go over there. Check it out, stay with us 151 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 3: in the off hours when we're not on the air, 152 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 3: but we're also part of the Salem podcast networks. To 153 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 3: go check that out and then you know, follow us 154 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 3: like us, tell others about it. What we're trying to 155 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 3: do every day is just to help impact how you 156 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 3: think so that you can make the best decisions possible, 157 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 3: because I feel like that's what God asks of us, 158 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 3: to be good stewards of everything that He puts in 159 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 3: our path. This is the portion of the show, though, 160 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 3: that we kind of try to shape that mind, and 161 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 3: we try to shape it based on truth, and we 162 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 3: assert here we're not cloudy about this at all. We 163 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 3: try to assert here that scripture is the highest form 164 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 3: of authority that we recognize in this life for all 165 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 3: that He intended for us to be, which is not 166 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 3: just someone who says, God save me and then let 167 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 3: me sit on the sidelines and be ineffective and just 168 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 3: wait for my time to join you in heaven. No, 169 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 3: he saves us for a purpose. He gives us a mission. 170 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 3: We are on mission to tell others about him. The 171 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 3: Gospel is the message of salvation. It saved you, it 172 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 3: will save others. But we are involved in that process. 173 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 3: So how do we live that out in this culture 174 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 3: where people may have a very strong disliking of God. 175 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 3: They may revile his word, and there's a lot of 176 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 3: that going on these days, and they may say, if 177 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 3: you like those two things, you must not be a 178 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 3: very good person either. How do we live winsomely, live 179 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 3: on mission, live obediently in the midst of that? And 180 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 3: there's different aspects that we struggle with all the time 181 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 3: trying to be that person. And that's why we want 182 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 3: to ask this question, how do we live right here 183 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 3: at this same point in time every day. Pastor Dave 184 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 3: Stone is the host of the Pastor to Pastor podcast 185 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 3: with Focus on the Family. It's actually their newest podcast 186 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 3: and he has been a pastor for thirty years. He's 187 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 3: a member of the Focus on the Family board of 188 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 3: directors and a friend of course Focus as a friend 189 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 3: of this show, Big time Jim Daily bought my fifteen 190 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 3: year old a Onesie Eminem eminem Onesie from the Eminem 191 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 3: store the first time that he came after he became 192 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 3: president of Focus on the Family, and we've been friends 193 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 3: ever since. I guess if you buy your kids Onesie's Dave, 194 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 3: you become fast friends. But yesterday we opened a discussion 195 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 3: in John chapter eleven about Lazarus, and we found that 196 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 3: there was this little insertion that John really wanted to 197 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 3: make sure we understood that what we're reading, though it 198 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 3: seems very tragic at the beginning of this chapter, that 199 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 3: the context, the backdrop, the ethos in which it was 200 00:12:56,400 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 3: all unplaying in the midst of was that Jesus loved 201 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 3: those that it was happening to pick up the story 202 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 3: from where we left off. 203 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, I love that word backdrop that you'd use. 204 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 4: Because the disciples are far far away from Bethany, Mary 205 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,599 Speaker 4: and Martha's in the text message or I don't know 206 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 4: how they got word to them, but they get word 207 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 4: to Jesus and say, hey, our brother is dying. You 208 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 4: need to come back and heal him. And Jesus stays put. 209 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 4: And just before that is that line now Jesus loved 210 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 4: Martha and Mary and Lazarus. 211 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 6: But Jesus stays put. 212 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 4: When he finally comes back, we pick up the story 213 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 4: Lazarus has. 214 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 6: Been dead for four days. 215 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 4: And what's interesting, Kevin, is that in John eleven, verse 216 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 4: twenty one, Martha says something to Jesus. She comes out 217 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 4: and meets him. When she hears he's almost into town, 218 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 4: she comes out and meets him. 219 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 6: She says something to Jesus. 220 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 4: And when Mary is there at Lazaru's house and Jesus 221 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 4: comes up, she says something to Jesus. They both say 222 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 4: exactly the same thing. They both say, Lord, if you 223 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 4: had been here, my brother would not have died. And 224 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,679 Speaker 4: I don't think that they say this with a Southern 225 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 4: twang like they work at Chick fil a, very sweet, spirited. 226 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 4: You know, Lord, if you would have been here, my 227 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 4: brother would not have died. I don't think they say 228 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 4: it that way. I think that there is frustration. I 229 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 4: think there's a bite to it. You know, Jesus, you're 230 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 4: healing everybody else. Your good friend needs you. We beg 231 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 4: for you to come, and we find out now that 232 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 4: you didn't come. Then you waited two more days and 233 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 4: so they're hacked off at him, and it's this basic 234 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 4: it's this reprise that King David used to always say 235 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 4: in the Psalms. It's like, how long? How long will 236 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 4: we wait? How long must I wrestle? How long must 237 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 4: I wait? In being wounded by you? Did you know 238 00:14:54,480 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 4: that the Psalms say that phrase how long twenty different times? 239 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 4: And I promise you there are thousands of your listeners 240 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 4: across the country right now are in that season and 241 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 4: they got the lump in their throat and they're listening 242 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 4: to this in their car or while they're washing dishes, 243 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 4: or while they're working out, and they're just thinking, yeah, 244 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 4: that's me. 245 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 6: How long? 246 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 4: I mean, I've asked and I begged for God to 247 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 4: show up, and he didn't. 248 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 6: He didn't show up. 249 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 4: And while you're waiting or while you're wounded, the challenge 250 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 4: is will you remain faithful and will you trust it? 251 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 6: In the midst of. 252 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 4: A fallen world, in the society where it seems like 253 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 4: God is silent? Will you trust that he's not silent, 254 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 4: that he's still working, that he's involved. 255 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 6: In your life, and that you can't trust him? 256 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 3: That is that's hard stuff to overcome. Dave, So what 257 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 3: do we see happen here? How does it unfold? 258 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 4: Well, I'm glad you asked that, because Jesus gets the 259 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 4: exact same question from both ladies, both sisters. You know, 260 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 4: if you would have been here, my brother would still 261 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 4: be alive. But Jesus gives each of them a different answer. 262 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 4: So Martha comes out, he gives this question to Jesus, 263 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 4: and Jesus looks at her and says, Martha, I am 264 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 4: the resurrection and the life he who believes in me. 265 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 4: Though they were dead, yet shall they live? So that's 266 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 4: the answer that he gives to Martha. But when he 267 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 4: gets closer, a couple of miles closer, and now he's 268 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 4: at the home of Lazarus, Mary comes out and she 269 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 4: says the same thing, Well, if you would have been here, 270 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 4: my brother would not be dead. And Jesus' shortest version 271 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 4: in all the Bible, my friends John eleven thirty five. 272 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 4: Jesus wept, and Jesus weeps with her, and it's a 273 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 4: powerful picture. You say, well, what's the significance of the fact. 274 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 4: What's the significant against the fact that both of them 275 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 4: said the same thing, and yet they get a totally 276 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 4: different response. 277 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 6: From him. Well, here's the significance. 278 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 4: The God in the universe, Jesus Christ, God in the flesh, 279 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 4: knows exactly what you need. He is both a powerful 280 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 4: God and a personal God. And he knew that Martha 281 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 4: needed a lesson. I am the Resurrection in the life. 282 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 4: What Mary needed was love. And so he gives each 283 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 4: of them exactly what it is that they need. He 284 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 4: gives want a lesson on the fact that hey, I 285 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 4: am the Resurrection. 