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Speaker 2: Our mission is to provide encouragement, hope and challenge to

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Speaker 2: help push you past your limits and.

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Speaker 1: Reach goals you never thought possible.

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Speaker 2: Colossians two, verse six says, So, then, just as you

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Speaker 2: received Christ Jesus's Lord, continue to live your lives in Him,

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Speaker 2: rooted and built up in Him.

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Speaker 1: Amen. Now let's roll.

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Speaker 2: Hello everybody and welcome back into the Build Different Podcasts,

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Speaker 2: a place where we help you develop spiritual strength, mental resilience,

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Speaker 2: and a life that looks and loves more like Jesus. Today,

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Speaker 2: on this very first day of a brand new year,

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Speaker 2: we're kicking things off with the conversation I believe God

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Speaker 2: is going to use to shape your perspective for twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty six. We're talking with a man who embodies courage, consistency,

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Speaker 2: and godly resilience in a way few people ever will.

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Speaker 2: His name is Dylan Mandel. Many of you know a story.

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Speaker 2: Dylan is facing cancer, not for the first, second or

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Speaker 2: third time, but for the fourth time. Yet he refuses

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Speaker 2: to shrink back, to slow down, or to surrender his joy,

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Speaker 2: his purpose, or his faith. While most of us are

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Speaker 2: battling excuses, Dylan's battling a disease. Yet he shows up

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Speaker 2: every day with a mindset, a discipline, and a dependence

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Speaker 2: on God that challenges everything we think we know about strength.

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Speaker 2: Today we're talking about what it means to place or

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Speaker 2: hope in Jesus rather than in circumstances. How perspective can

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Speaker 2: change everything, how suffering can sharpen our gratitude and deepen

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Speaker 2: our faith, and why resilience isn't about trying harder, it's

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Speaker 2: about trusting deeper. So, if you're stepping into twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: if you've been battling discouragement, fear, complacency, or that quiet

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Speaker 2: temptation to give up. I believe this conversation is for you,

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Speaker 2: because today you're gonna hear from a man who is

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Speaker 2: truly built different and whose story reminds us that hope

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Speaker 2: is alive. God is present, and you are capable of

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Speaker 2: far more than you think when your strength comes from

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Speaker 2: the Lord.

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Speaker 1: Let's dive in.

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Speaker 2: Dylan, my friend, first and foremost, thank you so much

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Speaker 2: for joining me today. I'm really looking forward to this one.

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Speaker 3: Thanks, Zach, appreciate it. Man.

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Speaker 2: I tell you what, Dylan, twenty twenty six, Happy New Year.

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Speaker 2: Let me say that upfront. Obviously, the first day of

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Speaker 2: a new year, you said you're out in California. My

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Speaker 2: wife actually grew up Dylan, just so you know, in

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Speaker 2: We actually came back from Cali after our Thanksgiving trip.

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Speaker 2: And as we enter into New Year's you know this,

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Speaker 3: I'm not. I've just seen how unpredictable God's plan is,

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Speaker 2: I'm like you, man, I really am. I'm not the

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Speaker 2: and so that's something that God has placed on my life.

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Speaker 2: knowing that you might not be a resolution guy, is

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Speaker 3: Dude, I just want to be a good steward of

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Speaker 3: the testimony. I think that's been a huge topic of

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Speaker 3: prayer for me. It's like, God, You've just entrusted such

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's such a selfless perspective, my friend. Like you said,

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Speaker 2: You're actually wanting to steward to potentially be somebody else's

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Speaker 2: that time and time again. You know, one thing I

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Speaker 2: New Year's just it's a fun fact. The second Friday

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Speaker 2: I've been doing my research and why it dubbed Quitter's

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Speaker 2: Day is because fifty percent, fifty percent of resolution makers

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Speaker 2: to ask you this stand up front. Crazy, but you're

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Speaker 2: a You're a disciplined guy. You're somebody who posts a

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Speaker 2: lot of content. You get after it.

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Speaker 1: Brother.

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Speaker 2: I mean we might even I might ask for a

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Speaker 3: You I'll email you anything.

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 2: Let's go, Dylan. Why do you think so many people

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Speaker 3: I think people are just more committed in like the

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Speaker 3: That's interesting thought, like, Okay, why did people just give

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Speaker 3: to like your workout plan, you'll get there and you'll

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Speaker 3: get both. I think people just pick goals that they

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Speaker 3: which is entirely unsustainable, which is why you see fifty

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Speaker 3: I don't know, Like pick goals that you'll actually enjoy

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Speaker 3: there's he said that. There's all like all things are

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Speaker 3: God actually endorses it. Like what if you're just pursuing

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, Dylan, That's good right there. What

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Like, what are we actually committing ourselves to every single day?

