1 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to Timeless Wisdom with Dennis Prager. Here thousands of 2 00:00:24,240 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: hours of Dennis's lectures courses in classic radio programs. Had 3 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: to purchase Dennis Prager's Rational Bibles. Go to Dennisprager dot com. 4 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 2: Argument number three against pornography. Argument three is that it's addictive. 5 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: It is. So is alcohol, so is television, so are cigarettes. 6 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: To the addict, alcohol is addictive. Is correct, but it's 7 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: not the end of the sentence. It's addictive to alcoholics. 8 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: If you are an alcoholic, you should never have a drink. 9 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 2: If you are a porno addict, you should never look 10 00:01:09,759 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 2: at a porno picture. Most people can drink and not 11 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 2: be addicted. Then most people can look Most men could 12 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 2: look at porn and not be addicted. That's the way 13 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: it goes. The fact that some are addicts does not 14 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: mean that it is always addictive, anymore than it's true 15 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 2: for alcohol or any of the other things. People are 16 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 2: addicted to sugar, people are addicted to a whole host 17 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 2: of things. To the person who is an addict, I 18 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 2: strongly suggest go cold turkey. Don't even get and I'm 19 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 2: serious Victoria's secret catalog. In fact, I will tell you 20 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: something a dear friend of mine who is an Orthodox rabbi, 21 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 2: not because of any addiction, but because of his religiosity, 22 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: and he believes, as many deeply religious people do, that 23 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: lusting after anyone but a wife is wrong, if not sinful, 24 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: but wrong and undesirable. Has his wife tear out the 25 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 2: bride before he reads the paper. I do not laugh 26 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 2: at that. I understand it. He's being very honest with himself. 27 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 2: But I want you to understand that for the addict, 28 00:02:15,920 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 2: it's not just penthouse and uh, what do I have 29 00:02:20,959 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 2: a what's Flint's thing? I have everything? Hustler. I can't believe that, Hustler. 30 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: It's not just that it is uh, it's it's it's 31 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 2: it's broad ads. It triggers off a need to keep 32 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: looking more and looking more, looking more, looking more. So. Uh. 33 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 2: The problem is hardly only uh in uh in pornography. 34 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 2: But my heart goes out to the attic. I am 35 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: a believer in moderate advice. I believe moderation. I don't 36 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 2: I don't seek to produce saints. After the Holocaust and 37 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 2: after Gulag, and after Cambodia and after Rwanda, I don't 38 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 2: have any desire to create saints. That's others jobs. I 39 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: want to produce, non murderers, non torturers, non rapists, just 40 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 2: basically decent people who struggle with life and sometimes gamble 41 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 2: and sometimes look porn and sometimes drink. That's I'll be 42 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 2: very happy to live in such a world and sew 43 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 2: it all of you where we didn't have the horrors 44 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: that I just described. Number Objection number four is that 45 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 2: it is a function of misogyny. That is, it is 46 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 2: inherently misogynistic, means hating of women. This is another one 47 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 2: of these declarations that has no basis. It's just a 48 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 2: declaration and people like to say it, Oh, it's misogynist. 49 00:03:55,680 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 2: Why is a misogynist? Is is gay porn misanthropic? Right? 50 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: If that's misogyny, then that's misanthropy. Then gays who look 51 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 2: at gay men for sexual stimulation are misanthrops. But the 52 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 2: idea is preposterous. What does it have to do with misogyny. 53 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 2: One loves women less because one likes to see women nude, 54 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 2: that's what it means. But that's absurd. It's just on 55 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 2: the face of it, it's just absurd. It's just that 56 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: we're so scared of it. And I understand why people 57 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 2: are scared of it. It's why there's so many sessions 58 00:04:33,919 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 2: on this. I understand that, but it doesn't make sense. 59 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 2: It's just not true. Number five, and this is it's related. 60 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 2: It leads men to regard women as less than fully human. 61 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 2: It sounds good, it's not true. Again. The fact that 62 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: one can live with two facts, human and sex object. 