1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: American student organization in the country, fighting for the future 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: of our republic. My call is to fight evil and 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: if the most important thing is doing good, you'll end 7 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You got to 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: stop sending your kids to college. 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The Charlie Kirk Show 19 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: is proudly sponsored by Preserved Gold, leading gold and silver 20 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: experts and the only precious metals company. I recommend to 21 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: my family, friends and viewers. 22 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,559 Speaker 3: All right, welcome back to Charlie Kirkshaw. We are joined 23 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 3: by Oscar Ramirez. He's a real America's Voice border correspondent, 24 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 3: and with everything that happened over the weekend with Elmencho, 25 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 3: we wanted to have on the ground reporting. So Oscar, 26 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 3: welcome to the show. Tell us where are you or 27 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 3: if you can tell us roundabouts where you are and 28 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 3: where is some of the worst violence happening and is 29 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 3: it still happening. 30 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 4: Well after the assassination and the execution of a Namessio 31 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 4: Sea Elmencho, the violence started escalating in the parts the 32 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 4: tourist areas and the part of Porto a Yata, and 33 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 4: escalated to the parts that they have enormous control, that 34 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 4: is Micho Khan, in the parts of Gerro and also 35 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 4: in Jalisco. But this perplex and it just caused a 36 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 4: domino effect and it started happening in the north borders, 37 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 4: in cities like the one other we are located. What 38 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 4: you know, they started doing narco blockades, burning cars, burning 39 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 4: businesses to send a message to the government and to 40 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 4: tell them that we have presence on these particular neighborhoods 41 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 4: or tourists areas and that we are going to terrorize 42 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 4: the citizens and to let them know that they are 43 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 4: critically hurt because the head of the snake was completely eliminated. 44 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 4: At this particular moment, they started doing this in the 45 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 4: part of the Ijuana, you know, burning cars, burning businesses. 46 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 4: Until now yesterday we were reporting on the ground more 47 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 4: than twenty two incidents happened. Well, it means incidents between 48 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 4: vehicles and also businesses that were burned. Sending the message 49 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 4: strongly to the government of Mexico to tell them we 50 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 4: have a lot of presence on these particular estates in 51 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 4: the whole country and the whole territory. Now a thing 52 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:47,119 Speaker 4: that is extremely important. Just just today breaking news. The 53 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 4: head of the military and the head of the Department 54 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 4: of Defence in Mexico just made out a statement and 55 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 4: an interview said that this was a clear collaboration with 56 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 4: the United States of America in regards to the United 57 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 4: States probid in the intelligence to do the execution by 58 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 4: the federal government of Nemesio. Osegera elemento the violence right now, 59 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 4: it is it was increasing last night here in the 60 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 4: city of Iguana, that is connected to San Diego. There 61 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 4: was still burning of vehicles continuously in several areas. But 62 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 4: until now schools have been off limits. Now they closed 63 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 4: the schools. They's closed, the educational systems of elementary junior 64 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 4: high schools, high schools, and colleges. Businesses are closed for 65 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 4: security reasons. Off the citizens. There has been multiple threats 66 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 4: on social media groups by you know these uh you know, 67 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 4: particularly pages that they are incohoods with the organized crime 68 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 4: telling the population that they're going to start shooting civilians 69 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 4: after ten o'clock at night. Is they're still walking. It 70 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 4: is a huge national security threat. I you know, I 71 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 4: did a video on a report on a vehicle that 72 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 4: it was burned just steps away from the border from 73 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 4: the border wall. This tells you the level of audacity 74 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 4: of the cartel. And they burned that vehicle in front 75 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 4: of a post on the territory the America Torytory this 76 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 4: post that it has a huge camera from the US 77 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 4: customs that basically tells you that they did it on purpose, 78 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 4: just to tell the American government, we know that you 79 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 4: provided the information for our leader to be executed. So 80 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 4: on this moment, the federal government has release statements that 81 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 4: they will provide the security that it needs to be 82 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 4: provided for tourists and also deployment of more military to 83 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 4: the whole content to the whole country of Mexico. 