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Hey, 51 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 2: good morning, folks, Welcome in and a Merry Christmas to you. 52 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 2: It is good to be with you on this Monday 53 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 2: morning in spite of the news which is very, very heavy. Unfortunately, 54 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 2: it was a pretty dark weekend across the country, around 55 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 2: the world, and look our telephone numbers eight five five 56 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 2: stick all we show up and continue to plow through 57 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 2: it anyway, as we get closer to Christmas, which is 58 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 2: the hope for all of earth, isn't it. I mean, 59 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 2: it was good to be in worship piss today and 60 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 2: remember that that's really what this holiday season is all about. 61 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:47,839 Speaker 2: And as dark as things may be, that's the light 62 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: that we're all hopefully working toward. And so something to 63 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 2: keep in mind. And boy, if you're not a believer, 64 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 2: I hope you become one in a season like this this, 65 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 2: you know. I guess we'll start internationally. We've got Victoria 66 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 2: Coats coming in a little later to talk about this 67 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 2: and what it means exactly. Police say a father and 68 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 2: son were behind the mass shooting that left sixteen people dead, 69 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: including one of the gunmen, and forty people hospitalized during 70 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 2: a Honuka celebration at Bondi Beach in Sydney, Australia. Newth 71 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: South Wales Police Commissioner Lanyon said that during a press 72 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 2: conference Monday, Australia in Australia, that a fifty year old 73 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 2: man and his twenty four year old son carried out 74 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 2: the attack. Father is dead, son in critical but stable 75 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 2: condition in the hospital. Father a licensed gun owner with 76 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 2: six legally registered firearms. All six of the firearms have 77 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: been recovered, with some being recovered at the scene, others 78 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 2: located and recovered while investigators execute search warrants. You know, 79 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: reports are that this was obviously a targeting, specifically of 80 00:03:54,320 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 2: Jewish folks launching their Hanuka celebrations, and that in fact 81 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: these guys were their reports are likely Islamists. I'm not 82 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 2: going to go out too far on a limb on 83 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 2: what we know or don't know, because I don't have 84 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 2: all of it in front of me, but it sounds 85 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 2: like that's the reporting that I read sounds like that's 86 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 2: what motivated it. Meanwhile, the shooting here domestically at Brown 87 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 2: University a little less clear. They thought they had nabbed 88 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 2: somebody yesterday. They took somebody of interest in custody but 89 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 2: released that guy. A gunman burst into a classroom at 90 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 2: Brown University in Rhode Island on Saturday, killing two people, 91 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 2: wounding nine others before fleeing the campus. The search dragging 92 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 2: on still. The Ivy League university has lifted their lockdown 93 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 2: early yesterday, but said they canceled all remaining classes and 94 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 2: exams for the rest of the fall semester. Shooting occurring 95 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 2: Saturday afternoon in a room in the Barras and Holly 96 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 2: Building where students were attending a final exam review session 97 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: for an economics class. The Brown University president said that 98 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 2: others students inside the building. We're taking final exams and 99 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 2: seeking quiet places to study. First shooting report at four 100 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: o'clock in the afternoon, and many students hidden their dorms. 101 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 2: Heavily armed police officers and protective gear running down the street. 102 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 2: Who is the gunman? Authority still searching for this person. 103 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,119 Speaker 2: They said that Sunday night they had released a person 104 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 2: of interest they detained earlier in the day. The Providence 105 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: police chief said at a news conference last night, investigators 106 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 2: did not find enough evidence to charge the detained person 107 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: in connection with the attack, and they have not named 108 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 2: any other suspects so far. So it you know, yesterday 109 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 2: the President called a press conference to the White House 110 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 2: lit what he did, what they call lift a lid 111 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 2: on of the weekend or Sunday activities, and gathered some folks, 112 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 2: made some brief comments off the top here about these 113 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 2: two incidents. Let's go to number ninety four. Yes, pay 114 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 2: my respects to the people. 115 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 6: Unfortunately two are no longer with us Brown University, nine 116 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 6: injured and two are looking down on us. 117 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 7: Right now from heaven. 118 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 6: And likewise, in Australia, as you. 119 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 2: Know, that was a terrible attack. 120 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 6: Eleven did, twenty nine badly wounded, and that was an 121 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 6: antisemitic attack obviously, and that I just want to pay 122 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 6: my respects to everybody, I must say. In Syria also 123 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 6: we had an attack in Syria and we had three 124 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 6: great patriots terminated by bad people and not the Syrian government. 125 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 6: There was isis Syrian government foot by our side. The 126 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 6: new president fought by our side, but I just want 127 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 6: to pay my respects to the families. We also had 128 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 6: three injured, but two of them are already out of 129 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 6: the hospital. 130 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 8: Once going to be okay, but we lost through. 131 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 2: So it was a rough It was a rough day. 132 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 6: But to Australian, the Prime Minister, to everybody that we 133 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 6: know so well, we get along with so well, well 134 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 6: have a great relationship, that's a terrible situation going on 135 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 6: over there, think of that, yeah. 136 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 2: And he went on to mention and I didn't in 137 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 2: the reporting in that Australian shooting incident, someone did actually 138 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 2: finally inject themselves in the situation. I don't know if 139 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: you saw the footage specifically of that Australian event, but 140 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 2: some people had a vantage point and did you see 141 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 2: any of the footage of these two this father son 142 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 2: duo apparently shooting from this bridge and there were people 143 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 2: with phones. I don't know, I guess from a decent distance. 144 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 2: I don't know where they were taking the footage, but 145 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 2: there was footage of these guys just plain as day, 146 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 2: standing on a bridge, just firing at people. And I 147 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 2: don't know where people had the cell phone footage where 148 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 2: they were recording it. But it was just a I mean, 149 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 2: I'm sorry to sound vulgar, but it was kind of 150 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 2: a Turkey shoot of sorts. These guys were just standing 151 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 2: there firing away. And finally somebody I guess engaged at 152 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 2: one point and took one of them down with his 153 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 2: own gun, or at least held him at bay with 154 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 2: his own gun. But these guys just fired away uncumbered 155 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 2: for some time. You see any of that footage I did. 156 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 7: That's what was so scary, Chris, is that there was 157 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 7: nobody really rushing to kind of stop them. Everybody was. 158 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 7: Everything that I saw from the vantage points, as you said, 159 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 7: was people filming. But when they did find that guy, 160 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 7: the good samaritan who took the guy down, even he 161 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 7: let the terrorists live, like he didn't shoot and kill him. 162 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 7: And now I don't know if he didn't know maybe 163 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 7: the gun he didn't know how to operate it, or 164 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 7: if there weren't any wasn't any ammunition left. But then 165 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 7: the dad or whoever whoever gets back to the bridge 166 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 7: picks up a gun and starts firing again. Like what 167 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 7: took the police so long? 168 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 9: You know? 169 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 2: And I don't want to be callous about it. Right now. 170 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 2: But I will say that I saw some people, you know, 171 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 2: in Australai. You some commentators saying, oh, this is just 172 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 2: so shocking because it doesn't happen here, because and I quote, 173 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 2: we have the strictest gun laws in the world. I 174 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 2: heard a couple of people saying, through their grief, we 175 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 2: have the strictest gun laws in the world. How does 176 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 2: this happen? And all I kept thinking to myself was 177 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 2: you have the strictest gun laws in the world because 178 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 2: people know that they can show up and start shooting 179 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 2: on people like this and there's no recourse, and it 180 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 2: may take I mean, they may be able to carry 181 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 2: out an attack like this to your point ed for 182 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 2: minutes upon minutes upon minutes uninterrupted. Now, look, you can 183 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 2: say whatever you want about the gun culture in the 184 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 2: United States. I'm not even going to debate it with you. 185 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 2: But do you think in this day and age, with 186 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 2: the number of concealed carries in our midst do you 187 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 2: think somebody is going to be able to just openly 188 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 2: shoot on people for that period of time uninterrupted in 189 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 2: the United States in twenty twenty five. I don't think so. 190 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 2: I wouldn't bet on it. I mean, if I look, 191 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 2: if I'm just a wacko and I'm going to walk 192 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 2: into a place and start opening fire, I that's the 193 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 2: day I die. I presume that I'm gone. These guys 194 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 2: seem to be able to operate with impunity and not 195 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 2: really fear any kind of retaliation whatsoever, even well I'm 196 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 2: still alive. 197 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 7: Amazingly, we've seen it in action, Chris. There's been at 198 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 7: least two instances in the last three years of churches 199 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 7: where someone walked in with a firearm, went to open fire, 200 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 7: and whoever was on security popped them right away. The 201 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 7: good guy with the guys. 202 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't you know, I don't have to 203 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 2: talk about it. But what I love and know about 204 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 2: my church is every door is watched, every door is manned, 205 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 2: and every guy at every door is ready to go 206 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 2: if need be. I'll just leave it at that, because 207 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 2: you know, you can't these days, you just can't. You know, 208 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 2: this kind of badness is sadly becoming more prolific, and 209 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 2: the weapon of choice matters. Not because, after all, we've 210 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 2: certainly seen stabbings, but if it's going to be guns, 211 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 2: you want to be out. You don't want to be 212 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 2: out gunned. That's the point you want people if they're 213 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 2: going to try something like this, You want people to 214 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 2: think twice about it, or at least really lives. If 215 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 2: they're going to do it, it's not going to take 216 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 2: long before they're done. These guys didn't appear to I mean, 217 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 2: they came with something like how many guns that I said, 218 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 2: nine registered weapons or some such thing. 219 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 7: A lot. 220 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 2: I don't know if it was nine, but it was 221 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 2: quite a few. President Trump did address the citizen in 222 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 2: Australia who eventually approached one of these gunmen, not number 223 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 2: ninety five. 224 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 6: So we don't get ourselves in any trouble, but they 225 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 6: have a person of interest at Brown And in Australia 226 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 6: we probably read it's been there's been a very very 227 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 6: brave person actually who went and attacked frontally one of 228 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 6: the shooters and saved a lot of lives. So very 229 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 6: brave person who's right now in the hospital pretty seriously wounded. 230 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 6: So great respect to that man that did that. 231 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 2: So's that's what we know about these two instances at 232 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 2: the moment. There's not much more to report. They thought 233 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 2: they had a die, I am sure. I mean, they've 234 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 2: they've got some video of this guy at Brown kind 235 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 2: of casually walking down the street and around the corner. 236 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 2: I suspect they're probably going to close in on whoever 237 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 2: this is anytime soon, of course, if we get more 238 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 2: information on it. It strikes me very similarly as sort 239 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 2: of a Luisy Mangioni kind of a thing, right ed, 240 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 2: Probably a couple of days maybe whoever this guy is 241 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 2: on foot. I mean these days, you know, with cell 242 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 2: phone pinging and all the cameras everywhere, license plate tracking. 243 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 2: I mean, we saw this with the Charlie Kirk shooting. 244 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 2: They catch these guys, it's just a matter of win. 245 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 7: Now. Having been through this a few times in law 246 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 7: enforcement officials that speak to this show, at least, I 247 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 7: do have confidence that yes, they're on it, because you know, 248 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 7: we went through Daniello Cavalcanti, Luigi Mangioni, like we I 249 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 7: think we can say he's got it. 250 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's you know, what do you say about evil? 251 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 2: What do you say about darkness? It always is, it 252 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 2: always has been, it always will be. Until we're all 253 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 2: home and we pray for those families. It's a tough 254 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 2: time of year. It's never an easy time of year 255 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 2: when things like this happened particularly right now, more in 256 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 2: a moment. Meanwhile, one other bit of news that broke 257 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 2: out yesterday afternoon is the death of Rob Reiner and 258 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 2: his wife, which appears to be if People magazine reporting 259 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 2: is to be believed, and that of all places, it's 260 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,599 Speaker 2: not even TMZ. It's People magazine is the first to 261 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 2: report it that I'm seeing. They're saying that I guess 262 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 2: his son, one of his sons, Rob Reiner's son and 263 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 2: his wife Michelle, they have three kids, and one of 264 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 2: them is apparently historically pretty troubled, has had trouble with drugs, 265 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 2: has been in and out of harmlessness. I was just 266 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 2: reading a little about him last night and said he 267 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 2: had been pretty clean and sober for a while, working 268 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 2: on projects with his dad. It didn't look like as 269 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 2: of twenty sixteen, seventeen. I was reading some interviews from 270 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 2: back then that said he was doing okay. So no, 271 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 2: but people are saying that Rob Reiner and his wife 272 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 2: Michelle were found stabbed to death in their home, and 273 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 2: that it was his son that's being questioned on the murders. 274 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 2: Reading this from The New York Times found it in 275 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 2: their home Sunday in Los Angeles officials say they're investigating 276 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 2: the deaths is homicides. Reiner's seventy eight. Unclear how they died, 277 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 2: as the New York Times, but again people saying it's 278 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 2: their son, which is just unthinkable if true. LA Police 279 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 2: Department said they're investigating and apparent homicide. News of the 280 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 2: deaths spread quickly, of course. Officers responded to the deaths 281 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 2: at the home around three point forty in the afternoon 282 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 2: West Coast time on Sunday. Police identified it as mister 283 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 2: Reiner's residence and said that officers discovered two bodies inside, 284 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 2: treating it as a homicide investigation. So I just don't 285 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 2: you know, Look, what do you say about that, other 286 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 2: than it's unthinkable and unimaginable if true, that this is 287 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 2: the hands of your own son. I mean, I think 288 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 2: about the brother and sister of this guy, the surviving 289 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 2: children of the winers. Can you imagine that kind of 290 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 2: thing in your own family. I can't even get my 291 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 2: head wrapped around it. One of your siblings kills your parents. 292 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't even know how you process that. Frankly, No, 293 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 2: it's just such a human tragedy. 294 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's one of those things that when you hear 295 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 7: about it and when it pops up, brings into question 296 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 7: everything in your life, of course, but it's scary in 297 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 7: a different way because you never think that that could happen, 298 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 7: you know, until it does. 299 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean when I first heard it, I thought, well, 300 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 2: I mean I thought the first thing when I read it, 301 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 2: I thought, okay, like a carbon monoxide event. And then 302 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 2: you hear they're stabbed, and you think, okay, well, then 303 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 2: someone broke in and robbed them was the next thing. 