286 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 6: It's going to be okay. 287 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 4: And with Mary, he just we think probably cries with 288 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 4: her alongside of her years. And it's reassuring to us 289 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 4: today two thousand years later that God knows exactly what 290 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 4: you need, whether you need a friend to come in 291 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 4: your life, whether you need a church family that you 292 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 4: can be a part of, whether you need a radio 293 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 4: broadcast that you tune into every day with Kevin, because 294 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 4: you know he's going to give you some tools for 295 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 4: how it is that you can live the Christian life 296 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 4: and a life that is antagonistic to Scripture and antagonistic 297 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 4: to Christianity. Whatever it is that you need, God will 298 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 4: supply that for you. Cast all your cares on Him 299 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 4: because He cares for. 300 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 3: You and I'm thinking even one step further day because 301 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 3: this is such a powerful moment. In the Chosen television 302 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 3: series version, they show him actually kneel with her, and 303 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 3: it's as though he comes to her level. But I 304 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 3: kind of sense that in the language of the text 305 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 3: as well, that she is weeping. She's not bitter, she 306 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 3: is sad. When she says it, you kind of feel 307 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 3: the bite that Martha has, but with Mary, it's heartbreak 308 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 3: and he enters into that with her. And I'm thinking 309 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 3: that in this Christmas season, at this point in time, 310 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 3: with it just being a few days away, there may 311 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 3: be people in your circle friend listening that you know 312 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 3: are bitter or hurt. They need some piece of information 313 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 3: or encouragement in a way that that that speaks directly 314 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 3: to the knowledge of what they believe. But you may 315 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 3: also know people who are heartbroken, and yes, this season 316 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 3: is the is the best season of all to get 317 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 3: them to that Christmas Eve service with you, to welcome 318 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 3: them over for some hot chocolate afterwards, to say how 319 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 3: can how can I be the child and the manger 320 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 3: to you this year? To those that are doing that, 321 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 3: and and the and the key that I kind of 322 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 3: take away from what you're saying here, Dave, is that 323 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 3: Jesus wasn't afraid to enter into it with her. In fact, 324 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 3: he got right on her level. He felt right what 325 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 3: she was feeling, and he was there with her. A 326 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 3: lot of times, it's just showing up a lot of times, 327 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 3: it's not having all of the answers to all of 328 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 3: the spiritual debated questions. Sometimes it's just being. 329 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 4: There, yeah, and just having that listening ear and saying, 330 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 4: you know what, Just tell me what's on your heart, 331 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 4: tell me what's on your mind. 332 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 6: Lee Strobel says, one out. 333 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 4: Of every two people that you invite to a Christmas 334 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 4: service or an Easter service will say yes. And they 335 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 4: might be mad at God, but they might be open 336 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 4: to a spiritual invitation. And who knows what could take 337 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 4: place because of your invitation and getting them to come 338 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 4: to something like that. 339 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 3: So take someone with you this year, friends, Just one 340 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 3: quick takeaway, because Jesus will enter into it with you. 341 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 3: He'll meet them there. That's the promise. Dave Stone, host 342 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 3: of the Pastor to Pastor with Dave Stone podcast from 343 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 3: Focus on the Family, coming back tomorrow to continue this discussion. 344 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 3: Thanks so much. It's Kevin mcaullugh, Uncle. 345 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: Why. 346 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 5: Here he is from New York. 347 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: That Kevin. 348 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 3: Kevin mccalloch, Welcome back to That Kevin Show. Kevin McCollough. 349 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 3: Glad to be with you. That kevinshow dot Com for 350 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:22,959 Speaker 3: all things related to the show, including podcasts, videos, my column, 351 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 3: my daily column at town Hall, and more. This week, 352 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 3: the Supreme Court took on a case that I think 353 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 3: is going to have some pretty big impact on the 354 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 3: shape of a lot of things in the culture. When 355 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 3: you talk about birthright citizenship, you're talking about something that 356 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 3: has been weaponized by people with ill intent towards our country, 357 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 3: and increasingly there are people asking for this to be reviewed, 358 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 3: and now the Supreme Court has said that it will 359 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 3: take a look at it. Hans von Spakowski is back 360 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 3: with us from Heritage Foundation. He's written about this. Hans, 361 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 3: It's not just Heritage, it's not just you. This is 362 00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 3: kind of a universal issue of concern across pretty common 363 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 3: sense America. What first of all, helped my viewers and 364 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 3: listeners understand specifically what we're talking about and why it's 365 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 3: become such an important issue. 366 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 7: We're talking about a very short sentence in the Fourteenth 367 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 7: Amendment Remember, the fourteenth Amendment was one of the ones, 368 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 7: one of the reconstruction amendments passed after the Civil War 369 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 7: was passed to ensure the slaves and their children would 370 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 7: be considered US citizens. So basically, there's a citizenship clause, 371 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,719 Speaker 7: and what it says is is that you are a 372 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 7: citizen if you are born or in the US, and 373 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 7: in fact you are under the jurisdiction, you owe your 374 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 7: jurisdiction to the United States. What that means, that second 375 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 7: phrase basically is pretty much ignored by everyone pushing for 376 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 7: birthright citizenship. They say, if you're born in the US, 377 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 7: you're a US citizen. No, what that phrase was meant 378 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 7: by the sponsors was that you. 379 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: When you're born in the US, you owe. 380 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 7: Your political allegiance to the United States. The best way 381 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 7: to I think illustrate this is, look, if you're a 382 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 7: German tourist and you're in the United States and you 383 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 7: give birth, your child is a German citizen and you 384 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 7: as a child owe your political allegiance to the German government, 385 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 7: not the US government. So that means that children of 386 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 7: illegal aliens, for example, they are not citizens of the 387 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 7: United States. 388 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: Why because they owe their political. 389 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 7: Allegiance to the country of their parents. Now, Kevin, that 390 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 7: has been that was the understanding of that phrase. 391 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: For the first seventy years it was in place. 392 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 7: It's only in the last sixty or seventy years that 393 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 7: all of a sudden that changed and the federal government 394 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 7: others started saying, oh, no, if you're born in the US, 395 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 7: you're citizen, no matter what. It's a very dangerous concept, 396 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 7: which is why almost no other nation in the world 397 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 7: recognizes birthright citizenship. We are one of the few. And 398 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 7: it is not because the constitution requires it. No matter 399 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 7: what you hear the supporters of it say, I mean, 400 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 7: it's just it's really a crazy idea, the idea that 401 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 7: if you break the law to smuggle yourself into the US, 402 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 7: that your children, if they're born here, are suddenly a 403 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 7: US citizen. Now the other side looks back to I 404 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 7: should tell you, look, the Spring Court hasn't looked. 405 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: At this in like almost one hundred and thirty years. 406 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 7: The last time they had a significant decision on this 407 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 7: was in the late eighteen hundreds and it involved the 408 00:24:55,920 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 7: child of permanent resident aliens. In that case, the court said, yeah, 409 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 7: that child is a US citizen. I don't think they 410 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 7: interpreted the law correctly. But even under that case, there 411 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 7: wasn't anything in there about people who are in the 412 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 7: US illegally. 413 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: And that's why. 414 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 7: You know, what generated this case that's now before Supreme 415 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 7: Court is that President Trump issued an executive order saying 416 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 7: that US passports would only be issued to individuals who, 417 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 7: when they're born in the US, at least one of 418 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 7: their parents is either a US citizen or a permanent 419 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 7: resident alien. In other words, you know, they're abiding by 420 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 7: that one hundred and thirty year old Supreme Court decision. 421 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 7: But again, that does not mean that the children of 422 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 7: illegal aliens are US citizens yet. 423 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 3: And I didn't hear you answer my question specifically, why 424 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 3: does the left fight for this with such fury? 425 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 7: Well, I think it's the very same reason that they 426 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 7: were all in favor of the open borders policies of 427 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 7: the prior administration. They believe that this huge influx of 428 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 7: aliens in the US, that these individuals, when they become citizens, 429 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 7: when they vote, will vote for them and keep them 430 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 7: in power. I think that's exactly what it is. It's 431 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 7: purely a political power objective on their side. 432 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 3: Well, and the reason I wanted you to clarify that 433 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 3: is because I wanted to make this statement in that context. 