63 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 2: They are both livable with. Now a woman who only 64 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 2: portrays herself as a sex object will be regarded primarily 65 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 2: as such by a man. That is correct. I taught 66 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 2: this to young women at the college Institute I used 67 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 2: to direct the summer college sessions of four weeks. Students 68 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 2: would come were eighteen to twenty three years old, and 69 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: I'll never forget I met with every one of them. 70 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 2: They were about eighty a session. I met with every 71 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 2: one of them for an hour, privately aside from any 72 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 2: other clothes, but privately for an hour. Well, there was 73 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 2: one young woman at the place who was very well endowed, 74 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 2: an attractive young woman and very well endowed, and she 75 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 2: knew it, and she was one of the youngest, so 76 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 2: she was really just feeling her own sexually. And she 77 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 2: wore the skimpiest, tightest and most revealing stuff she could find. 78 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 2: So during our session together, I asked her how I 79 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 2: am enjoying the summer, and so I says okay, I said, good, good. 80 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 2: Any issues that you want to raise with me? Well, 81 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: you know some of the guys they treat me like 82 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 2: a sex object. So I said, gee, can you can 83 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 2: possibly think why they might be doing and said no. 84 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 2: I said, well, let me tell you. Because of what 85 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 2: you're wearing, you're portraying yourself as a sex object, and 86 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 2: that's how they're responding. Men see cleavage when you show cleavage, 87 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,799 Speaker 2: and there are times to do it, and every woman 88 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 2: knows there are times to do it, absolutely, but at 89 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 2: least a woman should be honest. If I portray cleavage, 90 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 2: you'll see cleavage. He will not see my thoughts on 91 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 2: medieval literature. Hey, just that will not be the first 92 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 2: question that comes to her. I wonder what she feels 93 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 2: about the Sonnets as compared to the plays that Shakespeare wrote. 94 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 2: He will think, oh, what a what a what a pair? 95 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 2: That's what we'll think. So that's it. So it's up 96 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 2: to you. It's the woman has that power to shape 97 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 2: the way the man sees her. If she's naked, he 98 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 2: sees her as a sex object. That's correct. So what 99 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 2: what does that mean? What is the terror in that? 100 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 2: There are times when it's okay, times when it's not okay, 101 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 2: and of visue, but it hardly regards leads one to 102 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 2: regard women as as as a statement of humanity is 103 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 2: less human. It's not true. Not in a healthy, normal male. 104 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 2: Are their unhealthy males? Oh god, there are, They're even 105 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 2: unhealthy females. But that's another course that we'll talk about. 106 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 2: Of course there are, but that's a separate subject. Does 107 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,119 Speaker 2: gay porn lead to a man viewing men as less 108 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 2: than human? I keep going back to homosexual men because 109 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 2: it's a mirror image to homosexual men who look at 110 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 2: naked men regard men is less than human? Of course not, 111 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 2: It would never occur to us to think that. But 112 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 2: all of a sudden we make these declarations about how 113 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 2: men see women, because they will see them as sex objects. Now, 114 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 2: it's true. If the only link a man has to 115 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 2: women is through naked pictures, of course he's not going 116 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 2: to see them as anything but sex objects. That's right. 117 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 2: That's why I think I benefited from a co ed school. 118 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 2: I did benefit. I didn't have sisters, and so I 119 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 2: didn't grow up with girls to, you know, to relate 120 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 2: to on an everyday basis. It was good to have 121 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 2: them in school. But that's not easily answered. Men. Men 122 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 2: need to see women as more than sex objects. But 123 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 2: pornography is not the problem. The problem is their nature 124 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 2: and how we deal with it. That's one of the 125 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 2: reasons it's wonderful that they marry, because then he relates 126 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 2: to a woman constantly in every facet of her humanity, 127 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 2: not just her sexuality. Number what six is that? What 128 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 2: I'm up to? The objections to it, anybody counting six? 129 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 2: That it is a substitute for real love, that a 130 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 2: man will use pornography masturbation as a substitute for making 131 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: love to a real woman. This is a danger. It 132 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 