304 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 2: I thought. It's tragic and awful still, but I thought, okay, 305 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 2: someone was robbing them at the hands of their own son. 306 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 2: Perhaps People Magazine is reporting. I don't have that confirmed independently, 307 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 2: but that's what People Magazine is saying, And if so, 308 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 2: I don't I'm not sure what you do with that. 309 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 2: That's that is a mental illness, obviously, and apparently a 310 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 2: pretty heavy drug addict at one point. I don't know 311 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 2: if that's still the case here. I mean, we'll know more. 312 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll learn more in the days and hours 313 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 2: to come, but geesh, So those are the very very 314 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 2: heavy stories here, CARDI. Let me get you quickly here 315 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 2: in California, I don't have a ton of time, Cardi, 316 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 2: but go ahead, you got about thirty seconds. 317 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 10: Marry Christmas, Chris and frastready real quick. Australia, when you 318 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 10: disarm the people, that's never going to work out, and 319 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 10: when you let math migration of people that don't assimulate, 320 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 10: there's the problem. And I'm not ashamed to say that. 321 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 10: And people shouldn't say, well, I'm sorry to say that. 322 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 10: You should never be sorry and go on your convictions. 323 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 2: Thank you, yeah, thank you, Cardi. I appreciate it. No, 324 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 2: you can't take firearms out of the hands of people. 325 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 2: And yes, you're right. I mean I don't will know more, 326 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 2: we'll learn more about who these assassins are in Australia. 327 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 2: But it does it does sound like it's a migration problem. Look, 328 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 2: Paris has canceled their New Year's Eve parade in celebration 329 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 2: on the champsi les A because the violence is too great. 330 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 2: More a minute. That's a depressed town. I'll tell you 331 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 2: if eever there was one. And that's you know, all 332 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 2: the serious news set aside for a minute the non 333 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 2: serious news. But for people that follow uh sports, that's yesterday. 334 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes suffers a knee injury. That's likely gonna It's 335 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 2: a torn ACL is what it sounds like. And so 336 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 2: Mahomes missing the playoffs for the first time in a 337 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 2: decade and probably now. I mean, depending on who you 338 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 2: listen to, torn ACL that's never good. That's like minimum 339 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 2: nine months recovery and who knows, maybe more so that's 340 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 2: going to be well into next year. So you may 341 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 2: be talking about a season starting next year. Fast Eddie 342 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 2: would know Pat Mahomes at all. 343 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 7: You know what, if it's going to happen, happen now 344 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 7: during this season. I feel so bad, man. That is 345 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 7: just that's a loss for the sports world as a whole. 346 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 2: If it's uh and it was yeah, ugly, ugly, ugly 347 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 2: season in general, it's one of those things where you 348 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 2: would have rather than that happened to him and he 349 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 2: just kind of sit down and call it the season 350 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 2: and be done. So eliminated from the playoffs yesterday, and 351 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 2: then that on top of it, it's like insult to injury. 352 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:25,479 Speaker 2: But yes, so that's that's yeah. For people that follow sports, 353 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 2: that's a weird event. Ten years he's been in the 354 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 2: postseason until this one. 355 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 7: I just thought, yeah, I remember seeing him for the 356 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 7: first time. It was actually on a business trip at 357 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 7: a huge sports bar and just seeing him make that, 358 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 7: like that crazy shovel pass and the different things that 359 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 7: he's done. It's like I've I've watched Patrick Mahomes from 360 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 7: the very beginning. I can't say that with every other 361 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 7: legendary quarterback that we've seen, and it's it's this one 362 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 7: hurts bad. 363 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, And of course you know, now that also means 364 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 2: a guy like Andy Reid, who's been around forever and 365 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 2: they've been together for a very long time. Does you know, 366 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 2: Andy Reid start to consider what does the season look 367 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 2: like without Patrick Mahomes headed into the fall? 368 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 7: You know, Andy Reid's built so many quarterbacks. I don't 369 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 7: know how you. I don't know how you build another 370 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 7: one if you, I mean, he could, he is that good. 371 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 7: He could do it, but I don't. Patrick Mahomes is 372 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 7: pretty unique. 373 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's gonna be an interesting thing to see 374 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 2: how the soldier a head there in Kansas City. But anyway, 375 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 2: so that's that's the news there if you're a Chiefs fan. 376 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 2: On top of all the other serious and real news, 377 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 2: there's that to end your weekend. So oof eight five 378 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 2: five stigall is how you reach us today if you'd 379 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 2: like to get in here, always welcome you. And by 380 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 2: the way, may I just say let me take a 381 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,959 Speaker 2: minute here and say to you, I just looked at 382 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 2: this this morning. I hadn't looked over the weekend. I've 383 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 2: kept it in prayer because I have no doubt. I 384 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 2: don't I don't even think about it with you people. 385 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 2: I said a couple of weeks ago to the folks 386 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 2: at the Angel Tree Prison Fellowship Ministry that we're going 387 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 2: to try to raise enough funds to get twenty six 388 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 2: hundred kids taken care of with a this year from 389 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 2: the Prison Fellowship folks. And what is this if for 390 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 2: some reason you're new to the show or you're just 391 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 2: happening by it and you haven't heard about this, the 392 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:13,199 Speaker 2: Prison Fellowship team, this ministry, if ever we need it, 393 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 2: if ever people need it, if ever hearts need it, now, 394 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 2: it's now more than ever they need it now. And 395 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 2: the Prison Fellowship people introduce children homes that have an 396 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 2: incarcerated parent, Children who may feel like they don't have 397 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 2: a whole lot going on in their lives, not a 398 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 2: lot of joy, wondering if mom or dad is even 399 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 2: thinking about them this Christmas. Maybe they don't have much 400 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 2: of a Christmas at all. I don't know if you 401 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 2: grew up not having a parent around or not knowing 402 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 2: if your parent was thinking about you at Christmas. If 403 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 2: you did, you know what that feels like. Prison Fellowship 404 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 2: wants to do something about that. They allow with a 405 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 2: thirty dollars gift. And that's all. It takes thirty bucks. Now, 406 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 2: you know as well as I do. You can go 407 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 2: out and blow thirty bucks at wah wah or quick 408 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 2: trip or wherever you may stop for your coffee and 409 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 2: maybe a snack or two, certainly feeling up a gas tank. 410 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 2: But you can't get two pizzas for thirty dollars for 411 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 2: revens sakes. But you know what Prison Fellowship can do 412 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 2: with thirty dollars. They can get a gift in a 413 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 2: child's hand, with a handwritten note from their incarcerated parent 414 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 2: letting them know they're being thought of. And most importantly, 415 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 2: they get a Bible in their hands with that gift, 416 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 2: and that may be the first introduction to scripture that 417 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 2: that home may know. And statistically this helps break the 418 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 2: cycle we know of violence and criminality when young children 419 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 2: are exposed to this kind of hope and this kind 420 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 2: of kindness at a time they desperately need it. I 421 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 2: hope you can help. So far looked at it. We've 422 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 2: now hit a place where we're inside that threshold. I 423 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 2: wanted to get this week to a thousand kids left, 424 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 2: and you've done that. You really came through this week, 425 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 2: and I think we're at something like seventeen one hundred 426 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 2: and twenty five something like that. But we're really close now. 427 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 2: Again set the goal to take care of twenty six 428 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 2: hundred kids, and i'd really we've still got some time, 429 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 2: but I would really like to get this done by 430 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 2: the week's end. So I'm looking to push to see 431 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 2: if we can't get this thing all wrapped up in 432 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 2: the next five days, and depending on who's feeling extra generous, 433 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 2: we could get it done sooner than that. I never 434 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 2: want to pressure anybody. Thirty bucks for some people is 435 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 2: a lot for some of you who've been blessed, not 436 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 2: as big as an inconvenience. If you can help, will you 437 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 2: do it today? Listen to an ambassador with Prison Fellowship 438 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 2: Germaine here, former prisoner himself. Take a listen to this. 439 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 9: There wasn't a Christmas that went by where he didn't 440 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 9: hear or receive something from his dad. So that void 441 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 9: that he, like most kids have, my son was able 442 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 9: to have that void fulfilled during Christmas time because gifts 443 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 9: always came on behalf of his dad, and so he 444 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 9: knows Dad was there during the holiday season. Although he 445 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 9: couldn't see me that day. The gifts was a great 446 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 9: representation and filled my spot. 447 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 2: So we have made this that's really easy. I hope 448 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 2: for you to give if you can do it. Thirty 449 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 2: bucks gets one child cared for for this Christmas season 450 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 2: and you can do the math from there. Sixty dollars 451 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 2: takes care too, and so on. Can you help us? 452 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 2: Can you get us to this goal of twenty six 453 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 2: hundred kids again? I think we're getting real close to 454 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 2: eighteen hundred kids, which is awesome. You guys. I so 455 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 2: blessed to know that this audience I can count on 456 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 2: you to have these kids back this great work that 457 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 2: the Prison Fellowship folks do. I can't say enough about them, 458 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 2: and I always encourage you to do your own research 459 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 2: on Prison Fellowship if you like, because I know you're 460 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,479 Speaker 2: discerning and it matters where your dollars go Chris Stigall 461 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 2: dot com. There's a banner there. Easy way to do 462 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 2: this too. You can text my name Chris. We just 463 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 2: set this up late last week. Text my name Chris 464 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 2: to nine four eight seven eight and we'll send you 465 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 2: a link directly right now to your phone. 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I'm doing this completely free. 476 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 2: I am opening the Harrum Society all week long to everybody. 477 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 2: Everyone can read it, everybody in the pool. There are 478 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 2: no boundaries to the entirety of the newsletter on Monday, 479 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 2: Wednesday and Friday. For those of you that would like 480 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 2: to give it as a gift, I've marked it down 481 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 2: to thirty dollars, or if you want to take an 482 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,959 Speaker 2: advantage of getting a subscription for next year, it's thirty dollars. 483 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 8: Now. 484 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,199 Speaker 2: The reason I'm offering it to you for free is 485 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 2: the hope. Notice that thirty dollars. I'm hopeful that for 486 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 2: the rest of the month, as I open it up 487 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 2: for free, you will take that thirty dollars and you 488 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 2: will hand it over to Prison Fellowship. That's my hope. 489 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 2: So whatever you can do, that's all found at christigall 490 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 2: dot com, the Hurrum Society, the Prison Fellowship information and more. 491 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 2: All right, let me so I can say I addressed 492 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,199 Speaker 2: it today. Is supposed to be as I understand it. 493 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 2: Unless this has changed, I haven't followed it closely. The 494 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 2: Turning Point, folks, Charlie's organization, Turning Point USA is supposed 495 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 2: to or was supposed to have a live stream sort 496 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 2: of broad based address tackling all the assertions that people 497 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 2: like Candace Owens and others have made at their organization. 498 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 2: Is that true? 499 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 6: Ed? 500 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 2: That was my understanding of it. A couple of weeks 501 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,239 Speaker 2: ago they invited Candace to be a part of it. 502 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 2: She once said any time, anywhere, absolutely, I'll be there, 503 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 2: and then as soon as they said, okay, December fifteenth, 504 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 2: be there. We're going to address everything you had to say. 505 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 2: We'd love to have you, she said, oh, I can't 506 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 2: possibly make December fifteenth, and so she's backed out of it. 507 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 2: As I understand it, there's a bit of a bit 508 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 2: of a dynamic that's changed on the ground. I'll update 509 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 2: you on a second here. But the turning point, folks 510 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 2: are still going forward with that or do you know different? 511 00:25:55,880 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 7: I I don't know that she's she's still I'm not 512 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 7: going to be it's not going to be in any 513 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 7: time anywhere for us to see type deal. 514 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 2: Well I know Candace isn't. But are the turning point 515 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 2: people are still going to do the live stream where 516 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 2: they address everything that she said. That was what they 517 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 2: said they were going to do today, regardless of participation. 518 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 2: I wonder if that's still happening. 519 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 7: Okay, I to be determined, because there's something that has 520 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 7: popped up since then. 521 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 2: Actually, right, this is the this is the new news. 522 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 2: And I look, I said this yesterday on X to 523 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 2: Erica Kirk. She's a better Christian than me. I commend 524 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 2: her for doing this. I don't know that it ends 525 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 2: well for if I'm going to be completely truthful, because 526 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 2: I don't think you're dealing with a person of goodwill 527 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 2: at all in Candace owns and good will matters. By 528 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 2: the way, can we just stop for a minute and 529 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 2: say goodwill matters? Okay? Like regard, I don't care what 530 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 2: you think you know for real, I don't care what 531 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 2: the real scoop is. I don't care what real story 532 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 2: you're not being hold you think you know. I don't care. 533 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 2: There's something called good will, and it's lacking in this country, 534 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 2: and it's really lacking with people like Candace Goodwill just 535 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 2: being a decent person, not being wicked and nasty toward 536 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 2: a woman who's just lost her husband, Like I don't. 537 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 2: I can't get my head wrapped around it. And Erica, 538 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 2: I think, with as much dignity as she can Muster 539 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 2: has been going around and doing media stops and talking 540 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 2: about Charlie's latest book and trying to directly address this 541 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 2: stuff without having to say her by name, and now 542 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 2: posts on social media Erica Kirk announcing yesterday she intends 543 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 2: to meet with Candace Owens today in person. Candace Owens 544 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 2: and I have agreed that public discussions, live streams and 545 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 2: tweets are on hold until after this meeting. So turning point, 546 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 2: I guess that answers our question was scheduled to have 547 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 2: a big live stream today to address Cannon. Candace said 548 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 2: I'm not coming. Turning Points said, we're going ahead with 549 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 2: it anyway, And now Erica says, yesterday, Candace and I 550 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 2: are going to sit down privately, and so all tweets 551 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 2: are on hold until after this meeting. What do you 552 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 2: think of that? 553 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 7: Head, I'm hoping for some kind of real resolution. I'm 554 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 7: hoping that it's not a show on either of their 555 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 7: First of. 556 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 2: All, zero chance, I mean, let's just can I just 557 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 2: say this, Zero chance Candice Owens goes away. Zero chance, 558 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 2: Candice Owens shuts her fat mouth. Zero chance. Candice Owens 559 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 2: is of goodwill. Zero chance. Candice Owens gives even Christmas 560 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 2: a break. Zero chance. Zero chance. Having said that, Erica 561 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 2: Kirk is hopeful, I suppose what would you advise Erica 562 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 2: Kirk to do were she to ask. I'll tell you 563 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 2: one thing I'd advise her to do. Have a camera 564 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 2: rolling and Mike's open record every last minute of this raw. 565 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 7: Yes, uh yeah, definitely. I mean you have to you 566 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 7: have to do. 567 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 2: You don't sit down with this woman without recording every 568 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 2: last word of it. If you don't do it, I 569 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 2: hope she knows that anyway, shouldn't be with you. And 570 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 2: Merry Christmas. It's a beautiful looking sunrise this morning in Washington, 571 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 2: d C. Where time's a ticken. Not much left to 572 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 2: discuss Obamacare and whether we will have an extension of 573 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 2: the existing subsidies where Republicans offer something different. Of course, 574 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 2: you know, the Democrats want to do nothing but just 575 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 2: rubber stamp the existing subsidies for another three years. They 576 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 2: want to take them through Trump's term and then they 577 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 2: want to run on it. I mean, right, if you're 578 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 2: going to do the math, it's pretty good that the 579 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 2: Democrats say we want a three year extension on Obamacare. 