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Speaker 1: kind of build up your mind how to think, think

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Speaker 1: You get the little did do and you're like, well,

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Speaker 1: It is Kevin McCullough. And it's that time in the show,

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Speaker 1: the beginning. This week we're looking at Psalm fifty seven.

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Speaker 1: All right, Dave Watson, always appreciate you brother. Have a

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Speaker 1: It's that Kevin show, that kevinshow dot com, which is

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Speaker 1: where you go if you want to help save a

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Speaker 8: what do I do now? The answer to that question, well,

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Speaker 8: free maternity clothes, baby clothes, diaper, strollers, GRIBs, formula, parenting classes.

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Speaker 8: I mentioned a little real shop there in this center,

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Speaker 8: of Preborn Center north of Dallas. All the clothes, I mean,

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Speaker 8: it's like you walked into a children's department store. I mean,

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Speaker 8: and it's all new clothes. The only thing that isn't new,

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Speaker 8: that's been repurpose is maternity clothes. Some of those things

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Speaker 8: are they've been in anddrect cleane and or whatever. They're

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Speaker 8: all on a rack over there. But these these clothes

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Speaker 8: for kids and different things, toys and whatnot. They have

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Speaker 8: no price tags on them because they're not for sale.

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Speaker 8: There are little tags that are colors. And you have

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Speaker 8: a lime green color, and you have a neon yellow color,

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Speaker 8: and you have a purple color and a pink color,

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Speaker 8: and those represent different levels. And so the girls get

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Speaker 8: free classes, free different things. They come to a parenting

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Speaker 8: class or prenatal class, or how to take care of

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Speaker 8: your body, how to eat right. Every Monday night there

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Speaker 8: is a full catered dinner for the mothers and the fathers. Uh,

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Speaker 8: totally free. Just calm, a fellowship time, all this kind

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Speaker 8: of stuff. Anyway, these things they go to they get

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Speaker 8: these little things, these little chits, and then they go

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Speaker 8: to the store and they purchase no money. They with

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Speaker 8: their education so as their education goes up, their participation

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Speaker 8: goes up, and that's way there's there. It's a holistic approach.

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Speaker 8: It's not just here, load up their car with a

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Speaker 8: bunch of stuff and send them off. We really want

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Speaker 8: them to be healthy, happy, connected, all those things, and

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Speaker 8: so it really is a great thing you could do.

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Speaker 8: It all begins with the ultrasound.

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Speaker 1: Not that our government would ever run a crisis pregnancy center,

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Speaker 1: but if they did, it would not be run anything

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Speaker 1: like that. It would be load everything up, give them,

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Speaker 1: give them the meal ticket, and to send them on

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Speaker 1: their way with no real instruction or hell correct the

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Speaker 1: stipleship or anything. I love everything about what you described.

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Speaker 1: And friends, if you're listening and you hear Scott talking

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Speaker 1: about that, if that, if there's something about that that

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Speaker 1: resonates within you, that twenty eight dollars is even more

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Speaker 1: important from you than other people, because what we do

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Speaker 1: is we end up voting with our dollars about what

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Speaker 1: our heart believes. And if we believe that life is precious,

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Speaker 1: that it starts before birth, that that it's a Christian

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Speaker 1: duty to love children that are in difficult situations, and

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Speaker 1: women too for that matter. As as the early Church

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Speaker 1: did I mean? Saving children has been a distinctively Christian

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Speaker 1: thing throughout the history of the Christian Church, and there's

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Speaker 1: no reason why it shouldn't be even today. So give

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Speaker 1: a gift of two hundred and eighty dollars, you'll provide

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Speaker 1: ultrasounds for ten women and their babies and probably save

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Speaker 1: at least nine to ten lives in the process of

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Speaker 1: doing that. Would you call right now eight three three

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Speaker 1: at eight hundred now eight three three eight five zero

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Speaker 1: b A b y eight three three eight five zero

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Speaker 1: two two two nine, Or you can give online at

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Speaker 1: that kevinshow dot com and click the little banner at

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Speaker 1: the top of the page with the baby's picture on it.

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Speaker 1: Eight three three eight five zero baby eight three three

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Speaker 1: eight five zero two two two nine. Here he is

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Speaker 1: from New York, That Kevin McCullough. All right, welcome back.

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Speaker 1: It's Kevin McCullough, that Kevin Show, that kevinshow dot com.

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Speaker 1: And every day we try to do what we can

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Speaker 1: to apply biblical truth and knowledge to how we live

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Speaker 1: and hopefully it turns us into little agents that go

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Speaker 1: out and change the world in whichever way God has

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Speaker 1: planned us. And wherever we're at exercising what the Reformed

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Speaker 1: Believers call spherical sovereignty, where in the reach of our day,

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Speaker 1: whoever we touch, wherever we come, we want to have

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Speaker 1: spread truth and light and hope to the people that

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Speaker 1: we come into contact with. One of the ways that

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Speaker 1: we're doing that this spring, particularly for you ladies in

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Speaker 1: the New York area, is to host the cohost the

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Speaker 1: conference called Enough at the Christian Cultural Center at the

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Speaker 1: Brooklyn campus. My dear friend, doctor Rabernard passed there for

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Speaker 1: many years, has passed the torch to his son Jamal,

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Speaker 1: and his first lady, Rita, now joins us. She is

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Speaker 1: also part of the ministry there and doing the work.

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Speaker 1: And Rita, this is the first time I think I've

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Speaker 1: ever had you on the show, but thank you for

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Speaker 1: being here.

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Speaker 10: Yes, this is the first thank you for having me.

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Speaker 4: I so appreciate it. You got it.

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Speaker 1: Your father in law casts a very tall shadow, and

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Speaker 1: I know that Jamal has a taller shadow. So I

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Speaker 1: don't think that there's going to be any worry about

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Speaker 1: where things are going to go in the days and

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Speaker 1: weeks and years to come. But we appreciate the relationship

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Speaker 1: between Salem Media and what Christian Cultural Center has meant

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Speaker 1: on the East coast. You know, a lot of people

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Speaker 1: that listen to me out west, they're very familiar with

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Speaker 1: large churches in the San Diego and Los Angeles areas

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Speaker 1: and that sort of thing. But you know, Christian Cultural

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Speaker 1: Center maybe the first megachurch in America and certain one

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Speaker 1: that has left a major imprint in everything that has touched.

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Speaker 1: So let me ask you, with everything that CCC has

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Speaker 1: going on, why are you guys wanting to do this

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Speaker 1: thing with the ladies on February seventh.

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Speaker 10: You know, we haven't you know, Christian Culture Center hasn't

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Speaker 10: done a women's conference in.

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Speaker 4: A few years and.

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Speaker 10: Thought it would be a great way to kick it

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Speaker 10: off again.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 10: Joining with WMCA and Laura, who absolutely love has been

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Speaker 10: so amazing. And being able to work with somebody and

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Speaker 10: not having carried on our own shoulders has also been

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Speaker 10: such a great blessing. And sharing our passion myself and

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Speaker 10: Laura and wanting to do something for women, you know,

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Speaker 10: empowering them and getting you know, a great time of

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Speaker 10: the year, you know, so you know, it was just

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Speaker 10: having these women.

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Speaker 3: At you know, at the very top of our priority

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Speaker 3: has why we've done or wanting.

