WEBVTT - Steve Hilton vs. the California machine

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<v Speaker 1>As many of you know, I used to live in California.

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<v Speaker 1>I lived in California until twenty sixteen. This very day,

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<v Speaker 1>I was sitting with another ex California and we were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about how wonderful it was to live in California

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<v Speaker 1>in the eighties and the nineties, back in the days

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<v Speaker 1>of Duke Major and Pete Wilson and now it's gone

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<v Speaker 1>to hell. And we began talking about the debate that

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<v Speaker 1>was held earlier this week. So I thought we would

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<v Speaker 1>try and get a hold of one of the participants

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<v Speaker 1>of the debate, Steve Hilton, and Steve is here to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the debate, so that I don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>worry about equal time rules.

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<v Speaker 2>We're talking about the debate here.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a news event, so I'm allowed to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>him about it, Steve, you crushed it in the debate.

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<v Speaker 2>First tell me just a technical matter. What do you

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<v Speaker 2>make of the moderators.

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<v Speaker 1>I liked Alan, but I have never worked with his

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<v Speaker 1>colleagues from CNN Caitlyn.

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<v Speaker 3>I honestly thought it was a good I thought it

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<v Speaker 3>was good. Here's why they actually let us debate. They

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<v Speaker 3>weren't so insanely kind of fussing about their rules and

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<v Speaker 3>minute here, and they let us actually challenge each other,

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<v Speaker 3>and that leads to a better outcome. Obviously, you can't

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<v Speaker 3>have a complete free for all, but I thought of

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<v Speaker 3>all the ones that we don't, we had another one

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<v Speaker 3>last night, which was much more, if I could put

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<v Speaker 3>it this way, micro managed by the moderators, and ends

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<v Speaker 3>up actually resulting in a worse outcome, because a debate is,

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<v Speaker 3>as the word suggests, a back and forth, and if

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<v Speaker 3>you don't allow us to challenge each other, then you

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<v Speaker 3>don't get the benefit of that. So I enjoyed that debate,

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<v Speaker 3>and they you know long, you know, two hours long,

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<v Speaker 3>But you can get into all the issues and have

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<v Speaker 3>a proper back and forth.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I have done enough debate that they got to

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<v Speaker 1>get organic. If you get in the way they step

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<v Speaker 1>on the lines where it matters. It seemed to me

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<v Speaker 1>that you were in command. Did you miss any shots

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<v Speaker 1>where you thought there was a knockout blow at say

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<v Speaker 1>jab arbusera or you're in first place.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that you need a knockout blow.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's right. I mean, I think there was

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<v Speaker 3>one's you know, But Sarah is a target rich environment.

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<v Speaker 4>You.

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<v Speaker 3>He's got a bunch of corruption scandals, he's got a

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<v Speaker 3>terrible record in every job that he's done. But the

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<v Speaker 3>thing that I actually was looking forward to pointing out

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<v Speaker 3>to his face and we didn't really get the chance

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<v Speaker 3>to do it, is all the unbelievably negative things that

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<v Speaker 3>are being said about his competence by his own former

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<v Speaker 3>colleagues in the Biden administration. And there's more of it

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<v Speaker 3>just today being published where you have Biden administration officials

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<v Speaker 3>coming out one after another saying that Sarah was the

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<v Speaker 3>most useless cabinet secretary, totally incompetent. They look at his

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<v Speaker 3>rise in this governor's race, and apparently this is the

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<v Speaker 3>story that came out today. They show this is Biden's people,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're passing around these polls with Bessarah moving up.

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<v Speaker 3>They're saying, is this a joke? That's the word that

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<v Speaker 3>they use. They can't believe that this guy is being

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<v Speaker 3>taken seriously, So we do. I think there is one

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<v Speaker 3>more debate. I think there's one next week. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if it's going to be broadcast statewide, so perhaps

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<v Speaker 3>I'll get a chance then. But I mean, he's exactly

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<v Speaker 3>what we don't need in California. Thirty six years career politician,

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<v Speaker 3>He's done nothing but be a politician. He's a total

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<v Speaker 3>puppet of this failed and corrupt Democrat regime in California,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's the living embodiment of exactly what we don't need,

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<v Speaker 3>which is more of the same.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what surprises me about this, Steve Hilton?

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<v Speaker 1>You are in first place and right behind you are

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<v Speaker 1>a Bussarah followed by Tom Steyer, followed by Katie Porter.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the bland, the unlikable, and the toxic. It's I

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<v Speaker 1>had threesome that you would never want to golf with.

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<v Speaker 1>But Tom Steyer has got one hundred million dollars he's.

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<v Speaker 2>Pouring in there. What's he doing with it?

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<v Speaker 1>How can he not be in second place after one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred million dollars of spending.

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<v Speaker 3>You know it's it's actually more. I mean the numbers

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<v Speaker 3>keep going up. It's now one hundred and sixty million

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<v Speaker 3>dollars he's spent just in the last few months. You

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<v Speaker 3>basically can't escape his ads anywhere you go. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think you've got to that point now where it's saturation,

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<v Speaker 3>Like how much more can we take of this? It's

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<v Speaker 3>one of my go to, you know, joke lines. When

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<v Speaker 3>I'm on the on the campaign trail doing our town

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<v Speaker 3>halls and you sort of mention Tom's tires ads, everyone

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<v Speaker 3>just groans. Even Javier Besser actually had his campaign put

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<v Speaker 3>out a nice ad there's a good, good joke where

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<v Speaker 3>they just had shots of Redwood forest and yosemitee and

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<v Speaker 3>beautiful California nature scenes and saying, we just want to

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<v Speaker 3>give you a break from tom Stars ads. It's just

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how he could throw another one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and sixty million if he wants, but I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>how far it's going to get him. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>he's not just more of the same, he is worse.

