1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: American student organization in the country, fighting for the future 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: of our republic. My call is to fight evil and 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: if the most important thing is doing good, you'll end 7 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You got to 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: stop sending your kids to college. You should get married 9 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. 10 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: Go start at turning point. 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I recommend to 21 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: my family, friends and viewers. 22 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 3: All right, our two is underway at the Charlie Kirkshaw. 23 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 3: Welcome back. We are honored by the presence of a 24 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 3: great man, gat great patriot, great friend of Charlie's. And 25 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 3: turning point and that is the president of Hillsdale College, 26 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 3: doctor Larry Are and welcome, welcome back their great to 27 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 3: be with you. Honored, honored as always to have you, 28 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 3: to have your friendship and your partnership, and to have 29 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 3: your thoughts. 30 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 2: Uh. 31 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 3: When it comes to this show, because we are sort 32 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 3: of a news of the day, we cover these these 33 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 3: changing themes the world events. And one of the things 34 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 3: that we were talking about is in our one was you. 35 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 3: You sort of have two storylines that I think are 36 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 3: going to prove techtonic. You have Virginia is now Democrat run. 37 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 3: Governor Youngkin is no more. We've got Spaanberger and the 38 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 3: Democrat she's got. I mean, it's a trifecta. Right, They've 39 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 3: got the legislature and they've got the the governor's mansion. 40 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 3: They're going full Marxist instantly. Trump lost that state by 41 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 3: six points, that's six points, but they are going they're 42 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 3: acting like full on California. Simultaneously, You've got a storyline 43 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 3: in Davos where they're signaling a green light to China. Yeah, 44 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 3: and it might be easy for us to sort of 45 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 3: blackpill on this. And I guess there is a question, 46 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 3: you know, a larger question over arching all of this, 47 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 3: which is our liberal Western democracy's prone or is it 48 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 3: inevitable this slide into a malaise into leftism. So there's 49 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 3: a lot there, doctor arm But you're the only one 50 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 3: I could think of that could handle all of those 51 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 3: questions all at once. 52 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,679 Speaker 4: There you go. Well, the first thing is that every 53 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 4: person should banish the idea of inevitability in human affairs 54 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 4: from their life. 55 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 5: Perfect. 56 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 4: One of the themes you learn if you studied the 57 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 4: very great Winston Churchill is it's not trends that matter, 58 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 4: it's choices. And you just think of the amazing reversals 59 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 4: that are that have happened in the world. I mean, 60 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 4: Trump is such a reversal. Right, That's the reason he's 61 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 4: hated because remember these movements. China is part of the movement, 62 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 4: and the European Union is part of the movement. And 63 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 4: the liberalism in Western liberal democracies called it's progressivism, and 64 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 4: that's part of that's an offshoot of German historicism and 65 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 4: its thought is history is going somewhere. We can know 66 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 4: what that is, and we can serve it, and where 67 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 4: it's going is the transformation of everything under our control. 68 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 4: That's what they believe. That's one of the biggest ideological movements. 69 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 4: If you, if you want to, if anybody wants to 70 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 4: read that, Hillsteale College has a constitution course where a 71 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 4: constitution reader. Every kid has got to take it, you 72 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 4: can get it. The last third of it is the 73 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 4: writing of the early American progressives. And what they believed 74 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 4: was this is inevitable, this is going to happen, and 75 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 4: it's the only promise because we now know by the 76 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 4: way that we don't really know anything objectively, and we 77 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:22,799 Speaker 4: know that there is no God, and so the old 78 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 4: idea of the laws of nature and Nature's God, they 79 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 4: reject that. And so this is their effort to give meaning, 80 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 4: meaning to lives that they think fundamentally don't have any 81 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 4: And so yeah, it's fierce right. They believe in it. 82 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 4: They believe in it as bringing meaning to their lives. 83 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 4: And that means they won't lightly reform. Now why are 84 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 4: they not? Is it not inevitable? Well, first of all, 85 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 4: it won't work. It can't work. A human being is 86 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 4: a thing. I was just in there watching Charlie's children 87 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 4: eat their breakfast, and what delightful kids. Charlie married above himself, 88 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 4: and he was the heck of a guy. Still he 89 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 4: managed to do that. So that's nature, right. She mourns 90 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 4: her husband, and she loves those kids. And the energy 91 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 4: it takes to raise those kids, that's nature. Actually, the 92 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,239 Speaker 4: word nature comes from a Latin word that means birth 93 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 4: that cannot go away except toward destruction. So and in America, 94 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 4: in Virginia, I mean, first of all, who lives in 95 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 4: northern Virginia and what do they do for a living? 96 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 5: And so just. 97 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 4: Remember, gradually and over a long time, this kind of 98 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 4: thing has been deeply entrenched in the American government. And 99 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 4: there's an effort. When Donald Trump says drain the swamp, 100 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 4: he says something revolutionary he's talking about. I even think 101 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 4: he knows it, but it certainly is what it means. 