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Speaker 1: So let me ask you a follow up, What are

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Speaker 1: women in twenty twenty six in January of twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: what are they up against? And how is it different

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Speaker 1: than maybe the generation before them? What are they facing

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Speaker 1: that is that is causing them to ask the question?

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Speaker 1: Am I enough?

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Speaker 10: That's such a good question, I you know, I mean

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Speaker 10: what's similar to pastimes is you know, the whole women

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Speaker 10: just believing, are they keep up?

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Speaker 1: Are they doing it right?

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Speaker 10: You know, all those things, but there's such a cry

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Speaker 10: for help, and you know, I personally want to share

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Speaker 10: my belief my Jesus with them, no and letting women

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Speaker 10: know there is help out there and He's the answer and.

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Speaker 4: There they're looking for that.

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Speaker 10: They're looking for that belief, that faith, and I believe

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Speaker 10: that you know, these women, it doesn't matter the age.

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Speaker 10: The want for it is so much larger than it

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Speaker 10: used to be, and it's just great opportunity for us

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Speaker 10: to grant that.

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Speaker 1: I think that you're right. I talked to several pastors

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Speaker 1: across the Tri State area and really the country now

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Speaker 1: that we've gone up on the network, and they're all

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Speaker 1: telling me the same thing. Then, since COVID, God started

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Speaker 1: doing something in the hearts of people here in North America,

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Speaker 1: and in a way that it wasn't before COVID, when

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Speaker 1: things were good and the economy was good and things

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Speaker 1: were rolling, everything was fine. But there's been a real

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Speaker 1: sense of particularly since the COVID pandemic. And I don't

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Speaker 1: think that the pandemic necessarily is responsible for it, but

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Speaker 1: I think that it opened up our hearts to understand

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Speaker 1: a lot of different aspects of who we are. And

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Speaker 1: it seems like there is a spiritual hunger to know

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Speaker 1: what truth is, to understand it and to try to

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Speaker 1: apply it maybe in ways that we haven't seen in

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Speaker 1: a generation or two in the American home and mind today.

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Speaker 1: Are you guys seeing that at CCC.

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Speaker 10: Yes, absolutely absolutely, And it's wonderful, so amazing, and so

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Speaker 10: it's amazing to be a part of, you know, but

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Speaker 10: it's awesome to see well.

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Speaker 1: And then my pastor followed up by saying, and so

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Speaker 1: we have the option we can sit there on the

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Speaker 1: sidelines and look at it and go, wow, that's really cool,

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Speaker 1: look at what God's doing. Or we can roll our

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Speaker 1: sleeves up and just jump in, like you knows, and

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Speaker 1: that's kind of what the enough conference is all about

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Speaker 1: what should people what should women expect? And I'm encouraging

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Speaker 1: women to come from all over the country to attend this,

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Speaker 1: But what should they expect in that one.

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Speaker 10: Day reconnecting, you know, reconnecting their their relationship with God,

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Speaker 10: understanding and really believing that they are enough that you know,

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Speaker 10: there's that crisis. Enough you don't need much more outside

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Speaker 10: of Him. That's it. He's it, and to be transformed.

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Speaker 4: You know, we we juggle so much in a day,

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Speaker 4: in an hour, you know, and with.

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Speaker 10: Your with your family and your your your all your responsibilities.

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Speaker 10: So you know, this is all going to help to

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Speaker 10: what we're praying that it would help release these anxieties.

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Speaker 4: And all of this weight.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 10: Of course, you know, as long as they be great

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Speaker 10: stewardships of it or you know it just it all

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Speaker 10: could be possible.

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Speaker 1: I love that. And from the women that I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: hearing from, I think that this is going to be

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Speaker 1: a hugely encouraging day. Friends. If you want more info,

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Speaker 1: no matter where you are in the country, go to

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Speaker 1: w mc A dot com. That's my flagship station here

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Speaker 1: in New York City. Uh we are we are the

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Speaker 1: partners hosting with the Christian Cultural Center this once in

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Speaker 1: a lifetime women's event called Enough and can find out

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Speaker 1: more information there and then make plans to be with us.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be an all day thing, and I

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Speaker 1: think you're going to have a wonderful time of uplifting worship,

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Speaker 1: challenge and laughter and empathy from the keynote speakers and

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Speaker 1: a formal uh Fay breakfast and other things that they've

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Speaker 1: got planned. It's just going to be a great day.

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Speaker 1: And guys, if you're listening to me, give give them

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Speaker 1: permission to get out there, take care of the kids

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Speaker 1: that day, Say you go, I got I got everything here.

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Speaker 1: You just go and let all the worries be set

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Speaker 1: aside for mom that one day, because I think it's

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Speaker 1: going to matter to her a great deal. Prieta Bernard,

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Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 3: You got it.

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Speaker 1: Kevin McCullough coming back from Times Square. It's that Kevin show.

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Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere, Let's.

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Speaker 7: Stick around for more of that. Kevin next serving it

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Speaker 7: up with a no drink mittal. It's that Cabin show,

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Speaker 7: all right.

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Speaker 1: Kevin McCalla back with you. I am so so committed

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Speaker 1: to what we are doing with my friends at Preborn

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Speaker 1: this year, in this month of January. And friend, if

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Speaker 1: you have not caught the show the last couple of days,

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Speaker 1: we have just presented a very clear and simple way

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Speaker 1: for you to help us save the lives of twelve

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Speaker 1: hundred babies this year. That's the goal. We want to

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Speaker 1: save twelve hundred babies' lives. How are babies saved via ultrasounds?

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Speaker 1: Being given for free to women who are in crisis pregnancy.

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Speaker 1: They are offered two things, one, a welcoming year, a

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Speaker 1: loving and safe place for them to basically explain what

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Speaker 1: their situation is. And then they say, hey, let's do

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Speaker 1: a blood test, let's do an ultrasound. Let's get you

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Speaker 1: some information so that you know personally what you're doing

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Speaker 1: in what's going on in your body. And what's interesting

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Speaker 1: is you need an ultrasound to get an abortion. And

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Speaker 1: so many of these abortion opportunities that are now being

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Speaker 1: presented are all done via drugs, but you still have

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Speaker 1: to have an ultrasound to prove that you're pregnant to

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Speaker 1: the pharmacist or to the doctor that you go and

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Speaker 1: you get the abortion drugs from.

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Speaker 4: So in a way.

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Speaker 1: The chemical abortions are increasing traffic to the preborn centers

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Speaker 1: where they need more ultrasounds for women who are low income,

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Speaker 1: and for twenty eight dollars you can provide one of those.

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Speaker 1: But let me tell you what happens when they come in.

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Speaker 1: When they come in they may be very dedicated towards

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Speaker 1: aborting their child, but when they get their ultrasound, eighty

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Speaker 1: three percent of the time, between eight and nine out

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Speaker 1: of every ten that come into the center change their

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Speaker 1: mind and say no, I was abortion minded. Now I'm

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Speaker 1: going to keep this baby. I'm going to try to

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Speaker 1: this baby, or I'm going to have this baby and

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Speaker 1: give it to a family for adoption. But I'm going

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Speaker 1: to choose life for this baby, not death. And friends,

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Speaker 1: I love the way they do this. First of all,

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Speaker 1: they save the baby's life. Secondly, when the woman then

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Speaker 1: now has a relationship with the center because she's come

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Speaker 1: in to get the ultrasound, they can provide her up

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Speaker 1: to two years worth of counseling and support and mentoring

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Speaker 1: and discipleship, Introduce her to Jesus, give her skills at

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Speaker 1: balancing checkbooks and making a budget and planning menus and

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Speaker 1: doing all the stuff that a young mom might need

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Speaker 1: help with learning how to do, and she gets that

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Speaker 1: in her life for up to two full years after

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Speaker 1: the baby is born, so two years and nine months

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Speaker 1: if she catches it right at the beginning of the pregnancy.