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<v Speaker 3>He's more left wing, more extreme on climate and taxes

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<v Speaker 3>and spending and immigration, and crime than what we've got now. So,

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<v Speaker 3>as I said in the debate the other night, if

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<v Speaker 3>you think it can't get worse than Gavin Newsom and

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<v Speaker 3>what we have now, I have two words for you,

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<v Speaker 3>Tom Steier.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I agree with you about that, and he's welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to come on the show anytime. He just doesn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to show up. The one fella I'm surprised by, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm friendly with, Antonio Viergosa. He kept me in a

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<v Speaker 1>slot on the California Arts Commission forever. I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>afraid to fire me because I had a radio show

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<v Speaker 1>at the time. But he's nowhere. He's like the nowhere man.

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<v Speaker 1>Did he have any sparkle at all in the debate?

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're a candidate not a commentator, but you're fair.

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<v Speaker 1>Did he have any juice?

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<v Speaker 3>No? I mean I like Antonio actually, And to be fair,

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<v Speaker 3>he is definitely less extreme than the other Democrats, particularly

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<v Speaker 3>on climate and energy, where he's not implacably hostile to

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<v Speaker 3>California oil and gas production. He's also been pretty good

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<v Speaker 3>on challenging the teacher unions on schools policy. But he's

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<v Speaker 3>not really he hasn't he hasn't broken out his main

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<v Speaker 3>role in the last two debates has been incredibly aggressive

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<v Speaker 3>attacks on Javier Basera over his record, and so he did.

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<v Speaker 3>He definitely got more attention Antonio Villa Ricosa last night

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<v Speaker 3>because he really went after Javier, and I suspect he'll

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<v Speaker 3>be doing more of that in the remainder of the campaign.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't I don't see him going anywhere at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let me move from the commentator part of the candidate.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to figure out why you're leading in an

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<v Speaker 1>overwhelmingly blue state and you're a newcomer.

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<v Speaker 2>What is it that you're leading with? Is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it housing? Is it affordability? Is it getting the

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<v Speaker 1>homeless people out? What are you leading with? Well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>actually I can tell you one word.

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<v Speaker 3>If you can see my my sort of backdrop here

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<v Speaker 3>you these are the banners we take on the road

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<v Speaker 3>for our town halls and the and the one just

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<v Speaker 3>here at the top of that you can't quite see.

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<v Speaker 3>It says hell affordable. I have it says hell affordable.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's the theme. And it's three dollars gas, cut

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<v Speaker 3>your electric bills in half, your first one hundred grand

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<v Speaker 3>tax free, no more free health care for illegal immigrants,

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<v Speaker 3>so we can lower healthcare cost for you a home

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<v Speaker 3>you can afford to buy. And that simple practical message

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<v Speaker 3>is what I think people are responding to. The other

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<v Speaker 3>thing I would just tell you is I think that

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<v Speaker 3>they're responding to the fact that I've been working really

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<v Speaker 3>hard for this. I've been traveling the state and really

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<v Speaker 3>going out there, meeting people, listening to people. We do

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<v Speaker 3>twnholes all over the state, and I think people really

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<v Speaker 3>can see from that that there's an energy here and

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<v Speaker 3>we don't have to put up with what we've got

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<v Speaker 3>in California. In a way, we're trying to overcome that

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<v Speaker 3>inertia that after sixteen years of Democrats running everything, this

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<v Speaker 3>assumption that well, you're just always going to be like

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<v Speaker 3>this and your only choice is to put up with

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<v Speaker 3>it or to leave. And the whole point of my

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<v Speaker 3>campaign is to show the kind of energy that will

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<v Speaker 3>make people believe that actually change is possible, and it

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<v Speaker 3>really is because the ballots are out, the choices in

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<v Speaker 3>people's hands, the ballots have been sent out, were voting

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<v Speaker 3>has begun, and everyone watching in California, listening in California,

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<v Speaker 3>you can change the trajectory of our state it's only

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<v Speaker 3>you can vote, and you can do it, and you

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<v Speaker 3>put me in the top two. That's the first step

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<v Speaker 3>so that I can take on whoever the Democrats send.

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<v Speaker 3>I really believe that we can turn things around in

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<v Speaker 3>California because people are sick of what we've got and

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<v Speaker 3>the argument for change is overwhelming.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk to former California. It's really one question of despair,

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<v Speaker 1>and people despair of it getting better because there's gridlock

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<v Speaker 1>in Sacramento and super majorities of Democrats and billionaire taxes

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<v Speaker 1>on that's the dumbest tax in the world. Even Gavin

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<v Speaker 1>knows it's a dumb tax. Where's your strength? Is it

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<v Speaker 1>the Central Valley? Is it San Diego, Orange County? Up

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<v Speaker 1>in the North Way, North Stampa? Where's your strength?

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's everywhere, and it's more democratic. It's working

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<v Speaker 3>class Californians and small business owners, the people who've been

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<v Speaker 3>really hurt. I just really noticed that when I'm on

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<v Speaker 3>the road, the kind of people that come up to

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<v Speaker 3>you and say we're with you. You've got to win.