84 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 3: I have a bunch of questions here. As far as 85 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 3: we're the CJGN cartel, the cartel HELICSCO New Generation, how 86 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,239 Speaker 3: where does it rank in terms of the most violent, 87 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 3: most powerful cartels in Mexico? 88 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 4: That is the number one right now? The Meso Sagea 89 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 4: Elemento was one of the most violent ones and atrocious 90 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 4: ones that clearly he sent a message to the population 91 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 4: into the world of decapitations as member and bodies. And 92 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 4: he's the one that is basically pointed out to the 93 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 4: multiple hundreds of thousands of mask grids that they have 94 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 4: been found in our country of Mexical, missing people, extraction 95 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 4: of organs, in all this atrocious acts towards women in 96 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 4: the country. 97 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 5: Oscar, I think that's really baffling me. So twenty five 98 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 5: members of the National Guard killed obvious mayhem throughout the country. 99 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 5: I'm reading the La Times this morning. Mexican President Claudie 100 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 5: Scheinbam insists country is at peace and remains calm after 101 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 5: what's going on. What's her attitude towards all of this. 102 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 5: It seems like she strikes a very strange tone with 103 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,119 Speaker 5: her remarks, and I guess the follow up is what's next. 104 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 5: Is this a spasm of violence or is this going 105 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 5: to turn into a wider I don't know what else 106 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 5: to say besides war. 107 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 4: Well, the Mexican people that we have common sense, and 108 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 4: there's millions of us. We know who perpetrate it, and 109 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 4: who did this mission and who initiated this mission, and 110 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 4: it was the American intelligence. If it wasn't for the 111 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 4: Trump administration, this that just happened would have been done. 112 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 4: And all of this that has happened happening in the 113 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 4: country of Mexical with the dismantling laboratories, the extraction of 114 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 4: criminal leader and leaders of cartels and being extracted to 115 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 4: the United States of America, you know, the execution of 116 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 4: Nemesio Sageta and Manchel. All of this wouldn't be happening. Now. 117 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 4: The Mexican president she has an agenda and is a leftist, 118 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 4: socialist agenda, and she needs to pander through her audience 119 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 4: to say, we are not letting the green goo, We're 120 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 4: not letting the white man to come and invade and 121 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 4: intervene in our country. But we are collaborating so and 122 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 4: so and quote unquote, we're collaborating with the American government 123 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 4: for them to provide information and for us to execute 124 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 4: That is how she's maneuvering this. And of course she's 125 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 4: saying that this all this mission was executed by the 126 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 4: federal government, but now she's obligated to say that the 127 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 4: American government are providing the information. This is history, guys. 128 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 4: Nobody in history in the United States of America has 129 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 4: had the more extraction of information that the Trump administration 130 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 4: has right now. And why do I say that they 131 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 4: have it? Chapuu'sman, they have it, Mayozabada, they had Nico 132 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 4: Lasama Duro, all the extraction of information of how Mexico 133 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 4: works and how corrupt all these dirty politicians that they're 134 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 4: located in this in Congress in Mexico. So the Trump 135 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 4: administration basically knows the ins and outs of the government 136 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 4: and they need to bend a knee when the Trump 137 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 4: administration says we're going in as we're going in. 138 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 139 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 3: So my question is, Oscar is does this signal a 140 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 3: change of policy in Mexico? 141 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 6: Is this is this a turning point? 142 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 3: Or is Claude Scheinbaum doing this kicking and screaming And 143 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 3: this is kind of going to be a one and done. 144 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 6: What's your prediction, Well. 145 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 4: The Mexican people are going to demand more now if 146 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 4: they have the capacity to execute the mesticio sageta. I'll 147 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 4: mention why you're not going through several states and controlling 148 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 4: these things that they're biling the and critically controlled by 149 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 4: the organized crime and the cart So basically, what the 150 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 4: pressure of the American government it is doing right now 151 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 4: to Mexico is for the Mexican people to demand more 152 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 4: from the Mexican government for them to execute this mission. 153 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 4: If you were precise, and if you you know, we 154 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 4: lost some good ones, we lost some military men on 155 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 4: this mission. But if you went over there and you 156 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 4: executed the mission, why you're not doing that on every state. 