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Speaker 2: And so it's recognizing, like what's the purpose that we're

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Speaker 2: they're already like cluing in with something that you're already

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Speaker 2: pierce their heart for a moment. There's somebody that's discouraged

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Speaker 2: just a word of encouragement, just real quick upfront for

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Speaker 3: Like just later motivation be that you have the God

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Speaker 3: far gone. You're during this year with big baggage. Okay, Well,

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Speaker 3: ask God, like, how can we use this for his glory?

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Speaker 3: an impossible situation, God, would you just do what you do?

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Speaker 3: Would you just do what you do best? Would you

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Speaker 3: do in my life this year? Of how you get

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Speaker 3: your title? Like, let's do impossible things in twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you something, Dylan. You know it brings

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Speaker 3: It's a good question. I remembrance, like you said, is

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Speaker 3: gave me so much encouragement. I was supposed to have

434
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Speaker 3: surgery on October twenty ninth and it got canceled because

435
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,679
Speaker 3: I actually found more disease in the body. And this

436
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Speaker 3: lady at church, she just said, you know, it doesn't

437
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Speaker 3: change the odds, that just increases the glory. And I'm like,

438
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Speaker 3: I'm like, dang, I'm gonna I'm gonna hold on to that, man.

439
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 3: I'm just holding onto that word right now, because you

440
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 3: might be in a situation where God the odds are

441
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Speaker 3: not changing for God, he might just want to get

442
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Speaker 3: more glory in the end. And it's like, maybe if

443
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 3: you took one step back and then took one step forward,

444
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 3: he might get this much glory. But if you took

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Speaker 3: fifteen steps backwards and your back is literally against the

446
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Speaker 3: pressed against the wall, and you're feeling that wall in

447
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,959
Speaker 3: your back and then God delivers you like he always

448
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Speaker 3: would in the end. I mean, how much more glory

449
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Speaker 3: does he receive? Raised to a god who just he

450
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 3: knows he's going to get you through. But he might

451
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 3: want you to save a soul in the meantime. He

452
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 3: might want to shape your heart through it. He might

453
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Speaker 3: want to give you new revelation and then deliver you.

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Speaker 3: It's like he works in beautiful ways. He just like

455
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 3: can never doubt that he's not a good father and

456
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Speaker 3: just trust in him that he'll just stay consistent with

457
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Speaker 3: that nature.

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Speaker 1: That's so powerful it really is.

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Speaker 2: It's this idea that maybe just maybe your circumstances aren't

460
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 2: quite changing yet because God wants to continue to up

461
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 2: the ante to receive more glory. That's who our God is,

462
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Speaker 2: Like you said already, he delights an impossibility and he's

463
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Speaker 2: a good father. And I think I kind of want

464
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Speaker 2: to dive into that. Man is you know, did you

465
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Speaker 2: grow up in the faith? Dylan?

466
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Speaker 1: Like when did you come to know the Lord?

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Speaker 2: I know you said that after that second bout of

468
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Speaker 2: cancers really where you kind of went all in with Jesus.

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Speaker 1: But did you get raised in a home where faith

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Speaker 1: was a thing. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I say, my biggest prayer warrior in my

472
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Speaker 3: life is my Grandma and she would just just pray

473
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Speaker 3: over us as kids. I mean she would write you know,

474
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Speaker 3: verses out when we were you know, five years old,

475
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Speaker 3: and we just keep him in our pockets. And you know,

476
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Speaker 3: I remember she gave me a sticky note, like just

477
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Speaker 3: a simple notepad that just said this the full John

478
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Speaker 3: three sixteen and I would I was like six, I'm

479
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:02,199
Speaker 3: just like we God still love the world, and you know,

480
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 3: should encourage me to go on like mission trips in

481
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Speaker 3: high school and then just be pursuing it, volunteering at

482
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Speaker 3: the youth camps and all the things. And so I

483
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 3: just grew up involved in the church mostly because Microandma

484
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 3: is just such an encouragement to my brother and my

485
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Speaker 3: sister and I that's great.

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Speaker 2: The reason I asked that is because it's so important

487
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,959
Speaker 2: to be able to have people that are around us

488
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 2: praying for us, supporting us, sharpening us as we navigate

489
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Speaker 2: challenge and hardship. But I'm even thinking of somebody Dylan

490
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 2: today that maybe wasn't raised in the faith and they

491
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 2: have a lot of questions about this God that we're

492
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Speaker 2: talking about. They know they're hearing your story and your testimony,

493
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 2: and they're like, but Dylan, you know, wouldn't you say, like,

494
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Speaker 2: why would God continue to allow you to go through

495
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 2: all of these things. I know you're saying that He's

496
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 2: good and you're declaring these promises, but like, that doesn't

497
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 2: seem very loving to me. When you're praying for a

498
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 2: mere then all of a sudden it seems like you've

499
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 2: gotten it. But then another diagnosis in another diagnosis, like

500
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 2: how do you continually to turn to the Lord and

501
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 2: continue to give his name praise to a person out

502
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 2: there who might be questioning. I guess what my question

503
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 2: really comes down to, Dylan, is how do you continue

504
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 2: to develop trust even in the midst of trying times.