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Speaker 1: But there's all kinds of other things that the Preborn

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Speaker 1: Centers helped supply formula, baby blankets, diapers, other things that

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Speaker 1: are really important to helping a newborn thrive. And Preborn

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Speaker 1: provides all of that at no cost to the person

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Speaker 1: coming in. If they can't afford it, they if they

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Speaker 1: can't afford it, they provide all of it at no

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Speaker 1: cost because the people of Preborn just love children, they

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Speaker 1: love women, and they want to help. And so that's

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Speaker 1: how that works. But your gift right now two hundred

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Speaker 1: and eighty dollars would save ten babies' lives. Ten children

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Speaker 1: will likely be saved because you give a gift of

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Speaker 1: two hundred and eighty dollars, And we have twelve hundred

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Speaker 1: children that we're trying to save before the end of January,

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Speaker 1: and we're off to a little bit of a slow start.

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Speaker 1: But I know that if you think about this and

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Speaker 1: you think, hey, it's right to life. Month this is

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Speaker 1: the month where they used to celebrate the passage of

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Speaker 1: Roe V. Wade, and they would celebrate and what they

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Speaker 1: would call shout their abortions and all this other stuff. Friends,

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Speaker 1: that's all the negative. We can turn all this to

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Speaker 1: the positive. Eight three three eight five zero baby eight

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Speaker 1: you can go online to that kevinshow dot com. Click

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Speaker 1: the banner at the top of the page. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: see a little baby's face. Click that banner, it'll take

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Speaker 1: you to the landing page. You can give your gift

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Speaker 1: in less than two minutes, and then those ultrasounds that

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Speaker 1: you give will be available for moms that do not

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Speaker 1: have the ability to go and pay for one themselves.

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Speaker 1: That will that will supply them an ultrasound in their

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Speaker 1: in their moment of crisis, in their moment of need.

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Speaker 1: Please go and take care of that.

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Speaker 5: Right now.

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Speaker 1: Somewhere in the bowels of the City that Never.

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Speaker 5: That's Kevin and the Color.

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Speaker 3: And that guy would like a word review.

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Speaker 1: Many of you know him from his vooks for Damas.

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Speaker 3: Dick Tunny and the Dream in Color Orchestraw straight ahead,

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Speaker 3: everything you need to know about the tough headlines of

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Speaker 3: the day and a perspective that will give you some

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Speaker 3: Friday on.

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Speaker 5: That Kevin Show.

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Speaker 3: And now from the Connors in Sullivan Broadcast Studios.

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Speaker 1: The man who is not what he wants to but

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Speaker 1: is way.

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Speaker 5: Grateful that is not who he used to be.

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Speaker 1: Here, all right, Kevin mccaullay, you know we are super

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Speaker 1: excited to have you with us at That Kevin Show,

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Speaker 1: that kevinshow dot Com for everything related to the show.

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Speaker 1: You know that I'm a very grateful person to be

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Speaker 1: a contributor almost daily to Townhall dot com. I write

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Speaker 1: a column it publishes at least four to six times

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Speaker 1: a week. And we try to break down some of

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Speaker 1: the most important things that I'm thinking about and try

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Speaker 1: to give some clarity on how to think about them.

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Speaker 1: But we have a really snazzy news division over at

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Speaker 1: townhall dot com as well, and I just want to

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Speaker 1: highlight something that our colleague Amy Curtis put up just

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Speaker 1: a little bit ago today if actually broke the story.

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Speaker 1: In some exclusive footage obtained by townhall dot Com, evidence

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Speaker 1: is emerging suggesting that migrants from the West African nation

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Speaker 1: of Mauritania are exploiting the US immigration and asylum system

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Speaker 1: in Lachland, Ohio, raising questions about the integrity and the

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Speaker 1: oversight of our process now. The footage includes allegations that

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Speaker 1: some migrants are being coached on how to navigate the

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Speaker 1: asylum system, encouraged to fabricate claims to meet legal thresholds,

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Speaker 1: and informed, according to sources on the ground, that favorable

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Speaker 1: rulings can be secured through illicit means. They're buying their

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Speaker 1: way in, is what they're doing. These claims point to

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Speaker 1: systemic vulnerabilities that make the immigration system susceptible to abuse

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Speaker 1: and corruption. At the center of the operation is Patricia Golder, who,

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Speaker 1: according to the footage has turned the alleged manipulation of

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Speaker 1: the asylum process into her business. Golder says she takes

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Speaker 1: a portion of the pay given to the Mauritanian migrants

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Speaker 1: in exchange for helping them navigate the system, and she

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Speaker 1: claims she can bribe judges to rule in the migrants favor.

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Speaker 1: The footage also suggests that many of the migrants involve

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Speaker 1: neither embrace nor intend to adopt core American values, even

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Speaker 1: as they access public resources designed to protect legitimate asylum seekers.

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Speaker 1: The video that town Hall has obtained is a twenty

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Speaker 1: six minute length piece. The undercover reporter is introduced to

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Speaker 1: Golder by one of Golder's friends. That person's identified as

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Speaker 1: Cindy Reyes, who says Golder helps Mauritanian migrants get their papers.

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Speaker 1: This is what she says. She gets them their papers.

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Speaker 1: She does. Reyes says, before introducing the reporter Golder, he

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Speaker 1: knows about Mulberry Street. Golder then says, I try to

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Speaker 1: work with them the best I can. You know, we're

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Speaker 1: talking about maybe getting them some work. The reporter tells Golder, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm gonna do. The Golder replies, and then

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Speaker 1: she says, the question is do they have papers or not.

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Speaker 1: The reporter asks, some of them have papers, some don't.

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Speaker 1: Golder says, for those that don't have paper, we pay

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Speaker 1: them cash and then we can make an authorization where

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Speaker 1: you say they volunteer and you pay them. Golder says

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Speaker 1: that to the migrants work at big companies, she has

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Speaker 1: to sign for them, but Golder declines to name the companies.

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Speaker 1: Then she says, I have to say I can't do that.

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Speaker 1: That's because of the threat of ice. So they don't

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Speaker 1: want me to leak, because Ice would go there and

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Speaker 1: take them away. Ice don't play. Golder and Reyes know

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Speaker 1: they're working with illegals. In this bit of video, Rayes

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Speaker 1: tells the reporter, you got to work under the radar.

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Speaker 1: Golder admits they don't have the paperwork. The reporter says,

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Speaker 1: I thought they were legal. Golder laughs and replies, no,

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Speaker 1: how do Mauritanian migrants get into the United States? They

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Speaker 1: cross the border illegally. How did they get here? Then

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Speaker 1: the reporter asks, they came through the Panama Canal and

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Speaker 1: walk under the ground. Many people died, many people live.

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Speaker 1: Golder explained it costs as much as five thousand to

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Speaker 1: make the crossing. You have to pay the Mexican to

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Speaker 1: navigate across the border, says Golder. Later, the reporter meets

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Speaker 1: with Golder at a residence where she talks about her

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Speaker 1: business of helping Mauritanian migrants get jobs and navigate immigration systems.