157 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 4: So it's going to have an effect on the Senators, 158 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 4: on the opposition, on the Conservatives, on the Christians, on 159 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 4: the Christian you know senators and Christian uh you know, Congressman, 160 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 4: that they are in our country to demand more from 161 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 4: the opposition. 162 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, so, Oscar, that's my question. Because the cartel is 163 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 3: so interwoven with just basic businesses and the hotels and 164 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 3: there's this it's hard to draw a line between official 165 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 3: government business and cartels right, and will the people demand this? 166 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 3: Will the you know, is there popular support for more 167 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 3: action against the cartels and will is there enough will 168 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 3: within the official government structure of Mexico. 169 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely, and it is happening right now. And also 170 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 4: what the Trump administration has done is that the hit 171 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 4: they have given the courage to senators on the opposition 172 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 4: and on the right of Mexico to go and basically 173 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 4: on Congress and on the Senate and expose the left 174 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 4: wing political party and say you're corrupt, you're involved with 175 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 4: the organized crime that Caratel. You know, one of the 176 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 4: things that got viciously exposed is how this criminal organization 177 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 4: has so much control over states and how they have 178 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 4: the audacity to terrorize the citizens and they're still doing 179 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 4: it until this point. So it's basically exposing the you know, 180 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 4: the weaknesses of our government, and the Mexican people know 181 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 4: that right now at this moment. 182 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 6: So do you predict more violence in the days and 183 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 6: weeks to come. 184 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 4: I will not recommend American citizens to travel right now 185 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 4: to several spots and several tourist spots. You know, it 186 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 4: is it's kind of agitated and let just sink in 187 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 4: for the next couple of days over the federal government 188 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 4: to have more control over really rule and difficult in 189 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 4: tough neighborhoods. I believe that it's going to escalate a 190 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 4: little bit. Inner wars are going to happen, and let's 191 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,719 Speaker 4: see who takes charts of this criminal organization. That that 192 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 4: is going to be the next step of how they're 193 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 4: going to fight among each other for territory. 194 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 3: Oscar Ramirez Rabs Border correspondent in Mexico right now. Thank 195 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 3: you so much, Oscar, appreciate it. We'll have you back 196 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 3: on as this story develops. Thank you so much. 197 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for the imitation. 198 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 3: Guys, Absolutely Blake, you had one final thought and I 199 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 3: I just really important. 200 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 5: I just want to close the book on the on 201 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 5: the cartel thing. What was so insane is just the 202 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 5: visual of literal cartel members. They're standing, they're wearing uniforms 203 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 5: with their cars. They have armored cars, armed. 204 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 6: Via rocket launcher, heavy heavy. 205 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 5: Machinery, heavy weaponry, and all I can think is, this 206 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 5: is a country that borders the United States, and we've 207 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 5: had thirty years plus of lots of adventures in the 208 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 5: Middle East where we're often chasing people armed up just 209 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 5: like that. But they're on at least the other side 210 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 5: of the planet. They can't send rocket launchers super easily 211 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 5: to the United States, but. 212 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 6: You know who can the cartels. And we see with them. 213 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 5: Launching this, for lack of a better term, this insurgency 214 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 5: where they're taking over huge chunks of central Mexico in 215 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 5: demonstration of their leader being killed, killing dozens of Mexican 216 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 5: National Guard. It just almost actually strikes me as insane 217 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 5: that we've had so many wars on the other side 218 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 5: of the planet and yet we haven't just said, Okay, 219 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 5: actually we're going to drone strike anyone, like every armored 220 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 5: vehicle that belongs to a cartel, blow it up. 221 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 6: It's just gonna get totally period and trying to play nice. 222 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 5: When Mexico wants to help us, that's great, but if 223 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 5: they don't want to help us, we're going to do 224 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 5: it anyway, because it's not acceptable for there to be 225 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 5: a totally agree gangster actor in a neighboring country that 226 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 5: has armored personnel carriers. 227 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 3: Totally agree all right, well said needed to be said so, 228 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 3: and Charlie, by the way, totally agreed with that. 229 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,599 Speaker 6: It's like if we're gonna use military force. 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Three thirty nine. 256 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 5: Young black kids growing up in the Bronx who don't 257 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 5: even know what the word a computer is. 258 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 7: They don't know, they don't know these things. 