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Speaker 1: for the American people.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Scott Jennings Show. Graham Platner calling it

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Speaker 2: quits in Maine and says the political establishment of the

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Speaker 2: Democratic Party is framing him for rape. We'll go over

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Speaker 2: this incredible story during the show today and check in

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Speaker 2: with our friends from the main wire in the process.

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Speaker 1: Bipartisan praise for.

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Speaker 2: Trump accounts yep, and from a twenty twenty eight Democratic contender,

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Speaker 2: no less, we have that audio for you, and the

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Speaker 2: Great Jim Jordan of Ohio gives an update from Capitol

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Speaker 2: Hill on what to expect when Congress returns to work

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Speaker 2: next week.

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Speaker 1: Today is Thursday, July the ninth.

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Speaker 2: We broadcast live from New York City and we'll see

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Speaker 2: it tonight on CNN at five point thirty and again

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Speaker 2: at ten o'clock Eastern. On this day, we remember one

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Speaker 2: of history's most famous rides. Year was ten forty in

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Speaker 2: the English city of Coventry. People there were groaning under

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Speaker 2: heavy taxes imposed by the powerful earl who ruled that town.

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Speaker 2: His wife had heard the cries of the people. She

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Speaker 2: could bear it no longer, and she intervened with her

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Speaker 1: For him to ease their burden.

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Speaker 2: She was quite persistent, and finally, perhaps believing that she

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Speaker 2: would never agree, the earl made an astonishing offer. He said,

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Speaker 1: Now that was meant to end this conversation.

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Speaker 2: Instead, to the surprise of the earl, the empathetic wife accepted,

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Speaker 2: and before dawn she sent word throughout the town. Stay indoors,

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Speaker 2: I will win your relief. The people, so moved by

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Speaker 2: her intervention, honored her request. The streets fell silent as

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Speaker 2: she rode, her long hair flowing around her. Doors, curtains,

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Speaker 2: windows all stayed shut that day, all except for one,

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Speaker 2: they say. One shutter was cracked open. One man simply

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Speaker 2: couldn't resist a look at the beautiful Lady Godiva. Legend

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Speaker 2: has it that he was instantly struck blind by this transgression.

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Speaker 1: You know, Tom was his name.

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Speaker 2: And today we remember the ride of Lady Godiva through

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Speaker 2: the streets of Coventry on this day in ten forty

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Speaker 2: when we recall that lusty villager by referring to someone

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Speaker 2: as a peeping tom now as we peer through the

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Speaker 2: cracks to look upon today's news. The push to bring

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Speaker 2: attention to one of the president's signature ideas has earned

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Speaker 2: a new fan, a Democrat in fact, Governor West Moore

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Speaker 2: of Maryland, and an interview this week, credited Trump for

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Speaker 2: doing something that lots of politicians talked about but could

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Speaker 1: Listen to Wes Moore and cut seven.

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Speaker 3: I will give this administration credit for this is that

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Speaker 3: we've had Democratic presents and Republican presidents who have not

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Speaker 3: So I actually this is actually a smart policy. I

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Speaker 2: Now, these Trump Accounts have already been a fabulous success.

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Speaker 2: Speaker Johnson reminds us today, and don't forget this, that

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Speaker 2: every Democrat in Congress, every single one of them, voted

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Speaker 2: against this idea last summer. Now, every one of you

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Speaker 2: with a child under eighteen is eligible to qualify for

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Speaker 1: Travel note.

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Speaker 2: I am sure that Democrat Graham Plattner has suspended his

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Speaker 2: campaign for the main Senate seat. He made that announcement

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Speaker 2: last night in an excruciatingly long video eleven minutes where

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Speaker 8: exact same conversation. We believe for the movement to continue,

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Speaker 2: Platner says he's suspending his campaign, but at least as

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Speaker 2: he says in the video. The allegations are false. He

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Speaker 2: the political establishment be more willing to fight them over

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Speaker 2: what he says are false allegations. Democrats today simply want

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Speaker 2: everyone to move on from this fiasco, to forget how

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Speaker 2: much they overlooked on Platner for so long, starting with

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Speaker 2: that Nazi tattoo. They also want you to look away

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Speaker 2: as the Party of Democracy throws the votes of tens

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Speaker 2: they held a vote, Platner won easily. Nazi tattoo, domestic violence,

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Speaker 2: bizarre violence statements and all, Platner won the race, and

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Speaker 2: yet today it is as though that vote never happened.

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Speaker 2: Party of Democracy, give me a break. Gas prices. Interesting

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Speaker 2: exchange on CNN last night for yours. Truly, I often

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Speaker 2: hear Democrats screeching about gas prices, so I asked one

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Speaker 1: Her name here is near a Tanden.

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Speaker 2: She worked for the Clintons for years and then was

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Speaker 1: Listen to this exchange and cut number.

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Speaker 9: more for gas because prices of gas and prices of

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Speaker 1: It's parts of gas today, you know.

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Speaker 9: It's the it's the barrel went up to seventy eight dollars, So.

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Speaker 1: It was a part of a gallon of gas. In

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Speaker 9: Right now it's four may.

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Speaker 1: The highest price of gas under No, that's ever conduct.

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Speaker 1: That's not the question.

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Speaker 7: The question is.

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Speaker 1: The question is how are what is it worth today

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Speaker 1: than it was for he No, no, it's not just

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Speaker 1: a reminder for me to you.

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Speaker 2: Do not let the Biden people lecture you one bit

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Speaker 2: about the price of anything, especially energy.

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Speaker 1: Let me give you the facts.

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Speaker 2: Gas prices are three dollars and eighty four cents nationally.

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Speaker 2: It was four dollars and sixteen cents a month ago.

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Speaker 2: Back home in Kentucky, it's three dollars and forty five cents.

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Speaker 2: And a friend texted this morning he saw it for

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Speaker 1: Cheap estates right now are Indiana and Texas.

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Speaker 2: A barrel of Brent crude is trading for seventy two

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Speaker 2: dollars right now. It was eighty dollars when Trump took over.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty major reduction. Just don't ask anyone who worked

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Speaker 2: for Joe Biden for that information. They don't know, but folks,

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Speaker 2: So I want to talk about the president's plane, Air

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Speaker 1: Scott Jennings broadcasting here from New York.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to talk for a moment about the President's

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Speaker 2: and stay with you when he's.

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Speaker 1: Going to follow up on.

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Speaker 2: the main Wire, John, Welcome back to the Scott Jennings Show.

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Speaker 2: A pretty dramatic turn of events, these allegations of rape

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Speaker 2: You've been covering Platner and following this story as closely

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Speaker 1: What do you make of all this? And let me

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Speaker 2: He said he is suspending his campaign, but as at

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Speaker 6: Well, it just exposes his hypocrisy because his whole campaign

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Speaker 1: I've heard this question from a lot of people.

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Speaker 2: Well, I if Graham Platner is credibly accused of what

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Speaker 1: What can you tell us about that?

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Speaker 2: Main Wire. So now Platner has said he's spending his campaign.

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Speaker 2: But to your point, I'm not sure it should matter

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Speaker 2: whether he is in or out of a campaign. If

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Speaker 2: he actually broke into a woman's house uninvited and raped

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Speaker 2: her against her will, then it should matter whether he's

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Speaker 2: on a ballot or not. It should only matter whether

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Speaker 2: he broke main law. What can you tell us about

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Speaker 2: your plans at the main wire to follow up with

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Speaker 2: the Attorney General's office about this, because to me, if

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Speaker 2: they were willing to threaten charges in the first place,

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Speaker 2: then that means they had already decided this had reached

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Speaker 2: the threshold at least of you.

