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Speaker 3: be some confusion about what is actually going on. Why

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Speaker 3: let me explain it to you. It's simple. Democrats who

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Speaker 3: run the place because of their sanctuary policies, will not

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Speaker 3: You see, in most places, when local law enforcement picks

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Speaker 3: In fact, they often release these criminals back into the community,

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Speaker 5: Very simple solution here. Tim Walls and Mayor fry should

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Speaker 5: let us into their jails, those fourteen hundred individuals, those

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Speaker 3: Good question to ask, what is going on in Minnesota

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Speaker 6: Let's just say you're buying a five hundred thousand dollars home,

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Speaker 6: more for everything else in life. Now, all of this

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Speaker 8: Please all the Red states send us their data to

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Speaker 8: We're going to work really hard to make sure we're

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Speaker 3: So we have Democratic officials in Minnesota who don't want

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Speaker 3: Keeping with economic news, Taiwan and the United States have

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Speaker 3: us from you're in South Carolina today, probably a little

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Speaker 10: Great to be back in your absolutely rise cold, not

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I think the Progressive Caucus said this week that

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Speaker 3: putting together a forward looking agenda. It's called Budget reconciliation.

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Speaker 3: Is Budget reconciliation something you're interested in supporting? What are

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Speaker 7: I think it's a necessity.

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Speaker 3: Seriously, got about a minute to go here, Congressman Fry.

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Speaker 8: Did Arab in Israeli officials convince you to not strike Iran?

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Speaker 11: Nobody convinced me. I convinced myself. You had yesterday scheduled.

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Speaker 12: Over eight hundred hangings. They didn't hang anyone. They canceled

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me on, Scott.

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Speaker 3: Good to see you again, my friend. Long career in

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Speaker 13: Well, if the president was clear he's making his own decisions.

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Speaker 2: The question just is what is he going to do?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the President said help is on the way. That

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Speaker 2: He didn't listen to him in Venezuela. That's the right thing.

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Speaker 3: I think the question that a lot of people have,

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Speaker 3: What's your view on that. What kind of a military

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Speaker 2: Ye know, No, that's exactly right, Scott.

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Speaker 3: Boyce, you're hearing today, old friend of mine but new

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Speaker 13: Look, at least are a huge issue that have been

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Speaker 2: In the life.

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Speaker 13: You do see a lot more leaks under our administrations

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Speaker 13: So and I think they're prosecuting those who have access

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Speaker 2: What you don't want to have happened.

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Speaker 13: We're at a point in the administration where won the

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Speaker 13: president's requesting more money for defense.

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Speaker 2: We're record lows.

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Speaker 13: By the way, as a percent of the GDP, three

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Speaker 13: point two percent is a very low amount to be spending.

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Speaker 13: We're requiring our allies in NATO spend five and a

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Speaker 13: half percent.

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Speaker 2: We should get try to get close to that.

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Speaker 13: The President's new budget, we get us a right around

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Speaker 13: five percent. That's the right thing for our nation. We

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Speaker 13: need to be able to lean forward leave in the world,

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Speaker 13: make consider to our enemies, whether it's China, Rush it,

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Speaker 13: Iron in North Korea.

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Speaker 2: That we mean business.

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Speaker 13: And the President Trump meanly says, we talked about piece

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Speaker 13: of strength. So this is the right thing to do.

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Speaker 13: It's right for our long term benefit national security. And yes,

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Speaker 13: there's always going to be haters who say the President

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Speaker 13: should be spending more money in defense, you should spend

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Speaker 13: money on this or that. But if the US government

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Speaker 13: is right about one thing, and it should be doing

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Speaker 13: one thing for a conservative, that's defending the nation, that's

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Speaker 13: the right wa to spend money. If we need to

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Speaker 13: come back on social programs and look at Medicare and

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Speaker 13: Medicaid and social security, that's where all the money is

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Speaker 13: being spent.

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Speaker 2: That's the bulk of our budget. Defense is a tiny part.

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Speaker 13: We need to fix entitlements and spend that money on

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Speaker 13: the core interest.

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Speaker 2: Of American people, which is national security.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about Mark Carney, the new Canadian Prime Minister.

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Speaker 3: He was announcing new economic ties with China this week

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Speaker 3: including bringing Chinese electric vehicles to Canada. Looked like he

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Speaker 3: was getting chummy there with the Chinese, and some people

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Speaker 3: have attributed this to our rocky relations with China here

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Speaker 3: in the United States. What did you make of the

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Speaker 3: Canadian Prime minister looking like he wanted to be friends

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Speaker 3: and friendlier with China, especially as we sort out our

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Speaker 3: own relations with Canada here between them and the Trump administration. Oh,

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Speaker 3: looks like we may have lost Jamial's feed. All right,

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Speaker 3: guys in the booth, we got Jamial or we're gonna

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Speaker 3: have to get him back here, all right, We may

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Speaker 3: need to get him back. So the story, the story

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Speaker 3: I'm referencing is this week Mark Carney met with Chinese

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Speaker 3: officials and Carney was rather chummy with the head of

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Speaker 3: China's Jijimping, and he talked about opening the door to

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Speaker 3: more electric vehicles coming in. He talked about considerable a

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Speaker 3: Chinese investment in Canada's auto sector, and Carney told reporters, quote,

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Speaker 3: in terms of the way that our relationship has progressed

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Speaker 3: in recent months with China, it is more predictable. So

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Speaker 3: he was talking about being more friendly with China than

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Speaker 3: he is or wants to be with the United States.

