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Speaker 5: Everything you need to know about the top headlines of

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Speaker 5: Friday on did that Heavin go? And now from the

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Speaker 1: It's the Wednesday edition. Lots of interesting stuff to get

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Speaker 11: the story and it became a book told in the

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Speaker 1: And the power of this story is in what we

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Speaker 1: He was in modern era, a terrorist, a rapist, a murderer.

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Speaker 1: He was somebody who was scorned by society, looked down upon,

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Speaker 1: had committed, and thievery was probably among them, but probably

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Speaker 1: wasn't foremost, let's just leave it at that, but here's

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Speaker 1: the power. He didn't have a chance to join a

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Speaker 1: He's coming right back. Don't go anywhere here.

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Speaker 7: He is from New York.

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Speaker 1: Kevin McCullough, all right, very glad to have you with us.

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Speaker 1: We are talking about Holy Week and the importance of

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Speaker 1: the purpose of the gospel, and John i Ello is

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Speaker 1: get much deeper and much more non negotiable than this guy.

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Speaker 1: And yet Jesus said, it's not too late for you.

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Speaker 1: And over the years you've explained it nicely. But we've

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Speaker 1: turned it into an audiobook that became a radio drama,

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Speaker 1: it's been filmed as a live presentation, and there's even

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Speaker 1: hopes to maybe go further with the visual presentation of

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Speaker 1: every year that it gets played on the radio or

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Speaker 1: touches people in that way that you hear from more

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Speaker 1: and more people. How many languages is it now in?

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Speaker 11: Well, so, the book itself translated into fifteen languages.

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Speaker 12: And then you alluded to both the radio.

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Speaker 11: Drama which has translated into several languages and has aired

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Speaker 11: and that one man play was filmed, and that film

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Speaker 11: performance has been translated into thirty languages at this point.

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Speaker 11: Last year we aired around the same time, Kevin. We

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Speaker 11: types of notes we got to your point of I

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Speaker 11: shared this with somebody in my life who doesn't net

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Speaker 11: no Christ, and it opened up conversations like we've never

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Speaker 11: had before, people saying I was living a.

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Speaker 12: Life that I was not proud of.

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Speaker 11: I thought God wanted nothing to do with me, and

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Speaker 11: yet I'm like that thief.

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Speaker 12: I want what he got. You know, the beauty of.

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Speaker 11: The clarity of Jesus Christ. He doesn't say to the thief, Hey,

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Speaker 11: you know, let's let's think this over for a while,

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Speaker 11: you know, I mean, let's take our time. Maybe we'll

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Speaker 11: be with me in Paradise. Today, you'll be with me

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Speaker 11: in Paris. It just so powerful to know what the

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Speaker 11: ultimate power of what Jesus Christ did at that cross.

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Speaker 1: Well, five million just last year. How many do we

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Speaker 1: have any estimations of how many people have heard it

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Speaker 1: or seen it over the course of the fourteen years.

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Speaker 12: No question.

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Speaker 11: The radio drama, which you actually worked on and produced

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Speaker 11: so wonderfully, Kevin, has been probably heard by more than

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Speaker 11: twenty million people over the years, and several different languages.

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Speaker 11: We've veried across the Salem Network, other radio channels globally, and.

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Speaker 12: It just keeps.

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Speaker 11: You know, it's a project that we renew every year

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Speaker 11: because it keeps doing new things every year. It's kind

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Speaker 11: of God's word. It doesn't get old, it doesn't get stale.

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Speaker 1: And so well, we're excited, friends, because the reason that

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Speaker 1: John and I are telling you about this is that

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Speaker 1: we want to be even more proactive. We have not

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Speaker 1: we're not resting on laurels. We are in fact hungry

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Speaker 1: like hungry can be, and we have put together what

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Speaker 1: even a more intimate relationship with. There will be I believe,

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Speaker 1: a link to the full length film in English. If

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Speaker 1: some of the other languages that are going out there as.

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Speaker 12: All available for free.

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Speaker 1: That'll be yeah, it's all available for free, but it

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Speaker 1: But what we really want to do is spread the

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Speaker 1: at all, but we'll get it to you. Get it

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Speaker 1: in your hands, and then between now and Holy Week,

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Speaker 1: be thinking and praying and asking God, who do you

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Speaker 1: different groups of friends that want to see it. Maybe

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Speaker 1: Just use it to use it until it can't be

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Speaker 1: Resurrection Sunday because John, the hope is that the message

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Speaker 1: holds it takes hold of everybody's heart that we can

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Speaker 1: reach with this story. And thank you to open the

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Speaker 1: and blessed between now and Eastern Yeah.

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Speaker 11: You know, you think back to the origins of this project, Kevin,

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Speaker 11: and hopefully everybody watching and listening can appreciate conversations with

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Speaker 11: people in their life. It doesn't need to be more

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Speaker 11: just invites you into and I promise you if you

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Speaker 11: start the conversation, the Holy Spirit will give you the

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Speaker 11: right words.

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Speaker 1: I can't tell you intimidating, it'll it'll go pretty well

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Speaker 11: And what we've tried to do, you know, study questions

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Speaker 12: They are that, but they're just conversation start. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 12: and you just watch a sixty.

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Speaker 11: Minute powerful performance from Steven you know, or even if

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Speaker 12: How do you begin to say, hey, you know, how

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Speaker 7: You know?

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Speaker 12: And and what does that mean to you?

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Speaker 11: And we like the Thief, right, it gives you a

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Speaker 11: great opportunity to even confess yourself a bit like the

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Speaker 12: So I hope that and we'll pray.