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Speaker 1: Know, we need to look into this, right.

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Speaker 6: Well, last night I submitted a Freedom of Information Act

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Speaker 6: to the Attorney General's office asking for all their phone records.

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Speaker 6: So we're waiting to get that information back. And you know,

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Speaker 6: you can make it really easy for the Attorney General's office.

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Speaker 6: You know, you don't have to dig up all this information,

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Speaker 6: just you know, confirm that you know a G. Fryer

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Speaker 6: or representative of his from his office reached out to

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Speaker 6: Platiner or one of Plattner's campaign people, and you know,

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Speaker 6: we can you know, make this go away real real quick.

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Speaker 6: But you know, like I said, we've forgot this from

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Speaker 6: multiple sources, so you know, and we've reported it, so

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Speaker 6: you know, we are it's a breaking news story and

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Speaker 6: we're we're working on it.

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Speaker 2: So right now, the Attorney General of Maine, Frye, has

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Speaker 2: not confirmed or denied the existence of this call that

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Speaker 2: you have from multiple sources.

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Speaker 1: Is that right? That is correct?

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Speaker 5: That is correct?

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, we're talking to John Featherston from the

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Speaker 2: main Wire.

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Speaker 1: John, I gat it, go ahead, sir.

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Speaker 6: I was just I was gonna say. Keep in mind

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Speaker 6: that A. G. Fry was appointed by the current governor,

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Speaker 6: Governor Janet Mills, who originally ran against platin Er for

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Speaker 6: the Sea. So, uh, the Democrat Party here in Maine

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Speaker 6: is in total chaos. They don't know what to do.

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Speaker 6: They want they're going to hold a convention. They don't

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Speaker 6: know how people are going to be vetted as candidates.

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Speaker 6: They really really don't know what they want to do.

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Speaker 6: The only thing very obvious is is the Democrats wanted

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Speaker 6: Platner off the ballot. That was the only thing that

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Speaker 6: barrier evident. And you know it begs the question that

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Speaker 6: you know, Mills, you know, tell Frey to pick up

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Speaker 6: the phone and call Platner, and that's what we're that's

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Speaker 6: what we're investigating right now. Well, we're going to follow

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Speaker 6: your reporting very closely on this, because if if the

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Speaker 6: Attorney General made that call and you're able to track

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Speaker 6: that down and they don't follow up on the possible

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Speaker 6: criminality of this, to me, that would be a scandal

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Speaker 6: in and of itself. We're talking to John Featherston from

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Speaker 6: the Main Wire, who's tracking this whole unfolding Grand Platiner

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Speaker 6: Maine Senate race chaos. The Democrats, as you noted, are

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Speaker 6: trying to figure out what to do next. A number

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Speaker 6: of possible replacements.

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Speaker 2: For Platner have emerged, including this guy, Troy Jackson, who

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Speaker 2: seems to be pushed by the Platner wing of the

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Speaker 2: party as kind of the the next man up here

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Speaker 2: from this, you know, supposed working class progressive wing of

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Speaker 2: the Democratic Party.

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Speaker 1: I want to listen to this cut of Troy Jackson.

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Speaker 2: He was on MS now answering a question about his

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Speaker 2: previous support for Platner.

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Speaker 1: Let's hear that, and cut number.

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Speaker 11: One, let me ask you, because you campaigned with Graham

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Speaker 11: Plattner during your bid for governor, even as all of

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Speaker 11: these other controversy surface old reddit post downplaying sexual assault

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Speaker 11: in the military since covered up tattoo resembling a Nazi

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Speaker 11: symbol he denied knowing what it meant, as well as

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Speaker 11: allegations from past girlfriends about physically aggressive behavior. He denied those.

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Speaker 11: But why were none of those controversies a breaking point

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Speaker 11: for you?

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Speaker 1: I think the old reddit post.

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Speaker 2: I think even the tattoo, you know, there was plausible

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Speaker 2: things that you know, people can change and things like that. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that's Troy Jackson who's going to face these questions if

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Speaker 2: he becomes the next man up here for the Democrats,

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Speaker 2: He's going to face these questions for the rest of

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Speaker 2: the fall. Is that going to fly that kind of

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Speaker 2: an answer? Is that going to fly in a main

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Speaker 2: center race?

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Speaker 6: No, I don't think it will. You know a little

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Speaker 6: background on Troy. He is the former state Senate president.

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Speaker 6: He's been in you know, Augusta politics for generations.

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Speaker 10: Now.

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Speaker 6: He ran for governor in this last election cycle, and

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Speaker 6: he came in last running against the establishment. There is

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Speaker 6: no more establishment guy in Maine than Troy Jackson. He

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Speaker 6: will tell you that he's a fifth generation Lagger. He

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Speaker 6: hasn't been in the logging business in a real long

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Speaker 6: long time. Uh. You know, he was happy to campaign

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Speaker 6: with Plattner and Bernie Sanders and you know, ride that

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Speaker 6: wave of momentum. But you know there's a lot of

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Speaker 6: you know, you know, when he was the Senate president,

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Speaker 6: he was overbilling you know, the state for his expenses.

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Speaker 6: He was caught doing that. He's had some you know,

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Speaker 6: egregious missteps here in Maine. Please have him be the

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Speaker 6: nominee because it would be great theater here in Maine.

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Speaker 6: Because he's he's not as you know to know him.

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Speaker 6: He's a nice man. He's a nice man, but he's

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Speaker 6: not a good quality candidate. He's not going to become

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Speaker 6: the next Senator for Maine, that's for sure.

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Speaker 2: We got about ten seconds here, John, I'll just ask

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Speaker 2: you of the names that are in the pool. Troy Jackson,

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Speaker 2: this near of Shaw, who's sort of the main version

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Speaker 2: of doctor Fauci, Sena Bellows, Dan Cleven, Jordan Wood.

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Speaker 1: David Costello.

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Speaker 2: A lot of these names are not household names, of course,

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Speaker 2: but you'll know who they are in your opinion. Which

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Speaker 2: is most likely to emerge from some undemocratic process here

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Speaker 2: to replace Platnir.

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Speaker 6: I would tell you that Troy Jackson is the front runner,

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Speaker 6: followed very closely by doctor Shaw because doctor Shaw actually

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Speaker 6: got the most votes for the gubernatorial race for the

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Speaker 6: Democrat side, but because of rank Choi's voting, he didn't win.

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Speaker 6: So he does have name appeal here in the state

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Speaker 6: of Maine.

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Speaker 2: John Featherston from the Main Wire, The breaking news is

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Speaker 2: that they've got sources and they're reporting and following up

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Speaker 2: on this reporting that there may have been some interaction

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Speaker 2: between the Attorney General of Maine and Graham Platner about

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Speaker 2: the possibility of charges being filed against Preidner for this

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Speaker 2: rape allegation. John will look for you to update us

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Speaker 2: on that as soon as you can.

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Speaker 2: Little breaking news Here on Thursday, July the ninth, we

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Speaker 2: are keeping an eye on the courtroom out in Utah

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Speaker 2: where this preliminary hearing has been going on all week

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Speaker 2: to determine whether Tyler Robinson is going to face a

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Speaker 2: full murder trial, as he has been accused of being

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Speaker 2: the person who assassinated our friend Charlie Kirk. Now, some

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Speaker 2: of the most riveting evidence is in the courtroom right

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Speaker 2: now being played for people in the courtroom, and it

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Speaker 2: is video of Tyler Robinson's lover, Lance Twigs, and the courtroom.