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Speaker 3: We've got Jamil Jaffer, national security expert, back on the question,

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Speaker 3: sir is, what do you make of the Canadian Prime

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Speaker 3: Minister Carneye buddying up with the Chinese on a number

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Speaker 3: of fronts this week?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Sorry with this guy, Yeah, I mean it's outrageous. I

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Speaker 2: mean the is crazier to the Canaves to think that

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Speaker 2: the Chinese are a reliable partner. The Chines are not

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Speaker 2: a reliable partner. They are not.

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Speaker 3: Uh Oh, it's like Jamil is having some issues with

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Speaker 3: his with his internet connection there as we talk to him.

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Speaker 3: That's Jamil Jaffer. By the way, I've known Jamil for

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Speaker 3: a long time. He and I worked in the Bush

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Speaker 3: White House together years and years and years ago. He's

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Speaker 3: been one of the top national security lawyers and national

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Speaker 3: security advisors in Washington, d C. It's why I invited

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Speaker 3: him on the show today. Tell you what, let's do this.

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Speaker 3: Let's work on getting Jamil back on the horn here.

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Speaker 3: We'll bring him back for the next segment because there's

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Speaker 3: so many other topics that we need to discuss. We

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Speaker 3: got to talk about Taiwan, the administration announcing a big

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Speaker 3: trade deal with Taiwan, how that might impact the US

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Speaker 3: relations with China. We got to talk about Greenland. The

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Speaker 3: President made some comments on the south lawn of the

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Speaker 3: White House today about Greenland. We want to talk about that.

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Speaker 3: We're still talking about Venezuela. Yesterday in the news, President

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Speaker 3: Trump met with Machado, who is the opposition leader from Venezuela,

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Speaker 3: the freedom fighter who actually won the Nobel Peace Prize

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Speaker 3: this year. Machado and Trump had thrown some cold water

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Speaker 3: on the prospects of Machado returning to Venezuela as the

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Speaker 3: new leader of that country. But they did meet for

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Speaker 3: a couple of hours in the White House late yesterday,

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Speaker 3: and Machado actually presented Trump with her own Nobel Peace Prize.

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Speaker 3: She gave it to Trump. She said Trump deserved it.

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Speaker 3: He accepted that gift from Machado. So we're gonna want

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Speaker 3: to talk about what that might mean for the future

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Speaker 3: of Venezuela. And I want to hear from Jamil about

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Speaker 3: how he thinks the next short term, medium term, long

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Speaker 3: term prospects for elections in Venezuela are going to go.

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Speaker 3: So we'll get Jamil back on the line and continue

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Speaker 3: this national security conversation in just a moment for common

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Speaker 3: sense for the American people. Scott Jennings here with you

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Speaker 3: on Salem, and we've got our friend, national security expert

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Speaker 3: Jamil Jaffer back on the line. Let's listen Jamiel to

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Speaker 3: the President. He just made some comments on the south

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Speaker 3: lawn of the White House about Greenland. As you know,

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Speaker 3: the President thinks we should own and control Greenland. It's

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Speaker 3: cut thirty. Let's hear from Donald Trump.

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Speaker 4: Well, we're going to see data has been dealing with

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Speaker 4: us Greenland.

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Speaker 11: We need Cleveland for national security very.

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Speaker 4: Badly that we don't have it. We have a big

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Speaker 4: hole in todaytional security, especially when it comes to what

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Speaker 4: we're doing in terms of.

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Speaker 11: The Golden Gold and all of the other thing.

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Speaker 4: We have a lot of a lot of investments in military.

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Speaker 4: We have got the strongest military in.

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Speaker 11: The world that is only getting stronger. And you saw

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Speaker 11: that with Venezuela.

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Speaker 4: You saw that with the Attaco to round with the

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Speaker 4: knocked out there two careers cap facilities. So yeah, we're

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Speaker 4: gonna we're talking today.

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Speaker 9: We know.

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Speaker 3: That Jamil, the President met with the Danish foreign minister

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Speaker 3: this week and the people from Greenland, and you know,

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Speaker 3: the daylight appeared to open up after those chats this

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Speaker 3: week with Vice President Vance and Secretary of State Rubio.

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Speaker 3: What do you make of the president's comments this morning?

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Speaker 3: And do we need Greenland? Is the president right?

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Speaker 2: I think the President one hundred percent right.

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Speaker 13: You know, the US has tried to buy or obtained

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Speaker 13: Greenland four times since the eighteen seventies. We did eighteen

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Speaker 13: seventy two, nineteen ten, nineteen forties well out for a

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Speaker 13: hundred million dollars in gold.

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Speaker 2: So we've known the importance of Greenland. And in this

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Speaker 2: era where.

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Speaker 13: China's an adversary, rushes the adversary, we've got to worry

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Speaker 13: about the Arctic and all the capabilities and opportunities the

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Speaker 13: Arctic presents. There's no question that if we had Greenland

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Speaker 13: we'd be much better off. Now, how do we go

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Speaker 13: about getting it? We got to figure out how to

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Speaker 13: get to a deal with Denmark. We're probably not going

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Speaker 13: to try to go to war with the name country,

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Speaker 13: So questions, how do you.

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Speaker 2: Work this out?

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Speaker 13: President Trump is putting on maximum pressure to get it done.

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Speaker 2: We'll see if it works, that's the goal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you. I think the Greenland play makes

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Speaker 3: a lot of sense. Historically, you know, William Seward wanted it.