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Speaker 11: We have a team that opened the Bible, that prays

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Speaker 11: mightily over these things, and so we'll be praying that

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Speaker 11: opens that conversation. And we probably won't know any of

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Speaker 11: the fruits of that work until we are in heaven ourselves.

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Speaker 11: But what a great way to celebrate somewhere up there together,

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Speaker 12: If people brought to.

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Speaker 1: All as the culture and the society are starting to

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Speaker 1: up just friends as you're listening, just pray, Lord send

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Speaker 1: that prayer. If you spend twenty five seconds thinking about

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Speaker 1: On that. Don't let that impulse that the Holy Spirit

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Speaker 1: More than happy to help you with that as well.

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Speaker 1: John Ilo, you're going to talk to us a couple

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Speaker 1: of times between now and Easter. Thank you for being here.

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Speaker 12: And my pleasure, Kevin.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Kevin mccallough, coming right back from

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Speaker 1: Times Square, Go away, stick around.

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Speaker 9: For more of that, Kevin next, serving it up with

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Speaker 1: It's that cabin show, all right, friends, Kelvin mccaullaugh. Glad

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Speaker 1: to be with you. And as we wrap up our

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Speaker 1: based on the coverage. A couple of voices. One has

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Speaker 1: been Mashi Alinashad And if you don't recognize the name,

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Speaker 1: She called out Kamala Harris, She said, who are you? No, honestly,

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Speaker 1: I have Muslim friends. We don't talk about this much,

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Speaker 1: If you did, you couldn't throw gay people off of buildings.

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Speaker 1: can have a debate about whether or not your moderations

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Speaker 1: But for the for the extremists, for the ones that

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Speaker 13: Kevin McCullough Hour two straight ahead, somewhere in the bowels

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Speaker 1: Kevin McCullough radio host with Salem.

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Speaker 1: Many of you know him when I spooks for Damas.

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Speaker 4: Be greater, of course, would be that Donald's show.

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Speaker 1: We don't have that.

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Speaker 4: So we have that Kevin.

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Speaker 5: Show featuring the music of Dick Tunney and the Dream.

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Speaker 5: Ahead, everything you need to know about the top headlines

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Speaker 5: Plus practical tips for family life, spiritual life, and good

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Speaker 5: old regular life. It's Kevin McCullough Monday through Friday on

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Speaker 5: Broadcast Studios. The man who is not what he wants

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Speaker 13: Here all right, welcome in Kevin McCullough, That Kevin Show.

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Speaker 1: Thrilled to have you with us. That Kevinshow dot com

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Speaker 1: glad to read your emails. I don't pawn that off

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Speaker 1: on staff or anybody else. I always take care of

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Speaker 1: that on my own. We are still covering the events

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Speaker 1: of that. Some big good things happening today the Israelis

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Speaker 1: that the regime can power up. They killed another layer

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Speaker 1: also got the guy that had been behind the assassination

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Speaker 1: attempts on President Trump, the Iranian that had planned those

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Speaker 1: and their land their home back, very very soon. That's

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Speaker 1: And I feel a little perplexed because it's almost breathtaking

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Speaker 1: that anything about this needs to be said. Let me

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Speaker 1: and again, it's kind of a shame that that has

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Speaker 1: parents do matter, not the bureaucrats, not the school boards,

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Speaker 1: not the activist teachers, not even the state of California.

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Speaker 1: Parents are the ones that matter. And yet here in

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Speaker 1: That is just astounding to me that they have to

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Speaker 1: had allowed schools to listen to this conceal a child's

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Speaker 1: that lie. The justices instead reinstated a lower court order

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Speaker 1: Think about that for a second. The highest court in

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Speaker 1: Just think about that with me for a second. You

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Speaker 1: lie to parents about their own children. What has become

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Speaker 1: to say anything. Every voter in the state should be

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court weigh in on it because you couldn't get

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Speaker 1: clarity in lower courts. What's wrong with our court systems.

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Speaker 1: The case arose after California adopted policies encouraging and allowing

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Speaker 1: educators to hide i elie deceive a student's gender transition

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Speaker 1: at school from their parents. The twenty twenty four California

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Speaker 1: Safety Act even barred schools from requiring teachers to inform

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Speaker 1: In plain English, that means a child could be living

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Speaker 1: the secret. Friends. That is not education. That is state

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Speaker 1: sponsored child abuse. When you divide parents from kids, that's

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Speaker 1: child abuse. Parents across the state challenge the policy, arguing

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Speaker 1: families and their kids, particularly in issues of identity, faith,

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Speaker 1: and moral formation. Come on, now, the Supreme Court agreed,

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Speaker 1: at least for now. Thank god. The Justice is granted

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Speaker 1: the parents' request to reinstate a federal district court order

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing, my little trans educators out there. You

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Speaker 1: don't get to take my little Johnny and Susie into

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Speaker 1: with them and your imagination and your perverse weird other

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Speaker 1: than what is reality that you're living in. I don't

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Speaker 1: really want you teaching in the school systems, period because

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Speaker 1: I think that if you're if you're of that mindset,

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Speaker 1: never been addressed. Because what we're finding out about is

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Speaker 1: just went away. That's happening in dozens upon hundreds of

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Speaker 1: kids that have gone partially down the path. So, no,

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Speaker 1: I really don't want you teaching in my kids' school,

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Speaker 1: But I really will not approve of you having Johnny

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Speaker 1: come up with their own new identity, and then you

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Speaker 1: that into their imagination and their experience and the power suggestion,

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Speaker 1: all the rest of that garbage. You don't get to

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Speaker 1: do that with my Johnny and Susie in your classroom.

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Speaker 1: They are my children, given to me by God, and

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Speaker 1: I am responsible for them until they are an adult.