580 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 2: Why three? I mean, like, if you're Democrats, do the 581 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 2: math on it. If you're Democrats, why say three? Walk 582 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 2: it out? What's three years from now presidential elections? That's 583 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 2: what's three years from now? I mean, if you're that 584 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 2: committed and you're that serious to it, why not say five? 585 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 2: Why not say ten? Why not say let's put this 586 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 2: to bed and let's subsidize insurance for everyone forever, and 587 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 2: let's just not put a ceiling on it if you're 588 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 2: serious about it. Of course they're not. They know it's 589 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 2: a political weapon, so that's why they've said three year extension. 590 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 2: Republicans say no, all right, Well, come the turn of 591 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 2: the calendar. That means people's insurance rates are going to 592 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 2: go up, and so will Republicans get blamed? Are they 593 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 2: going to be able to explain their way out of this? 594 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 2: Will they be able to offer something different? I mean, 595 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 2: with the what two weeks we have left? Two full 596 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 2: weeks left, and I'm not even sure they're going to 597 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 2: govern for a full two weeks if at all. I 598 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 2: don't know what will come of it. But I appreciate 599 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 2: that Erica Kirk is trying to extend goodwill here to 600 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 2: someone who does not deserve it. And this is again 601 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 2: why she's a better Christian than me. Cannice Owens. If 602 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 2: I'm in Erica Kirk's position, deserves no quarter, she deserves 603 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 2: no compassion, she deserves no open arms, she deserves no 604 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 2: private meetings. She does not deserve the dignity of being 605 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 2: addressed directly. She has no knowledge of the inner workings 606 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 2: of this organization or what's going on inside the Kirk home. 607 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 2: She has done nothing but bully and harass and badger 608 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 2: this family going through terrible grief, And now they're granting 609 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 2: her the opportunity to sit down face to face with 610 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 2: them today and I don't know what, I guess try 611 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 2: to answer her questions to the best of their ability. 612 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 2: Do you think she's going to come away? Folks? I 613 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 2: told you what this is. It's revelation addiction, and Candace 614 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 2: Owens has built a show on it. Then she's not alone. 615 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 2: Of course, I do find it interesting that Megan Kelly 616 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 2: has all of the sudden decided to weigh in at 617 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 2: least a little bit, certainly not by name. But I 618 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 2: find it interesting that all of a sudden Megan has 619 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 2: decided to address sort of address Candace Owens a little bit. Again, 620 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 2: not by name. Number eighty six. Here's Megan weighing in 621 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 2: on this. 622 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 11: Finally, because I am a sane person who understands the law, 623 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 11: I also know that the FBI hello does not run 624 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 11: around updating its investigation and releasing the very latest on 625 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 11: what they found, and people who are demanding that the 626 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 11: FBI or DOJ do so do not know anything about 627 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 11: law enforcement. Some of us have been covering in depth 628 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 11: legal cases and matters and have even tried cases and 629 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 11: matters for years. 630 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: That is how I have spent the. 631 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 11: Past thirty years of my life plus trying cases involved 632 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 11: in the legal system, as a trial attorney, then a 633 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 11: Supreme Court correspondent covering cases civil and criminal, then as 634 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 11: a legal correspondent for Fox News, legal commentator for Fox News, 635 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 11: and ever thereafter. 636 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: And let me tell you something. The FBI does. 637 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 11: Not run around updating its information after somebody gets indicted. 638 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 2: It doesn't. 639 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: It would be extraordinary, That's right. 640 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 2: So you know, Look, you don't have to be a 641 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 2: legal correspondent and practice law for three hundred years to 642 00:32:55,560 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 2: understand that. You hope she's addressing people like Canvas who 643 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 2: think that the FBI, like we, deserve regular briefings on 644 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 2: what they know when you're trying to prosecute a guy. 645 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 2: But I will just say I admire Erica Kirk tremendously 646 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 2: for trying to do what she's going to do today 647 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 2: with Candice Owans. But I know, I think we all 648 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 2: understand who Candiss Owans is. She has built and to 649 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 2: her credit, she has built a cult like following that 650 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 2: is rabid for her content and good for her. I mean, 651 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 2: it's a great business model. You know, people, what are 652 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 2: you jealous? Stick on? I mean, I guess jealous in 653 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 2: the sense. Look, do I wish that I had such 654 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 2: rapt attention from people, you know, that they were throwing 655 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 2: watch parties to consume this show. I mean, I guess. 656 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 2: But I'm not going to create fan fiction to do it. 657 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 2: I'm not going to drag widows and grieving families and 658 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,719 Speaker 2: parents through the mud to do it. I'm not going 659 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 2: to make wild accusations that I can't prove to do it. 660 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 2: Look when Alex Jones comes out over the weekend and says, 661 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 2: Alex Jones ed, this is where we are. Alex Jones 662 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 2: comes out over the weekend and says, you know, I 663 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 2: think we all ought to calm down a little bit. 664 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 2: The right's getting kind of fractured. 665 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 7: Welcome to the party. 666 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 2: Indeed more in a minute. Yes, I know it's the holidays. 667 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 2: I know this is not a time of year most 668 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 2: people think about losing weight. But you know, our executive 669 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 2: producer Fast Eddie is doing it. He's using PhD weight 670 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 2: Loss right now as a weight loss tool. Through the 671 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 2: holiday season. It can be done. 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Good to be with you, 719 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,919 Speaker 2: and welcome in to this Monday edition of This Stagall Show. 720 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,320 Speaker 2: I hope you're doing well. I hope you had a 721 00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 2: great weekend. Looking live at some of the scenery in 722 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 2: New York and the surrounding areas. They're listening to the 723 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 2: answer Am nine seventy the answer in New York and 724 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 2: its surrounding areas. That's probably somewhere that looks to be 725 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 2: maybe like a Staten island or something. Maybe maybe oh, 726 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 2: it's a nice, well lit neighborhood out there. Fast EDDI 727 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 2: did some christmasing this weekend. You went up to this 728 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 2: is this is one of the great you know, if 729 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 2: you're in or around this area one of these days, 730 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 2: this is one of the great things you can do 731 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 2: with kids rights take them on this train ride. And 732 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 2: Jim Thorpe, Pennsylvania. Those of you who don't live there 733 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,400 Speaker 2: don't know about that place. I didn't know about it 734 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 2: until I lived out there. It is just one of 735 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 2: the great magical kind of Christmas settings. And you get 736 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 2: a nice snowfall dumped on this weekend that came a 737 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 2: little late. Did you get the snowfall while you were 738 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 2: riding the train, because that would have been magical. 739 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 7: No, But but going through the Lee High Gorge there, 740 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 7: that was very there was it was already covered in 741 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 7: snow from the previous week so that was that was 742 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 7: good enough. 743 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 2: Tell people what this is just if you had not 744 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 2: been before, because this is I commended to people if 745 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 2: they're traveling and they want like a nice vacation getaway spot. 746 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 2: This is great in summer or winter. Absolutely, it's a no. 747 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 2: Jim Thorpe's actually called the Switzerland of America. It's one 748 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 2: of the top destinations in the country for this kind 749 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 2: of this kind of excursion. But yeah, like if you 750 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 2: look at the town, like the architecture is beautiful. There's 751 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 2: a lot of shops right there on Broadway, which is 752 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 2: the main street, and at the very bottom of the 753 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 2: hill because it's it's it's from a movie, this place. 754 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,880 Speaker 2: You go all the way up and you know, the 755 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 2: Molly McGuire, the prison, the whole thing is there. But 756 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 2: at the bottom is a train station and they do 757 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 2: for all seasons, just a classic train ride, and it's 758 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 2: it's just unbelievable. You go right through the Lehigh Gorge 759 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 2: pretty any time of year, really, it really is. I 760 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,919 Speaker 2: just I recommend it if you're traveling or you're looking 761 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 2: for a spot to go visit. Pennsylvania is just a 762 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,840 Speaker 2: beautiful state anyway, but that particular part of the region 763 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 2: is just gorgeous. Jim Thorpe, that's cool. And little Eddie 764 00:38:58,360 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 2: loved it. This is a great time of year to 765 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 2: have a little kid. He did. 766 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 7: He was actually he's never really shy, always good, always social. 767 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,240 Speaker 7: He hid from Santa this time, which was strange. 768 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't like Santa. Oh what the heck, Well, you're 769 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 2: one of two kids growing up, like, there's no middle ground. 770 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 2: I don't think it's very rare with little kids. They 771 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 2: either can't wait to go meet Santa or they are 772 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 2: horrified of Santa and the Easter bunny thing that hold 773 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 2: eel and you say, this is the first year he's 774 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 2: decided I don't want him to do with Santa. 775 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, and not a couple of weeks ago, like we 776 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 7: had a hometown tree lighting and he was just like, hey, yeah, yeah, 777 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,320 Speaker 7: this is what I want for Christmas. Over on Saturday. 778 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 7: For some reason, he's like, eh, they put his head down, 779 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 7: and I'm like, what the hell? 780 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 2: Was he like a skivy looking Santa? Did he not 781 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 2: look his jolly? Some of them are, you know, look 782 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 2: like they look like dan Akroyd and trading places Santa. 783 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 2: You know, like some of them look like they kind 784 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 2: of dragged their suit through the mud or something. Was 785 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 2: this a robust, healthy looking Santa. Yeah? 786 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean the frosty the snowman was a bit 787 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 7: creepy looking before him, but the same Anna looked fine. 788 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 4: You know. 789 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 2: Well, I mean you've seen some of these kids' pictures 790 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 2: right where. I mean some of that, particularly some of 791 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 2: the old ones, but even recent like some of those 792 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 2: Easter bunnies in the Sanda is they like they scare me, 793 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,319 Speaker 2: and I'm an adult, like I wouldn't sit on their laps, you. 794 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 7: Know, Yeah, yeah, no, that makes sense. I yes, I've 795 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 7: seen them and they're funny, and I was hoping to 796 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 7: have that experience with him because I did take them 797 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 7: to see the Philly fanatic who does the like you 798 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 7: sit on his lap and do that. So I was 799 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 7: hoping for that because the first time he met the 800 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 7: fanatic he freaked out. Now he loves them, but so 801 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 7: but yeah, no, he's never been that way with Santa before. 802 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 7: This was the first time. 803 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 2: I just you know, when you think back as a kid, 804 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 2: I don't know if you have memories of that, but 805 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 2: I adored it, the whole Santa thing. I loved it 806 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,800 Speaker 2: as a kid person. Didn't scare me in the least. 807 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 2: I loved it, couldn't wait for it. Just you remember 808 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,399 Speaker 2: going to the you know, the living room, looking under 809 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 2: the tree, couldn't sleep, the whole bit. I have totally 810 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 2: fond memories of that. I don't know if every kid 811 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 2: does or not. Some always seem like they've just been 812 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 2: tortured by it. 813 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 7: Yeah, but that's strange to no. 814 00:40:58,600 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 4: Chris. 815 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 7: My experience is the same as yours. High the build 816 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 7: up to Christmas, like thinking he's watching them. When you 817 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 7: do sit on his lap and you talk to him, 818 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 7: it's like well, you've got to be respectful. You better 819 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 7: be nice, you know. 820 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 2: Beyond your best. Fe Absolutely, it's so much fun. Well 821 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 2: that's good. That is exciting stuff that it is, you know, 822 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 2: this time of year, watching little kids get excited about it, 823 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 2: Christmas parades and saying and all that stuff put you 824 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 2: in a good mood. It's hard not to be in 825 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 2: a good mood when you're around that, even with the 826 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 2: news as it is. Our telephone number is eighty five 827 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,360 Speaker 2: five Stigall if you want to get in here. Axios 828 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 2: headline today Trump's article of faith economy will soar in 829 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 2: twenty six Well, article of faith or data? President Trump 830 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,240 Speaker 2: and his advisors of an almost messianic belief the economy 831 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 2: will take off in the first quarter of next year, 832 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 2: based largely on stimulus from the one big, beautiful bill 833 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:57,719 Speaker 2: he's signed. Stimulus. Stimulus, I bet so like that coach playoffs. 834 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,080 Speaker 2: What do you mean stimulus? Do you mean allowing for 835 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,759 Speaker 2: people to keep more of their own money come tax time? 836 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 2: Is that what you mean by stimulus? See when I 837 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 2: say stimulus, what I think of is printing money and 838 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 2: injecting into the system like we did during COVID. When 839 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,800 Speaker 2: you allow people to keep more of their own money. 840 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 2: I mean, it is a stimulus, but it's a natural 841 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 2: one in that people go out and they earn, and 842 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,800 Speaker 2: they keep more of their earnings and they spend it accordingly. 843 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:27,360 Speaker 2: That is a stimulus, I guess literally, but the implication 844 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 2: is somehow it's artificial. Trump's bullish belief is key to 845 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 2: understanding why he's so reluctant to say there's an affordability crisis. 846 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 2: He calls that that affordability crisis is a hoax and 847 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 2: a con job, advisors say, because the problem didn't start 848 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 2: under him and the economy is growing steadily. Said one 849 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 2: Trump advisor, it's a conundrum discussing messaging with the president. 