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Speaker 1: This is how I do my business, Golder explains. You

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Speaker 1: start work for me, you have agreement you have to sign.

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Speaker 1: If you broke this agreement, that's on you. That agreement,

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Speaker 1: Golder says, includes not calling the police or ICE. Anything

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Speaker 1: that happened here stays here. If you call ICE. If

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Speaker 1: you call the police, once police come on the property

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Speaker 1: where you work and it's your fault, you gotta go.

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Speaker 1: You call Ice, I'm shipping your blank back to Africa,

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Speaker 1: Golder says. Golder and the reporter are joined by a

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Speaker 1: Mauritanian national who says he worked for Walmart for four months,

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Speaker 1: where he makes eighteen an hour. The man explained how

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Speaker 1: he left Africa Mauritania, Turkey, Turkey, Guatemala. Me take two

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Speaker 1: day into Turkey, me past me, come in here, me,

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Speaker 1: come in Tijuana. We got guys in the mulberry every day.

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Speaker 1: Come in here, the man says, because I was going

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Speaker 1: to go up there and get me at least twenty

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Speaker 1: guys Today they trust me where they would give.

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Speaker 4: Me their ID.

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Speaker 1: So I will take information down and then their phone

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Speaker 1: number and tell them when me text you you're in.

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Speaker 1: Golder explains how she fills out the paperwork for the

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Speaker 1: migrants I call immigration. She says, Okay, I have this

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Speaker 1: person and he has a a six numbers. What should

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Speaker 1: I pull for him? Golder says, referring to the immigration

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Speaker 1: form she needs to pull. Once the migrant is issued

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Speaker 1: a work permit, Golder uses that information to fill out

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Speaker 1: a Social Security form. You put the eight number right there.

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Speaker 1: Then social Security will mail you their card. So all

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Speaker 1: cards come to me. So when they're when they get

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Speaker 1: their card, you issue their card. On payday, you give

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Speaker 1: it to them. This is how migrants get driver's licenses.

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Speaker 1: You take the same Social Security card number when they

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Speaker 1: get the Social Security then you go ahead and get

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Speaker 1: the ID. Golder says on the video She's done this

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Speaker 1: a lot. I fill out their citizenship paper. She says,

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Speaker 1: just like what me do for me. Brother. If social

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Speaker 1: Security flags an application, Golder says, they send it back

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Speaker 1: to her and she knows how to circumvent the system.

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Speaker 1: If you know this guy is not named that person,

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Speaker 1: but he's using that person's name. If you send this

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Speaker 1: to Cleveland, you're going to have to send the other

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Speaker 1: one to Cincinnati. They need jobs, Golder says, I get

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Speaker 1: them jobs. They find a way to go to work.

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Speaker 1: Hospital pays twenty four an hour. I pay twenty. Every

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Speaker 1: four dollars off of every hour is mine, she says.

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Speaker 1: That's how I get my pay. Golder also says she

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Speaker 1: helps veterans, but for a price. I fight for veterans.

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Speaker 1: She tells the reporter, like, say, a veteran come and

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Speaker 1: he's not getting all of his assistants. I fill out

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Speaker 1: his paperwork and he gets all of his assistants. If

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Speaker 1: they get ten thousand dollars in assistance, a third of

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Speaker 1: it is mine. Friends, This story goes on incredibly, and

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Speaker 1: it is wild to think that someone is doing this

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Speaker 1: to their fellow Americans. But she's robbing you, she's robbing

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Speaker 1: the illegal migrants, and she's robbing the veterans. This is unacceptable,

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Speaker 1: and I hope that the Attorney General in the state

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Speaker 1: of Ohio is notified of this. In fact, if you're

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Speaker 1: listening to me in Ohio today. I want you to

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Speaker 1: call the state Attorney General's office. I want you to

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Speaker 1: call the Governor's office. I want you to use Golder's name.

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Speaker 1: I want you to use Reyes's name. I will put

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Speaker 1: the article on my social media. I want you to

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Speaker 1: go and grab the link. I want you to send

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Speaker 1: it to the law enforcement authorities in in Ohio, in

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Speaker 1: the town that this is all taking place in Lachland.

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Speaker 1: I want you to call the FBI in Lachland. I

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Speaker 1: want you to call the closest agency of immigration because

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Speaker 1: we cannot let fellow Americans just betray us this way,

878
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 1: and it is vital that the proper authorities are alerted

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Speaker 1: and that this behavior ends immediately. So going to do

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Speaker 1: all that, put all that up on social media. But

881
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Speaker 1: the name of the article is exclusive bombshell footage claims

882
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Speaker 1: judges can be bought with bribes in Ohio immigration courts.

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Speaker 1: And it's not just the judges, but they're filling ou

884
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Speaker 1: out the false forms, they're skimming off the top, they're

885
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Speaker 1: ripping the veterans off of about one third of what

886
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Speaker 1: they should be earning. And this just makes my stomach sick.

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Speaker 1: We will stay on top of this for the next

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Speaker 1: several days, I promise you, but please, please please, if

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Speaker 1: you live in Ohio, if you're hearing me in Ohio,

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Speaker 1: call your local authorities, Call the authorities of Lachland, Call

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Speaker 1: your state attorney general, call the governor's office, and get

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Speaker 1: them on this. This cannot be allowed to continue. Kevin mccallough,

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Speaker 1: that Kevin Show, don't go out.

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Speaker 8: Here.

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Speaker 5: He is from New York.

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Speaker 1: That n Come on, all right, welcome.

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Speaker 5: It is.

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Speaker 1: Wednesday, and on Wednesdays we kind of set aside the headline.

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Speaker 1: Normally we kind of set aside the headlines and focus

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Speaker 1: on something related to health. But today health is in

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Speaker 1: the headlines because we have just surpassed the one year

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Speaker 1: anniversary since President Trump has been back in office. And

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Speaker 1: as I said, as I mentioned in my monologue, friends,

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Speaker 1: I was so blown away by his speech at Davos

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Speaker 1: this morning, because when you talk about all of the

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Speaker 1: things that he's done, and when you talk about the

907
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Speaker 1: mannerisms with which he discusses them and who he's been,

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Speaker 1: this is not This is not the same brash guy

909
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Speaker 1: that everybody got upset with his style in twenty sixteen.

910
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Speaker 1: This is a guy who really in so many ways

911
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Speaker 1: is just seeing the world as it should be, and

912
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Speaker 1: he's trying his dead level best to move the pieces

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Speaker 1: in place to try to bring that about for everybody.

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Speaker 1: And I just think that that's an amazing and wonderful gift,

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Speaker 1: not just to America but to our world at this time.

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Speaker 1: We'll get more into this as we go along, but

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Speaker 1: it is Wednesday, and we do talk wellness. And because

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Speaker 1: it's the one year anniversary, I want to bring doctor

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Speaker 1: Moniqui Johnnan back to the microphone. She's part of the

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Speaker 1: Independent Women's Forum. We love those ladies over there, can't

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Speaker 1: get enough of them on my show on a regular basis.

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Speaker 1: But doctor Wenahan, I'm doctor Johannan rather, thank you for

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Speaker 1: coming back. Appreciate it. You've been impressed as a as

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Speaker 1: an MD, as someone who has worked with the elderly,

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Speaker 1: as someone who's worked with medicaid, as someone who has

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Speaker 1: given this current administration lots of kind of targets and

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Speaker 1: aims to shoot for. You've been a very close observer

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Speaker 1: of where the Trump administration has taken health care in

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Speaker 1: this first year back. What grade would you give the

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Speaker 1: administration and why?