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Speaker 1: So get your rubby, perverted hands off of their minds

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Speaker 1: and bodies and identities and names and pronouns and everything else.

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Speaker 1: And that's what the Supreme Court said. The Supreme Court said,

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Speaker 1: Kev's not crazy, He's just a good parent. The court

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Speaker 1: acknowledged something most Americans instinctively already know. Parents are not

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Speaker 1: And that truth is older than our Constitution, older than

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Speaker 1: the Republic. It is rooted in the natural order and

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Speaker 1: natural law. Long before legislators existed. Mothers and fathers were

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Speaker 1: responsible for raising and guiding and protecting their kids. Civilizations

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Speaker 1: new ideology has tried to flip that order upside down.

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Speaker 1: And I'm just saying, friends, over my dead body, we're

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Speaker 1: not going to just sit back and say, oh, okay, sure,

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Speaker 1: if it's okay with you. And for this brief, meaningful moment,

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court, who should have never have had to

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Speaker 1: decide the issue, the highest court in the land, has

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Speaker 1: reminded America of something profoundly important. Parents matter, and they

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Speaker 1: matter more than almost anything else when it comes to

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Speaker 1: And when a society forgets that truth, history eventually reminds it,

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Speaker 1: and it usually comes the hard way. Kevin McCullough coming.

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Speaker 6: Right back.

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Speaker 3: Here.

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Speaker 7: He is from New York, exact.

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Speaker 13: Kevin McCullough, Welcome back Times Square, Kevin mccallaugh.

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Speaker 1: Glad to have you with us. That kevinshow dot com

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Speaker 1: access to all the good stuff on Wednesdays, you know

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Speaker 1: that we oftentimes we'll tell you about the breaking news

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Speaker 1: as it's happened, but we also kind of set that

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Speaker 1: aside and take a look at some of the issues

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Speaker 1: of things. And I'm very, very honored to welcome back

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Speaker 1: doctor Laura Perdy to the broadcast. She was on the

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Speaker 1: and had a baby, and so she's been a little

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Speaker 1: bit busy, but she is coming back with a force.

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Speaker 1: And Laura, it's good to see you. Thank you for

869
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Speaker 1: being here.

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Speaker 14: It's so great to be back. Kevin, thank you for

871
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Speaker 14: having me.

872
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Speaker 1: Absolutely we have talked a lot about and you have

873
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Speaker 1: a very broad experience as a medical doctor. You've served

874
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Speaker 1: in uniform for our country, and you've seen kind of

875
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:04,359
Speaker 1: what the military medical arena was all like. In fact,

876
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Speaker 1: you took some of their early kind of adoption of

877
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Speaker 1: technology and trying to use technology to help patients and

878
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 1: kind of really pioneer a lane for yourself that's kind

879
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Speaker 1: of unparalleled. And I want people to know that swell

880
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,760
Speaker 1: Care dot health is where they can go and access

881
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 1: what you're doing now. Swell Care all when word dot

882
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Speaker 1: h a LT. But because you have such a wide

883
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Speaker 1: knowledge base of so many different medical things, I want

884
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Speaker 1: to hit some of the hot buttons today. And in

885
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Speaker 1: recent months, I have heard the term perimenopause, and I've

886
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Speaker 1: seen more headlines about menopause and about all kinds of

887
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Speaker 1: things related to that stage of life. And I think

888
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Speaker 1: I've ever seen in my entire life leading up to that.

889
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Speaker 1: So I don't know why that stage of life and

890
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Speaker 1: this kind of it seems like perimenopause. And according to

891
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Speaker 1: some women that you talk with about it, it's kind

892
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Speaker 1: of like a joke and they kind of make fun

893
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Speaker 1: of each other with it and that sort of thing.

894
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Speaker 1: I don't but walk us through what is happening with

895
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Speaker 1: that change of life in our culture, in the medical circles.

896
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Speaker 1: What's happening on that topic right now?

897
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Speaker 15: Certainly, Kevin, this is an amazing time in the history

898
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Speaker 15: of women's healthcare, because for decades, decades, I mean when

899
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Speaker 15: I was going through training, and that was fifteen years ago,

900
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Speaker 15: we were always taught and told that once a woman

901
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Speaker 15: goes into menopause, and to take a step back and

902
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Speaker 15: define it. Menopause is the time in a woman's life

903
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 15: when she's no longer able to have children. She can

904
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Speaker 15: no longer bear children, and your hormones start to change,

905
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 15: predominantly the estrogen, the progesterone, and the levels that they

906
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 15: are at when you're in your reproductive years. They start

907
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 15: to get a little crazy, the cycles get irregular. There's

908
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 15: lots of mood swings, exhaustion, hair loss, skin change.

909
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Speaker 14: Is bone loss.

910
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 15: All that stuff usually starts to happen in the mid

911
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 15: to late forties for most women to fifties, and for

912
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,280
Speaker 15: decades we were told you can't do anything, there's nothing

913
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 15: you can do, no treatments, just good luck. Sometimes we

914
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 15: would even prescribe antidepressants, say, oh, here's some antidepressants, tafe

915
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:13,399
Speaker 15: you feel better.

916
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Speaker 14: Don't take hormones because.

917
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 15: You'll have a heart attack or you'll have a stroke

918
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Speaker 15: and that'll be very, very dangerous for you. Even as

919
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Speaker 15: a doctor they would say, don't do that. But now

920
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 15: research has actually shown and they've removed that recommendation and

921
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 15: it's now okay and considered to be healthy and advisable

922
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Speaker 15: for women that are going through that change in their

923
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Speaker 15: life to receive hormonal support prescribe by their doctor so

924
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Speaker 15: that they can feel as good as possible while they're

925
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Speaker 15: going through that transition.