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Speaker 2: This is unfolding, by the way as we speak, so

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Speaker 2: we have a little bit of the audio of that.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna play that for you. This this is it's

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Speaker 2: not the greatest quality. We're just pulling this now, but

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Speaker 2: I want you to hear it. And then a couple

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Speaker 2: of notes that have come out of this as it unfolds.

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Speaker 2: So let's hear a little bit of Twigs and then we'll

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Speaker 2: come back.

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Speaker 12: Last is fine, Okay. My name is Lance Twigs. And

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Speaker 12: do you know Tyler Robinson?

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Speaker 10: Yes?

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Speaker 13: I do, well, Yeah, to do.

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Speaker 1: And it's the same.

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Speaker 12: Tyler Robinson that's been charged with the shooting.

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Speaker 6: Of Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 5: Yes.

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Speaker 12: And would you say when you first met Tyler?

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Speaker 13: I think it was twenty twenty three. I've known it

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Speaker 13: longer than that though. That was I think the first

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Speaker 13: time I met him in person.

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Speaker 12: Okay, And we just your relationship with with Tyler or.

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Speaker 13: When I first met him, I didn't know super well.

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Speaker 13: He was just a new roommate, so I knew he

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Speaker 13: knew my friend group, and I knew he liked playing games.

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Speaker 13: But that's that's about it. When we first like when

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Speaker 13: he first moved them.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, what you're seeing and hearing there is

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Speaker 2: video and audio of Lance Twigs. He was the lover

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Speaker 2: of Tyler Robinson, the accused here. So this testimony is

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Speaker 2: unfolding in the courtroom. I'm gonna tell you a few

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Speaker 2: things that have also come out of this testimony. Number one,

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Speaker 2: Lance Twigs admitted under oath that Tyler Robinson was engraving

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Speaker 2: bullets not long before the assassination. Now you might remember

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Speaker 2: that the casings on the day of Charlie's murderers said

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Speaker 2: quote hey fascist catch and contained other messages. So apparently

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Speaker 2: in this testimony, Lance Twiggs has admitted that Tyler Robinson

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Speaker 2: was in graving bullets on top of that. And I'm

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Speaker 2: by the way, I want to give a shout out

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Speaker 2: here to a Nick Sorter who is on x at

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Speaker 2: Nick Sorder. I follow along his updates throughout the day,

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Speaker 2: and he's providing a few here. He says that Lance

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Speaker 2: Twiggs has confirmed under oath that he found a note

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Speaker 2: on Tyler Robinson's desk on September tenth, admitting that he

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Speaker 2: left to go.

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Speaker 1: Quote take out Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 2: It says the note said, if you're reading this per

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Speaker 2: my text, then I am so sorry. I left the

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Speaker 2: house this morning on a mission. I am likely dead

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Speaker 2: or facing a lengthy prison sentence. I had the opportunity

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Speaker 2: to take out Charlie Kirk, and I took it. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if I will have succeeded, but I had

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Speaker 2: hoped to make it home to you. I wish we

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Speaker 2: could have lived in a world where this did not

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Speaker 2: feel necessary. I wish I could have stayed for you

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Speaker 2: and lived our lives together. That is sworn testimony about

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Speaker 2: the note that Tyler Robinson had left for Lance Twigs.

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Speaker 2: They are also admitting in court major text messages.

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Speaker 1: This is being admitted to the court room right now.

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Speaker 2: Lance Twigs replying to a text message from Tyler Robinson

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Speaker 2: saying you weren't the one who did it, right, and

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Speaker 2: Tyler says, this is Tyler Robinson. I am I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: and then Twiggs says I thought they caught the person,

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Speaker 2: and then Tyler Robinson says, no, they grabbed some crazy

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Speaker 2: old dude and interrogated someone. So what you are seeing

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Speaker 2: unfolding in the courtroom in Utah is evidence, riveting, clear,

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Speaker 2: direct evidence that Tyler Robinson murdered Charlie Kirk. Now, I

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Speaker 2: recognize that many of you may have seen lots of

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Speaker 2: conspiracy theories out there about this case, and I'm sorry

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Speaker 2: about that because it seems to me that what is

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Speaker 2: true is what's being played out in the courtroom right now,

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Speaker 2: that Tyler Robinson, at least according to the evidence that

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Speaker 2: we're seeing.

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Speaker 1: Is the murderer of Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 2: So we'll keep you updated on the case and as

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Speaker 2: we all sadly relive Charlie's assassination, more to come after this.

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Speaker 2: Scott Jennings here on Salem, Thursday, July of the ninth,

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Speaker 2: Thanks for being with us here on common Sense for

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Speaker 2: the American people.

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Speaker 1: Quick check of the headlines.

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Speaker 2: We're watching the un folding testimony in the Charlie Kirk

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Speaker 2: murder hearing going on out in Utah. Absolutely riveting evidence

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Speaker 2: coming out of this conversation that's being aired in the

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Speaker 2: courtroom right now with Lance Twiggs, who was Tyler Robinson's lover.

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Speaker 2: All of this evidence, what he is talking about in

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Speaker 2: this under oath testimony is extremely damning. Makes pretty clear

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Speaker 2: that Robinson confessed to Lance Twigs that he in fact

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Speaker 2: did murder Charlie Kirk will keep an eye on all

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Speaker 2: of this for you. The United States and Iran exchanging

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Speaker 2: fire for a second consecutive day.

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Speaker 1: The hostilities continue.

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Speaker 2: The peace process, the ceasefire that all seems to be

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Speaker 2: obliterated at the moment. Both countries are intensifying their attacks.

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Speaker 2: US military says overnight had struck more than one hundred

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Speaker 2: and seventy targets in Iran over the previous forty eight hours. Jordan,

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Speaker 2: which hosts some US military but had not been a

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Speaker 2: tar target for Iran, said it had intercepted Iranian missiles

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Speaker 2: in its airspace. Iran also says it's firing at targets

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Speaker 2: in Cutter, Kuwait and Bahrain. So fighting between the United

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Speaker 2: States and Iran is getting more intense by the hour,

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Speaker 2: and finally Spain decides to pay up following President Trump's pressure.

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Speaker 1: The Spanish government.

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Speaker 2: Caving after the President threatened to halt all trade between

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Speaker 2: the two nations, and President Trump says they have decided

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Speaker 2: to make more contributions to NATO after all here to

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Speaker 2: talk about what's going on at NATO, what's going on

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Speaker 2: in Iran and Ukraine, and all things national security. Our friend,

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Speaker 2: the VP of National Security at the Heritage Foundation and

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Speaker 2: former Trump Deputy National Security Advisor, Victoria Coach, Victoria, thanks

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Speaker 2: for your time today. Let's start with the breaking news

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Speaker 2: on this uptick in intensity between of the fighting between

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Speaker 2: the US and Iran. How long do you think we

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Speaker 2: should expect this back and forth to go on?

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Speaker 5: Well, Scott, great to be with you. I hope you

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Speaker 5: had a wonderful Independence Day and all the Salem family did.

