1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Life Audio. 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 2: Hi there, and welcome to the Praying Christian Women podcast. 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 2: I'm Jamie Hampton, and today I get to be here 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 2: with Jess Wollstenholm, the VP of Education and Research at Minnow, 5 00:00:16,620 --> 00:00:19,590 Speaker 2: which is a children's media company helping kids and families 6 00:00:19,670 --> 00:00:22,630 Speaker 2: experience Jesus every day, and they just happen to be 7 00:00:22,650 --> 00:00:26,090 Speaker 2: our sponsor for today's episode. Jess is the executive producer 8 00:00:26,150 --> 00:00:29,370 Speaker 2: and editor of the Laugh and Grow Bible animated series 9 00:00:29,610 --> 00:00:33,050 Speaker 2: and Bible. And after 25 years in children's ministry, she's 10 00:00:33,110 --> 00:00:36,129 Speaker 2: now developing discipleship content that meets kids where they are 11 00:00:36,229 --> 00:00:39,029 Speaker 2: at every age and stage. And Jess, thank you for 12 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:40,860 Speaker 2: being here. I know we have a lot of listeners 13 00:00:40,900 --> 00:00:44,699 Speaker 2: who are parents, grandparents, spiritual parents who are going to 14 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:48,140 Speaker 2: just really benefit from learning more about Minnow. So thanks 15 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: for joining us. 16 00:00:49,190 --> 00:00:50,930 Speaker 3: Thanks for having me. It's so fun to be here 17 00:00:50,970 --> 00:00:51,670 Speaker 3: with you, Jamie. 18 00:00:52,270 --> 00:00:52,550 Speaker 1: Yeah. 19 00:00:52,710 --> 00:00:55,170 Speaker 2: Well, before we get started, we ask all of our guests, 20 00:00:55,370 --> 00:00:58,310 Speaker 2: what is your favorite prayer closet? So that's an air quote. 21 00:00:58,510 --> 00:01:00,570 Speaker 2: Just anywhere you go to meet with God. 22 00:01:01,090 --> 00:01:04,490 Speaker 3: You know, honestly, my favorite place is my car because 23 00:01:04,569 --> 00:01:08,069 Speaker 3: I have a really long commute to work. And I 24 00:01:08,110 --> 00:01:10,370 Speaker 3: love to listen to worship music. I love to listen 25 00:01:10,390 --> 00:01:12,380 Speaker 3: to books and podcasts and all kinds of things on 26 00:01:12,390 --> 00:01:15,059 Speaker 3: that commute. But more than anything, I love to just pray. 27 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,340 Speaker 3: It's like the best focus time that I have. Nobody's 28 00:01:18,750 --> 00:01:21,929 Speaker 3: interrupting or asking me, you know, for anything. And I can't, 29 00:01:22,110 --> 00:01:24,210 Speaker 3: you know, be tempted to look at a to-do list 30 00:01:24,270 --> 00:01:26,709 Speaker 3: or any of those things. So I love, love my 31 00:01:26,750 --> 00:01:29,670 Speaker 3: drive time. It's like the best time that I have 32 00:01:30,090 --> 00:01:33,890 Speaker 3: talking with God and just, you know, just thanking Him, 33 00:01:33,930 --> 00:01:36,630 Speaker 3: of course, for all of the amazing things that He 34 00:01:36,670 --> 00:01:39,309 Speaker 3: has blessed us with, but also just, you know, really 35 00:01:39,350 --> 00:01:42,569 Speaker 3: petitioning Him for my kids and my family and the 36 00:01:42,610 --> 00:01:44,950 Speaker 3: work that I get to do at Minnow. So that's 37 00:01:45,010 --> 00:01:45,750 Speaker 3: my favorite place. 38 00:01:45,810 --> 00:01:46,350 Speaker 1: It's my car. 39 00:01:46,390 --> 00:01:47,970 Speaker 3: It's a holy place for me. 40 00:01:48,740 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: I love that. I can totally relate. 41 00:01:50,580 --> 00:01:53,190 Speaker 2: And I have older kids now, but when they were little, 42 00:01:53,750 --> 00:01:56,730 Speaker 2: there's something really great about the kids are strapped in. 43 00:01:56,790 --> 00:01:58,250 Speaker 1: You know where they are. They're safe. 44 00:01:58,370 --> 00:02:00,850 Speaker 2: They're not, you know, maybe they're doing their own thing 45 00:02:00,970 --> 00:02:03,210 Speaker 2: in the back seat and you can just do your 46 00:02:03,250 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: thing and pray. And I'm sure our listeners are tired 47 00:02:06,300 --> 00:02:08,700 Speaker 2: of hearing this, but it's a really funny story. When 48 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 2: I was driving one time and I had dropped off 49 00:02:10,860 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 2: our oldest, and I think I only had our second 50 00:02:13,700 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 2: at the time, and he was little and he's in 51 00:02:15,740 --> 00:02:18,419 Speaker 2: a car seat and minding his business. And I started 52 00:02:18,500 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 2: praying out loud, which I love praying out loud. You 53 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,540 Speaker 2: can look a little weird, but you're in your car. 54 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,370 Speaker 2: For all they know, you're on speaker with someone talking 55 00:02:27,410 --> 00:02:29,970 Speaker 2: on the phone. So I just went ahead and I 56 00:02:30,010 --> 00:02:31,750 Speaker 2: didn't think he would really notice. And all of a 57 00:02:31,790 --> 00:02:34,830 Speaker 2: sudden I hear, Mommy, who are you talking to? And 58 00:02:35,530 --> 00:02:38,910 Speaker 2: I was like, well, I took the opportunity to tell 59 00:02:38,970 --> 00:02:40,090 Speaker 2: him I'm talking to God. 60 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,140 Speaker 1: It might seem weird, but you can do it too. 61 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 62 00:02:43,210 --> 00:02:46,620 Speaker 3: That's amazing. What an amazing teaching moment, you know, and 63 00:02:46,940 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 3: modeling moment where he's seeing you do that. And that's 64 00:02:49,980 --> 00:02:52,290 Speaker 3: really cool. He's going to remember that forever. I love it. 65 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,899 Speaker 2: Actually, I need to ask him because it just occurred 66 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:57,910 Speaker 2: to me, like, I have never brought that up with. 67 00:02:57,810 --> 00:02:59,350 Speaker 1: Him since he's gotten older. 68 00:02:59,410 --> 00:03:03,310 Speaker 2: So I'll have to see, you know, if he remembers that. 69 00:03:03,330 --> 00:03:05,169 Speaker 3: If he remembers, yeah. I bet it made an impact. 70 00:03:05,210 --> 00:03:08,619 Speaker 1: That's awesome. So cool. Well, for our. 71 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,380 Speaker 2: Listeners who are not familiar with Minnow, can you just 72 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 2: kind of give us a brief overview? 73 00:03:13,460 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: What is it? And share the heart behind the mission 74 00:03:16,020 --> 00:03:16,380 Speaker 1: of Minnow. 75 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. Minnow is a Christian children's media company. And our vision, 76 00:03:22,620 --> 00:03:25,250 Speaker 3: and we say we exist to help kids and families 77 00:03:25,389 --> 00:03:29,470 Speaker 3: experience Jesus every day on and off screens. So we 78 00:03:29,550 --> 00:03:31,790 Speaker 3: know that screens really aren't going away. And it's a 79 00:03:31,850 --> 00:03:35,060 Speaker 3: big battle for parents. And not that we want to, 80 00:03:35,300 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 3: you know, enable that or, you know, we know that 81 00:03:38,420 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 3: there needs to be a balance, but we also want 82 00:03:41,060 --> 00:03:44,060 Speaker 3: to give parents a way to redeem screens and to 83 00:03:44,140 --> 00:03:47,900 Speaker 3: really use that tool for good. And so Minnow is 84 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 3: a streaming video platform. Think like a Netflix or Disney Plus, 85 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 3: but for Christian kids and families. So we have over 86 00:03:55,680 --> 00:04:00,210 Speaker 3: 200 shows, thousands of episodes. We have classics like VeggieTales 87 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,279 Speaker 3: and things you might've grown up on. but also we're 88 00:04:03,300 --> 00:04:06,310 Speaker 3: developing new original content. So we have the Laugh and 89 00:04:06,330 --> 00:04:09,970 Speaker 3: Grow Bible for Kids series, which I get to be 90 00:04:10,010 --> 00:04:13,810 Speaker 3: the executive producer on. That is an animated series that 91 00:04:13,910 --> 00:04:17,150 Speaker 3: follows the stories in our storybook Bible that we also 92 00:04:17,190 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 3: have published. And we have the Young David series, which 93 00:04:21,779 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 