926
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Speaker 1: Is there an organic or natural component to hormones versus

927
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Speaker 1: an artificial or synthetic component that played into that debate

928
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Speaker 1: or was it just the use of hormones themselves, You know.

929
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Speaker 15: I think when the studies themselves are being done almost

930
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Speaker 15: always using pharmaceuticals, not the compounded types. There are compounds

931
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Speaker 15: that a pharmacy can make for you, which if you're

932
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Speaker 15: using the right kind of pharmacy, they'll be qualified, certified,

933
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Speaker 15: registered with their state board, passing all their inspections, and

934
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Speaker 15: you can feel confident that what's coming to you is

935
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Speaker 15: safe for you to consume, or you can do the

936
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Speaker 15: name brand stuff at your pharmacy that your insurance will cover.

937
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Speaker 15: So I'm sure that most of the studies that have

938
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Speaker 15: been done have been on the name brand stuff. But

939
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Speaker 15: the good news is the industry has been far ahead

940
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Speaker 15: of the regulations. I mean, for the last probably ten

941
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Speaker 15: to fifteen years, women have just done it anyways. They

942
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Speaker 15: have to pay cash for it, insurance doesn't cover it,

943
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Speaker 15: and we've had to have a lot of consent forms

944
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 15: and educational things to say, Okay, you know, you could

945
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Speaker 15: in theory have a heart attack or stroke, but there's

946
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Speaker 15: a lot of.

947
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Speaker 14: Options out there.

948
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 15: There's lots of functional medicine providers and pharmacies that give

949
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Speaker 15: women access to a lot of choices.

950
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Speaker 1: And by the way, we have one of those great

951
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Speaker 1: compound pharmacies sponsoring this part of the show each week,

952
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Speaker 1: pdlabs rx dot com. Friends, if you are looking for

953
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Speaker 1: a reliable compound pharmacy. But let me ask you, doctor

954
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Speaker 1: Laura Purdy, why was the negativity in the argument to

955
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Speaker 1: begin with? Was there a sense that you were messing

956
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 1: with nature? What was the what did what was the thinking?

957
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I know at one point in time, medical

958
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Speaker 1: practitioners thought leeches were good to bleed people when they

959
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Speaker 1: had disease and stuff. So I know we've come a

960
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: long way in terms of like trial and error and

961
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Speaker 1: actually figuring out stuff that's real. But what did they

962
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: what did they try to tell people that they were

963
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 1: going to be more likely to be exposed to things

964
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Speaker 1: like cancer or what was the argument?

965
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Speaker 15: No, I honestly, I genuinely think it was largely a

966
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Speaker 15: gender discrepancy. I mean, I know that's kind of an

967
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Speaker 15: easy button to hit, but if you think about it,

968
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 15: think about it this way. Men have been able to

969
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Speaker 15: take testosterone whenever they have low testosterone for decades, and

970
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 15: that actually does increase their risk of stroke. It can

971
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Speaker 15: make your blood thicker, it can hurt your liver. You've

972
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Speaker 15: got to take all these tests when you're on testosterone

973
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Speaker 15: to make sure that you're not having thick blood count

974
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Speaker 15: or your livers, you know, not having problems. And despite

975
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 15: the fact that there are risks, men have been taking

976
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Speaker 15: it for decades, and I think for women there was

977
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Speaker 15: probably less research, less funding allocated, and it just it

978
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Speaker 15: was not a messing with nature. It's a direct analogy

979
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Speaker 15: to the testosterone thing. And there's actually lower risk of

980
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 15: side effects with the estrogen than there is the testosterone.

981
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Speaker 15: So I think it just took that long for enough

982
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Speaker 15: people to care enough about studying it to produce the

983
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 15: right kind of data to override maybe some old stuff

984
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 15: that wasn't high quality that said heart.

985
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Speaker 14: Attack and stroke risk if you take estrogen.

986
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Speaker 1: But to be clear, what you're saying now is that

987
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Speaker 1: the official recommendation is that there's not a necessarily increased

988
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Speaker 1: chance of stroke.

989
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 15: I think the exact recommendation is that it can be used,

990
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 15: it can be treated, and it can be done safely.

991
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 15: There are some patients that will have a higher risk

992
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 15: of breast cancer, you know, like, for example, if you're

993
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 15: increasing their estrogen, So do you have to make sure

994
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 15: you're still getting your mammograms and doing any blood work

995
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 15: that's relevant for you minimizing.

996
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 14: Your cardiac risk if you have a higher risk.

997
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 15: But the generic blanket recommendation that no women should ever

998
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 15: have it for any reason has been what is gone now?

999
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 1: Well, that is certainly a threshold that is historic in nature,

1000
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: And just hearing you talk about it makes me think

1001
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 1: of why I hate all the pharmaceutical ads on TV,

1002
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 1: because there were there are companies invested in trying to

1003
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: get you to try all kinds of things. And I

1004
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 1: literally heard one, I think it was in the Super Bowl,

1005
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 1: and I turned to my wife, I said, that's a

1006
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 1: new disclaimer. The side effectgative potential negative side effect was death.

1007
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: And yet there's saying but ask your doctor if you

1008
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: can take it. I'm like, Okay, maybe we can find

1009
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: maybe some other things that might work. I do think

1010
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 1: that the market should be unless it's just really posing

1011
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 1: an overwhelming danger to the citizenry. I think that there

1012
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 1: should be a lot of leeway for doctors and patients

1013
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 1: to figure out what works best individually for each person

1014
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 1: that they're dealing with. Because you know, as well as

1015
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 1: inbody doctor Purty, none of us know two of us

1016
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 1: are exactly alike, right.

