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Speaker 2: All Right, welcome, Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. Our
Speaker 2: two is underway. We are joined in studio by the
Speaker 2: voice you just heard, Pastor Andrew Sedra. You are lead
Speaker 2: pastor of Echo Church in Sydney, Australia.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the socialist gay Islamic state.
Speaker 2: And so that's my first question. Is Australia fake and gay?
Speaker 3: It is very gay, very liberal, very nice. We have
Speaker 3: very good coffee down there.
Speaker 2: Beautiful weather, beautiful beaches. Yeah, a beautiful like, a beautiful people,
Speaker 2: a beautiful culture. And you've got the Australian Open happening
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 4: And that's the saddest thing about it, though, is if
Speaker 4: you take Australia, you could say, this big country is
Speaker 4: basically perfect, it's not overpopulated, has endless natural resources, everyone
Speaker 4: can live like times.
Speaker 5: But then they thought, how could we mess this up?
Speaker 4: Why don't we Well we're going to talk about that here.
Speaker 5: Why don't we import problems?
Speaker 2: Well we have we listen, We've got whatever problems Australia has,
Speaker 2: maybe not proportionally per capita, but we have just as
Speaker 2: many and millions more. So I want to start with
Speaker 2: a provocative question here though, because you are a pastor
Speaker 2: and we will get to Australia in just a second.
Speaker 2: But the left is turning Alex Pretty and Renee Good.
Speaker 2: You're you're aware of these stories into martyrs. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: believe Charlie is a martyr. He's a Christian martyr, He's
Speaker 2: a freedom of speech martyr and American martyr. What is
Speaker 2: the difference between let's say, an activist that does something
Speaker 2: stupid gets themselves into a situation. Maybe the cops, maybe
Speaker 2: it wasn't the best shot. I'm willing to concede that ground,
Speaker 2: but they obviously were provoking and they were obstructing law enforcement.
Speaker 2: What's the difference between a martyr and a jihadist?
Speaker 3: The reality is a jihadas dies for the sake of
Speaker 3: his political agenda, and like Charlie Cooke died for faith, family, freedom.
Speaker 3: It was very clear boundaries and reality. He didn't die
Speaker 3: trying to stop a police. He didn't try die trying
Speaker 3: to shoot a police. He didn't try try to obstruct law,
Speaker 3: force and order. He died for faith. He was literally
Speaker 3: proclaiming his faith a few minutes before a a resurrection
Speaker 3: of Jesus Christ. He died for freedom. You could clearly
Speaker 3: see that shirt. He literally got shot while speaking, and
Speaker 3: he died for family. That's kind of the most controversial,
Speaker 3: But the problem is we have at the moment, because
Speaker 3: people have lost a moral conscience, we are putting all
Speaker 3: things together and creating all the things with that actually
Speaker 3: realizing what did the actual person die for. We need
Speaker 3: to actually understand, and they died for believing the world
Speaker 3: there's this big, happy, safe space where there's no nations,
Speaker 3: there's no boundaries, there's no borders, which if you're a Christian,
Speaker 3: you can't really believe that. We do believe in boundaries
Speaker 3: and nations. So we really have to look at the
Speaker 3: cause and the because of the martyrdom in order to
Speaker 3: understand and more than anything, what was happening the moment
Speaker 3: they got murdered. Charlie Kirk was literally speaking in a
Speaker 3: microphone trying to debate his ideas. Those people are doing
Speaker 3: crazy things, creating complexity in an already volatile space. So
Speaker 3: we do need to teach people to gain the moral conscience.
Speaker 3: Because you're so even with George Floyd, like George Floyd
Speaker 3: with a criminal committing a crime, he died in the
Speaker 3: process of being committing a crime. How do you put
Speaker 3: Charlie and George Floyd or the people that were like
Speaker 3: black lives matter, but there was very controversial for them
Speaker 3: to speak about Charlie Kirk's death. It makes you one
Speaker 3: that it's like people need to really recalibrate the moral
Speaker 3: conscience and definitions in order to alyze what is the
Speaker 3: matter and what is the jehadiest. And we have now
Speaker 3: the gay jeheardest, the immigration jihadist, that aslam as you
Speaker 3: have every type of jehardiest.
Speaker 2: And by the way, just because the reason I framed
Speaker 2: it that way for people who aren't familiar with your
Speaker 2: background is you specialize in calling out the dangers of Islam.
Speaker 2: So give your backstory in why that is a central
Speaker 2: message for you. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So, I grew up in the Islamic world of Egypt
Speaker 3: under soft sharia lah so Shari AlOH is. I think
Speaker 3: it's in every single Islamic state in the whole entire world,
Speaker 3: the fifty four of them, they have shari AlOH so.
Speaker 3: Unlike what conservatives will tell you chari alo is a conspiracy,
Speaker 3: I wish it was. That's not. That's why I literally
Speaker 3: my family escaped the Islamic world of Egypt because of
Speaker 3: aposticity laws and because of blasphemy laws.
Speaker 2: True story.
Speaker 4: I visited Egypt and I found a book in a
Speaker 4: bookstore in Luxer and it was some professor and it
Speaker 4: is very beautiful, and a professor argued it was a
Speaker 4: book he wrote arguing that Egypt showed the model way
Speaker 4: for Christians and Muslims to coexist. But I guess you
Speaker 4: probably wouldn't agree.
Speaker 3: With him co exist co exists. Well, when Islam says peace,
Speaker 3: they mean war. When they say equality, they mean Islamic supremacy.
Speaker 3: And Islam says freedom, they mean tyranny. That's why them
Speaker 3: on the left, they're like the best buddies to get married.
Speaker 3: You know, Chris for Palestine, Gates for Gaza, or you
Speaker 3: can see now.
Speaker 2: The Red Alliance.
