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Speaker 1: Life Audio.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Tin Rock, thanks for joining me. What's going on?

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 3: Grammy nominated Singer, Songwriter producer ten Rock is our guest today.

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Speaker 3: You are releasing a single in a few days here

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Speaker 3: as we record this. Call my Name yahweh is the

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Speaker 3: name of it. You're also launching a debut album this summer.

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Speaker 3: God is a person. I think that's in July. Many

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Speaker 3: people in our audience know who you are, but for

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Speaker 3: those who don't, You've worked with Rihanna, Jonas Brothers, Julian Michaels,

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Speaker 3: Rene Rap, John Billion, many others. What led you to

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Speaker 3: want to launch your own album and why make it

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Speaker 3: faith centric?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's awesome. That's a great question. So I've been

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Speaker 2: producing music for as long as I can remember, like

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Speaker 2: since I was seven years old. I've been making songs

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Speaker 2: and writing producing on a computer. And I never really

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Speaker 2: wanted to be an artist. It was never in my plans,

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Speaker 2: but I did so because about a year ago from today,

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Speaker 2: I heard the Lord speaks to me. I heard God

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Speaker 2: speak to me, and he commanded me to make this

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Speaker 2: record and to release it as artists. And so after

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Speaker 2: receiving that command, was kind of like all right, God,

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Speaker 2: I guess I have to like do this. And the

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Speaker 2: reason why it's faith based is because I've been saved

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Speaker 2: since I was twelve years old. I've been following Christ,

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Speaker 2: but i've been a believer, and so naturally that is

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Speaker 2: what's sprung out of me.

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Speaker 3: You say that it kind of just God spoke to

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Speaker 3: you and that it's faith based.

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Speaker 2: Naturally.

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Speaker 3: Was there anything going on in your life at the

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Speaker 3: time that that kind.

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Speaker 2: Of sparked this. I mean, were you deep into the word,

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Speaker 2: where you talking to friends?

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Speaker 3: I'm just curious, So what what kind of led leather

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Speaker 3: this moment in your life where this happened.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to be honest, it was completely random. I'm sort

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Speaker 2: of I've always been involved in my local church play

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Speaker 2: Cheese there. I'm the musical director, and so I've done that.

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Speaker 2: I've been going to that church since I was seven

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Speaker 2: or eight years old, and so I was just kind

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Speaker 2: of done on like business goes, just working on other

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Speaker 2: people's stuff, still writing songs daily, and Yeah, one day

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Speaker 2: I was on a trip and I was driving the

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Speaker 2: church van. All the youth were in the back, and

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Speaker 2: my wife was sitting next to me, and I just

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Speaker 2: felt the Lord say I need you to make an album.

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Speaker 2: And funny enough, when I received that command in my mind,

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Speaker 2: I tried to sort of rationalize it, and I started

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Speaker 2: my mind started to go to all the songs that

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Speaker 2: I've written for other people, for other artists, not really

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Speaker 2: Christian per see, just songs I have. And I was like,

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Speaker 2: all right, I guess they could put those together and

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Speaker 2: slap them together, speak them up a little bit, and

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Speaker 2: that's an album really, you know, ten twelve songs. And

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Speaker 2: then God responded to that thought and said, no, I

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Speaker 2: need you to make new songs that are explicit about me,

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Speaker 2: like I want you to say Jesus talk about, like

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Speaker 2: say my name talk about. And so that's why the

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Speaker 2: album is as explicit as it is, because he want

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Speaker 3: Amen of that. Well, one title on the track it

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Speaker 3: caught my attention was one called Celebrity is Dead. I

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Speaker 3: was gonna ask you, Tana Rock, where their messages that

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Speaker 3: you felt God laying them your heart to talk about?

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Speaker 3: And I'm assuming that was one. What's the story there?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I loved that record. The concept from that actually

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Speaker 2: having in that the reason why so many celebrities nowadays,

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Speaker 2: you know, are facing so many internal issues like depression

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Speaker 2: and just issues with identity in general. Is because us

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Speaker 2: as humans, we weren't created to be worshiped. We were

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Speaker 2: never created to be raised or seeing raise. So that

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Speaker 2: entire song is basically declaring that flame a mountaintop, so

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Speaker 2: to speak, and redirecting all of that misdirected worship to God,

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Speaker 2: because when humans are worshiped, it spoils the person being worshiped,

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Speaker 2: and it also spoils the people doing the worshiping. It

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Speaker 3: Amen to that. What are some other I guess themes

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Speaker 3: on the album, some other words that you felt God

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Speaker 3: laying on your heart to sing about, because you previously

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Speaker 3: said that you didn't want this to be just city

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Speaker 3: general Christian album. You wanted to be something unique for sure.

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Speaker 2: I think each song I'm really trying to display the

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Speaker 2: personhood of God. You know, it goes back to the title.