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Speaker 3: The Secretary of State under Lincoln, Harry Truman, tried to

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Speaker 3: buy it. We bought stuff from Denmark before we bought

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Speaker 3: the Virgin Islands, i think in World War One for

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Speaker 3: strategic reason. So it's not unprecedented to try to make

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Speaker 3: a deal on something like this. So we'll see what

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Speaker 3: the President can do. Let's shift talk to Venezuela. The

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Speaker 3: President met with Machado yesterday, the opposition leader, the Nobel

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Speaker 3: Prize winner. He had previously thrown cold water on the

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Speaker 3: prospects of her returning and taking power in Venezuela. The

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Speaker 3: seem to be some thawing between those two at the

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Speaker 3: White House because she gave him her Nobel prize, which

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Speaker 3: the President did accept. What is your view on what

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Speaker 3: Venezuelan leadership should and will look like in the short

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Speaker 3: term and then over the next six to twelve to

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Speaker 3: eighteen months.

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Speaker 13: Well, look, obviously, you know we don't have the infra

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Speaker 13: the President has about what's going on in Venezuela and

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Speaker 13: who the right leadership is. But I'll say this, it

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Speaker 13: is surprising, I think to probably a lot of us

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Speaker 13: who saw Maduro being a problem that his vice president

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Speaker 13: is now in charge, Delsea Rodriguez. Now maybe she's client

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Speaker 13: and we'll be able to work with her, she'll do

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Speaker 13: what we want to do. But I think everyone's sort

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Speaker 13: of assumption going in was, if you're taking out Maduro,

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Speaker 13: the person you're putting in place is the properly elected

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Speaker 13: leader of Venezuela, the opposition leader, Maria Koreana Mashado. Now

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Speaker 13: remember she wasn't actually elected. Her her proxy was elected.

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Speaker 13: But it's because Maduro kicked drive of the election.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 13: It was first Wuangwido, then her and then her proxy,

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Speaker 13: So one of those should have been in power. It's

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Speaker 13: surprising that Maduro's vice president's currently in play.

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Speaker 2: We'll see what the president does.

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Speaker 13: Maybe getting this old, if he's prized, is the one

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Speaker 13: thing he needed to get over the line on Mashada.

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Speaker 3: What's reasonable on holding an election? I mean, I've seen

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Speaker 3: some commentary that you know, they need to move to

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Speaker 3: elections right now. That seems to me to be a

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Speaker 3: little hasty. I mean, I think what Trump's trying to

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Speaker 3: do is get America's interests and American leverage up before

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Speaker 3: they throw the country into elections. But what in your

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Speaker 3: mind is a reasonable timeline. Is it this year, is

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Speaker 3: it early next year? What's the most reasonable outlook here?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, it's hard to know because you've got

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Speaker 13: to understand the situation the country, understand whether the whether

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Speaker 13: the country is prepared now for democracy and for elections.

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Speaker 13: We want to get there as fast as possible. So

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Speaker 13: a year seems like a reasonable time frame. But the

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Speaker 13: sooner the better, I think. Well, the problem you have

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Speaker 13: right now is you've got these armed gangs in the

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Speaker 13: streets roaming around, you know, conducting roadblocks and interdicting people

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Speaker 13: and trying to extort people. That's a problem you have

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Speaker 13: when you've got a lack of leadership. And if this

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Speaker 13: government can't just sort of control, then maybe we need

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Speaker 13: to put some of the empower who can astart control.

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Speaker 13: But at the end of the day, elections sooner than

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Speaker 13: later is the better thing for us, better thing for

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Speaker 13: that country, And ideally the people of Venezuela do what

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Speaker 13: they ought to do, which is elect somebody that's friendly

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Speaker 13: the United States and more support of their own people

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Speaker 13: help them get their benefits.

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Speaker 2: How the resources they have, they've got huge mineral.

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Speaker 13: Resources, including well the Venezuelan people get benefit from that.

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Speaker 2: They need the right leadership in place.

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Speaker 3: A couple of seconds left, Jamil Jeffer, you are the

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Speaker 3: executive director of the National Security Institute at George Mason's

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Speaker 3: School of Law. Where can folks find you online if

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Speaker 3: they want to follow your commentary?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, national Security dot GMU dot edu is our.

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Speaker 13: Website, and I'm on Twitter, at at Jamil, at x

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Speaker 13: at chat.

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Speaker 2: Jamil, underscore and Underscore Jaffer.

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Speaker 13: Find us on LinkedIn as well, and we're on Instagram newly,

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Speaker 13: so come check us out.

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Speaker 2: Got a YouTube page. Well, we'll go at to see

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Speaker 2: you all there.

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Speaker 3: All right, thanks national Security Expert, Jamil Jeffer. You've been

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Speaker 3: a great guest. We're going to take a break and

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Speaker 3: in the second hour talk energy. When we come back.

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Speaker 3: It's common Sense for the American people. Scott Jennings is

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Speaker 1: The Voice of free Speech, the truth delivered, common sense

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Speaker 1: for the American people. Welcome to the Scott Jennings Show.

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Speaker 3: Okay, it is Friday, January the sixteenth, Our number two

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Speaker 3: of the Scott Jennings Show, Common Sense for the American People.

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Speaker 3: Coming up at thirty three minutes past the hour. My

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Speaker 3: It's Scott Jennings here on Salem, common sense for the

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Speaker 3: American people. As I mentioned, President Trump is mounting a

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's Friday, January sixteenth. It's common sense for the

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Speaker 3: be some confusion about what is actually going on. Why

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Speaker 3: is ice in Minnesota? Why are there so many agents? Well,

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Speaker 3: let me explain it to you. It's simple. The local

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Speaker 3: local law enforcement picks up any illegal alien who has

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Speaker 3: called detainers. That's what you'll hear that term detainers. In Minnesota,

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Speaker 3: they won't do that. In fact, they often release these

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Speaker 3: That means you need more ICE agents to then find

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Speaker 3: them when they are released and then deport them. So

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Speaker 3: what can be done about this legitimate question. It's pretty simple.