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<v Speaker 3>It's regular working class people who just can't take it anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>And the other reason, I just think it's very important

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<v Speaker 3>to be aware of a big change in California this

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<v Speaker 3>year that should give us grounds for optimism. You mentioned

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<v Speaker 3>the billionaires tax. This insane wealth tax idea that is

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<v Speaker 3>completely unconstitutional and unworkable, has already cost us billions of

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<v Speaker 3>dollars of lost tax revenues. Many people have left the state.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's also woken up the business community in a

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<v Speaker 3>serious way where You've had to my frustration. Actually, for

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<v Speaker 3>many years now, serious business leaders, the tech community and

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<v Speaker 3>others across the state have kind of stood by and

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<v Speaker 3>not been engaged as the state's drifted further to towards

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<v Speaker 3>insanity in the hostile business climate. They've even gone along

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<v Speaker 3>with it. Many of them have supported Democrats for is

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<v Speaker 3>that's all changed. They are really engaged. And the reason

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<v Speaker 3>that matters is that I think that when I'm in

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<v Speaker 3>the top two and it's me against a Democrat, we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to have the business community supporting my campaign and

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<v Speaker 3>giving us the resources we need to have a fair

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<v Speaker 3>fight against the unions for the first time in at

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<v Speaker 3>least twenty years.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I hope to host a conversation between you and

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<v Speaker 1>whoever comes in second very quickly. In ten second on

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<v Speaker 1>AX you or Steve Hilton X. What's the website for

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<v Speaker 1>your campaign?

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<v Speaker 3>Steve Hilton four Governor dot com fo R, Steve Hilton

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<v Speaker 3>for Governor dot R.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great to be with you. Thank you, Steve. Stay

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<v Speaker 2>turned the Salem New Channel America. Welcome back America and

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<v Speaker 2>to hew it.

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<v Speaker 1>There are reports of explosions over islands off the coast

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<v Speaker 1>of Iran at this hour. Details as they occur will

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<v Speaker 1>produce those for you. I'm joined now by the chairman

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<v Speaker 1>of the Senate Intelligence Committee and the chair of the

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<v Speaker 1>Senate Republican KAKA Senator Tom Cotton of Arkansas. Senator Cotton,

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<v Speaker 1>have you heard any about those reports or it's just

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<v Speaker 1>the Wall Street Journal that I'm reading?

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<v Speaker 2>Good?

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<v Speaker 4>Could be back on with you. I've not heard anything

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<v Speaker 4>other than unverified media reports like you, so I suggest

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<v Speaker 4>that we wait and see, but also would point out

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<v Speaker 4>that the President has been very clear on what his

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<v Speaker 4>red lines are with Iran, not just for the last

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<v Speaker 4>week or months, but for ten years or more, and

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<v Speaker 4>iron rewise to heed those red lines. But they have

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<v Speaker 4>underestimated him before.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I spoke with the President on Monday and he laid

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<v Speaker 1>down very firmly that no nuclear weapons, no highly enriched geranium.

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<v Speaker 1>They've got to have inspections of their missile program, some

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<v Speaker 1>kind of limit, and they're out of money anyway, so

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<v Speaker 1>they won't be providing funds to terrorist organizations.

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<v Speaker 5>It's been that clear from the beginning. Why all this.

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<v Speaker 2>Struman dang about the the deal.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, he has been clear from the beginning. He and again,

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<v Speaker 4>these are not complicated or even difficult demands. If Iran

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<v Speaker 4>didn't want to be bombed backed at Stone age, they

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<v Speaker 4>could simply say to the United States, here you go,

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<v Speaker 4>here's all the enrich you yearning. Please come take it

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<v Speaker 4>off our hands. Here's the remaining centrifuges and spare parts

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<v Speaker 4>and the machines that make more of them. We want

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<v Speaker 4>the bombing to stop, and we want the sanctions to

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<v Speaker 4>be lifted. There doesn't really need to be negotiations over

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<v Speaker 4>commitments or mutual understandings or assurances or anything else. That's

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<v Speaker 4>what President Obambas settled for now. Donald Trump has already

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<v Speaker 4>gone far beyond what Barack Obama did, because we destroyed

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<v Speaker 4>their nuclear program and we leveled much of the nuclear infrastructure.

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<v Speaker 4>But if Iron wants to take the final step again,

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<v Speaker 4>it's not a complicated step. There's a bunch of stuff

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<v Speaker 4>that they have possession of that they can turn over.

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<v Speaker 4>There's no need for mutual assurances or understandings.

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<v Speaker 1>Center again, open source only. Well, how do you assess

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<v Speaker 1>the status of the IRG, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard after

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<v Speaker 1>six eight weeks punishment?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, we pummeled them, Hugh, and we pulverized much of

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<v Speaker 4>them their war making capabilities. They obviously steal or largely

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<v Speaker 4>calling the shots. But that means that the regime in

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<v Speaker 4>Iran is even less legitimate now than it was three

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<v Speaker 4>months ago, Hugh. They don't even have the small, the

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<v Speaker 4>near of religious authority that the Supreme Leader gave them

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<v Speaker 4>for several decades. Now that his son is in charge,

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<v Speaker 4>nominally in charge, not genuinely in charge. I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>he didn't even want his son to be in charge,

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<v Speaker 4>which is why I sometimes for him is Fredo Hamini.

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<v Speaker 4>So they're definitely clinging to power, but I think it

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<v Speaker 4>is clinging. They're not firmly in power because they know

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<v Speaker 4>that the United States and Israel at any point could

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<v Speaker 4>renew our campaign to totally overize all of their all

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<v Speaker 4>the pillars of their regime's power.

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<v Speaker 2>So one last question before I go to politics.