434 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 3: They are wanting planned actual American citizens with people that 435 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 3: are not actual American citizens, and they want to supplant 436 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 3: their votes, they want to supplant their voices, they want 437 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 3: to supplant their political will, and they're literally importing an 438 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 3: alien army to do this. In this particular portion of it, 439 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 3: it happens to be through birth, but they figure it out. 440 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 3: If you can't, if you can't overtake them at the 441 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 3: ballot box, we'll just breed ourselves into dominance and overtake 442 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 3: what actual Americans want. 443 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 444 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 7: Unfortunately, I'm afraid that that's true. And that's, for example, 445 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 7: why we have this huge problem with immigration right now 446 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 7: of illegal immigrants, because that was the philosophy driving what 447 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 7: they did during the prior administration. 448 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 3: Let me ask you, the Court doesn't take everything that 449 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 3: comes to it. They've decided to weigh in on this. 450 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 3: How do you what do you read from that reaction. 451 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 7: They took it because they realize they've got to make 452 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 7: a decision on this. Like I said, Supreme Court has 453 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 7: never actually fully answered this question. The last case was 454 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 7: almost one hundred and thirty years ago, and it didn't 455 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 7: actually deal with the children of illegal aliens. 456 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: So this is this case is just as. 457 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 7: Significant as remember almost twenty years ago. Now when they 458 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 7: find decided what the Second Amendment meant. Well, they're finally 459 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 7: going to decide what that citizenship clause or the Fourteenth 460 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 7: Amendment means, and they look there is so much writing 461 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 7: on the decision that they make. They're going to be criticized. 462 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 7: I have no doubt whichever way they go. But what 463 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 7: they need to do is make a decision based not 464 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 7: on the modern and misinterpretation, but on the way the sponsors, 465 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 7: the Senators, the representatives who put that fourteenth Amendment through Congress. 466 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,719 Speaker 7: They made it very clear that birthright citizenship would not 467 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 7: apply in the US. And that's what the Supreme Court 468 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 7: needs to look at as that legislative history. 469 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, hansvan Pisbokowski, thank you for breaking it down for us. 470 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 3: It's always insightful to speak with you, and I appreciate 471 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 3: your time. 472 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 1: Sure, thanks for having me you. 473 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 3: Guys, Kevin McCullough coming right back from Times Square. Don't 474 00:28:56,200 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 3: go away. So glad to have you with us. It's 475 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 3: that Kevin show that kevinshow dot com. 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And as we 486 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 3: do that, we then understand that there are sometimes things 487 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 3: that don't work very well, and some times we have 488 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 3: discovered that the American family has really really had some 489 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 3: challenges in recent years. And so we're very very proud 490 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 3: at Salem Radio to have a deep and rich relationship 491 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 3: with Focus on the Family and everything that they do, 492 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 3: and I am thrilled that they touch so many lives 493 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 3: and they are their primary focus. A lot of people 494 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 3: thought Focus on the Family was maybe a political institution. No, no, no, no. 495 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 3: They fight the battle to help families sometimes in public policy, 496 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 3: but their main focus is to bring Jesus to families 497 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 3: and help him heal those families where they are. And 498 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 3: as I have been reading these stories of marriages put 499 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 3: back together and families whose you know, daughter or son, 500 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 3: I mean, look at look at the Rob Reiner story 501 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 3: from yesterday, and you know all the pain that's involved 502 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 3: there because of a family's dysfunction and a real hardship. 503 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 3: Well focused on the family. Does family help on all 504 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 3: those levels counseling and materials and everything. It's not just 505 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 3: the radio show, and we at Salem Media across the 506 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 3: country and the stations that you're listening to, many of 507 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 3: them owned by Salem, We would love for you to 508 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 3: in some way tangibly express your feelings toward Focus on 509 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 3: the family for what they have done in your life, 510 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 3: if they have helped you, because I think it would 511 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 3: be a great way to end the year and to 512 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 3: say thank you to them. And you know, they want 513 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 3: to keep fighting the good fight for families everywhere. They 514 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 3: want to make sure that more and more families are 515 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 3: helped in the coming years. So any gift that you 516 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 3: can give them between now and the end of the year, 517 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 3: they've got a match running and it really is going 518 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 3: to be a very important time for them in terms 519 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 3: of being able to, you know, provide those services for 520 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 3: families into the next year. So if you go to 521 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 3: focus on the Family dot Com Forward slash Christmas and 522 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 3: make your donation through that portal, they're going to be 523 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 3: able to double that gift because of a match that 524 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 3: has been enacted right now. And you're just going to 525 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 3: know that whatever amount you give twenty forty one hundred dollars, 526 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:15,719 Speaker 3: you're going to be helping another family find Jesus, find peace, 527 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 3: find resolve in their life in the midst of the 528 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 3: turbulence and the turmoil and all the pain that is 529 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 3: being experienced in the world today. You're going to be 530 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 3: someone that makes a difference along those lines. So I'm 531 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 3: very very thrilled to be able to tell you to 532 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 3: go to focus on the Family dot Com forward slash Christmas, 533 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 3: the focus on the Family dot Com forward slash Christmas 534 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 3: and give your best gift. Just help them say hey, 535 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 3: we want to be helpful in this regard in any 536 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 3: way that we possibly can and help keep those families 537 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 3: strong and keep them on track as we want to 538 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,479 Speaker 3: help more and more families find hope and peace and 539 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 3: love in the new year. All right, coming up next hour, 540 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 3: we're going to check in with Katie mcfaure arland on 541 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 3: a little foreign policy matter, what's going on in other 542 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 3: places around the globe besides America. Plus Emily Sturge a 543 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 3: bit later from a campus reform at the Leadership Institute. 544 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 3: It's gonna tell us some crazy stuff that's happening on 545 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 3: the college campus these days, and it really is crazy. 546 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 3: You will not believe how colleges are getting there their 547 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 3: kids ready for the final exams that they're taking here 548 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 3: the next couple of days. It's kind of mind blowing. 549 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 3: Get to all that and more on the second hour 550 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 3: of that Kevin Show. So don't leave town, as my 551 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 3: friend Larry Elders says, don't leave town. 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Do that there as well. 579 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 3: So go and check it out that kevinshow dot com 580 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 3: for everything related. Now I have a question for you. 581 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 3: This is really funny. I think it's hilarious. Actually, the 582 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 3: Trump White House has announced that it will vote no 583 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 3: on whether or not they will grant Biden an attempt 584 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 3: to quote shield auto pen presidency files. So here's what's happened. 585 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 3: Former President Joe Biden requested executive privilege amid the congressional 586 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 3: investigations into his administration's use of the auto pen. Remember 587 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 3: the auto pen. I talked about it last week. With 588 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:20,760 Speaker 3: the Trump administration rejecting the request, that just is funny 589 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 3: to me, Like they thought, yeah, sure, well yeah, of course, 590 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 3: the speaking as as the former president, Biden requested, saying, 591 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 3: I am concerned that the disclosure of these materials would 592 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:43,920 Speaker 3: damage important institutional interests of the presidency, including by impairing 593 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 3: the ability of future presidents to receive robust, candid advice 594 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 3: from their close advisors. For these reasons, I hear by 595 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 3: assert executive privilege over the documents listed, and then he 596 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 3: had the autopen sign it gob kidding he didn't. He 597 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 3: doesn't have the autopen anymore. I don't think the autopen 598 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,720 Speaker 3: exists at the White House anymore, actually, and I actually 599 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 3: believe that it probably should not. I made this argument 600 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 3: the two weeks ago, maybe three weeks ago in the 601 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:16,359 Speaker 3: column at town Hall. But if there are so many 602 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 3: reasons why we should not have an autopen for the president, 603 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 3: and the most important one is this, his signature. His 604 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:32,359 Speaker 3: signature is fundamentally the most important national security asset that 605 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:39,799 Speaker 3: we have because his signature is the trigger. His signature 606 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 3: on a piece of legislation enacts it. His signature on 607 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 3: an executive order puts it into motion. The president's signature 608 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 3: on very important things is what actually creates that thing, 609 00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 3: that law, that action, that order for the military. So 610 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,319 Speaker 3: here's here's the bottom line. If you can't sign your 611 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 3: name as president, you should not be president. Yesterday we 612 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,840 Speaker 3: were talking about college kids that can't do first grade 613 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 3: math at the and they're in college. I don't know. 614 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 3: I don't know how they get into colleges not being 615 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 3: able to do first grade math. But San Diego State 616 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 3: University did a whole study on it. Only eighty four 617 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 3: percent of college kids can do first grade math. That 618 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 3: means there's one in one in five walking around that 619 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 3: can't do it at a first grade at first grade level. Now, 620 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 3: I'm gonna guess that the quality of those numbers, the 621 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 3: statistics kind of change if you're talking about going to 622 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 3: an Ivy League school versus going to, you know, a 623 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 3: junior college somewhere. But that's still a repulsive number. But 624 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:59,240 Speaker 3: there is no reason why we should have a president 625 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 3: who cannot sign his name. That shouldn't That shouldn't be 626 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 3: the case, like being able to put your signature on something. 