850 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 2: He doesn't want to say affordability. That's different than not 851 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 2: wanting to talk about it. Both inside and outside the 852 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,400 Speaker 2: White House, Trump advisors are pinning their hopes on projections 853 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 2: by Scott Peasant that americans finances and outlook will improve 854 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 2: markedly during tax season. They're talking about the refund boom. 855 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 2: Working Americans could see as much as two thousand dollars 856 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 2: in returns from the IRS during tax filing season. Capital 857 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:18,799 Speaker 2: expenditures businesses can write these off now retroactive to inauguration Day, 858 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,920 Speaker 2: providing more incentives to hire and raise wages stocks. Most 859 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 2: strategists expect markets, which soared last year, to go even 860 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,319 Speaker 2: higher in twenty six, largely because of AI giants that 861 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:37,240 Speaker 2: have Trump in their pocket hardly backing them. Look, Kevin 862 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,920 Speaker 2: Hassett was out there this weekend talking about the tariffs, 863 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 2: give me number eighty seven and how he's cutting into 864 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 2: the budget deficit. 865 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:49,319 Speaker 12: Listen, but the point is that we've got deficit going 866 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,320 Speaker 12: way way down. So right now it's looking like the 867 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 12: deficit for the SHEERB six one hundred billion dollars lower 868 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 12: than it was last year. 869 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 7: That really helps lower inflation. 870 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,279 Speaker 12: We've got the trade deficit cutting half from last year, 871 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 12: and so all these things are things that should continue 872 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 12: to move us towards the FED target of two percent. 873 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 2: President Trump echoing that yesterday at the White House, give 874 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 2: me number ninety six. 875 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,719 Speaker 6: Without the November fifth election, you would have had a 876 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 6: president that didn't have the courage to use tariffs the 877 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,960 Speaker 6: way they should be used. And because of the tariffs 878 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,280 Speaker 6: we've taken in more than eighteen think of this, eighteen 879 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,320 Speaker 6: trillion dollars has never been anything like it. As an example, 880 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:35,879 Speaker 6: the previous administration, Sleepy Joe Biden took in less than 881 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 6: one trillion in four years. We took in more than 882 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 6: eighteen trillion. 883 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 2: In ten months. 884 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,320 Speaker 6: I'd say that's pretty good, right, I'd say that's very good. 885 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 6: And if you go back, if you go back into history, 886 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,359 Speaker 6: there's never been a country that's taken in more than 887 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 6: three trillion dollars. 888 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 2: You know what I saw gas pat this weekend in 889 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 2: my neck of the woods. Dollars and forty seven cents 890 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 2: a gallum ed. What is it in your neighborhood right now? 891 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,720 Speaker 7: Right now, we're sitting in around two ninety nine. 892 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 2: Two ninety nine, and of course a great deal of 893 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 2: that is Pennsylvania gas tax. You got to remember that's 894 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 2: at least thirty cents of it we know. 895 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,440 Speaker 7: Ye signed by a Republican governor, increased by the Democrats. 896 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:19,440 Speaker 7: It's beautiful. 897 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 2: So when you know those of you who are listening, 898 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 2: you're like, what two forty seven? Remember it depends on 899 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,279 Speaker 2: where you live, and if you are governed by a 900 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 2: bunch of Democrats, that's another matter. But the fact of 901 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,720 Speaker 2: the matter is there are people in Florida and Texas 902 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:35,240 Speaker 2: right now that are in the one eighties a galluton. Okay, 903 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,760 Speaker 2: so gas prices are coming down. There is more disposes. 904 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,879 Speaker 2: I remember not too long ago. I mean a year ago. 905 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 2: Gas was for me where I just paid that two 906 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,360 Speaker 2: forty seven gas was something like three fifteen, three twenty, 907 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,399 Speaker 2: and I remember it getting up as high as I mean, 908 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,239 Speaker 2: look to fill my truck. At one point, I remember 909 00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 2: it was one hundred and fifty dollars a fillip. That's 910 00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 2: what I remember. It was at its worst, and that 911 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,880 Speaker 2: was just a couple of years ago. Go, you know, 912 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 2: this weekend it was seventy five dollars. So do the 913 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,040 Speaker 2: math on that. Every time you fill up right now, 914 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,160 Speaker 2: I'm pocketing seventy five bucks. I don't know about you, 915 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,359 Speaker 2: but if you're not spending seventy five bucks every couple 916 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:18,279 Speaker 2: of weeks, that's appreciable. That matters may not always look 917 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,440 Speaker 2: like that when you're shopping at the grocery store. But 918 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:25,439 Speaker 2: Besson has put his chips in. He said that come 919 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,479 Speaker 2: Q one, Q two, we're going to see some really 920 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 2: explosive growth. Hassets out. These guys are either going to 921 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:34,279 Speaker 2: look like total fools or they know exactly where this 922 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,839 Speaker 2: is headed. And I mean Jerome Powell too late. Jerome Palell, 923 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,320 Speaker 2: remember what he said, they lowered interest rates and said, 924 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:41,880 Speaker 2: we think things are turning around. We think things are 925 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,279 Speaker 2: looking good. That's why we're doing it. Even he who 926 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,920 Speaker 2: hates Trump's guts and Trump can't wait to get rid 927 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 2: of had to come out and say looks pretty good. Also, 928 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 2: President Trump yesterday rolled out and I'll have this for 929 00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,440 Speaker 2: you coming up in just a minute, a promise that 930 00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:03,440 Speaker 2: he's going to deliver on the fraud of election twenty twenty, 931 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 2: and I suppose subsequent elections after that. But you know, 932 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,759 Speaker 2: people that I don't know feel like Pam Bondi and 933 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,920 Speaker 2: DJ aren't doing enough. I've always said there can't be 934 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,239 Speaker 2: anybody more motivated to get to the bottom of a 935 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:19,480 Speaker 2: great deal than Donald Trump himself. A man who was 936 00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 2: nearly murdered, a man whose home was ransacked and raided 937 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:26,200 Speaker 2: and his family's personal effects gone through, and a man who, yeah, 938 00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,480 Speaker 2: I think it's pretty clear now if you don't want 939 00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,440 Speaker 2: to say, was cheated out of the twenty twenty election, 940 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 2: we saw a lot of cheating in twenty twenty. I 941 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 2: don't think he's rested a minute on this, and yesterday 942 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,439 Speaker 2: he kind of alluded to that fact. We'll get into 943 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:43,239 Speaker 2: that coming up. And depending on where you are in 944 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 2: the region. Philadelphia saw quite a bit of snow, anywhere 945 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:50,919 Speaker 2: from six to nine inches roughly in and around southeastern Pennsylvania. 946 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,320 Speaker 2: Beautiful look at Philadelphia as the sun comes up this morning, 947 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:58,759 Speaker 2: some snow blanketing the ground. Telephone number eighty five five St. Gaul. 948 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,080 Speaker 2: If you want to get in here today, I'm going 949 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 2: to Keith in Saint Louis, Keith. I'm glad to have 950 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,640 Speaker 2: you this morning. How are you welcome in? Merry Christmas? 951 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:07,000 Speaker 4: Hi? 952 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:09,359 Speaker 2: What's on your mind? 953 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 6: Sir? 954 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:15,200 Speaker 4: I used to play sandagloss in them all. We described it. 955 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,400 Speaker 4: It's not one of the others. The boat when the 956 00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:22,200 Speaker 4: kid would get like thirty feet from you. Yeah, I 957 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:26,319 Speaker 4: was in like a a saying, a structure with a 958 00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 4: fence around it, and I was on a crown a 959 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,920 Speaker 4: throne like and the sad. The kid would see you 960 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,759 Speaker 4: from a distance, he'd get excited, but when he got 961 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,720 Speaker 4: close to you, he got all freaky and crazy and scared. 962 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,040 Speaker 2: And did they ever come out of it? Or once 963 00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:44,400 Speaker 2: a kid was freaked out, they never. 964 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,880 Speaker 4: Came to the problem would be the problem? Sometimes you 965 00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,440 Speaker 4: put the child up on your knee or something, and 966 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,239 Speaker 4: the child would get kind of nutty and crazy. And 967 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,560 Speaker 4: I've had a hold on to children because I didn't 968 00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,640 Speaker 4: want him to die. They've fallen off my knee and go, 969 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,560 Speaker 4: oh no, how. 970 00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 2: Long did you do it? How long? How many years 971 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:06,040 Speaker 2: did you? Were you? Santa? 972 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,319 Speaker 4: That was ten years ago? I did that. I did 973 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,880 Speaker 4: it in two separate years. 974 00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,440 Speaker 2: Was that enough? Like you just had your fill of 975 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,680 Speaker 2: it or you just did it for the fun of it, or. 976 00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,080 Speaker 4: Well, the problem was you have to be careful with 977 00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,600 Speaker 4: I got in trouble for touching the child in the 978 00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,799 Speaker 4: below the shoulder and see you now. 979 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,960 Speaker 2: That's I didn't even think about that. I bet nowadays 980 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 2: that's something you got to consider every move you make, 981 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,960 Speaker 2: every look everything now right, I'm spelling. In fact, now 982 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,160 Speaker 2: that you say it, I'm kind of surprised they even 983 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:42,360 Speaker 2: allow Santa anymore to visit them all wherever. 984 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, because well, like I was telling you that the 985 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 4: child was, the child would get on your knee and 986 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:50,359 Speaker 4: you hold it. Yeah. 987 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,560 Speaker 2: I mean, if a parent comes and puts them there, right, 988 00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,320 Speaker 2: it is like it's not like you went up and 989 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 2: grabbed them. I mean the parent sits them there. 990 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 4: For heaven sakes, the parent was normally away from you. 991 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:04,279 Speaker 4: I had, I had like two assistants. They bring the 992 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:09,240 Speaker 4: child to me. It brings up Ralphie and the Christmas story. 993 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:10,560 Speaker 7: Ho ho ho. 994 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,239 Speaker 2: Thank you Keith, glad you called Merry Christmas. I have 995 00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,040 Speaker 2: a friend named Tommy Avaloni. Might have to bring him in. 996 00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:22,080 Speaker 2: Tommy did a documentary years ago. Uh and I can't remember. 997 00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,160 Speaker 2: I wish I could remember who was in it. One 998 00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,080 Speaker 2: of the there was a wrestler in it, Fast Eddy. 999 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,840 Speaker 2: He did a whole documentary on guys that play Santa 1000 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:34,880 Speaker 2: year round. Mick Mick, who's the wrestler Mick Foley whoa 1001 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,719 Speaker 2: I think either did Santa or was Santa or but 1002 00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:41,319 Speaker 2: he was featured in that film. But but Tommy did 1003 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,919 Speaker 2: this fascinating documentary on guys whose lives it is all 1004 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,399 Speaker 2: year long, are to to get ready for the big 1005 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,799 Speaker 2: Christmas season where they're Santa, and they like they live 1006 00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:52,919 Speaker 2: it out. It's like there, you know how some guys 1007 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,040 Speaker 2: go to Comic Con or whatever that whole there's a 1008 00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,680 Speaker 2: whole world where guys just do nothing but Santa year round. 1009 00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:58,319 Speaker 2: That's their thing. 1010 00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 7: I learned something new every single day Chris, No idea 1011 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,480 Speaker 7: that they did that, No idea. There was a documentary 1012 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:06,600 Speaker 7: about it. That's amazing. 1013 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,680 Speaker 2: It's true, of course true. Tommy did I think it's 1014 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,080 Speaker 2: called I Am Santa Claus. You can look it up. 1015 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,280 Speaker 2: Give me number ninety seven. Here, PAULI, this is President 1016 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,520 Speaker 2: Trump talking about the election of twenty twenty. He said, 1017 00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,080 Speaker 2: we are sitting on a pile of evidence and we're 1018 00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,960 Speaker 2: getting ready to release it soon. Here we go. That's all. 1019 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,960 Speaker 6: They're good at cheating in elections, very good at cheating. 1020 00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:27,280 Speaker 2: They're professionals. Are cheating. 1021 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,560 Speaker 6: Because we won in twenty sixteen by a lot. The 1022 00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,440 Speaker 6: election was rigged. In twenty twenty, we have all the ammunition, 1023 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,200 Speaker 6: all the stuff, and you'll see it come out. It's 1024 00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:40,080 Speaker 6: coming out in truckloads. And California's election New York also, 1025 00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,520 Speaker 6: but California, more than any other place, is so rigged. 1026 00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:45,200 Speaker 2: It's such a rigged election. 1027 00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:46,920 Speaker 8: You know, we won the Hispanic vote. 1028 00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,799 Speaker 6: So a lot of people say Republican wouldn't win California. 1029 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:51,400 Speaker 8: But I won the Hispanic vote. 1030 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,560 Speaker 2: I won in Miami. Think of that. In Miami, I 1031 00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:55,840 Speaker 2: won the Hispanic vote. 1032 00:51:56,000 --> 00:52:01,480 Speaker 6: Along the Texas border, I won every single or town 1033 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:06,760 Speaker 6: touching the Texas border, and they're eighty five to ninety Hispanic. 1034 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:11,000 Speaker 6: We won the Hispanic vote if the vote in California 1035 00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,920 Speaker 6: was legitimate, which is not. They have thirty eight million ballots. 1036 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,479 Speaker 6: Everything is mail in voting. They mail out thirty eight 1037 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,920 Speaker 6: million ballots and they come in. Where the hell do 1038 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:23,920 Speaker 6: they go and where do they come from? It's a 1039 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,680 Speaker 6: rigged election in California because we would win California. 1040 00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:28,320 Speaker 2: Buy a lot. 1041 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,839 Speaker 8: And again they feel they have the. 1042 00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:31,920 Speaker 2: Advantage with Hispanic. 1043 00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:32,400 Speaker 8: They down't. 1044 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,839 Speaker 2: Okay, So the question is, and I'm really intrigued by this, 1045 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,279 Speaker 2: President Trump says they have a mountain of evidence and 1046 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,000 Speaker 2: they're going to release it. Ed, what do you do 1047 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,600 Speaker 2: with it? If you're the RNC, if you're the Republican Party, 1048 00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,160 Speaker 2: if you're President Trump, and more importantly, does the electric 1049 00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:47,160 Speaker 2: respond to it? 1050 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,040 Speaker 7: Now, you've got to win the local elections to do 1051 00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,040 Speaker 7: something about it, you really do. There's nothing else you 1052 00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,200 Speaker 7: can do. So I don't know. I don't know what 1053 00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:55,799 Speaker 7: the answer to that. 1054 00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,000 Speaker 2: People want evident. Well, here's what you need, paging Pambondi. 1055 00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,480 Speaker 2: You need prosecutions. First of all, they've got evidence of 1056 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:06,920 Speaker 2: criminality in elections. Let's prosecute. Well, it is no secret. 1057 00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,640 Speaker 2: Even though I was bragging on the fact that we 1058 00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,200 Speaker 2: are seeing in certain parts of the country gases now 1059 00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:15,520 Speaker 2: dipped below two dollars a gallon. Some are seeing gasoline 1060 00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:20,479 Speaker 2: in something like the dollar eighty dollars ninety range. Mine 1061 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 2: was as inexpensive over the weekend as I've seen it 1062 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:26,200 Speaker 2: yet to forty seven. So that's a great development. But 1063 00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,800 Speaker 2: the fact of the matter is, in terms of energy costs, 1064 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,000 Speaker 2: home heating costs, there's still a lot to be done there. 1065 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,880 Speaker 2: Daniel Turner our great friend, founder and executive director of 1066 00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:39,040 Speaker 2: Power the Future, Powerthefuture dot com, and Daniel, first of all, 1067 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:39,520 Speaker 2: go to see you. 1068 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,680 Speaker 13: Merry Christmas. It's always great to be on with you. Chris, 1069 00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,000 Speaker 13: thank you for having me this morning. 1070 00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,800 Speaker 2: Of course, the gasoline story is a good story, probably 1071 00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,000 Speaker 2: not getting a lot of attention that's coming down. But 1072 00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:53,880 Speaker 2: the fact of the matter is, and what's so funny 1073 00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,760 Speaker 2: to me, we've gone from in less than a decade, 1074 00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,200 Speaker 2: you know, talk of how we're all warming the planet 1075 00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,560 Speaker 2: to we need more power captain, and it's all because 1076 00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,759 Speaker 2: big tech wants it. Now that big tech and the 1077 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,799 Speaker 2: left who are politically they're typically of the left now 1078 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,319 Speaker 2: that they want lots of energy. It seems that all 1079 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,800 Speaker 2: of the talk of alternative energy has subsumed and now 1080 00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,040 Speaker 2: it's nuclear. Whatever we got, we got a power AI 1081 00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,440 Speaker 2: and we got to power it quick. You notice that 1082 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:21,239 Speaker 2: I have. 1083 00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:25,080 Speaker 13: And it's really concerning, even just taking the AI conversation 1084 00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,440 Speaker 13: off the table, right, what does the future of AI 1085 00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,920 Speaker 13: look like? What does it mean for jobs, the economy, 1086 00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,719 Speaker 13: all of that aside. We know we need this technology, 1087 00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,880 Speaker 13: and we know we're building these data centers very very quickly, 1088 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,400 Speaker 13: and that these data centers consume a tremendous amount of power. 