102 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 4: He's talking about returning to a form of government that 103 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 4: is more limited, that is more local, and that places 104 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 4: responsibility in individual hands and community hands. That's if you 105 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 4: just take a snapshot of the government of the United 106 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 4: States anytime before nineteen thirty and compare it to a 107 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 4: snapshot today you will see that the government is much 108 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 4: larger as a percentage of the economy. It's gone since 109 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 4: nineteen thirty it's gone from twelve percent to fifty one percent, 110 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 4: and it is much more centralized. The federal government has gone. 111 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 4: Of that twelve percent, the federal government was about twenty 112 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 4: three percent. Now of the fifty one percent, it's about 113 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 4: sixty three percent. And then it passes money down. Right, 114 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 4: So we have a sin uturalized form employing millions of 115 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 4: people with interest and groups wedded to it, including lots 116 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 4: of economic interest, but all kinds of interest, and it 117 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 4: gets its moral energy from this thing. We can recreate 118 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 4: the world, I mean the family. I just talked about 119 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 4: Charlie's children, and you just talked about a bill that 120 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 4: sex is not natural. It's what it says. But come 121 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 4: to find out, every living person comes from that process, 122 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 4: and it took two Now pretty soon, I wouldn't be 123 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 4: surprised if we don't get the ability to manufacture people, 124 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 4: then we will further look at people as manufactured items 125 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 4: instead of creatures that blessed with divine reason. So yeah, 126 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 4: that's where it's going. And that and because it won't work, 127 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 4: I mean, you gotta that hideous strength mentioned a minute ago, right. 128 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 6: It was one of the four books I read it over. 129 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 6: Christ is the only one I had that thing. 130 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 4: And it'll see s Lewis. It will frighten you to 131 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 4: death because it just shows that this effort, I mean, 132 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 4: what is distinctive about it? Off Hitler. He's the first 133 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 4: person to build a modern factory for the slaughter and 134 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 4: processing of human beings and a transportation system to go 135 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 4: with it. Nobody ever did that before. Why would he 136 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 4: do that? He wanted to perfect the world according to 137 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 4: his will? And you know, we know, and Christians know, 138 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 4: but read the classic books they know too, the Pagan 139 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 4: ones included Heaven is not on this earth, and if 140 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 4: you try to make it so, you'll turn it into hell. 141 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 4: So yeah, that's what the fight is about. And it's 142 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 4: it's a fundamental fight. It's like I've been saying this 143 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 4: for years and I believe it right now. The great 144 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 4: crises in American history of the Revolutionary War won by 145 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,719 Speaker 4: the skin of our teeth and the Civil War won 146 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 4: by the skin of our teeth, and this one. And 147 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 4: we don't know how it's going to come out. But 148 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 4: the reason I think that is because the decorative independence 149 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:39,479 Speaker 4: presents a view of nature that is universal and eternal 150 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 4: and says that we have our rights under that never 151 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 4: rightly to be taken away, and that's a fixity, right, 152 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 4: and it gives rise to a constitution. Those are the 153 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 4: two things we're arguing about today, and those are characteristic 154 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 4: two things we argue about in every fundamental controversy. 155 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 3: So you're juxtaposing Hegel's diale with sort of a natural 156 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 3: law creator, right, right, So, and I love that because 157 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 3: I think the Europeans are really into Hegel and the 158 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 3: American way is really into the you know, the Constitution 159 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 3: and the Declaration of Independence, aristytle yes, and basically having 160 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 3: this collision of philosophies that underlies these geopolitical arguments tariffs, China, sexes. 161 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 3: It's well said, doctor. I'm not surprised President Trump walked 162 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 3: into a catch twenty two when taking office, do nothing 163 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 3: in America would be staring at a ticking debt bomb, 164 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 3: the kind of crisis that could cripple our future. Instead, 165 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 3: he's taken action with strong policies to slow the train 166 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 3: and buy some time. But the effects of past administration 167 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 3: spending are still working through the system. And experts predict 168 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 3: dramatic price increases and market uncertainty Trump is doing. 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You feared, or at least proposed, that one 184 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 3: of the most logical outcomes was that Europe was going 185 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 3: to go with China. 186 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 4: Yeah. 187 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, we just set up this dichotomy between Hegel and 188 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 3: the Declaration of Independence, laws of nature, and Nature's God. 189 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 3: America is on one side of that philosophical argument. Europe 190 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 3: seems to be. On the other did that inform that 191 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 3: thought or was it more of a service level, their 192 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 3: de industrialization, their lack of military might no, and are 193 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 3: what are the implications? 194 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 4: Well, China is a top down society. It's a heavily 195 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 4: modified form of Marxism, you know, marks with Chinese characteristics. 