3: is a Disney quality animated series about the life of 94 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,060 Speaker 3: young David. And so we are really just trying to 95 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:32,370 Speaker 3: give Christian Kids and Families, a great place to experience 96 00:04:32,510 --> 00:04:36,610 Speaker 3: stories because kids learn so well through stories. We want 97 00:04:36,670 --> 00:04:40,490 Speaker 3: them to learn the Bible through these stories, to experience Jesus, 98 00:04:40,589 --> 00:04:43,250 Speaker 3: to get to know Him. It can be a really 99 00:04:43,270 --> 00:04:46,530 Speaker 3: great discipleship tool for families because you get to show 100 00:04:46,570 --> 00:04:50,350 Speaker 3: your kids kind of these Bible stories in age-appropriate ways, 101 00:04:51,110 --> 00:04:55,690 Speaker 3: very theologically sound, but age-appropriate ways. And then hopefully that 102 00:04:55,870 --> 00:05:00,810 Speaker 3: sparks some off-screen conversation. So We hope that we're giving 103 00:05:00,870 --> 00:05:03,589 Speaker 3: parents a tool that helps them begin to have these 104 00:05:03,630 --> 00:05:07,510 Speaker 3: conversations with their kids around media that's fun and engaging, 105 00:05:07,570 --> 00:05:11,690 Speaker 3: but also around really important stories of the Bible and 106 00:05:11,710 --> 00:05:15,130 Speaker 3: discipleship concepts and things that can help them grow their faith. 107 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: I love that. 108 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 2: And, you know, it's funny, but I have had some 109 00:05:20,740 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 2: of my most profound realizations about my faith and about 110 00:05:24,339 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 2: the Bible through children's Bible stuff and children's shows or 111 00:05:28,230 --> 00:05:31,669 Speaker 2: through teaching children's ministry. Because I think for some people, 112 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,300 Speaker 2: maybe that's not the case. I just know I grew 113 00:05:34,380 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 2: up in the church. I take a lot of Bible 114 00:05:37,260 --> 00:05:42,540 Speaker 2: stories for granted, forget maybe all of the things involved. 115 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,820 Speaker 2: And I don't know, there's just something about bringing it 116 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 2: back to a kid's level that I think people other 117 00:05:49,140 --> 00:05:51,420 Speaker 2: than kids are gonna really benefit. And like you said, 118 00:05:51,540 --> 00:05:54,140 Speaker 2: if you're afraid that you don't know enough about the 119 00:05:54,180 --> 00:05:56,870 Speaker 2: Bible to have good conversations with your kids, There's no 120 00:05:56,890 --> 00:06:00,409 Speaker 2: better way than to watch a biblically sound show with 121 00:06:00,450 --> 00:06:03,650 Speaker 2: your kid and to kind of as a refresher, or 122 00:06:03,710 --> 00:06:06,490 Speaker 2: maybe you're hearing it for the first time and you're 123 00:06:06,550 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: able to kind of have springboard conversations about it. 124 00:06:10,350 --> 00:06:14,090 Speaker 3: Yeah, we hear that from parents all the time. They say, wow, 125 00:06:14,410 --> 00:06:16,890 Speaker 3: I am so excited what my child is learning through this, 126 00:06:17,180 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 3: but I'm also really excited about what I am learning or, 127 00:06:21,580 --> 00:06:24,099 Speaker 3: you know, seeing the Bible in a new way because 128 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 3: they're You know, there's a reason why Jesus told us 129 00:06:27,460 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 3: to become like little children and to have childlike faith. 130 00:06:31,020 --> 00:06:33,900 Speaker 3: And I think, you know, for some of us, some 131 00:06:33,940 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 3: of the concepts in the Bible are really hard to understand. 132 00:06:36,220 --> 00:06:38,540 Speaker 3: And that's something we actually say over and over again 133 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,430 Speaker 3: in the Laugh and Grow Bible series. We say, you know, 134 00:06:42,670 --> 00:06:45,130 Speaker 3: we have kids that are interacting with the narrator asking 135 00:06:45,170 --> 00:06:48,770 Speaker 3: questions because we really want to model question asking around faith. 136 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,150 Speaker 3: And the narrator says, some things about the Bible are 137 00:06:52,190 --> 00:06:56,050 Speaker 3: hard to understand, even for grownups. And nothing is more 138 00:06:56,130 --> 00:06:58,970 Speaker 3: true than that. And so, you know, if we can 139 00:06:59,050 --> 00:07:02,350 Speaker 3: learn together as a family, I think that's really powerful. 140 00:07:02,950 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. Do you have other. 141 00:07:06,339 --> 00:07:09,620 Speaker 2: So I'll say, other than the project you're working on 142 00:07:09,660 --> 00:07:11,500 Speaker 2: with the Laugh and Grow Bible, do you have a 143 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 2: favorite show on Minnow? 144 00:07:14,660 --> 00:07:18,140 Speaker 3: Well, aside from... The Laughing Girl Bible, which we talked about. 145 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,590 Speaker 3: And I mentioned The Young David because the animation quality 146 00:07:21,650 --> 00:07:24,970 Speaker 3: is absolutely lovely. And that was kind of a prequel 147 00:07:25,010 --> 00:07:27,090 Speaker 3: to the film that came out this past year, The 148 00:07:27,850 --> 00:07:32,170 Speaker 3: David Film. Oh, wow. Yeah, those are linked together. We 149 00:07:32,210 --> 00:07:34,810 Speaker 3: did those episodes as kind of a prequel for the film. 150 00:07:35,750 --> 00:07:38,950 Speaker 3: Other than that, one of my favorites is called God's Greenhouse. 151 00:07:39,130 --> 00:07:42,170 Speaker 3: It's a newer show that we have for preschoolers. And 152 00:07:42,270 --> 00:07:45,700 Speaker 3: so it's kind of our answer to a, you know, 153 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,730 Speaker 3: Miss Rachel, if you're familiar on YouTube, that some kids, 154 00:07:50,030 --> 00:07:52,590 Speaker 3: you know, that became really popular as far as an 155 00:07:52,750 --> 00:07:55,230 Speaker 3: educational show with a live action host where it's a 156 00:07:55,290 --> 00:08:00,580 Speaker 3: young woman. And she is just incredibly talented and loves 157 00:08:00,620 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 3: Jesus and the Word of God so much that we 158 00:08:03,300 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 3: love offering this kind of alternative that will help kids 159 00:08:07,420 --> 00:08:11,380 Speaker 3: to learn, but to learn Bible stories. She covers some 160 00:08:11,550 --> 00:08:14,290 Speaker 3: colors and numbers and things like that. But it's really 161 00:08:14,330 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 3: more about Bible stories and about biblical truths and imagination 162 00:08:18,420 --> 00:08:20,900 Speaker 3: and then songs. You know, each episode has a song, 163 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 3: a preschool song. One thing I love about the God's 164 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 3: Greenhouse show, too, is it's very homegrown. So it's very crafty. 165 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 3: Like a lot of the props and things she uses 166 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 3: are just so sweet and delightful. And she has a 167 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:39,179 Speaker 3: couple of very special stuffies that she uses as puppets, 168 00:08:39,340 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 3: but she kind of uses them like actual stuffies. So 169 00:08:43,130 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 3: it's really helping kids, you know, kind of understand how 170 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 3: to play out maybe the Bible story. So her and 171 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 3: her little stuffies play out the Bible story. And so 172 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 3: we really want to model kids engaging with Bible stories 173 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,620 Speaker 3: in a playful way. And so we've, you know, heard 174 00:08:58,660 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 3: lots of stories from parents of kids that love that show, 175 00:09:02,370 --> 00:09:04,449 Speaker 3: and they're kind of taking their stuffies and they're like 176 00:09:04,650 --> 00:09:06,980 Speaker 3: playing out the Bible story. And so When we can 177 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 3: get kids to engage with the Bible in that way, 178 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,410 Speaker 3: I think it really helps it stick for them. So 179 00:09:13,170 --> 00:09:14,290 Speaker 3: that's one of my favorites. 