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Speaker 3: I heard Tim Keller say, if Jesus really did raise

506
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 3: on the third day, then everything will be okay. Just

507
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 3: this simple statement, Ye, it carries so much power. If

508
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 3: Jesus rose on the third day, then it will all

509
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 3: be okay. Everything will be okay. And I think if

510
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 3: you can trust that Jesus really rose, and you believe

511
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 3: that in your heart more than anything, then you will

512
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 3: be okay in the midst of your pain in the

513
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 3: midst of your challenge. If Jesus rose, then your God

514
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 3: will be with you in the midst of your battles too.

515
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 3: Jesus actually had to physically die, and God still delivered him.

516
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 3: I don't think you're going to die in your battle,

517
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Speaker 3: and God in his goodness will still deliver you, like

518
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Speaker 3: we had just talked about, like to the more the

519
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 3: weight of the problem, the more glory. In the end,

520
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 3: Jesus was dead for three days. People were waiting for

521
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Speaker 3: the Messiah to if people were leaving Jerusalem. Oh, we

522
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 3: thought Jesus was gonna come back, and he caught these

523
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Speaker 3: people on the path right, But he died, was dead

524
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Speaker 3: for three whole days. God got infinite glory, and we

525
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 3: can trust that our God will do the same for us.

526
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Speaker 3: There's no such thing as a believer to have pain

527
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Speaker 3: without purpose. There's so much purpose in it.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: He might want you just to become more intimate with him,

530
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 3: and he'll say, yo, you'll never become intimate with me.

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Speaker 3: If everything smooth sailing, if your life was perfect, that's

532
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 3: just a recipe for being self reliant. You know, uncertainty

533
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 3: leads to dependency. Tomorrow is not guaranteed of my life.

534
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 3: But when I'm with him, it's almost as sure as

535
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 3: anything else. Man, Come on, dude, you're preaching. Dude, I'm

536
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 3: telling you what, Dylan, Let's go. Let's go.

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Speaker 1: God has his hand on your life. My friend. You're

538
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: encouraging me, You're encouraging my heart.

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Speaker 2: I remember coming across a prayer several years ago Jonathan Evans,

540
00:31:59,320 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 2: san Antonia.

541
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Speaker 1: Evans.

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00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 2: He was praying at an event that I was at,

543
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 2: and he concluded his message by praying this simple phrase, God,

544
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 2: even if you do nothing else, You've already done enough.

545
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 2: And Brother, that struck me to my core because I

546
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 2: think about how often I pray for God to do

547
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 2: things for me from my loved ones, protect us, guide us,

548
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 2: lead us, give me this right, heal me of this.

549
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 2: But then it's genuinely like if we believe, like you

550
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 2: said to Tim Keller quote that if Jesus raised from

551
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 2: the dead, then everything will be okay, Like if we

552
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 2: really believe that in our hearts, and even if God

553
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 2: does nothing else, then like He's already done enough, then

554
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 2: I have perfect security. If I know who I am

555
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 2: in Christ and I am a son or somebody out

556
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 2: there listening today, if you are a daughter or a

557
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 2: son of God, then man, oh man, we have this

558
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 2: perfect presence in our midst no matter what we may

559
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 2: be going through, no matter how painful, no matter the tribulation,

560
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 2: the trial, the diagnosis, no matter how difficult life may look.

561
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 2: We serve this infinitely powerful God who loves us with

562
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Speaker 2: the love that we can't even fathom or imagine, and

563
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 2: a God who was waiting to do exceedingly abundantly more

564
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 2: than we could ever ask, think or imagine. And so

565
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 2: if that's the God that we serve, then easily we

566
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 2: can place our trust not in our circumstances, but we

567
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 2: can place our hope in the person of Christ.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, Dylan, because you have this

570
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 2: unique perspective on life, and I'll share this. This is

571
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Speaker 2: kind of funny. When I first found your social media

572
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 2: pages and started following you a little while ago, honestly

573
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 2: it's been several months, if not a couple of years,

574
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 2: I noticed that you were just this dude who genuinely

575
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 2: loved Jesus like with everything in you. And then you

576
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 2: just did these crazy intense workouts and were just shredded

577
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,959
Speaker 2: discipline getting after and I'm thinking, man, that's somebody that like,

578
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 2: I want to see that type of content. I didn't

579
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 2: even know your story. I didn't even know that you

580
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 2: were battling with cancer. I didn't know any of that stuff.

581
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 2: I just watched the way that you lived your life,

582
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 2: and I thought, Man, that's somebody that I want to emulate.

583
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 2: That's someone that I want to be like, that's someone

584
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 2: that can sharpen me even from a distance. And so

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00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 2: I just wanted to say that to you upfront, to say, man,

586
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 2: God is using you in the way that you're living

587
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 2: your life, even in the midst of trial, to reach

588
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 2: people across literally across the country that might be a

589
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,280
Speaker 2: couple of years older than you. But God is using

590
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 2: you to sharpen me. And I want to ask you

591
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 2: this that perspective that discipline, especially like the physical discipline,

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Speaker 2: has that become a big factor that has really bled

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Speaker 2: into some of your spiritual discipline as well.