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Speaker 5: But I think what we're going to see is, you know,

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Speaker 5: this is this is the choice of the Iranians. You know,

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Speaker 5: the president was very frank that he wanted a diplomatic

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Speaker 5: solution and they just simply weren't agreeing to the things

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Speaker 5: that he had the right to demand, given that we

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Speaker 5: had won the military conflict by any conceivable metrics, and

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Speaker 5: so he has resumed. And what's interesting to me is

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Speaker 5: we have certainly escalated. And you saw you know, seventy strikes,

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Speaker 5: eighty strikes, now over one hundred strikes. The things they're

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Speaker 5: hitting are different. They're hitting the train line that goes

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Speaker 5: out and actually connects Ran with Russia and China. They're

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Speaker 5: hitting the command post in the port of Kandahar. It's

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Speaker 5: going to make that harder and harder for the Iranians

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Speaker 5: to move. And what are they doing. They're shooting pot shops,

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Speaker 5: you know, at Kuwait and Bahrain, which is a nuisance,

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Speaker 5: but they are being intercepted. And now they're shelling the

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Speaker 5: Jordanians and it's it's having little or no effect. What

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Speaker 5: they're also not doing is they're not targeting Israel right now.

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Speaker 5: They are running really low on munitions. This is really

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Speaker 5: really different from the first week in March.

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Speaker 2: So what I'm hearing you say is that in fact,

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Speaker 2: the US did achieve something militarily here. They've dramatically degraded

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Speaker 2: the Iranian capacity to threaten their neighbors.

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Speaker 1: Is that right?

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Speaker 5: Indeed? And that was one of the President's goals, is

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Speaker 5: that they would not be able to project power outside

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Speaker 5: their borders the way they've been accustomed to doing. And

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Speaker 5: I think we've certainly seen that with Hesba law. The

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Speaker 5: Huti have been remarkably muted throughout this whole process. And

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Speaker 5: then you know, Hamas is totally consumed with trying to

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Speaker 5: survive in Gaza, not with trying to actually carry out

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Speaker 5: attacks or target Americans. So I certainly don't like what

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Speaker 5: they're doing. I think we should stop them, and I

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Speaker 5: think we can do that. But they are a shadow

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Speaker 5: of what they were the second week.

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Speaker 2: And so now I am looking at the latest data

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Speaker 2: here on oil, and I guess the assumption was that

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Speaker 2: if fighting resumed, we might see a spike in oil prices.

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Speaker 2: Today oil crude oil is down almost three percent, about

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Speaker 2: two bucks. It's trading at seventy one dollars forty eight

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Speaker 2: cents a barrel. I wouldn't know what it was eighty

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Speaker 2: dollars a barrel when Donald Trump took over. Are you

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Speaker 2: surprised that we haven't seen a spike in the oil

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Speaker 2: markets today? What does that tell us about the flow

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Speaker 2: of oil that's still able to get through the straight there,

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Speaker 2: even though we have some exchange of fire.

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Speaker 5: I think what we're seeing is literally the last couple

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Speaker 5: of weeks of a reasonably free flow of oil out

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Speaker 5: of the Gulf has almost created a glut. And the

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Speaker 5: Energy Information Agency, the EIA, out of the Department of

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Speaker 5: Energy just published an incredible graph today of the increase

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Speaker 5: in US oil sales. In twenty twenty five, we went

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Speaker 5: up to I think three point six million barrels a day.

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Speaker 5: Ten years ago that was nine and change, and we

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Speaker 5: are now by a significant margin, the world's largest oil producer,

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Speaker 5: way ahead. Both Saudi and Russia are around nine and

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Speaker 5: change where we were ten years ago, and now we're

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Speaker 5: well over thirteen. So I think we are pumping like crazy.

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Speaker 5: That means we can export more that we are importing

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Speaker 5: even less, although as you know, it's a global market.

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Speaker 5: But that is just such a huge change. And if

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Speaker 5: we keep that up and Secretary Bergen and Secretary Right

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Speaker 5: and President Trump keep doing the good deregulatory work that

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Speaker 5: they're doing to encourage domestic production, guys for the limit

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Speaker 5: for US in twenty twenty six. So I think a

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Speaker 5: combination of getting some of that product out of the

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Speaker 5: Gulf and our increased production has really helped stabilize things.

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Speaker 2: A voice you're hearing Victoria Coats, the vice president of

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Speaker 2: National Security at the Heritage Foundation, one of the most

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Speaker 2: experienced national security voices and the conservative movement today. Victoria,

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Speaker 2: you watched the NATO's summit and we had a kerfluffle

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Speaker 2: between the President and Spain. Spain was being somewhat recalcitran

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Speaker 2: about I think paying their dues, and Presidents said I'm

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Speaker 2: cutting off all trade with Spain, and then he said

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Speaker 2: they caved and they've decided to pay up.

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Speaker 1: What do you know about our situation with Spain right now?

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Speaker 5: Well, shockingly, yes, they decided they didn't want to lose

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Speaker 5: one of their major trading partners in The other issue

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Speaker 5: they face is we have a couple of naval bases

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Speaker 5: that's Spain hosts, and they get a lot of income

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Speaker 5: from that, and the President essentially said that he was

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Speaker 5: not going to use those anymore. We at Heritage helpfully

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Speaker 5: suggested some islands controlled by Morocco to the south of

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Speaker 5: Spain could be a more desirable, reliable partner, and amazingly

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Speaker 5: Spain fell into place. But I think we really should

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Speaker 5: keep an eye on Spain. It's obviously one of the

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Speaker 5: top half dozen European autonomies. They can be hugely helpful

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Speaker 5: to us, particularly in Latin America. Their current socialist leadership

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Speaker 5: is a disaster, So I think to say Ted Sanchez

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Speaker 5: is the Prime Minister's wife is under indictment for corruption,

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Speaker 5: as is I believe his brother, and they're circling at

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Speaker 5: his mentor the former prime minister's at Taro, and they're

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Speaker 5: circling ever closer to him. So I'm very hopeful that

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Speaker 5: the Spanish people are going to say this, we've had

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Speaker 5: enough of this craziness and they're puddling up to China

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Speaker 5: and doing all sorts of bad things. So I'm happy

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Speaker 5: they had a change of heart about NATO contributions, but

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Speaker 5: I'd like to see much bigger changes in Madrid.

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Speaker 2: Last issue for you, Victoria, we saw some interaction between

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Speaker 2: the President and Zelenski from Ukraine. We heard Marco Rubio

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Speaker 2: say at this summit that we now may have a

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Speaker 2: window where some negotiations could occur to end the conflict,

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Speaker 2: and the President said he was going to permit American

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Speaker 2: defense contractors to make Patriot missiles directly for Ukraine. What

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Speaker 2: do you make of the situation between you in Russia

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Speaker 2: and are we on the brink of perhaps and opening

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Speaker 2: here to get this thing solved?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, after ten years, it's hard for me to get

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Speaker 5: optimistic about Ukraine, although I would love to for their

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Speaker 5: sake stop talking about them. But in this case, I'm

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Speaker 5: old enough to remember in January or early February of

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty five when we had that all Velocice mass

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Speaker 5: meeting that the President reference and it was tough that

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Speaker 5: everyone was clutching their pearls and saying, oh my goodness,

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Speaker 5: Donald Trump, it's going to hand Ukraine to Vladimir Putin

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Speaker 5: on a silver plotter. Well, the opposite has happened in

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Speaker 5: the last eighteen months. That tough love had a bit effect,

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Speaker 5: and ju Zelenski has started manufacturing these long range attack drones.