1017
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Speaker 15: We believe in patient autonomy but also shared decision making.

1018
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,959
Speaker 15: Just like before you have a surgery. There's always risk

1019
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 15: associated with surgery, but we do it anyways a lot

1020
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 15: of times. So talking about the risk, talking about suitability

1021
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 15: and the patient, I mean, you're assuming the risk, you're

1022
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 15: taking on the risk yourself. And I'm happy that we

1023
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 15: now have the opportunity to let women have more of

1024
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 15: a choice in what they do for their lives their

1025
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Speaker 15: bodies at that stage in their life.

1026
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Speaker 1: One of the things that you have really pioneered is

1027
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Speaker 1: the whole concept of digital medicine and telemeds and the

1028
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 1: ability to treat people at a distance and to be

1029
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 1: able to treat more people and swellcare. Dot health is

1030
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Speaker 1: a really shining example of how modern day healthcare is done.

1031
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 1: What's the latest in that field? We have a couple

1032
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 1: of minutes before first break, just what's the latest in

1033
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 1: terms of what's developing for patients. That's really kind of

1034
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 1: cutting edge.

1035
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 15: Well, telemedicine is here to stay, and it's really interesting

1036
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 15: because there are lots and lots and lots of companies

1037
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 15: out there that sub specialize in different facets of medicine.

1038
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 15: But now we have access to lots of different pharmacies

1039
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 15: that create lots of different products and lots of different

1040
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 15: ways to connect with patients.

1041
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 14: The state laws have been loosening up a little, so

1042
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 14: when it comes.

1043
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 15: To chat phone video, we have better tools and technology

1044
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 15: and regulations than we did before.

1045
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 14: So I think now is an amazing time for women.

1046
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 15: Actually, menopause is a great issue to treat virtually because

1047
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 15: as long as you've had a mammogram or you've had

1048
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 15: some blood work and you're having an annual physical with

1049
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 15: your doctor, we can actually pick it up from there.

1050
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 15: And help you virtually without sending you to an in

1051
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 15: person office every couple of weeks.

1052
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: Well, that's that's a huge benefit to everybody that's got

1053
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 1: a busy schedule, which is just about everybody. It's well

1054
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Speaker 1: Thiss Wednesday. She's doctor Laura Perty. I'm Kevin McCullough. We're

1055
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 1: coming right back from Times Square. Don't go anywhere.

1056
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Speaker 7: Let's stick around for more of that. Kevin next here

1057
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:54,919
Speaker 7: he is from New York.

1058
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 1: That Kevin.

1059
01:01:58,000 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 7: Kevin McCullough.

1060
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Speaker 13: Welcome back, Kavin McCullough. I've had you with us every

1061
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 13: now and then we talk wellness, and.

1062
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Speaker 1: Every now and then I get the pleasure of speaking

1063
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 1: with doctor Laura Perty, who's doing great, great work at

1064
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Speaker 1: a place called swellcare dot health. Swellcare dot health if

1065
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 1: you want to look it up online. Doctor Purdy, before

1066
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 1: you took time off and had your baby and disappeared

1067
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Speaker 1: for a little while before you came back. The weight loss,

1068
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 1: weight loss, weight loss, weight loss. Everybody's talking weight loss,

1069
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Speaker 1: everybody's doing weight loss. Everybody seems to have done pretty

1070
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 1: good with weight loss. I mean, I'm seeing people on

1071
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 1: TV that I knew in person twenty years ago. I

1072
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 1: don't recognize them because they've lost so much weight. But

1073
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 1: you have like major, major global superstars like Serena Williams

1074
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:48,439
Speaker 1: who's doing endorsements on GLP shots and other things. There's

1075
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 1: been a lot of controversy. There's been a lot of questions,

1076
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of lawsuits. There's been a lot

1077
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Speaker 1: of people looking under the hood at the different types

1078
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 1: of weight loss products that are out there, not just

1079
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 1: GLP ones or twos, but whatever the tetrahydrocide or whatever

1080
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 1: that's called is. But there's so many different ways that

1081
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 1: people are going about it. Now, give us a kind

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Speaker 1: of a state of the state on weight loss from

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Speaker 1: where you sit absolutely.

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Speaker 15: And I feel like I should give a disclaimer. This

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Speaker 15: is not legal advice, it's not medical advice. We're just

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Speaker 15: having a conversation.

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Speaker 14: Okay, rrect.

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Speaker 15: So what has happened over the last few years now,

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Speaker 15: Swell Medical Orswellcare dot Health, we have been treating patients

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Speaker 15: for weight loss since twenty twenty one, right after the pandemic.

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Speaker 15: We have this massive collection of patients that we had

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Speaker 15: for urgent care and the first wave of weight loss

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Speaker 15: patients we're seeing us in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 14: So we've been doing this for five years.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 14: What has happened is when the name.

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Speaker 15: Brand medications came out five years ago, there was dismal access.

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Speaker 15: Most insurances would not cover it. Most patients didn't have

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Speaker 15: the proper paperwork and blood work that they needed to

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Speaker 15: get the insurance to pay for it. Even if they

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Speaker 15: would and the coverage would stop and start, it would

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Speaker 15: be there, it would disappear.

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Speaker 14: Family members could get it, they couldn't.

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Speaker 15: It was a disaster, and the only medications that existed

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Speaker 15: were name brand for diabetes. Fast forward, more medications specifically

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Speaker 15: came out name brand for obesity, and then they got

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Speaker 15: additional conditions added to them like sleep, apnea on a

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Speaker 15: kidney disease, cardiovascular mortality which is huge. And then due

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Speaker 15: to supply issues because in those early years it was

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Speaker 15: impossible to get supply in certain parts of the country.