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Speaker 2: But there's a record on there called Call My Name,

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Speaker 2: which is one that you know just came out and

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Speaker 2: in for OMPH season. It says, yeahweh And something I

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Speaker 2: wanted to do on each record was to sort of

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Speaker 2: but God, right, and so that song called My Name. Originally,

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Speaker 2: in its first state, the verses were kind of generic

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Speaker 2: and like it could be applied to like my wife,

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Speaker 2: for you know, a loved one, and that was something

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Speaker 2: I actually didn't want. I wanted to erase that possibility.

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Speaker 2: I was like, you know what, I want this to

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Speaker 2: only be about God. And so I went through each

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Speaker 2: song and then that talks specifically. It's why the verses

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Speaker 2: start with the child, and so it's coming from the

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Speaker 2: Father speaking to his creation, speaking to us. And that's

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Speaker 2: something I tried to do on every self.

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Speaker 3: The title of the album as God as a person.

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Speaker 3: I am assuming you're just saying God is Jesus? Is

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Speaker 3: that the thought there?

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Speaker 2: I love that That is a part of it. That's

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Speaker 2: part of it. It's also the idea that God isn't

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Speaker 2: an inandamant force or energy. You know, a lot of

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Speaker 2: people like to personify the universe and hear a lot

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Speaker 2: of speak of like put it out into the universe

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Speaker 2: and like the universe will hear you and like work

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Speaker 2: for you, and you know, it'll move things for your good.

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Speaker 2: And that's sort of the idea that I'm trying to

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Speaker 2: dispel in a way in that the universe isn't a

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Speaker 2: being in the universe isn't a person, but God is.

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Speaker 2: And Biblically, God has thoughts, he has desires, he has

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Speaker 2: And so the entire album is me trying to serve

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Speaker 2: that theme. And part of that is that Jesus is God,

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Speaker 3: You know, we live in such a dark culture right now,

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Speaker 3: such a negative culture, such a critical culture. Ten right,

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Speaker 3: I'm curious. Do you think that's one reason that maybe

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Speaker 3: God wants you to write this is what's light light

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Speaker 3: out there in the in the world, and to use

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Speaker 3: your talents not just for others but for him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a huge part of it. But

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Speaker 2: something that serves that as well is the sonic of

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Speaker 2: the album. I feel in that whether you believe in Christ,

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Speaker 2: whether whether you believe in God or not, you can

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Speaker 2: listen to this album and just enjoy the music because

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Speaker 2: it's uplifting music. It just sounds good sonically, and the

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Speaker 2: fact that it's about Christ just enhances its goodness. But

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Speaker 2: anybody can enjoy this music.

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Speaker 3: What genre music is this because I'm asking, because you've

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Speaker 3: kind of dabbled at everything. What is this album?

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Speaker 2: B that's great? I would just call it pop. Okay.

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Speaker 2: There are influences of literally every style, like there's you know,

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Speaker 2: there's urban influence. The entire album sort of has an

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Speaker 2: eighties pop kind of twinge eighties rock even, and so

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Speaker 2: I would just call it pop because it kind of

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Speaker 2: veers into a ton of different routes.

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Speaker 3: We need more of that, keep that up. We've kind

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Speaker 3: of gotten too focused on a certain style in the

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Speaker 3: Christian world and we need to branch out and do

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Speaker 3: some other stuff. Let me ask you, as as a musician,

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Speaker 3: what's it like to be in the background and see

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Speaker 3: a song go viral or famous, knowing that you had

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Speaker 3: a role, you played a big hand in it. You're

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Speaker 3: not the front person though. What's that like or is

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Speaker 3: that just part of the music scene because that happens

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Speaker 3: at a concert every time there's a concert. You know,

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Speaker 3: you have a guy to put and get people in

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Speaker 3: the back, right.

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Speaker 2: That is actually, you know, just being in the background.

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Speaker 2: That's one of my favorite things to experience, is because

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Speaker 2: in the studio we get to sort of just throw

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Speaker 2: paint at the wall. And have fun and see what happens.

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Speaker 2: And then of course after that there's the process of

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Speaker 2: and the artist is the vehicle that pushes that product

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Speaker 2: And so that's that's kind of why I never wanted

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Speaker 2: like passing it off to the artists and like all right,

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Speaker 2: olls your thing, you know, and seeing what happens with it.

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Speaker 3: You get to help make it, and you still get

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Speaker 3: to go shop at the local grocery store and not

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Speaker 3: be asked for an autograph.

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Speaker 4: Right, actually, exactly, Actually, tell me as we close here,

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Speaker 4: tell me what you want your fans or fans who

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Speaker 4: are discovering you to take away from this album as

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Speaker 4: they listen to it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think one of the main points of every song,

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Speaker 2: something that exists in every song is that it begins

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Speaker 2: in an emotion, but it doesn't leave you there. And

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Speaker 2: so whether you're experiencing a bad emotion, which nowadays in

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Speaker 2: the world I think everybody is experiencing some sort of hardship,

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Speaker 2: some sort of sadness or depression or anger. Even My

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Speaker 2: hope is that with any one of these songs, you

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Speaker 2: can listen to it and by the end of the

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Speaker 2: song be carried out.

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Speaker 3: Of that emotion and then to that Hey Tendrock, thanks

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Speaker 3: so much, thank you.

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