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Speaker 5: And what the President announced was a willingness to give

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Speaker 5: them the license to start manufacturing the Pac three interceptors

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Speaker 5: for the Patriots, because we only make sixty a month

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Speaker 5: and they fire off seventy a month, so that mask

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Speaker 5: doesn't work. And if they can start scale manufacturing, we

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Speaker 5: get a cut of them, so it starts to replenish

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Speaker 5: our supplies that are so low now after four and

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Speaker 5: a half years before. So this is a win win

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Speaker 5: And Biden refused to do it, he thought it would

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Speaker 5: be too provocative to Putin. But this is a big

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Speaker 5: President Trump helping the Ukrainians to help themselves.

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Speaker 2: Victoria Codes, vice President of National Security over at Heritage,

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Speaker 2: former Deputy National Security advisor to President Trump.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for your time today. We'll have you back soon.

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Speaker 5: Sounds good, Thanks, Scott.

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Speaker 2: All right, see you later, Victoria. Let's talk a little

849
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Speaker 2: bit about pain. If you have it, you don't want it,

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Speaker 2: you don't want to live with it, and it makes

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Speaker 2: you I mean it, really it's quality of life. You

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Speaker 2: don't have the freedom that you deserve if you're living

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Speaker 2: in everyday pain. You don't have the freedom to walk,

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Speaker 2: to play with your grandkids, to do anything you want

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Speaker 2: to do. Pain takes away your freedom. But there is

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Speaker 1: More to come after this. It's Scott Jennings on Salem.

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Speaker 1: Stay with us.

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Speaker 10: You've heard the narratives, now get the truth. It's the

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Speaker 10: Scott Jennings.

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Speaker 1: Show, Thursday, July the ninth, Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 2: Here a little bit of breaking news edition of The

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Speaker 2: Scott Jennings Show. As we watch what's going on in

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Speaker 2: the courtroom in Utah. I've got an eye on it.

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Speaker 2: Also have an eye on a couple of X accounts

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Speaker 2: that are tracking along with the videotaped testimony that's being

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Speaker 2: played in the courtroom right now.

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Speaker 1: Of Lance Twigs. You may have heard this name.

879
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 2: If you've been following the case of the murderer of

880
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Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk, you may have heard this name, Lance Twiggs.

881
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 2: He is the lover of Tyler Robinson, the alleged murderer,

882
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 2: and they've been playing this now for the last several minutes.

883
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: According to our friend.

884
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 2: Nick Sorter, who's sort of providing some real time stenography

885
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 2: of what's going on here, he says that Twigs testifies

886
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 2: that he does believe the security camera photos appear to

887
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 2: show Tyler Robinson at Utah Valley University during Charlie Kirk's murder.

888
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 2: Here's the quote that looks like him in terms of

889
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 2: the shoes he's wearing the sunglasses. I don't think i'd

890
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,720
Speaker 2: specifically seen him wearing the hat, but he was usually

891
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 2: wearing a hat and then Gene, So yeah, it definitely,

892
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 2: especially the bottom the last two definitely do look like him.

893
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 2: So you've got Lance Twiggs identifying Tyler Robinson in that

894
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 2: security camera footage that you may have seen. Also, Lance

895
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 2: Twiggs in his videotape testimony, says that Robinson was acting

896
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:22,240
Speaker 2: quote erratically after allegedly killing Charlie Kirk. In this video,

897
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 2: Twiggs said that Robinson told him that he quote wishes

898
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Speaker 2: he hadn't done it, and Twiggs said, I just asked

899
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 2: him in person if what he said was true the

900
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 2: night before, asking whether or not it was true that

901
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,720
Speaker 2: he when he admitted that he had killed Charlie Kirk,

902
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 2: and then Robinson replied it was and Twigg says Robinson

903
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 2: started crying a little bit and said he wished he

904
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Speaker 2: hadn't done it, and then Twigg says, eventually Robinson said

905
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 2: that he would talk to his parents or turn himself over.

906
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 2: So what you are seeing play out in Utah today

907
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 2: and other days this week is pretty damning evidence that

908
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 2: there is no great grand conspiracy here that In fact,

909
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 2: Tyler Robinson, the man who has been arrested for the

910
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Speaker 2: murder of Charlie Kirk, did go to the campus and

911
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 2: shoot Charlie Kirk in the neck. We're going to keep

912
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Speaker 2: tracking all this evidence. By the way, I just had

913
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 2: to tell you all this is incredibly hard to relive

914
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 2: for a lot of people. We talked to Andrew Colvett yesterday.

915
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Speaker 2: Charlie's a good friend, and there have been other friends

916
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Speaker 2: of Charlie in the courtroom. I myself have been remembering

917
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Speaker 2: after watching all of this evidence and testimony, the day

918
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Speaker 2: that this happened last September, I was on the air

919
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 2: with all of you when we found out Charlie had

920
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Speaker 2: been shot, and then the show ended. We didn't know

921
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Speaker 2: what Charlie's fate was that day. During that hour I

922
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Speaker 2: was on the air with you here on Salem, and

923
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Speaker 2: then I had to get in a car and go

924
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Speaker 2: over to CNN. And by the time I got there,

925
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Speaker 2: just a few minutes after that and we got on

926
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Speaker 2: the air over at CNN, we had to report.

927
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Speaker 1: That Charlie had passed away.

928
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Speaker 2: And so I've been remembering all those emotions that day

929
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Speaker 2: and what we were all feeling together as a conservative community.

930
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Speaker 2: As we learned about what had happened to our friend,

931
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Speaker 2: it's been rather dismaying, to say the least, to see

932
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 2: so many bad actors in the world out there, who,

933
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 2: for their own personal self aggrandizement, for their own personal enrichment,

934
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 2: for their own personal need to grind axes, have created

935
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 2: such chaos and conspiracy around this case. A lot of

936
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 2: people out there, a lot of people out there using

937
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 2: this case to make themselves more prominent, to impugne the

938
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 2: character of others, to go after Erica Kirk, which has

939
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 2: been one of the most despicable things about all this.

940
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 2: Erica lost her husband, their children lost their father, and

941
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 2: you have.

942
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Speaker 1: People out there.

943
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 2: Attacking Erica and impugning her character and claiming she had

944
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Speaker 2: something to do with it, and on and on and on.

945
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 1: Just absolute garbage, garbage.

946
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Speaker 2: So what I want to do here with this case

947
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 2: this week and as the trial unfold, is bring you

948
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Speaker 2: the facts.

949
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: And the facts today as we.

950
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Speaker 2: Know it is that there's damning evidence in the courtroom

951
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 2: that Tyler Robinson murdered Charlie Kirk, and we've I think

952
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 2: passed the threshold of probable cause, which is what they're

953
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 2: looking for as they seek to go on to a

954
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Speaker 2: full murder trial.

955
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Speaker 1: More to come after this. It's Scott Jennings on Salem.

956
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Speaker 1: Stay with us, the very definition I've never backed down here.

957
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Speaker 2: Scott Jennings, Thursday of July of the ninth, Thanks for listening.

958
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Speaker 2: Coming up in sixty seconds, the Great Jim Jordan, Chairman

959
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 2: of the House Judiciary Committee, will join us. First, I

960
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 2: want to give you a quick message from our friends

961
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 2: at the Market Institute. They're on top of an issue

962
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 2: that you need to think about. The reality is is

963
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,760
Speaker 2: that bureaucrats do not want to talk about the fact

964
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 2: that Alzheimer's is becoming an economic time bomb and that

965
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 2: our country is simply not ready. Cases are on track

966
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 2: to nearly double to fourteen million by the year twenty sixty.