180 00:09:15,030 --> 00:09:16,370 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting. 181 00:09:16,570 --> 00:09:20,650 Speaker 2: I've noticed as technology has ramped up so much, especially 182 00:09:20,690 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 2: with younger kids, play is falling by the wayside. And 183 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 2: so if they can be consuming content that's modeling that 184 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 2: for them, that's kind of like a double bonus that 185 00:09:33,260 --> 00:09:37,510 Speaker 2: it's positive content. But they're not just sitting there absorbing 186 00:09:37,990 --> 00:09:40,730 Speaker 2: images on a screen. They're seeing like, hey, when you're 187 00:09:40,750 --> 00:09:44,219 Speaker 2: not on your screen, this is kind of modeling play 188 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,500 Speaker 2: and modeling that reinforcement of the Bible stories. 189 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: That's very cool. 190 00:10:02,020 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: Why do you think it's important for parents to be 191 00:10:05,620 --> 00:10:10,390 Speaker 2: intentional about the things their kids are consuming? 192 00:10:10,890 --> 00:10:13,690 Speaker 3: Yeah, I like to think of it, of media as 193 00:10:14,130 --> 00:10:17,850 Speaker 3: like a diet, as nutrition, you know, and what is 194 00:10:17,970 --> 00:10:23,469 Speaker 3: this piece of media, you know, adding to my kids' 195 00:10:23,590 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 3: balanced diet of inputs or of information that they're coming across. 196 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,100 Speaker 3: And I really think it's important to look at that 197 00:10:33,300 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 3: like you would look at their diet because parents are, 198 00:10:36,260 --> 00:10:38,179 Speaker 3: you know, want to make sure you get enough vegetables 199 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:40,780 Speaker 3: and you get enough protein. And yes, you can have 200 00:10:40,820 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 3: some sweets, but, you know, you don't want to have 201 00:10:42,820 --> 00:10:44,660 Speaker 3: more sweets than you have the good stuff. And so 202 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:46,850 Speaker 3: I always like to say that with my kids, too. 203 00:10:47,340 --> 00:10:50,460 Speaker 3: You know, they're older now and they've kind of earned that, 204 00:10:50,660 --> 00:10:53,790 Speaker 3: you know, trust factor. I'm helping them discern what's good 205 00:10:53,830 --> 00:10:57,250 Speaker 3: and what's not good. And so they may choose, you know, 206 00:10:57,270 --> 00:10:59,770 Speaker 3: my son might choose a little more YouTube than I'd like, 207 00:10:59,830 --> 00:11:02,710 Speaker 3: but I will have a conversation to say, hey, let's 208 00:11:02,770 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 3: balance those inputs. Or when they were younger, I did 209 00:11:05,100 --> 00:11:07,300 Speaker 3: this a lot. Hey, let's balance the inputs and make 210 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,410 Speaker 3: sure that there's some goodness mixed in there. Not that 211 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,900 Speaker 3: anything they're watching is horrible or anything like that, but 212 00:11:13,940 --> 00:11:16,180 Speaker 3: it might be more like those sweets, empty calories, right? 213 00:11:16,220 --> 00:11:18,260 Speaker 3: So it's not really do anything. It's brain rot. It's 214 00:11:18,300 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 3: whatever you want to call it. But let's really balance 215 00:11:21,780 --> 00:11:25,380 Speaker 3: that with some really good, rich media. And so it's 216 00:11:25,610 --> 00:11:29,030 Speaker 3: fine to watch super fun, mindless things. Like one of 217 00:11:29,090 --> 00:11:32,449 Speaker 3: our family's favorites when my kids were little was America's 218 00:11:32,470 --> 00:11:35,010 Speaker 3: Funniest Home Videos because we would just laugh and laughter 219 00:11:35,050 --> 00:11:38,110 Speaker 3: is very valuable too. And so that's probably a little 220 00:11:38,130 --> 00:11:41,910 Speaker 3: more valuable than some things. But It's also important to 221 00:11:41,950 --> 00:11:44,550 Speaker 3: kind of add the good stuff, you know, good stories 222 00:11:44,610 --> 00:11:48,590 Speaker 3: with good relationships that are modeling good relationships that they're learning, 223 00:11:48,650 --> 00:11:54,109 Speaker 3: you know, and on Minnow, we have mostly explicitly biblical content, 224 00:11:54,230 --> 00:11:57,430 Speaker 3: Bible stories and things like that. But we also have 225 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 3: a good mix of just educational content that we have 226 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,819 Speaker 3: highly vetted. So letters and numbers and all the other 227 00:12:02,860 --> 00:12:05,550 Speaker 3: good things you want your kids to watch. So You know, 228 00:12:05,670 --> 00:12:08,890 Speaker 3: I look at the Bible as one of those subject areas. 229 00:12:08,929 --> 00:12:11,670 Speaker 3: Like if you're looking at a child's education, you want 230 00:12:12,150 --> 00:12:15,809 Speaker 3: them to have math and science and English in those 231 00:12:15,850 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 3: subject areas. And for us as believers, the Bible is 232 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 3: one of those. And it's just as important, if not 233 00:12:21,620 --> 00:12:24,260 Speaker 3: more important for us, for them to be learning that 234 00:12:24,340 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 3: and understanding it. And so it can be really overwhelming 235 00:12:27,780 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 3: because kids want to watch what their friends are watching 236 00:12:30,580 --> 00:12:32,730 Speaker 3: or what they see or hear about what they see 237 00:12:32,750 --> 00:12:34,350 Speaker 3: at the toy store. They know it's a show. They 238 00:12:34,390 --> 00:12:37,990 Speaker 3: want to watch it. And that's understandable, you know, but 239 00:12:38,050 --> 00:12:42,100 Speaker 3: we want to give them alternatives that not only are 240 00:12:42,179 --> 00:12:44,740 Speaker 3: teaching those good things, but are doing it in a 241 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 3: way that's age appropriate and really fun because they shouldn't 242 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:49,900 Speaker 3: have to settle. We shouldn't say, no, no, you can't 243 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:51,700 Speaker 3: watch that fun thing. You have to watch this boring 244 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,540 Speaker 3: thing instead because it's about the Bible. It should be 245 00:12:54,590 --> 00:12:58,170 Speaker 3: just as good, if not better. And that's what we're, 246 00:12:58,210 --> 00:13:00,150 Speaker 3: that's our mission here at Minnow is to make that 247 00:13:00,210 --> 00:13:03,750 Speaker 3: content just as good or better, actually better because Jesus, 248 00:13:03,770 --> 00:13:05,190 Speaker 3: we always say Jesus deserves better. 249 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:06,540 Speaker 1: That's so good. 250 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,660 Speaker 2: So yeah, because it's not like, I know with a 251 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:14,660 Speaker 2: lot of Christian content, people, whether it's music, whether it's whatever, 252 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 2: I remember back in the day, dating myself, you know, 253 00:13:17,420 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 2: going to find cassette tapes in the record store. And 254 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 2: they would have, if you liked so-and-so, you'll like Lila Paris. 255 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 2: It's like a designer imposter thing. And what I love 256 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,100 Speaker 2: and what I'm seeing in our, you know, a little 257 00:13:31,140 --> 00:13:36,449 Speaker 2: bit more recently in Christian content is, We're not the imposter. 258 00:13:36,650 --> 00:13:39,750 Speaker 1: We're going to set the standard. And I think that's great. 259 00:13:39,820 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 2: And it sounds like that's what you're doing with, you know, 260 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 2: the animation, with the content, with the, you know, everything 261 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:47,260 Speaker 2: with Minnow. 