627 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:12,799 Speaker 3: Should be, bottom line, the bare minimum of what we 628 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 3: expect from the president, should it not? Eight eight eight 629 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 3: six nine two seven two three fourth If you've got 630 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 3: thoughts on this. Biden went on to say in this 631 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 3: written request, I have raised no objections to multiple requests 632 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 3: for presidential records from my administration, most of which were 633 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 3: in boxes in my garage next to my next to 634 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 3: my convertible. And he says in hundreds of documents have 635 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 3: already been provided to Congress pursuant to those records, but 636 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 3: the records now proposed for release include documents reflecting presidential 637 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,280 Speaker 3: decision making and deliberations, and other materials that are protected 638 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 3: by executive privilege. Translated, my crew was talking in email 639 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 3: about how to sign these things without me knowing, and 640 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:03,919 Speaker 3: they're gonna get really mad at me if I don't 641 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 3: try to keep Congress from finding out what's there. That's 642 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 3: basically a literal translation of that paragraph. He also says, 643 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:20,839 Speaker 3: as President Trump has stated the abuse of the auto 644 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 3: pen that took place during the Biden presidency and the 645 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 3: extraordinary efforts to shield No, this is someone else. This 646 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 3: is Alex Warrington. 647 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 6: No. 648 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,399 Speaker 3: White House counsel David Warrington, responding to Biden, said, as 649 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 3: President Trump has stated, the abuse of the auto pen 650 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 3: that took place during the Biden presidency and the extraordinary 651 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 3: efforts to shield President Biden's diminished faculties from the public 652 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 3: must be subject to a full accounting to ensure that 653 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:48,320 Speaker 3: nothing similar ever happens again. In other words, look, we 654 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 3: know what happened. He didn't really win. He didn't really 655 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 3: get eighty one million votes. It was the weekend at 656 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 3: Bernie's presidency. They trotted him out. He kept trying to 657 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 3: shake hands with invisible people. He would forget where he was, 658 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 3: he'd forget who he was talking to. He couldn't remember names. 659 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 3: They had to put pictures on his place cards. When 660 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 3: he'd go out and, you know, do a press conference. 661 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 3: He would say things like, I'm going to get in 662 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 3: trouble if I don't stop the president getting in trouble 663 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 3: with who who puts the president in trouble like That's 664 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 3: but the other part of this is he was his 665 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:31,399 Speaker 3: skills were definitively diminishing, and as we went through those 666 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:37,799 Speaker 3: four years, they signed more executive actions than the two 667 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 3: presidents prior to him. Trump had a little over I 668 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,760 Speaker 3: think twenty five hundred executive actions of different varieties, Obama 669 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,240 Speaker 3: had in an eight year term. He had three thousand 670 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 3: in something. But Biden signed forty five hundred executive actions 671 00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 3: and orders and pardons and commutations and everything else in 672 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 3: a four year period. Homeboy was busy, except that we 673 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 3: now know that it wasn't him that a bunch of times, 674 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:17,839 Speaker 3: probably way more than should have been. They somebody, not him, 675 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 3: use the autopen for those for those executive actions. I 676 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 3: can't think of a bigger risk to our national security. 677 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:32,320 Speaker 3: And I can't think of any reason why the autopen 678 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,320 Speaker 3: should exist for the president if they if they want to, 679 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:40,799 Speaker 3: if they want to have, you know, something that can 680 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,839 Speaker 3: easily sign the Christmas card for the people that get 681 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,279 Speaker 3: the Christmas the White House Christmas Card or something like that, 682 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 3: then there should be some other mechanism by which that happens, 683 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 3: but the risk to actual fraud against our own nation 684 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:03,799 Speaker 3: and nation national insecurity is too great to sit there 685 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,879 Speaker 3: and say, yeah, let's keep this let's keep this technology going. 686 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 3: And I think that it probably was used for nefarious reasons, 687 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 3: and so by necessity, Biden doesn't want those details to 688 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 3: be known. It's it's a puzzling thing, as they say 689 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 3: down in Texas. Kevin mccallaugh, glad to be with you 690 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,279 Speaker 3: when we come back. Katie McFarlane's going to join me. 691 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 3: We're going to talk about some national security ramifications of 692 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,840 Speaker 3: various things. And Emily Sturge a bit later on crazy 693 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 3: Christmas college stuff. Let's stay with us. 694 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 9: This message is for anyone looking for five hundred thousand 695 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 9: to a million dollars or more of affordable term life insurance, 696 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,880 Speaker 9: even if you have diabetes, high blood pressure, or taking 697 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 9: anxiety mets. 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And I'm glad to welcome Kati McFarlane to 781 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,279 Speaker 3: the microphone because she knows stuff that I don't and 782 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,879 Speaker 3: I get smarter when I talk to her. So Kat, 783 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,600 Speaker 3: welcome back. Always good to have you. Former US Deputy 784 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:21,880 Speaker 3: National Security Advisor serving for presidents and five kids and 785 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,239 Speaker 3: eleven grandkids. I love that part. She's also a number 786 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:27,320 Speaker 3: one Amazon bestseller. Kat, It's good to have you. 787 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 14: It's always a pleasure. 788 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 6: Thank you, you got it. 789 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,680 Speaker 3: Hey A couple of things that I'm very, very curious about. 790 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:39,600 Speaker 3: The Venezuelan stuff doesn't seem to be dying down or 791 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:43,000 Speaker 3: going away. Someone was asking me this week if anybody 792 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,400 Speaker 3: thinks that it's going to be a realistic possibility if 793 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,800 Speaker 3: the Dems win in twenty six that they'll impeach Hegseth, 794 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,359 Speaker 3: and my response back to them was, Yeah, they're going 795 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,640 Speaker 3: to try to impeach everybody if they win in twenty six. 796 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,279 Speaker 3: That's just what they're going to do. But do you 797 00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,319 Speaker 3: see that story having many more legs to it. I mean, 798 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:03,319 Speaker 3: we're picking up whole tankers now of banned oil kt. 799 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:07,919 Speaker 3: I mean, Venezuela's been bad and we're the only ones 800 00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:08,960 Speaker 3: that are holding them accountable. 801 00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,800 Speaker 14: It'll be over by then, It'll be over before the election. 802 00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,440 Speaker 14: And here's why. But there's really a two pronged strategy 803 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 14: as far as I can tell. The first prong is 804 00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,279 Speaker 14: shooting the drug boats out of the water. Okay, I 805 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:26,759 Speaker 14: don't think anybody except maybe some Democratic senators has a 806 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:31,680 Speaker 14: lot of sympathy for drug runners and people importing fentonol 807 00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,440 Speaker 14: into the United States. So that's one thing. But the 808 00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,080 Speaker 14: second part of it, which is the most effective part 809 00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:41,120 Speaker 14: is the seizing the oil tankers. Now I've done the math, 810 00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:46,520 Speaker 14: and there are Maduro needs about two hundred million dollars 811 00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:50,440 Speaker 14: a week to pay for all of his military and 812 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:56,120 Speaker 14: his klepto cronies and getting keeping the government going. In Argentina, 813 00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,600 Speaker 14: he makes about two hundred million dollars a week. You 814 00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:05,760 Speaker 14: get take by selling illicitly, illegally selling oil to countries 815 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,880 Speaker 14: like China and other countries around the world, including for 816 00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,759 Speaker 14: European countries, although that's mostly they're Russians who were buying 817 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:17,120 Speaker 14: European Now how does this stuff move? Because it's again, 818 00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:21,600 Speaker 14: these are all sanctions sanctioned sales, and so they're not 819 00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,160 Speaker 14: supposed to happen. So how are they happening. There's about 820 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,680 Speaker 14: a thousand ghost ships, they're called it's the tanker fleet, 821 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 14: the ghost tanker fleet. We know where they are. We're 822 00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,399 Speaker 14: tracking them by GPS all the time. We know where 823 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 14: they are, where they're picking up oil, we know where 824 00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,600 Speaker 14: they're delivering it to. They're picking it up from Russia, 825 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:43,080 Speaker 14: from Iran and from Venezuela, and then they're delivering it 826 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,440 Speaker 14: to countries that are buying it literally on the black market. 