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Speaker 15: It was absolutely an access to care issue. So that's

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Speaker 15: when the compounding pharmacies stepped in. Right, wrong or indifferent, right,

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Speaker 15: This is just the way that it worked. The compounding

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Speaker 15: pharmacy stepped in to create using the raw materials, the products,

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Speaker 15: and a lot of times they would add in additional medication,

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Speaker 15: so they weren't infringing on the copyright like B twelve

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Speaker 15: for fatigue, B six for navia glycine for muscle bulking,

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Speaker 15: because it's you technically can't mass produce something that's underpatent.

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Speaker 15: Fast forwarding from there, it opened up a gold rush

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Speaker 15: to the entire country because now this is essentially seen

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Speaker 15: as a way for people.

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Speaker 14: To make money.

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Speaker 15: So all of these companies, many of whom were already

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Speaker 15: providing other services to patients, they had big patient databases.

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Speaker 15: They all immediately decided that they were going to do glps.

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Speaker 14: So we call it the GLP gold rush.

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Speaker 15: And the industry was flooded with hundreds of companies, And

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Speaker 15: now it's being flooded with hundreds of people that don't

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Speaker 15: actually come from the healthcare industry. Affiliate marketers, tech people,

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Speaker 15: business people, and they're all trying to create GLP companies

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Speaker 15: as fast as they can to sell the highest quantity

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Speaker 15: at the lowest dollar value of these medications. What I'm

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Speaker 15: seeing these days is a massive commercialization of the entire industry,

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Speaker 15: low quality. They've eliminated the human touch. I've had people

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Speaker 15: tell me that their consultations this is true. Founder of

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Speaker 15: GLP companies that tell me the average time of a

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Speaker 15: consultation is zero point eight seconds.

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Speaker 1: That's barely long enough to vocally say something into a

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Speaker 1: chatbot and let it be read by the other side.

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Speaker 14: I know.

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Speaker 15: But what's happening is they're running it like affiliate marketing.

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Speaker 15: You could think they're just blasting out these performance marketing ads,

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Speaker 15: trying to get the lowest cost for patient acquisition, pay

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Speaker 15: the doctors the lowest amount of money, automate everything they

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Speaker 15: can inside the system, and they're really just trying to

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Speaker 15: make as much money as possible.

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Speaker 14: I mean, that is the fact.

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Speaker 15: So they've removed what I consider to be the most

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Speaker 15: important part of the whole thing, which is the doctor

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Speaker 15: patient connection. It's the relationship between the clinician and the

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Speaker 15: patient on the other side of it, where the magic happens,

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Speaker 15: where the healing happens. And that's been essentially removed or

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Speaker 15: substituted with automated systems so that these businesses can just

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Speaker 15: sell as much as they want want of their high volume,

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Speaker 15: low dollar product. And so for the records, we don't

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Speaker 15: operate that way.

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Speaker 1: What's the fix for that? I mean, how should doctors

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Speaker 1: be how should companies be doing it? And what do

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Speaker 1: you guys do that distinguishes you from that kind of

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Speaker 1: mass chaos.

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Speaker 15: Well, I have got a slight glimpse into what I

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Speaker 15: hope is the future of healthcare regulation because in the

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Speaker 15: state of Iowa they actually started regulating medspas at the state.

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Speaker 14: Medical board level.

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Speaker 15: Now, medspas are not telemedicine companies, but what I hope

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Speaker 15: that's going to do is set a precedent to have

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Speaker 15: regulatory oversight over all businesses that deliver care.

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Speaker 14: Because let me give you an example.

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Speaker 15: If Kevin decides that Kevin wants to make kevin'sglp ones

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Speaker 15: dot com, there's no regulatory agency aside from like the

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Speaker 15: FDA if you illegally market. But if you don't illegally market,

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Speaker 15: there's nobody that can hold you accountable for your practices.

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Speaker 15: Who can I know, who can inspect you and say,

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Speaker 15: Kevin business, No, you have a one second doctor patient encounter.

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Speaker 14: The doctor can get in trouble, but you can't.

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Speaker 15: So my hope is that what we see is that

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Speaker 15: eventually someday all telemedicine companies have to be registered, inspected, audited,

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Speaker 15: and regulated by the state level where they do business,

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Speaker 15: or they can have their business license revoked.

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Speaker 14: That's what I hope.

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Speaker 1: I love that idea. And on that note, doctor Laura Perty,

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Speaker 1: we're out of time, but friends go to Swellcare Health

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Speaker 1: swellcare dot health to find out more about everything that

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Speaker 1: she and her team do. And Laura, we'll see again soon.

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Speaker 14: Thank Kevin, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Kevin mckellach coming right back from Time.

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Speaker 10: Square downboing here he is from New York. Exact Kevin,

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Speaker 10: Kevin McCullough.

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Speaker 1: All right, have you with us. It's that Kevin Show,

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Speaker 1: that kevinshow dot com and you know that. During the week,

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Speaker 1: I of course talk about the big headlines of the day.

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Speaker 1: We talk about the news, we get into all the

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Speaker 1: stuff that's going on in the world, but I also

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Speaker 1: talk about travel. I also talk about wellness. I want

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Speaker 1: to give you tools in your life to help keep

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Speaker 1: you safe and to keep you healthy and to keep

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Speaker 1: you active. And one of the things that I came

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Speaker 1: across a few years ago was this little company called Medjet.