Speaker 3: It's perfect because both of them lose use language to
Speaker 3: not communicate but to manipulate. So they're going to use
Speaker 3: your language, your vocabulary, your ideology. Like for example, this
Speaker 3: is one of the most controversial things people say American
Speaker 3: Muslim as someone who escaped the Islam with quilt, saying
Speaker 3: American Muslim is an auxymorn. It's like saying trans woman
Speaker 3: a woman, or start saying men can get pregnant. America
Speaker 3: is about life, liberty and the positive happiness. Islam is
Speaker 3: about death. Tyranny and jihad, that is in conquering and conquering,
Speaker 3: which so the big question I think we have at
Speaker 3: the moment coming from the Middle East. So I escaped
Speaker 3: Islam to the Western world to come here to find
Speaker 3: them rising, taking over and running a propaganda campaign. Islam
Speaker 3: means peace. I'm like, what don what am I here
Speaker 3: to begin with? And I think this is kind of
Speaker 3: my warning to America, particularly the conservatives that are unable
Speaker 3: to actually understand what's happening in the Islamic world. The also,
Speaker 3: American America is an exceptional country, but make sure American
Speaker 3: exceptionalism doesn't become American narcissism. Where you look at Israel
Speaker 3: or the Middle East, or all the Islamic world through
Speaker 3: the lens of christen them. You have to look at
Speaker 3: Islam through the lens of Islam, not project your American
Speaker 3: lovey dovey like Joish Boyce did. We're gonna free Iraq,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do it. Muslims don't want freedom in Iraq.
Speaker 3: The problem you have. You want their freedom, they don't
Speaker 3: want them. So even if you remove whatever Islamic cycular dictator,
Speaker 3: they're gonna vote for a worse dictator.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, this is this idea of tabula rasa right
Speaker 2: where where all of humanity are blank slates. Their culture
Speaker 2: that they were steeped in as a kid no longer matters.
Speaker 2: We can make them, you know, lovers of democracy, We
Speaker 2: can spread democracy. And the lesson of the twenty first
Speaker 2: century is that that is a giant, huge propaganda lie.
Speaker 2: You're being gas lit to think that people, their culture
Speaker 2: and their religions do not matter, that they can be
Speaker 2: assimilated into a Western frame of reference and a frame
Speaker 2: of mind. No, and this is actually I would say,
Speaker 2: I'm still working this out, but you know, Charlie, I
Speaker 2: think had it completely worked out. The West is Christendom.
Speaker 2: The West is Christendom. So when you look at who
Speaker 2: you want to come into your country, if you are
Speaker 2: a Western nation, even if you are not a believer,
Speaker 2: even if you hate Christianity, you are blessed by the
Speaker 2: culture of Christianity, by our laws, by the customs, by
Speaker 2: the turns of phrases, by our language, by everything about
Speaker 2: this culture that you love is undergraded by a Christian heritage.
Speaker 2: And so please, freedom is fundamentally is a Christian concept.
Speaker 2: It's not a gay concept. It's not a liberal concept,
Speaker 2: it's not an American concept. It's fundamentally a Christian concept.
Speaker 2: The Bible said, and you'll know the truth, and the
Speaker 2: truth will set you free. There is no coincidence why
Speaker 2: America and the Western world are the only nations with
Speaker 2: that dictators. The Buddhist world is not free, the Islamic
Speaker 2: world is not free, the pagan world is not free.
Speaker 2: The communist, godless government worshiping world is not free.
Speaker 3: America. You have to understand what makes you is Christendom.
Speaker 3: So the problem we have at the moment we are
Speaker 3: importing people from the Islamic world that believe in Qur'an
Speaker 3: Sharia law, and no matter how moderate of a Muslim
Speaker 3: you are, you still don't believe in freedom. So Egypt,
Speaker 3: there is a very moderate Muslim country, like you don't
Speaker 3: just get killed on the street. But we have apostici
Speaker 3: laws which are designed if a Muslim become the Christian,
Speaker 3: they go to jail for five thair years. That's also
Speaker 3: in Qatar, that's also in Saudi Arabia today Arabia actually.
Speaker 5: But Christian can become a Muslim easily.
Speaker 3: Exactly because all about Islamic supremacy. When ISLAMI say freedom,
Speaker 3: they mean tyranny. When they say equality, they love to
Speaker 3: use that word. He Ilan Omar and the Somalian crowd
Speaker 3: nine arms and Muslim they mean Islamic supremacy. So no
Speaker 3: matter where you go and the whole entire world, freedom
Speaker 3: is fundamentally a Christian concept. Charlie cooknailed it. Islam will
Speaker 3: be the sword that he literally posted that one day
Speaker 3: from and I do think America needs to re recalibrate
Speaker 3: that so you don't lose Land of the Free and
Speaker 3: Home of the brave.
Speaker 4: It's so bizarre because you look at the Middle East
Speaker 4: and Islam's is declining in some of those countries, and
Speaker 4: then the fundamentalism is rising in the West, and you
Speaker 4: start straight up feels like they've exported a lot of
Speaker 4: fundamentalists and you'll hear the worst preachers in London, not
Speaker 4: in Riod.
Speaker 5: Necessarily, it looks.
Speaker 2: Like the man was charged for rushing Representative Ilhan Omar
Speaker 2: and took a syringe and sprayed her with apple site.
Speaker 4: I did get a kick out of the idea where
Speaker 4: we should have the federal government investigate this as an
Speaker 4: attack on a federal lawmaker and then take it very
Speaker 4: seriously and see if anything else comes out. But I
Speaker 4: suspect it's exactly what it looks. I suspect, And that's
Speaker 4: that's my favorite phrase anyway. But we have a great clip.
Speaker 4: We were just talking about how the West is Christendom,
Speaker 4: even basically everyone in the West is a Christian, even
Speaker 4: the atheists, and if they don't realize it or they
Speaker 4: don't like it. But Charlie has a great clip on this.
Speaker 4: Let's play four sixty nine.