196 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 4: They've always said what it is is despotism, and that 197 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 4: means the party decides and people obey. They're very clever 198 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 4: at it. They've liberated it enough so they can grow 199 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 4: and produce, and they they you know, they teat talk 200 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 4: about education. What you learn in Chinese schools. First of all, 201 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 4: you learn a lot, they're very competitive. But the second 202 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,599 Speaker 4: thing you learn is the Chinese people have been afflicted 203 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 4: by the West. We're the great victim people, and so 204 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 4: they grow up thinking that a little bit like the 205 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 4: way children learned in Germany for a long time in Europe, 206 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 4: and the people seem a little too ready to put 207 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 4: up with a lot out of their government. But on 208 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 4: the other hand, tens of millions of them have been 209 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 4: killed by the government, and so they got reasons, and 210 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 4: they make a pretty good living these days, better than 211 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 4: they used to. So that's China and it's thriving. Well, 212 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 4: what is the European Union? Is it real accountability of 213 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 4: the government to the people. They have enormous powers, but 214 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 4: people are elected from all those many countries to run 215 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 4: a parliament, and people don't go and vote in those 216 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 4: elections because they don't really feel part of it. And so, 217 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 4: I mean, there's a guy named Daniel Hannan who is 218 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 4: a very good member of the European Parliament, and Nigel 219 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 4: Faraj was a member for a while too, and just 220 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 4: read them, read their speeches there about how this is 221 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 4: not really a sensible a sense, a system of accountability 222 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 4: to the people. And remember there isn't a people. There 223 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 4: are many peoples and they don't speak the same language. 224 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 4: And so it's this bureaucratic state with this tissue of 225 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 4: legislature to control it that doesn't really control it. And 226 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 4: so what's not to like about China to that bunch 227 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 4: of people. And I've thought that for years. And you know, 228 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 4: my wife is English and we follow the English news 229 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 4: and grieve over it a lot lately. And you know, 230 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 4: they're gonna censor the Internet and they're gonna you know, 231 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 4: they're doing all. 232 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 3: That stuff placement, immigration, Yeah, and they don't. 233 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 4: And I think they think they can manage all that 234 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 4: they don't. China seems to me highly competent in important ways. 235 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 4: I mean, they got a bigger navy than we got, 236 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 4: in their building ships much faster. And see, part of 237 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 4: this thing about Europe flirting with them is China in 238 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 4: some direct measures of power is waxing. We don't know 239 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 4: how good their military is. It hasn't been tested, but 240 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 4: it's big and only a fool would not take it seriously. 241 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 4: And so yeah, I had a Hungarian minister I won't 242 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 4: say his name, good guy, very good guy, and he's hungry. 243 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 4: You know, it's got a good government by my lights, Orban, 244 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 4: and he was in Orban's cabinet at the time, and 245 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 4: he gave a talk about how the Opinion Union was 246 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 4: dangerous to Hungry and to the world, and it seemed 247 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 4: true to me to talk. And then I'm talking to 248 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 4: him later and I said, I understand that you have 249 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 4: welcomed the Belt and Road of China into Hungary. He said, oh, yeah, 250 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 4: we had to. And I said why. He said, Poland 251 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 4: has it and won't share. And we're an elected government 252 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 4: and we need prosperity, and we got a trade and 253 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 4: who is around for us to trade with. There's the 254 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 4: European Union of which we're part and which finds US 255 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 4: a million dollars a week, i think, or a day 256 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 4: for our immigration policies. And there's Russia. We have a 257 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 4: lot of experience with Russia. We don't really trust them. 258 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 4: So China is this third more distant party. And this 259 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 4: guy who's got no sympathy whatsoever with Communism thinks it's 260 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 4: an achievement to get the Belt and Road in Hungary 261 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 4: as it is in Poland. Well it'll be in France. 262 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,479 Speaker 4: France has not had any growth to speak of forever, 263 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 4: and it's a very and you know, the the more 264 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 4: conservative parties, which are all called alt right, are waxing 265 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 4: in France. But are the people really going to get 266 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 4: to choose Ah, that's a question. So yeah, it's a 267 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 4: it's a very dangerous picture. And you know, back at home, 268 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 4: there might be some limit to the energy of Donald Trump, 269 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 4: but we haven't found it yet. And then on the 270 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 4: other hand, he's got three years and typically presidents are 271 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 4: weaker after the midterms. Although he's a freak of freak 272 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 4: and a force of nature, he might not be never 273 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 4: know what he's going to do, and you know, it 274 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 4: could be that, you know, and what the hope is 275 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 4: and what the expectation is, by the way in the 276 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 4: official press is he's uh peaking right now and it'll 277 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 4: be downhill from here and who can do what he did. 278 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 4: Once we get rid of him, we'll be in control again. 279 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 5: Mhm. 280 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 4: That's their thinking. They're they're confident and that this this 281 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 4: thing in Virginia is not surprising. They're going to make hey, 282 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 4: while the sun shines, and they expect it to keep shining, 283 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 4: and yeah, and that means that what that means. But see, 284 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 4: I don't you know, it's a very good idea to 285 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 4: study Winston Churchill, because you'll be quick to see that 286 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 4: it might be a desperate situation and quick to see 287 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 4: that's why we're here, let's. 288 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 6: Do something about it, and unfortunately, maybe quick to see 289 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 6: that even the most heroic figure, there's no permanent wins 290 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 6: and there's no permanent defeats. So Winston Churchill did save 291 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 6: Britain by we have to cover Britain all the time 292 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 6: now and there's a new problem where I don't think 293 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 6: I don't think Churchill would have ever thought that Islam 294 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 6: taking over Britain was a likely future for his country. 