259 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 6: Three forty six. 260 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 8: And the other thing we should do is you should 261 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 8: challenge these students. We should challenge students in these schools 262 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 8: to have advanced placement programs. 263 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 2: In these schools. We have this notion that. 264 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 8: Somehow, if you're poor, you cannot do it. Poor kids 265 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 8: are just as bright and just as talent as white kids. 266 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 6: Two fifty The new one. 267 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 7: I'm not you know, I'm not trying to impress you. 268 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 7: I'm just trying to impress upon you. I'm like you, 269 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 7: I'm no better than you. You know, I'm a nine 270 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 7: sixty Sat guy. 271 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 2: Huh. 272 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 6: And you know, and. 273 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 7: I'm not trying to offend anyone, you know, trying to 274 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 7: act all there. If you've got nine forty, but literally 275 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 7: a nine sixty, Sat guy, I cannot you you've never 276 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 7: seen me read a speech, because I cannot read a speech. 277 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 6: All right. 278 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 3: So Gavin Newsom's trying to butt up to the black 279 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 3: community by saying I'm dumb too. 280 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 6: I can't I can't read. This is okay. 281 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 3: This man's gonna run for president in twenty twenty eight, 282 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 3: and I want them to run this this moment on 283 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 3: repeat on the ad. This is the bigotry of low 284 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 3: expectations in living color. I've never seen such a clear 285 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 3: example of that other than the two other clips that 286 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 3: I played before. 287 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 6: I mean, there's so many more. 288 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 5: I remember Hillary Clinton when she was running for president, 289 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 5: she did an appearance in New York and then she 290 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 5: showed up, No, it's the one she showed up and 291 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 5: she said she was on CPT and then they said 292 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 5: it was cautious politician time. But that's obviously it's like, 293 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 5: it's very wild. And all I can think of is, 294 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 5: this is a real study from twenty nineteen. Do you 295 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 5: know about this the Yale study. Yale did a study 296 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 5: of how like the vocabulary that white liberals use and 297 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 5: what they found is, Yeah, white liberals, when they're talking 298 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 5: to black people, they will actually deliberately code switch their vocabulary. 299 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 5: They will basically act like they're talking to children. 300 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 6: They'll get an accent. 301 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 5: And they noticed that white conservaives did not do this, 302 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 5: They just did not change. 303 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 3: Nope, as we expect the same out of everybody. It 304 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 3: is literally the most racist comment in the way. And 305 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 3: then you add on top of all of this that 306 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 3: they don't think black people are smart enough to get id. 307 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 3: It is quite literally the most racist crap that you 308 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 3: will ever hear coming out of the mouths of Democrats. 309 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 3: And they're pandering to them to win their votes by 310 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 3: telling them they're dumb, and yet most of them will 311 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 3: still vote for Democrats. And that's the baffling part of 312 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 3: all this. Here's Charlie reflecting on his time with Gavin Newsom. 313 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 3: Remember Charlie went on Gavin Newsom's podcast, was the first 314 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 3: guest made Lots of News three fifty three. 315 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: He is the fakest person I think I've ever met 316 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: in my entire life, so synthetic and honestly, that's very dangerous, 317 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: like incredibly dangerous. Like he's the type of person that 318 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: could just like scare Oh yeah, I voted for Trump 319 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: and just like pass a lie detector test. That is 320 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: very very dangt you know, just comp stone cold, just 321 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 1: like no inhibitions whatsoever when it comes the deceit or 322 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:14,119 Speaker 1: lying or misleading. 323 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 3: So Blake, you and I were with Charlie when he 324 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 3: went to that podcast when you interview, or when he 325 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 3: went on Gavin Newsom's podcast, and I'll never forget. We 326 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 3: were driving away and I go, what was your impression 327 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 3: and he goes, Man, that guy wants to be president. 328 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, he always has. 329 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 5: It's really it's really glaring, and it's it's really disturbing 330 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 5: because I've got to say, as much as we make 331 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 5: fun of him here, as much as we made fun 332 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 5: another time. 333 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 6: He deserves it. 334 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 5: You and he deserves it. I don't think you can 335 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 5: escape that feeling like it could happen. This is this 336 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 5: is the dark future of America. Is one hundred percent 337 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 5: that Gavin Newsom could run, be slick enough, have the 338 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 5: right looks, say the right things, and everyone will just 339 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 5: sort of get behind it. It's like he's the politician 340 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 5: utterly without qualities. He hasn't been a great governor of 341 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 5: his state that by any objective measure, it's been a catastrophe. 