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Speaker 3: Cooperation from the locals here would solve everything. Let's listen

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Speaker 3: to Assistant DHS Secretary Trisha McLaughlin who appeared on CNN

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Speaker 3: this morning Cut twenty six.

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Speaker 5: There's a very simple solution here. Tim Walls and mare

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Speaker 5: Fry should let us into their jails, those fourteen hundred individuals,

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Speaker 5: those criminal legal aliens who have already had their due process.

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Speaker 5: Let us in those jails. Let us take those murders,

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Speaker 5: this solution. Work with state and local law enforcement. That

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Speaker 5: is what we're asking down in Florida, there's been forty

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Speaker 5: we've seen public safety. That's what we should be seeing

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Speaker 3: Good question to ask, what is going on in Minnesota

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Speaker 3: that isn't going on in other places? What does Minnesota

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Speaker 3: they have two things. They have Tim Walls, the buffoon governor,

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Speaker 3: and they have honorary Somali pirate the mayor of Minneapolis,

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Speaker 3: Jacob Frye. That's what they have that other states and

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Speaker 3: other cities don't have. And you have to ask yourself

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Speaker 3: why why are Waltz and fry and the other Democrats

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Speaker 3: in Minnesota working so hard to prevent violent illegal aliens

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Speaker 3: from being deported from our country. Housing News the average

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Speaker 3: long term US mortgage rate is down to its lowest

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Speaker 3: level in more than three years. The benchmark thirty year

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Speaker 3: fixed rate mortgage is now just over six percent. One

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Speaker 3: year ago, it was a little over seven percent. Let's

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Speaker 3: hear how they discussed it on CNN Cut twenty one.

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Speaker 6: Let's just say you're buying a five hundred thousand dollars home.

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Speaker 6: You're putting twenty percent down. A year ago, your monthly

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Speaker 6: Now they're around twenty four hundred dollars. Now, that might

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Speaker 6: not sound like that much, it's about two hundred and

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Speaker 6: sixty dollars difference, but over the course of a year,

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Speaker 6: you're talking about three thousand dollars less in interest. Over

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Speaker 6: So that's huge, right, that's less money going to the bank,

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Speaker 6: more for everything else in life. Now, all of this

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Speaker 6: more on this issue of housing affordability. Right, the President

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Speaker 6: wants to ban large institutional investors from i'm scooping up

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Speaker 6: Fanny May and Freddie mack by two hundred billion dollars

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Speaker 6: of mortgage bonds, and experts are saying that those efforts

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Speaker 6: which of course he's encouraging.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, promising news for home buyers there from CNN, the

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Speaker 3: US Department of Agriculture is looking into fraud in the

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Speaker 3: snap program. This is the government program for food stamps. Now,

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Speaker 3: Red states are cooperating with these data transfer requests, but

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Speaker 3: Rollins to tell us about that plague to cut twenty four.

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Speaker 8: Please all the Red states send us their data to

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Speaker 8: help figure out out what that looked like. We found

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Speaker 8: two hundred thousand dead people or people using dead people's

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Speaker 8: social Security numbers. We found half a million people getting

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Speaker 8: more than two times what they should have getting those

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Speaker 8: benefits twice. We found some guy getting benefits in five

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Speaker 8: states and Maria.

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Speaker 2: This is just the Red States.

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Speaker 8: I mean, the Red States normally have a smaller program,

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Speaker 8: tighter accountability and control. The Blue states suit us, and

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Speaker 8: so we're in another active litigation on that. They don't

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Speaker 8: want California, New York, they don't want to turn their

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Speaker 8: data over so that we can help them root out

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Speaker 8: the fraud.

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Speaker 3: And then the Minnesota.

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Speaker 8: Piece, of course will Truvall been covering is remarkable.

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Speaker 2: So we are in court.

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Speaker 8: We're going to work really hard to make sure we're

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Speaker 8: protecting the American taxpayer.

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Speaker 2: And the people who actually need these programs.

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Speaker 3: So we have Democratic officials in Minnesota who don't want

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Speaker 3: to deport violent, illegal aliens. We have Democratic officials in

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Speaker 3: Minnesota and other Blue states who don't want to work

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Speaker 3: with the federal government on rooting out fraud and abuse

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Speaker 3: in the food stamp program. Again, we have to ask

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Speaker 3: why why is one political party so dedicated to protecting

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Speaker 3: illegal aliens and the fraud in which they may be engaged.

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Speaker 3: Keeping with economic news, Taiwan the United States have reached

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Speaker 3: an agreement on a critical trade deal. The US will

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Speaker 3: lower tariffs from twenty percent to fifteen percent, and in return,

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Speaker 3: Taiwan will invest five hundred billion dollars in the United States,

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Speaker 3: a lot of it going into chip making. Here's Commerce

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Speaker 3: Secretary Howard Lutnick to explain the deal cut twenty five.

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Speaker 9: Two commitments from Taiwan. There's two hundred and fifty billion

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Speaker 9: that comes directly from companies, and then there's two hundred

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Speaker 9: and fifty billion supplied by the government to help their

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Speaker 9: smaller and medium sized companies all and bring that whole

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Speaker 9: supply chain to America. So we're going to bring it

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Speaker 9: all over so we become self sufficient in the capacity

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Speaker 9: of building semiconductors. This is exactly what Donald Trump said

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Speaker 9: he was going to do, and he's doing it today.