295 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 6: Yet there are people who fought in that war who 296 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 6: now have to see that happening. 297 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 4: Well, my wife's father was uh, he left Dunkirk Beach 298 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 4: last day anybody did. Then he was in Singapore and 299 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 4: he was captured by the Japanese and became a pow 300 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 4: of the Japanese. He was camp commander. 301 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 5: That's a brutal for sure, you know. 302 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 4: And his father before him fought in all the battles 303 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 4: of the Somme in the First World War. Those are 304 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 4: people who sacrificed, right. But here's here's something for us 305 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 4: all to know. You know, like Charlie Kirk believed in babies, 306 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,239 Speaker 4: and I do too. Gotta have some babies, Gotta get 307 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 4: married and have some babies, because now you're meeting the 308 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 4: test of life right fully, because everybody has to meet 309 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,719 Speaker 4: the test of making living, trying to live well. But 310 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 4: then they gotta do it with some of the But 311 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 4: here's a lesson that comes from that. We have to 312 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 4: do what we can do to prepare the world for 313 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 4: the next generation, but we don't get to live for them, 314 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 4: you see. We like the institutions of America they are made. 315 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 4: Here's a great story. Thomas Jefferson, who you know, was 316 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 4: a very great man and also once in a while 317 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 4: kind of a dean bat. He writes a letter to 318 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 4: James Madison, his friend, close colleague, and says Madison is 319 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 4: getting ready to help write the constitution of what became 320 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 4: the Constitution of the United States. And Jefferson writes and 321 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 4: says that every contract and every law, including this constitution 322 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 4: you're writing, should sunset every human generation every thirty three years. 323 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 4: The earth belongs to the living, he says. And Madison 324 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 4: writes him back and says, you know it actually is 325 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 4: a specific function of the Constitution two set up an 326 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 4: institution that prevails across generations. And Jefferson did what he 327 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 4: commonly did. He Robank said, Yeah, I guess you're right. 328 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 4: But the truth is we should. First of all, we 329 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 4: need to preserve our institutions. They're the longest surviving written 330 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 4: constitution in all of human history, and it has worked. 331 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 4: We have to restore it. And the list of things 332 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 4: to do is simple. First of all, the word decentralized 333 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 4: is crucial to everything that needs to be done. To 334 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 4: the government. We need to return power as close to 335 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 4: the people as possible, and then the federal government should 336 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 4: be in supreme control of things that are simply national. 337 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 4: Congress should start making the laws again. Now they make 338 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 4: about ten or fifteen percent of them, and the rest 339 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 4: are made in the bureaucracy. 340 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 5: Or by executive order. 341 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 6: That's really I think the big secret with when President 342 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 6: Trump demands getting rid of the filibuster, it's that it's 343 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 6: practically a call to say, Congress reel again, yeah, because 344 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 6: it's so fake, because they can't pass anything with sixty. 345 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 4: Votes and see the filibuster. I actually support the filibuster. 346 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 4: Just return to what it in fact is. What it 347 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 4: was was an argument, was a policy in the Senate 348 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:20,239 Speaker 4: only that if you've got something pertinent to say, we 349 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 4: don't vote till everybody said it. That means you got 350 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 4: to be on the floor talking and it's got to 351 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 4: be pertinent. 352 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 5: This has been an absolute treat. Dr Arn Thank you. 353 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 3: I would love for you to but I really I'm 354 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 3: hanging on every word here about getting us back to 355 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 3: what Congress is supposed to be. 356 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 5: So I want to let you finish your thought here. 357 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, the laws are not Mike, Senator Lee, about 358 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 4: your mind from Utah keeps cabinet and it's about this wide, 359 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 4: and it's you know, four and a half feet tall, 360 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 4: and it's got three bays. And what it's full of 361 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 4: is the laws passed in the last two year Congress. 362 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 4: And that means more pages than anyone will ever read. 363 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 4: No one has ever read it all, no one ever will. Well, 364 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 4: eighty five percent of those laws are made in the bureaucracy, 365 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 4: and that's why the government can be so big and 366 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 4: intrude into so much. So one of the things we've 367 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 4: got to do is reform that. And that's a big job, 368 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 4: and we have to win a series of elections committed 369 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 4: to the doing of that. And it doesn't mean that 370 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 4: the regulations have to go away. There's not so many 371 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 4: and not so federal. It doesn't mean that the you know, 372 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 4: first of all, the infrastructure of America is in a 373 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 4: bad way, and the government has never been bigger. What's 374 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 4: to spend the money on? And so you know, we 375 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 4: have to They're just worlds to conquer. We are the 376 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 4: people who have a pattern. We had success doing this. 377 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 4: And I'll just say one last thought. The American people 378 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 4: came across an ocean half known where they were going 379 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 4: knowing next to nothing about it. They established the first 380 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 4: free and representative government in human history, and they settled 381 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 4: an entire continent, by the way, the extent of which 382 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 4: they didn't know for thirty years after the country was founded, 383 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 4: and they extended that kind of government all the way across. 