342 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 6: He big. 343 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 5: He has big headline disasters like burning down a big 344 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 5: chunk of Los Angeles, and then he has the data 345 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 5: driven disasters. 346 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 6: Businesses leave, people leave. 347 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 5: His state is entirely dependent on endless immigration inflow to 348 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 5: from foreign completely from foreign countries to not completely implode, 349 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 5: and they're having you know, they're driving out every billionaire 350 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 5: because they have this wealth confiscation. News says he's going 351 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 5: to vat say that, but yeah, but they can't. Well 352 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 5: that was I think it's a vote amendment. I don't 353 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 5: think he can block it. 354 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 6: If they's he's promised to veto it, we'll see what 355 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 6: he does. 356 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 5: But on top and on top of that, they have 357 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 5: every other problem in the world, and so. 358 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's but he could win. Well, it's interesting. 359 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 3: I got asked to write a piece and I forgot 360 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 3: to tweet it out, actually, but I got asked to 361 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 3: write a piece for the California Post, which is like 362 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 3: the New York Post, but for the West coast. It 363 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 3: was about Charlie what he thought about California, and Charlie 364 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 3: loved California, loved how. 365 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 6: Beautiful it was. 366 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 3: But he would always when you lay in there, he goes, Man, 367 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 3: what a beautiful state. It's a shame what they've done 368 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 3: to it. Every time, that was his first, first first thought, 369 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 3: his first comment. And you know, Gavin Newsom is just 370 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 3: the living embodiment of what incompetent leadership looks like. 371 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 5: The Democrat plan in twenty twenty eight is to run 372 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 5: on making America California, and it's it's going to be 373 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 5: very shameful if we can't beat that pitch. 374 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 3: I am so excited for our next guest. He's a 375 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 3: man that needs no introduction to this audience, but I 376 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 3: will say it anyways. Dennis Prager is one of the 377 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 3: most respected and influential thinkers, writers, and speakers in America. 378 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 3: He's a nationally syndicated talk show host. He is the 379 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 3: founder of Prager University, and is a New York Times 380 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 3: bestselling author of nine books. And he's a man who's 381 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 3: been through a lot. But most importantly to this audience, 382 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 3: as you all know, he was a dear friend and 383 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 3: mentor to Charlie Kirk and Dennis welcome back to the 384 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk Show. It is an indescribable honor to have you. 385 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 2: Oh, I, I'm delighted to be with you. I'm delighted 386 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 2: to be with you because you're you, because it's TPUSA, 387 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 2: and because I'm delighted to be able to speak be 388 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 2: perfectly honest. For those who don't know, I had a 389 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 2: catastrophic fall in my home on November twelfth of twenty 390 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 2: twenty four, which left me paralyzed from the shoulders down 391 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 2: and not breathing without a ventilator and not speaking. And 392 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 2: here I am having an interview with you, so you 393 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 2: can imagine for all those reasons. And finally, I just 394 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 2: might note when I watched the funeral service and other 395 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 2: memorial services for Charlie and I heard all these people 396 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 2: describe themselves as Charlie's closest friends. I I thought it 397 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 2: was a great credit to Charlie. Like kids who think, 398 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 2: you know, they have five kids and each one thinks 399 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 2: that they are the parent's favorite. The parents did a 400 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 2: good job, Charlie did a good job. But I would 401 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 2: just like to remind everybody, or maybe they didn't even 402 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 2: know it, so remind might not be the actual verb, 403 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 2: and that is that his last book on Shabbat, on 404 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 2: taking a day in the name of God up there 405 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 2: to stop in the name of God by honoring the 406 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 2: Sabbath will transform your life, was dedicated to me, Charlie, 407 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 2: a beautiful dedication. Charlie called me, I would say almost 408 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 2: every week for at least five or eight years, and 409 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 2: he he would call after listening to another tape of 410 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 2: mine on the Torah, the first five books of the 411 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 2: Bible with questions, and the whole idea of Shabbat came 412 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 2: from our interactions. So you know, I'm supposed to promote 413 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 2: my book, but there I am promoting Charlie's book. 414 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 3: Well, it's a beautiful, beautiful testament to your guys's friendship. 