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Speaker 8: A plus?

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Speaker 11: You know, A plus and then some is there a

933
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Speaker 11: higher grade than that. You know, what I would say

934
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Speaker 11: is the reason I would wish that there going to

935
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Speaker 11: be a higher grade is that you really have everything

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Speaker 11: that started in his first term. In President Trump's first term,

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Speaker 11: he made so many efforts on healthcare to improve transparency,

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Speaker 11: to improve the information that consumers would get. And then

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Speaker 11: President Biden decided not to enforce any of that, not

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Speaker 11: to implement any of those rules or any.

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Speaker 5: Of those laws.

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Speaker 11: So when he came in, I think it was let's

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Speaker 11: get rid of the COVID nonsense and let's actually start

944
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Speaker 11: implementing all the things that came from the first term.

945
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Speaker 11: So there's so much that he has been able to

946
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Speaker 11: get started already, and you know, I wish that Congress

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Speaker 11: would do more, but he had done so much already

948
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Speaker 11: from the first term that a lot of this is

949
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Speaker 11: just getting a running start in implementing what he had

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Speaker 11: already started many years ago. Let's have people in America

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Speaker 11: paying basically what people in the rest of the developed

952
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Speaker 11: world are paying. So what you are going to see,

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Speaker 11: and most of the pharmaceutical companies have signed on already,

954
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Speaker 11: is that there's going to be a dramatic drop in

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Speaker 11: pricing for many of the more expensive drugs. And this

956
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Speaker 11: really was President Trump putting pressure on these companies saying,

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Speaker 11: you cannot gouge American consumers. So that direct benefit is

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Speaker 11: that you're going to be able to either through your insurance,

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Speaker 11: be able to get a fair price for many drugs.

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Speaker 11: One of big things that President Trump has done is

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Speaker 11: directly putting pressure on the drug manufacturers to stop gouging

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Speaker 11: American consumers. So basically most favored nation pricing. What it

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Speaker 11: really means is if you are a drug manufacturer, you

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Speaker 11: cannot get away with charging less to Germany, to Japan,

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Speaker 11: to the rest of the world, and charging more to Americans.

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Speaker 11: So he's gotten most of the pharmaceutical company to sign on,

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Speaker 11: and whether it's through insurance or being able to buy

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Speaker 11: directly through the manufacturer through the Trump Health site that

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Speaker 11: he's setting up, you will be able to get better

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Speaker 11: prices on most drugs.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 1: One of the things I wasn't aware of until I

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Speaker 1: heard him talking about it at Davos this morning was

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Speaker 1: saying that the drug companies actually just believed that Americans

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Speaker 1: just should pay more because the rest of the countries

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Speaker 1: won't and America can and so they had just been

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Speaker 1: charging us five, ten, twenty times the price that France,

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Speaker 1: for example, had been, And not only did he tell

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Speaker 1: the drug company, you have to charge us less, he

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Speaker 1: went to France and said, you might have to pay

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Speaker 1: a little more for the drug company to break even,

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Speaker 1: but you paying a little bit more is very preferable

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Speaker 1: to us paying lots and lots and lots more. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I was stunned at how kind of just accepted all

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Speaker 1: of this corruption was built into the system.

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Speaker 11: Well, I think that this is really the strength that

987
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Speaker 11: President Trump brings to these negotiations. I think that there

988
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Speaker 11: have been plenty of administrations that have been willing to

989
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Speaker 11: roll over. That is not how this president rolls. That

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Speaker 11: He really was willing to go and put the pressure

991
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Speaker 11: on these drug companies to do the right thing. But

992
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Speaker 11: because you're right, they were charging it, because they could

993
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Speaker 11: get away with it, because no other administration had had

994
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Speaker 11: the guts to confront them on it.

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Speaker 1: Well, and knowing that other countries were involved, I mean,

996
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Speaker 1: and they you know, he kind of mocked himself having

997
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Speaker 1: a conversation with Macron, but it was like, you know, no,

998
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Speaker 1: mister President, we don't want to do that. It's going

999
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Speaker 1: to double the cost for my constituents. And he was

1000
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 1: basically like, okay, thirty percent tariff on everything else and

1001
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: one hundred percent tariff on your champagne and wine, and

1002
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, mister Macrone was very willing to

1003
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 1: just do whatever the president wanted to do at that

1004
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Speaker 1: point in time. And this kind of leverage has existed

1005
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: for every president that's been in office.

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Speaker 11: Well, that's right, and you know, we have to remember

1007
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 11: we are the United States of America, and with great

1008
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 11: power comes great responsibility. But we have not been able

1009
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 11: to exercise our power because we have not been willing

1010
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Speaker 11: to do that. And President Trump is really stepping forward

1011
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 11: and saying, we are the United States, Let's act like it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think where this is going to be most encouraging,

1013
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Speaker 1: particularly on the drug stuff, is on the developing things

1014
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Speaker 1: that really hit people, you know, hard cancer drugs, Alzheimer's treatments,

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Speaker 1: things that you know, can be you know, hundreds, if

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Speaker 1: not thousands of dollars a dose, and if we can,

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Speaker 1: if we can make all of that come down. And

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Speaker 1: he was using a percentage today he said, in some instances,

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Speaker 1: maybe two thousand percent lower in cost than what they

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Speaker 1: had started out at. I mean, doctor Johannan, that's that's

1021
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Speaker 1: an incredible amount of savings. If we're talking about anywhere

1022
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Speaker 1: from ninety eight percent to two thousand percent of what

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Speaker 1: the price currently is.

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Speaker 4: This is not an exaggeration.

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Speaker 11: Really, the way that we are being gouged by these companies,

1026
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Speaker 11: the way that they have been willing to take advantage this.

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Speaker 11: The more you know about it, the angrier you get.

1028
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Speaker 11: And I think, you know, this is why the president

1029
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 11: has been successful, is that he hasn't gotten angry. He's

1030
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Speaker 11: just gone and said, this is the way it's going

1031
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 11: to be, and you know, really showing that kind of

1032
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 11: strength that is what people respond to. And when I

1033
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 11: say he deserves an A plus, it is the willingness

1034
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 11: to show strength. That is how you get proper negotiations

1035
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 11: and where you get an outcome that puts Americans first.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And what I think really bothered me was is

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Speaker 1: you have politicians constantly talking about the cost of these things,

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Speaker 1: particularly for people on fixed incomes. But doctor Johannan, you

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Speaker 1: you were in geriatrics, you dealt with people that were

1040
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Speaker 1: advanced stages of age. The fixed income thing is a

1041
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 1: real challenge. That's an honest reality and gouging those people

1042
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Speaker 1: in particular. I mean, it's one thing if you're hitting

1043
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Speaker 1: a forty five year old man who's at the peak

1044
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: of his earning season. But you know, for people that

1045
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 1: are living on Social Security, like the choices do I

1046
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 1: live or do I, you know, suffer, and it's like,

1047
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Speaker 1: we don't want that to be their case.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

1049
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Speaker 11: And when you look at it, there are people who

1050
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Speaker 11: would say, oh, it's drugs are only ten percent of

1051
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 11: the charges. You tell that to a grandmother or somebody

1052
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 11: who's on Social Security. The people who are in older

1053
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 11: age groups, the drug costs are such an important part

1054
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Speaker 11: of their monthly stage. People are making that decision between

1055
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 11: am I going to eat or am I going to

1056
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Speaker 11: get my medications. So we want people to be as

1057
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 11: healthy as possible, to be as functional as possible.