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Speaker 1: I had had a sister that had worked in the

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Speaker 1: travel emergency medical arena. She had been a nurse on

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Speaker 1: a flight ambulance and she had done a lot of

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Speaker 1: work to help people get back to the US when

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Speaker 1: they are injured or deathly sick in another country. And

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Speaker 1: as I was thinking about taking my family on a

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Speaker 1: trip to Italy, I was like, well, what happens if

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Speaker 1: we get over there, and even in a developed country,

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Speaker 1: I don't have what I necessarily need or want. That's

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Speaker 1: where I discovered Medjet. From the moment that I met

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Speaker 1: John and Sherry and the team, I was just so impressed.

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Speaker 1: And now I'm never going to fly my family anywhere

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Speaker 1: without them. I'm not going to travel without them. And

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Speaker 1: now I'm traveling so much more with the new show

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Speaker 1: and being on in seven hundred cities. We've got a

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Speaker 1: lot of things that we've got to do and be

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Speaker 1: in places, and I'm just I'm glad to travel with

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Speaker 1: the protection that Medjet offers us. We were just talking

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Speaker 1: with John Goebbels, who is the CEO, about the Medjet

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Speaker 1: Assist program. But John, you do offer this other thing

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Speaker 1: called Medjet Horizon. And as people have watched the news

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Speaker 1: in recent weeks of what's going on in Mexico, it's

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Speaker 1: not just the fact that the government killed a cartel member,

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Speaker 1: but then there was violence that spread up from that.

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Speaker 1: Americans were told to shelter in place. There's another layer

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Speaker 1: of help that Medjet offers, and it's not always evacuation,

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Speaker 1: but there is a kind of rationale to what you

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Speaker 1: guys do. And what I love more than anything is

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Speaker 1: that you're there twenty four hours a day. I call

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Speaker 1: the number going to get Medjet to give me the

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Speaker 1: right counsel on what I need to do, but walk

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Speaker 1: us through how Medjet Horizon works.

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Speaker 3: So Meget Horizon is kind of an add on membership

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Speaker 3: to our Medjet Assists, which is the air medical program.

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Speaker 3: And what is basically what everybody wants to talk about

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Speaker 3: is the travel security and crisis response portion of that.

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Speaker 3: The Medjet Horizon membership portion is run by focus Point International,

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Speaker 3: who is a great strategic partner of ours. They have

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Speaker 3: got the guys in the call centers that have done

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Speaker 3: this and been around the world doing things that you

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Speaker 3: and I don't do and making those decisions so they

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Speaker 3: can help with that. It does do some other things

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Speaker 3: such some ground transport and antiller items, but really what

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Speaker 3: we want to talk about today, I think is a

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Speaker 3: travel security and crisis response and that provides you access

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Speaker 3: to that team of professionals. As you said, twenty four

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Speaker 3: hours a day, seven days a week. You can call

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Speaker 3: them if you're feeling unsafe at any point and get

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Speaker 3: some real time help. Then may result in an evacuation,

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Speaker 3: security evacuation, or it may not really depending on the

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Speaker 3: scenario and the circumstances of what is going on. But

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Speaker 3: it is a valuable tool to have in the world today.

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Speaker 1: Do you know if you've had any members that have

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Speaker 1: been impacted by the Mexico situation and if you've heard

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Speaker 1: from them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So we've got at least probably seven or eight

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Speaker 3: that have made contact directly with MEGA. Initially we have

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Speaker 3: a group let's say group, but several more and I

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Speaker 3: won't have final numbers really until this is over. The

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Speaker 3: contact and focus point directly which is the proper plan

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Speaker 3: to do. They all of our members have their crisis

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Speaker 3: Response Center number to that and right now at this point,

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Speaker 3: which I think we've seen a lot, is the members

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Speaker 3: are really kind of sheltering in place. It has become

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Speaker 3: very difficult recently to be doing evacuations, certainly in armored vehicles,

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Speaker 3: in anything that looks other than a regular car or

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Speaker 3: truck in Mexico because those are targeted. So there are

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Speaker 3: roadblocks and any of these transport issues that are going on.

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Speaker 3: They're targets and that is a very dangerous place to be.

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Speaker 3: So right now, unless you're kind of going gray or

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Speaker 3: in a way of looking like a national citizen in

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Speaker 3: those type of vehicles that are run down, you're a target.

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Speaker 3: And right now they're not pulling people from hotels and

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Speaker 3: things of that nature. It could escalate to that, but

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Speaker 3: right now, the samest thing to do for our members

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Speaker 3: is to shelter in place they are able to contact

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Speaker 3: and have daily updates from the crisis teams that are

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Speaker 3: monitoring them. There may be some movements to different areas

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Speaker 3: depending on where they're at. They've really got some people

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Speaker 3: that are able to hold their hands through this and

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Speaker 3: really provide that service.

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Speaker 1: What about the Olympics, were there any emergencies that you

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Speaker 1: know of that you guys had medical or otherwise for

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Speaker 1: the people attending there or was that a safe non

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Speaker 1: event for you guys?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, from a security standpoint though, everything was fine as

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Speaker 3: you've seen, and we were our members were very lucky

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Speaker 3: at least medically everything was fine. We actually had had

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Speaker 3: no one from our standpoint contact us for any type

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Speaker 3: of medical transport. So yeah, it was a great Olympics

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Speaker 3: for the US and as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, some gold medal winning there. If people want to

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Speaker 1: add on the Medjet Horizon, how does that change the

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Speaker 1: membership equation for them?

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Speaker 3: Sure, I mean it's really just the pricing, as you said.