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<v Speaker 1>I asked the President about the artech and whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not that is for the benefit of the steelers fans

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<v Speaker 1>the standard Iranian army. They've got an army that's not

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<v Speaker 1>in the IRGC, and he said they've been leaving it alone,

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<v Speaker 1>that they're not trying to let it be in order

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<v Speaker 1>that the country have some cohesion. Is that consistent with

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<v Speaker 1>what you've seen in open sources, that the artech exists

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<v Speaker 1>and could actually maybe move.

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<v Speaker 4>In It is fair? He would say that the Revolutionary

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<v Speaker 4>Guard Corps cud's force, the besiege militia, those are the

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<v Speaker 4>shop troops of the revolutionary regime has been a central

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<v Speaker 4>target of our and especially Israel's campaigns. Obviously, we've struck

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of conventional military targets, like their integrated air

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<v Speaker 4>defenses and their long range missiles, because we needed to

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<v Speaker 4>protect ourselves, protect our friends in the region, protect our

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<v Speaker 4>pilots flowing over Iran. But we have prioritized the shock

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<v Speaker 4>troops of the revolutionary regime. I think it's fair to say.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the President does like to say we've sunk one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty nine ships. He tells it to me,

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<v Speaker 1>He tells it to everyone he speaks to. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think he does that for a reason. That's quite a

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<v Speaker 1>significant tactical success. That's a strategic victory, but it's a

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<v Speaker 1>tactical success to find and sink one hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>nine ships.

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<v Speaker 2>Has that sunk in in American media.

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<v Speaker 4>Well know, Hugh, because the media and the Democrats, although

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<v Speaker 4>I repeat myself, are rooting against America. And every day

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<v Speaker 4>you see a new store in New York Times or

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<v Speaker 4>on about how Iran has America and Israel right where

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<v Speaker 4>it wants us. I don't know about you, Hugh, but

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<v Speaker 4>if you put yourself in the leadership in Tehran shoes,

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<v Speaker 4>it doesn't seem that way. All of their friends have

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<v Speaker 4>been killed. They're afraid of being killed. They're afraid to

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<v Speaker 4>turn on their phones because they think a mom is

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<v Speaker 4>going to drop on them the minute they do. There

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<v Speaker 4>maybe is sunk to the bottom of the sea. They

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<v Speaker 4>have no air defenses left, and we vastly degraded their

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<v Speaker 4>missile and drones as well as their manufacturing capabilities to

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<v Speaker 4>replace those things. It doesn't exactly look like a victory

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<v Speaker 4>to meet, Hugh. That's just what the Democrats in the

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<v Speaker 4>media want to spend both.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, I want to switch to politics.

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<v Speaker 1>You were an infantry man before you became a congressman,

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<v Speaker 1>then a senator, and you're in the army. Graham Platner

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<v Speaker 1>has been both the marine and an army. He did

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<v Speaker 1>his tours like you did in Iraq and Afghanistan. But

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<v Speaker 1>he is implied in his explanation of his death heead skull.

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<v Speaker 1>That's an SS death head skull tattoo. Oh, that was

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<v Speaker 1>the military. That was the culture I came out of. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you actually commanded platoons. Was that the culture that you commanded?

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<v Speaker 4>Fair to say that I knew more than a few

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<v Speaker 4>infantrymen who had tattoos, more than a few who had

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<v Speaker 4>lots of tattoos. I don't recall any of them having

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<v Speaker 4>any Nazi symbology, especially of a specifically notorious death guards

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<v Speaker 4>at concentration camps. I will make this observation, Hu though

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<v Speaker 4>about the soldiers I knew with tattoos. I don't personally

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<v Speaker 4>have one, but every tattoo they had, they could tell

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<v Speaker 4>you exactly where they got it, and when they got it,

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<v Speaker 4>and why they got it and what it meant. And

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<v Speaker 4>in my experience, that's what anybody who has a tattoo

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<v Speaker 4>can do as well. In fact, Hugh, I remember on

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<v Speaker 4>one of the very first days of our basic training,

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<v Speaker 4>our drill sergeant walked into our bay and he threw

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<v Speaker 4>a bunch of forms on the ground that was to

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<v Speaker 4>describe the tattoos you had, and he said, if you

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<v Speaker 4>have a tat if you don't have tattoos, right in

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<v Speaker 4>a if you do, show it where it is in

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<v Speaker 4>the body, and describe it, and just describe what it

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<v Speaker 4>looks like. Say it's a dragon on my shoulder. Don't

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<v Speaker 4>give me one thousand words on the entire combined topology

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<v Speaker 4>behind it. And that's because people who have tattoos, especially

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<v Speaker 4>young soldiers, love to tell you about the deep mythology

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<v Speaker 4>or story behind every single one of their tattoos. So

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<v Speaker 4>no one should believe Graham Platner about his tattoo, or

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<v Speaker 4>for that matter, about anything else, since he is a

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<v Speaker 4>total fraud, a fake oyster man, a silver spoon liberal

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<v Speaker 4>who has held these radical views since he went to

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<v Speaker 4>a prep school that costs seventy thousand dollars a year.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you're going to campaign for Senator Collins up

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<v Speaker 1>north A quick question. I noticed that both Senator Collins

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<v Speaker 1>and Senator King. She's a Republican, he's an independent who

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<v Speaker 1>caucuses with the Democrat.

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<v Speaker 2>They're both on the Intel Committee.

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<v Speaker 1>Does any other state have two senators on the Intel Committee.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know about that.

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<v Speaker 6>You.

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<v Speaker 4>We obviously make the decisions independently between the two parties.