415 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 3: You shared a deep, deep bond, and we are going 416 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 3: to get to your book, which is titled If there 417 00:21:58,640 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 3: Is No God? 418 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 6: The battle over who defines good and Evil? 419 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 3: And the fact that you're even coming out with a book, Dennis, 420 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 3: is a miracle and a testament to your character and 421 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 3: your fortitude and your strength of will. 422 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 6: But I want to read Erica Kirk's endorsement of the book. 423 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 3: I think it's just so beautiful and It's a bit long, 424 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 3: but I'm going to. 425 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 6: Do it, he says. 426 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 3: This book is a treasure to me. Dennis was more 427 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 3: than a mentor to my husband Charlie. He was a 428 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 3: dear friend and one of the few voices who played 429 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 3: a role in encouraging Charlie's moral courage. The two of 430 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 3: them shared a rare bond, blessed by countless conversations about faith, morality, 431 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 3: and what it means to live with conviction in a 432 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 3: world that has lost its compass. Reading If there is 433 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 3: No God feels like sitting at the table with both 434 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 3: of them again. It carries forward the very message that 435 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 3: both Dennis and Charlie lived and Charlie died believing that 436 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 3: without God there can be no good and without truth 437 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 3: there can be no freedom. 438 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 6: She's beautiful. 439 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it meant the great deal to me that she 440 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 2: would write such a thing in the midst of her 441 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 2: grief and her battling people who want to destroy TPUSA. 442 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 2: I have never encountered something like this effort to hurt 443 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 2: a beautiful institution from people who supposedly are on our side. 444 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 2: It's it's I don't know if it's unprecedented, but I 445 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 2: can't think of a precedent. 446 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 6: Yeah. 447 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 3: Well, you know, I always tell people what God is unleashed, 448 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 3: man cannot stop. And so we walk in great faith 449 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 3: and great courage. And the movement is expanding, it's growing. 450 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 3: Charlie's legacy looms large. I can tell you here at HQ, 451 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 3: but at all the chapters, Dennis, that are exploding. It's 452 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 3: not just you know, we're opening fifty new chapters a day, 453 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 3: but it's they're not just two or three kids. We're 454 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 3: talking ten, fifteen, twenty, fifty kids, one hundred kids. Some 455 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 3: of these chapters are thousands of students large now because 456 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 3: of the life and the legacy that Charlie left behind, 457 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 3: and you are a huge part of that, Dennis. And 458 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 3: one of your most famous questions, which relates to your book, 459 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 3: of course, is the it's a famous one from your 460 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 3: days on the radio. If your beloved dog and a 461 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 3: stranger drowning, who do you say first? This became an 462 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 3: incredibly famous question. It's also sort of a starting point 463 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 3: for this book. 464 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 6: Please explain that's right. 465 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 2: I've actually been asking this question for fifty years. Fifty years, 466 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 2: and the results have been the same throughout those fifty years. 467 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 2: I would ask school students or college students. If they 468 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 2: loved their dogs, which everybody who has one does, and 469 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 2: a stranger were drowning and their dog were drowning, what 470 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 2: would they try to say first? I know that they 471 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 2: would all love to save both and so on, but 472 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 2: they have to try to save one first. And virtually 473 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 2: every instance cut across economic, racial, religious lines. In virtually 474 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 2: every instance, one third of the group said they would 475 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 2: save the stranger, one third said the dog, and one 476 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 2: third didn't know what they would do. Two thirds of 477 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 2: Americans over half a century would not save, would not save, 478 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 2: would not say that they would save the stranger. And 479 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 2: that led me to the the whole supposition of the 480 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 2: book that what they were doing is substituting emotions for values. 481 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 2: I love my dog is an emotion. Humans are created 482 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 2: in God's image, is of value. That's why I would 483 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 2: save a stranger before my beloved dogs. My wife really 484 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 2: loves our dogs. 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This is how Dennis used this problem. 