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Speaker 3: I mean if we look at an individual Medjet Horizon

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Speaker 3: membership which has the medical transport as well, it's an

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Speaker 3: add on to that. It's only four seventy five for

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Speaker 3: an individual, six fourteen for a family, and that is

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Speaker 3: compared to just the medical transport portion which is three

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Speaker 3: point fifteen and four to twenty five. So it's not

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Speaker 3: a huge add on in cost for a nice dinner

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Speaker 3: out in Italy. Like you said, you can you can

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Speaker 3: have that protection and not have to worry about it

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Speaker 3: and travel in the comfort and security of having mege.

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Speaker 1: What drew you into this line of work? What was

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Speaker 1: it about this that you personally said, I want to

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Speaker 1: be about that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So, I mean personally, my entire life has been

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Speaker 3: in public safety, so you know forire our EMS and

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Speaker 3: law enforcement work for my entire career. Then I got

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Speaker 3: into air medical transport as a critical care nurse, which

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Speaker 3: kind of you know, had me in that position to

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Speaker 3: be able to see all sides, so to speak.

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Speaker 1: And a lot of.

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Speaker 3: Hats, yeah, a lot of different and that's what they

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Speaker 3: would would call me. I had a lot of hats

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Speaker 3: in my office that they got me for that, but

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Speaker 3: really meget was something that gave me the ability to

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Speaker 3: use kind of all of my curriculum that I had

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Speaker 3: in my previous life in all aspects. And it's a

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Speaker 3: company what it says that they do, and that for

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Speaker 3: me is very important. And that's why I've been here

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Speaker 3: almost twenty years now. So you know, we've done thousands

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Speaker 3: and thousands of medical transports and I would never and

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Speaker 3: if I'm not here, I would never travel without it.

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Speaker 1: good work.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, Thank you, sir, I appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: You got it. Kevin mccallach coming right back from Times Square. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: It's that Kevin Show. So glad you're with us. As

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Speaker 1: we round out the second hour of the Wednesday broadcast,

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Speaker 1: we call it Wellness Wednesday sometimes times because we talk

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Speaker 1: about your health and we talk about wellness and what

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Speaker 1: the drawing. A new study is suggesting that middle aged

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Speaker 1: men may be more vulnerable to faster biological aging, potentially

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Speaker 1: linked to exposure to forever chemicals those sound scary. The

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Speaker 1: research published in the journal Frontiers and Aging examined how

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Speaker 1: perfluorocal fulacle and poly flur alocal substances hey you pronounce it,

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Speaker 1: you do any better? More commonly known as pfas, could

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Speaker 1: impact aging at the cellular level. Pfas are synthetic chemicals

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Speaker 1: commonly used in nonstick cookware, food packaging, water resistant fabrics,

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Speaker 1: and other consumer products. According to the study, their chemical

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Speaker 1: structure makes them highly resistant to breaking down, allowing them

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Speaker 1: to accumulate in water, soil, and the human body. Some

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Speaker 1: Chinese researchers analyze blood samples from about three hundred and

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Speaker 1: twenty six adults enrolled in the US National Health and

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Speaker 1: Nutrition Examination Survey between nineteen ninety nine and two thousand

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Speaker 1: and The researchers measured levels of eleven PFA compounds in

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Speaker 1: the participant's blood and use DNA based epigenic epigenetic clocks

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Speaker 1: tools that analyze chemical changes to DNA to estimate biological

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Speaker 1: age to determine how quickly their bodies were aging at

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Speaker 1: the cellular level. The study stated two compounds, the PFNA

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Speaker 1: and the pfosa, were detected in ninety five percent of

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Speaker 1: the participants. Higher concentrations of those chemicals were associated with

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Speaker 1: faster biological aging in men of certain age groups, but

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Speaker 1: not in women. Huh great, so we dudes, we have

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Speaker 1: it affect us more. The compounds most strongly linked to

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Speaker 1: accelerated aging were not the PFAS chemicals that typically received

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Speaker 1: the most public attention. The associations were strongest in adults

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Speaker 1: aged fifty to sixty four, particularly in men, and while

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Speaker 1: this does not establish that pfas cause aging, it suggests

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Speaker 1: that these widely present forever chemicals may be linked to

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Speaker 1: molecular changes. So there you go, guys. It's not fair,

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Speaker 1: but we're aging a little bit faster. And this is why,

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Speaker 1: by the way, I take my balance of nature, all

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Speaker 1: of those phido chemicals in the veggies and the fruits

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Speaker 1: doing all the good fighting on my behalf help offset

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Speaker 1: this stuff. So I'm not saying it's a I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying it's a silver bullet, but I do think that

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Speaker 1: I do think that it makes a difference. So lots

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Speaker 1: and lots and lots of fruits and vegetables can, in

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Speaker 1: my opinion, help offset some of the things that you're

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Speaker 1: seeing in some of these areas. Okay, so that's it

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Speaker 1: for today. We've got a lot that we're going to

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01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 1: get to every day, of course, but thank you for

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Speaker 1: being here. Thank you to Doctor Party, thank you to

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Speaker 1: mister Gobbles, thank you to John i Elo, and thank

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Speaker 1: you to Bishop Nelson for being with us and friends.

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Speaker 1: I just want you to come on back every day.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do everything we can through the most common

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01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:01,600
Speaker 1: sense available, help you you understand the world around you

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01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:03,760
Speaker 1: and then also how you can make a difference in

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Speaker 1: the world as you live in it. And I'm so

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Speaker 1: humbled and honored and grateful to get to go on

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Speaker 1: that journey with you every single day. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: being here, thank you for telling your friends, and thank

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Speaker 1: you for coming on back. Calvin mccallaugh is saying, have

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Speaker 1: a great one and we'll see you next time.