384 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 4: There's never been anything like that. It's wonderful and so 385 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 4: we should fight for it. 386 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 3: And we have a two hundred and fifty year birthday 387 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 3: that you are taking part in directly. You're consulting the Commission, 388 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 3: and you guys have videos you're doing with the White House. 389 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 3: I meant to get into more of that, but we 390 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 3: went into some deep waters. But I think there was 391 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 3: so important, Doctor arn especially setting up that first piece 392 00:24:55,240 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 3: of what makes America's philosophical starting point so distinct from 393 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 3: the European starting point and how that still plays out 394 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 3: in our geopolitics and in our trade and immigration. I 395 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 3: think that was really important, Dr Arren, I really do, 396 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 3: and I hope people listen to that. And one other 397 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 3: thing I'm you know I learned from Hillsdale, and this 398 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 3: is from the Constitution course, is that our system intentionally 399 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 3: sets up power to be spread out over geography and 400 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 3: over time, and so we have to win more elections. 401 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 3: We have to string some wins together if we're gonna 402 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 3: get real reform. But doctor larry On, you are a treasurer, 403 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 3: national treasurer, a dear friend. Go to Charlie four Hillsdale 404 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 3: dot com if you want to hear more and learn 405 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 3: more and learn the classics. 406 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 5: Learn from Hillsdale. 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It's great to have you, and congratulations 441 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 3: on your new book. 442 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 2: Oh great, thank you. 443 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 8: It's great to be with you guys, and I mean, 444 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 8: I don't know, you're putting me in a bind here 445 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 8: following Larry arn that that's going to be really hard 446 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 8: to to that standard. 447 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 3: But I tried to have you on yesterday. We had 448 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,679 Speaker 3: some sort of scheduling faux pa. 449 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 5: I thought it was abu. Anyway, it doesn't matter. 450 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 3: We're glad to have you here. You are one of 451 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 3: the great researchers. You're so good at getting a thread 452 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 3: pulling on it and then it it reveals this huge 453 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 3: scandalous truth. I saw that it went. It went viral 454 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 3: on the internet over the weekend. Breitbart had a big 455 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 3: piece on it, and you know, you highlighted the fact 456 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 3: that we have potentially a million million point five CCP citizens, 457 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 3: so Chinese citizens that are going to be eligible to 458 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 3: vote in twenty two thirty and beyond. Tell us about this. 459 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, we've been having this necessary conversation about 460 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 8: immigration policy in America, but we really look at it 461 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 8: primarily through the lens of the economy, crime on our streets, 462 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 8: et cetera. 463 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 2: And that's very, very important. 464 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 8: This book is about the weaponization of migration and how 465 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 8: foreign governments and adversaries have weaponized our immigration system and 466 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 8: what you're referring to is, in the case of China, 467 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 8: how they are using so called birthright citizenship, and they've 468 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,920 Speaker 8: created a model on an industrial scale to I argue, 469 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 8: subvert the country. 470 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 2: So what do I mean, Well, birthright citizenship, of course, is. 471 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 8: The idea that if you are born in the United States, 472 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 8: you get automatic citizenship. Doesn't matter if your parents walked 473 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 8: across the border, if your parents were here on vacation, 474 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 8: you get birth here. 475 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 2: You're an American citizen. 476 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 8: Our federal government has absolutely no idea how many people 477 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 8: do this every year, because when you get a birth 478 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 8: certificate in the United States, they don't ask for the 479 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 8: citizenship of the parents. They don't have any of that information. 480 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 8: So we literally have no clue how much this has 481 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 8: been happening in the country. 482 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 2: What I point out is that the Chinese do. 483 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 8: The Chinese have actually tracked and have pretty strong estimates 484 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 8: on how many Chinese nationals have done this in the 485 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 8: United States, and the number, at least to me, is 486 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 8: absolutely shocking. The Chinese government says over the last thirteen years, 487 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 8: roughly one hundred thousand Chinese nationals have done this a year. 488 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 8: Over the course of the last thirteen years, so you're 489 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 8: talking about a million, more than a million people, So 490 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 8: what does that mean. That means that you have a 491 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 8: million people in China that were born here. Their parents 492 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 8: flew here for the purposes of giving birth. The child 493 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 8: is born here, they're given citizenship. They fly them back 494 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 8: to China where they are raised in CCP schools. They 495 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 8: get government propaganda there. Parents are primarily from. 496 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 2: The Chinese elite. 