967
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 2: That will put pressure on families, the workforce, and an

968
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 2: already strained Medicare and Medicaid program. Here's the part that

969
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 2: should get your attention. It's American families that shoulder most

970
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 2: of the burden. Individual families cover about seventy percent of

971
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 2: the lifetime care costs for an Alzheimer's patient. That costs

972
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 2: can be four hundred thousand dollars. Now, our competitors in

973
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 2: the world. They know this, They're not standing still. China

974
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 2: has launched a national priority to aggressively expand early diagnosis

975
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Speaker 2: and treatment.

976
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: They know it's a threat.

977
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 2: But here in the United States, it seems we're still

978
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:24,479
Speaker 2: waiting until it's too late.

979
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 1: But it is time to turn it all around. We

980
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: now have.

981
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 2: Tools like blood tests that can spot early signs of

982
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 2: Alzheimer's that can keep people healthier longer and then the workforce.

983
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 2: And by the way, as a political matter, eighty percent

984
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 2: of voters say they are more likely to support a

985
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:44,240
Speaker 2: candidate who prioritizes better access to Alzheimer's detection, diagnosis, and treatment.

986
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 2: That would be good for families and the economy. And

987
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,439
Speaker 2: you know what sounds common sense to me? Join the fight.

988
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 2: Learn more at Marketinstitute dot org. That is market Institute

989
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,720
Speaker 2: dot org common sense for the American people. Scott Jettings

990
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 2: here broadcasting for Salem. And there's no more common sense

991
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,399
Speaker 2: person in the United States Congress than our next guest,

992
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 2: Jim Jordan, Congressman from Ohio, is here, Chairman of House Judiciary,

993
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 2: traveling in Ohio today. Congressman Jordan, thanks for being with us.

994
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 2: I know the House is on recess right now. But

995
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 2: you're going back to work next week. What's on the

996
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 2: docket for you when you return to Washington.

997
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 7: Well, we're still we're still trying to get this and

998
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 7: we had talked about this before Scott, but this Thanks

999
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 7: Very Jurisdiction Act ANTI you know, it stops to thanks

1000
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,439
Speaker 7: for very jurisictions around the country. So we're still trying

1001
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 7: to get that through the House. It's been through our committees.

1002
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 7: That's one of the things our committee has really focused on.

1003
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 7: You know, we had a big hearing a week ago

1004
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,240
Speaker 7: where we had Jessica Gorman, mom of Sheridan Gorman, testify

1005
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 7: some of the most riveting, powerful emotional testimony I've ever heard,

1006
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 7: and I've been in Congress a while talking about you know,

1007
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 7: here was a guy who had committed crimes here, illegally,

1008
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 7: committed other crimes and killed Miss Gorman, killed Sheridan Gorman,

1009
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 7: Jessica's daughter, and she told it as only a mom could.

1010
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 7: So we're still working on that issue. We think that's

1011
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 7: again to your point about common sense, and it's ridiculous

1012
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 7: that in eighteen major city, eleventh state, the District of Columbia,

1013
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 7: and then three big counties as well, like Fairfax County

1014
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 7: with a million eight one point eight million in population,

1015
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 7: that they are all sanctuary jurisdictions where the political class

1016
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 7: tells local law enforcement don't work with federal law enforcement

1017
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 7: when it comes to enforcing federal law. So just dump

1018
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 7: just stupid, And so we're trying to spend that bill

1019
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:32,760
Speaker 7: across the finish line.

1020
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question about this testimony. This

1021
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 2: happened on June thirtieth. Is Jessica Gorman testimony.

1022
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 1: It was I watched it.

1023
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 2: It was absolutely heartbreaking, and you know, she needs a

1024
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,399
Speaker 2: platform to tell her story and so we can hear

1025
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:47,919
Speaker 2: her voice.

1026
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:48,760
Speaker 1: I mean, her daughter.

1027
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,399
Speaker 2: This all happened in Chicago, by the way, her daughter

1028
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 2: was killed by this Venezuelan illegal. When you bring people

1029
00:56:56,200 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 2: like Jessica Gorman in, people who've suffered absolute tragedy because

1030
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 2: of this illegal immigration crisis, do you ever get the

1031
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 2: sense that any of the Democrats you serve with have

1032
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 2: a heart about this at all, because they routinely tell us,

1033
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 2: you know, that Republicans are making this up. There is

1034
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 2: no you know, immigrants are less violent than American citizens

1035
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 2: and this never happens, and that never happened, and then

1036
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 2: you have a real life case and this mother who

1037
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 2: is in agony, do they break at all?

1038
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: Do they show any emotion at all when you put

1039
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: them right.

1040
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 2: In front of these Democrats and say you're wrong, this

1041
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 2: happened to a real life American family.

1042
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's interesting that there were they did there remembers

1043
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 7: who said, you know, we understand what a terrible loss

1044
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 7: you've suffered. And they acknowledge that. But then they also said,

1045
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 7: and I responded to this one of them that democrats said,

1046
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 7: I can't believe this is the fourth hearing we're having

1047
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 7: on this subject. And I responded shortly after and said,

1048
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 7: I don't care if we have five, six, seven, I

1049
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 7: don't care how many hearings it take. If we'll, I'll

1050
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 7: do whatever to get get rid of this stupid sanctuary

1051
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 7: jurisdiction policy out there where I mean, I understand Scott.

1052
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 7: They first they let in ten million, then to create

1053
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 7: sanctuary jurisdictions. It makes it difficult to remove any of

1054
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 7: those illegal migrants when they commit another crime. Then they

1055
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 7: say we're not going to fund the guys that do

1056
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 7: the removing. We're not going to fund ice. And then

1057
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 7: they have a four step to their crazy plan, which

1058
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 7: is oh, some of these prosecutors, like des Gano, who

1059
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 7: represents Fairfax County as the prosecutor there, he even takes

1060
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 7: into account the deportation status, immigration status of people who

1061
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 7: commit crimes and lessens their sentence or lessens their penal

1062
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 7: or gives them a better plea deal than he does

1063
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 7: an American citizen who may have committed the same crime.

1064
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 7: That is just stupid. So that's the policy, and I

1065
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 7: will do. If it takes us a million hearings to

1066
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 7: get this thing done, we should do all of them,

1067
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 7: because it's just that ridiculous to policy that the left

1068
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 7: now have.

1069
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Speaker 2: And as a consequence of politics, if the Democrats were

1070
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 2: to tragically take the House this November, there will be

1071
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 2: no more hearings, there will be no more aten tension

1072
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 2: to any of these crime victims.

1073
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Speaker 1: All that will go away.

1074
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 2: So if you care about this issue out there, remember

1075
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 2: that in November, because if you put Democrats back in

1076
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 2: charge of the House, there won't be any focus on

1077
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,520
Speaker 2: the Gorman family. It'll be all impeachments of Donald Trump

1078
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 2: in every committee all the way down. Congressman Jordan, we

1079
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 2: have seen the Democrats over the last few days and

1080
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 2: last few weeks struggling with this rise of the Democratic

1081
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 2: Socialists of America in their party. They've gotten a number

1082
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 2: of incumbent Democrats have been thrown out, people I'm sure

1083
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 2: that you know and have worked with for many years,

1084
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 2: and they're being replaced by folks who, if you listen

1085
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 2: to their words, they'd like to destroy the American Empire

1086
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 2: from the inside out. What do you make of this

1087
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:49,920
Speaker 2: Democratic Party sort of folding up and the socialists taking

1088
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 2: over and running wild on the left.