514 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 5: He really looked up to you for moral reasoning like 515 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 5: that and for framing things. 516 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 6: So many things that you would say. 517 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 5: And we would hear him repeat on campuses because you 518 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 5: have that great way of distilling, like that difference, you know, 519 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 5: using emotions instead of values, and the cell differences between them. 520 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 5: I want us to play one of those clips just 521 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 5: to illustrate that we have Charlieu citing you for a 522 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 5: moral question for eighty seven. 523 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: I learned this from the great Dennis Prager, who says, 524 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: stop focusing on intentions, focus on the actions. 525 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 6: It's a much better way to. 526 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: Judge whether or not something is right or wrong intentions. 527 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: As I've said before, and there's a video that went viral, 528 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: the Nazis thought they were doing good. They convinced themselves 529 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: that they were doing good, when in reality they were 530 00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: doing some of the greatest evil in the history of 531 00:28:59,680 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: the speed. 532 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 2: It's very moving to me, obviously, I don't know if 533 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 2: either of you know this. Charlie visited me in my 534 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 2: hospital room and he brought a copy of the Trance 535 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 2: of the of the transcript of his of his book. 536 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 2: Little did I know little It never occurred to me, 537 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 2: of course, that I would not see Charlie again. Uh, 538 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 2: and it broke my heart on every ground. 539 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 3: Well, Dennis, even in the aftermath of Charlie's assassination, you're 540 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 3: your subtitle the Battle over Who Defines Good and Evil? 541 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 3: And you think about I would say, the vast majority 542 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 3: of people reacted as you would expect and hope to 543 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 3: the tragedy and sadness and horror and shock. But there 544 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 3: was some voices that reacted in glee and celebration. And 545 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 3: I can't help but think of your subtitle in that 546 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 3: book as the perfect distillation of why who The battle 547 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 3: of who gets to find good and evil matters so much. 548 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 2: Well, if if man determines humans determined what is good 549 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 2: and evil, then you can have moral inversions where the 550 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 2: Nazis are good are good guys, and the Jews and 551 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 2: others are bad guys. You have that now in the 552 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:46,959 Speaker 2: Middle East, where all of a sudden, the the Nazis 553 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 2: of our time, the true Nazis of our time Hamas 554 00:30:53,280 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 2: are the good guys. They're battling colonialism and Israel a 555 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 2: democracy with one fifth of its citizens are Arab Muslims 556 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 2: who thrive there and who supported Israel by and large 557 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 2: in this war. Israel is the bad guy. We are 558 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 2: living in a morally inverted universe. 559 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 6: Dennis. 560 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 3: I want to ask you a question that you address 561 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 3: in the book. It's called the problem of pain. 562 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 6: As C. S. 563 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 3: Lewis said, you know, how does your book answer the 564 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 3: question of why a supposedly good God allows for so 565 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 3: much suffering and evil in the world. 566 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 2: I've dealt with that all of my life, and I 567 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 2: have so much to say on it. I'll try to 568 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 2: be concise, all right. First of all, people need to 569 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 2: deal with that issue before tragedy strikes in their life. 570 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 2: If you start thinking about that question, we only once 571 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 2: you've been hurt. It's too late. I, for whatever reason, 572 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 2: was preoccupied with the problem of evil from my high 573 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 2: school days, so I have I dealt with it before 574 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 2: I was personally hit by the tragedy that I am 575 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 2: currently living, all right, and therefore I already had answers people. 576 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 2: I'll give you a great example. A woman called my 577 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 2: radio show many years ago said, you know, I just 578 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 2: want you to know Dennis that I always vehemently disagree 579 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 2: with you on capital punishment. I was opposed to capital 580 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 2: punishment and you were ardently for it. Well, I've come 581 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 2: around now to your point of view. I'm for capital punishment. 