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Speaker 9: Two hundred and fifty billion and two hundred and fifty billion.

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Speaker 9: This is the kind of scale that Donald Trump operates in.

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Speaker 3: So it's a little quality of life news for you.

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Speaker 3: Overdose over the ghost deaths in the United States are down,

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Speaker 3: way down. Listen to this. US overdose deaths fell through

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Speaker 3: most of last year, and if you look at the data,

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Speaker 3: it appears there is a close correlation between getting the

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Speaker 3: border closed and stopping the flow of drugs that kill

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Speaker 3: our people. When we come back more news from Washington,

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Speaker 3: Congressman Russell Frye will join us. It's common sense for

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Speaker 3: the American people. Stay with us. Oh, we owned a

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Speaker 3: few last night on the ten o'clock debating show talking

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Speaker 3: about this immigration stuff. Many check out my social media

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Speaker 3: feed at Scott jennings Ky on the X platform. You'll

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Speaker 3: see a lot of video joining us now. Congressman Russell Frye,

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Speaker 3: representing South Carolina's seventh congressional district, a member of the

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Speaker 3: House Committee on Energy and Commerce, also the Judiciary Committee,

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Speaker 3: and Russell is joining us from you're in South Carolina today,

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Speaker 3: probably a little cooler than usual, but warmer than it

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Speaker 3: is here in New York City. Russell, welcome back to

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Speaker 3: the Scott Jennings Show.

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Speaker 10: Great to be back in your absolutely rise cold, not

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Speaker 10: what we're used to, but certainly warmer than what you

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Speaker 10: might be experiencing in New York.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, Let's talk what's going on in Washington. There

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Speaker 3: seems to be some rumblings among Democrats and progressive activists

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Speaker 3: that they want to shut down the government if there

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Speaker 3: is any money that goes towards ICE immigration enforcement operations.

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Speaker 3: Is that a vibration that you were picking up right

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Speaker 3: now from the Democrats on Capitol Hill.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: I think the Progressive Caucus said this week that that

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Speaker 10: they were going to fight tooth and nail to defund

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Speaker 10: get rid of ICE completely. That I think one member

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Speaker 10: from Michigan said that that reform was out of the question,

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Speaker 10: that they were just going to dismantle and defund all

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Speaker 10: of them.

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Speaker 7: They wanted them gone completely.

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Speaker 10: And I think that's just kind of how far how

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Speaker 10: crazy the Democrats have really gone at this point, right

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Speaker 10: like that, that we're going to whole scale get rid

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Speaker 10: of one of the most important agencies that we do

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Speaker 10: that protects our nation's borders. Right, that gets bad guys

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Speaker 10: off the streets. But I think this is the classic

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Speaker 10: case Scott of Trump derangement syndrome, Right that if Trump

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Speaker 10: says something, even if it's really really good and supported

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Speaker 10: by say ninety percent of the American people, that it

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Speaker 10: somehow within Democrats ethos that they have to instinctively reject it. Right,

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Speaker 10: And this seems to be kind of that classic case

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Speaker 10: Progressives maybe not thinking correctly, but maybe that's instead of

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Speaker 10: telling us exactly who they are.

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Speaker 3: While Democrats are thinking of defunding EYES, which by the way,

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Speaker 3: is just another way of saying defund the police, they've

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Speaker 3: never really come off of that. They just they're looking

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Speaker 3: for different policing agencies to defund. House Republicans are actually

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Speaker 3: putting together a forward looking agenda. It's called budget reconciliation.

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Speaker 3: We've been discussing that here on the show the last

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Speaker 3: several days. This comes out of the Republican Study Committee.

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Speaker 3: Is budget reconciliation something you're interested in supporting? What are

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Speaker 3: the pillars of that that are most of interest to you?

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Speaker 3: Resenting South Carolina.

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Speaker 7: I think it's a necessity.

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Speaker 10: I think we have to Democrats took part in reconciliation

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Speaker 10: tactics when they had controlled two out of three times

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Speaker 10: that they could have done it. I think Republicans owe

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Speaker 10: it to the voters to do so. The Big Beautiful

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Speaker 10: bill was awesome in the areas that had touched so

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Speaker 10: many things. It was an incredible piece of legislation. But

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Speaker 10: I think Phase two heading into the new year right now,

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Speaker 10: making sure that we're responding to the American people. What

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Speaker 10: I like about the RSC framework is that it sets

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Speaker 10: forward a path, I think to make this country more

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Speaker 10: affordable right for the American people. Some of the tax

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Speaker 10: cuts and things in the first Reconciliation bill were great,

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Speaker 10: but there are so many things that are in this

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Speaker 10: framework that RSC has put out that conservatives and really

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Speaker 10: the American people, like making home ownership affordable right, Allowing

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Speaker 10: your mortgage rate to be transferable maybe to the next

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Speaker 10: property that you have, that if you have a stay

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Speaker 10: at home spouse, that you wouldn't be penalized by staying

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Speaker 10: at home rather than having two parents that work, that

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Speaker 10: you would take part in the same kind of tax

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Speaker 10: credit that they would get.

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Speaker 7: These are some of the.

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Speaker 10: Easy things that really help bolster the American worker, bolster

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Speaker 10: the American family. I think those are essential, especially in

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Speaker 10: this year kind of cleaning up the mess, continuing to

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Speaker 10: clean up the mess from the Joe Biden era. This

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Speaker 10: is a great framework that I hope that the Republican

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Speaker 10: Conference broadly will take seriously, got.