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<v Speaker 4>I will say that Senator Collins has been an exceptional

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<v Speaker 4>member of the Intelligence committe. She is very serious about

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<v Speaker 4>our national security. She's been a great partner of mine

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<v Speaker 4>for many years in her role as the chair of

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<v Speaker 4>the Approporations Committee and making sure that we're funding our defense,

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<v Speaker 4>that we're investing in cutting edge munitions and drones. And

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<v Speaker 4>the state of Maine who extraordinarily fortunate to have her

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<v Speaker 4>not just as their senator Senator, but a senior leader

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<v Speaker 4>in the Senate.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I hope you get up and tell me that's

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<v Speaker 1>fun about the incantry and your drill Sergeant, Senator Tom

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<v Speaker 1>Cotton always.

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<v Speaker 5>The pleasers to talk to.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Senator.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll be right back on rerec estate to Larry O'Connor.

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<v Speaker 2>Sadly isn't welcome back America.

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<v Speaker 1>As you know here on the Salem News Channel the

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<v Speaker 1>Salem Radio Network, we take our SCC responsibility seriously. And

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<v Speaker 1>I've been known to be a Republican. So we have

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<v Speaker 1>brought to the mornings Democrat Larry O'Connor.

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<v Speaker 2>Democrat O'Connor joins me.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he's bringing your blue tie. Do you notice his

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<v Speaker 1>blue tie. He's telling you he's gonna lie. Now he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna tell you all. I'm a concernative. I knew Andrew

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<v Speaker 1>bright Bard.

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<v Speaker 2>I used to guest host for you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's before he became a creature of the swamp. Larry

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<v Speaker 1>O'Connor used to be. It is now a full fledged

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<v Speaker 1>creature of the swamp.

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<v Speaker 7>You are literally inside the Beltway.

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<v Speaker 1>You're literally a lonely through Uh. Larry O'Conner is now

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<v Speaker 1>our morning guy. He has taken over for Christigall, who's

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<v Speaker 1>being signed. We're gonna ground one thing that christigall is

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<v Speaker 1>being slimmed. But Larry O'Connor, tell people what you were

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<v Speaker 1>doing now and where you're doing it from, because this

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<v Speaker 1>is the great breakthrough. Washington gets a strong voice with

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<v Speaker 1>a strong signal in the morning, which they need.

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<v Speaker 7>It's it's so exciting you and all kidding is first

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<v Speaker 7>of all, that song that you were playing is that

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<v Speaker 7>what the teams that get knocked out are the first

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<v Speaker 7>round of the basketball tournament played, because I know what.

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<v Speaker 1>Winn after Thanksgiving play. That's what the team that won

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<v Speaker 1>after Thankgiving this year play.

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<v Speaker 7>Finally after four years losing on Thanksgiving.

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<v Speaker 5>Fifteen ONNY So good to talk.

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<v Speaker 4>To you, So good to talk to you. My friends

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<v Speaker 4>see you.

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<v Speaker 5>I'd rather say your one long time to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 4>This program.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah know that I used to fill in for you,

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<v Speaker 7>and this is I cut my teeth right here and

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<v Speaker 7>Dwayne taught me everything that I know. So Blake, don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Admit to that. Oh gosh, that that'll be people I've.

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<v Speaker 7>Waited until after I signed the contract. Okay, it's exciting

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<v Speaker 7>to do. I'm doing Morning Drive now on the Salem Network.

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<v Speaker 7>So you know, this audience listens to me on the

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<v Speaker 7>way into work, and then I venture to say about

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<v Speaker 7>half of them are listening to you on the way home.

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<v Speaker 1>So gets like one point five. We're bringing you audience

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<v Speaker 1>right now. I want them to actually find you in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning. Is Larry O'Connor dot com? Can they get

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<v Speaker 1>you twenty four to seven?

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<v Speaker 2>There?

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<v Speaker 7>Larryo'show they're calling it. Larryoshow dot com on our show

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<v Speaker 7>sounds like a boy I've got I wish Larry we're

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<v Speaker 7>doing uh so we're doing mornings here. And here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 7>I filled him for Hugh and I filled in for

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<v Speaker 7>the great Dennis Miller. These were my big breakouts. Then

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<v Speaker 7>I get hired by w m L in Washington, d C,

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<v Speaker 7>the powerhouse news talk station here in the nation's capital.

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<v Speaker 7>And then suddenly I like, can't go on Salem radio anymore.

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<v Speaker 7>You know how these radio companies that like try to

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<v Speaker 7>build up walls and they keep you from doing it.

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<v Speaker 7>And so I've sort of been been, you know, on

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<v Speaker 7>w m a L and talking to the great audience

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<v Speaker 7>in Washington. And then they said, hey, this this thing

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<v Speaker 7>with Stigall is you know, happening. Chris is running for

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<v Speaker 7>Congress and they're absolutely lying about him. But he's gonna

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<v Speaker 7>win that primary. He's going to be fine. And by

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<v Speaker 7>the way, by the way, people need to know, he's

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<v Speaker 7>literally my best friend. He was the best man at

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<v Speaker 7>my wedding. I mean, by Chris and I are are.

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<v Speaker 7>So this has been so cool to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Able to him right now. Don't hurt him, We like Chris,

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<v Speaker 2>don't hurt.

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<v Speaker 7>Him and and when and I said, listen, w m

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<v Speaker 7>A l is my home. I can't see myself leaving

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<v Speaker 7>that radio station. And somehow, the geniuses in this industry,

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<v Speaker 7>from two different media companies and all the various interested parties,

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<v Speaker 7>they made it work. So I am now part of

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<v Speaker 7>the Salem Network and I'm still on wm AL in Washington,

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<v Speaker 7>d C.