2: can happen. Correct, That it can happen doesn't mean it 133 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 2: always does, or even usually does. It can happen, and 134 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 2: if it does, it's bad. That's true. I don't mean 135 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 2: morally bad. It's bad. It could even be morally bad 136 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 2: if it means neglecting one's wife. Absolutely. But I came 137 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: up with a line last week in regard to this 138 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 2: that I would like to repeat more often than pornography 139 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 2: is a substitute for monogamy, it is much more often 140 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 2: a substitute for adultery. That's when he has these other 141 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 2: women that he's lusting for in his fantasy world. It 142 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 2: sounds to me like a pretty innocuous way to deal 143 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 2: with Remember that was one of the things from last week, 144 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 2: among the ways to deal with this monster of the 145 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: male sexual in nature. Now, one might say that's just 146 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 2: not good, it's not acceptable and fine, and if you 147 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 2: live that way, more power to you. Absolutely I respect that. 148 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,719 Speaker 2: I just want people to understand that one can, in 149 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 2: fact love one's wife, make love to one's wife, and 150 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 2: have this fantasy realm. That's what I told you. I 151 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 2: read as a kid, which was unbelievable to me. Men 152 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 2: have two sexual lives, one with their wife and one 153 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 2: in their head. And that's the way it is. And 154 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 2: it's no big deal. And grown ups can handle news 155 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 2: that isn't romantic. Would it be better the romantic way? 156 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 2: The way that woman described her ideal man as always 157 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 2: virle and only her. Maybe it wouldn't. Maybe you wouldn't. 158 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,719 Speaker 2: How do you know that means a man would be 159 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 2: a woman. Women don't want women. Women want men, they 160 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 2: think they want women. They test men to see whether well, 161 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 2: in fact become like a woman, and most or a 162 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 2: lot failed. But it's good to stay a man and 163 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 2: control yourself. There's nothing more. I learned a fascinating thing. 164 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 2: In fact, I did a show when I had a 165 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 2: TV show, What is it? It's very obvious what men 166 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 2: find sexy matters, very simple. What do women find sexy? 167 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: It was very interesting what a women or actually I 168 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 2: didn't even ask that. What do women find masculine? That's 169 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 2: what it was, and it was very interesting. I didn't 170 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 2: ask to under twenty five, under twenty five look at 171 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 2: bugs and this under twenty five and it's not even 172 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 2: worth asking, But twenty five year old women and over. 173 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 2: I asked a woman over twenty five, that's a woman, 174 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 2: not a girl. What is masculine? And it was very interesting. 175 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 2: I did this on the radio and on TV and 176 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 2: the overwhelming response and I couldn't make this up because 177 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 2: I never would have predicted it was commitment, responsibility. Women 178 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 2: love men who are responsible and am I right? Is 179 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 2: that fair? A lot of women are nodding as I say. 180 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 2: This is very interesting thing that may be part of 181 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 2: the reason that married men are very often desirable because 182 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 2: they show there is almost a masculine thing. See if 183 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 2: a man stays male, stays lustful, and stays monogamous, and 184 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 2: takes care of children, that's very masculine to a woman. 185 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 2: It's masculine to me as a man. That's what I 186 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 2: thought was masculine. Learn how to control yourself, but don't 187 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 2: give up your male good. Control myself doesn't mean become 188 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 2: a female. It means control myself, my male self. 189 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: This episode of timeless wisdom will continue right after this. 190 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: Now back to more of Dennis Prager's timeless wisdom thought. 191 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 2: I an argument against pornography is uh to me, the 192 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 2: only really uh a true one that I don't that. 193 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 2: I don't have a good answer to this sole interest 194 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 2: interest you. I suspect the women who pose are debased. 