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Speaker 3: Would you say, yeah, I mean I love to train.

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00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 3: I love I love I learned to love it. And

596
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Speaker 3: when you love something, it doesn't feel like a chore.

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00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 3: You know, people, that's a huge thing that I talked

598
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Speaker 3: about in the beginning, Like, if you love the process,

599
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 3: you're going to achieve the goal. But I'll say, being

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Speaker 3: consistent in everything you do will just lead you to

601
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 3: be consistent in your walk with Jesus. Like, if I,

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Speaker 3: let's say, my goal is nothing else besides overcoming a

603
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 3: sin habit in my life, that's my goal. I want

604
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 3: to overcome this sin, this has this has to go.

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00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 3: That's my goal. But if I'm inconsistently eating, inconsistently sleeping,

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00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 3: I'm inconsistent with uh me being slow to speak and

607
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 3: click to anger.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: If I'm like, you know, if I'm not controlling myself,

610
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Speaker 3: if I'm you know, not poorly managing my food intake,

611
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 3: or I'm not working out when I should be, that's

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00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 3: going to bleed into my spiritual life. Like it's so paralleled.

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00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 3: But if you're going to be consistent with your eating,

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00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 3: you're sleeping, your workout schedule, how you're treating people who

615
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 3: you are as a brother, husband, or a father, that's

616
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 3: going to lead your lead into spiritual discipline. It's so paralleled.

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00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 3: When you're consistent with one, you're consistent with the other.

618
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 3: And when you take out one, you take out both.

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00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 3: And when you when your goal is to is to

620
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 3: take out a sin habit you being consistent in just

621
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Speaker 3: your life and saying no, no, no, I am gonna say

622
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Speaker 3: no to my flesh when I want a sweet treat,

623
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Speaker 3: and I'm gonna choose to have you know, ground beef,

624
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna deny my flesh here, Deny my flesh here,

625
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 3: deny my flesh here, my flesh here. It's gonna then

626
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 3: make denying my flesh the constant in my life. But

627
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Speaker 3: if I'm like dude, I'm gonna indulge in the flesh,

628
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 3: indulge in pleasure, to indulge in what I want, comfortability,

629
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Speaker 3: you know, conformity. Then all of a sudden, when it

630
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 3: comes to you know, do I choose to break my

631
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 3: flesh in the sin that I want to cut out

632
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 3: of my life, It's like you're just gonna fall to it.

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Speaker 3: Consistent in both.

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Speaker 2: So it's saying, how you do one thing is how

635
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 2: you do everything, And so being consistent in the little

636
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 2: facets of our life as well, the physical dissciplines, the mental,

637
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 2: the emotional disciplines, the social disciplines. Who were hanging out

638
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 2: with right, all of those things influence and impact our

639
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,399
Speaker 2: walk with God. We know that, and so being able

640
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,959
Speaker 2: to recognize man, I want to live with a life

641
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 2: that is holistically healthy and what that looks like, whatever

642
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 2: it might be. As I continue to put my body

643
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 2: as a sacrifice before the living God, it's a temple.

644
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 2: I need to treat it that way in every facet.

645
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 2: And I like this whole idea that you continually discipline yourself,

646
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 2: you sharpen all of these areas so that way it

647
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 2: can almost be in alignment or be walking congruently with

648
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 2: your spiritual life as well. Dylan, I heard a story

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Speaker 2: a long time ago in Harvard Business Reviews top ten

650
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Speaker 2: must reads on mental Toughness. I love that book. I

651
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,399
Speaker 2: always shouted out because it's just a really good read

652
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Speaker 2: if people are looking for short little bursts of how

653
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Speaker 2: do we build resilience practically in our own personal lives.

654
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Speaker 2: And there is one story of a guy named Sidney Rittenberg,

655
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Speaker 2: and Sidney Rittenberg had his crucible moment. His most difficult

656
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Speaker 2: challenge in his life was sixteen years of unjust imprisonment

657
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Speaker 2: and solitary confinement and communists China.

658
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Speaker 1: Way back in the day.

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Speaker 2: He was wrongfully accused of a crime he never committed

660
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Speaker 2: and spent sixteen years. The first year was in solitary

661
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Speaker 2: confinement where he couldn't even outstretch his arms, and it

662
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 2: was in complete darkness, so he never saw the light

663
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Speaker 2: of day for three hundred and sixty five days unless

664
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Speaker 2: he was maybe being interrogated or something like that. All

665
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Speaker 2: he had was a little candle that would flick her

666
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 2: back and forth. And I started to think about, like, dude,

667
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Speaker 2: I could never I mean, I probably could if I

668
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Speaker 2: set my mind to it and I prayed through it.