1058
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Speaker 4: They need to have their medications covered.

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Speaker 11: And the people who are most full, those were the

1060
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Speaker 11: people being hurt the most by these drug company actions.

1061
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Speaker 11: And so really just forcing this using the free market,

1062
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Speaker 11: using our ability to negotiate with them. And you're right

1063
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 11: about other countries taking advantage of the largesse of the

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Speaker 11: United States.

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Speaker 4: Those days are over.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and thank god they are. He used the word

1067
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 1: usury in his description of this process today, and I thought,

1068
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Speaker 1: I haven't heard of president use that word in a

1069
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 1: very very long time, if ever. But it's true. That's

1070
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 1: exactly what seems like was going on. We're speaking with

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01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:40,919
Speaker 1: doctor monikiohnnon of the Independent Women's Forum, Doctor Muhannan, MD.

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01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 1: She knows her stuff, but she's also been very actively

1073
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 1: involved in policy, and we're going to talk a little

1074
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 1: bit more about what the Great Healthcare Plan looks like

1075
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: and how it will be different. It's going to touch

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01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 1: almost every area of healthcare. I'm looking at the fact

1077
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 1: sheet on the White House's website and it's got at

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Speaker 1: least twelve or fifteen different areas of policy that it's

1079
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Speaker 1: going to impact, and hopefully that's going to be a

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Speaker 1: win for Americans on every level. Stay with us, We're

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Speaker 1: coming right back to point. Let's stick around for more

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Speaker 1: of that.

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Speaker 7: Kevin next.

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Speaker 1: Here he is from New York.

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Speaker 4: That Kevin.

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Speaker 5: Kevin McCullough.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back. I'm Kevin McCully. Glad you're with us.

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Speaker 1: You can find everything related to the show at that

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Speaker 1: kevinshow dot com. And on Wednesday, we like to take

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Speaker 1: a look at the healthcare side of things. We want

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Speaker 1: we want to address the whole issue of health. But

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Speaker 1: today we're kind of we're kind of staying with the

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Speaker 1: news because the administration has put forward what they call

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Speaker 1: the Great Healthcare Plan. The President is very high on it.

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Speaker 1: He seemed very very high on it as he was

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Speaker 1: giving his speech at in Davos this morning. And I

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Speaker 1: have to just tell you, friends, if you're listening, if

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Speaker 1: you missed what he said. I've never heard an American

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Speaker 1: president just baldface call people out across the world and

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Speaker 1: uh and call him on their bad behavior. And he

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Speaker 1: did it today in a way that was not It

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Speaker 1: was not elitist in its feel. It was very It

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Speaker 1: seemed like he was genuinely trying to get a point across,

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Speaker 1: but without being unnecessarily harsh. But he didn't let them

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Speaker 1: get away with the bad behavior, and he called it

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Speaker 1: what it was, which I found to be incredibly encouraging

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Speaker 1: because I don't know that we've had a lot of

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Speaker 1: presidents that have been willing to do that, you know,

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Speaker 1: hold your nose and just go along with it. Has

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Speaker 1: been seemingly the foreign policy of a lot of presidents

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Speaker 1: prior to him, from both parties. But we're talking about

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Speaker 1: the Great Healthcare Plan. And doctor Moniqui Johannon, MD, geriatric

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Speaker 1: specialist worked with Medicare and Medicaid. You've given the Congress

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Speaker 1: and the administration in this term some thoughts on what

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Speaker 1: they need to do. And wherever you go and whoever

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Speaker 1: you talk to, how you fund healthcare? Is the number

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Speaker 1: one thing related to this subject? And is there such

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Speaker 1: a thing? Is insurance reform or can Obamacare be reformed

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Speaker 1: to accommodate stuff that probably shouldn't be doing? How do

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Speaker 1: you get insurance premiums under control? Because we were promised

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Speaker 1: that Obamacare was going to do that and it was

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Speaker 1: going to bring everybody's costs down, and exactly the opposite

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Speaker 1: has happened. Everybody's costs have skyrocket. And what's what's the

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Speaker 1: plan for all this? So doctor johann and you've you've

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Speaker 1: looked at what the president wants to do here, what's

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Speaker 1: his x's and o's, what's the actual strategy to lower

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Speaker 1: insurance premiums?

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Speaker 5: Sure?

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Speaker 11: And we also we're all going to keep our own doctors, right,

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Speaker 11: everything was gone.

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Speaker 1: That's what they told us. If you like your doctor,

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Speaker 1: you can keep it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: So, really, what the president has done is he's set

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Speaker 11: up a plan for things that the government can do

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Speaker 11: right now, and he's laid laid down the gauntlet for

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Speaker 11: Congress too. So again, when you look at the first term,

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Speaker 11: and he had, for example, the Hospital Transparency Rule that

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Speaker 11: he put into place, the Transparency and Coverage Rule, a

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Speaker 11: lot of this is really about if individuals and if

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Speaker 11: the employers who buy insurance for them, if they're going

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Speaker 11: to make decisions, they need to see the prices. How

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Speaker 11: radical is that right that if they're going to be

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Speaker 11: able to negotiate with an insurance company and give a

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Speaker 11: good price, they deserve to know actually.

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Speaker 4: What things cost.

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Speaker 11: They're already rules in place for this that we can

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Speaker 11: start to enforce. And then we also have, for example,

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Speaker 11: then No Surprises Act that people should know upfront what

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Speaker 11: they're part of the bill is going to be and

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Speaker 11: what is the insurance company going to cover. So when

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Speaker 11: you look at this, between enforcing the rules that were

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Speaker 11: already on book, the books to make the hospital, to

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Speaker 11: make the insurance companies give you information upfront, but also

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Speaker 11: to give the consumer an estimate up front of what

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Speaker 11: the price is going to be that you cannot start

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Speaker 11: to negotiate with people on price if you don't get

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Speaker 11: to know the price at its most basic. These are

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Speaker 11: rules that are already in place No Surprises Act, for example,

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Speaker 11: President Biden chose not to enforce the consumer parts of

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Speaker 11: that Act that will get those real prices. President Trump said, no,

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Speaker 11: that has to stop. You need to actually get that

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Speaker 11: information now. I think the other part is that looking

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Speaker 11: at Medicare and Medicaid, there is an expectation that there's

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Speaker 11: going to be accountability that if you do not give

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Speaker 11: information in plain English and display it prominently, that you're

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Speaker 11: not going to be in compliance with Medicare and Medicaid.

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Speaker 11: So really trying to force people to do the right thing. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 11: the insurance fact cats have not been willing to do

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Speaker 11: the right thing on their own. And so he's saying,

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Speaker 11: we're going to start enforcing the rules that we already

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Speaker 11: have in place. So in so many ways, I think

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Speaker 11: the first step to decreasing prices, to making things more

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Speaker 11: affordable is you have to know what price is. You

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Speaker 11: don't know if you're being overcharged, if you don't even

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Speaker 11: get the bill.