827 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,719 Speaker 14: So what President tom started doing a week ago. Was 828 00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:53,160 Speaker 14: he started seizing those ships. There are a thousand of them, 829 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,920 Speaker 14: so one thousand. Now, we have nine hundred and ninety 830 00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,840 Speaker 14: nine to go. Let's start squeezing off the money for 831 00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:04,200 Speaker 14: to Maduro. He doesn't last long because he only has 832 00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:08,719 Speaker 14: about a billion dollars in reserves. So you start eliminating 833 00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:12,280 Speaker 14: his ability to find an income stream of two hundred 834 00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,280 Speaker 14: million dollars a week not too long before he's broke. 835 00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:19,439 Speaker 14: And nobody's loyal to Maduro. They're loyal because they're getting 836 00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,560 Speaker 14: paid off and they're getting you know, blackmail and all 837 00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,040 Speaker 14: the rest. But if Maduro looks vulnerable, I think it's 838 00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,440 Speaker 14: you know, I think and when President Trump says we're 839 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,640 Speaker 14: not going to oversture all him, he doesn't talk about 840 00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:34,080 Speaker 14: regime change. President Trump keeps saying his days are numbered, 841 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,879 Speaker 14: he's running out of time. What I think that means 842 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:38,439 Speaker 14: he's running out of money? 843 00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,840 Speaker 3: Well, and one equates to the other. It sounds like 844 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,320 Speaker 3: so it's I don't think that that's a far stretch 845 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,600 Speaker 3: at all. Let me let me ask you, pivoting just 846 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:52,080 Speaker 3: briefly to Ukraine and Russia, where are we at at present? 847 00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,480 Speaker 3: Is there any progress being made no, and I don't 848 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:56,080 Speaker 3: think there will be. 849 00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,680 Speaker 14: I think at the end of the day, the United 850 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,960 Speaker 14: States it's no longer paying for the war. So we 851 00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:05,720 Speaker 14: are selling weapons to the European countries, to NATO allies, 852 00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:09,040 Speaker 14: and they are donating them to Ukraine. Now they're not 853 00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,560 Speaker 14: doing it at the level that was happening two years ago. 854 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,439 Speaker 14: And they're even they're cutting back every couple of months 855 00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,360 Speaker 14: they cut the Europeans cut back a little bit, a 856 00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,200 Speaker 14: little bit. And so where is this going? I think 857 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:25,080 Speaker 14: Putin just keeps fighting because in large party can't afford 858 00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:29,280 Speaker 14: to keep fighting. Remember, he's selling oil in these hundred 859 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:34,520 Speaker 14: meets two thousand ghost tankers, and tragically and sadly and 860 00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:39,680 Speaker 14: just mind blowingly, guess who's buying the oil, Not just 861 00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:43,239 Speaker 14: the Chinese, not just the Indians, but the Europeans. So 862 00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,600 Speaker 14: the Europeans, on one hand, are saying to America, you 863 00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,840 Speaker 14: have to do more, you have to do more. And 864 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:52,359 Speaker 14: yet they're still they're still buying oil from Russia. They're 865 00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:56,080 Speaker 14: still enabling Russia to pay for this war, which. 866 00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,000 Speaker 3: And Putin's glad to do that. Just chew up, you know, 867 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,759 Speaker 3: his forces slowly and methodically for years and years, and 868 00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 3: you know, even if it's in you know, one inch 869 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:09,160 Speaker 3: a day, like just through attrition, we're out the other side. 870 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,960 Speaker 3: That's sad because Trump has done so much for the 871 00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:14,879 Speaker 3: rest of the planet and yet we haven't been able 872 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,640 Speaker 3: to find a breakthrough on that. And I don't I'm 873 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,040 Speaker 3: with you, I don't think that there will likely be one. 874 00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:24,040 Speaker 3: Let me shift gears to the anti Semitism issue. The 875 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:28,239 Speaker 3: attack in Australia, of course just heartbreaking by every level. 876 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,920 Speaker 3: But we you know, yesterday and I had a big 877 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:36,280 Speaker 3: monologue on this yesterday, Kat. The Fox News written reports 878 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,880 Speaker 3: on that story versus the UK Telegraphs written reports on 879 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,600 Speaker 3: that story were so different. The Fox piece, quoting primarily 880 00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:48,600 Speaker 3: Australian sources, refused to mention Islam, refused to mention largely 881 00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:52,160 Speaker 3: Jews or Hanukkah. The UK not only had the names 882 00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,240 Speaker 3: and identity of who the shooters were, but they already 883 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,719 Speaker 3: had some information about what schools the Sun had been 884 00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:01,839 Speaker 3: radicalized at, and even more in information coming from there. 885 00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,480 Speaker 3: It seems to me, and sadly, even this was, you know, 886 00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,320 Speaker 3: a Fox piece, it seems that that there is a 887 00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:13,719 Speaker 3: concerted effort to try to minimalize radical Islam when it 888 00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:17,960 Speaker 3: acts out, and that is I think encouraging the attacks 889 00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,080 Speaker 3: against Jews at a greater rate. Am I wrong? 890 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:25,000 Speaker 14: Oh, you're absolutely right. Every leader in the world should 891 00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,640 Speaker 14: come out and make a strong statement here we are 892 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:31,480 Speaker 14: in Hanukkah, and they should say, just even if it's words, 893 00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:36,319 Speaker 14: they should say, the Jewish people are noble people. They 894 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:40,799 Speaker 14: have phone rights and responsibilities of any of our citizens, 895 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:45,360 Speaker 14: and anti Semitism will not be tolerated by anybody. 896 00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:46,560 Speaker 15: And they won't do it. 897 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,040 Speaker 14: Now, why won't they do it? A lot of it 898 00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,879 Speaker 14: is because Australia and you think, youre wow, why is there? 899 00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:56,080 Speaker 14: Who are the Muslims in Australia? Where are they coming from? Well, 900 00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:59,080 Speaker 14: Australia was one of the countries that welcomed in a 901 00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,359 Speaker 14: lot of my memory, like a lot of the Europeans did. 902 00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,400 Speaker 14: And so they now have an issue. They never had 903 00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,640 Speaker 14: a problem like this before. Now they have an issue. 904 00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:11,000 Speaker 14: The European countries they have an issue, and yet they're 905 00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:15,400 Speaker 14: leaders in part because the leaders worry about the votes. 906 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:19,560 Speaker 14: There's now such a significant number of Muslim immigrants who 907 00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:23,640 Speaker 14: really do believe in all the things you know that 908 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:27,200 Speaker 14: we're so worried about in the United States, and yet 909 00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:31,160 Speaker 14: they're a voting block, and so in narrow elections, political 910 00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,960 Speaker 14: leaders aren't going to have the personal courage to come 911 00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,120 Speaker 14: out and call out anti Semitism. They're not going to 912 00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,640 Speaker 14: have the courage to call out from us. And I 913 00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:41,719 Speaker 14: think that's what we're seeing. And in the absence of 914 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:43,880 Speaker 14: the courage to call it out, it's happening. 915 00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:45,600 Speaker 5: No, it is. 916 00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,239 Speaker 3: And you know what, Katy is happening here. I mean, 917 00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,080 Speaker 3: all you have to do is look at the little 918 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,640 Speaker 3: Somalia block that has done all of the you know, 919 00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:58,279 Speaker 3: defrauding of the government in Minnesota to understand that it's 920 00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:02,160 Speaker 3: a group of people large enough that it scares politicians 921 00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,800 Speaker 3: into inaction. And I'm not saying that Keith Ellison or 922 00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,600 Speaker 3: Governor Waltz or even elon Omar would have been like, 923 00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,640 Speaker 3: you know, a Christmas choir angel to begin with, But 924 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:16,719 Speaker 3: when you have, you know such and it's not even 925 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:19,080 Speaker 3: it's not even a group of people that wish to assimilate. 926 00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,320 Speaker 3: They are here, they don't want to learn our language, 927 00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,319 Speaker 3: they don't want to adopt a pluralistic or an ecumenical 928 00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:29,359 Speaker 3: approach towards tolerance with other people's faith. There is there 929 00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:34,520 Speaker 3: is a horrific day coming I think from the from 930 00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:36,520 Speaker 3: the seeds of what have been planted there. And I 931 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:40,600 Speaker 3: and I regret that we are in a similar situation the. 932 00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:44,560 Speaker 14: European ajority there, they're already having these massive problems of 933 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:48,960 Speaker 14: societ norms are being ended. We have those kind of 934 00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,759 Speaker 14: problems in these districts, as you pointed out, in the 935 00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:56,120 Speaker 14: Midwest and Minnesota and other places. By and large, our 936 00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,880 Speaker 14: illegal immigration has come from people who buy into the 937 00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,720 Speaker 14: same system that were we buy into no jiujeo, Christian 938 00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,000 Speaker 14: pro family, et cetera. And now maybe you're illegally and 939 00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,920 Speaker 14: I'm not talking about the ones committing crimes, but that 940 00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,279 Speaker 14: is a group that's much easier to assimilate than what 941 00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,880 Speaker 14: Europe has. May never assimilate. 