195 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 2: That's a tough one, not women in general. That's bologny 196 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 2: that I built. That's that's nonsense. I don't have an 197 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 2: answer to this because there are data in both directions, 198 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 2: so I don't know. That's what I said. And submarine 199 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 2: is jobby is like you know, bestiality for example, or 200 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 2: a gang bang a woman who who enacts a gang Bang. 201 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 2: I just have to believe there is some debasement there, 202 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 2: but you know, I don't know. All I can tell 203 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 2: you is, uh, here are the arguments on both sides. Okay, 204 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 2: the argument that it is debasing in the argument that 205 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 2: it is, the argument that it is. The human being 206 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 2: and especially the female, is by nature modest. I think 207 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 2: women have to learn not to be modest. Men are 208 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 2: not by nature modest. Did you ever raise a boy, 209 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 2: They would go with their gazigo hanging out as much 210 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 2: as you could possibly allow them to put it back in. 211 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 2: Is the most common statement made to a little boy. 212 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 2: We don't all need to see it. It's beautiful, it's wonderful, 213 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 2: but you know the Yankee Stadium doesn't really need to 214 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 2: see it. That is what the boys are, not by 215 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 2: nature modest. It's out there and they want the world 216 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 2: to see it. And if they can't see it, then 217 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 2: they'll see their spear or their gun or the fins 218 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 2: on the late fifties cadillacs, whatever phallic symbol can be 219 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 2: all right, So males have to learn modesty. Females do 220 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 2: not walk around showing their genitals off. First. They're hidden. 221 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 2: They're hidden by nature. Nature has already hidden of the 222 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 2: female genitalia while the males is exposed. As though there 223 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 2: is a lot of meaning to that fact. It's not 224 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 2: just coincidental. So I believe that the female by nature 225 00:15:54,600 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 2: does not readily expose herself to the public. If that, 226 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 2: there are no women flashes in all of the literature. 227 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 2: I have never come across women who wear trench coats, 228 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 2: who show off their pubic hair to little children or others. Okay, 229 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 2: you're laughing correctly. It's the idea is preposterous. It's not 230 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 2: a female perversion. Even even when female females are perverted, 231 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 2: they don't do that. But men are dying to show 232 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 2: themselves off. It's not an issue they look at me, 233 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 2: you know. This is this is men have to be 234 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 2: taught modesty. If I am right about that supposition, and 235 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 2: Wendy Shelleid has written this very interesting book on the 236 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 2: naturalness of female modesty, then something has to have happened 237 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 2: to get a woman to pose. I don't mean necessarily 238 00:16:54,800 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 2: pose in a very stylish way in soft porn. Certainly 239 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 2: not Victoria's Secret, where her breasts and her and her 240 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 2: genitaliam cubic hair covered. But even the softer nude of Playboy, 241 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: although it's tough, but with legs spread and I'm sorry 242 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 2: to be graphic. That's really where the line drawn between 243 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 2: hardcore and softer core, where genitals are exposed. I have 244 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 2: to believe that something happened to enable her to do that, 245 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 2: not necessarily childhood trauma, but could be maybe just aching 246 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 2: for money. The ape was so great that it was 247 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 2: worth doing it. And maybe I'm wrong, and I'm willing 248 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 2: to be wrong, because after all, I've been making the 249 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 2: case that pornography is not evil. But if I am 250 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 2: right about this, then there is this one moral element 251 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:00,120 Speaker 2: to pornography that if one is honest with one's self, 252 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 2: one has to take into account. I have interviewed strippers, 253 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 2: I have interviewed porn actresses, and it is a very 254 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 2: mixed bag. It is tempting to think that they all 255 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 2: were sexually molested as children. It is not the case, 256 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 2: at least from what I could gather, were, but a 257 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 2: lot of women were. Unfortunately, a lot of girls are, 258 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 2: a lot of boys are. Sadly so some are and 259 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:32,239 Speaker 2: some for some it sends them into unhealthy realms. In 260 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 2: other cases it's the money. A lot of them have 261 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 2: said to me, listen. Oh, and here is, by the way, 262 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 2: my proof on the modesty. Every stripper I ever interviewed, 263 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 2: and I would say it's about it's not one hundred 264 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 2: six all six that I have interviewed. Maybe it's ten. 265 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 2: I'm serious because I had them on the TV show. 266 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 2: I have done it in strip joints, so I don't 267 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 2: know it's about ten. I guess everyone found it incredibly 268 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 2: hard the first time. That was a giveaway to me. 269 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 2: The most easy going with showing her body and I 270 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 2: mean all of her body to total strangers, said the 271 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 2: first time was awful. I had to drink myself practically drunk. 