Speaker 1: The spiritual battle is coming to the West and the
Speaker 1: enemies are Wokeism, re Marxism combining with Islamism to go
Speaker 1: after what we call the American way of life. And
Speaker 1: the American way of life is very simple. I want
Speaker 1: to be able to get married, buy a home, have kids,
Speaker 1: allow them to ride their bike till the sun goes down,
Speaker 1: send them to a good school, have a low crime neighborhood.
Speaker 1: Not to have my kid be taught the lesbian, gay,
Speaker 1: transgender garbage in their school.
Speaker 2: While also.
Speaker 1: While also not having them have to hear the Muslim
Speaker 1: call to prayer five times a day.
Speaker 5: That's important.
Speaker 1: We want the American way of life, which is by
Speaker 1: the way, Christendom.
Speaker 5: He said it that away.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I know, I know it, and you know,
Speaker 2: you look, you got to look back at the last
Speaker 2: days of Charlie Kirk and realize that I believe, you know,
Speaker 2: God numbers are days, so God knew even though we're
Speaker 2: all still adjusting to this brave new world. But God knew,
Speaker 2: and I just I know that God was speaking to him,
Speaker 2: and I know that God was raising like almost like
Speaker 2: the final battle lines of probably the rest of this century.
Speaker 2: That's what I believe.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you can see that clearly in the mock
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Speaker 2: So this concept that you know, like I said, God
Speaker 2: numbers our days. God knew, and I believe God was
Speaker 2: speaking to Charlie, and Charlie was focusing on the rise
Speaker 2: of Islam. And you mentioned that haunting tweet where he says,
Speaker 2: you know Islam is.
Speaker 3: That was the day before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a prophetic pig. Yes, what is to happen? Crazy. Secondly,
Speaker 2: he was talking about this fork in the road, Mangionism
Speaker 2: and momdanniism versus Maga maga right, And so please expound
Speaker 2: on that because you see this in Australia as well.
Speaker 3: It's happening that socialist, liberal, godless left could not really
Speaker 3: shift and change the culture as they wish, so they
Speaker 3: had to import the votes from the end of the world.
Speaker 3: They found a perfect alliance between Islam and socialism, between
Speaker 3: violent Islam and godless leftism, and that unholy alliance is
Speaker 3: a friend. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Speaker 3: We can clearly see Zaharambibtani is an Muslim who is
Speaker 3: queis for Palestine, whose gates for Gaza, where if you
Speaker 3: take those gates to Gada, there will not be a
Speaker 3: life for very, very long. But that alliance hinges on
Speaker 3: the reality Islam and godless leftism. It hates Christianity because
Speaker 3: it hates freedom. It hates freedom, and that is the
Speaker 3: reason it hates America.
Speaker 4: And it hates success. And it's so resentful at how
Speaker 4: great of a country America has been, how great the
Speaker 4: West has been. And that's kind of, I think, the
Speaker 4: great thing that binds them together when they have so
Speaker 4: many rational reasons to hate each other. It's this resentment
Speaker 4: driven ideology. Why does Islam despise the West. Islam sees
Speaker 4: itself as a warrior religion. It's founded in warfare. Muhammad
Speaker 4: is a warrior. The early Muslims are worse, and they win.
Speaker 4: They went over and over except in Europe. Well they didn't,
Speaker 4: but they made it. They spread all over the world overnight.
Speaker 4: It's easy you can understand how they would say God
Speaker 4: must have done this because we conquered, and then for
Speaker 4: the last six hundred years they've just been getting wrecked
Speaker 4: over and over again. They fell behind. So they're very
Speaker 4: upset about this. And it's the same way that this
Speaker 4: is why they hate Israel so much. Is Real just
Speaker 4: beats them in every conflict. Ever, yes, and better science
Speaker 4: and a better society they fight better.
Speaker 2: So yeah, sorry, And.
Speaker 4: So that's the Islamic calf And then you have the
Speaker 4: Marxist half, which is that it's like, it's that classic
Speaker 4: bio Leninism thing. It's a lot of people they're they're resentful.
Speaker 4: Why am I not in charge of things? Why am
Speaker 4: I not super wealthy? Why do I have to have
Speaker 4: a job and work there? It's this screaming rage of
Speaker 4: people who see a like functional middle class family and
Speaker 4: they can't handle.
Speaker 5: It and they go off the deep end.
Speaker 2: It just occurred to me the humility of a capitalist system,
Speaker 2: the humility that is willing to say, we are not
Speaker 2: going to try and engineer the results that we understand
Speaker 2: hierarchies are inevitable, right that we understand. You know, people
Speaker 2: born at the same position with the same parents are
Speaker 2: going to end up in difference. If you don't work
Speaker 2: you don't eat.
Speaker 3: As Winston Churchill said, socialism is a gospel of empty
Speaker 3: and I love Charlie's favorite forwards, earn it. Capitalism is
Speaker 3: the gospel of earn it. If you don't work, you
Speaker 3: don't eat. The Bible said a man who doesn't work
Speaker 3: and doesn't proved for his family, he is worse than
Speaker 3: an unbeliever. But that's a problem. People want results with
Speaker 3: that work. They want the fruit without the pathway. So
Speaker 3: you end up with this very utopian gospel, the gospel
Speaker 3: of socialism. And dude, you guys need to look at
Speaker 3: Australia because we're socialists. We're socialists all the way, So
Speaker 3: you don't need the thing is about America. You don't
Speaker 3: need to trial stuff. You already have Europe, you already
Speaker 3: have UK, you already have friends, and you already have Sydney.
Speaker 3: So Sydney where the second most expensive, our first world
Speaker 3: country state to live in in the whole entire world.
Speaker 3: We're more expensive of the Hong Kong. So in Australia
Speaker 3: we have two hundred and seventy five acres per person.