1089 00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,319 Speaker 13: And what's concerning for me is that, for example, in 1090 00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:47,560 Speaker 13: the Great Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, when Microsoft announced with Governor 1091 00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:51,200 Speaker 13: Shapiro many months ago they were going to reopen reactor 1092 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:55,320 Speaker 13: too at Three Mile Island because Microsoft was building data centers, 1093 00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,080 Speaker 13: and they said, we'll repurpose it, we'll retrofit it, and 1094 00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,640 Speaker 13: we'll bring this online. And everyone applaud and said this 1095 00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:04,040 Speaker 13: is great, and I said it is, But wouldn't it 1096 00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,440 Speaker 13: be great if they just opened a reactor to just 1097 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,279 Speaker 13: for the people of Pennsylvania to have cheap electricity. 1098 00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:10,440 Speaker 8: So my concern is. 1099 00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,720 Speaker 13: We're headed towards this kind of level of corporatism where 1100 00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:18,080 Speaker 13: your elected officials look at you and your skyrocket electricity 1101 00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:22,359 Speaker 13: prices up forty percent since Biden during the Biden years, Right, 1102 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,239 Speaker 13: President Trump's trying to bring it down, but it's going 1103 00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,040 Speaker 13: to take a lot. But they look at sky high 1104 00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,160 Speaker 13: electricity prices and say, yeah, that's just too bad. Let's 1105 00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:34,240 Speaker 13: blame climate change or Vladimir Putin. Then Microsoft comes along 1106 00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,839 Speaker 13: and they're like, boom, whatever you guys want, you get it. 1107 00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:40,000 Speaker 13: And that level of corporatism in the energy space has 1108 00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:41,279 Speaker 13: me deeply concerned. 1109 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear that, and I have heard a lot 1110 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:49,040 Speaker 2: of people say that President Trump's push to kind of 1111 00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:55,960 Speaker 2: galvanize a federalization of AI management or monitoring or governance 1112 00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,600 Speaker 2: as opposed to allowing the States to weigh in on 1113 00:55:58,640 --> 00:55:59,920 Speaker 2: it has got a lot of people at odds with 1114 00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:03,120 Speaker 2: people like Bron De Santis, for instance, and others. You know, 1115 00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,560 Speaker 2: And I've heard Trump critics who are actually fans of 1116 00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:09,720 Speaker 2: his say that the solidation of big tech around AI 1117 00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:14,480 Speaker 2: is I don't know if you want to call it monopolistic, 1118 00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,040 Speaker 2: but that seems to be the ongoing worry. I think 1119 00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,640 Speaker 2: President Trump's point of view is, Listen, we're in a race, 1120 00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:23,680 Speaker 2: a massive race, and if we don't win it, we're screwed. 1121 00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:28,000 Speaker 2: So I think his instinct is let's make this as 1122 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:31,000 Speaker 2: little red tape as possible. But in the offing, it 1123 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,000 Speaker 2: raises your concern, right that the consolidation of power is 1124 00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:34,480 Speaker 2: too great. 1125 00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,080 Speaker 13: It is and you know this this is also you 1126 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,279 Speaker 13: know you feel bad because the lots landed at the 1127 00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,799 Speaker 13: feet of President Trump. And so when we look at 1128 00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:46,800 Speaker 13: this race of Ai and say, hey, we have to 1129 00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:50,319 Speaker 13: beat the Chinese. The Chinese are bad. I agree, they 1130 00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,799 Speaker 13: will use AI for bad I agree. So we have 1131 00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:54,759 Speaker 13: to beat them. But you know, we do this in 1132 00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:56,720 Speaker 13: a lot of areas. We do this in all across 1133 00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,000 Speaker 13: South America, where we say, look, we have to have 1134 00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:03,160 Speaker 13: oil in venezuel American oil interests in Venezuela. 1135 00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:04,200 Speaker 8: Because if we don't do it, the Chinese. 1136 00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,359 Speaker 13: Hey, we have to have a military off the coast 1137 00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,279 Speaker 13: of Japan because if we don't, the Chinese will. And 1138 00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:13,240 Speaker 13: so it's frustrating to look at thirty years of lousy 1139 00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:17,360 Speaker 13: China policy. I mean, America built communist China, right, we 1140 00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,520 Speaker 13: traded with them, We gave the most favored nation status 1141 00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,720 Speaker 13: going back from the early nineties with Bill Clinton, and 1142 00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,760 Speaker 13: now we've created our number one enemy, and now our 1143 00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:30,720 Speaker 13: policies seem to be enacted for the sole purpose of 1144 00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:34,840 Speaker 13: containing communism and communist China. And I just find that 1145 00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:39,360 Speaker 13: really frustrating, knowing that since I was in high school, right, 1146 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,480 Speaker 13: we've been doing things now to stop China from doing it. 1147 00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:47,240 Speaker 13: I would rather, like all evil regimes, including Islamic terrorism, 1148 00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,520 Speaker 13: I'd rather just eradicate them completely. I'd rather just bankrupt 1149 00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:52,360 Speaker 13: in the case of China, just bankrupt them. 1150 00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:52,840 Speaker 8: You know. 1151 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,800 Speaker 13: Yes, you want your flat screens and your cheap Nike sneakers. 1152 00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,680 Speaker 13: I'd rather you can live without them, right, I'd rather 1153 00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,400 Speaker 13: we just not deal with this country and drive them 1154 00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:06,680 Speaker 13: back into obscurity, rather than have to create policies that 1155 00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:10,080 Speaker 13: impact American people for the sole purpose of we have 1156 00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:11,480 Speaker 13: to beat the Chinese at it. 1157 00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:12,720 Speaker 8: It's just driving me crazy. 1158 00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:17,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I hear you. And we operate under the 1159 00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,240 Speaker 2: assumption that we must now do business with them. And 1160 00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,680 Speaker 2: I do think, you know, the tariff talk is an 1161 00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,240 Speaker 2: interesting one because I do think President Trump is trying 1162 00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:30,520 Speaker 2: to onshore work fast, but you know, on shoring companies 1163 00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:34,960 Speaker 2: building factories that doesn't happen fast. You know, again he's 1164 00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,200 Speaker 2: trying to turn a battleship on a dime here and 1165 00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:40,080 Speaker 2: that's not going to happen. But we'll see economically what happens. 1166 00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,520 Speaker 2: There's a piece here at the Federalist and you're quoted 1167 00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:46,080 Speaker 2: in it a data centers are wreaking havoc on local communities. 1168 00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,880 Speaker 2: What specifically does that mean? In fact, I know in 1169 00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,640 Speaker 2: my backyard there are two different data centers. And one 1170 00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:54,640 Speaker 2: of the guys who's helping build it said to me 1171 00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,000 Speaker 2: something that you've said on this show repeatedly. He said, Man, 1172 00:58:58,360 --> 00:58:59,880 Speaker 2: I'm telling you you want to put your money into 1173 00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:04,000 Speaker 2: put it into small nuclear reactors and nuclear power facilities, 1174 00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,120 Speaker 2: because they're going to need every bit of that and 1175 00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,000 Speaker 2: then some to power these things as fast as we're 1176 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:08,520 Speaker 2: building them. 1177 00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:14,360 Speaker 13: Absolutely, and I should almost think it's a requirement, a 1178 00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:18,000 Speaker 13: prerequisite for your construction permits is that you are attaching 1179 00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,680 Speaker 13: these things at the hip to some sort of modular 1180 00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:25,160 Speaker 13: nuclear reactor or small reactor, or you're building a coal 1181 00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:28,720 Speaker 13: or natural gas plant alongside of it. Because what I 1182 00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,240 Speaker 13: mean by that article at the Federalists, and thank you 1183 00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:34,920 Speaker 13: very much for quoting it, we're putting these things in 1184 00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,080 Speaker 13: kind of suburbia and more towards rural America. 1185 00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,360 Speaker 8: Because these data centers are several million. 1186 00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:43,120 Speaker 13: Square feet, they're building them where land is cheap, but 1187 00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:47,160 Speaker 13: also close enough to the urban centers you know that 1188 00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:51,000 Speaker 13: are using all this technology that are online. In the 1189 00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,680 Speaker 13: case of the Commonwealth of Virginia where I live, you know, 1190 00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,480 Speaker 13: I'm about two hours outside of DC, and when I 1191 00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,240 Speaker 13: drive to DC, I pass over a third of the 1192 00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:03,600 Speaker 13: nations that centers. They're all in the Northern Virginia area. 1193 01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,680 Speaker 13: And what it means is that, yes, the footprint of 1194 01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,720 Speaker 13: land is a problem, but the strain on the grid 1195 01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,240 Speaker 13: is a huge problem. And now it's just a part 1196 01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:14,120 Speaker 13: of life to say, hey, look, we built all these 1197 01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:17,800 Speaker 13: data centers, our electricity rates are up twenty five, thirty 1198 01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:22,760 Speaker 13: forty percent. When we start having power problems, they get 1199 01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:27,240 Speaker 13: priority now over regular homes. There's also water issues, which 1200 01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:29,840 Speaker 13: we won't hardly ever talk about because these things are 1201 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:34,120 Speaker 13: enormous consumers of water. And so again we have these 1202 01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:37,440 Speaker 13: elected officials that ribbon cutting ceremonies and they want to 1203 01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:40,360 Speaker 13: stand shoulder to shoulder with Mark Zuckerberg and cut the 1204 01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,880 Speaker 13: ribbon and be like I brought this here and look 1205 01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,439 Speaker 13: at me bring in jobs to the community. But when 1206 01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:48,400 Speaker 13: this thing is up and running, your average data center 1207 01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:51,360 Speaker 13: consumes the equivalent of water and electricity of one hundred 1208 01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:55,240 Speaker 13: thousand homes. So ask yourself, if in your little town 1209 01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:57,560 Speaker 13: they're building a data center, would you let them build 1210 01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:01,000 Speaker 13: one hundred thousand homes without any plan for more water 1211 01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:04,080 Speaker 13: or more power. No, But we do this with data centers, 1212 01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:07,880 Speaker 13: and we build dozens of them, it seems every couple of. 1213 01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,200 Speaker 8: Months, and so that's my concern going forward. 1214 01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:14,440 Speaker 2: I'm literally near me watching two of them being built 1215 01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:17,280 Speaker 2: across the highway from one another. Meta came in to 1216 01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:21,160 Speaker 2: do one, Google's doing one. They're literally across a highway 1217 01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:24,360 Speaker 2: expanse from one another on acres and acres of land. 1218 01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:26,600 Speaker 2: And I have no idea, as you say, what that 1219 01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:30,120 Speaker 2: means for power draw, but it's huge, and so you 1220 01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:32,600 Speaker 2: would say, elected officials and voters really need to understand 1221 01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:35,320 Speaker 2: when these things pop up, it's not the happy time 1222 01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,560 Speaker 2: story that everybody gets a job and commerce is coming 1223 01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:40,680 Speaker 2: into the community. It's actually a real draw. Would you 1224 01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:41,640 Speaker 2: call it a net negative? 1225 01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:46,320 Speaker 13: You know, for me as a landowner, as a farmer 1226 01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,600 Speaker 13: in rural Virginia. I don't see what the upside has been. 1227 01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,800 Speaker 13: And I like our current governor and he's led this charge. 1228 01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:56,400 Speaker 13: But a very humble conversation with Governor Younkin is to say, 1229 01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,600 Speaker 13: you talk about how many of these we've built, and okay, 1230 01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,800 Speaker 13: maybe we've had some construction jobs, and yes that is good, 1231 01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,840 Speaker 13: But you talk about the tax revenue. We're bringing in 1232 01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:09,520 Speaker 13: so much tax revenue. My taxes haven't gone down, right, 1233 01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:13,440 Speaker 13: So where's the tax revenue? It just goes to the government. 1234 01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:16,960 Speaker 13: It goes to the state somehow. My electricity bill is 1235 01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:20,680 Speaker 13: up thirty five forty percent. My water every ask any 1236 01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:23,840 Speaker 13: farmer in our area about your ponds, about your creeks. 1237 01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:27,880 Speaker 13: Our water tables are down drastically in the last couple 1238 01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:28,360 Speaker 13: of years. 1239 01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,880 Speaker 8: And you say, so where do I benefit? 1240 01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:35,120 Speaker 13: Like, how has my life been made better because I'm 1241 01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:37,840 Speaker 13: building this? And quite frankly, if my life isn't better, 1242 01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,200 Speaker 13: then why the hell are we doing it? And I 1243 01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:42,640 Speaker 13: feel like that's just not data centers, but it's everything. 1244 01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,760 Speaker 13: Every time our elected officials want the ribbon cutting and 1245 01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:49,840 Speaker 13: they want the grandiose ceremony of expansion, how has it 1246 01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:50,720 Speaker 13: been better? 1247 01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:50,920 Speaker 2: Right? 1248 01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,840 Speaker 13: The globalists tried this every time they said, we're, you know, 1249 01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:56,840 Speaker 13: building this new facility in Mexico. 1250 01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:58,480 Speaker 8: How has this made my life better? 1251 01:02:58,560 --> 01:02:58,680 Speaker 2: Right? 1252 01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,680 Speaker 13: How is globalism going to China? How has the rise 1253 01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:03,240 Speaker 13: of China made my life better? 1254 01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:04,760 Speaker 8: Cheap crap? Right? 1255 01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:08,040 Speaker 13: I mean, I guess you could say that somehow it's 1256 01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:11,360 Speaker 13: more affordable, But all we talk about these days is 1257 01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:14,600 Speaker 13: the affordability crisis. So so, how has my life been 1258 01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:16,960 Speaker 13: so much better from these data centers going up? 1259 01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:19,320 Speaker 8: No one can point to it. Yeah, you can use 1260 01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:23,680 Speaker 8: your phone in Google. Cool crap. Yeah, Okay, you know 1261 01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:24,760 Speaker 8: you have to go. 1262 01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:27,480 Speaker 2: It's just like thirty seconds, Daniel, because you know I 1263 01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:31,040 Speaker 2: read there are many people I think who feel the 1264 01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:33,560 Speaker 2: way you do. And with President Trump in for the 1265 01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:35,120 Speaker 2: year that he's been in, you know, there's still a 1266 01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:38,720 Speaker 2: Republican Congress you can't ignore. But you know, I hear 1267 01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:42,360 Speaker 2: that there's the magabase splintering, they're dissatisfied or what have you? 1268 01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:44,600 Speaker 2: You are aware with just like twenty seconds. I'm sorry 1269 01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:45,480 Speaker 2: to make you summarize like that. 1270 01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:49,960 Speaker 13: Oh, I'm pleased to support of the president. I haven't 1271 01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:54,480 Speaker 13: deviated an announce but these are larger philosophical conversations that 1272 01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:56,479 Speaker 13: have to happen, and like I said, I feel bad 1273 01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:58,640 Speaker 13: that all of this has landed at the feet of 1274 01:03:58,680 --> 01:03:59,240 Speaker 13: Donald Trump. 1275 01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:01,160 Speaker 8: You go back to that Oprah Winfrey and for he 1276 01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,920 Speaker 8: did in the eighties. He knew that we were headed 1277 01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,000 Speaker 8: in a bad direction. It just took him thirty years 1278 01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:07,120 Speaker 8: to get power to fix it. 1279 01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,640 Speaker 2: Daniel, thank you, Merry Christmas to you. I always appreciate 1280 01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:15,640 Speaker 2: your candor wit a minute, rand Paul said something interesting 1281 01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:19,080 Speaker 2: this weekend in number ninety one, if you would please 1282 01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,120 Speaker 2: Paul on Meet the Press. 1283 01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:24,080 Speaker 14: You know it's his escalation on both sides. You know 1284 01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:26,280 Speaker 14: both sides are doing it, and so it's one side 1285 01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:27,920 Speaker 14: going to sit quietly and not do it. 1286 01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:29,800 Speaker 8: You can argue who started it. 1287 01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:31,880 Speaker 2: But I do think this, and this is. 1288 01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:35,760 Speaker 14: On the negative aspect of both parties doing this. I 1289 01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,400 Speaker 14: think that it's going to leave to more civil tension 1290 01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:41,720 Speaker 14: and possibly more violence in our country. Because think about it, 1291 01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:46,000 Speaker 14: if thirty five percent of Texas is Democrat, solidly Democrat, 1292 01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:49,920 Speaker 14: and they have zero representation or like in my state, 1293 01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:52,560 Speaker 14: we're a very Republican state, but we have one Democrat 1294 01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:55,720 Speaker 14: area in Louisville, and we have a Democrat congressman. We 1295 01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,880 Speaker 14: can carve up Louisville and get rid of that one congressman. 1296 01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:01,120 Speaker 14: But how does that make Democrats feel? 1297 01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:02,720 Speaker 2: I think it makes them feel. 1298 01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:05,200 Speaker 14: Like they're not represented, and so I don't know. I 1299 01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:07,760 Speaker 14: think it's bad. But it's really not one party the 1300 01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,160 Speaker 14: other doing it. It's both parties have been doing it 1301 01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:11,520 Speaker 14: since the beginning of time. 1302 01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:24,760 Speaker 2: He sighed. Rand Paul is concerned about the feelings of Democrats. 