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<v Speaker 4>So it is because you have.

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<v Speaker 1>A Democrat to make it inside the Beltway the way

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<v Speaker 1>that Larry has. Larry I got to tell I'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>the audience a true story. My kids all live in

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<v Speaker 1>Virginia and two of them are inside the Beltway. And

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<v Speaker 1>when Larry and I were opposite at each other, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how long that went on for?

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<v Speaker 2>How long did that go on for? We were opposite

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<v Speaker 2>at each other for a while.

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<v Speaker 7>Honestly, I had forgotten you had a radio show.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what they said too. They said, Dad, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>We hear you every day we're listening to Larry O'Connor.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the That was the toughest cut of all.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, that was hard.

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<v Speaker 1>You've had guest hosts and co hosts and and a

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<v Speaker 1>circus of regulars like I.

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<v Speaker 2>Do, including Bethany Mandel who we love. How are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you splitting up the work because you don't

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<v Speaker 1>work that hard. Really, you don't do any show prep.

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<v Speaker 1>People should know that.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, Well, Dwayne sends me everything. I don't know. If

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<v Speaker 7>I've had him on the payroll for years now, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Know me exactly.

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<v Speaker 7>He sends me all the good stuff that you ignore.

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<v Speaker 7>We know it's We had a four hour show in DC.

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<v Speaker 7>One of the one of the changes that we've made

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<v Speaker 7>is we've gone to three hours, which is a huge difference.

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<v Speaker 7>Starting on Era of five am versus six am is

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<v Speaker 7>night literally night and day. So that's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, because continued.

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<v Speaker 7>Because of the cameras worked out with SYLM News Channel,

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<v Speaker 7>it was hard to make the co host model work.

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<v Speaker 7>Bethany was in a lot with me, Patresa on Wuka

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<v Speaker 7>from Independent Women's Forum, Cassie Smedley long time, Julie Gunlock

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<v Speaker 7>from IWF as well. They all have rotated in and out.

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<v Speaker 7>Mercedes schlapped for a while there. It was really fun

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<v Speaker 7>to sort of have somebody to bounce off of you

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<v Speaker 7>like you have Dwayne. Of course, uh, literal bouncing sometimes

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<v Speaker 7>actually I've seen it happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Usually it helped you bribing.

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<v Speaker 7>Because of the complications with the news channel and the

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<v Speaker 7>cameras and all of those other things, we were not

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<v Speaker 7>able to make the co host thing happen right away.

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<v Speaker 7>They're going to be guts on the show. They're going

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<v Speaker 7>to be regular. It's cavalcade of stars. That's what the

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<v Speaker 7>company is in O'Connor and company. It's me and everyone

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<v Speaker 7>who makes people good.

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<v Speaker 1>If you are believing in the Andrew way, you'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>to anyone. You'll be nice to everyone, but no one

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<v Speaker 1>will be at all confused about what you believe. How

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<v Speaker 1>is it booking political people? Now, I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>give you my booker, you can't have her. But are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? Like freshman congressmen talk to you.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, oh, only the good ones. But yeah, absolutely. We

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<v Speaker 7>know my longtime collaborator and executive producer, Heather Hunter, who

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<v Speaker 7>has been producing the morning show in Washington, DC for

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<v Speaker 7>I think eighteen years now, going back to Fred Grandy,

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<v Speaker 7>former congressman who did the morning show in WMAL for

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<v Speaker 7>a while there. She came along in the package. She

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<v Speaker 7>of course, is married to Derek Hunter, the great columnist

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<v Speaker 7>at town Hall, and he does afternoon drive. Actually locally

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<v Speaker 7>at WMAL. She's with me her rolodex Do they still

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<v Speaker 7>use rolodexes? Whatever it is, she's got it and we

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<v Speaker 7>don't have any issues getting guests. I will tell you

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<v Speaker 7>the big shift.

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<v Speaker 2>We used to have a.

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<v Speaker 7>Regular list of Democrats that I would spar with that

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<v Speaker 7>would come on on a regular basis, and post Trump,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm sure you would agree, that's a little harder to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote, Connor will show up here and Chris Coons,

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Murphy case. Let me give you thirty seconds just

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<v Speaker 1>to tell people what they get in the morning, because

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<v Speaker 1>what they get with you is what they got with me.

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<v Speaker 2>The news and good guests. Is that a good summary.

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<v Speaker 7>That is, and a bit of fun. We want to

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<v Speaker 7>make sure that people go to work even when the

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<v Speaker 7>news is challenging. We want to try to find the

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<v Speaker 5>They'll forgive the fact that he's a leftist.

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<v Speaker 1>Larry O'Connor, my friend, congratulations on Jrudding coming back.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like coming home, Come home, Little Shiva.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be right back in America, Sons, Lario O'Connor right

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<v Speaker 1>here on the New Viewer show. Thank you for listening

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back in America.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Hugh hewittt amid reports from the web that the

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<v Speaker 1>United Arab Emirates have attacked Iranian facilities on Cusham Island.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm joined by Vic Mattis, Arts and Culture editor of

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<v Speaker 1>the Washington Freebeacon, co host of the Getting Hammered podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Vic I greet that new use those reports with glee.