942 00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,320 Speaker 3: It's gonna be it's gonna be problematic. And you know, 943 00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:23,560 Speaker 3: I really we're just stays away till the new year, 944 00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,600 Speaker 3: and we have a mayor coming into New York City 945 00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,440 Speaker 3: that you know, kind of feels the same way as 946 00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,760 Speaker 3: those groups of people do. And it's it is. It 947 00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,640 Speaker 3: is a frightening reality to understand that we have done 948 00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:37,760 Speaker 3: this to ourselves. We left the door open, Mom said 949 00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:39,840 Speaker 3: closed the door at night, we didn't close the door, 950 00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:44,000 Speaker 3: and what we have allowed in and in Biden's term, Yeah, 951 00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,720 Speaker 3: there were a lot of you know, Latin Central and 952 00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:50,600 Speaker 3: South Americans that you know, may have some vague, you know, 953 00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:54,120 Speaker 3: resemblance to you know, God and you know what we believe. 954 00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,160 Speaker 3: But there were a lot of people that got across 955 00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,640 Speaker 3: that border that we had no clue where they came from. 956 00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:02,040 Speaker 3: And it was a different time of illegal immigration. All right, 957 00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:07,320 Speaker 3: Katie always always appreciate your insights, and thanks for hanging 958 00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,080 Speaker 3: out with his follower on x at Real Katie McFarlane, 959 00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:11,439 Speaker 3: and we'll talk to you again next week. 960 00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:12,440 Speaker 14: Thank you. 961 00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:16,080 Speaker 3: Kevin, got be well, Kevin McCullough, coming right back. We've 962 00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,760 Speaker 3: got more to get to, including Emily Sturge a bit 963 00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:22,480 Speaker 3: later on some really cooky Christmas stuff for college kids. 964 00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,080 Speaker 3: You're not gonna believe this. You're gonna have to hear 965 00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:35,520 Speaker 3: it for yourself. Kevin McCullough. It's that Kevin show prizas time. 966 00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:39,960 Speaker 16: Change. 967 00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:59,920 Speaker 17: Here he is from New York, Kelly, Kevin McCullough. 968 00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:08,320 Speaker 18: Then I serve on Bible by the window Christmas see 969 00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:13,160 Speaker 18: page is warm by the words alive, And they started 970 00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:18,160 Speaker 18: speaking peace feard and said good news for all, and 971 00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:23,120 Speaker 18: I felt Heaven see the joy I've been chasing. 972 00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:26,120 Speaker 3: Found me and the story of a king. 973 00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:33,520 Speaker 19: Now I'm running, strumming, coming with the age nor singing glory, 974 00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:39,320 Speaker 19: hallelujah for the news, on for it, stop's tale, shine 975 00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:44,400 Speaker 19: the metal tale, shine for my soul's employ And the 976 00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:53,240 Speaker 19: best news ever given, the forever greatest choice, the best news. 977 00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:56,600 Speaker 3: Ever given, the best news ever given, as we know 978 00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:59,480 Speaker 3: it to be the Christmas story where Jesus came to 979 00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:03,400 Speaker 3: earth and lived his life and did so so that 980 01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,920 Speaker 3: we could know eternity with God in the way that 981 01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:11,120 Speaker 3: God the Father had created us and had wanted, had 982 01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,480 Speaker 3: longed for a relationship with us. That is the season's 983 01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,600 Speaker 3: greatest joy. That's the message of Christmas, and that is 984 01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,960 Speaker 3: the voice of Charlie Gibson, who's part of the Tea Collective. 985 01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,560 Speaker 3: Truth Elevated Artistry, I think is what that stands for, 986 01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:27,400 Speaker 3: the Tea Collective, and that is part of the Christmas CD. 987 01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:30,680 Speaker 3: It's not a CD, it's a recording that we're going 988 01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:34,240 Speaker 3: to give to every person that makes a donation of 989 01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:38,760 Speaker 3: any size to the effort to liberate slaves this Christmas. 990 01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,560 Speaker 3: Why not give you some Christmas cheer as a thank 991 01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:45,800 Speaker 3: you for making a contribution to help liberate slaves in 992 01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,360 Speaker 3: Sudan this Christmas season. Now, the best gifts were given 993 01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:51,200 Speaker 3: them is their freedom. The best gift that we're giving 994 01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:54,160 Speaker 3: them is a life that they have long since believed 995 01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,760 Speaker 3: that they would never see again. Most of these girls 996 01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,959 Speaker 3: taken when they were in their teens or even younger 997 01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,440 Speaker 3: and have lived fifteen twenty twenty five years in slavery. 998 01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:06,040 Speaker 3: But friends, for a one time gift of two hundred 999 01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:09,720 Speaker 3: and fifty dollars, you can liberate a human being eight 1000 01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,000 Speaker 3: eight eight three four two ten ten eight eight eight 1001 01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:14,920 Speaker 3: three four two ten ten. The liberation happens, and then 1002 01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:16,800 Speaker 3: they need a bag of hope to get their whole 1003 01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:18,920 Speaker 3: life started over again with that's the majority of what 1004 01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,919 Speaker 3: your two hundred and fifty dollars provides. Food for a year, 1005 01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:28,160 Speaker 3: tarps and blankets, seeds to plant for future food, utensils 1006 01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:31,240 Speaker 3: to clean and cook and fish and garden with all 1007 01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:32,800 Speaker 3: of the things that they need to kind of start 1008 01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:35,360 Speaker 3: their life over again when they return home to South 1009 01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,280 Speaker 3: Sudan from their slave masters in the north. And the 1010 01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,680 Speaker 3: other thing they get is a little she goat that 1011 01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,880 Speaker 3: they can make milk and cheese and other kid goats with, 1012 01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:46,360 Speaker 3: and when they do, it gives them a source of income, 1013 01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,440 Speaker 3: a little micro enterprise that helps start their life all 1014 01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,720 Speaker 3: over again. Friends, It's the most incredible thing I've ever seen. 1015 01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:54,760 Speaker 3: And again, if you make a gift of any size 1016 01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,080 Speaker 3: today eight eight eight three four two ten ten, you're 1017 01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:01,360 Speaker 3: going to get the Tea Collective's Christmas album called Such 1018 01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:05,360 Speaker 3: Tiny Shoulders. It's all about the tiny shoulders of Jesus 1019 01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,640 Speaker 3: taking on the big weight of the world on top 1020 01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:10,480 Speaker 3: of that, and we would love to send that to you. 1021 01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:12,680 Speaker 3: It's just our way of saying thank you for being involved. 1022 01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,520 Speaker 3: Two hundred and fifty dollars liberates one slave. There are 1023 01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:20,560 Speaker 3: two hundred and twenty five names left on the list 1024 01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:22,880 Speaker 3: that we are trying to eliminate before the end of 1025 01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:26,000 Speaker 3: this year. Give them their freedom this Christmas. Eight eight 1026 01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:28,439 Speaker 3: eight three four two ten ten eight eight eight three 1027 01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:31,120 Speaker 3: four to two ten ten, and take a listen to 1028 01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:32,680 Speaker 3: how much of a difference it makes. 1029 01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,520 Speaker 16: I was a child when I was abducted by the Arabs. 1030 01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,880 Speaker 16: My parents used to own livestock and my mother would 1031 01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:45,480 Speaker 16: do all the cooking for us. I don't remember the 1032 01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:48,120 Speaker 16: year that I was captured. There had never been any 1033 01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:51,120 Speaker 16: problems in our village. Then one day, all of a sudden, 1034 01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:55,640 Speaker 16: we heard that there were Arabs attacking dink of villages 1035 01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:58,960 Speaker 16: throughout the South. We were so worried we couldnt even 1036 01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,320 Speaker 16: sleep at night. It was a big concern to my 1037 01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:05,680 Speaker 16: mother and my father. We were told that these Arabs 1038 01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,760 Speaker 16: were heavily armed and would kill all the animals and 1039 01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:13,480 Speaker 16: people when they would attack. We were very scared. Then 1040 01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:14,680 Speaker 16: one morning they. 1041 01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:15,560 Speaker 6: Attacked our village. 1042 01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:19,760 Speaker 16: We scattered in different directions and I ran, but I 1043 01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:24,280 Speaker 16: was captured. My entire village was burned down, and I've 1044 01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,800 Speaker 16: never seen a member of my family since. 1045 01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:28,880 Speaker 10: Then. 1046 01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:35,080 Speaker 16: I was taken north into slavery. My eyes saw horrific 1047 01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:38,480 Speaker 16: things on that trip to the north. Women were raped 1048 01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:42,080 Speaker 16: right in front of us, men were beaten, and four 1049 01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:45,360 Speaker 16: men were killed because they tried to fight back. They 1050 01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:49,680 Speaker 16: were shot dead before our eyes. Once at the slave 1051 01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:54,200 Speaker 16: master's house, I was pretty much starved and worked brutal 1052 01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:58,360 Speaker 16: hours every single day, doing difficult and very very hard work. 1053 01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:06,560 Speaker 16: There was no lief, and then they raped me. My 1054 01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:08,760 Speaker 16: slave master did not think of me as a human. 1055 01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:11,120 Speaker 16: He will not even let me go to the hospital 1056 01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:14,680 Speaker 16: when I fell sick, and one day I heard that 1057 01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:19,560 Speaker 16: there was a slave retriever from CSI close by. How 1058 01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:23,640 Speaker 16: I wanted to be free. That retriever secured my freedom, 1059 01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,720 Speaker 16: and thank god I was able to return to South 1060 01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:30,920 Speaker 16: Sudand thank you to each of you who helped the 1061 01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:35,080 Speaker 16: slaves be free. But please don't stop until we get 1062 01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:35,440 Speaker 16: them all. 1063 01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:38,360 Speaker 1: It's a reasonable request. 