Speaker 3: So it's a lot of land. As you said, we
Speaker 3: are very resoltful. We have uranium, We have cobalt, we
Speaker 3: have minerals, we have everything in the whole entire world
Speaker 3: that we literally have now a socialist government. It's literally
Speaker 3: sucking up the economy. Drive The average house is thirteen
Speaker 3: point five the average wage. So in order for you
Speaker 3: to buy a house in Australia you need thirty years
Speaker 3: to say.
Speaker 5: For that, why can't you? I feel like Australia should
Speaker 5: be able to build houses. It seems like they have space.
Speaker 3: Socialism is ugly. So the difference between US and in
Speaker 3: America after World War Two, we took the welfare state road.
Speaker 3: America took the capitalism, free market, work hard, make it happen,
Speaker 3: Wall Street Journal, New York paradoxical and office run by socialists.
Speaker 3: Now you guys took the hard work road. We took
Speaker 3: the welfare state, big government, socialists also in England and
Speaker 3: now where at the end of it, you can't build anything,
Speaker 3: you can't do anything, you can't buy a house. The
Speaker 3: fuel here is everything in America is very chain.
Speaker 2: We get taxed.
Speaker 5: The big topic here is affordability and enfold.
Speaker 2: But we get tax too, though really bad because no,
Speaker 2: but it's but it's then okay, But if you're in California,
Speaker 2: then you might have another If you're the top bracket,
Speaker 2: you might have another thirteen percent. So essentially and then America,
Speaker 2: I think that what there is really bad is the
Speaker 2: sense that your taxes go to services you one percent
Speaker 2: can't use. So if you're in a huge portion of America,
Speaker 2: you pay a large amount of taxes for public schools,
Speaker 2: and the public schools are functionally unusable to you if
Speaker 2: you are a responsible parent, and then you pay the
Speaker 2: double tax of off in private schooling. Yeah, well or
Speaker 2: but by the way, that's beyond uh, your income tax.
Speaker 2: That is a property proper text. And then you have
Speaker 2: property tax on top of income tax or state taxes.
Speaker 4: To subsidize public transport that you feel is unsafe to
Speaker 4: use or an never mind all the you know, Infinity
Speaker 4: Somali diagcare is Infinity Artism Centera.
Speaker 3: We have that stuff a love at Australia. Everything is
Speaker 3: for free. It's it's nuts. But this is a reality.
Speaker 3: And that's where Christen then provide the framework. If God
Speaker 3: asks people for ten percent of the income, how did
Speaker 3: the government ask for thirty to fifty percent? This is
Speaker 3: why the more America drives away from Christendom, the more
Speaker 3: taxation you will have. Godlessness produces atheism, Atheism produces Darwinism.
Speaker 3: Darwinism in politics becomes socialism because you need to help
Speaker 3: the little monkey that can't help himself. Because the big guy,
Speaker 3: the big corporate guy, is the lion that's controlling the jungle.
Speaker 3: So we kind of need to make the system equitable.
Speaker 3: So the reality is the more America goes away from church,
Speaker 3: the more taxation you're going to have, and the more
Speaker 3: governmental unethical and moral spending. And while watching the in Australia,
Speaker 3: the less church attendance Australia it's five percent. In America,
Speaker 3: the more people, the less people go to church, the
Speaker 3: more taxes we get. There is a correlation between socialism
Speaker 3: and atheism, Christianity and low taxation because in Christianity will
Speaker 3: believe in self government, individual liberty. It's your money. If
Speaker 3: you don't work, you don't eat. We believe that we
Speaker 3: want families to own homes, We want young people to
Speaker 3: build wealth. The Bible stead a godly person leaves inheritance
Speaker 3: for the generation. We don't want to tax people's wealth.
Speaker 3: We want families that work hard to build their wealth.
Speaker 3: Pass the legacy from generation to generations. So the reality
Speaker 3: is we need a recalibration of our economical philosophical system
Speaker 3: to realize if God asks for ten percent, I believe
Speaker 3: anything beyond ten percent from government theft.
Speaker 2: I totally agree. I totally agree. And I think what
Speaker 2: we've seen, especially with the Somali frad rings, is that
Speaker 2: the more you bloat your government, the more you grow it,
Speaker 2: the more bad actors are gonna come in and they're gonna,
Speaker 2: they're gonna builk you, They're gonna they're gonna the graph
Speaker 2: will just grow and increase. And I mean, I completely
Speaker 2: agree with the less church, the more socialists. It's a
Speaker 2: complete correlation. By the way, the less church, the less children,
Speaker 2: the less marriages, the less you know, businesses. Candidly, so
Speaker 2: I'm with you one hundred percent. So I wanted to
Speaker 2: keep you just a little bit longer here, Andrew, because
Speaker 2: you know Pastor Andrew Cedra, by the way, pastor out
Speaker 2: of Sydney, which is really really fun. You guys close
Speaker 2: with Charlie Iran. Tell us what you know about Iran,
Speaker 2: because there's I mean, we're hearing reports that there's like
Speaker 2: tens and tens of thousands of dead protesters.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Iran is a very interesting case study, and
Speaker 3: I think America needs to watch it very closely because
Speaker 3: you had the gay socialist Communist Alliance and not THEEN
Speaker 3: seventy nine mixed with Islam, so you literally have does
Speaker 3: a Hara mem Donnie moment.
Speaker 2: So that was not the EN seventy nine.
Speaker 3: You had the very weak president Jimmy Carter, who ended
Speaker 3: up supporting their revolution, and before you know it, Iran
Speaker 3: went from a secular gay state like New York to
Speaker 3: and we'll land state. So Iran it's one of those
Speaker 3: very sad, horrific cases of a reasonably free, prosperous nation
Speaker 3: falling into Islamic jihad only fifty years ago. Now Iran,
Speaker 3: it's again it's different from the Middle East because it
Speaker 3: has been Muslim only for fifty years, so Islam is
Speaker 3: there by power top down, but at the bottom they're
Speaker 3: not fully there yet. So it's different to Egypt. Egypt
Speaker 3: became Muslim in six hundred eighty, so it has been
Speaker 3: Muslim for fourteen hundred years, so seventy to eighty people
Speaker 3: in Egypt want Sharia law. So you want to if
Speaker 3: George Bush wants the free Egypt people are not interested.