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Speaker 3: About a minute to go here at Congressman Fry, you

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Speaker 3: were recently integral in passing a human trafficking bill, which

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Speaker 3: I think is now sitting on the President's desk waiting

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Speaker 3: for his signature. Tell us about that law. What are

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Speaker 3: we doing to combat human trafficking?

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Speaker 10: This bill is kind of a first of its kind

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Speaker 10: from a national standard. Forty seven states have this, but

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Speaker 10: it allows a victim of human trafficking to show in

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Speaker 10: a court that if they're a victim, that their charges

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Speaker 10: would be their non violent charges would be expunged. Trafficking

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Speaker 10: victims are sometimes picked up on prostitution, identity theft, things

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Speaker 10: like that, and they don't tell their story. Prosecutors love

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Speaker 10: this bill though, and they support it because it allows

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Speaker 10: a victim to tell that story that they go after

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Speaker 10: the real perpetrator. But this national standard, I think when

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Speaker 10: the President signs this will be the first of its kind.

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Speaker 10: It was broadly supported by SEAPAC, you know, Republicans and Democrats.

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Speaker 10: It's just a good piece of public policy and it

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Speaker 10: allows you to go after the real bad actors. And

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Speaker 10: so I'm looking forward to the President signing it, and

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Speaker 10: i think it'll be a great addition to our efforts

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Speaker 10: to combat human trafficking in the United States.

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Speaker 3: Now, Voyce, you're hearing Congressman Russell Frye, friend of the show,

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Speaker 3: and he's in South Carolina representing the people down there

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Speaker 3: in the seventh District. Russell, thanks for joining us. We're

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Speaker 3: going to take a break when we come back. Latest

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Speaker 3: breaking news on whether the President may strike Iran, and

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Speaker 3: we've got national security expert Jamil Jeffer here to comment

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Speaker 3: on all of that. It's common sense for the area people.

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Speaker 3: Scott Jennings is on Salem.

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Speaker 2: Stay with us.

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Speaker 3: We are dispensing common sense to the American people today

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Speaker 3: here on Salem. It is Friday, January sixteenth. We're tracking

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Speaker 3: the moves in Washington and at the White House about

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Speaker 3: the president's decision making regarding whether to strike Iran. He

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Speaker 3: has not pulled the trigger on this just yet, and

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Speaker 3: he was asked about it on the White House lawn,

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Speaker 3: the south lawn. Just a few seconds ago. We have

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Speaker 3: the president's comment, it's cut twenty nine. Let's hear from

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Speaker 3: the president.

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Speaker 8: Did Arab and Israeli officials convince you to not strike Iran?

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Speaker 11: Nobody convinced me. I convinced myself. You had yesterday scheduled.

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Speaker 12: Over eight hundred hangings. They didn't hang anyone. They canceled

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Speaker 12: the hangings that had a big effect.

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Speaker 3: President seems to think he's making some headway with pressure

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Speaker 3: and diplomacy over military action. To discuss all of this

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Speaker 3: on the line with us now, Jamie Jaffer, founder and

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Speaker 3: executive director of the National Security Institute at George Mason

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Speaker 3: University's antonin Scalia School of Law, Jamiel, Welcome into the

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Speaker 3: Scott Jennings Show.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Fan me on, Scott.

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Speaker 3: Good to see you again, my friend. Long career in

1013
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Speaker 3: Washington in the national security space, You've known more about

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Speaker 3: national security policy here than most of us will ever know.

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Speaker 3: I want to get your immediate reaction to what you

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Speaker 3: just heard from the President right there. Are you surprised

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Speaker 3: that the United States has not struck Iran? With all

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Speaker 3: these protests going on in the streets.

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Speaker 13: Well, look, the President was clear he's making his own decisions.

1020
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Speaker 13: We know that about Donald Trump. Nobody moves Donald Trump.

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Speaker 13: He decides what he wants to do. But this is

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Speaker 13: a concern, right because he's made clear to the protesters

1023
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Speaker 13: that he's the support is coming, he said it publicly.

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Speaker 13: He's now sort of put himself in a situation where

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Speaker 13: he needs to do something.

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Speaker 2: The question just is what is he going to do.

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Speaker 13: Is he gonna supply weapons, is he gonna supply material

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Speaker 13: simply money, or is he actually going to come in

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Speaker 13: with some sort of an air strike or other military intervention.

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Speaker 13: He doesn't have to do any of those things, but

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Speaker 13: he's got to do something, presumably to support the IRNG

1032
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Speaker 13: and protests like he said he would.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the President said help is on the way. That

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Speaker 3: was his direct comment. Do we risk here American credibility

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Speaker 3: if we don't come in with something after the presidential

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Speaker 3: comments that he made earlier this week.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that's exactly the worry.

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Speaker 13: You know, we saw President Obama totally with when he

1039
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Speaker 13: sent the Seria redline and didn't do anything about it.

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Speaker 13: We saw President Biden when he didn't support the Massamani

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Speaker 13: protests the Green Revolution. Obama failed on two, so we

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Speaker 13: have a unique opportunity here. President Trump is demonstrated he's

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Speaker 13: the kind of guy who means what he says, who

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Speaker 13: does what he says. So hopefully he'll do what he

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Speaker 13: says here back to the Iran protesters, and you know,

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Speaker 13: hopefully with other folks administration who want the president to

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Speaker 13: be more reticent, he did listen to him Venezuela. That's

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Speaker 13: the right thing. He's not listening on Greenland, that's the

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Speaker 13: right thing. Hopefully doesn't listen to on Iran either. He

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Speaker 13: should go after Iran and help those protesters out and

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Speaker 13: get that regime out of power.