1064 01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:41,640 Speaker 3: The phone number is triple eight three four two ten 1065 01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:45,240 Speaker 3: ten eight eight eight three four two ten ten, and 1066 01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:47,520 Speaker 3: your gift right now of only two hundred and fifty 1067 01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:52,320 Speaker 3: dollars will liberate another girl like a hoak, the one 1068 01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:55,280 Speaker 3: you just heard the story from. The names may sound 1069 01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:59,160 Speaker 3: different to our Western ears, but their hearts, their desires, 1070 01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:02,920 Speaker 3: their lives are no different than your own daughters. Friends, 1071 01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,440 Speaker 3: if you believe that slavery is evil, and if you 1072 01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:07,720 Speaker 3: believe that we should be here to make a difference, 1073 01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:10,400 Speaker 3: then please do pick up the phone eight eight eight 1074 01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:13,080 Speaker 3: three four two ten ten eight eight eight three four 1075 01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:16,120 Speaker 3: two ten ten. You can also give online by just 1076 01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:20,280 Speaker 3: going to bring her home dot org. Let's bring her 1077 01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:25,080 Speaker 3: home dot org or eight eight eight three four two 1078 01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:28,040 Speaker 3: ten ten. That's triple eight three four two. 1079 01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:29,320 Speaker 9: Ten ten. 1080 01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:54,000 Speaker 18: Here he is. 1081 01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:54,880 Speaker 1: Come. 1082 01:05:54,920 --> 01:06:01,360 Speaker 3: Who you are that Kevin, Kevin mckella, Welcome back to 1083 01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:04,680 Speaker 3: Times Square. It's Calvin McCullough, that Kevin Show, that kevinshow 1084 01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:06,760 Speaker 3: dot Com. Thank you for taking us with you in 1085 01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:09,520 Speaker 3: some five hundred new cities this last month. Thank you 1086 01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:13,760 Speaker 3: to Salem Network, Phil boy Stave Central, everybody up the 1087 01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:17,040 Speaker 3: chain that made that happen. Thrilled to do so. Glad 1088 01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:20,160 Speaker 3: to welcome back someone who we've always enjoyed having with us. 1089 01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:23,600 Speaker 3: She is a reporter for Campus Reform and she follows 1090 01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:26,600 Speaker 3: these stories that are really rather significant, even though they 1091 01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:31,080 Speaker 3: don't make the mainstream very much in terms of the content. 1092 01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:34,400 Speaker 3: Emily sturges her name and as I said, Campus Reform 1093 01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:36,120 Speaker 3: reporter Emily, it's good to see you again. 1094 01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:36,840 Speaker 1: Merry Christmas. 1095 01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:39,200 Speaker 3: If we don't see you again before then you just 1096 01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:43,080 Speaker 3: highlighted a story about some students that are having such 1097 01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:46,280 Speaker 3: a tough time this time of year, coping with exams 1098 01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:50,000 Speaker 3: and trying to somehow survive, and colleges are really doing, 1099 01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,520 Speaker 3: you know, like elite level therapy for them. 1100 01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:53,160 Speaker 1: What are they doing? 1101 01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:55,400 Speaker 20: It's great to be with you, Kevin. 1102 01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:58,960 Speaker 15: Look, it's exam season on university campuses across the country 1103 01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:03,240 Speaker 15: and college is are coddling students with childish activities and 1104 01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:07,320 Speaker 15: playful distractions instead of setting them up for success on 1105 01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:09,880 Speaker 15: their exams. And I've got some examples to point to. 1106 01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:14,200 Speaker 15: And Anna, for example, is doing giveaways of care bears, 1107 01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:18,280 Speaker 15: hosting a PJ party for students. There's a community college 1108 01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:22,600 Speaker 15: in Washington that's providing students with Plato. And at the 1109 01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:26,520 Speaker 15: University of Chicago, Illinois, we have engineering students. They are 1110 01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,400 Speaker 15: in making friendship bracelets and playing with slime. 1111 01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:32,000 Speaker 20: I don't know about you, but I don't. 1112 01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:34,720 Speaker 15: Think this sounds like rigorous academic institutions. That sounds a 1113 01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:36,920 Speaker 15: lot more like a kindergarten birthday party to me. 1114 01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:39,720 Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's interesting. We had Erica Donald's on 1115 01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:45,520 Speaker 3: the show earlier and she was talking about how there's 1116 01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:48,400 Speaker 3: this brand new study out of San Diego. Is it 1117 01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:51,439 Speaker 3: County or San Diego State? I think San Diego State 1118 01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:56,360 Speaker 3: University that just did a tracking study of college students 1119 01:07:56,480 --> 01:08:00,120 Speaker 3: and the level of math that they're able to to 1120 01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:03,680 Speaker 3: do in the study that they just completed and published, 1121 01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:08,840 Speaker 3: and less than nineteen percent of students that are at 1122 01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:12,360 Speaker 3: the college level are capable of doing eighth grade level math, 1123 01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:16,799 Speaker 3: which is pre algebra. Only eighty four percent of students 1124 01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:20,680 Speaker 3: were able to complete first grade level math, which is 1125 01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:24,200 Speaker 3: addition subtraction, and third grade was something in the seventies 1126 01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:26,400 Speaker 3: mid seventies, seventy three seventy five percent were able to 1127 01:08:26,439 --> 01:08:28,040 Speaker 3: do it. But even if you have one out of 1128 01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:31,920 Speaker 3: four that can't add subtract emily, that's really really bad. 1129 01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:35,519 Speaker 3: What is the purpose of college? And that happens to 1130 01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:38,080 Speaker 3: be the same school that's got the male volleyball player 1131 01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:40,920 Speaker 3: pretending to be a woman on the female team. What's 1132 01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:44,599 Speaker 3: the purpose of college if all you're doing is taking 1133 01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:48,040 Speaker 3: people that don't know much to begin with, kind of 1134 01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:50,160 Speaker 3: creating a safe space for them to play with their 1135 01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:53,840 Speaker 3: care bears and Plato And then to what end that's 1136 01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:56,200 Speaker 3: an expensive babysitting session. 1137 01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:58,519 Speaker 20: Exactly. There are so many issues in this story. 1138 01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:02,280 Speaker 15: First off, universities are absolutely erasing standards in both the 1139 01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:06,640 Speaker 15: classroom and admissions itself, and that's exactly why we are 1140 01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:11,360 Speaker 15: seeing declining academic ability in our nation's classrooms. Look, America 1141 01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:14,000 Speaker 15: should have the greatest education system in the world, and 1142 01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:17,280 Speaker 15: we are at a point where we're seeing declining academic ability, 1143 01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:19,519 Speaker 15: both at the college level and also the K through 1144 01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:23,280 Speaker 15: twelve level. Our nation's report card revealed that, I mean, 1145 01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:26,080 Speaker 15: there's elementary students that are just not proficient in math 1146 01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:28,280 Speaker 15: and reading, and then these students get to college. They 1147 01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:31,639 Speaker 15: can't write an essay without artificial intelligence. They can't meet 1148 01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:33,519 Speaker 15: basic expectations. 1149 01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:33,720 Speaker 20: In the classroom. 1150 01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:38,040 Speaker 15: This goes back to universities need to reform themselves, need 1151 01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:41,799 Speaker 15: to reform classrooms, need to hire the best and the brightest, 1152 01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:45,559 Speaker 15: And going back to these childish activities that universities are. 1153 01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:47,439 Speaker 20: Providing for students this exam season. 1154 01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:50,559 Speaker 15: Look, universities say that they're providing these activities to help 1155 01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:53,759 Speaker 15: students de stress and cope with the stress of exams. 1156 01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:55,160 Speaker 20: But the real stress you. 1157 01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:57,840 Speaker 15: And I both know it's going to come when these 1158 01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:01,400 Speaker 15: students are applying to jobs after graduation and they are 1159 01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:02,839 Speaker 15: getting rejection emails. 1160 01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:05,360 Speaker 20: And I'm not just saying that. That's a very harsh. 1161 01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:08,360 Speaker 15: Reality that many students are facing right now. At the 1162 01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:11,840 Speaker 15: Leadership and Students Campus Reform, we're reporting that it's only 1163 01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:15,719 Speaker 15: twelve percent of college graduates that are securing a job 1164 01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:19,840 Speaker 15: before graduation. And that's because these college grads they're not 1165 01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:23,840 Speaker 15: leaving with skills. They are leaving with degrees and a 1166 01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:27,880 Speaker 15: lot of debt. Degrees that provided playtime with care bears, 1167 01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:30,519 Speaker 15: but not real world skills that they can take to 1168 01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:32,080 Speaker 15: the workforce or society. 1169 01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:35,160 Speaker 3: It's one of the reasons why I increasingly question the 1170 01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:38,840 Speaker 3: value of a university education. And at the end of 1171 01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:41,040 Speaker 3: the day, it's almost like if you had more kids 1172 01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:44,120 Speaker 3: going into the trades, if you had more kids exploring 1173 01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:48,400 Speaker 3: other options. There's lots of good paying jobs for people 1174 01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:51,320 Speaker 3: that can actually do things, but underwater basket weaving and 1175 01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:55,920 Speaker 3: lesbian studies and playtime with care bears. This isn't This 1176 01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:58,639 Speaker 3: isn't the kind of stuff that the job market is demanding. 1177 01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:00,880 Speaker 3: And I think we were so well for so long, 1178 01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:02,960 Speaker 3: and it was so kind of scary for even kids 1179 01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:05,080 Speaker 3: to speak up on campus and say, but wait a minute, 1180 01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:07,479 Speaker 3: why does any of this matter? But I'm hopeful that 1181 01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:10,280 Speaker 3: we're turning a corner. Emily, is that what we're seeing 1182 01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:11,960 Speaker 3: our kids fighting back? 1183 01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:14,360 Speaker 15: Yes, And I will say it actually is the popular 1184 01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:16,519 Speaker 15: view the majority of Americans at this point in time. 1185 01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:19,360 Speaker 15: We are reporting at Campus Reform, the majority of Americans 1186 01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:22,439 Speaker 15: actually say that the cost of college is just no 1187 01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:25,280 Speaker 15: longer worth it. And when we're talking about all of 1188 01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:28,200 Speaker 15: these silly things happening on university campuses, I want to 1189 01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:30,360 Speaker 15: point out it's not an entire. 