Speaker 3: It's like when you gave Gazan the freedoms to vote
Speaker 3: and they voted for Hamas, It's like, what the heck?
Speaker 3: That was the first and last election they ever had.
Speaker 3: So Iran isn't that. It's a very technical spot. It's
Speaker 3: very strategic from a warp ofv because if it becomes
Speaker 3: more free, you kind of have more power in that region.
Speaker 3: China is very connected to Iran. It really is the access,
Speaker 3: the all the power across the region. So I think
Speaker 3: it's a very complicated one. I would love Iran to
Speaker 3: be free, but you got the Islamic jihadist, you got
Speaker 3: the communists, the communist regime somewhere there. Like if you
Speaker 3: tomorrow kill that guy, the main guy, and you destabilize
Speaker 3: the region, we don't actually know who's going to rise.
Speaker 3: But then you also have the underground josh which is
Speaker 3: growing and it.
Speaker 2: Is by the way, I just just spent time with
Speaker 2: the pastor that's doing street evangelism there and he said,
Speaker 2: after Charlie died, it's like they're all lions. They were
Speaker 2: so bold, like lions going out in the street in Iran,
Speaker 2: and we have to we have one minute left and
Speaker 2: I gotta we gotta switch over. I just want to
Speaker 2: give you a toime.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So so you got that mixed mixed with the current
Speaker 3: young people revolting. They want freedom again, Americans. You're building
Speaker 3: mosques in New York and Florida and in Texas. Look
Speaker 3: what's happening over there. Yeah, that Islamic dictator is killing
Speaker 3: thousands of people, and you need to understand it's cold blood.
Speaker 3: People have been protesting free palaceline, free plastline, free free
Speaker 3: palast time. I'm like, dude, Iran has killed at least
Speaker 3: the same people not in war against as citizens in
Speaker 3: three weeks, and to be conservative, tenk k, it's probably
Speaker 3: way more than that. But I think Iran is a
Speaker 3: warning to America we need to deal with Islam and socialism. Yeah,
Speaker 3: because it was not theen seventy nine, it's not the
Speaker 3: ancient world and secondary quickly. Yeah, we need to pray
Speaker 3: for Iran. It breaks my heart coming from that world
Speaker 3: watching people fight for the freedom.
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Speaker 2: students that have joined us. We have Hailey, Ron Canyon,
Speaker 2: del Pro Club American President, Emma Arms, University of Tennessee,
Speaker 2: Knoxville President Edward. I'm gonna say this wrong, Bokey. I
Speaker 2: believe Minnesota Connection Academy and inver Hills Community College and
Speaker 2: Caroline Maddox, University of Georgia President. Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: To our students. Hello there, hey, thank you. It's going great.
Speaker 2: So listen. We like to do these segment and it's
Speaker 2: from time to time because hearing from students is really important.
Speaker 2: Get your perspective on where you're at, what you're thinking,
Speaker 2: what you're seeing. So I'm gonna start with Edward. This
Speaker 2: is a Minnesota Connection Academy at Inver Hills Community College.
Speaker 2: You know a lot of the news right now is
Speaker 2: about ice, It's about DHS Minneapolis, Minnesota. Tell me what
Speaker 2: your thoughts are on you know it would be Alex
Speaker 2: pretty so's he's packing firearm. He initiates an altercation, a
Speaker 2: confrontation of some sorts with law enforcement. Do you think
Speaker 2: that's a good idea? What are kids saying? What are
Speaker 2: you thinking?
Speaker 7: Well, thank you Andrew for having me on. I really
Speaker 7: appreciate and I appreciate the question. Simple answer, it's a
Speaker 7: terrible idea to start an altercation with firearm on you.
Speaker 7: I recently turned eighteen. I've been carrying every day since that,
Speaker 7: since my birthday, and I am never going to pick
Speaker 7: a fight with law enforcement with my firearm on me.
Speaker 7: It's a terrible idea in the first place, because these
Speaker 7: people are the good guys. They are the ones preserving
Speaker 7: the cohesion of our society and upholding law and order,
Speaker 7: and those are not the people that you should be
Speaker 7: starting an altercation with. It's going to be degratory to
Speaker 7: the cohesion of our republic. But then you add to
Speaker 7: that the betrayal of your Second Amendment liberties by putting
Speaker 7: law enforcement in a situation where they have to treat
Speaker 7: you as a greater threat given you have a firearm
Speaker 7: and you're attempting to and actually creating a escalated physical altercation.
Speaker 7: It's a terrible idea all around. And I was disappointed
Speaker 7: to see that Alex pretty absolutely has a Second Amendment
Speaker 7: right to keep and bear arms and a First Amendment
Speaker 7: right to peacefully assemble, and you can exercise both those
Speaker 7: rights together. He betrayed those liberties by starting an altercation
Speaker 7: with those law enforcement officers.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 4: So I want to throw a question here to Haley.
Speaker 4: First of all, thank you for coming on. I know
Speaker 4: you have to be it can be very nerve wracking
Speaker 4: because you're you're the high schooler here. So you're at
Speaker 4: Canyon del Oro in the Tucson in Tucson, the Tucson area,
Speaker 4: and I'm told you've been seeing anti ice walkouts in
Speaker 4: your Is it in your school itself? You can tell me,
Speaker 4: and then that there's been I guess just describe the
Speaker 4: environment in a high school setting right now regarding ice,
Speaker 4: regarding walkouts, regarding immigration generally.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so our school personally has not had a walkout yet,
Speaker 8: but there's definitely, like in a lot of other schools,
Speaker 8: those have happened just around Tucson and Arizona themselves, and
Speaker 8: then especially at my school, Cdo We just got Club
Speaker 8: America approved and it's been a big issue at school
Speaker 8: and everything. Just things are super heightened, and I think
Speaker 8: a big issue right now just with high school students
Speaker 8: is a lot of it people are trying to frame
Speaker 8: it as civic engagement when really it's more a lot
Speaker 8: of what they're doing is just activism without any understanding.