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<v Speaker 2>How about you?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, I'd like to say that this is kind of

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<v Speaker 6>like a coalition of the willing two point zero if

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<v Speaker 6>you can finally get a lot of these countries not

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<v Speaker 6>just to allow our aircraft and other military into their airspace,

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<v Speaker 6>but actually taking part and taking the offensive, since in fact,

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<v Speaker 6>as you know, the Iranian regime is not just going

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<v Speaker 6>after the United States and bizarrely not trying to rally

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<v Speaker 6>the other nations in the region.

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<v Speaker 5>To their side.

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<v Speaker 6>They're going after everybody. They're launching missiles in every direction.

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<v Speaker 6>They're trying to terrorize their neighbors. Especially as you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 6>the UAE and Saudi Arabia is another big deal.

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<v Speaker 5>That is good news. I hope it is true.

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<v Speaker 6>I'd like to see more involvement because again, this is

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<v Speaker 6>going in the general direction of what Trump had wanted

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<v Speaker 6>since his first term, which is, you know, the Abraham Accords.

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<v Speaker 6>This is a remaking of the Middle East without the

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<v Speaker 6>Iranian threat.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>This morning, I was at the Convention Center in d

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<v Speaker 1>C moderating a panel with former Speaker Kevin McCarthy and

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<v Speaker 1>former share of the House Banking Committee Patrick McHenry, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was about optimism and our things looking good. And

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<v Speaker 1>I said, do you think we got a quad forming?

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<v Speaker 1>We got one out in the Pacific Israel, Japan, Australia

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<v Speaker 1>and US. Do you think we have a quad in

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<v Speaker 1>the Middle East? Israel, Saudi Arabia, the United Are of

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<v Speaker 1>Emirates and US. And Kevin McCarthy said, let's just stop

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<v Speaker 1>at the UA. They're the best. They're great I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he loves Israel too, but UAE is a little Sparta,

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<v Speaker 1>and he went on a long bit. UAE has got

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of F thirty fives and the pilots that can

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<v Speaker 1>fly them. They why Iran attacked them will never ever

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<v Speaker 1>make sense.

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<v Speaker 5>No, that's right.

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<v Speaker 6>They have excellent pilots as to the Saudis. And of course,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, it's not just Israel that receives a lot

0:30:54.400 --> 0:30:57.960
<v Speaker 6>of the United States is defense aid. Those countries. The

0:30:57.960 --> 0:31:00.240
<v Speaker 6>Saudis have been receiving F fifteens for many years.

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<v Speaker 5>And you mentioned the F thirty five's, the joint strike fighters.

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<v Speaker 6>Those things go for short you know, short takeoff and landing,

0:31:07.120 --> 0:31:09.360
<v Speaker 6>and they have some sort of stealth capability. Some of

0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:11.920
<v Speaker 6>that work, some of that doesn't when you're dealing with,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, the asymmetrical warfare of Iran, but definitely you

0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:19.320
<v Speaker 6>want them on your side. So again, it tells me

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<v Speaker 6>that the command and control structure in.

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<v Speaker 5>Iran is no longer.

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<v Speaker 6>It's never been quite centralized, but it's definitely not the

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<v Speaker 6>case at this point. And so you have different you know,

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<v Speaker 6>areas of the country under a different command and they're

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<v Speaker 6>just lobbing their missiles, you know, at will, and again,

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<v Speaker 6>I think there's a big question about what the leadership

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<v Speaker 6>is right now.

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<v Speaker 5>We are really putting.

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<v Speaker 6>The squeeze on this regime, and I was very concerned

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<v Speaker 6>when there was an announcement that a deal was imminent

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<v Speaker 6>that included things like a five year moratorium enrichment.

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<v Speaker 5>That sounded like a bum deal to me. So I'm

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<v Speaker 5>glad that that is not happening, at least at the moment.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to fourteen point deal with them. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want a four point deal with them.

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<v Speaker 1>I want capitulation. Uh vic, Let me turn to what

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to talk to you about. I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was an excellent Getting Hammered podcast because it was mostly

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<v Speaker 1>about Graham Platner. I talked to Tom Cotton today, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to give you the story he told me,

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<v Speaker 1>and then have you respond to it. When he was

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<v Speaker 1>in basic training going into the infantry, his drill sergeant

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<v Speaker 1>threw a bunch of paper on the ground, said, every

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<v Speaker 1>soldier here, tell me what tattoos you have, and just

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<v Speaker 1>tell me what they are. I don't want a a thesis.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I got a dragon on my shoulder. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to know why I just tell me what

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<v Speaker 1>I did. Tom donnevity uh tattoos, but he said, apparently

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<v Speaker 1>everybody knows the exact nature of the I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>any tattoos.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think you do.

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<v Speaker 1>But everyone knows why they have a tattoo, when they

0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:49.320
<v Speaker 1>got it, why they got it, what it is supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to mean. Graham Plattner's getting away with murder, and thank

0:32:53.200 --> 0:32:55.560
<v Speaker 1>you and Mary Catherine for not letting him do that.

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<v Speaker 5>No, it reminded me.

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<v Speaker 6>Hugh of a movie called Forgetting Sarah Marshall and Russell

0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:05.520
<v Speaker 6>Brand has a character who is this really idiotic rock

0:33:05.560 --> 0:33:08.760
<v Speaker 6>singer and has multiple different tattoos, and his girlfriend played

0:33:08.760 --> 0:33:11.680
<v Speaker 6>by Kristen Bell, tells him they all have conflicting messages

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<v Speaker 6>in different languages.

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<v Speaker 5>That's how stupid he was. And Graham Planner is trying

0:33:16.000 --> 0:33:18.200
<v Speaker 5>to play that card. Oh, I like this tattoo. It

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<v Speaker 5>really looks cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a skull and crossbones.