1089
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Speaker 7: Now, it's scary, you're a student of history of the

1090
00:59:56,520 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 7: American politics, It's sad when the once great party of

1091
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 7: FDR and JFK is now anti Israel and socialists. I mean,

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Speaker 7: it's just that that's that's who they're electing in these

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Speaker 7: these Democrat primaries. And I pointed to this example, and

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Speaker 7: I know you have as well. Dan Goldman, the guy

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Speaker 7: Adam Shift brought in as the impeachment count for as

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Speaker 7: the lawyer to go after President Trump. When they did

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Speaker 7: that in secret, secret impeachment in the Intelligence Committee. I

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Speaker 7: spent months in that lunker in the basement of the Capitol,

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Speaker 7: going through depositions and hearings with with with Shiff and Goldman.

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Speaker 7: After that's over, mister Goldman goes back to New York.

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Speaker 7: He runs for Congress, he gets elected, he's running for

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Speaker 7: re election, and he gets beat by one of these

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Speaker 7: Democrat socialist candidates. And he doesn't just get beat, he

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Speaker 7: gets beat by thirty points. And so when David the

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Speaker 7: impeachment lawyer for Adam Shift is not good enough for

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Speaker 7: the Democrat Party and for the left, that tells you

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Speaker 7: how radical they've become. And what again, what has happened

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Speaker 7: to with once once great.

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Speaker 2: Political party When you hear the words of these radicals

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Speaker 2: that are going to be coming to Congress and you

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Speaker 2: see the dynamics. So with the people with whom you serve,

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Speaker 2: what do you think the future is for Hakim Jeffries,

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Speaker 2: the Democrat leader. I mean, he probably you know, it's

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Speaker 2: a few months ago, thought Hey, I'm gonna be Speaker

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Speaker 2: of the House.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not. I'm not sure.

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, i'm not sure they're gonna win

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Speaker 2: the House number two they do, I'm not sure. I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure he can survive this socialist takeover.

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Speaker 1: What do you think?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think the main reason you're not going to

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Speaker 7: be speakers I think I'm like you. I think we're

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Speaker 7: going to win. I think we got to get candidates.

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Speaker 7: I think redissrating helps us. I think we're going to win,

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Speaker 7: and we got good resources. But and Frankville, we got

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Speaker 7: a message. We can talk about how we're common sense

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Speaker 7: and they're crazy, and we can find down that whole

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Speaker 7: list of policies they have that are just ridiculous. But

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Speaker 7: if for a chance, they would, I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I don't tend to worry about that too much. I'm

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Speaker 7: mostly focusing on the fact that this is bad for

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Speaker 7: the country. When you have when you have socialists who

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Speaker 7: are anti Semitic and anti Israel getting elected in Democrat primaries,

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Speaker 7: it is just bad for our nation. And so let's

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Speaker 7: let's make sure we don't get any of that anti

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Speaker 7: Israel element coming into our party. One of the things

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Speaker 7: I'm focusing on in these these primaries around the country,

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Speaker 7: and let's uh, let's go win this Mentum election and

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Speaker 7: make sure that there's there's no Democrat speaker, whomever that

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Speaker 7: might have been if they would have won.

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Speaker 2: Congressman Jim Jordan is our guest. I know you're out

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Speaker 2: moving around Ohio. I assume This is true for you

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Speaker 2: as it is for me as I move around the country.

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Speaker 2: The first and last and middle topic I get at

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Speaker 2: every single public appearance I make has to do with

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Speaker 2: the Save America Act. I know you and I are

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Speaker 2: in alignment that it is past time for the Save

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Speaker 2: America Act to be made into law. And the House

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Speaker 2: has passed it numerous times. The fight really is over

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Speaker 2: in the Senate. And what's the what are you hearing

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Speaker 2: on that? What can you tell the audience, you know,

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Speaker 2: and and and and realistic chances that this gets passed

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Speaker 2: before the fall.

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Speaker 7: Blund Yeah, good question. I think there's a there's a

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Speaker 7: chance we can get parts of it in in the reconciliation,

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Speaker 7: and if we can get a third reconciliation, and you know,

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Speaker 7: there's there's all the complexities of that how that works.

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Speaker 7: But I also think it underscores this fact that if

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Speaker 7: if the Democrats would ever take back the Senate, I

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Speaker 7: think they're going to get rid of the philibuster. I

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Speaker 7: think they're going to get rid of the philibuster. I

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Speaker 7: think they're going to try to pack the court and

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Speaker 7: add four justices to city United States Supreme Court. I

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Speaker 7: think they're going to try to make Puerto Rico and

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Speaker 7: DC states so they get they get two more, you know,

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Speaker 7: four more total Democrat senators. So I think they're going

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Speaker 7: to do all that, and it seems to me that

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Speaker 7: maybe we should think about, Okay, if if they're going

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Speaker 7: to do that, maybe we should change the phillibuster right now,

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Speaker 7: it's it's a rule signing the Constitution, it's not in law.

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Speaker 7: And and and get this Save America Act pass. So

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Speaker 7: because again it is just common sense that you should

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Speaker 7: have to show an id that you're who you say

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Speaker 7: you are when you go to vote, and and and

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Speaker 7: just just get it done. So but again that's the

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Speaker 7: question for the Senate, and we'll see, we'll see what

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Speaker 7: they do.

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Speaker 2: Congressman Jim Jordan is our guest from the Great State

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Speaker 2: of Ohio. Io Congressman, last question for you. A couple

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Speaker 2: of races at Ohio. Have some people concerned. You've got

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Speaker 2: a US Senate race there, John Houstad's on the ballot,

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Speaker 2: and also a gubernatorial campaign. Some of the polling has

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Speaker 2: been rather close, and Democrats seem to think they've got

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Speaker 2: a little momentum over there. What's your assessment of those

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Speaker 2: two races?

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Speaker 7: We had the Bank's a great candidate. I think he's

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Speaker 7: going to win. A sharp guy I in Dorsey me earlier.

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Speaker 7: I think I think he's going to make a great governor.

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Speaker 7: And then Senator who said doing great work as well.

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Speaker 5: But they're not easy.

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Speaker 7: Remember until President Trump come along, Ohio was the bell

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Speaker 7: Weather state. We were the because we're kind of a

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Speaker 7: composite of the country. We got big city, small towns,

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Speaker 7: rural Appalaha, we got you know, Hispanic Americans, we got

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Speaker 7: Black Americans, we had all kinds of We're just a

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Speaker 7: mix of twelve million people in our state. Trump has

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Speaker 7: made a real Republican, but I think maybe it might

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Speaker 7: be kind of reverting back to more, you know, more

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Speaker 7: fifty to fifty. But I think we're going to win

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Speaker 7: because and now I think it might might require President

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Speaker 7: Trump and Vice President Advance coming to Ohio, jd coming

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Speaker 7: back to his home state and rallying Trump voters to

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Speaker 7: go vote for Vivay and for Senator Houstead. But I

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Speaker 7: think we'll be all right. I think we'll win this thing.

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Speaker 7: And I think there's a chance we pick up that

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Speaker 7: seat in northwest Ohio Marcy Captor with Derek Maron in

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Speaker 7: that district. We've got a chance to win that after redistricting.