Speaker 8: So a lot of people are seeing this Club America,
Speaker 8: this Instagram post that we posted just welcoming a new club,
Speaker 8: letting people be aware that this is happening, and just
Speaker 8: the amount of just rude, uneducated hate comments DMS I've
Speaker 8: gotten just the gossip around school of what's going on.
Speaker 8: It's these people haven't even given it a chance. They
Speaker 8: don't even know really what this is about. We haven't
Speaker 8: even had our first meeting yet, and all these people
Speaker 8: are just giving so much hate and they just don't
Speaker 8: even really most of them are not even educated. They
Speaker 8: don't even know what's going on. And so I think
Speaker 8: that's just been a big issue. Is a lot of
Speaker 8: just teachers and staff as well, just kind of empowering
Speaker 8: these students, framing it, manipulating it as like civic engagement
Speaker 8: when really I just think it's just activism without you understanding.
Speaker 4: So is it just is there any Is the school
Speaker 4: just overtly endorsing this? Are the teachers all overtly endorsing it?
Speaker 4: What's the I guess for lack of beaterum, what's the
Speaker 4: propaganda environment like within your school?
Speaker 8: Yeah, So I definitely a lot of issues that even
Speaker 8: came with starting Club America was actually through the teachers.
Speaker 8: There were a lot of teachers who I had conversations
Speaker 8: with that are just we're not on board with this
Speaker 8: and are telling our students just that this is not
Speaker 8: this is like a hateful thing that's going on. It's
Speaker 8: not something that we should be having. So a lot
Speaker 8: of it definitely starts with our staff and starts with
Speaker 8: our teachers and just not even giving us as students
Speaker 8: our own voice and our own opinion, but just shutting
Speaker 8: it down because they're in a position of authority and
Speaker 8: a lot of students, like us, we rely on those
Speaker 8: teachers for grades and we have future ahead of us
Speaker 8: for college, so we really don't want to upset the
Speaker 8: people who are kind of hold that authority over us.
Speaker 8: So I think a lot of students are just following
Speaker 8: what the staff, what authority is telling us. And so yeah,
Speaker 8: just mainly with the staff just not allowing us just
Speaker 8: thinking it's a terrible thing. I know, Tucson Unified School
Speaker 8: District even just sent out a message the superintendent saying
Speaker 8: that they may have to cancel school tomorrow because too
Speaker 8: many teachers are calling out for this protest against ice.
Speaker 8: Just things like that where it's like, really, we have
Speaker 8: no control over what's going on because they hold the position,
Speaker 8: they hold the authority at our schools.
Speaker 2: Hayley, I'm so you know, I'm bummed out to hear that.
Speaker 2: I'm sad for you but I'm proud of you as well.
Speaker 2: I'm very proud of you, So keep up the good
Speaker 2: fight and keep your courage. But I want to throw
Speaker 2: it to pass Andrew Cedric, maybe just give her a
Speaker 2: word of encouragement as they're facing this pushback.
Speaker 3: You guys are amazing. You guys are fighting the good fight.
Speaker 3: Your guys are leading by conviction and courage. Just like
Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk will leave in a moment of time. Well,
Speaker 3: the Left doesn't multiply in the bedroom. They multipplying the classroom.
Speaker 3: They always do, and it is very encouraging watching you
Speaker 3: guys tend for your faith, tend for your freedom, and
Speaker 3: actually be like Daniel Shadrock Michigan a Bendigo, have faith
Speaker 3: in the midst of a culture were young people are
Speaker 3: fundamentally indoctrinated. Good job, you gott are going to be
Speaker 3: very amazing leaders that would change the world. The fact
Speaker 3: that you're able to go against the grain, not go
Speaker 3: with the next social justice hype, it means that you
Speaker 3: have the potential and the anointing and the gift and
Speaker 3: the character to lead this nation to a very very,
Speaker 3: very great player. So I want to encourage you, and
Speaker 3: I do think we need to kind of we need
Speaker 3: an investigation across the West to the indoctrination of young
Speaker 3: people because it's well, it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2: We've we've observed, you know, in the wake of Charlie's assassination,
Speaker 2: and we've seen it now some comments made about Stephen
Speaker 2: Miller about ice agents. It's public school teachers and nurses
Speaker 2: and sometimes doctors. I don't know what it is, but
Speaker 2: these as just a lot of them. There's two professions.
Speaker 2: There's just Yeah, you might just be a sheer numbers
Speaker 2: numbers game.
Speaker 3: The liberal empathy nurturing of woman I top of roles
Speaker 3: going in the wrong direction to think that your kid
Speaker 3: is their kid. Yeah, it's like I want my kid
Speaker 3: to learn math and science, not gay agenda, immigration and politics.
Speaker 3: Then that's why I think Charlie was murdered because he
Speaker 3: was literally changing the mind. Yeah, I want to agenda.
Speaker 4: I want to loop in our other two chapter heads
Speaker 4: here or I believe they're both chapter heads. I don't
Speaker 4: so Caroline or Emma here, either of you can take this. Uh,
Speaker 4: you guys are on college campuses. We saw last year
Speaker 4: there was a big swing of young people more towards
Speaker 4: sympathy towards Megator's President Trump, towards the message Charlie was selling.
Speaker 4: We also see some evidence in the polls there might
Speaker 4: be a swing back. They're very mercurial, and so either
Speaker 4: of you can take this. What is the environment you're
Speaker 4: seeing on campus, both overall and within more conservative spaces.