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Speaker 3: I think the question that a lot of people have,

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Speaker 3: and of course we don't have the benefit of the

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Speaker 3: intelligence briefings. We're not talking to the Israeli Intelligence Service

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Speaker 3: or the other Arab states or whoever that President Trump

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Speaker 3: has access to. But you know, the average person is thinking,

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Speaker 3: if we did strike Iran, would it actually topple the regime?

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Speaker 3: Obviously they're under as you can see there if you're

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Speaker 3: watching on the video screen, they're under a huge pressure

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Speaker 3: right now with these protesters. But would military strikes actually

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Speaker 3: take down the regime. Some people have suggested they're in

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Speaker 3: a stronger position than perhaps we would want them to be.

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Speaker 3: What's your view on that. What kind of a military

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Speaker 3: intervention would be needed here in order to really take

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Speaker 3: down the regime. I don't think the president would want

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Speaker 3: to issue a strike or call in the orders and

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Speaker 3: then the regime stays in place.

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Speaker 13: YEA, No, that's exactly right, Scott. I think that's the

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Speaker 13: question they're probably trying to figure out. Right, do you

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Speaker 13: want to conduct to decapitation strike where you try to

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Speaker 13: take out their leadership and then there's opportunity for new

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Speaker 13: leadership to rise up. That's perhaps more failure to the

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Speaker 13: US more supportive by the protesters. Do support the protesters,

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Speaker 13: they can give them what they need to take back

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Speaker 13: to their own country. That's the ideal scenario. If we

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Speaker 13: can avoid military strikes, we should. If we need to

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Speaker 13: take maltraction, then we've got to focus on the people

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Speaker 13: that are going after the protesters, those that are in charge,

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Speaker 13: that are doing those things that have been oppressing the

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Speaker 13: Iranian people.

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Speaker 2: That's you need to go after.

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Speaker 13: But at the end of the day, the truth is, Scott,

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Speaker 13: you know this, The snake is at the top of

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Speaker 13: the leadership. It's the ayahtola and the people around him.

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Speaker 13: You got to take that guy out. The questions do

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Speaker 13: we have the ability to know where he is? Can

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Speaker 13: we take him out? And can then will the next

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Speaker 13: perst to come in be more a lot of the

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Speaker 13: United States.

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Speaker 2: That's the hope, that's the wish. We'll see what we get, Boyce.

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Speaker 3: You're hearing today. Old friend of mine, but new to

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Speaker 3: the Scott Jennings Show. Jamil Jeffer, founder and executive director

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Speaker 3: of the National Security Institute at George Mason's School of Law,

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Speaker 3: let me ask you a question about a story that

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Speaker 3: popped up this week about leaking at the Pentagon. It

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Speaker 3: sounds like that the government put someone in jail, a

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Speaker 3: contractor at the Pentagon, for leaking national security secrets. And

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Speaker 3: as part of this, a reporter for the Washington Post

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Speaker 3: had their home rated as they were looking for evidence.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't sound like the reporter is actually under investigation.

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Speaker 3: They were simply looking for evidence. I assume you've looked

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Speaker 3: at these stories. Two questions. Hey, how bad of a

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Speaker 3: problem is leaking at the Pentagon? I feel like when

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Speaker 3: Trump is in leaking gets worse than when Democrats are

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Speaker 3: in and b after reviewing the government's actions here, are

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Speaker 3: you comfortable with everything they're doing to shut down the leaks?

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Speaker 13: Look, at least are a huge issue that have been

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Speaker 13: for a long time. They do seem to happen, particularly

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Speaker 13: at parts of the government that are sort of maybe

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Speaker 13: less hawkish in the Republicans State Department in the life.

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Speaker 13: You do see a lot more leaks under our administrations

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Speaker 13: than others.

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Speaker 2: But it's the sandemic. It happens all the time.

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Speaker 13: So and I think they're prosecuting those who have access

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Speaker 13: to class side information and get it out improperly, whether

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Speaker 13: they're giving it to the enemy, which is obviously worse,

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Speaker 13: but leaking it as well, that's not legally.

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Speaker 2: You can't transmit class sided information. In this case.

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Speaker 13: What we've heard at leaset public the report about this

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Speaker 13: this individual Orregio Perez lying notis is that he apparently

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Speaker 13: had classified doctments in the house. At one point, I

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Speaker 13: had class side doctors in a lunch box in his car.

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Speaker 13: So that's not obviously lawful, that's illegal. You got to

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Speaker 13: prosecute that. Now, the question of the reporters, the question

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Speaker 13: is why are you going there if the reason that

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Speaker 13: they went there was they thought the reporter had a

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Speaker 13: class side information and might be trying to obtain classident

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Speaker 13: informational Lawfully, that's totally fine.

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Speaker 2: What you don't want to have happened.

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Speaker 13: And there are concerns if people expressed about this mprior

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Speaker 13: administration saying, look, we're gonna up to reports because that

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Speaker 13: we don't want to push back on them trying to

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Speaker 13: get information out of our people. That gets a lot closer. First,

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Speaker 13: mimentary is where we should all be a little uncomfortable.

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Speaker 13: That's the where of the line gets dangerous. But going

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Speaker 13: after somebody who's got access class out inforations leaking absolutely

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Speaker 13: well within the mainstream the right thing to do, and

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Speaker 13: we just can't.