272 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 2: They had to push me out there, and so that 273 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 2: tells me it's not natural. Something very powerful had to 274 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 2: be overcome in order to do it. But they say, 275 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 2: you know what, So I say, well, then why'd you 276 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 2: do it? Well, you molested as a kid. No, But frankly, 277 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 2: five hundred to one thousand dollars a night beats what 278 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 2: I get as a secretary, and I have a kid 279 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 2: to support. Or hey, I want a great car and 280 00:19:55,880 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 2: I want a house. So I'm just explaining the complexity 281 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 2: of all of this. On the other hand, today, in 282 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 2: today's society, in the Western world, posing nude is so 283 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 2: unstigmatized and so rewarded with fame and money and suitors. Listen, 284 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 2: after all, my orthodox Jewish bachelor wanted, after all, a bunny, right, 285 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 2: I mean, think about it. It's fascinating that fantasy. How 286 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 2: many men would really, how many even traditional men would 287 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 2: in fact reject the thought of marrying somebody who had 288 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 2: posed for Playboy or for another magazine. Not many. I 289 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 2: mean they would say, look, I want you to change 290 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 2: your life. Fine, and for some it's downright alluring. Hey, 291 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 2: I'm dating Miss May, my greater one. Well, Miss May 292 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 2: knows that I'll never forget. This was just mind blowing 293 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 2: to me in my thinking this stuff through. I'll never forget. 294 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 2: This must be twenty years ago, in front of Junior's Delicatessen. 295 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 2: I'm Westwood Boulevard and Pico Boulevard. I used to go 296 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 2: there every day for breakfast. I lived in the city. 297 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 2: And one day I'm coming out and I see people 298 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 2: lined up getting autographs and I asked who it is, 299 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 2: and it's miss April. I don't know what month it was, 300 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 2: but miss Whatever of Playboy. First, I'll tell you one 301 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 2: interesting reaction I had when I looked over there were 302 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 2: two women behind the table. I saw the women prior 303 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 2: to I knew what was going on, nothing special, and 304 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,719 Speaker 2: I had no reaction. I thought two women. Maybe they 305 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 2: were selling, you know, new household wares. I didn't know. 306 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 2: Then they said, oh, miss April's there, and then I 307 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 2: didn't even know which one was Miss April. It was 308 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 2: Miss April and a friend, which shows the power of 309 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 2: photography and whatever they could manipulate and jow, I just 310 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 2: want the women here to know that the reason that 311 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 2: you don't look like Miss April is because Miss April 312 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 2: doesn't look like Miss April. That it's very important for 313 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 2: women to know that. Okay, it's very important. But so 314 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 2: that was one interesting. But the other one was men 315 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 2: were going over to her with there with her centerfold, 316 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 2: and she was autographing, like by her pubic hair, and 317 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 2: I'm blown away, you know, like, oh, could you sign 318 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 2: right here, you know, on my pubic hair? You know, 319 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 2: like nothing, It's just like a non issue, you know, 320 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 2: And it was so so obviously at a given point 321 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 2: it becomes a non issue to these women, and it's 322 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 2: just a vehicle to start. I mean, I mean, I 323 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 2: did a show on this which got me a lot 324 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 2: of of I would say enemies, but people disliked me. 325 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 2: Sharon Stone was just testified at the United Nations. Now 326 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 2: Sharon Stone belongs testifying at the UN like I should 327 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 2: be giving a talk on neo metology. Okay, real natal 328 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 2: surgery on the spinal columns of embryos. Okay. I didn't 329 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 2: earn the right to give that lecture because I don't 330 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 2: know anything about it. Why is she famous in a 331 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 2: large part at his basic instinct the scene where she 332 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 2: spreads her legs with no underwear of Now, I'm not 333 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 2: judging that scene. I'm giving a whole thing here about 334 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 2: I'm not judging this particular issue. But what is the message. 