669
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Speaker 2: But just like thinking off the top of my head, man,

670
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 2: that sounds almost impossible. How do you not go crazy

671
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Speaker 2: lose your mind? And the majority of the individuals in

672
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Speaker 2: that prison camp did, but Sidney Rittenberg did it. And

673
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Speaker 2: upon him getting out of prison sixteen years later, they

674
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Speaker 2: interviewed him and they're asking him like, how in the

675
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Speaker 2: world did you do it? How'd you stay calm, cool

676
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Speaker 2: and collected in the face of such adversity, And he

677
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: said something that has always struck me. He said, I

678
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Speaker 2: think it's because I recognized that happiness is not a

679
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Speaker 2: function of my sir ccumstances. Happiness is a function of

680
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Speaker 2: my outlook on life. Inky Johnson, who's become kind of

681
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Speaker 2: a friend and a mentor of mind. He always says this,

682
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Speaker 2: that how you view what you do will always affect

683
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Speaker 2: how you do what you do. And when I start

684
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Speaker 2: to think about perspective and I start to think about

685
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Speaker 2: the outlook that we have because of what God has

686
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Speaker 2: done for us, because of our faith in Him, because

687
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Speaker 2: of this resilience journey for you, one thing I've recognized

688
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 2: is resilience really comes down to one simple thing. It's

689
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Speaker 2: positive adaptation in the presence of adversity. It's being able

690
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Speaker 2: to see things a little bit different. And I wrote

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Speaker 2: this down as I was just thinking about you and

692
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Speaker 2: your story. A lot of people, Dylan, when they hear

693
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Speaker 2: the word cancer, they instantly think about all that cancer

694
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Speaker 2: takes away. I think about loved ones, right, I think

695
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Speaker 2: about the difficulty and the challenges that it can bring,

696
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Speaker 2: that it can infect people with.

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Speaker 1: But I wanted to ask.

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Speaker 2: You, man like in hearing your unique perspective on life,

699
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Speaker 2: your unique perspective on faith, resilience, discipline. I'm not going

700
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Speaker 2: to ask you what cancer has taken, but I honestly

701
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Speaker 2: want to ask you what cancer has given you, Like,

702
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Speaker 2: has it given you a different perspective? Has it enhanced

703
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 2: your gratitude? Has it made you take relationships a little

704
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Speaker 2: bit more seriously? What would you say cancer has given you, Dylan,

705
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Speaker 2: in terms of a gift.

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Speaker 3: I think cancer has given me nothing, but God's given

707
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Speaker 3: me much. It's like, so it's like it's hard for

708
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Speaker 3: me to think about cancer this season because it's just

709
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Speaker 3: a weapon of the enemy. It's just such a weapon

710
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Speaker 3: of the enemy that God has just formed so much

711
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Speaker 3: in me through. It's not what cancer has given me,

712
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 3: but it's what has God given me to grow me

713
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Speaker 3: through the midst of the attack. Cancer is merely just

714
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Speaker 3: a weapon of the enemy to Stop's plan in my life.

715
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 3: And yet the more the enemy wants to attack me

716
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 3: with cancer, the more God, the more glory will God

717
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Speaker 3: get in the end, which is why it's kind of

718
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Speaker 3: backfiring on the enemy. But man, God has God has

719
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Speaker 3: given me so much through cancer. God has given me

720
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Speaker 3: I think just cherishment. I really don't doubt that. I

721
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Speaker 3: you know, I'm gonna live eighty ninety years. You know,

722
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Speaker 3: there's no doubt in that. When you get to live

723
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Speaker 3: in Christ, he reads Psalm ninety one, you know, like

724
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Speaker 3: it's like he's our refuge and our fortress. He actually

725
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Speaker 3: provide He provided and promised long life to the to

726
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Speaker 3: people of Israel and that and actually we get the

727
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Speaker 3: better covenant than even that, you know, for him, for

728
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Speaker 3: him to say I'll promise you long life to people

729
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Speaker 3: that are even not in the New Covenant is to

730
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Speaker 3: say that we have a better promise than even that.

731
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Speaker 3: I think what He's given me his dependency. Like we

732
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Speaker 3: talked about, I really don't want anything of the world.

733
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Speaker 3: I don't I really don't care about. You know, people

734
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Speaker 3: message me with offers for whatever, you know, with money involved,

735
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Speaker 3: and I'm like, I don't care at all. And it's

736
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 3: it almost feels like immunity from a lot of things,

737
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Speaker 3: like the temptations of the world. I just don't care.

738
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Speaker 3: God's really just broken me from the desires of the

739
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Speaker 3: flesh and the sense where like I don't want anything

740
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Speaker 3: but him. I want what he offers. I want his kingdom.