1303 01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:30,360 Speaker 2: Is that what I just heard? Yes, he's correct. Democrats 1304 01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:33,200 Speaker 2: have been doing it for decades. And you know what 1305 01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:37,280 Speaker 2: it's led to. It's led to people who don't want 1306 01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:42,440 Speaker 2: to live under government tyranny and live under government dictatorships 1307 01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:45,840 Speaker 2: led by Democrats and high taxes and high crime and 1308 01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,480 Speaker 2: the like. It's led to people like me packing their 1309 01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:51,760 Speaker 2: things and getting the hell out and moving to places 1310 01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:55,840 Speaker 2: that aren't governed that way you have, you know, God 1311 01:05:55,840 --> 01:06:00,800 Speaker 2: bless America. That's the thing. If Democrats feel so miserable 1312 01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:04,160 Speaker 2: and misrepresented in Texas, pack your things and go move 1313 01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:07,240 Speaker 2: to the Northeast. And you say, well, I can't do that, 1314 01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:11,160 Speaker 2: I can't uproot my life. I like my life here, Well, 1315 01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,080 Speaker 2: then maybe you ought to talk to yourself about why 1316 01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:15,760 Speaker 2: it is you like your life there. It ain't Democrat 1317 01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:19,480 Speaker 2: policies right. I like it safe here, I like it 1318 01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:23,840 Speaker 2: cheap here. Oh you do. Who's running things? Not the 1319 01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:27,960 Speaker 2: Democrats you vote for. The Democrats you vote for are 1320 01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:30,480 Speaker 2: running the place that you left. You now live in 1321 01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:34,560 Speaker 2: Florida or Texas or Kentucky or Tennessee. You still want 1322 01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:37,520 Speaker 2: to keep voting Democrat though? Do you look around. You 1323 01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:40,640 Speaker 2: moved here because it was cheaper and safer and a 1324 01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:43,280 Speaker 2: better place to raise a family. And now Ran Paul 1325 01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:47,240 Speaker 2: says we've got to consider their unhappiness because they don't 1326 01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,360 Speaker 2: get to vote Democrat. I would simply say, if you're 1327 01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:53,840 Speaker 2: unhappy in a Republican run state, pack your things and 1328 01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:58,040 Speaker 2: go move to the beautiful blue state of Connecticut. Too expensive. 1329 01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:03,520 Speaker 2: Well that's Democrats. It's not like you don't have the 1330 01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:07,760 Speaker 2: freedom to go congregate with other Democrats. Senator Paul, what 1331 01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:10,000 Speaker 2: is this business? They're going to be unhappy if they 1332 01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,560 Speaker 2: don't have Democrat representation. I think they'll be happy become 1333 01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:17,320 Speaker 2: tax time and that their family's not dead. Wit in 1334 01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:19,880 Speaker 2: a minute. You heard me earlier this year, I hope, 1335 01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:23,760 Speaker 2: talking about our partnership with Prison Fellowship, the non for 1336 01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:28,360 Speaker 2: profit Christian organization that helps kids who have incarcerated parents 1337 01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:32,080 Speaker 2: enjoy a little fresh air and fun out in the 1338 01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:35,880 Speaker 2: open outdoors during summer camp. Well, they do great work 1339 01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:38,760 Speaker 2: at Christmas time too, and we're proud to partner with 1340 01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:42,440 Speaker 2: them again in what they call their Angel Tree Christmas Campaign. 1341 01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:46,200 Speaker 2: You know, there are thousands of kids all over the country, 1342 01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:49,000 Speaker 2: through no fault of their own, who see one or 1343 01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:51,760 Speaker 2: maybe even both of their parents incarcerated this time of year. 1344 01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:54,920 Speaker 2: And what a what a tough thing that is. You know, 1345 01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:58,800 Speaker 2: a child should be enjoying the Christmas season, and with 1346 01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:01,880 Speaker 2: something that heavy in their home, it's often difficult to do. 1347 01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:04,840 Speaker 2: What I love about Prison Fellowship is and what is 1348 01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:07,760 Speaker 2: so cool about what Angel Tree does. They take a 1349 01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:10,280 Speaker 2: thirty dollars donation that you give and they can turn 1350 01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:13,000 Speaker 2: that into a gift for a young person who may 1351 01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,640 Speaker 2: be struggling this Christmas. 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We'll glad to have 1402 01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:54,960 Speaker 2: you here on the answer and our telephone number is 1403 01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:56,720 Speaker 2: eight five fives to goall if you want to get 1404 01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:59,040 Speaker 2: in here today with one week to go. Thank you, 1405 01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:02,400 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Probably a little over week ten 1406 01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:04,439 Speaker 2: days technically, but I really would love to get this 1407 01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:06,960 Speaker 2: thing wrapped up this week. I got to tell you 1408 01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:09,240 Speaker 2: your generosity over the weekend came pouring in, and I 1409 01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:12,439 Speaker 2: thank you so much. We're inching ever closer. Our Angel 1410 01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:17,120 Speaker 2: Tree Christmas program going so well. The excitement of waking 1411 01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:19,800 Speaker 2: up early to find presents under the tree. Look, there 1412 01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:22,880 Speaker 2: are kids in this country, for various reasons, that may 1413 01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:26,639 Speaker 2: not experience that without your help. Chief among reasons, why 1414 01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:31,000 Speaker 2: are kids who have a parent incarcerated? And this is 1415 01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:32,120 Speaker 2: one of those things that I know a lot of 1416 01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:34,880 Speaker 2: people think, well, just to go, oh, look, prisoners, they 1417 01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:38,280 Speaker 2: got to serve their time. They're being punished for something 1418 01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:41,440 Speaker 2: they did. That's true, but their kids don't deserve punishment, 1419 01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:43,920 Speaker 2: and their kids don't know any different. And a lot 1420 01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:45,680 Speaker 2: of kids that wake up in this country without a 1421 01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:47,960 Speaker 2: parent at Christmas time and wonder if their parents are 1422 01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:50,599 Speaker 2: even thinking of them. This is how you can get involved, 1423 01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:53,120 Speaker 2: and this is how you can introduce a ministry and 1424 01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:55,120 Speaker 2: the love of Jesus into their heart this time of year. 1425 01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:57,599 Speaker 2: Do you know that the prison fellowship people for thirty 1426 01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:59,719 Speaker 2: dollars what they can do. They can take your gift 1427 01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:02,120 Speaker 2: of thirty bucks. That's all it takes to get a 1428 01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:04,519 Speaker 2: gift in the hand of a kid with one of 1429 01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:07,680 Speaker 2: these incarcerated parents and a note from one of these 1430 01:12:07,720 --> 01:12:10,559 Speaker 2: parents letting them know, yeah, mom or dad is thinking 1431 01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:14,400 Speaker 2: of you. We love you, haven't forgotten you that. You 1432 01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:16,240 Speaker 2: know how much that means to a child who may 1433 01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:18,519 Speaker 2: be wondering about that. But most of all, they also 1434 01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:20,720 Speaker 2: not not just get the gift in that note from 1435 01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:24,479 Speaker 2: a parent, they also get the Bible. The prison pedalship 1436 01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:27,759 Speaker 2: folks give them the gift of Scripture. What a wonderful 1437 01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:30,519 Speaker 2: thing you can do and for thirty dollars. That's all 1438 01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:34,479 Speaker 2: it takes. Look, we have a week left and we're 1439 01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:37,479 Speaker 2: trying to reach twenty six hundred kids. We're down to 1440 01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:40,320 Speaker 2: eight hundred and sixty left, so we're well more than 1441 01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:42,400 Speaker 2: halfway there, over sixty percent there now, So can you 1442 01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:44,920 Speaker 2: help if you can? I hope that you will. A 1443 01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:46,439 Speaker 2: couple ways to do it. If you want a text 1444 01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:48,920 Speaker 2: today my name Chris to nine four eight seven eight. 1445 01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:53,639 Speaker 2: Text my name Chris. Chris. Text Chris to nine four 1446 01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:55,720 Speaker 2: eight seven eight will send you a link. Or you 1447 01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:57,680 Speaker 2: can go to Chrisstigall dot com and click on the 1448 01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:00,559 Speaker 2: link there at the top of the website, or there's 1449 01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:03,320 Speaker 2: a link just below, but it's right there on the 1450 01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:05,760 Speaker 2: front page of Christigall dot com. I hope you can help, 1451 01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:10,240 Speaker 2: love to get us done by Friday. All right, So 1452 01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:13,360 Speaker 2: again that's Chris Stigall dot com. You can call a 1453 01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:14,880 Speaker 2: little later too if you'd like it. Eight at eight 1454 01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:18,600 Speaker 2: two zero six twenty seven ninety four. All right, there is. 1455 01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:21,839 Speaker 2: There's a great deal that happened, of course over the weekend. 1456 01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:23,280 Speaker 2: We covered it off the top of the show. I 1457 01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:25,280 Speaker 2: want to go to Australia first and bring in our 1458 01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:27,679 Speaker 2: friend Victoria Coach. She's not in Australia, but she certainly 1459 01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:31,920 Speaker 2: has plenty to say about this. Victoria has done just 1460 01:13:32,479 --> 01:13:35,639 Speaker 2: wonderful and important and impressive work throughout her career. She's 1461 01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:39,280 Speaker 2: now with the Heritage Foundation in national security and foreign policy. 1462 01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:41,400 Speaker 2: She served in that role in the Trump administration in 1463 01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:43,559 Speaker 2: the first and she joins us this morning. Victoria. Merry 1464 01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:45,040 Speaker 2: Christmas to you, and thanks for your time. 1465 01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:48,960 Speaker 3: Merry Christmas, Chris, and thanks for doing what you're doing 1466 01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:50,640 Speaker 3: with the Angel Tree Group. I'm going to go on 1467 01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:52,160 Speaker 3: and donate right after this hit. 1468 01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:55,160 Speaker 2: Oh thank you, thank you so much. I appreciate it. 1469 01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:57,120 Speaker 2: I know they do. They do wonderful work. That's sweet 1470 01:13:57,160 --> 01:14:00,559 Speaker 2: of you. This situation in Australia, I don't know what 1471 01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:02,479 Speaker 2: to add to it other than it does look to 1472 01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:04,960 Speaker 2: be obviously a very specific terrorist attack. And I had 1473 01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:09,360 Speaker 2: a caller earlier say, this is what a lack of 1474 01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:14,880 Speaker 2: assimilation an immigration policy and the insane gun policy gets you. 1475 01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:16,840 Speaker 2: That's a recipe for disaster in Australia. How do you 1476 01:14:16,880 --> 01:14:18,120 Speaker 2: assess what happened there? 1477 01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:19,800 Speaker 4: Now? 1478 01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:22,280 Speaker 3: This really is a witch's brew of bad things that 1479 01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:24,760 Speaker 3: have happened. And as we learn more about the father 1480 01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:26,720 Speaker 3: and son and just think. Let that sink in for 1481 01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:29,400 Speaker 3: a minute, Chris, A father and son decided on the 1482 01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:31,880 Speaker 3: first day of Hanukkah this is what they were going 1483 01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:34,639 Speaker 3: to do, and there was no cooler head to prevail. 1484 01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:36,960 Speaker 3: But it sounds to me from their ages that the 1485 01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:39,599 Speaker 3: father came in shortly after nine to eleven when there 1486 01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:42,519 Speaker 3: were a lot of folks bending over backwards to make 1487 01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:46,280 Speaker 3: sure that no Muslims were inconvenienced after that massive terrorist 1488 01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:49,240 Speaker 3: attack on the United States, and then he had his 1489 01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:54,200 Speaker 3: son in Australia. The son is fully Australian citizen, and 1490 01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:57,120 Speaker 3: then the son was in touch with Isis folk in 1491 01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:00,920 Speaker 3: twenty eighteen twenty nineteen timeframe. Nothing was done, They knew 1492 01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:03,920 Speaker 3: they had these guns, nothing was done, and then you 1493 01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:06,920 Speaker 3: have this horrific shooting. Because for the last two years, 1494 01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:11,240 Speaker 3: since October seventh, it has been a completely permissive atmosphere 1495 01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:15,840 Speaker 3: in Australia for anti Semites. You've had massive demonstrations by 1496 01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:19,200 Speaker 3: the Sydney Opera House, that symbol of freedom and culture, 1497 01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:23,920 Speaker 3: screaming to f the Jews, screaming get them back in ovens, 1498 01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:27,560 Speaker 3: screaming for the Antifada, for the globalization of the Antevada, 1499 01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:30,680 Speaker 3: which is what we're certainly seeing here. And so if 1500 01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:33,519 Speaker 3: you permit this stuff, if you don't crack down on it, 1501 01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:36,080 Speaker 3: if you don't say it's unacceptable, and you don't take 1502 01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:40,600 Speaker 3: really very strong measures to protect your Jewish community in 1503 01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:43,080 Speaker 3: a way, you can say this is pretty much inevitable. 1504 01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:48,599 Speaker 2: Wow, And then you know, one wonders as well when 1505 01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:52,000 Speaker 2: you're talking about assimilation and you're talking about foreign policy. 1506 01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:55,360 Speaker 2: We see in Paris right now they've canceled as I 1507 01:15:55,400 --> 01:16:00,200 Speaker 2: understand that their New Year's Eve celebration they traditionally have, 1508 01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:04,639 Speaker 2: and they've canceled it because they think violence, there's going 1509 01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:08,320 Speaker 2: to be violence. They're too nervous about pending violence. Is 1510 01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:09,799 Speaker 2: that what you're hearing is? 1511 01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:11,559 Speaker 1: Yes, it's all across Europe. 1512 01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:15,200 Speaker 3: We've had incidents in Germany at Christmas markets, Paris for 1513 01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:20,800 Speaker 3: New Year's Eve, attack on Hanukkah celebration in Belgium. So 1514 01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:23,880 Speaker 3: these are all the countries though Chris that have bent 1515 01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:28,519 Speaker 3: over backwards to accommodate the Palestinians since October seventh. They've 1516 01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:33,360 Speaker 3: rewarded them by recognizing some non existent Palestinian state at 1517 01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:36,800 Speaker 3: the United Nations, which is essentially saying the tactics that 1518 01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:39,480 Speaker 3: you've used on October seventh are legitimate. 1519 01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:40,439 Speaker 1: They will work for you. 1520 01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:44,599 Speaker 3: They will get you to your stated political end, which 1521 01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:46,960 Speaker 3: is some kind of state in the area that is 1522 01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:50,120 Speaker 3: now Israel. So that's what this gets you. It doesn't 1523 01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:52,599 Speaker 3: get you peace, you're not appeasing them. What it gets 1524 01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:55,040 Speaker 3: you are more attacks. Because this has nothing to do 1525 01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:57,840 Speaker 3: with the Palestinians. This has to do with hating the West, 1526 01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:01,560 Speaker 3: hating Jews first and foremost. Yes, who's next the Christians? 1527 01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:03,080 Speaker 8: Yes? 1528 01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:06,760 Speaker 2: And meanwhile in Syria, I know President Trump addressed this. 1529 01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:09,960 Speaker 2: There were three National guardsmen I believe or not well 1530 01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:13,040 Speaker 2: on National Guard, but they were serving from an Iowa 1531 01:17:13,160 --> 01:17:18,240 Speaker 2: Guard unit I believe. In Syria. What happened there this weekend, Yes, this. 1532 01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:21,599 Speaker 3: Was really an illustration of why President Trump has rightly 1533 01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:24,800 Speaker 3: been cautious about our mission in Sirius, Syria from the 1534 01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:28,000 Speaker 3: get go. His feeling has been that, you know, given 1535 01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:32,559 Speaker 3: the military support we've provided with Israel, this is essentially 1536 01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:35,320 Speaker 3: their backyard. They know it better than we, and they 1537 01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:37,559 Speaker 3: can take care of it. And Israel has certainly shown 1538 01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:40,519 Speaker 3: in the last year that they're fully capable of doing that, 1539 01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:44,599 Speaker 3: of targeting the ISIS folks, the al Qaeda folks, Jabadan Neusra. 1540 01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:48,639 Speaker 3: There's a whole alphabet suit of bad guys in southern 1541 01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:51,200 Speaker 3: Syria that they can get after. Now, you know, the 1542 01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:54,800 Speaker 3: deployment of a thousand of our guys has been going 1543 01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:58,160 Speaker 3: on now for I believe close to fifteen years, if 1544 01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:01,280 Speaker 3: not longer, and Mike can certain about them has always 1545 01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:03,880 Speaker 3: been that they're big enough to be a target, but 1546 01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:07,519 Speaker 3: not enough to really defend themselves, making us reliant on 1547 01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:11,799 Speaker 3: local partners, some of whom have been strong counter terrorism partners, 1548 01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:16,519 Speaker 3: have other questionable aspects to their histories. I think we 1549 01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:20,120 Speaker 3: need a clearly stated policy on Syria and a clearly 1550 01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:23,280 Speaker 3: stated mission for these these soldiers if we're going to 1551 01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:25,280 Speaker 3: leave them there and then make sure that they can 1552 01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:26,160 Speaker 3: protect themselves. 1553 01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:30,680 Speaker 2: And then well, a couple of things I want to 1554 01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:35,519 Speaker 2: get to help me with Venezuela. The seizure of this 1555 01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:38,000 Speaker 2: oil tanker, that's extraordinary. I don't know that I can 1556 01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:41,120 Speaker 2: remember ever something like that happening. What is President Trump's 1557 01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:43,720 Speaker 2: end game? Do you believe with Venezuela? What's going on there? 1558 01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:45,519 Speaker 2: What drives it? And where do you think this goes? 1559 01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:49,640 Speaker 3: No, it's why of the sanctions we have on Venezuela 1560 01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:53,160 Speaker 3: is so important because this is a legal act under 1561 01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:55,599 Speaker 3: our sanctions regime, and we actually did it a couple 1562 01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:59,799 Speaker 3: of times during the first Trump term against Iranian tankers. 