262 00:13:47,380 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: So that's pretty cool. 263 00:13:49,179 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 3: I love that. We don't want it to be the 264 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:54,260 Speaker 3: designer imposter. And what's been amazing for Minnow is once 265 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,500 Speaker 3: we kind of put it out there and we started 266 00:13:56,559 --> 00:14:01,510 Speaker 3: creating originals, you cannot believe how many believers showed up. 267 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,710 Speaker 3: that worked at Disney, that worked at Pixar, that worked 268 00:14:04,750 --> 00:14:08,500 Speaker 3: at these companies that are like, they have that talent, 269 00:14:08,540 --> 00:14:12,090 Speaker 3: they have that experience, the expertise, but they've never been 270 00:14:12,130 --> 00:14:15,390 Speaker 3: able to make things for the kingdom of God. And 271 00:14:15,429 --> 00:14:17,429 Speaker 3: so one of the most exciting things for us at 272 00:14:17,450 --> 00:14:20,690 Speaker 3: Minnow is that we are now giving creatives that know 273 00:14:20,730 --> 00:14:23,430 Speaker 3: Jesus and want to serve Jesus with their gifts an 274 00:14:23,590 --> 00:14:26,470 Speaker 3: outlet to be able to create for the kingdom of God, 275 00:14:26,570 --> 00:14:28,190 Speaker 3: which is super exciting. 276 00:14:28,770 --> 00:14:31,450 Speaker 1: That is so exciting. Wow, that's amazing. 277 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 2: I want to back up and talk about the Laugh 278 00:14:34,460 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 2: and Grow Bible series. So it says that you're the 279 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,050 Speaker 2: producer and editor of the series and Bible. So is 280 00:14:41,070 --> 00:14:44,190 Speaker 2: there a physical Bible that goes along with the series 281 00:14:44,330 --> 00:14:45,470 Speaker 2: that parents can get? 282 00:14:45,630 --> 00:14:47,370 Speaker 1: Okay. Tell us about that too. Yeah. 283 00:14:47,730 --> 00:14:50,850 Speaker 3: There's actually two physical Bibles now. So the original Laugh 284 00:14:50,890 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 3: and Grow Bible for Kids came out several years ago. 285 00:14:53,860 --> 00:14:58,140 Speaker 3: It is a comprehensive overview of the big bible narrative 286 00:14:58,180 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 3: from genesis to revelation really taking the main stories of 287 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,420 Speaker 3: 52 stories we did that purposefully so there's one story 288 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:09,260 Speaker 3: a week for families to engage with or children's ministry 289 00:15:09,300 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 3: leaders too so there's 52 stories from genesis to revelation 290 00:15:13,470 --> 00:15:17,070 Speaker 3: and that covered the big overview and god's big story 291 00:15:17,230 --> 00:15:20,970 Speaker 3: and you know the gospel creation the fall redemption and 292 00:15:21,010 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 3: restoration and But what we found is, oh, and I'll 293 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,070 Speaker 3: back up and say we have animated that entire Bible. 294 00:15:28,150 --> 00:15:30,990 Speaker 3: So we have episodes. Each story in the Bible has 295 00:15:31,030 --> 00:15:33,740 Speaker 3: an episode so that kids can watch it and read it, 296 00:15:33,810 --> 00:15:37,670 Speaker 3: which really reinforces it for them. But what we found 297 00:15:37,810 --> 00:15:39,580 Speaker 3: is we didn't get to go too deep into the 298 00:15:39,620 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 3: Gospels to the stories of Jesus because we were trying 299 00:15:42,180 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 3: to cover the entire Bible. So just last week, our 300 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 3: second Bible called the Laugh and Grow Bible for Kids 301 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,410 Speaker 3: Jesus Stories came out. And it is a deep dive 302 00:15:51,450 --> 00:15:54,370 Speaker 3: into the Gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. So we 303 00:15:54,410 --> 00:15:59,700 Speaker 3: cover parables, miracles, Jesus' life, and His teachings. We really 304 00:15:59,740 --> 00:16:02,500 Speaker 3: focused on His relationships with people and how He loved 305 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 3: people and why He came and what He did for us. 306 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,500 Speaker 3: And so that came out just a week ago. So 307 00:16:09,540 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 3: that's exciting. So now there's two volumes in the Bible 308 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,780 Speaker 3: that really covers it from Genesis to Revelation. And then 309 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 3: we're in the process of animating those Jesus stories now. 310 00:16:19,260 --> 00:16:22,890 Speaker 3: So we have some available already on Minnow. We've never 311 00:16:23,390 --> 00:16:25,930 Speaker 3: released them simultaneously. So that's really fun to be able 312 00:16:25,950 --> 00:16:27,650 Speaker 3: to have the Bible and the episodes out at the 313 00:16:27,690 --> 00:16:28,050 Speaker 3: same time. 314 00:16:28,670 --> 00:16:30,850 Speaker 1: That is so neat. I wish my kids were younger. 315 00:16:31,170 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 3: I know, same. Mine are too old for it now, too. 316 00:16:33,420 --> 00:16:35,260 Speaker 1: Right? That is so neat. 317 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,450 Speaker 3: And I wish it was there. That's why we created it. 318 00:16:37,500 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 3: You know, some of us were like, I wish my 319 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 3: kids had this. And, you know, I had them sit 320 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:44,670 Speaker 3: at the table even when they were into their early 321 00:16:44,710 --> 00:16:48,190 Speaker 3: teen years and read those Bible stories with me. because one, 322 00:16:48,210 --> 00:16:50,500 Speaker 3: they were willing to do it because mom helped make it. 323 00:16:50,590 --> 00:16:53,470 Speaker 3: And so, you know, they were open, but it really 324 00:16:53,740 --> 00:16:57,140 Speaker 3: did help them understand the Bible stories because we take 325 00:16:57,820 --> 00:17:01,100 Speaker 3: great care in making sure we're using the right language. 326 00:17:01,180 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 3: So every story, every script for the Laugh and Grow 327 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:08,830 Speaker 3: Bible and the Jesus stories, we are very careful about 328 00:17:08,850 --> 00:17:10,730 Speaker 3: the language we use. We do not want to water 329 00:17:10,770 --> 00:17:12,510 Speaker 3: down the truth. We do not want to water down 330 00:17:12,530 --> 00:17:16,450 Speaker 3: the gospel. We talk about sin. We talk about needing 331 00:17:16,490 --> 00:17:19,889 Speaker 3: a Savior. We talk about all of the foundations of 332 00:17:20,109 --> 00:17:22,530 Speaker 3: our Christian faith, we just do it in a way 333 00:17:22,690 --> 00:17:26,930 Speaker 3: that really helps kids understand it. So for instance, when 334 00:17:26,970 --> 00:17:29,780 Speaker 3: we define the word sin, a lot of times we 335 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 3: will define the word sin in the church as, you know, 336 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 3: missing the mark. It's when we mess up, you know, 337 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,140 Speaker 3: those kinds of things. And we do say sin separates 338 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 3: us from God, which is all true. But for a 339 00:17:41,859 --> 00:17:45,100 Speaker 3: young child who's a concrete thinker, if you say in 340 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 3: one conversation that sin separates you from God, In the 341 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,260 Speaker 3: next conversation, you say, God is always with you. They 342 00:17:51,300 --> 00:17:54,380 Speaker 3: can't understand. They can't reconcile those two things. And so 343 00:17:55,070 --> 00:17:58,670 Speaker 3: we're not trying to redefine sin. We're trying to use 344 00:17:58,710 --> 00:18:00,710 Speaker 3: language that will meet. 345 00:18:00,570 --> 00:18:01,489 Speaker 1: A child where they are. 346 00:18:02,070 --> 00:18:04,390 Speaker 3: So our definition of sin in the Laugh and Grow 347 00:18:04,410 --> 00:18:06,910 Speaker 3: Bible is sin is when we choose our own way 348 00:18:07,530 --> 00:18:11,169 Speaker 3: instead of God's way. And because we choose our own way, 349 00:18:11,970 --> 00:18:14,460 Speaker 3: we can't be close to God because we turned away 350 00:18:14,500 --> 00:18:17,020 Speaker 3: from him. And so that gives them a little bit 351 00:18:17,060 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 3: more concrete language that helps them understand what sin does 352 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 3: and how it affects our lives without them going, wait 353 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,140 Speaker 3: a second, I thought you said God's always with me, 354 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 3: but now you're saying I'm separated from him. So that's 355 00:18:30,780 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 3: just an example of how we have really tried to 356 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,939 Speaker 3: be purposeful in all the language that we use in 357 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,230 Speaker 3: this series to really make it kid appropriate. 