Speaker 4: How are those students reacting to it? Do they seem
Speaker 4: braver than you might have expected. Are they getting intimidated
Speaker 4: like they might have been a few years ago.
Speaker 9: I don't think there's a lot of intimidation here in
Speaker 9: tennis See. Luckily enough, we are a primarily conservative campus
Speaker 9: at the University of Tennessee, and most of Tennessee also
Speaker 9: is read throughout. We don't see ICE officers being shot
Speaker 9: in Nashville. We're actually seeing dropping numbers of murders in Memphis,
Speaker 9: and that's mainly because we are a state that's not
Speaker 9: a sanctuary state. We're not accepting migrants from illegal migrants
Speaker 9: to stay and exist in our state illegally. So the students, however,
Speaker 9: have overwhelmingly let me know that they do not support
Speaker 9: having illegals in our country. They are fully in supportive ICE.
Speaker 9: We do sometimes see some students who sort of stay
Speaker 9: behind the screen that would promote you attacking ICE. But
Speaker 9: we haven't seen anything in Knoxville or the Greater Tennessee
Speaker 9: area that would prove that.
Speaker 2: And it's so Caroline as well, right University of Georgia,
Speaker 2: So we've got Knoxville and Georgia. I love it.
Speaker 10: Athens is a little bit of a different scene right now.
Speaker 6: I think we're seeing a lot of walkouts from classes,
Speaker 6: a lot of protests in the downtown area. Students are
Speaker 6: not taking well to seeing in Minneapolis right now at all.
Speaker 10: We have a lot of support for.
Speaker 6: ICE as a club in general, but outside of the club, there's.
Speaker 10: Not a lot of support for ICE on this campus
Speaker 10: at all.
Speaker 2: So what prop like, what are what messages are they hearing?
Speaker 2: Where are they getting this information? Maybe just filling some
Speaker 2: of the gaps there? What's influencing these these people?
Speaker 6: It seems like most of the information is coming from
Speaker 6: misinformation on social media. They see the clip video, they
Speaker 6: don't see the full video. They see kind of what
Speaker 6: they want to see instead of actually seeing and learning
Speaker 6: and educating themselves and.
Speaker 10: Doing the research. I think we've also painted this picture
Speaker 10: of ICE for them. Our other people have.
Speaker 6: As this super evil organization that's ripping children from their
Speaker 6: homes and ripping families apart, and that's just.
Speaker 10: Not the case.
Speaker 6: And I think we really have to do a better
Speaker 6: job of edging people and what ICE actually is and
Speaker 6: what they're actually doing. But I mean, the scene here
Speaker 6: is really discouraging. But I would say there's so much
Speaker 6: support on campus for Charlie's legacy and a lot of
Speaker 6: people have really started to want to get involved after
Speaker 6: the passing of Charlie Kurr.
Speaker 10: And it's truly inspiring and there's.
Speaker 6: A lot of work here to do, but I'm really
Speaker 6: glad to be at the forefront of it and really blessed.
Speaker 2: Let's go around the horn really quick. I want to
Speaker 2: start back with you, Edward and just if Okay, we've
Speaker 2: got this is a midterm year, so you know I'm
Speaker 2: going to talk politics, but this is your personal opinions.
Speaker 2: Is not C three stuff, but personal opinions. So you're
Speaker 2: on campus, if you had a word for the administration
Speaker 2: heading into the midterms or candidates that are running, what
Speaker 2: are young kids, what do they care about on your campus?
Speaker 2: What could the conservative movement do better? Right now?
Speaker 7: Awesome? Well, thank you for the question. I think from
Speaker 7: what I've seen and the people that I'm associating with,
Speaker 7: it goes back to James Carville. It's the economy, stupid.
Speaker 7: We want to make sure that the economy is strong
Speaker 7: going into midterms, and then that's that's pretty much the
Speaker 7: biggest issue going into midterms that students want to.
Speaker 2: So it's makes sure strong. It's jobs. Yeah, when you
Speaker 2: graduate kind of thing, internships, opportunities, feel like your degree
Speaker 2: is going to matter kind of.
Speaker 7: There's some worry about the AI bubble and the potential
Speaker 7: for greater inflation moving into midterms.
Speaker 2: So if we could.
Speaker 7: Put some assurance surrounding the federal reserve and taxation and
Speaker 7: making sure that inflation is going to remain low, those
Speaker 7: are the core points that students on campus in Minnesota
Speaker 7: that I've interacted with are worrying about right now.
Speaker 2: Hayley, what about you high school student? What's uh going
Speaker 2: into the midterms? What's the vibe?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I wouldn't even say really that a lot of
Speaker 8: our students are even educated enough to really care. I
Speaker 8: think a lot of the things that they're talking about
Speaker 8: are just like things that they're just hearing on the internet.
Speaker 8: But I would say right now in high school especially,
Speaker 8: it is just immigration like what we've been seeing recently,
Speaker 8: and just how a bunch of us younger students who
Speaker 8: may not be as educator just rejecting law enforcement. And
Speaker 8: I guess how we can kind of push back on
Speaker 8: that and how we can be educated on you know,
Speaker 8: that we can be in support of legal immigration and
Speaker 8: then also recognize that fighting against law enforcement is not
Speaker 8: the right thing to do and that interfering with them
Speaker 8: doing their jobs is only going to create this chaos
Speaker 8: that we're seeing, and that really these shootings that are
Speaker 8: happening are not just one sided, and that's something something
Speaker 8: is going on behind the scenes to kind of affect
Speaker 8: what's going on in the immigration.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good insight. That's a really good insight.
Speaker 2: So Caroline, you're at the University of Georgia and you
Speaker 2: said there's all these like walkouts and a lot of
Speaker 2: anti ice energy. I mean, do they remember Lake and
Speaker 2: Riley at the University of Georgia? Is are you still
Speaker 2: some person that people are talking about there? Because I
Speaker 2: wonder how they square that circle.