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Speaker 7: Marcy's been in there, this Captain's been in there forty

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Speaker 7: some years. It'd be nice to see if we can

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Speaker 7: get a Republican of that seat.

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Speaker 2: Well, i'd like to hear the optimism out of Jim Jordan,

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Speaker 2: Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee. Thanks for taking some

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Speaker 2: time today. We'll look forward to getting you back after

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Speaker 2: you reconvene in Washington next week. We've got to take

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Speaker 2: a break when we come back. Our friends from Echelon

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Speaker 2: Insights are coming by. They've got this great American study

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Speaker 2: on political tribes.

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Speaker 1: It's fascinating data.

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Speaker 2: And Kristin Soultis Anderson, who you may know are my

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Speaker 2: colleague from CNN as well as going to come by

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Speaker 2: and talk to us about it right after this on

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Speaker 2: the Scott Jenning Show.

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Speaker 1: If I love just haven't had enough debt? There's more.

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Speaker 1: This is the Scott Jenning Show.

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Speaker 2: All right home stretch here on Thursday, July the ninth

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Speaker 2: fascinating new data project out from our friends at Echelon

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Speaker 2: Insights and one of the best pollsters and political analysts

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Speaker 2: in the country at Echelon joins us to discuss it.

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Speaker 1: Kristin Saltis Anderson. You see her on CNN.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes she writes for The New York Times as well,

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Speaker 2: and she is highly sought after for her wisdom.

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Speaker 1: Christin, thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 2: I am fascinated by this project where you have broken

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Speaker 2: down the American electorate into eight political tribes and you

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Speaker 2: can go on the Echelon Insights website and take the

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Speaker 2: quiz and it will tell you what political tribe that

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Speaker 2: you are in.

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Speaker 1: Tell us about this project ksa.

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Speaker 5: Very fascinating well, thank you, Scott.

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Speaker 4: So we believe that America is not as easily described

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Speaker 4: as just Republicans and Democrats. That is too simple, that

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Speaker 4: is oversimplification, and we know that within both of the

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Speaker 4: parties there are a lot of different flavors for people

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Speaker 4: who believe a lot of different things. So we do

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Speaker 4: this project every year to try to better understand where

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Speaker 4: Americans actually sit, what do they really think about issues.

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Speaker 4: You know, we can have labels like conservatives or liberal,

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Speaker 4: but do those always map on to what people actually

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Speaker 4: believe about issues. We love to dig in and see

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Speaker 4: what types of voters, based on what issues they believe

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Speaker 4: in and what positions they hold, are the most vote motivated.

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Speaker 4: What are they going to do in the election? And

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Speaker 4: that's what we've done today.

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Speaker 1: All right, I took the quiz.

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Speaker 2: So if you go, by the way, if you want

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Speaker 2: to do this, go to Echeloninsights dot com slash tribes

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Speaker 2: and you can read about the project here and you

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Speaker 2: can also take the quiz. I took the quiz. I've

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Speaker 2: been taking it during the show today. It says my

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Speaker 2: political tribe is the loyal right, staunch conservatives across the

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Speaker 2: social and economic spectrum, who also take consistently anti establishment positions,

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Speaker 2: skews older and male. Well, excuse mail, I'm not going

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Speaker 2: to admit to being older, but I think that's basically right.

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Speaker 1: And in the quadrant.

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Speaker 2: So you've got the chart here divides up into four quadrants,

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Speaker 2: and I'm in the I am in the very very

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Speaker 2: upper right hand corner of the conservative quadrant. You hold

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Speaker 2: conservative views on both economic and social issues, favoring traditional

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Speaker 2: values and free markets. And you say, if we had

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Speaker 2: multi party system in America, I would be in the

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Speaker 2: Conservative Party. So when you look at all these tribes

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Speaker 2: and you've got eight different ones, where do most people

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Speaker 2: break down?

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Speaker 1: Am I a minority opinion? Or am I one of

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Speaker 1: the larger party, one of the larger tribes out there.

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Speaker 4: So loyal left and loyal right are the two biggest

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Speaker 4: tribes we have right now, and they're the ones that

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Speaker 4: have grown the most in the last say two years.

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Speaker 4: We've been tracking this since the tribes were new last year,

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Speaker 4: but we've been tracking people's political ideology for a while.

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Speaker 4: And folks who are are you know, pretty rock solid

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Speaker 4: conservatives are pretty down, you know, down the column progressive.

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Speaker 4: They're going to play a big role in this election.

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Speaker 4: In the midterms. This is a turn out your base

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Speaker 4: kind of election. But there are also six other groups

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Speaker 4: that we've got throughout the middle. You know, within the right,

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Speaker 4: there's moderate folks. On the right, there are what we

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Speaker 4: call new Republican populists. They're not very ideological, but they

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Speaker 4: like Donald Trump a lot. They're really populists. They got

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Speaker 4: folks middle American optimists. They are more centrists, but you

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Speaker 4: wouldn't call them moderate Republicans there. They're a little more

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Speaker 4: checked out. They don't vote in mid terms as much.

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Speaker 4: So we look at all of those different flavors.

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Speaker 5: On the left.

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Speaker 4: A big problem that the left is going to have

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Speaker 4: is that when you look at their primary electorates, they've

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Speaker 4: got these loyal left folks who are very progressive, but

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Speaker 4: that's not a majority of the Democratic coalition. They've got

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Speaker 4: folks who had some more conservative views too. Some Democrats

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Speaker 4: do care about things like funding the police and making

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Speaker 4: sure that we have a secure border. And so those voters,

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Speaker 4: you know, they may not be in sync with all

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Speaker 4: of the Democratic politicians getting all the buzz these.

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Speaker 5: Days, Kristin.

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Speaker 2: When you look at these eight tribes, which of them

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Speaker 2: has the most voters who are actually likely to turn

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Speaker 2: out in an election, and which of them has the

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Speaker 2: most infrequent voters, so the least likely to vote.

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Speaker 4: So the three that are the most likely to vote

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Speaker 4: are the loyal left, the loyal right, and what we

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Speaker 4: call electability democrats, which are kind of those folks I

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Speaker 4: was just describing. They are Democrats. They have been voting

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Speaker 4: Democratic forever and ever and ever, but they are also

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Speaker 4: worried about the Mamdani effect on their party. They look

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Speaker 4: at the Grand plat Ner debacle and they say, oh,

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Speaker 4: this feels like the wrong approach, and they're very likely

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Speaker 4: to vote for Republicans. You have that loyal right and

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Speaker 4: don't let anybody tell you that the magabase is depressed

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Speaker 4: and isn't going to vote, they are fired up. The

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Speaker 4: problem for Republicans is the moderate Republicans. They claim they're

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Speaker 4: very likely to vote, but then we ask second question,

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Speaker 4: and I like this second question better. It's not how

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Speaker 4: likely are you to vote? It's how motivated are you

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Speaker 4: to vote? How likely you are a guess about your future.

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Speaker 4: But motivated is how you feel right down. Moderate Republicans

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Speaker 4: not feeling motivated right now.

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Speaker 2: We could spend all day on this, and I, frankly,

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Speaker 2: when the show goes off the air in ten seconds,

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Speaker 2: I probably will. Kristin Soltis Anderson Echelon Insights. Go to

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Speaker 2: echelon insights dot com slash tribes look at their new

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Speaker 2: data on America's political tribes.

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Speaker 1: We're done for the day. See you tomorrow. Scott Jennings

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Speaker 1: for Salem. Thanks for listening.