358 00:18:40,850 --> 00:18:43,830 Speaker 2: What would you say are the age ranges that you 359 00:18:43,850 --> 00:18:44,850 Speaker 2: would recommend minnow for? 360 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:45,660 Speaker 1: Yeah. 361 00:18:45,700 --> 00:18:49,420 Speaker 3: So minnows, we say ages two to 10. Um, we 362 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,379 Speaker 3: have a lot of shows for the preschool and what 363 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 3: we call bridge age. So up to age about seven, eight, 364 00:18:55,590 --> 00:18:58,750 Speaker 3: we have, um, more shows and growing on the kind 365 00:18:58,770 --> 00:19:02,650 Speaker 3: of six to nine, six to 10 age range. Um, 366 00:19:02,930 --> 00:19:05,109 Speaker 3: I would, yeah, those are the two main age groups 367 00:19:05,210 --> 00:19:07,869 Speaker 3: because there is a big difference, right. Between a, a 368 00:19:08,450 --> 00:19:14,109 Speaker 3: four-year-old and an eight-year-old. And so, um, although the physical 369 00:19:14,150 --> 00:19:16,389 Speaker 3: Bible says four to eight, and that's kind of a 370 00:19:16,450 --> 00:19:20,070 Speaker 3: traditional Bible storybook age range. And I will say, kids 371 00:19:20,130 --> 00:19:22,350 Speaker 3: on both ends of the spectrum are really engaged with it. 372 00:19:23,230 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 3: The show, because of the animation, skews a little young, 373 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,900 Speaker 3: but then we have shows for core elementary age kids. 374 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,100 Speaker 3: We have a show called Micah, and it's all about 375 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 3: a fifth grade boy and his friends and kind of 376 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,699 Speaker 3: the crazy zany adventures they have in elementary school and 377 00:19:39,780 --> 00:19:43,810 Speaker 3: how really they incorporate their faith into their everyday problems 378 00:19:43,830 --> 00:19:47,150 Speaker 3: that they're dealing with as kids. And it really helps kids, 379 00:19:47,570 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 3: you know, from modeling, hey, how do I walk this 380 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:54,060 Speaker 3: out as a person of faith if I'm dealing with, 381 00:19:54,100 --> 00:19:56,540 Speaker 3: you know, bullies or, you know, getting a bad grade 382 00:19:56,580 --> 00:19:59,460 Speaker 3: on a test or real things that kids are dealing with. 383 00:19:59,550 --> 00:20:03,010 Speaker 3: So we do have specific shows for each age group. 384 00:20:03,690 --> 00:20:04,330 Speaker 1: That's great. 385 00:20:04,470 --> 00:20:07,770 Speaker 2: So in my own faith, I grew up in the church, 386 00:20:07,950 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 2: but There were two different kind of turning points for 387 00:20:11,940 --> 00:20:15,699 Speaker 2: me that helped me move from like, okay, I know 388 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 2: the Bible stories into actually like having a desire to 389 00:20:19,790 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 2: live for the Lord. And one of them was a 390 00:20:22,270 --> 00:20:25,609 Speaker 2: series of books. I can't remember what they were, but 391 00:20:25,650 --> 00:20:27,650 Speaker 2: it was my grandmother had given them. 392 00:20:27,570 --> 00:20:29,170 Speaker 1: To me and it was for kind of tweens. 393 00:20:29,690 --> 00:20:34,689 Speaker 2: And it was illustrating this Christian girl going through her 394 00:20:34,750 --> 00:20:37,990 Speaker 2: daily life, you know, and kind of experiencing the day-to-day things. 395 00:20:38,550 --> 00:20:41,429 Speaker 2: and modeling in the book kind of how she struggled 396 00:20:41,470 --> 00:20:41,830 Speaker 2: with things. 397 00:20:41,890 --> 00:20:43,490 Speaker 1: And then there was another one. 398 00:20:43,630 --> 00:20:45,510 Speaker 2: It was like a see you at the pole book 399 00:20:45,590 --> 00:20:49,649 Speaker 2: that I remember reading that kind of modeled like this 400 00:20:49,730 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 2: group of high school kids who had this desire to 401 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,660 Speaker 2: live out the, you know, live out their faith in 402 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,780 Speaker 2: a secular environment. 403 00:20:59,300 --> 00:21:01,020 Speaker 1: So I could really see that show. 404 00:21:01,060 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 2: Micah sounds like it could be a really powerful tool 405 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,010 Speaker 2: to just, expose kids to like, this is what it 406 00:21:08,030 --> 00:21:08,430 Speaker 2: looks like. 407 00:21:08,750 --> 00:21:10,130 Speaker 1: This is what it could look like for you. 408 00:21:10,230 --> 00:21:12,690 Speaker 2: Even if your life doesn't look like this now, this 409 00:21:12,750 --> 00:21:15,710 Speaker 2: is what it could be if you pursue God, if you, 410 00:21:15,990 --> 00:21:16,780 Speaker 2: you know, so that's. 411 00:21:17,100 --> 00:21:19,860 Speaker 3: Yeah. There's a lot of talk about representation in media 412 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,940 Speaker 3: and we feel like Christian kids need to be represented 413 00:21:24,020 --> 00:21:26,220 Speaker 3: too on screen. They need to see their faith represented 414 00:21:26,270 --> 00:21:29,790 Speaker 3: on screen. They need to see It needs to be normalized, 415 00:21:29,910 --> 00:21:34,580 Speaker 3: you know, for you to be approaching your everyday life through. 416 00:21:34,180 --> 00:21:35,300 Speaker 1: A biblical worldview. 417 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,660 Speaker 3: And so that's one of the things we're really trying 418 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 3: to do for the older kids on Minnow is helping 419 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,510 Speaker 3: them understand, what does it mean to live out my 420 00:21:42,550 --> 00:21:46,129 Speaker 3: faith in the real world? It's very important for kids 421 00:21:46,730 --> 00:22:00,270 Speaker 3: to have that. Yeah. 422 00:22:00,770 --> 00:22:03,050 Speaker 2: Well, I remember being in college watching The Veggie Tales. 423 00:22:03,130 --> 00:22:05,050 Speaker 2: So really, you know, this could be for anybody. 424 00:22:05,070 --> 00:22:05,929 Speaker 1: Well, you're never too old. 425 00:22:05,910 --> 00:22:06,350 Speaker 3: For Veggie Tales. 