335 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 2: The message is spread your legs testify at the UN. 336 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 2: That is the message that really is sent here. This 337 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 2: is not a She may be brilliant, but we don't. 338 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 2: That's not why she was there. She's famous for these scenes. 339 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 2: So maybe I'm wrong, you know, maybe they're not debates. 340 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 2: Maybe it is my god post for Playboy going a 341 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 2: major movie and and show myself, where do I line up? 342 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 2: Where can I pay to get this exposure? Literally? So 343 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,239 Speaker 2: I therefore have given you two arguments. I don't have 344 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 2: that answer. So even on the one issue that does 345 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 2: render this moral problem, there is another final problem, which 346 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 2: I'm gonna deal with next week, the religious problem with holiness. 347 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 2: And that's a very real one. I'm gonna talk about 348 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 2: that next week. I'm talking here from a humanistic standpoint. 349 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: This episode of Timeless Wisdom will continue right after this. 350 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: Now back to more of Dennis Praeger's Timeless Wisdom. 351 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 2: Okay, so two final thoughts and then I'll open up 352 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 2: to your questions and comments. We are living in an 353 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:20,199 Speaker 2: age of heterophobia. America may well have been homophobe a 354 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:25,199 Speaker 2: generation ago, but today it is heterophobic. I think a 355 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 2: major part of the public onslaught against heterosexual pornography, because 356 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 2: it's not against homosexual pornography, is that there is a 357 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 2: real anger at the at male sexuality. And you know 358 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 2: the radical feminist and they are very famous, well paid, 359 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 2: and they lecture everywhere. One of them is a dean 360 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:58,919 Speaker 2: of a major law school, Katherine McKinney. They actually believe 361 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 2: that sexual intercourse, all heterosexual intercourse, is essentially is essentially rape. 362 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 2: That the idea that a woman at let me read 363 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 2: to you. According to Dwarkin, that's Andrea Dwarkin. The women 364 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 2: who say they enjoy hetero sexual love making are collaborators 365 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 2: more base in their collaboration than other collaborators have ever 366 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 2: been experiencing pleasure in their own inferiority, calling intercourse freedom. 367 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 2: According to McKinnon, who was lectured at Harvard Yale, I 368 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 2: mean every She is honored as one of the seminal 369 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 2: thinkers on Male Female relations and on feminism. Feminism sees. 370 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 2: According to McKinnon, feminism quotes see sexuality as a social 371 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 2: sphere of male power, of which forced sex is paradigmatic. 372 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 2: Paradigmatic meaning the archetype, typical, the real, the typical example. 373 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 2: McKinnon's observations about heterosexual intercourse include the following. If there 374 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 2: is no inequality, no violation, no dominance, no force, there 375 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 2: is no sexual arousal. A man is incapable of being aroused. 376 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 2: She says. If there is no inequality, no violation, no dominance, 377 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 2: and no force. Now, if this were said about any 378 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 2: other group, the person would be called a bigot. But 379 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 2: if you say it about men, you are a professor 380 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 2: of law at the University of Michigan. Laws, Okay, there 381 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 2: is there is heterophobia today. In fact, the women who 382 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 2: were a great University of Massachusetts. I interviewed her on 383 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:52,400 Speaker 2: the radio, Daphne Hattai, a professor of actually Portuguese literature, 384 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 2: as it happens, but she wrote a book heterophobia, and 385 00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,199 Speaker 2: that's a very important word. There is a real anger 386 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 2: at male sexuality today. And this is what I'll give you. 387 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 2: The latest example. I talked about it on the radio 388 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 2: just yesterday of the Harvard dean who was demoted, who 389 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 2: was fired from his position because pornographic images were found 390 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 2: on his computer. He didn't play with any kids, he 391 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 2: wasn't unfaithful to his wife. He had images. So male 392 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 2: heterosexual fantasy is now a crime at Harvard. It's remarkable now. 393 