741
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Speaker 3: I want to go to heaven and there's like, you know,

742
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Speaker 3: just marvelous heavenly joys and treasures there he created. This

743
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 3: is just a desire just to make disciples here, do

744
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 3: a job here, and then it's like do the work

745
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 3: now and then you'll be rewarded in the end. What

746
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Speaker 3: He's what God's given me in the midst of cancer

747
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Speaker 3: is just you don't want anything of this world. You know,

748
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Speaker 3: the pearliest thing of the world is not even accepted

749
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Speaker 3: in heaven, like the nicest car, the biggest house, the

750
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Speaker 3: biggest you know, following or faint whatever. God would see

751
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Speaker 3: that in heaven and say cast that out. I don't

752
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Speaker 3: want what the world offers. I want what He offers,

753
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 3: you know, Like dude, if he his kingdom needs to

754
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Speaker 3: be talked about. Yes, God's given me through cancer, just

755
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 3: a longing for his kingdom. Like dude, people are so

756
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 3: focused on the world. People want, you know, a bigger

757
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 3: bonus check. People want, you know, bigger things of the world.

758
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Speaker 3: I don't want any of that world. I want him.

759
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 3: I want his heaven. I want his new Jerusalem. I

760
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 3: want to ride on a white horse. I want to

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Speaker 3: eat at his table, you know. I want to drink

762
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 3: his wine and eat his fruit. You know, I want

763
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 3: to experience that. And the enemy is just going to

764
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 3: be creating just just false replicas of what heaven offers

765
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 3: and making just a lesser version of that here and

766
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 3: try and just distract us to say, no, you want

767
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Speaker 3: this of the world. And not what he offers. And

768
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 3: I feel like God's given me a lot of that

769
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Speaker 3: perspective through cancer.

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Speaker 2: Amen, bro Amen, my whole entire The verse that God

771
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Speaker 2: placed on my heart as we went into twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: five and I said my word for the year was faithful.

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Speaker 2: Was first Thessalonians, Chapter four, verses eleven to twelve. To

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Speaker 2: make it your aim or your ambition, to live a

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Speaker 2: quiet life, minding your own business, working with your hands,

776
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Speaker 2: just as you've been instructed. Why so in verse twelve,

777
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Speaker 2: you might win the respect of outsiders and not grow

778
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Speaker 2: dependent on anyone. And that doesn't mean that you don't

779
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 2: need people, or you don't need to walk alongside of people.

780
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Speaker 2: You don't need people in your camp. No, that's not

781
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 2: what it's saying. What it's saying is that you're not

782
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Speaker 2: dependent upon what you might get in return for something

783
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Speaker 2: that you did. You're not dependent upon their applause. You're

784
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 2: not dependent upon giving your responsibility to way to other people.

785
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Speaker 2: But it's just staying the course and remaining faithful, because

786
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Speaker 2: we serve a guy who is faithful to us. You

787
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 2: also mentioned Man earlier, one of my favorite passages in

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Speaker 2: all of scripture, and that's kind of how I want

789
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 2: to wrap a bow tie on this incredible conversation my

790
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Speaker 2: friend Daniel.

791
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: Chapter three.

792
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Speaker 2: It was a message that God placed on my heart

793
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Speaker 2: several years back. Shadwick, Meshack and Benego. For the audience

794
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Speaker 2: member that may not know the story quite well, first

795
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 2: and foremost, I would challenge you to open up your

796
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 2: Bible get a copy. If you don't have one, we

797
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 2: will send you one for free. Genuinely, just this idea

798
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Speaker 2: of what it means to walk in the face of

799
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Speaker 2: the fire, and these three men. In the entire empire

800
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Speaker 2: of Babylon, there was one big, bad kid, Nebekinezer, and

801
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 2: he built this massive golden statue. Some theologians say that

802
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Speaker 2: it may have been of him, others of his gods

803
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Speaker 2: that he worshiped pagan gods ninety feet tall and nine

804
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 2: feet wide. And upon the sound of particular instruments or music,

805
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 2: everyone in the entire empire was supposed to bow down

806
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Speaker 2: and worship King nebuican Azer's gods in this golden statue

807
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Speaker 2: he had built, and everybody did except for three men, Shadrack,

808
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 2: Meshak and a Bendigo. And as the story goes, King

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00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 2: Nebuican Azer had just actually promoted them in the kingdom

810
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 2: like right underneath him. So he liked these guys, right.

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Speaker 2: His heart was almost softened to these gentlemen. But when

812
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 2: he heard the news that they weren't following through with

813
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 2: this decree that he had just signed recently, he's probably mad, frustrated, embarrassed,

814
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Speaker 2: as some of you, maybe bosses or people in leadership

815
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 2: may be. And so he calls him into his presence

816
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Speaker 2: and he asked this question, is it true? Is it

817
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 2: true shadow at Mishak and a Bendigo that upon the

818
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 2: sound of particular instruments, you don't bow down in worship.

819
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Speaker 2: And you know, I'll give you one more chance. We're

820
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 2: going to bring in and here come the instrumentalists. They're

821
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 2: going to start playing as soon as they do. If

822
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 2: you bow down and worship, then all will be fine,

823
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,280
Speaker 2: and well we'll actually forget like it never even happened.