426 00:22:06,369 --> 00:22:09,020 Speaker 1: That's true. You're never too old for Veggie Tales. That's true. 427 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 3: That's so true. 428 00:22:10,820 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 1: Love it. 429 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:15,859 Speaker 2: Well, for the parent listening who is just thinking, oh, 430 00:22:15,940 --> 00:22:18,500 Speaker 2: this would be great. I'm struggling, which I think we 431 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,300 Speaker 2: all as parents second guess ourselves and think I could 432 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,470 Speaker 2: be doing more to point my kid to the Lord. 433 00:22:24,910 --> 00:22:29,190 Speaker 2: But just don't know exactly other than just putting a 434 00:22:29,230 --> 00:22:32,530 Speaker 2: show in front of them how to like springboard off 435 00:22:32,590 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 2: of a show or a cartoon or a bible story 436 00:22:36,060 --> 00:22:41,260 Speaker 2: or whatever into discipleship one-on-one as a parent kind of 437 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:46,500 Speaker 2: turning that into opportunities for conversations outside of the screens 438 00:22:46,740 --> 00:22:49,690 Speaker 2: can you give us some ideas or kind of paint 439 00:22:49,710 --> 00:22:51,430 Speaker 2: a picture of what that could look like for. 440 00:22:51,350 --> 00:22:55,450 Speaker 3: Parents absolutely yeah uh One of the things that we 441 00:22:55,550 --> 00:22:58,010 Speaker 3: offer with Minnow, and I think this kind of sets 442 00:22:58,070 --> 00:23:01,949 Speaker 3: us apart from other Christian streaming services for kids, is 443 00:23:02,430 --> 00:23:04,970 Speaker 3: we offer a lot of offscreen resources. So that's why 444 00:23:05,010 --> 00:23:07,780 Speaker 3: we have the Bible and the show. We have, Micah 445 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,260 Speaker 3: has books to go along with it that have like 446 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,500 Speaker 3: some discussion questions in it. We want to give parents 447 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,540 Speaker 3: that springboard, like you said, because so many are intimidated 448 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 3: and I get it. Like it can be very intimidating 449 00:23:19,180 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 3: to lead these conversations. If you feel like you're still 450 00:23:21,460 --> 00:23:23,820 Speaker 3: growing in your faith, you're not quite there yet, I 451 00:23:23,820 --> 00:23:26,260 Speaker 3: think we as parents feel like we have to like 452 00:23:26,580 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 3: master something before we can teach our kids. And I 453 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,340 Speaker 3: don't think that that is the truth. I think that 454 00:23:32,380 --> 00:23:35,500 Speaker 3: the truth is, is that God desires for us to 455 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:40,450 Speaker 3: incorporate faith building and faith formation into our everyday lives. 456 00:23:40,970 --> 00:23:45,170 Speaker 3: And he doesn't expect that to be a parent only 457 00:23:45,650 --> 00:23:48,290 Speaker 3: instilling all of their wisdom, although there are times of 458 00:23:48,330 --> 00:23:52,369 Speaker 3: that into their child, but that we're growing together. And 459 00:23:52,450 --> 00:23:56,010 Speaker 3: so as a child, as you wrestle with something, maybe 460 00:23:56,070 --> 00:23:58,090 Speaker 3: allowing your child to see that. Or when your child 461 00:23:58,150 --> 00:24:01,070 Speaker 3: wrestles with something, maybe being able to say, I'm not 462 00:24:01,250 --> 00:24:04,910 Speaker 3: sure how about that. Let's find out together. And just 463 00:24:05,170 --> 00:24:09,750 Speaker 3: acknowledging it's called intellectual humility. There's research out there that 464 00:24:09,830 --> 00:24:14,060 Speaker 3: shows that kids learn better when a teacher or a 465 00:24:14,380 --> 00:24:18,790 Speaker 3: mentor exemplifies intellectual humility. So I want to first say, 466 00:24:18,869 --> 00:24:21,570 Speaker 3: take the pressure off because there's no expectation for you 467 00:24:21,590 --> 00:24:24,350 Speaker 3: to have arrived in order for you to disciple your child. 468 00:24:25,230 --> 00:24:27,810 Speaker 3: But in the moment, Minnow does offer, we do have 469 00:24:27,890 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 3: discussion guides for a lot of our shows that are 470 00:24:30,390 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 3: in our resource center and they're all free. We give 471 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 3: those to our members because we want to give you 472 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 3: that launching off point. We want to give you those questions. 473 00:24:38,100 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 3: At the end of every story in the Laugh and 474 00:24:39,540 --> 00:24:41,700 Speaker 3: Go Bible, there's a couple of questions and a prayer 475 00:24:42,180 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 3: so that you can engage that conversation without feeling that pressure. 476 00:24:46,180 --> 00:24:49,220 Speaker 3: And I would just say the most important thing is 477 00:24:49,260 --> 00:24:52,500 Speaker 3: to remain curious and to model curiosity and to be 478 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,980 Speaker 3: able to say to your child, you know, simple questions like, 479 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,060 Speaker 3: what do you think Jesus was trying to say in 480 00:24:58,100 --> 00:25:01,939 Speaker 3: that story? Or how do you think someone was feeling 481 00:25:01,980 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 3: in that story? Any simple little question to springboard the 482 00:25:06,010 --> 00:25:08,910 Speaker 3: conversation and you will be shocked at how kids just 483 00:25:08,930 --> 00:25:11,090 Speaker 3: take it and run with it because they are so curious. 484 00:25:11,710 --> 00:25:14,250 Speaker 3: And so even if you don't have the words, they'll 485 00:25:14,290 --> 00:25:17,379 Speaker 3: have the words. And then you just kind of follow 486 00:25:17,420 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 3: their lead. And it's okay to allow their curiosity to 487 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 3: take the lead and then you just help them navigate it. 488 00:25:24,740 --> 00:25:27,629 Speaker 3: So I would say, keep it simple. It is not, 489 00:25:27,770 --> 00:25:30,150 Speaker 3: you know, it doesn't need to seem like you are 490 00:25:30,230 --> 00:25:34,250 Speaker 3: a college professor that's teaching them theology and biblical studies. 491 00:25:34,470 --> 00:25:39,070 Speaker 3: You are just having organic, simple conversations with them. And 492 00:25:39,109 --> 00:25:41,930 Speaker 3: those are, I think, the most powerful. And then I 493 00:25:41,970 --> 00:25:45,230 Speaker 3: would say that It's a habit. It's a muscle that 494 00:25:45,270 --> 00:25:48,170 Speaker 3: I think we can develop, and it just takes some time. 495 00:25:48,790 --> 00:25:53,030 Speaker 3: But just developing the habit of turning everything you can 496 00:25:53,250 --> 00:25:57,470 Speaker 3: into a faith-building moment. And so, for instance, I was 497 00:25:57,530 --> 00:26:00,169 Speaker 3: driving my daughter back to campus. She's a freshman in college. 498 00:26:00,730 --> 00:26:02,810 Speaker 3: She's in college here. I was driving her back to 499 00:26:02,830 --> 00:26:05,300 Speaker 3: campus this morning because her car broke down. And she 500 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,260 Speaker 3: was getting ready to meet with her advisor to go 501 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,020 Speaker 3: ahead and pick classes for next semester. And she was 502 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 3: a little... stressed about it because when she registered over 503 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,980 Speaker 3: the summer, all the classes were full and it was 504 00:26:16,020 --> 00:26:17,580 Speaker 3: just not as easy as she thought. It was just 505 00:26:17,859 --> 00:26:22,810 Speaker 3: kind of overwhelming. And I just felt prompted to say 506 00:26:22,850 --> 00:26:24,649 Speaker 3: to her in the car, she's walking me through, here's 507 00:26:24,670 --> 00:26:25,989 Speaker 3: what I'm going to talk to her about. Here's what 508 00:26:26,010 --> 00:26:28,930 Speaker 3: I want to take. And I just felt led to say, hey, 509 00:26:29,630 --> 00:26:32,990 Speaker 3: have you stopped and prayed about this? Because you know 510 00:26:33,050 --> 00:26:36,310 Speaker 3: that God cares about these little details. He cares about 511 00:26:36,330 --> 00:26:39,070 Speaker 3: what classes you take next semester. He cares about you 512 00:26:39,090 --> 00:26:42,580 Speaker 3: not being stressed about it. He cares about how the 513 00:26:42,619 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 3: rest of your college process plays out. So how about 514 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,859 Speaker 3: we stop and pray about it? Very simple thing. I 515 00:26:48,900 --> 00:26:51,940 Speaker 3: didn't need to be the wisest person in the room. 516 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,330 Speaker 3: I just needed to exercise that muscle that says, hey, 517 00:26:55,550 --> 00:26:58,530 Speaker 3: everything they're dealing with, everything they're talking about, find a 518 00:26:58,570 --> 00:27:00,850 Speaker 3: way to turn it back to God and their relationship 519 00:27:00,869 --> 00:27:04,090 Speaker 3: with God. And I hope that by us praying together 520 00:27:04,150 --> 00:27:06,980 Speaker 3: about it, the next time she goes to do something 521 00:27:07,460 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 3: that's overwhelming with college, she's like, oh yeah, I can 522 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,830 Speaker 3: stop and talk to Jesus about this. And this is 523 00:27:11,850 --> 00:27:14,770 Speaker 3: something we've done most of her life, but she still 524 00:27:14,810 --> 00:27:17,430 Speaker 3: needs reminders, right? We all still need reminders. And so 525 00:27:17,490 --> 00:27:21,090 Speaker 3: little things like that, everyday moments where you just pause 526 00:27:21,150 --> 00:27:24,170 Speaker 3: and find a way to connect it to a faith-building moment, 527 00:27:24,190 --> 00:27:26,590 Speaker 3: what can they learn about God right now? And what 528 00:27:26,670 --> 00:27:28,469 Speaker 3: she could learn about God in that moment is He 529 00:27:28,510 --> 00:27:30,770 Speaker 3: cares about these little things, and so take. 530 00:27:30,630 --> 00:27:31,130 Speaker 1: It to Him. 531 00:27:31,810 --> 00:27:34,780 Speaker 3: So little things like that. I think can really take 532 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 3: the pressure off and just kind of make it more organic. 