497 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 8: But when they turn eighteen, they're going to be able 498 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 8: to vote, they're going to be able to donate to 499 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 8: political campaigns, they're going to be able to get government jobs. 500 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 8: It's a massive, massive national security problem, and the Chinese government. 501 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 2: Has encouraged this and pushed it. 502 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 8: They've run articles in the People's Daily, which is their 503 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 8: major newspaper, telling members of the Chinese elite, you can 504 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 8: do this, you have a right to do this, and 505 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 8: we are completely oblivious that this is. 506 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 2: Going on, Peter. 507 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 6: So they've run these ads, Yeah, these advertisements basically in 508 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 6: the People's Daily about it. Do we see any evidence 509 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 6: of them building up any plan, for example, to encourage 510 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 6: them to using this in a strategic way, like, for example, 511 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 6: deploying these Chinese citizens in specific states to swing specific 512 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 6: elections or are they just are they sort of passively 513 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 6: encouraging this, or are they seeing the direct uses of 514 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 6: individual of these voter blobs in specific elections. 515 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 2: No, that's a great question. 516 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 8: So they've run ads in People's Daily, But the People 517 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 8: Daily has also run newspaper articles I quote from them 518 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 8: in the Invisible Coup, where the Chinese government says, you 519 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 8: have a right to do this, we encourage you to 520 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 8: do this. You also have this large industry that the 521 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 8: Chinese government allows to operate, whereby there are agencies, primarily 522 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 8: in California, that say to CCP officials, pay US fifty 523 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 8: thousand dollars, we'll teach you how to get into the 524 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 8: United States. We will set you up at a nice 525 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 8: place to stay, we'll set up a hospital, your child 526 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 8: will be born, we make sure that they get the citizenship, 527 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 8: and then we'll arrange for you to fly back. 528 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 2: So it's a massive industry. They did this. 529 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 8: For a while in Hong Kong in the early two thousands. 530 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 8: Hong Kong obviously smaller than the United States. The government 531 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 8: of Hong Kong at that time was more independent. 532 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 2: They stopped it. 533 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 8: They realized what was going on, and they stopped it 534 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 8: and said no more birthright citizenship from mainland China. So 535 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 8: the wave of this is going to start hitting in 536 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 8: twenty twenty eight, twenty thirty, so that's when we're first 537 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 8: going to see this instituted. And there's another side of this, guys. 538 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 8: There's the Chinese nationals that fly here, give birth and 539 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 8: get citizenship. 540 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 2: That way, there's the. 541 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 8: Added problem and this really sounds like out of science fiction, 542 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 8: but it's true, involving surrogacy, and these are Chinese nationals 543 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 8: men who donate their sperm. 544 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 2: They find a carrier. 545 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 8: As they call it, a woman in the United States 546 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 8: to conceive the child, carry the child. Then that child 547 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 8: is taken back to China, where again they've got US citizenship. 548 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 8: In this case, they're born to an American mother, but 549 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 8: they are raised by the father and or parents back 550 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 8: in China. 551 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 2: Again, we have no idea how often this takes place. 552 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 8: What we do know is based on our research that 553 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 8: in southern California alone, there are one hundred and seven 554 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 8: Chinese own some surrogacy companies that are doing this, So 555 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 8: you can imagine the scale that we might be dealing 556 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 8: with here. 557 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 6: In fact, I want to repeat one of these facts 558 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 6: because I think people might underestimate how this is. There's 559 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 6: a shoe bo is one of these Chinese billionaires. He is, 560 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 6: I think it's a mobile gaming company that he created. 561 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 6: He is reported to have more than one hundred biological 562 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 6: children born through these surrogates. According to the Wall This 563 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 6: is the Wall Street Journal. He supposedly seeks to have 564 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 6: one at least fifty high quality sons who can take 565 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 6: over business, his businesses and I guess American businesses as well. 566 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 6: There's there's a certain kind of insane maximalism you can 567 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 6: see with some of these Chinese billionaires dozens hundreds of kids. 568 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 3: It's interesting, too, Peter, because I was just following somebody 569 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 3: who who researches fertility rates, and actually China's fertility rate 570 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 3: is collapsing, which is a fascinating parallel story that's going 571 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 3: on here. This particular researcher puts it at about point 572 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,479 Speaker 3: nine to three per couple, which is far far below 573 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 3: replacement level. Obviously, they're having as many children in China 574 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 3: as they were in seventeen seventy six. That was sort 575 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 3: of the big headline from So you got to go 576 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 3: back hundreds of years to get this level of fertility 577 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,240 Speaker 3: which is collapsing. It's collapsing around the world, but especially 578 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 3: in China. So it's interesting that simultaneous with that you 579 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 3: have this move of birth tourism to create US citizen 580 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 3: Chinese CCP trained US citizens. So it's just, yeah, I 581 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 3: don't know what to make of that exactly, but it 582 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 3: is a fascinating detail. 