1190 01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:32,040 Speaker 20: Generation that is buying into this. 1191 01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:35,360 Speaker 15: Generation Z is not a generation of snowflakes. And we 1192 01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:38,160 Speaker 15: know that because this is also the generation that is 1193 01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:40,360 Speaker 15: leading the military recruitment boom. 1194 01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:42,000 Speaker 20: Look, there are eighteen. 1195 01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:44,720 Speaker 15: Year olds lining up to join the military. All the 1196 01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:47,880 Speaker 15: military branches have met their recruiting goals this year because 1197 01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:51,320 Speaker 15: of Generation Z. This is also the generation that fue 1198 01:11:51,360 --> 01:11:53,800 Speaker 15: old President Trump's return back to the White House. This 1199 01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:56,360 Speaker 15: generation has swung to the right. This is not a 1200 01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:59,280 Speaker 15: problem with young people. This is a problem with universities. 1201 01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:03,960 Speaker 15: Cities are infantilizing students and erasing standards in the classroom. 1202 01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:07,920 Speaker 15: That's why we see declining academic ability. Like we spoke about, 1203 01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:11,519 Speaker 15: this goes back to reforming the institutions themselves so that 1204 01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:14,800 Speaker 15: they can help set Generation Z up for success. 1205 01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:15,320 Speaker 20: In the workforce. 1206 01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:18,200 Speaker 3: You recently wrote an obed about some advice you were 1207 01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:20,920 Speaker 3: giving Gen Z. Just give us a little preview of 1208 01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:21,439 Speaker 3: what that was. 1209 01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:25,080 Speaker 15: Absolutely so, tuition is one of the biggest expenses that 1210 01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:28,240 Speaker 15: Generation Z is facing. We're talking a lot about affordability 1211 01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:30,360 Speaker 15: in the American dream right now in the news cycle, 1212 01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:33,719 Speaker 15: and gen z needs to remember when they are choosing 1213 01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,960 Speaker 15: their college that they should choose a college based off 1214 01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:40,040 Speaker 15: two things. I say, academics and affordability. They should set 1215 01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:44,559 Speaker 15: themselves up for success and not a six figure tuition bill. 1216 01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:48,160 Speaker 15: The college that a student decides on when they're eighteen 1217 01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:51,320 Speaker 15: years old is going to determine how much debt they 1218 01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:53,240 Speaker 15: have for the rest of their life and also the 1219 01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:56,160 Speaker 15: skills that they take to the rest of their life. 1220 01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:58,320 Speaker 15: And so I wrote an op ed with some advice 1221 01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:02,440 Speaker 15: for students about picking college based on academics and affordability 1222 01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:06,200 Speaker 15: and then also picking a major that leads to real 1223 01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:09,160 Speaker 15: world skills that they can take to the workforce and get. 1224 01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:09,800 Speaker 14: Hired one day. 1225 01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:12,840 Speaker 3: Well, it's good advice, and I want people to go 1226 01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:14,519 Speaker 3: and check it. Where can they read it if they 1227 01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:15,559 Speaker 3: want to go on their own. 1228 01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:19,680 Speaker 15: Absolutely so it is published at the Washington Times website, 1229 01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:23,080 Speaker 15: and I'm reporting new stories every single day at campus. 1230 01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:23,760 Speaker 14: Reform dot org. 1231 01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:27,120 Speaker 3: Don't miss Emily's work there. It's every day. It's the 1232 01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:29,560 Speaker 3: best that's being done on the topic. Emily, good to 1233 01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:30,599 Speaker 3: have you back, Thanks for being here. 1234 01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:32,720 Speaker 20: Thank you so much, my friend, and Merry Christmas to you. 1235 01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:35,639 Speaker 3: Back at you, I'd like the snowflakes on the sweater. 1236 01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:39,080 Speaker 3: Snowflakes belong on sweaters, not in schools. Kevin McCalla coming 1237 01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:40,040 Speaker 3: back from Times Square. 1238 01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:59,880 Speaker 17: I'll stay with us, Gavin mccallaugh, that Kevin show. 1239 01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:02,320 Speaker 3: Oh, thank you for being right there where you are. 1240 01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:04,840 Speaker 3: Thank you for helping Focus on the Family at this 1241 01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:08,479 Speaker 3: time of year. They are doing all they can to 1242 01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:12,160 Speaker 3: help family stay together. And your gift at Focus on 1243 01:14:12,200 --> 01:14:16,000 Speaker 3: the Family dot Com forward slash Christmas today would go 1244 01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:18,439 Speaker 3: twice as far to helping a family tomorrow find the 1245 01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:21,960 Speaker 3: resources and the counseling that they need, simply because that's 1246 01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:24,880 Speaker 3: what they offer. And there's a match going on with 1247 01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:26,479 Speaker 3: Focus on the Family through the end of the year. 1248 01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:30,200 Speaker 3: So focus on the Family dot Com forward slash Christmas 1249 01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:33,879 Speaker 3: and help them in twenty twenty six reach more families 1250 01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:36,000 Speaker 3: as we wrap up. I keep coming back to something 1251 01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:40,000 Speaker 3: simple today and profound. Dave Stone reminded us of it 1252 01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:42,559 Speaker 3: when he was with us in John chapter eleven. At 1253 01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:45,920 Speaker 3: the beginning of the show, Jesus meets Martha and he 1254 01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:51,920 Speaker 3: gives her truth. Jesus meets Mary and he gave her tears, 1255 01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:57,639 Speaker 3: same lord, same moment, completely different needs, and he didn't 1256 01:14:57,640 --> 01:15:01,439 Speaker 3: confuse them. That matter because it tells us something about 1257 01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:06,240 Speaker 3: leadership and justice and discernment. Truth without compassion can wound, 1258 01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:11,880 Speaker 3: Compassion without truth can actually mislead. Christ offered exactly what 1259 01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:14,879 Speaker 3: was required, not what was convenient, not what was expected, 1260 01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:18,200 Speaker 3: but what was right, and that theme echoes across kind 1261 01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:21,080 Speaker 3: of everything else we dealt with today. Hans von Spakowsky 1262 01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:24,360 Speaker 3: walked us through the constitution, remind us that words matter, 1263 01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:27,120 Speaker 3: that laws mean what they say and not what we wish. 1264 01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:31,360 Speaker 3: They said. Birthright citizenship isn't an emotional slogan. It's a 1265 01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:34,400 Speaker 3: constitutional question. The court is going to take it up. 1266 01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:37,640 Speaker 3: When we blur the legal meaning to satisfy a political appetite, 1267 01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:41,960 Speaker 3: we're not becoming more humane, we're becoming less honest. Katie 1268 01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:44,280 Speaker 3: MacFarlane then pulled the curtain back on a world that's 1269 01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:47,880 Speaker 3: far less stable than the headlines led on ghost ships 1270 01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:52,599 Speaker 3: skirting embargoes, oil moving in the shadows, anti Semitism rising, 1271 01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:57,680 Speaker 3: not quietly but boldly. These are not abstractions, the reminders 1272 01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:01,200 Speaker 3: that evil doesn't always announce itself. Sometimes it slips through 1273 01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:05,320 Speaker 3: loopholes through silence or through wilful blindness. And then we 1274 01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:07,559 Speaker 3: just heard from Emily Sturge, who showed us what's happening 1275 01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:11,879 Speaker 3: on campuses. Institutions meant to shape minds now insulating students 1276 01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:16,040 Speaker 3: from discomfort or challenge or reality itself care bear style, 1277 01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:20,840 Speaker 3: preparing them not for finals but for fragility. And a 1278 01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:24,559 Speaker 3: generation taught that discomfort is harm will never be ready 1279 01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:27,760 Speaker 3: to defend truth when it actually costs something. Now, put 1280 01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:30,800 Speaker 3: all of this together and a pattern emerges. We are 1281 01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:33,759 Speaker 3: living in a moment that desperately needs what Christ modeled 1282 01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:39,400 Speaker 3: in Bethany, clarity paired with compassion, truth anchored in love, courage, 1283 01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:43,439 Speaker 3: guided by wisdom. Not every problem needs the same answer, 1284 01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:46,360 Speaker 3: not every soul needs the same approach, but every moment 1285 01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:52,960 Speaker 3: demands integrity because when processes collapse, justice collapses. When truth 1286 01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:55,599 Speaker 3: is optional, power fills the vacuum, And when we forget 1287 01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:58,000 Speaker 3: how to weep and how to stand firm, we lose 1288 01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:02,560 Speaker 3: our way. So tonight be my hope. Let's remember this 1289 01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:09,080 Speaker 3: Leadership isn't about volume, faith isn't about performance, and justice 1290 01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:12,800 Speaker 3: isn't just about winning. It's about showing up with the 1291 01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:16,920 Speaker 3: right response at the right time, grounded in truth, shaped 1292 01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:21,599 Speaker 3: by compassion, and unafraid of what the cost is. That's 1293 01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:25,760 Speaker 3: where and how Christ met Martha. That's how he met Mary, 1294 01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:29,240 Speaker 3: and that's the standard that we should expect of ourselves 1295 01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:33,160 Speaker 3: and of those entrusted with power. And that's why we 1296 01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:36,439 Speaker 3: have this discussion on a daily basis to help us 1297 01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:39,400 Speaker 3: understand what that accountability looks like and how we can 1298 01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:41,960 Speaker 3: be better at it. None of us are perfect, We're 1299 01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:46,640 Speaker 3: all in process. But facts do matter, Context matters, and 1300 01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:50,400 Speaker 3: compassion leads the way. Kevin mccallaugh, so glad to have 1301 01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:52,519 Speaker 3: you with us. If you've got any thoughts, that Kevinshow 1302 01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:55,000 Speaker 3: at gmail dot com, that Kevin Show at gmail dot 1303 01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:58,040 Speaker 3: com will reach me and you can get all the 1304 01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:00,479 Speaker 3: social and all the podcasts and every thing at that 1305 01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:03,240 Speaker 3: kevinshow dot com. And if you do, go to the 1306 01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:06,560 Speaker 3: podcast page at Salem Podcastnetwork dot com. I'd love for 1307 01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:09,960 Speaker 3: you to like, follow, subscribe and hang out with us 1308 01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:12,240 Speaker 3: as much as you can. Kevin McCalla, We'll see you 1309 01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:12,639 Speaker 3: next time.