582 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 2: And I said why. I said, because my brother was murdered, 583 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 2: So of course I offered condolences. But then I said 584 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 2: what needed to be said that, I said to her, 585 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 2: wait a minute, so when millions of other people's brothers 586 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 2: were murdered, you never asked the question. And she agreed 587 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 2: she had never asked the question before. This is a 588 00:33:54,280 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 2: common flaw in the human species. We deal with issues 589 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 2: only when we are confronted by them. You've got to 590 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 2: deal with these issues way before you're hit by them. 591 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 2: I did. Why. Way of dealing with it is through 592 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:26,240 Speaker 2: reason and religion. The greatest combination there is Judeo Christian 593 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:35,800 Speaker 2: religions and reason, and that is that God allows evil 594 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 2: to take place because we would be robots. Otherwise life 595 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 2: would lose its meaning people would no longer be a 596 00:34:51,560 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 2: free species. So that has to happen. And as regards UH, 597 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 2: a natural uh evil if you will, cancer of the 598 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 2: of the of the undeserving, you're right, that's we don't 599 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 2: have an answer to that. I've read book after book 600 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 2: by theologian after theologian. There's no great answer to the 601 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 2: to the question. And uh therefore uhh we h. We 602 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 2: have only jobs. The answer at the end of job 603 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 2: where God says, where will you when I created the world? 604 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 2: Do you know why eagles make nests? In other words, 605 00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:02,800 Speaker 2: were we're like puppies uh as compared to human beings 606 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 2: in our ability to understand life when we compare ourselves 607 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 2: to God. We don't know the answer, but I will 608 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 2: say I do believe that there's bad luck. Most religious 609 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 2: people differ with me, but I think God. In my case, 610 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 2: God allowed gravity to and lack of friction to take 611 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 2: its course. Well, what was he supposed to do stop 612 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 2: it from happening to me? And I wrote this stuff 613 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 2: decades before what happened to me. 614 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 5: It's remarkable. And I know one thing I think about. 615 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,240 Speaker 5: I know Charlie had wanted to do his Sabbath book 616 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 5: even before your accident. I know he was planning it, 617 00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 5: but I also recall after it occurred. I know that 618 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 5: really motivated him to make sure that was his next 619 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 5: book that he would work on, and it moved him 620 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 5: to complete it quickly. I don't know if that offers 621 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 5: some solace to you or not, but I think I 622 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,399 Speaker 5: know Charlie drew some inspiration. He really wanted to get 623 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 5: this Dennis inspired book because he knew, you know, maybe 624 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 5: you wouldn't recover, and he wanted to make sure that 625 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,280 Speaker 5: he would have be able to carry on your legacy 626 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 5: as well with his own work. And now I know 627 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 5: none of us expected this, but we're glad that I 628 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 5: guess you could return the favor. You are continuing Charlie's legacy. 629 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 5: We're trying to continue Charlie's legacy. 630 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 6: What happened? 631 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:38,359 Speaker 2: Ye And I dedicated my book which is coming out 632 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 2: now if there is no God, to Charlie as it happens, 633 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 2: which I would have done anyway, but now it was 634 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 2: to Charlie's memory, which I still to this day. I 635 00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 2: find that almost is unbelievable as my my paralysis. Charlie 636 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:13,919 Speaker 2: Kirk is dead. I it's this vibrant, incredibly young man. 637 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 3: It's I know, yeah, it's a it's a reality that 638 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 3: we confront every day. And we still have his seat 639 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 3: open here in the studio, Dennis, and we'll never fill it. 640 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 3: And but it's it's a comfort I didn't realize how 641 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 3: comforting it was gonna be for me personally to talk 642 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 3: to you, Dennis, and to see you doing so well. 643 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 3: I didn't know what to expect when I saw you, 644 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,360 Speaker 3: and your mind is as vibrant and as alive as ever, 645 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 3: even if your body's rebelling against you. And this has 646 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 3: been truly wonderful. I wish we could have more time, 647 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 3: and in fact, maybe we'll try for that. But thank 648 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 3: you so much, Dennis Prager for talking about your book 649 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 3: and talking about Charlie with the US today. 650 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 2: I would love another opportunity to talk to you, and 651 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 2: you really you may not be in that chair, but 652 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 2: you're filling the seat beautifully, Dennis. And finally, I just 653 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 2: ask your listeners and viewers to order a copy. Yes, 654 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 2: If there is No God, it will change lives everybody. 655 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 3: Please go get a copy today of Dennis's incredibly important 656 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 3: new book, If there Is No God, The Battle over 657 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,720 Speaker 3: Who Defines Good and Evil? Get it today everywhere books 658 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 3: are sold. Dennis Prager, God bless you and we'll talk. 659 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 6: With you soon you too. 660 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 2: Thank you. 661 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 6: For more on many of these stories and news you 662 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 6: can trust. Go to Charliekirk dot com.