824
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 2: But if you don't, there's a burning, fiery furnace awaiting

825
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,919
Speaker 2: your feminine death sentence. And I love Dylan the way

826
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Speaker 2: that those three men responded. They said, like King, no offense,

827
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Speaker 2: but you don't even have the right to approach us

828
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Speaker 2: about this matter. In other words, we've already made up

829
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Speaker 2: our minds. And then they gave us this three tiered

830
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Speaker 2: prayer that shaped my life. They said, not only do

831
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Speaker 2: we believe that our God is able, number one, but

832
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Speaker 2: number two, we believe that he will deliver us from

833
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Speaker 2: your Majesty's hand.

834
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Speaker 1: And that's what we've been saying.

835
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Speaker 2: We believe that we serve a god who delights an

836
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 2: impossibility that's not only capable, but we have the confidence

837
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 2: that he will. But then they said two words that

838
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 2: forever shape the trajectory of my faith. But even if

839
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,399
Speaker 2: he does not, then we still will not bow down

840
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Speaker 2: and worship these guys to the golden image that you've

841
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 2: set up before us. And so many people might be

842
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 2: listening and saying, like, dude, what a proclamation of faith,

843
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 2: Like I'm sure God spared them from the fire. No,

844
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 2: it said the king nebucan Ezer. It says that his

845
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 2: disposition changed toward these men. He ordered it to be

846
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 2: turned up seven times hotter. He bound them in chains

847
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 2: and shackles, kept them in their full clothes. You can

848
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 2: only imagine, says that the guards that took these three

849
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,280
Speaker 2: men up and cast them into the burning fiery furnace

850
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Speaker 2: died because of the heat of the just the flames.

851
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Speaker 2: But then it says that as King nebucan Ezer sat

852
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 2: back and probably thought that he was just chilling, and

853
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 2: they got what was coming to him that he was astonished,

854
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 2: and he rose in haste, asking did we not cast

855
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 2: three men bound into the fire? And his guards are like, yeah,

856
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 2: that's true, O King, And he says, then why do

857
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 2: I see four men unbound walking in the midst of

858
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 2: the fire and the fourth looks like the son of

859
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Speaker 2: the gods. Well, that has always revealed to me, Dylan,

860
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 2: and I'm about to pose you a question, my friend,

861
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Speaker 2: setting you up here for a second, putting the ball

862
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Speaker 2: on the tee. I've always recognized is that God may

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Speaker 2: not offer perfect security from the fire, but He will

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Speaker 2: always offer us perfect security in the midst of it,

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Speaker 2: my friend, for you. My dad shared this with me

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Speaker 2: a long time ago. As we enter into twenty twenty six,

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Speaker 2: I'm just thinking about this quote. He would always say, Zach,

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Speaker 2: it's your moments of powerlessness that will draw you closer

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Speaker 2: to and reveal the character of God's heart the most.

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Speaker 2: And so what I would love for you to share

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Speaker 2: my friend is to the person out there who's disappointed,

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Speaker 2: the person who's discouraged, the person who's in despair, the

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Speaker 2: person who feels like they're up against the fiery furnace,

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Speaker 2: my friend, what has God revealed to you in the

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Speaker 2: midst of the fiery moments of your own life? Dylan

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Speaker 2: and remind them about how significant it is to have

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Speaker 2: friends for the fire, but to always remember that there

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Speaker 2: is a fourth man in their fire as well.

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Speaker 3: You may be in the fire, but the fire can't

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Speaker 3: burn you. The fire can't touch you. When you're in Christ,

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Speaker 3: you actually, it says, you put to death to your

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Speaker 3: old self and become the new self. The things that

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Speaker 3: can burn your old self cannot touch you anymore because

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Speaker 3: you are in a new creation in Christ. And that's like,

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Speaker 3: that's the picture, that's the new Covenant picture of Daniel

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Speaker 3: three is to say that like they were fully, you know, sustained,

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Speaker 3: protected in the midst of a burning, blazing fire, so

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Speaker 3: are we because instead of us being in a fire

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Speaker 3: with Jesus holding his hand, we get to be in

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Speaker 3: the fire with Jesus actually inside of us, living in us,

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Speaker 3: and it's his spirit who gives us life. It is

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Speaker 3: his spirit who gives life to our mortal bodies, and

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Speaker 3: that's resurrection power that even cancer can't touch.

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Speaker 2: Come on, my friend, MY final question is how can

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Speaker 2: we be praying for you, Dylan, Because I know that

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Speaker 2: after this conversation, my friend, I'm going to commit and

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Speaker 2: stay consistent in my prayers for you.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I want to be healed. I'm ready to

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Speaker 3: be healed. I believe that it's his will to heal.

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Speaker 3: I don't think there's ever a case where it's not

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Speaker 3: his will to heal. So just just declaring that his

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Speaker 3: healing will will come to pass entirely the manner that

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Speaker 3: he wants it to happen. I pray that he gets

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Speaker 3: maximum glory. I pray that maximum souls will be saved.