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Speaker 1: Well, and that's the thing, and it was a colleague

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Speaker 1: of yours from independent women that I had on a

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Speaker 1: few weeks ago, and I'm forgetting which one it was,

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Speaker 1: but she was saying basically that as a woman who

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Speaker 1: goes for an exam, whether it's a regular checkup or

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Speaker 1: preventative or whatever, she comes to the payment counter and

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Speaker 1: literally has no idea if the procedure is eight dollars,

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Speaker 1: eighty dollars or eight thousand dollars. And you can point

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Speaker 1: to actual hospitals where in one department with one doctor

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Speaker 1: it's eight dollars, and it's eight hundred dollars two departments

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Speaker 1: over with a different doctor, and it's the same procedure. This,

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Speaker 1: this kind of inconsistency is mind blowing given that you know,

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Speaker 1: we supposedly have we're supposed to have transparency and an

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Speaker 1: understanding and you know, be kind of savvy consumers in America.

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Speaker 1: But the snow job that they've tried to pull on

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Speaker 1: us with this is really outland. I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: it verges on criminality at times.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely.

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Speaker 11: You know, for example, say you need an MRI for

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Speaker 11: low back pain. If you get that MRI done in

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Speaker 11: a hospital at my cost, you four thousand dollars and

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Speaker 11: then if you go to a local place that's in town,

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Speaker 11: same imaging, maybe even the same doctor, it'll cost a

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Speaker 11: few hundred dollars. That there are such wild variations in

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Speaker 11: prices for reasons that you know, to actually even suggest

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Speaker 11: there's a real reason wouldn't be true. They're charging it

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Speaker 11: because they can get away with it. And he said,

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Speaker 11: you have to put a stock to that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, and we absolutely have to. All Right, one

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Speaker 1: more segment with doctor Moniqui Johanna and stay with us.

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Speaker 1: Kevin mccaullough, glad you're here.

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Speaker 7: Here he is from New York, exact ken Kevin McCullough,

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Speaker 7: welcome back.

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Speaker 1: So glad to be able to be with you and

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Speaker 1: to have such a brilliant, articulate person to explain to

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Speaker 1: us the great healthcare plan that the administration has put forward.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Monique Johannon a senior fellow with the Independent Women's

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Speaker 1: Forum and doing great work, you reader at town Hall,

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Speaker 1: you reader in other places. But she's got some really

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Speaker 1: important things to say as someone with a very varied

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Speaker 1: background in medicine, as a private practice doctor, someone who

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Speaker 1: specializes in geriatrics, someone who's worked on policies related to

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Speaker 1: Medicaid and medicare, someone who's even tried to encourage this

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Speaker 1: administration to adopt certain ideas and has had some success

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Speaker 1: with all of those, all of the above, doctor Johannan,

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Speaker 1: I want to stay on the insurance problem for a second,

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Speaker 1: because this is really, I think the thing that besets

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Speaker 1: American healthcare more than anything else. The fraud, the confusion.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of all purposeful, keep everybody confused, use then

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Speaker 1: nobody really knows what anything actually costs, et cetera. Price

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Speaker 1: transparency is going to fix that. Requiring people to post

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Speaker 1: what prices are is going to fix that. But there

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Speaker 1: is this other element, and on the website they call

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Speaker 1: it cutting kickback costs. How prominent is our kickbacks in healthcare?

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Speaker 1: Like business relationships and someone introducing someone to someone else

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Speaker 1: and getting a big for it. We kind of understand

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Speaker 1: that concept, but why would healthcare ever operate in any

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Speaker 1: way like that?

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Speaker 11: Kevin, It's great that you've brought that up, and I

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Speaker 11: would say the problem with kickbacks is we have a

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Speaker 11: system right now that is set up to reward middlemen.

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Speaker 11: That our system is so big, and we have decided

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Speaker 11: to give a lot of power to a bunch of middlemen.

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Speaker 11: So one example of those kinds of middlemen are pharmacy

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Speaker 11: benefit managers. And when you talk about what they do,

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Speaker 11: will they negotiate directly with pharmaceutical companies and they get

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Speaker 11: a kick back from the pharmaceutical company for putting the

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Speaker 11: drug onto the formulary to make it available to you.

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Speaker 11: They also are the people who are in the middle

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Speaker 11: between the pharmacy and the insurance company and they basically

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Speaker 11: get a kickback from the pharmacy in order to be

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Speaker 11: for the pharmacy to be able to get patients sent

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Speaker 11: to them. So in every way, what we are saying

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Speaker 11: that they're middlemen throughout the system who have found ways

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Speaker 11: to pull kickbacks, to pull incentives that benefit them but

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Speaker 11: hurt the consumer.

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Speaker 1: And we haven't talked about this, doctor Johannan, but I'd

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Speaker 1: like to know your thoughts. My bride has forever had

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Speaker 1: a real like it is a visceral repugnance.

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Speaker 4: It is not a passing.

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Speaker 1: I just don't like that. It is like when the

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Speaker 1: thing comes on, she's like turn it off. She doesn't

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Speaker 1: want to hear the audio from the television commercial that

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Speaker 1: the drug company is running. And when you see one

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Speaker 1: of these things, and the guy says, you know, in tests,

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Speaker 1: this drug has been shown to help with the symptoms

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Speaker 1: of and fill in the blank. Possible side effects are

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Speaker 1: another thirty five seconds of the sixty second commercial, you know,

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Speaker 1: your eyes may explode, violent diarrhea, brain tumors, like and

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Speaker 1: You're like, why are we putting this type of material

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Speaker 1: into the ether? It seems to me to be kind

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Speaker 1: of a cart before the horse thing in a way

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Speaker 1: that's just not helpful. And it's because it's big business.

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Speaker 1: I get it. People want to get their kickbacks. I

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Speaker 1: get it, but is it what's good for the patient?

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Speaker 11: Well, Kevin, first of all, when you say it doesn't

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Speaker 11: make any sense, if it doesn't make sense to you,

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Speaker 11: then you were actually understanding it perfect.

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Speaker 4: This is a series of kickbacks.

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Speaker 11: There's no other way.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 11: I'm not an attorney, and so as a non attorney

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Speaker 11: that I can't come up with a better phrase for it.

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Speaker 11: I'm sure there's some legal maneuver that people have used

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Speaker 11: to make it legal, but is it the right thing?

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Speaker 11: Even let's say for the moment we can see that

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Speaker 11: it's legal, is it the right thing?

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Speaker 8: Now?

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Speaker 11: When I look at those commercials, to me, those commercials

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Speaker 11: really are not so much even for the consumer. They

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Speaker 11: are to basically push the insurance companies to make sure

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Speaker 11: that they hate those drugs appear in the formulary. They

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Speaker 11: are again part of making it easier for middlemen to

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Speaker 11: make a profit in this The system has gotten so

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Speaker 11: big that people think it can't fail. Well, the reality

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Speaker 11: is it can't fail unless people confront it. And literally,

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Speaker 11: President Trump, through the Great American Health Plan, has said,

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Speaker 11: we are tired of these kickbacks, whether you call them rebates,

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Speaker 11: whether you call them spread pricing. RFK Junior has specifically

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Speaker 11: targeted the idea of these advert advertisements for drugs. They

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Speaker 11: are not helpful. All they do is increase prices. They

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Speaker 11: take the power away from the consumer. And when I

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Speaker 11: think a big picture, what does the Great American Healthcare

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Speaker 11: Plan get at, it's can we put patients? Can we

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Speaker 11: put people at the center of this system? Can we

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Speaker 11: stop making middleman get rich? If you look at it

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Speaker 11: at its core, that's what that's what these reforms are about.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think that you understand it better than most

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Speaker 1: people have even tried to explain it to the American people.