583 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 8: Now, that's a great, great point, and it relates to 584 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 8: the decision of the Chinese government made to have this 585 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:45,359 Speaker 8: One China policy, which they finally lifted just about ten 586 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 8: years ago. It was enacted in nineteen eighty and it 587 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 8: basically said they were fearful of over population, so they 588 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 8: told people in China, you can only have one child 589 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 8: because we need to limit population growth in China. Well, 590 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 8: if you tell a large, usually rural peasant community, they 591 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 8: can only have one child, they want to have a boy. 592 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 8: They want a strong boy who can do all the 593 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 8: farm work. So what has happened in China is you 594 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 8: have this massive demographic disparity where you have literally several 595 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 8: hundred million men between the age of you know, say, 596 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 8: thirty and forty five that have no prospects of finding 597 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 8: a Chinese woman because they were all aborted with this 598 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 8: one child policy. So the surrogacy program and the program 599 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 8: of you know, finding an American carrier a woman to 600 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 8: carry your child, get citizenship for them, bring them back 601 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,320 Speaker 8: to China. And then, by the way, when your child 602 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 8: who's a US citizen turns eighteen, they can get you 603 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,720 Speaker 8: as the parent permanent residence status. So there's that added benefit. 604 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,760 Speaker 8: But the bottom line is this is a direct consequences 605 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 8: of the policies that they carried out with the One 606 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 8: China policy. 607 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,439 Speaker 2: And what's troubling you is what do you do with a. 608 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 8: Situation like a country like China that is having these 609 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 8: demographic problems, which may have economic problems in the future, 610 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 8: that is creating this large reservoir of people living in 611 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 8: their own country who can vote in American elections, that 612 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 8: could be subject to coercion, threats, etc. It's an enormous 613 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 8: problem that we have not even paid attention to. 614 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 2: That's one of the reasons I wrote the book. 615 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 3: Well, you know, it kind of begs the question because 616 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 3: we're going to be doing oral arguments on the birthright 617 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 3: citizenship case in front of the Supreme Court. That's going 618 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 3: to be happening in it sounds like spring so April timeframe, 619 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 3: and then you probably a decision in summer. But then 620 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 3: it if you know that the system is being rigged, 621 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 3: it's being manipulated by Chinese birth tourist or maybe other 622 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 3: countries are involved. 623 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 5: I'm certain that's true. 624 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 3: You know, do you think of the anchor baby phenomenon 625 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 3: as usually a Latin American thing? But listen, if you 626 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 3: know that the system is being rigged, and you should 627 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,879 Speaker 3: be able to block the naturalization of some of these 628 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,280 Speaker 3: people or reverse it, denaturalize and deport. 629 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 5: Whether or not we have the. 630 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 3: Political will or the political fortitude to do those things, 631 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 3: it certainly seems like a logical next step the invisible coup, 632 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,799 Speaker 3: and it's a it's fantabicion. If there's so many insights here, 633 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,879 Speaker 3: I think, you know, we're just touching it on one 634 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 3: element of it. But at the subtitle is how American 635 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 3: elites and form powers use immigration as a weapon. But 636 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 3: now we have this, this whole China angle, Peter Schweitzer, 637 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 3: and we've got we have a clip from Ursula that 638 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,600 Speaker 3: would probably be worth worth playing here. I just love 639 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 3: saying the name Ursula. It is okay, so this is too. 640 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 3: Ninety eight from Ursula vonder Land at Davos ninety eight. 641 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 9: Nineteen seventy one was the year of the so called 642 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 9: Nixon Shock and the decision to dealing the US dollar 643 00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 9: from gold in an instant. The foundations of the Breton 644 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 9: Wood system and the entire global economic order set up 645 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 9: after the war effectively collapsed. But it also had two 646 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:18,839 Speaker 9: major effects. It inadvertently created the conditions for what would 647 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:23,359 Speaker 9: become a truly global order. The seismic change we are 648 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:28,319 Speaker 9: going through today is an opportun tunity, in fact, a 649 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,360 Speaker 9: necessity to build a new form of Europe. 650 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 3: It kind of got cut off there, but a new 651 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 3: form of Europe. And then you have mccron welcoming Chinese 652 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:43,919 Speaker 3: direct investment. We had doctor Larry arn On before you, 653 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,439 Speaker 3: and he said he's long predicted that Europe would would 654 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 3: run to China the second that we called the billdu 655 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 3: on some of their free loading. 656 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 5: What is your want? 657 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 3: You've studied China and the way that they do institutional capture, 658 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 3: the way they use economic warfare to insinuate themselves, whether 659 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 3: that be into mineral deposits and rare earth minerals, minds ports. 660 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:14,240 Speaker 3: What is your your warning or your note to Europe 661 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 3: as they consider as they're flirting with the CCP. 662 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,359 Speaker 8: Here, well, I think in my mind the key word 663 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 8: is flirting. 