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<v Speaker 6>It is the exact identical replica of the Totin Coff,

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<v Speaker 6>which is the you know, the SS Death's head tattoo.

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<v Speaker 5>There's no mistaking that. And we have to remind people.

0:33:32.000 --> 0:33:35.920
<v Speaker 5>You know, he had campaign staff who had left.

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<v Speaker 6>Early on when the scandal was first breaking, and I

0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:41.760
<v Speaker 6>believe it was his campaign manager or a top campaign

0:33:41.800 --> 0:33:45.640
<v Speaker 6>advisor who left and said, you know, don't fool yourself.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, Graham is a military buff and he full

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:52.840
<v Speaker 6>well knows that that tattoo on his chest that he

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<v Speaker 6>got in Croatia is in fact the Nazi death's head tattoo.

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<v Speaker 6>And the other side is just trying to convince themselves

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<v Speaker 6>in rash.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, maybe they just don't.

0:34:01.640 --> 0:34:04.040
<v Speaker 6>Even care because he's just basically against Trump and they

0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:04.720
<v Speaker 6>just want to win.

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<v Speaker 5>That it's okay or that was a long time ago.

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<v Speaker 6>And what's important, Hugh is what he believes beginning right now.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what they want us to believe, and that what

0:34:17.719 --> 0:34:20.399
<v Speaker 1>he believed in the past has no bearing on that now.

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<v Speaker 2>The Free Beacon ran a story this.

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<v Speaker 1>Week about the fact he led us to believe that

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<v Speaker 1>he got a VA loan and that's why he got

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<v Speaker 1>his house. There's nothing wrong with having your parents lend

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<v Speaker 1>you your down payment. He got the whole kitten kaboodle

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<v Speaker 1>from his dad. But then he did a mortgage with

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<v Speaker 1>his dad and you guys discovered it. How come the

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<v Speaker 1>Free Beacon gets stories like this that the other newspapers don't.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, we have a great staff here. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 6>really the dogged reporters, and we have, of course a

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<v Speaker 6>very tough, uh and fierce leader, our editor in chief,

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<v Speaker 6>as you know, Eleana Johnson.

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<v Speaker 5>We don't stop until we get that story.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think a lot of people might not feel comfortable,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, poking their nose in certain areas because maybe

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<v Speaker 6>they like the guy, maybe they don't want to benefit

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<v Speaker 6>the Republicans or something on the other side, So because

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<v Speaker 6>it doesn't fit their narrative, it hurts the fact that

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<v Speaker 6>they won't be able to actually seek the truth. And

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<v Speaker 6>that's what we're doing over here and giving them the

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<v Speaker 6>left obviously a taste of their own medicine, because they

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<v Speaker 6>do a lot of digging on the right, and this

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<v Speaker 6>is what we do at the Beacon on the left.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's going to be a real story. It's going

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<v Speaker 5>to have hard news and hard facts.

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<v Speaker 6>People can complain about it, but at the end of

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<v Speaker 6>the day, we'll say to them, we'll tell us exactly

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<v Speaker 6>what we got wrong and we'll fix it.

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<v Speaker 5>And the fact is it's not that we get anything wrong.

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<v Speaker 6>They just don't like that we're poking our nose where

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<v Speaker 6>they don't want us to be in. But yeah, he

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<v Speaker 6>has this narrative that he's a hard working, blue collar guy,

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<v Speaker 6>an oystermen, this fisherman, and he rows up in this way.

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<v Speaker 6>In fact, you know, I mean, he went to a

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<v Speaker 6>fancy prep school. His grandfather was a famous architect. It's

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<v Speaker 6>not what it seems. But they want to believe this

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<v Speaker 6>because they want to win Maine. They want to win

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<v Speaker 6>those hard working manor votes.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not going to work.

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<v Speaker 1>But I want to finish by asking you. You've got

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Crado, you got styles, you got all these great people, right,

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<v Speaker 1>how many people apply to work with the Beacon? Why

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<v Speaker 1>are I mean, why are you so good at getting

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<v Speaker 1>stories at the Posts and the Wall Street Journal and

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<v Speaker 1>the Times cannot get they're out there.

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<v Speaker 5>You're very yeah, you're you're very kind.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, you know, we teach them, well, they have

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<v Speaker 6>to have you know, we look for reporters that you know,

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<v Speaker 6>when we bring them on, they have to have that

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<v Speaker 6>fire in the belly. They really have to want to

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<v Speaker 6>go out there and do it themselves. But that's a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of work, you know, it's not a nine to

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<v Speaker 6>five job. And you'll find yourselves deep in some archive

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<v Speaker 6>in some you know, musty library at a university where

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<v Speaker 6>some person, let's say Governor Wes Moore of Maryland, claimed

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<v Speaker 6>that his grandfather, great grandfather was you know, kicked out

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<v Speaker 6>because of the KKK.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, let's look into that, and it.

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<v Speaker 6>Doesn't seem to be quite the story that he's telling,

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<v Speaker 6>and he has other problems in his past.

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<v Speaker 5>That's what we do, and that's what we look for

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<v Speaker 5>or only to know.

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<v Speaker 1>If they gave Pulitzers for real reporting, the Free Beacon

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<v Speaker 1>would have a shelf of them. Vic Madison, congratulations on

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<v Speaker 1>a great episode of getting hammered by Congratulations on helping

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<v Speaker 1>run the Free Beacon.

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<v Speaker 2>Follow him on exit. Victorina madis following me,