1563 01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:00,599 Speaker 8: And what we. 1564 01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:03,760 Speaker 3: Did was we sold those cargoes and put the proceeds 1565 01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:06,800 Speaker 3: into an ESCRO fund for the Iranian people, so that 1566 01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:09,760 Speaker 3: can be done so that this money then is at 1567 01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:14,040 Speaker 3: would be at the service of a legitimate Venezuela government 1568 01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:16,679 Speaker 3: if we do get rid of Maduro. And I think 1569 01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:21,680 Speaker 3: this is really the strongest tool the president can deploy here. 1570 01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:23,960 Speaker 3: It's not an act of war by any stretch of 1571 01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:27,200 Speaker 3: the imagination. I've consulted with our legal eagles at Heritage 1572 01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:29,400 Speaker 3: and they all to a man come out and say, no, 1573 01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:33,400 Speaker 3: it's not. This is legitimate under our sanctions regime. And 1574 01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:36,559 Speaker 3: it then provides a source of Rather than letting Maduro 1575 01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:41,240 Speaker 3: exploit those proceeds, you're saving those for the Venezuelan people 1576 01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:44,280 Speaker 3: and their legitimate government which they tried to elect a 1577 01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:47,040 Speaker 3: year ago and it was stolen by Maduro. So I 1578 01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:51,080 Speaker 3: saw some very interesting things. There's a fantastic X feed 1579 01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:54,400 Speaker 3: called tanker Trackers. If you're an oil geek like I am, 1580 01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:56,519 Speaker 3: and you like to watch where all these ships are 1581 01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:59,479 Speaker 3: running around the world. They reported this morning that we're 1582 01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:02,760 Speaker 3: starting to I see some tankers on route to Venezuela 1583 01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:05,560 Speaker 3: from countries like India and China who probably shouldn't be 1584 01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:08,000 Speaker 3: buying a lot of Venezuela and oil. They're seeing those 1585 01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:11,280 Speaker 3: turn around and maybe head to the Middle East for cargoes. 1586 01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:15,880 Speaker 3: We would also happily sell them United States product as 1587 01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:18,960 Speaker 3: convenient for them. But that's really the way you get 1588 01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:21,960 Speaker 3: rid of Maduro is you completely starve him funds. 1589 01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:25,400 Speaker 2: Interesting, so that's what he's trying to do, is effectively 1590 01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:28,719 Speaker 2: to starve him out, I think. 1591 01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:28,840 Speaker 4: So. 1592 01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:31,680 Speaker 3: I mean, obviously, we have this massive military build up 1593 01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:34,280 Speaker 3: in the Caribbean, biggest sense of rock, so that's kind 1594 01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:38,759 Speaker 3: of sobering, and enormous amounts of firepower there. So Madua 1595 01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:41,160 Speaker 3: knows that we're serious. But at the same time, the 1596 01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:45,360 Speaker 3: president always prefers to handle these things through non violent means, 1597 01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:48,519 Speaker 3: and so he's creating another avenue here for that to happen. 1598 01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:51,559 Speaker 2: No reason to believe ultimately that it's a boots on 1599 01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:53,240 Speaker 2: the ground thing, right, although I think he's kind of 1600 01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:55,679 Speaker 2: flirted with that I mean verbally, but I don't would 1601 01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:56,400 Speaker 2: he actually do it. 1602 01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:00,000 Speaker 1: I don't know that we would need them. 1603 01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:02,720 Speaker 3: And what I've heard that if there are strikes, they 1604 01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:06,760 Speaker 3: would be on the narco terrorists, on their facilities and 1605 01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:09,680 Speaker 3: the places that are producing the drugs, and then the 1606 01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:14,240 Speaker 3: militants that are moving them around, and then the means 1607 01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:16,880 Speaker 3: both on the ground and on the sea that they 1608 01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:17,679 Speaker 3: transport them. 1609 01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:19,000 Speaker 8: Wow. 1610 01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:23,160 Speaker 2: No small number of things to cover. That's why we've 1611 01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:25,920 Speaker 2: brought in Victoria Coats, who watches all of these boiling pots. 1612 01:21:25,960 --> 01:21:28,640 Speaker 2: We're so grateful for your insights. Victoria. Thank you. If 1613 01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:30,360 Speaker 2: we don't talk to you beforehand, I hope you have 1614 01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:31,520 Speaker 2: a very merry Christmas. 1615 01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:33,160 Speaker 1: Well, thank you, Chris. 1616 01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:35,000 Speaker 3: Always great to be with you, and merry Christmas to 1617 01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:35,759 Speaker 3: all your listeners. 1618 01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:39,840 Speaker 2: Moren a minute, Hey, good to be with you and 1619 01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:44,360 Speaker 2: merry Christmas. Looking at Key West, Florida this morning. Thrilled 1620 01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:46,799 Speaker 2: to have you here wherever you might be. Our telephone 1621 01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:49,800 Speaker 2: number is eighty five to five Stigall. You can catch 1622 01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:52,080 Speaker 2: us online at Chrisstigall dot com. Still to come, our 1623 01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:55,000 Speaker 2: friend Aaron Maguire, who's busting at the seams because her 1624 01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:59,120 Speaker 2: Buffalo bills continue their winning ways. I don't know that 1625 01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:01,679 Speaker 2: was a shootout with New England. The Patriots are coming 1626 01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:03,360 Speaker 2: back all of a sudden, How fast Eddy look like 1627 01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:04,960 Speaker 2: an interesting team again? The Patriots. 1628 01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:07,880 Speaker 7: Patriots are surprising the heck out of me. I didn't 1629 01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:10,639 Speaker 7: realize because I have Hunter Henry on my fantasy team 1630 01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:13,920 Speaker 7: and he just no no production throughout the year. And 1631 01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:16,200 Speaker 7: Tom Brady called him the greatest tight end in New 1632 01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:18,760 Speaker 7: England history on one of the Fox broadcasts. I'm like, 1633 01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:20,599 Speaker 7: holy crap, Now he's starting to produce. 1634 01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:24,479 Speaker 2: They're coming on. Man. Did you see the Husk visited 1635 01:22:24,520 --> 01:22:27,559 Speaker 2: the Eagles sideline yesterday? 1636 01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:29,280 Speaker 7: He did the cobirth. 1637 01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:38,920 Speaker 2: He got to say, well he did you have a seat? 1638 01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:41,320 Speaker 2: Mister President? Joe Biden is who we're talking about, folks, 1639 01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:43,479 Speaker 2: those of you who don't know, we've lovingly referred to 1640 01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:46,080 Speaker 2: him as the Husk around here. Joe Biden visited the 1641 01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:50,200 Speaker 2: Eagles sideline. He was wearing a Super Bowl twenty three 1642 01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:53,120 Speaker 2: hat or a thirty three what was it super Anyway, 1643 01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:55,760 Speaker 2: the hat he was wearing ed he was wearing an 1644 01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:57,720 Speaker 2: Eagles hat, but he was wearing the Eagles hat from 1645 01:22:57,760 --> 01:22:59,960 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, which is what number was it? Versus 1646 01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:02,080 Speaker 2: the Chiefs that the Chiefs ultimately won. 1647 01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:08,719 Speaker 7: Oh fifty seven, he was wearing that super Bowl hat 1648 01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:09,760 Speaker 7: on the Eagles side. 1649 01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:12,320 Speaker 2: I saw a photo of it today. Is that the 1650 01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:12,920 Speaker 2: one you wear? 1651 01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:13,280 Speaker 6: No? 1652 01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:15,960 Speaker 2: Heck, no, you can't get the you can't get the 1653 01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:17,479 Speaker 2: man just a regular Eagles hat. 1654 01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:20,880 Speaker 7: No, we're a championship one. They're defending champs. 1655 01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:23,639 Speaker 2: Why not he wore the wrong one, Eddie. 1656 01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:26,559 Speaker 7: That's like in twenty seventeen, I bought a Division Champs 1657 01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:29,080 Speaker 7: shirt because I knew that we just weren't going to 1658 01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:31,280 Speaker 7: win the super Bowl, and then in twenty eighteen we did. 1659 01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:33,280 Speaker 7: I was like, God, division sho. I just saw I 1660 01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:35,920 Speaker 7: wear that Division Champs all the time as a sign 1661 01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:36,599 Speaker 7: of good luck. 1662 01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:41,840 Speaker 2: President Biden visiting the Eagles and walking the sidelines. And 1663 01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:47,120 Speaker 2: just some added just for your edification if you cared 1664 01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:49,960 Speaker 2: the presidential library. You know, all these presidents raised funds 1665 01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:54,280 Speaker 2: to build presidential libraries. He's raised almost a minuscule amount, 1666 01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:57,240 Speaker 2: barely registering a small fraction of the money needed to 1667 01:23:57,280 --> 01:24:01,160 Speaker 2: even begin construction of a presidential library, leaving uncertainty about 1668 01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:03,960 Speaker 2: when a library might even be built and its viability 1669 01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:08,040 Speaker 2: as a standalone project at all. That sounds about right. 1670 01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:12,200 Speaker 2: First president of American history who just Obama's is bloated 1671 01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:16,040 Speaker 2: and ugly and still way behind schedule. Biden's may not 1672 01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:18,800 Speaker 2: even be funded or built at all. Boy, if ever, 1673 01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:26,600 Speaker 2: there were just two symbols of two presidencies, just long, excruciating, 1674 01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:31,840 Speaker 2: expensive and ugly and still not complete, the Obama presidency, 1675 01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:37,240 Speaker 2: then the Biden presidency non existent, nobody particularly interested, nobody's 1676 01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:39,559 Speaker 2: really sure it's even real or going to happen at all. 1677 01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:43,560 Speaker 2: That's about right. The Joe Biden Presidential Library may not 1678 01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:47,840 Speaker 2: even get built. It's almost kind of depressing in its 1679 01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:50,439 Speaker 2: own way. And then there's Cackle Bridges, his vice president, 1680 01:24:50,479 --> 01:24:53,000 Speaker 2: the woman that would be president today had she been successful. 1681 01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:57,000 Speaker 2: Can you imagine Kamala Harris as president today? Can you 1682 01:24:57,040 --> 01:25:00,720 Speaker 2: imagine it? She isn't planning to go jen into that 1683 01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:03,920 Speaker 2: good Night, writes Axios. This week, the former vice president 1684 01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:06,840 Speaker 2: made clear to potential twenty twenty eight rivals that she's 1685 01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:12,080 Speaker 2: working to keep another White House campaign viable. Despite worries 1686 01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:14,920 Speaker 2: from party leaders and donors she can't win, Harris remains 1687 01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:17,519 Speaker 2: at or near the top of most primary polls. She 1688 01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:20,439 Speaker 2: also has strong support among black voters. Oh well, then 1689 01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:23,439 Speaker 2: that's why you do it. Of course, if she has 1690 01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:27,040 Speaker 2: strong approval amongst black voters, the most critical voting block, well, 1691 01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:28,880 Speaker 2: we know how well it worked for her before. And 1692 01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:32,240 Speaker 2: we know that Barack Obama running around scolding Blacks telling 1693 01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:34,960 Speaker 2: them they owe her something. We know how well that worked. Look, 1694 01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:40,280 Speaker 2: I hope let this be true. Please, I pray. I 1695 01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:44,880 Speaker 2: would love nothing more than to see that happen. By 1696 01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:47,479 Speaker 2: the way, Nicki Minaj is attacking Gavin Newsom for saying 1697 01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:54,320 Speaker 2: he wants to see trans kids. She's just pummeling him 1698 01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:57,200 Speaker 2: on this thing. And I think this trans issue, as 1699 01:25:57,240 --> 01:25:59,280 Speaker 2: long as he continues to embrace it, is exactly why 1700 01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:01,360 Speaker 2: he won't be the NOMA. I think they will run 1701 01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:04,120 Speaker 2: far and fast from that. That's my bet. We'll see 1702 01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:07,800 Speaker 2: look much like our friend Aarin Maguire, Chuck Schumer, big 1703 01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:12,120 Speaker 2: bills fan, even when it's terribly, terribly inappropriate number eighty four. 1704 01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:14,840 Speaker 15: If you would, And of course I'm going to say 1705 01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:19,559 Speaker 15: a few words about the terrible shooting in Sydney, Australia. Okay, So, 1706 01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:22,200 Speaker 15: and first, of course, as I always say, no matter what, 1707 01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:24,639 Speaker 15: go Bills, they beat the Patriots today. 1708 01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:28,680 Speaker 2: It's a big deal. I mean, Aaron, I feel like 1709 01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:31,240 Speaker 2: your political strategist, and I know you love the Bills, 1710 01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:33,760 Speaker 2: but I don't know. There's probably a time and a 1711 01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:36,160 Speaker 2: place for that. Good morning, Good morning. 1712 01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:38,240 Speaker 16: There certainly isn't a time and a place for that, 1713 01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:40,440 Speaker 16: and it's not at the top of a press conference 1714 01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:43,439 Speaker 16: like that. Leave it to Chuck Schumer to never be 1715 01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:47,679 Speaker 16: able to read a room. The guy is so inapt. 1716 01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:51,040 Speaker 16: He has failed New Yorker's tremendously, and instead of being 1717 01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:53,679 Speaker 16: an actual statsman, he decides to like throw a quip 1718 01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:56,919 Speaker 16: and listen. I love the Bills, probably more than almost 1719 01:26:56,960 --> 01:27:01,680 Speaker 16: anybody in the country, but I also take serious moments seriously. 1720 01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:04,280 Speaker 1: And I'm not an elected official. You would think that 1721 01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:05,440 Speaker 1: the elected who's. 1722 01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:07,400 Speaker 16: Been in office for fifty some odd years would have 1723 01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:09,400 Speaker 16: a better sense of not doing that. 1724 01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:13,200 Speaker 2: Unbelievable. I will say congratulations to your Bills though, by 1725 01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:16,320 Speaker 2: the way, and Josh Allen on top of an expected 1726 01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:18,840 Speaker 2: father big news there in Buffalo. 1727 01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:22,160 Speaker 16: Yes, very exciting win versus the Patriots. With Josh Allen 1728 01:27:22,280 --> 01:27:25,679 Speaker 16: on the field, we are never out of a game, 1729 01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:29,240 Speaker 16: a resilient team. And Hailey Steinfeld is pregnant. So there 1730 01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:31,080 Speaker 16: are Bills mafia babies on the way. 1731 01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:32,839 Speaker 1: We are very excited at Buffalo. 1732 01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:37,120 Speaker 2: Well, we'll be watching and rooting. That's you know. I 1733 01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:40,080 Speaker 2: have absolutely nothing now to watch except your team, so 1734 01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:43,479 Speaker 2: I'll have to and the Eagles and look, as far 1735 01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:46,000 Speaker 2: as I'm concerned, I would love to see a Bill's 1736 01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:47,920 Speaker 2: Eagle super Bowl. I would love to see that. I 1737 01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:49,160 Speaker 2: think that'd be great fun, don't you. 1738 01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:52,599 Speaker 16: I just want to see the Bills in a super Bowl. Honestly, 1739 01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:55,799 Speaker 16: it could be against anybody. I just want my Super 1740 01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:59,000 Speaker 16: Bowl game and I want my victory. I have thirty 1741 01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:00,960 Speaker 16: seven years of being a Bills fan. 1742 01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:02,559 Speaker 1: I want my win. 1743 01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:05,800 Speaker 2: All right, well, we're ready. I want to ask you. 1744 01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:08,519 Speaker 2: Speaking of winning, I want to ask you if you 1745 01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:12,479 Speaker 2: believe at this hour President Trump given the polling that 1746 01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:15,759 Speaker 2: I've seen that says he's still in terms of recent history, 1747 01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:18,439 Speaker 2: he's still trending better than other presidents at this point 1748 01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:23,280 Speaker 2: and their presidencies comparatively, is he winning? If Republicans in 1749 01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:26,200 Speaker 2: Congress are not, are they separate or are they together? 1750 01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:30,120 Speaker 2: Is this an all rise together? Or they're separate entities 1751 01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:32,799 Speaker 2: on separate tracks. Trump versus the GOP and Congress. 1752 01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:36,360 Speaker 16: They should be like a rising tide. Lifts all votes. 1753 01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:39,120 Speaker 16: There should be one unified party, but we do have 1754 01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:41,439 Speaker 16: the separation of branches of government here. 1755 01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:42,240 Speaker 7: So what the. 1756 01:28:42,240 --> 01:28:45,840 Speaker 16: Executive does as the Republican leader, Donald Trump as the 1757 01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:49,479 Speaker 16: leader of the party versus the congressional priorities you see 1758 01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:52,000 Speaker 16: from the Republicans elected in the House, in the Senate. 1759 01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:55,040 Speaker 16: That's a tale as old as time does. That's not 1760 01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:57,760 Speaker 16: a Donald Trump thing. That's not a George Bush thing, 1761 01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:00,799 Speaker 16: that's not a Barack Obama thing. That is acted officials 1762 01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:03,320 Speaker 16: who each have their own set of priorities. And so 1763 01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:06,280 Speaker 16: Donald Trump can be doing very well as the executive 1764 01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:08,800 Speaker 16: in the country and Congress can be doing well on 1765 01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:12,120 Speaker 16: two separate tracks. It's just right now Congress is actually 1766 01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:14,800 Speaker 16: in the hardest place it has been in a very 1767 01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:17,720 Speaker 16: long time, looking at this short runway to the end 1768 01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:19,640 Speaker 16: of the year and a number of big things to 1769 01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:21,120 Speaker 16: try and clean up along the way. 1770 01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:27,120 Speaker 2: What do you believe Republicans should do in Congress with Obamacare? 1771 01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:30,519 Speaker 2: We know that Democrats wanted a three year extension of 1772 01:29:30,560 --> 01:29:33,360 Speaker 2: subsidies as is just rubber stamp another three years of 1773 01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:37,240 Speaker 2: doing business as usual. Republicans say no, but they haven't 1774 01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:39,880 Speaker 2: really coalesced around to plan forward of their own, which 1775 01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:43,599 Speaker 2: Democrats wouldn't embrace. We all know that if the calendar 1776 01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:49,320 Speaker 2: turns and rates jump precipitously on Obamacare, people, Republicans are 1777 01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:52,360 Speaker 2: going to be left holding the blame. Not that I 1778 01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:54,320 Speaker 2: think they deserve it, but they will be. So what 1779 01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:57,080 Speaker 2: do you do here? This feels kind of politically untenable 1780 01:29:57,120 --> 01:29:59,599 Speaker 2: with very little time left till the year ends. 1781 01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:03,440 Speaker 16: Yeah, this is a really tough leadership moment for Republicans 1782 01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:06,479 Speaker 16: because they are having to clean up democrats mess. We 1783 01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:10,799 Speaker 16: know Obamacare is the signature Democrat legislation in this country. 1784 01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:15,920 Speaker 16: It's named after Barack Obama. All of that aside, it's 1785 01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:18,320 Speaker 16: now up to Republicans like Donald Trump. When we had 1786 01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:21,400 Speaker 16: to fix the economy after the Biden inflation, and for 1787 01:30:21,479 --> 01:30:24,840 Speaker 16: Republicans to have to clean up the Obamacare subsidies mess. 1788 01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:29,480 Speaker 16: Everybody knew that these were expiring. However, nobody really prevented 1789 01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:33,679 Speaker 16: an off ramp or presented one. My best educated guess 1790 01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:38,160 Speaker 16: is that what will happen is these subsidies will collapse. 1791 01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:39,200 Speaker 1: And they will not be renewed. 