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Speaker 3: I pray that you know that will find prodigals home

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Speaker 3: because of this testimony. Yeah, I pray that the fullness

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Speaker 3: of what he desires to get out of this will happen.

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Speaker 1: Amen, my friend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I promise I will be committed to praying for

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Speaker 2: you every day as soon as I leave here. I

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Speaker 2: have a prayer journal and I will make sure that

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Speaker 2: your name falls right at the top of my list.

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Speaker 2: And I love praying for my friends, and you might

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Speaker 2: be a new friend, but I believe you're a fast friend,

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Speaker 2: my friend. I want to close this way, and I've

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Speaker 2: never done this before, Dylan, but if you might, would

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Speaker 2: you mind praying over just our audience and the listeners

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Speaker 2: out there, especially those that might be navigating some painful experiences.

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Speaker 3: Father, God, just thank you for the cross. Thank you

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Speaker 3: that you're just. Your cross was enough. If we never

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Speaker 3: got anything else, ever, and again, your cross would still

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Speaker 3: be enough. Thank you for the power of the blood.

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Speaker 3: Thank you that you covered us clean. Thank you that

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Speaker 3: resurrection life gets to live in us even in the

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Speaker 3: midst of our fire. Oh Lord, I pray healing over

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Speaker 3: our friends. I pray protection over our friends. I pray

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Speaker 3: that suffering will not will no longer be allowed to

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Speaker 3: occur in our lives. I just declare just the authority

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Speaker 3: of God, the authority of God overall evil, that all

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Speaker 3: attacks of the enemy goes bow to this word of

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Speaker 3: the Lord God. I just pray peace in this year.

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Speaker 3: I pray closer intimacy. This year. I pray that you

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Speaker 3: would turn us to be closer to You. Lord. I

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Speaker 3: don't necessarily pray for prosperity, but I just pray to

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Speaker 3: be just further shaped into the men that you desire

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Speaker 3: us to be. Whether that's allowing us to sit and

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Speaker 3: fire or to be delivered. Lord, regardless of all of

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Speaker 3: that was you just shape us to be closer images

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Speaker 3: of you this year in Jesus' name.

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Speaker 2: A man, friend, Dylan, you're a blessing bro. Where can

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Speaker 2: our audience members go to find out a little bit

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Speaker 2: more about you, maybe to get connected to you, whether

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Speaker 2: through socials or anything like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just at Dylan Mandel across all socials. Super easy.

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Speaker 2: Dylan again, man, thank you for your time, thank you

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Speaker 2: for just all of the wisdom that you imparted to

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Speaker 2: us today. You're an encouragement man, and I believe that

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Speaker 2: God is doing something special and in throughout your life

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Speaker 2: and your leadership. And Man, I promise your testimony it

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Speaker 2: has moved me to my core. It has touched me.

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Speaker 2: God is shaping me because of your story. And so

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Speaker 2: I would encourage you keep on, keep it on, seriously

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Speaker 2: fight the good fight of faith, because I promise, none

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Speaker 2: of the pain that you've gone through, none of the

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Speaker 2: suffering is happening in vain, my friends. So thank you

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Speaker 2: for your time, Thanks for joining me today.

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Speaker 3: Thank you Dylan.

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Speaker 2: Happy New Year, my friend, God bless you and God's

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Speaker 2: speed to all of our friends. Are Bill Different, Thank

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Speaker 2: thank you so much for joining us for this powerful

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Speaker 2: New Year's Day conversation with Dylan Mandel. What we heard

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Speaker 2: today is more than inspiration. It's perspective, it's truth, and

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Speaker 2: it's a reminder of where real strength comes from. Dylan

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Speaker 2: showed us that resilience isn't found in trying harder. It's

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Speaker 2: found in trusting God more deeply. It's found in choosing

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Speaker 2: hope when circumstances scream otherwise. It's found in gratitude and

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Speaker 2: discipline and purpose, and in the unshakable belief that God

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Speaker 2: is not done writing your story. As you step into

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, I want you to remember this. You

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Speaker 2: don't have to be perfect to be powerful. You don't

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Speaker 2: have to be fearless to be faithful. You just have

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Speaker 2: to keep showing up, keep trusting Jesus, and keep moving forward,

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Speaker 2: one obedient step at a time. You were created for

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Speaker 2: this year, you were equipped for this season, and by

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Speaker 2: God's grace, you are built different. If this conversation encouraged

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Speaker 2: you share with a friend who needs a fresh dose

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Speaker 2: of hope today, and make sure to subscribes you don't

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Speaker 2: miss the powerful conversations coming your way throughout this entire year.

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Speaker 2: Ntil next time, stay rooted, stay resilient, stay ready, and

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Speaker 2: remember in Christ you are built different.

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Speaker 1: Happy New Year, my friend,