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 2: Of course they say, well, he used the Harvard computer, 394 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 2: all I see. Whereas how to use the Harvard computer 395 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 2: to download stamp collecting information? He would guess he was 396 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 2: the head of the Divinity School. But the Divinity School 397 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 2: is not is not a clerical school. It is not 398 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 2: a seminary. It has the word divinity, but it should 399 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 2: be Harvard School of Religion. They teach religion. They were 400 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 2: atheists too who studied there. If he were dismissed as 401 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:12,239 Speaker 2: a Lutheran minister. That's the Lutheran Church's business. Religions can 402 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 2: set their own rules. If a minister masterbates and we 403 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 2: find out he's out of business, okay, fine, that's their prerogative. 404 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 2: But Harvard, Harvard's chief minister, the minister, the clergy in, 405 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 2: the chief clergyman of the place, is a practicing homosexual. 406 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 2: I am not saying that's wrong, but it is okay 407 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 2: to have I'm not saying the man does. But to Harvard, 408 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 2: it is okay to multiple lovers of the same sex 409 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 2: or opposite sex, but not to have images of women 410 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 2: on your computer. And this is all political correctness. What 411 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 2: is politically correct. Male sexuality is dirty, that's what's politically correct. 412 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 2: It's not politically correct to say, have you been agay? 413 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 2: There is no doubt in my mind if there were 414 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 2: images of naked men on his computer, they wouldn't have 415 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,959 Speaker 2: been a peep from Harvard because they would have been 416 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 2: called homophobic if they attacked him. Heterophobia is dominant male 417 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 2: sexuality for whatever reason. And I don't know the reason. 418 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,959 Speaker 2: It's interesting, interesting, and I don't know. I don't know 419 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 2: the origins. I understand that it is problematic. That's why 420 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 2: we've given all these this time to this issue. But 421 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 2: it's an easy target, it certainly is. And males are 422 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 2: too nice not to fight back or too too cowed 423 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 2: by this. If I had that on my computer and 424 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 2: I were that Dean, I would have I would have 425 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 2: challenged Harvard. I want to know exactly what is the 426 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,239 Speaker 2: wrong here that I am being demoted. I want to 427 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 2: know since when the fantasy life of a person is 428 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 2: reason now, I mean, we were told to leave the 429 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 2: president alone for his real life, and Harvard fires a 430 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 2: man for his fantasy life. That's that's unbelievable. And I'll 431 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 2: bet the same people at Harvard who defended the president 432 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 2: are the ones who think this guy should be fired. 433 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 2: So it's a very we live in a very confused time. 434 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: This episode of Timeless Wisdom will continue right after this. 435 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: Now back to more of Dennis Prager's Timeless Wisdom. 436 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 2: My final thought on this and next week I'll sum 437 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 2: it all up with the question of religion and all 438 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 2: of this not just religion, but I'm also going to 439 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 2: talk about adultery next week. And what is adultery is 440 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 2: almost as complex. It's probably actually it's far more complex 441 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,040 Speaker 2: than what is pornography. You may think it's simple, and 442 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 2: I'll show you how complex it is. But I just 443 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 2: summarize it by saying, please remember what does it and 444 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 2: we really want a man to be in light of 445 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 2: having that clarity of vision, then we can take our 446 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 2: positions on all of these things. Male sexuality is not 447 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 2: a monster. It is only a monster if we make 448 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 2: it a monster. It is a part of being a man. 449 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 2: It's okay, it's tough, but there are tough parts of 450 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 2: being a woman. There were tough it's tough. There's an 451 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 2: old yetter saying, spirit Susanne a year, it's tough to 452 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 2: be a Jew. As I got older, I realized that 453 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 2: while it was true, you could really drop a yid 454 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 2: Spirit Susanne, it's difficult to be period. Thank you very much. 455 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: This has been timeless wisdom with Dennis Prager. Visit dennispragger 456 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: dot com for thousands of hours of Dennis's lectures, courses, 457 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: and classic radio programs, and to purchase Dennis Prager's Rational Bibles.