1792 01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:43,679 Speaker 16: What should happen is some level of an off ramp 1793 01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:47,080 Speaker 16: bridge here where we start putting in the reforms we 1794 01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:51,160 Speaker 16: need in order to structurally change the healthcare system. So 1795 01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:53,160 Speaker 16: what does that mean. It means that we need to 1796 01:30:53,200 --> 01:30:56,559 Speaker 16: be putting on limitations to income caps. Here, if you're 1797 01:30:56,680 --> 01:30:59,760 Speaker 16: making plenty of money, you don't need a subsidy to 1798 01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:02,760 Speaker 16: your private healthcare. That is not something that if you're 1799 01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:06,559 Speaker 16: making three hundred thousand dollars a year, taxpayers should be footing. 1800 01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:09,320 Speaker 16: That's an important one and making sure And I know 1801 01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:12,519 Speaker 16: Democrats love to say no, illegals are not getting free 1802 01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:15,640 Speaker 16: healthcare in this country. They most certainly are. There are 1803 01:31:15,680 --> 01:31:18,280 Speaker 16: plenty of people abusing the system, and there are plenty 1804 01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:20,880 Speaker 16: of studies that show you can use the same Social 1805 01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:23,960 Speaker 16: Security number and get approved forty five out of fifty 1806 01:31:24,000 --> 01:31:25,920 Speaker 16: times on the Obamacare website. 1807 01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:27,160 Speaker 1: There is plenty of fraud. 1808 01:31:27,200 --> 01:31:30,040 Speaker 16: We need to start building in these structural changes. One 1809 01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:33,360 Speaker 16: so we don't hurt the American people who Democrats have 1810 01:31:33,439 --> 01:31:36,200 Speaker 16: set up to be burned in this situation, and off 1811 01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:39,519 Speaker 16: ramp with structural security changes. And it allows people to 1812 01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:42,960 Speaker 16: keep the subsidies for those who need it. As we 1813 01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:45,880 Speaker 16: begin what is always the most difficult thing to do 1814 01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:50,560 Speaker 16: in Congress, that's healthcare reform. There's a reason that Republicans 1815 01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:54,439 Speaker 16: voted hundreds of times to repeal Obamacare. There's a reason 1816 01:31:54,520 --> 01:31:58,400 Speaker 16: John McCain voted no against the final Obamacare repeal effort 1817 01:31:58,640 --> 01:32:02,120 Speaker 16: because he didn't have a strategy for Republicans he saw 1818 01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:05,600 Speaker 16: for healthcare reform going forward. They have to consider the 1819 01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:08,559 Speaker 16: fact that while we don't want to be continuing subsidy 1820 01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:12,160 Speaker 16: payments to health insurance companies, pulling the rug out from 1821 01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:14,559 Speaker 16: under the American people to try to stick it to 1822 01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:16,440 Speaker 16: Democrats is a bad strategy. 1823 01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:21,760 Speaker 2: Does President Trump have his hands around, or at least 1824 01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:24,280 Speaker 2: does the White House have their hands around, this thing 1825 01:32:24,400 --> 01:32:27,000 Speaker 2: called affordability? However you want to use that in the 1826 01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:29,000 Speaker 2: context you want to use it. I know it frustrates him. 1827 01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:31,240 Speaker 2: It's clear it does. I saw JD. Vance over the 1828 01:32:31,280 --> 01:32:34,720 Speaker 2: weekend say on X, hey, look we get it. Things 1829 01:32:34,760 --> 01:32:37,599 Speaker 2: are still tough. We're not satisfied. We're still at work. 1830 01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:42,559 Speaker 2: So it's like the beston is out there. Both yes, 1831 01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:45,240 Speaker 2: acknowledging the affordability thing, but also saying, hey, look we 1832 01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:48,880 Speaker 2: trade deficit. Tariffs are bringing in tons of money, stock 1833 01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:51,519 Speaker 2: markets through the roof. Energy prices are coming down. Things 1834 01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:54,639 Speaker 2: are much better. This is I mean, as a political 1835 01:32:54,680 --> 01:32:58,080 Speaker 2: strategist and a professional messenger, Aaron, it's a tough thing. 1836 01:32:58,479 --> 01:33:01,519 Speaker 2: President Trump's frustrated, I'm sure, and you can tell it. 1837 01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:04,920 Speaker 2: He doesn't like Democrats acting as though he's making things 1838 01:33:04,920 --> 01:33:10,240 Speaker 2: worse when we intellectually know he's not. But it's perception, right, It. 1839 01:33:10,200 --> 01:33:12,679 Speaker 16: Is perception, And I think this is where the Trump 1840 01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:17,000 Speaker 16: Dance administration does so much better than Joe Biden and Democrats. Ever, 1841 01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:20,360 Speaker 16: did they acknowledge the hardship the American people are going through. 1842 01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:23,639 Speaker 16: They're not saying, don't believe that it's not hard. However, 1843 01:33:23,720 --> 01:33:26,720 Speaker 16: here's what we're doing to make it more affordable. The 1844 01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:29,439 Speaker 16: price of gas is going down. You know what's about 1845 01:33:29,439 --> 01:33:31,880 Speaker 16: to happen. Millions of Americans are about to hit the 1846 01:33:31,960 --> 01:33:35,480 Speaker 16: roads across the highways in the United States for the holidays. 1847 01:33:35,680 --> 01:33:38,360 Speaker 16: I myself will be driving up to Rochester this week. 1848 01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:40,439 Speaker 16: It's a six and a half hour drive, and it's 1849 01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:42,840 Speaker 16: more affordable now for me to put gas in my 1850 01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:45,560 Speaker 16: car to get up to my hometown for the holidays 1851 01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:49,240 Speaker 16: than it was this time last year. That's a structural 1852 01:33:49,240 --> 01:33:53,000 Speaker 16: improvement the American people are seeing. But grabbing the word affordability, 1853 01:33:53,160 --> 01:33:55,760 Speaker 16: Democrats want to try and use that word and beat 1854 01:33:55,800 --> 01:33:58,519 Speaker 16: Republicans over the head with it. But not only are 1855 01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:02,920 Speaker 16: Republicans taking that, they're talking actively to the American people 1856 01:34:02,920 --> 01:34:06,080 Speaker 16: about it. And Donald Trump is now on the road 1857 01:34:06,160 --> 01:34:08,519 Speaker 16: messaging on this. That's the important thing is there are 1858 01:34:08,560 --> 01:34:09,800 Speaker 16: a few messengers out there. 1859 01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:10,719 Speaker 1: And I really loved. 1860 01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:13,720 Speaker 16: Seeing Susie Wiles recently saying the President doesn't know it, 1861 01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:16,080 Speaker 16: but he's about to be out there campaigning like it's 1862 01:34:16,120 --> 01:34:19,680 Speaker 16: twenty twenty four going into the midterms, because he's the 1863 01:34:19,680 --> 01:34:22,120 Speaker 16: only one who can really turn out that sect of voters, 1864 01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:24,800 Speaker 16: that low propensity group right now that we're gonna need 1865 01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:27,400 Speaker 16: to keep Republicans in power. But he's also one of 1866 01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:30,759 Speaker 16: the few has the best opportunity to sell the affordability message. 1867 01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:34,040 Speaker 16: Republicans have to be all gas on this. Democrats want 1868 01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:36,360 Speaker 16: to challenge it. They want to say things are more expensive, 1869 01:34:36,479 --> 01:34:39,240 Speaker 16: and they've got the liberal lunacy media at their back 1870 01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:40,160 Speaker 16: to help them with that. 1871 01:34:40,520 --> 01:34:42,800 Speaker 1: And Republicans have to do what we always do. 1872 01:34:43,120 --> 01:34:46,120 Speaker 16: Come with the facts, be prepared, and be unafraid to 1873 01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:50,559 Speaker 16: talk to your constituents. Hiding from voters doesn't sell a message. 1874 01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:52,920 Speaker 16: And I know town halls are tard and I know 1875 01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:56,360 Speaker 16: the NRCC, the NRSC, the RNC, other people may have 1876 01:34:56,400 --> 01:34:59,920 Speaker 16: differing opinions on how aggressively you should be in your community. 1877 01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:03,080 Speaker 16: Unafraid as an elected to talk to your voters and 1878 01:35:03,160 --> 01:35:06,000 Speaker 16: get out there right now. Do coke drives, do food drives, 1879 01:35:06,200 --> 01:35:09,840 Speaker 16: use the season to message affordability and how you're helping 1880 01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:10,519 Speaker 16: your community. 1881 01:35:10,600 --> 01:35:11,840 Speaker 1: No reason to hide from it. 1882 01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:13,599 Speaker 8: Yes see, this is it. 1883 01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:15,920 Speaker 2: And I think that some are saying, well, it's violent, 1884 01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:18,240 Speaker 2: it's it's too tenuous. I'm scared of we'll be heard. 1885 01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:19,640 Speaker 2: I don't know that we can be safe and all 1886 01:35:19,640 --> 01:35:21,679 Speaker 2: that stuff. That's a bad look, isn't it. I mean, 1887 01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:23,360 Speaker 2: you know, I don't want to put anybody in harm's way, 1888 01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:24,760 Speaker 2: but it's a bad look to say I'm afraid to 1889 01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:25,559 Speaker 2: go talk to people. 1890 01:35:26,280 --> 01:35:27,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one of the things. 1891 01:35:27,200 --> 01:35:30,240 Speaker 16: There are other opportunities to talk to people than just 1892 01:35:30,280 --> 01:35:34,200 Speaker 16: in person. Telephone, town halls, do zoom meetings, find a 1893 01:35:34,240 --> 01:35:36,479 Speaker 16: way if you're worried about security. And I will never 1894 01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:39,040 Speaker 16: blame a member and an elected official for their fear 1895 01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:41,519 Speaker 16: for their life. I can only imagine the amount of 1896 01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:44,040 Speaker 16: targets and threats many of them get. We have to 1897 01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:46,360 Speaker 16: be willing to work with your local law enforcement to 1898 01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:48,559 Speaker 16: make sure you're talking to them if you are doing 1899 01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:50,960 Speaker 16: an in person town hall. There are ways to keep 1900 01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:54,479 Speaker 16: your community and yourself safe and the message direct to 1901 01:35:54,640 --> 01:35:57,280 Speaker 16: voters in a way that is going to make sure 1902 01:35:57,280 --> 01:36:00,000 Speaker 16: that you are not hiding from the fact that Republicans 1903 01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:03,960 Speaker 16: have delivered on affordability. Democrats continue to lie about that. 1904 01:36:04,920 --> 01:36:06,920 Speaker 2: Hey, just briefly, Aerin. I'm curious because I haven't asked 1905 01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:09,160 Speaker 2: you about Jasmine Crockett yet. There's a story in the 1906 01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:11,120 Speaker 2: Free Beacon that says she jumps to the lead and 1907 01:36:11,160 --> 01:36:15,840 Speaker 2: the Texas Democrats Senate primary, she would be the nominee 1908 01:36:15,920 --> 01:36:19,120 Speaker 2: odds on right favorite if she actually does this thing, 1909 01:36:19,160 --> 01:36:20,840 Speaker 2: so she'll be the nominee. But what's it look like? 1910 01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:23,320 Speaker 2: Is she another Bette down there? Or could she do 1911 01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:24,000 Speaker 2: better than him? 1912 01:36:24,479 --> 01:36:26,640 Speaker 16: I don't think she could because on day one of 1913 01:36:26,680 --> 01:36:29,439 Speaker 16: her campaign she came out and said she's not trying 1914 01:36:29,479 --> 01:36:33,000 Speaker 16: to win Trump voters. Fifty six percent of Texas. 1915 01:36:32,600 --> 01:36:34,160 Speaker 1: Voted for Donald Trump. 1916 01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:37,520 Speaker 16: If she's aiming for the forty two percent, Kamala Harriscot, 1917 01:36:37,800 --> 01:36:40,559 Speaker 16: great math there, Jasmine, You're going to go the way 1918 01:36:40,840 --> 01:36:44,040 Speaker 16: of Beto O'Rourke. The lady and the sneakers and Colin 1919 01:36:44,120 --> 01:36:46,479 Speaker 16: allread this big blue fever dream. 1920 01:36:46,520 --> 01:36:48,240 Speaker 1: Democrats keep believing their. 1921 01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:50,720 Speaker 16: Hat they could have, especially with someone who looks like 1922 01:36:50,760 --> 01:36:53,879 Speaker 16: a moderate, like a James Tallerico who's also in that primary. 1923 01:36:54,200 --> 01:36:57,479 Speaker 16: You let crazy Town Jasmine Crockett in there, poof, there 1924 01:36:57,520 --> 01:37:00,439 Speaker 16: it goes. The fever dream's gone again and Republiclkins will 1925 01:37:00,520 --> 01:37:03,679 Speaker 16: yet again represent the people of Texas because Republicans continue 1926 01:37:03,720 --> 01:37:06,120 Speaker 16: to win by large margins in that state. 1927 01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:09,719 Speaker 2: We're going to do one more of these next Monday 1928 01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:12,240 Speaker 2: for our final one of the year. Erin, assuming your game, 1929 01:37:12,280 --> 01:37:13,920 Speaker 2: I hope that you will be well. Will we be 1930 01:37:13,960 --> 01:37:15,000 Speaker 2: able to join us on Monday. 1931 01:37:15,439 --> 01:37:17,480 Speaker 1: I will be there. I will be for my hometown. 1932 01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:19,960 Speaker 16: I will be at my sister's house doing it from Rochester, 1933 01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:21,479 Speaker 16: but I will be here next week. 1934 01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:22,599 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it. 1935 01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:24,960 Speaker 2: I love it. Thank you, Erin, Merry Christmas. 1936 01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:25,840 Speaker 8: We'll see you next week. 1937 01:37:26,160 --> 01:37:28,200 Speaker 1: Sina, morning it. 1938 01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:32,400 Speaker 2: Okay, thank you. We are still at it. We're still 1939 01:37:32,439 --> 01:37:36,000 Speaker 2: working on these donations at Angel Tree. You guys are 1940 01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:38,400 Speaker 2: coming in at it, coming in hot today. I like it. 1941 01:37:38,439 --> 01:37:40,320 Speaker 2: We have a week to go and so we're trying 1942 01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:42,719 Speaker 2: to raise the bar here and get the Angel Tree campaign, 1943 01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:46,439 Speaker 2: the Prison Fellowship thing over the finish line. We're really close. 1944 01:37:46,479 --> 01:37:52,080 Speaker 2: Now here's the deal. Twenty six hundred kids is what 1945 01:37:52,120 --> 01:37:54,559 Speaker 2: we've pledged to try to help here by the end 1946 01:37:54,760 --> 01:37:59,519 Speaker 2: of well, I say, the end of this week. We've 1947 01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:02,600 Speaker 2: technically got ten more days, but I really don't. I 1948 01:38:02,600 --> 01:38:05,759 Speaker 2: don't want to wait until right at Christmas. The Prison 1949 01:38:05,760 --> 01:38:08,559 Speaker 2: Fellowship people can get a gift out the door today. 1950 01:38:09,320 --> 01:38:12,160 Speaker 2: Every thirty dollars donation that's made today means a gift 1951 01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:15,320 Speaker 2: has turned out today for one of these kids who 1952 01:38:15,320 --> 01:38:17,800 Speaker 2: has a parent who's incarcerated. And what does this mean? 1953 01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:19,920 Speaker 2: What does it do? Well, listen to Jermaine, who is 1954 01:38:19,960 --> 01:38:23,240 Speaker 2: one of the guys who now is an ambassador for 1955 01:38:23,280 --> 01:38:26,680 Speaker 2: Prison Fellowship, was directly impacted by this. He's now a 1956 01:38:26,720 --> 01:38:29,519 Speaker 2: free guy. He's paid his debt to society. He had 1957 01:38:29,560 --> 01:38:32,519 Speaker 2: some family that was back home and Prison Fellowship let 1958 01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:35,320 Speaker 2: those kids know Dad's still thinking about them. 1959 01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:38,360 Speaker 9: Listen, there wasn't a Christmas that went by where he 1960 01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:42,160 Speaker 9: didn't hear or receive something from his dad. So that 1961 01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:46,080 Speaker 9: void that he, like most kids have, my son was 1962 01:38:46,120 --> 01:38:49,679 Speaker 9: able to have that void fulfilled during Christmas time because 1963 01:38:49,720 --> 01:38:52,280 Speaker 9: gifts always came on behalf of his dad, and so 1964 01:38:52,400 --> 01:38:55,160 Speaker 9: he knows Dad was there during the holiday season. Although 1965 01:38:55,160 --> 01:38:58,400 Speaker 9: he couldn't see me that day. The gifts was a 1966 01:38:58,400 --> 01:39:00,559 Speaker 9: great representation and filled my spot. 1967 01:39:02,439 --> 01:39:04,880 Speaker 2: Listen, this is that time of year where you can 1968 01:39:04,920 --> 01:39:07,160 Speaker 2: be a blessing to someone if you yourself feel you 1969 01:39:07,240 --> 01:39:09,479 Speaker 2: have been blessed. And not just anyone. I'm talking about 1970 01:39:09,520 --> 01:39:12,639 Speaker 2: a child who desperately needs to know they are loved 1971 01:39:12,640 --> 01:39:14,240 Speaker 2: and they're being thought of, and they need to have 1972 01:39:14,280 --> 01:39:16,080 Speaker 2: a sense of hope and joy this time of year. 1973 01:39:16,160 --> 01:39:19,639 Speaker 2: A gift from you for just thirty dollars gets it done. 1974 01:39:19,960 --> 01:39:22,519 Speaker 2: We're closing in on this goal. I am confident we're 1975 01:39:22,560 --> 01:39:26,559 Speaker 2: going to hit it this week. Confident, and if you 1976 01:39:26,600 --> 01:39:29,040 Speaker 2: can help, whatever you can do thirty. If it's not thirty, 1977 01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:31,120 Speaker 2: if you can do five, that's great. It doesn't have 1978 01:39:31,160 --> 01:39:32,880 Speaker 2: to be thirty. But if you can do more than thirty, 1979 01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:35,599 Speaker 2: every thirty dollars covers a child on a handwritten note 1980 01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:39,040 Speaker 2: from the parent as well as a Bible in their home. 1981 01:39:39,720 --> 01:39:42,400 Speaker 2: And that's what it's about this season, isn't it. So 1982 01:39:42,520 --> 01:39:44,120 Speaker 2: help us out if you can. I hope that you will. 1983 01:39:44,160 --> 01:39:45,880 Speaker 2: If you haven't done so yet, go to my website, 1984 01:39:45,920 --> 01:39:47,960 Speaker 2: Christigall dot com. There's a link right there. You can 1985 01:39:48,040 --> 01:39:50,960 Speaker 2: also text right now, go ahead and text my name 1986 01:39:51,080 --> 01:39:54,720 Speaker 2: Chris to nine four eight seven eight. Text Chris to 1987 01:39:54,960 --> 01:39:58,400 Speaker 2: nine four eight seven eight and we'll send you a 1988 01:39:58,439 --> 01:40:01,400 Speaker 2: link and you can get a donation link that way 1989 01:40:01,400 --> 01:40:05,280 Speaker 2: and get it through. Hope that you'll do it. We 1990 01:40:05,280 --> 01:40:06,080 Speaker 2: could really use your help. 1991 01:40:06,120 --> 01:40:06,280 Speaker 4: Again. 1992 01:40:06,600 --> 01:40:08,240 Speaker 2: I don't want to be obnoxious about this. I'm not 1993 01:40:08,240 --> 01:40:09,680 Speaker 2: trying to hit you over the head with it. I'm 1994 01:40:09,720 --> 01:40:11,920 Speaker 2: really not. I could. I could spend a whole show 1995 01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:15,719 Speaker 2: just pounding and pounding this, but I'm trying my best 1996 01:40:15,720 --> 01:40:17,680 Speaker 2: to just pray, have faith, sit back and let you 1997 01:40:17,720 --> 01:40:19,880 Speaker 2: do the hard, hard work and heavy lifting. So I 1998 01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:22,519 Speaker 2: thank you in advance for your I may have to 1999 01:40:22,520 --> 01:40:24,519 Speaker 2: get obnoxious fast, Eddie as the week goes on, if 2000 01:40:24,560 --> 01:40:26,680 Speaker 2: we get we're getting closer and we don't get it done. 2001 01:40:26,760 --> 01:40:29,000 Speaker 2: I don't want to get obnoxious, but I might have to. 2002 01:40:29,280 --> 01:40:30,160 Speaker 2: I don't want it, Chris. 2003 01:40:30,200 --> 01:40:32,120 Speaker 7: I understand it's that time of year, you know. We 2004 01:40:32,160 --> 01:40:34,400 Speaker 7: want these kids to have a good Christmas, and we're 2005 01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:35,920 Speaker 7: closing in on it. Man, we really are. 2006 01:40:36,920 --> 01:40:39,120 Speaker 2: Got a very very nice email from someone and I 2007 01:40:39,120 --> 01:40:41,840 Speaker 2: wanted to close with this today. Merry Christmas, Chris. It's 2008 01:40:41,840 --> 01:40:44,439 Speaker 2: from Rick. He says, thank you for your outstanding show. 2009 01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:47,599 Speaker 2: Regarding your broadcasts in this last week, there were some 2010 01:40:47,640 --> 01:40:49,920 Speaker 2: comments from listeners that your show was growing on them. 2011 01:40:49,960 --> 01:40:51,840 Speaker 2: I have to say I'm glad to hear that, but 2012 01:40:51,960 --> 01:40:55,240 Speaker 2: I've been listening since you started the show and took 2013 01:40:55,240 --> 01:40:58,880 Speaker 2: over from Hugh Hewitt, and your show is absolutely the best. 2014 01:40:59,280 --> 01:41:02,360 Speaker 2: I love you. But from day one you make me think, laugh, 2015 01:41:02,439 --> 01:41:05,480 Speaker 2: and also ponder events and issues like no other conservative 2016 01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:09,600 Speaker 2: or commentator ever. Wow. Your show plus coffee in the 2017 01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:11,799 Speaker 2: morning gets me started on my day, and I'm grateful 2018 01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:15,600 Speaker 2: for both. Right Rick, he said, Also listen to this 2019 01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:19,320 Speaker 2: Bobby Bass our audio cowboy. You ready for this? He said, 2020 01:41:19,360 --> 01:41:22,599 Speaker 2: you have the best bumper music. And I am especially 2021 01:41:22,640 --> 01:41:25,960 Speaker 2: grateful for your consideration of listeners' needs, like giving out 2022 01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:28,920 Speaker 2: the tech system to donate to Angel Tree, which we 2023 01:41:29,040 --> 01:41:31,840 Speaker 2: just got done last week. That made it very easy 2024 01:41:31,880 --> 01:41:33,880 Speaker 2: for me to donate to the cause that the Lord 2025 01:41:33,920 --> 01:41:37,679 Speaker 2: has laid upon my and my family's heart to support. Plus, 2026 01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:40,400 Speaker 2: I have to say fast Eddie is outstanding as well, 2027 01:41:40,680 --> 01:41:44,160 Speaker 2: and is superior to any other staff on any show. Ever, 2028 01:41:46,120 --> 01:41:48,120 Speaker 2: how about that any show ever? 2029 01:41:48,439 --> 01:41:51,599 Speaker 7: Very thank you, Rick, very. 2030 01:41:51,439 --> 01:41:55,840 Speaker 2: Much, signed Uncle Rick Kayaso. Oh non kid, that's a joke. 2031 01:41:55,880 --> 01:41:56,720 Speaker 2: You don't know, Rick, do you? 2032 01:41:57,160 --> 01:41:57,400 Speaker 7: No? 2033 01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:00,640 Speaker 2: Thank you, Chris, please keep doing what you're doing. May 2034 01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:02,640 Speaker 2: God richly bless you in yours and everyone at the 2035 01:42:02,680 --> 01:42:05,519 Speaker 2: Christagall Show. Merry Christmas and a happy New Year. Rick. 2036 01:42:05,600 --> 01:42:07,960 Speaker 2: Thank you, you have absolutely no I got that email 2037 01:42:08,000 --> 01:42:10,080 Speaker 2: this weekend and I sent it to the whole team 2038 01:42:10,160 --> 01:42:13,240 Speaker 2: before today's show. You just made our weekends. We're so 2039 01:42:13,320 --> 01:42:15,280 Speaker 2: grateful that you listen and that you're here every day. 2040 01:42:16,280 --> 01:42:18,559 Speaker 2: Hope you have a great day. We'll do it again tomorrow. 2041 01:42:18,760 --> 01:42:22,200 Speaker 2: Catch me at the Harum Society. It's free. See you tomorrow. 2042 01:42:22,600 --> 01:42:24,960 Speaker 2: So that's a wrap for another Christagall Show podcast. Thanks 2043 01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:27,240 Speaker 2: for committing to it, listening to it all the way through. 2044 01:42:27,840 --> 01:42:29,920 Speaker 2: You're a fighter. I like that about you. 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