533 00:27:37,820 --> 00:27:40,380 Speaker 3: And again, it's not going to be comfortable overnight. It's 534 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 3: a muscle that we all have to develop and keep 535 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:43,199 Speaker 3: working at. 536 00:27:44,010 --> 00:27:45,290 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. 537 00:27:45,630 --> 00:27:48,270 Speaker 2: And yeah, it doesn't matter how long we all need 538 00:27:49,030 --> 00:27:53,090 Speaker 2: some encouragement and some reminders, but yeah. Well, I love 539 00:27:53,130 --> 00:27:56,409 Speaker 2: that you have resources in addition to the shows. 540 00:27:56,470 --> 00:27:58,929 Speaker 1: That's amazing. That's, that is so helpful. 541 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 2: Do you have any favorite stories or testimonials from people 542 00:28:03,300 --> 00:28:07,180 Speaker 2: who have had success with just helping their kids grow 543 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,419 Speaker 2: in their faith through Minnow? 544 00:28:10,420 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, we hear from members every week, little stories here 545 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,659 Speaker 3: and there. And most of the time, I had no 546 00:28:18,740 --> 00:28:21,139 Speaker 3: idea my four-year-old could say the fruit of the Spirit, 547 00:28:21,350 --> 00:28:24,450 Speaker 3: but they learned it from watching this show or this episode. 548 00:28:25,590 --> 00:28:29,590 Speaker 3: You know, my son has been running around playing the 549 00:28:29,650 --> 00:28:31,970 Speaker 3: Armor of God because there's an Armor of God series. Actually, 550 00:28:31,990 --> 00:28:34,189 Speaker 3: it's a Micah series about the Armor of God. And 551 00:28:34,230 --> 00:28:36,350 Speaker 3: he's been running around pretending to have the Armor of 552 00:28:36,390 --> 00:28:38,730 Speaker 3: God on, you know. And so we hear things like 553 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 3: that all the time. One of my favorites that I heard, 554 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,380 Speaker 3: I'll tell you a specific story. I was at a 555 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 3: children's ministry conference last week, and one of the children's 556 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 3: ministry leaders came up to the table. She said, I 557 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 3: couldn't wait to tell you guys this story. I was 558 00:28:52,740 --> 00:28:55,510 Speaker 3: teaching my kids about, and these were kindergarten, first graders. 559 00:28:56,090 --> 00:28:59,990 Speaker 3: I was teaching them about the judges, about judges the 560 00:29:00,030 --> 00:29:03,410 Speaker 3: other day. And I asked the kids, hey, do you know, 561 00:29:03,430 --> 00:29:06,270 Speaker 3: does anybody know how many judges God sent to help Israel? 562 00:29:06,290 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 3: And a couple of kids raised their hand and tried 563 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:09,940 Speaker 3: to guess and nobody was getting it right. And this 564 00:29:10,140 --> 00:29:12,980 Speaker 3: one little girl raised her hand and said, there were 565 00:29:12,980 --> 00:29:16,060 Speaker 3: 12 judges. And the teacher looked at her and said, 566 00:29:16,260 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 3: oh my goodness, that is right. How did you know that? 567 00:29:18,860 --> 00:29:23,610 Speaker 3: And she said, I watch Minnow. And the teacher was like, 568 00:29:23,690 --> 00:29:26,190 Speaker 3: oh my goodness, I can't believe it. So later on 569 00:29:26,370 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 3: in the lesson, after she was finished with the whole lesson, 570 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:29,900 Speaker 3: the little girl goes up to her and she says, 571 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 3: maybe you should watch Minnow 2. Like it would help 572 00:29:33,180 --> 00:29:37,590 Speaker 3: her be a better teacher. But that is the absolute 573 00:29:37,630 --> 00:29:39,330 Speaker 3: best endorsement that we could get. 574 00:29:39,350 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: I was going to say. to say, that's like a commercial. 575 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: I mean, that's like you paid that kid to say that. 576 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 3: I know, I know, but we didn't. It was totally organic. 577 00:29:49,300 --> 00:29:51,900 Speaker 3: We do hear stories about that all the time. And 578 00:29:52,420 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 3: that is such a blessing to us. We are like, 579 00:29:54,580 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 3: thank you, Jesus, that you are moving in the hearts 580 00:29:58,220 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 3: of these kids and helping them to understand. Now, that's knowledge. 581 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 3: You know, I want her to have more than knowledge. 582 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 3: I want her to know Jesus. That's why we're so 583 00:30:06,540 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 3: excited about the Jesus stories, because it's so much more 584 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 3: than knowledge. We don't want them to just know the Bible. 585 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,460 Speaker 3: We want them to experience Jesus every day. And so 586 00:30:16,580 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 3: hopefully that knowledge leads to her and her time with 587 00:30:19,220 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 3: Minnow leads her to understanding Jesus and to walking with him. 588 00:30:23,540 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 3: But it is fun to hear about kids because one 589 00:30:26,140 --> 00:30:28,070 Speaker 3: thing we know about kids is they love to know 590 00:30:28,150 --> 00:30:31,010 Speaker 3: more than you know. And so if we can teach 591 00:30:31,070 --> 00:30:34,330 Speaker 3: them little facts that make them feel confident and make 592 00:30:34,350 --> 00:30:38,100 Speaker 3: them feel excited about the Bible, then that's the beginning 593 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,220 Speaker 3: of them and hopefully a lifelong relationship with God. 594 00:30:41,820 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 595 00:30:42,380 --> 00:30:44,860 Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned kind of the food analogy before. 596 00:30:45,060 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 2: And I've definitely noticed when my kids were younger, especially, 597 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:54,110 Speaker 2: and incredibly impressionable, they still are. But it's almost like 598 00:30:54,170 --> 00:30:57,550 Speaker 2: what they consume on media kind of just comes right out. 599 00:30:57,650 --> 00:31:00,930 Speaker 2: They start talking like a certain person. And I can 600 00:31:00,970 --> 00:31:04,130 Speaker 2: remember just being like, they've been watching such and such 601 00:31:04,170 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 2: a show because that negative thing that I don't like 602 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 2: is coming out in them. And maybe we better limit that. 603 00:31:10,030 --> 00:31:13,490 Speaker 2: or a certain influencer on YouTube or something. 604 00:31:13,510 --> 00:31:15,590 Speaker 1: And this is the opposite. 605 00:31:15,830 --> 00:31:19,290 Speaker 2: It's like it's sowing good seeds that are coming out 606 00:31:19,550 --> 00:31:20,390 Speaker 2: in good ways. 607 00:31:20,620 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: And you can't go wrong there. That's a win-win. 608 00:31:23,300 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 3: That's what we hope. That's our prayer really every day. 609 00:31:25,620 --> 00:31:26,940 Speaker 1: Yeah. 610 00:31:27,900 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 2: Well, can you tell our listeners who at this point 611 00:31:30,580 --> 00:31:34,050 Speaker 2: are just obviously like, where do I find minnow? Tell 612 00:31:34,090 --> 00:31:36,450 Speaker 2: them where they can find minnow, where they can learn 613 00:31:36,490 --> 00:31:38,810 Speaker 2: more about it. and where they can connect with you 614 00:31:38,830 --> 00:31:40,670 Speaker 2: guys online and on social media. 