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Speaker 1: And I'm grateful for that, but I'm kind of with

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Speaker 1: my bride on this those commercials, they just make me

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Speaker 1: utterly sick. And that's not even including the content, Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to think about all those side effects,

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Speaker 1: and it seems like the side effects far out weigh

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Speaker 1: whatever benefit they've supposedly touted in the first ten seconds

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Speaker 1: of the commercial, when you're spending the next forty seconds

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Speaker 1: explaining all the things that could go wrong. And I really,

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Speaker 1: I really want that discussion to be done in private

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Speaker 1: between patients and doctors. I want the doctor to say, hey,

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Speaker 1: there are some options here and here's what they are.

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Speaker 1: But I don't want it because oh, his his practice

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Speaker 1: is going to get you know, Benny for you know,

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Speaker 1: getting twelve people on you know, Jardiance this this month

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Speaker 1: as opposed to last month. I don't know that that's

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Speaker 1: how it works, but if it's anything even akin to that,

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Speaker 1: or even you know, surface level touching it, I don't

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Speaker 1: want that because I want I want the doctors thinking

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Speaker 1: about what will truly help the patient the best and

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Speaker 1: take it from there. What else We've got sixty seconds left,

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Speaker 1: doctor Moynane, doctor Johanna, And I don't know why I

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Speaker 1: keep calling you moin an what what is your What

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Speaker 1: is one other thing about this plan that you like

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Speaker 1: that we haven't been able to talk about yet.

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Speaker 11: You know, I really think again, these are about market

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Speaker 11: based solutions. And yes there's some new laws that would

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Speaker 11: be helpful, like Marshall Hickenlooper for price transparency, right, but

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Speaker 11: at its core, this is really a plan that is

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Speaker 11: about empowering the consumer. This is about making sure that

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Speaker 11: we have the prices, that we have the information, that

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Speaker 11: we have the sunshine that we need to be able

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Speaker 11: to make wise decisions about our healthcare.

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Speaker 1: And it should be us making those decisions without the question,

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Speaker 1: Doctor Moniciohn, And thank you for all that you're doing,

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Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us, and we will talk

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Speaker 1: to you again soon.

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Speaker 4: Thanks so much.

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Speaker 1: Kevin, you got it, Kevin McCullough coming back from Times Square.

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Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere.

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Speaker 7: Let's stick around for more of that Kevin next, serving

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Speaker 7: it up with a new drink, Mintal.

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Speaker 4: It's that Kevin Show.

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Speaker 1: All right, Kevin mcclla, thank you, Thank you to everybody

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Speaker 1: who's been part of the show today. And if you

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Speaker 1: want to revisit any of this, go to Salem Podcast

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Speaker 1: Network and sign up for that Kevin Show. Podcast because

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01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:03,920
Speaker 1: we love to make it available. You can also see

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Speaker 1: it online at that kevinshow dot com. But if you

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Speaker 1: go to that kevinshow dot com, it's under the podcast section.

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Speaker 1: If you go to that kevinshow dot com, please click

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Speaker 1: over to the preborn page. There there's a banner at

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Speaker 1: the top of the page that says preborn, and it's

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Speaker 1: got the face of a little baby, and that little

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Speaker 1: guy takes you to a page where you could you

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Speaker 1: could literally save and change lives. There are twelve hundred

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Speaker 1: unborn children that we are trying to save this January,

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Speaker 1: and a little bit from a lot of people will

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Speaker 1: save a ton of babies. For instance, two hundred and

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Speaker 1: eighty dollars would supply ultrasounds for ten moms and save

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Speaker 1: ten babies lives. The ultrasounds are twenty eight dollars. They

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Speaker 1: are less than a dollar a day. If you wanted

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Speaker 1: to do an ultrasound a month, where you went for

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Speaker 1: twelve months and every month you just you gave another ultrasound,

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Speaker 1: you would say twelve babies over the course of this

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Speaker 1: next year. And boy, what a great way to kick

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Speaker 1: off the year by saying I'm going to be committed

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Speaker 1: to showing that I believe in life, that I choose life,

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Speaker 1: that life is important, that life is something that God cherishes,

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Speaker 1: that it's something that I should cherish as a result,

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Speaker 1: and I would really strongly encourage you to do that.

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Speaker 8: Go to.

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Speaker 1: That kevinshow dot com, click on the preborn banner at

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Speaker 1: the top of the page, or click or call eight

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Speaker 1: three three eight five zero b A B y eight

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Speaker 1: three three eight five zero b A B Y. To

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Speaker 1: be able to do that and to make that gift

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Speaker 1: over the phone. It shouldn't take you more than about

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Speaker 1: forty seconds, whether you go online or make the call.

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Speaker 1: And then once you've given your gift, those ultrasounds are

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Speaker 1: immediately bank. That means that that preborn now has them

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Speaker 1: to be able to be used to help young women

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Speaker 1: that are in Christi's pregnancy eight three three eight five

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Speaker 1: zero ba B Y. And I just you know, I

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Speaker 1: try to put myself into shoes of those of you

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Speaker 1: that are listening, because some of you are just getting

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Speaker 1: me for the first time. As we have just expanded

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Speaker 1: by thirty two stations across the country, we're now five

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Speaker 1: hundred and five different media markets and cities and places

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Speaker 1: and I just want to say thank you to everybody

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Speaker 1: that has put us on in their area. But the

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Speaker 1: reason that I bring this to your attention is that

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Speaker 1: I really, I really strongly believe that if we want

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Speaker 1: to see a year of good things happening for our

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Speaker 1: country for this two hundred and fiftieth Observation of America,

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Speaker 1: we need to be concerned about being the morally good

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Speaker 1: country that God can extend his grace to. We're not

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Speaker 1: going to be perfect, and we've never been, but there's

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Speaker 1: a piece of God's heart that is warmed when he

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Speaker 1: knows that people are seeking to do what is morally right,

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Speaker 1: what is good. And at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: this helping a woman who is experiencing a crisis pregnancy

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Speaker 1: and she is freaked out. She doesn't know what her

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Speaker 1: life is going to become. She's really scared. Usually she

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Speaker 1: has people behind her that are pushing her to the abortion.

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Speaker 1: She seldom, if ever, wants to actually have an abortion,

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Speaker 1: but she's usually prodded to by someone in her circle.

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Speaker 1: And when she comes into a preborn center, there's no

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Speaker 1: one prodding her. They give her information that she hasn't seen.

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Speaker 1: They let her see what's going on. Inside of her

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Speaker 1: own body, and oftentimes when she sees that picture, she goes,

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Speaker 1: wait a minute, that's not a clump of cells, that's

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Speaker 1: a baby. And there's multiple stories of the boyfriend or

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Speaker 1: the husband being there with her and them saying the

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Speaker 1: same thing when they see the image on the ultrasound,

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Speaker 1: and oftentimes it's the preborn director that goes, it's not

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Speaker 1: just a baby. That's your baby. That's the baby that

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Speaker 1: God made for you. Friends, let's give them that miracle

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Speaker 1: of life. Eight three three eight five zero b a

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Speaker 1: two nine eight three three eight five zero two two

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Speaker 1: two nine, or go to that kevinshow dot com and

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Speaker 1: click the preborn band at the top of the porch