Speaker 6: That's exactly the question a lot of us are asking
Speaker 6: right now at turning point. They're actually organizing a five
Speaker 6: K with some other groups on campus. I think it's
Speaker 6: called Run for Your Life. It's going to be an
Speaker 6: awesome event. I believe it's on February twenty first, but
Speaker 6: it'll definitely be on our socials if anyone's interested in that. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I really don't know. I'm in shock also. I mean,
Speaker 6: I don't know how we go from seeing a girl
Speaker 6: basically my age be viciously murdered by an illegal immigrant
Speaker 6: in our own city, and then now we're supporting people
Speaker 6: doing this kind of thing to ice agents who are
Speaker 6: just trying to protect our country and protect citizens of America.
Speaker 10: And I think, especially as a woman, seeing that happened
Speaker 10: to someone.
Speaker 6: My age, it's frightening, and I think we should be
Speaker 6: in support of people who want to keep us safe
Speaker 6: from that kind of thing. And I really think that
Speaker 6: our campus is just in a real mess and we
Speaker 6: have a lot of work to do still.
Speaker 4: All right, now, Yeah, your last what's the what is
Speaker 4: dominating the midterm vibes among young people in Knoxville.
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, kind of, like Edward said, talking about the economy,
Speaker 9: but more specifically affordability for housing and buying homes. I'm
Speaker 9: actually graduating in the next semester and looking into the
Speaker 9: near future, it kind of seems impossible to achieve that
Speaker 9: American dream of being a homeowner. And I think that
Speaker 9: that's a deeper issue than a lot of people might
Speaker 9: realize on the surface, because you have all these young
Speaker 9: people in America who don't have they don't own anything,
Speaker 9: they don't have steak in anything, and I think that
Speaker 9: makes it difficult to really feel like you have ownership
Speaker 9: in your country, that you're an actual citizen of your country,
Speaker 9: and to be proud of your country when you feel
Speaker 9: like everything is being taken by different different taken from
Speaker 9: your hands, different ways. I also think that that also
Speaker 9: impacts the family, the nuclear family. You can't raise three
Speaker 9: kids in an apartment. It's just not ideal. So it
Speaker 9: does make it harder for people to start families, continue
Speaker 9: growing our country. So it is a debris that people realize.
Speaker 2: Emma, I think that's great, And I just wanted to say,
Speaker 2: if you're just graduating, you do have a little time
Speaker 2: to you know, on the on the home buying and
Speaker 2: the and then starting to get but don't panic, yeah,
Speaker 2: don't panic yet, but the but but your concern is legitimate,
Speaker 2: and it's and it's well, it's well made.
Speaker 3: President Drum just passed a very awesome bill, a law
Speaker 3: a few days ago where he banned big corporation institutionally buying.
Speaker 2: Single thing he's aspiring. So that was I'm looking for.
Speaker 2: That's amazing.
Speaker 3: That will free the market for young people.
Speaker 2: Actually well, and Charlie, Charlie talked a lot about an
Speaker 2: economic moonshot for gen Z and that is build five
Speaker 2: ten million new homes, block institutional money, block foreign money,
Speaker 2: make sure that it's open to young.
Speaker 3: Limit immigration so you don't overwhelm the housing market supply
Speaker 3: and demand exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think all of these things are are
Speaker 2: are making We're making good progress, but we're not there yet.
Speaker 2: And I think these concerns that you guys are voicing
Speaker 2: are are apt and they're really they're really important. It's
Speaker 2: stuff Charlie talked about. By the way, Blake, I don't
Speaker 2: know if you have a follow up here, but.
Speaker 4: I mean, I wish we had a little more time
Speaker 4: because I'd love to poke more at that AI thing,
Speaker 4: because I'm very fascinated by how young people relate to
Speaker 4: artificial intelligence.
Speaker 2: You remember, you remember the last time we did one
Speaker 2: of these. It was all about h one bees. Do
Speaker 2: you guys talk about h one bees within the club
Speaker 2: or within with on in the chapter.
Speaker 7: For Minnesota specifically, and at my chapter, I know that
Speaker 7: we still discuss that, We still discuss the avenues of
Speaker 7: legal immigration.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what about the ladies in the in the panel,
Speaker 2: because the last time it was it dominated our conversation.
Speaker 9: I think we definitely have a mixed there's there's mixed
Speaker 9: views on whether we should be having more or having
Speaker 9: less or just leaving it the same, because there are
Speaker 9: pros and cons of course to both. But I hear
Speaker 9: a lot of different things from different students. It just
Speaker 9: kind of depends to mix.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ai, AI is going to be I think about that.
Speaker 4: A friend of mine he just said that kids at
Speaker 4: the campus is that he works on a Christian ministry
Speaker 4: there and he says they need AI to tell them
Speaker 4: what questions to ask in class. And that concept had
Speaker 4: not occurred to me until I heard that, and it filled.
Speaker 3: Me with.
Speaker 2: The lack of critical thinking skills though that that AI
Speaker 2: could give rise to is terrifying.
Speaker 4: Just why we need all of you guys. We need
Speaker 4: to we need to fight against groupthink on campus. Uh
Speaker 4: we made progress last year, but it does, it roars
Speaker 4: back over and over again.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: So we thank all of you for standing guard in
Speaker 4: the permanent vigil for liberty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you guys, Thank you for making the time.
Speaker 2: And as you hear more about walkouts as well, Hayley,
Speaker 2: we want to hear about those because in Phoenix here
Speaker 2: it's just it's going crazy. So not a good sign.
Speaker 2: Not a good sign. All right. God bless you guys,
Speaker 2: and stay safe and stay vigilant. And we thank you
Speaker 2: for all of your great service at Turning Point chapters
Speaker 2: across the country. And Pastor Andrew Cedra, thank you for
Speaker 2: spending the whole hour with us. Thank you, thank you,
Speaker 2: what a blessing. For more on many of these stories
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