615 00:31:40,690 --> 00:31:41,370 Speaker 1: Yeah. 616 00:31:42,030 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 3: So we are at gominno.com. It's G-O-M-I-N-N-O. So minno is 617 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:51,580 Speaker 3: spelled M-I-N-N-O. It's actually the Anglican spelling of the Greek 618 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:56,100 Speaker 3: word minno, which means to abide from John 15. And 619 00:31:56,140 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 3: that's our goal. That's our mission is to help kids 620 00:31:58,620 --> 00:32:02,910 Speaker 3: and families abide with Jesus through media. And so they 621 00:32:02,930 --> 00:32:06,730 Speaker 3: can find us at gominno.com. There they can sign up 622 00:32:06,750 --> 00:32:08,830 Speaker 3: for free trials. So you get to kind of try 623 00:32:08,890 --> 00:32:12,860 Speaker 3: things out and see if it's a right fit for 624 00:32:12,900 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 3: you and your family. And you can also find us 625 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,380 Speaker 3: on YouTube. We have a very big YouTube channel where 626 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 3: we put all those Bible stories. So you can check 627 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,010 Speaker 3: those out there as well if you want. And then 628 00:32:25,070 --> 00:32:27,630 Speaker 3: if you get tired of the ads, then you can 629 00:32:27,670 --> 00:32:30,730 Speaker 3: come on over to the Minnow app. We're on all 630 00:32:30,750 --> 00:32:33,870 Speaker 3: the platforms, all of our apps online. We're on Apple 631 00:32:33,890 --> 00:32:38,230 Speaker 3: TV and Roku and Amazon and all the smart TVs 632 00:32:38,290 --> 00:32:40,590 Speaker 3: and things like that. So you can find us pretty 633 00:32:40,630 --> 00:32:46,710 Speaker 3: much anywhere. And it's a subscription service. It's normally $ 10. 99 634 00:32:45,430 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 3: a month or we do $ 69. 99 a year, which is 635 00:32:49,140 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 3: amazing savings if you do yearly. And yeah, and then 636 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,940 Speaker 3: all of our members, like we love giving you guys 637 00:32:55,060 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 3: access to all the resources and helping, you know, with 638 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,010 Speaker 3: emails and reminders and things like that. to just help 639 00:33:01,050 --> 00:33:03,810 Speaker 3: you with discipleship. It's more than just a place to 640 00:33:03,850 --> 00:33:06,530 Speaker 3: watch media. It's really a place to, it's a tool 641 00:33:06,570 --> 00:33:08,350 Speaker 3: for you to use for family discipleship. 642 00:33:08,950 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. 643 00:33:10,410 --> 00:33:13,060 Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for being here, for telling 644 00:33:13,100 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 2: us about it, for sharing about it and giving us 645 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,820 Speaker 2: all the info. We like to close in prayer. So 646 00:33:19,940 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 2: how can I pray for you? It could be for Minnow. 647 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 2: It could be for personal, whatever. We just like to 648 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,290 Speaker 2: leave you with a prayer. I appreciate it. 649 00:33:28,030 --> 00:33:32,210 Speaker 3: Gosh, I would love prayer for just, continued wisdom and 650 00:33:32,250 --> 00:33:36,090 Speaker 3: discernment on how to handle these Bible stories. We're getting 651 00:33:36,150 --> 00:33:39,100 Speaker 3: into some of the harder Bible stories that we're going 652 00:33:39,150 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 3: to address for children, and we just want to do 653 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 3: it in the right way that honors the Word of God, 654 00:33:45,260 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 3: but also honors the way He made children. 655 00:33:48,220 --> 00:33:49,340 Speaker 1: That's great. I love that. 656 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:53,100 Speaker 2: I love your commitment to integrity to Scripture and not 657 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,719 Speaker 2: shying away from the hard stuff, but finding ways to 658 00:33:55,780 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 2: present it in a way that is easily digestible for 659 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,220 Speaker 2: kids and you know, leaves opportunities for parents to fill 660 00:34:03,260 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 2: in the gaps. 661 00:34:04,180 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: So absolutely. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. All right. 662 00:34:07,100 --> 00:34:10,580 Speaker 2: Jess, thank you for being here and let's pray. God, 663 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 2: we just thank you so much for this time together. 664 00:34:13,580 --> 00:34:15,840 Speaker 2: Thank you for Jess, for the work that she's doing 665 00:34:15,900 --> 00:34:20,060 Speaker 2: with Minnow and with these Bible stories. Thank you for 666 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,700 Speaker 2: the commitment to integrity to scripture. And we just pray 667 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 2: that you would just put protection, just a bubble of 668 00:34:27,020 --> 00:34:31,620 Speaker 2: protection around their whole team as they, kind of proceed 669 00:34:31,700 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 2: forward with some of the more difficult Bible stories. We 670 00:34:34,820 --> 00:34:39,950 Speaker 2: pray for inspiration. We pray for creativity. We pray for 671 00:34:40,410 --> 00:34:45,089 Speaker 2: just supernatural wisdom and protection that they would be able 672 00:34:45,130 --> 00:34:48,629 Speaker 2: to stay true to Scripture and find creative ways to 673 00:34:48,750 --> 00:34:53,029 Speaker 2: make these stories make sense for kids and provide springboards 674 00:34:53,090 --> 00:34:55,630 Speaker 2: for parents to fill in some of the gaps and 675 00:34:55,670 --> 00:34:57,750 Speaker 2: some of the questions that might come up that might 676 00:34:57,810 --> 00:35:01,180 Speaker 2: be kind of uncomfortable even or difficult. to talk about. 677 00:35:02,100 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 2: And we just thank you for your word. God, thank 678 00:35:04,140 --> 00:35:07,460 Speaker 2: you so much that you have given us this incredible resource. 679 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,930 Speaker 2: And we just pray for each person listening that you 680 00:35:10,969 --> 00:35:15,170 Speaker 2: would make your word just important to them, that for 681 00:35:15,190 --> 00:35:18,830 Speaker 2: those with kids or grandkids or spiritual kids or students, 682 00:35:18,910 --> 00:35:21,910 Speaker 2: that you would just help them have a passion for 683 00:35:22,090 --> 00:35:24,950 Speaker 2: pointing those children to Jesus and that you would give 684 00:35:24,989 --> 00:35:27,690 Speaker 2: them I also pray that you would remove any guilt 685 00:35:27,910 --> 00:35:29,969 Speaker 2: for those who feel like it's too late or they 686 00:35:30,010 --> 00:35:31,770 Speaker 2: missed the boat or they missed the window or they're 687 00:35:31,790 --> 00:35:34,350 Speaker 2: not doing enough because your grace is sufficient. 688 00:35:34,410 --> 00:35:36,030 Speaker 1: Your power is made perfect in weakness. 689 00:35:36,070 --> 00:35:39,340 Speaker 2: And we just pray that you would give each person 690 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:43,320 Speaker 2: at this moment everything they need to reach the people 691 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,020 Speaker 2: in their sphere of influence, the kids, the grandkids, the 692 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 2: adult children and grandchildren, to draw them closer to Jesus 693 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,620 Speaker 2: and point them to him because we know with you 694 00:35:51,780 --> 00:35:52,780 Speaker 2: all things are possible. 695 00:35:53,340 --> 00:35:54,379 Speaker 1: In Jesus' name, amen. 696 00:35:54,969 --> 00:35:56,310 Speaker 3: Amen. 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