664 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:22,839 Speaker 2: They may go down this path, but. 665 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 8: I think it's going to be an enormous mistake because 666 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,320 Speaker 8: they're going to find if they don't like Donald Trump 667 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 8: needling them about not carrying their weight, wait until Jijingping 668 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 8: or a Chinese leader is mad to them about some 669 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,319 Speaker 8: trade policy or some issue that they're carrying out, or 670 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 8: or there are too many vocal anti China protests taking 671 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 8: place in Berlin and China wants them to halt. But 672 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 8: what you're seeing is this global battle taking place. A 673 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 8: lot of the things that Donald Trump is doing on 674 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 8: the global stage are actually connected to the to the 675 00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 8: China threat. He recognizes, for example, that the fentanyl in 676 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 8: the United States is primarily driven by China, not by 677 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 8: the Mexican drug cartels. As I laid out in a 678 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 8: previous book, the Mexican drug cartels are really the junior 679 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:14,720 Speaker 8: partners here because at every stage in the fentanyl trail, 680 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 8: from the precursor chemicals to when it's sold on our 681 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 8: streets to when the money is laundered by the drug cartels, 682 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 8: that all runs through China. Trump recognizes that he recognized 683 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 8: the importance that Venezuela represented as a outpost for China 684 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 8: to operate in Latin America, and how Venezuela was pressuring 685 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 8: other countries, for example, like Mexico to fall further into 686 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 8: the Chinese orbit. So I think this battle is taking place. 687 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 8: The good news is China is a massive threat. 688 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,839 Speaker 2: They do believe. They are already at war with us. 689 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,279 Speaker 8: They call it disintegration warfare, and they're prepared to do 690 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 8: a whole host of things short of a shooting war 691 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 8: to achieve their objectives. But the futures with the United States, 692 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:03,359 Speaker 8: they have a massive democratic problem. They have made this 693 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:08,919 Speaker 8: sort of market leninism system work where they have kind 694 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 8: of free markets but dictated and controlled by the government. 695 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 8: But that is not going to work in the era 696 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 8: of technological innovation in areas like AI. I'm very confident 697 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 8: if we adopt a program that allows us to work 698 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 8: effectively in this area, we're going to kick their ass. 699 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:26,359 Speaker 2: And they know that. 700 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 8: So they have got to come up with partnerships and 701 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 8: alliances to try to compete with the United States. Europe 702 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 8: I think right now is trying to signal that they 703 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 8: want to stand up the Trump on Greenland and on 704 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,799 Speaker 8: some of these other issues. But I'm pretty confident that 705 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 8: there will be an agreement struck in China will not 706 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,840 Speaker 8: make the gains that they're hoping to make. They're not 707 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,839 Speaker 8: a good partner really for anybody. Anybody that partners with 708 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,719 Speaker 8: China is end up going to end up with economic disparity, 709 00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 8: political manipulation, and attempted control. Not the kind of bargain 710 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 8: that any country wants to make as far as I'm concerned. 711 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're making a deal with the devil. And yeah, 712 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 3: you know, you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes. 713 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 3: I think that's a good example of it. You know 714 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 3: what's an interesting piece of this, Peter, I was reading 715 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,800 Speaker 3: that as Trumpet and the Trump administration has been shutting 716 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 3: down some of these fentanyl flows into the into the 717 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:23,440 Speaker 3: interior of the United States, that that that precursor product 718 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,720 Speaker 3: and that product in general has to find another, uh 719 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:31,319 Speaker 3: place to go. And there's there's now early indications that 720 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 3: a lot of that fentanyl is starting to flow into 721 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,320 Speaker 3: markets in Europe, and so you know, Europe's going to 722 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 3: be confronting the same fentanyl crisis that we've been confronting 723 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 3: as we shut it down here, it's going to find 724 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 3: a home, it's going to find a market. And you know, 725 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,279 Speaker 3: just because you know Trump's on China's rear on that 726 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:48,880 Speaker 3: to get them to stop doesn't mean they're going to 727 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,759 Speaker 3: stop completely. So I don't know if you have any 728 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:52,319 Speaker 3: intel on that. 729 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you're exactly You're right. Look, the bottom line, 730 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 2: what you what people have. 731 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 8: To understand is Jijing paying the President of China. He 732 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,760 Speaker 8: cut his political teeth. His movement to the national political 733 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 8: stage was in Fujian Province, where he was the political leader. 734 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 8: Fujian Province is ground zero for Chinese organized crime. He 735 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 8: and his family and other CCP leaders have deep ties 736 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 8: to Chinese organized crime. These are the criminal networks that 737 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:22,440 Speaker 8: introduced fentanol to the drug cartels and said we can 738 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 8: boost your profits thirty times move away from cocaine and. 739 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 2: Start delivering this stuff. And you are exactly right. 740 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 8: They will shift to other venues if they can't sell 741 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 8: it in the United States because this is part of 742 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 8: the way that the CCP. 743 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,359 Speaker 2: Operates, this alliance they have with Chinese. 744 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:39,840 Speaker 3: Organized and they want to they want to destroy the 745 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 3: West in general. They want they want to destabilize us. 746 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,480 Speaker 3: They're going to poison us and get us addicted to 747 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:48,439 Speaker 3: fentanyl again, The Invisible Coup, Peter Schweitzer, great work, my friend. 748 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,319 Speaker 5: That was That was phenomenal. Thank you so much. 749 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 3: Congratulations, thanks for having me 750 00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,000 Speaker 7: For more on many of these stories and news you 751 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:00,920 Speaker 7: can trust, like Kirk dot com