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Speaker 2: Have that happening.

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Speaker 3: All right, Let's talk about the defense budget. This week,

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Speaker 3: President Trump announced he would request a one and a

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Speaker 3: half trillion dollar defense budget for twenty twenty seven. That

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Speaker 3: would represent about a fifty percent annual increase. There had

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Speaker 3: been some people in the president's coalition that was hoping

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Speaker 3: he might cut defense spending, but in fact he's going

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Speaker 3: to one and a half trillion. Previously, Congress had raised

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Speaker 3: the top line to nine hundred billion dollars last month

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Speaker 3: as part of the Defense Policy Bill. What do you

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Speaker 3: make of the president's budget request. I think it surprised

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Speaker 3: a lot of folks in Washington that he went up

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Speaker 3: to a one and a half trillion. Is this amount

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Speaker 3: of money necessary? Do you like the budget request from

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Speaker 3: the White House?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, this is the right thing to do.

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Speaker 13: We're at a point in the administration where won the

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Speaker 13: president's requesting.

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Speaker 2: More money for defense. We're a record lows.

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Speaker 13: By the way, as a percent of the GDP, three

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Speaker 13: point two percent is a very low amount to be spending.

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Speaker 13: We're requiring our allies that NATO spend five and a

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Speaker 13: half percent. We should get trying to get close to that.

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Speaker 13: The president's new budget, we get us a right around

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Speaker 13: five percent. That's the right thing for our nation. We

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Speaker 13: need to be able to lean forward, leave in the world,

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Speaker 13: make clear to our enemies, whether it's China, Russia, Iran

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Speaker 13: and North Korea, that we mean business and the President

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Speaker 13: Trump means what he says.

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Speaker 2: We talked about peace and strength. So this is the

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Speaker 2: right thing to do.

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Speaker 13: It's right for our long term benefit national security. And yes,

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Speaker 13: there's always going to be haters who say the president

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Speaker 13: should be spending more money in defense. You should spend

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Speaker 13: money on this or that. But if the US government

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Speaker 13: is right about one thing, and it should be doing

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Speaker 13: one thing for a conservative, that's defending the nation.

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Speaker 2: That's the right place to spend money.

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Speaker 13: If we need to come back on social programs and

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Speaker 13: look at Medicare and Medicaid and social security, that's where

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Speaker 13: all the money is being spent. That's the bulk of

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Speaker 13: our budget. Defense is a tiny part. We needed to

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Speaker 13: fix entitlements and spend that money on the core interest

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Speaker 13: of American people, which is nash security.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about Mark Carney, the new Canadian Prime minister.

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Speaker 3: He was announcing new economic ties with China this week,

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Speaker 3: including bringing Chinese electric vehicles to Canada. Looked like he

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Speaker 3: was getting chummy there with the Chinese, and some people

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Speaker 3: have attributed this to our rocky relations with China here

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Speaker 3: in the United States. What did you make of the

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Speaker 3: Canadian Prime minister looking like he wanted to be friends

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Speaker 3: and friendlier with China, especially as we out our own

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Speaker 3: relations with Canada here between them and the Trump administration. Oh,

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Speaker 3: looks like we may have lost Jamal's feed. All right,

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Speaker 3: Guys in the booth we got Jamal or we're gonna

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Speaker 3: have to get him back here, all right, may need

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Speaker 3: to get him back. So the story, the story I'm

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Speaker 3: referencing is this week Mark Carney met with Chinese officials

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Speaker 3: and Carney was rather chummy with the head of China's

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Speaker 3: Ji Jimping, and he talked about opening the door to

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Speaker 3: more electric vehicles coming in. He talked about considerable a

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Speaker 3: Chinese investment in Canada's auto sector, and Carney told reporters,

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Speaker 3: quote in terms of the way that our relationship has

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Speaker 3: progressed in recent months with China, it is more predictable.

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Speaker 3: So he was talking about being more friendly with China

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Speaker 3: than he is or wants to be with the United States.

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Speaker 3: We've got Jamiale Jaffer, national security expert. Back on the question,

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Speaker 3: sir is what do you make of the Canadian Prime

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Speaker 3: Minister Carnee buddying up with the Chinese on a number

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Speaker 3: of fronts this week?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Sorry with this guy, Yeah, I me, it's outrageous.

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Speaker 13: I mean, is crazier for the Canaves to think that

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Speaker 13: the Chinese are a reliable partner.

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Speaker 2: The Chines are not a reliable partner.

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Speaker 3: They are not. Uh oh, It's like Jamil is having

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Speaker 3: some issues with his with his internet connection there as

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Speaker 3: we talk to him. That's Jamil Jaffer. By the way,

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Speaker 3: I've known Jamil for a long time. He and I

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Speaker 3: worked in the Bush White House together years and years

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Speaker 3: and years ago. He's been one of the top national

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Speaker 3: security lawyers and national security advisors in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 3: It's why I invited him on the show today. Tell

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Speaker 3: you what, let's do this. Let's work on getting Jamil

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Speaker 3: back on the horn here. We'll bring him back for

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Speaker 3: the next segment because there's so many other topics that

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Speaker 3: we need to discuss. We got to talk about Taiwan.

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Speaker 3: We had the administration announcing a big trade deal with Taiwan.

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Speaker 3: How that might impact the US relations with China. We

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Speaker 3: got to talk about Greenland. The President made some comments

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Speaker 3: on the south lawn of the White House today about Greenland.

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Speaker 3: We want to talk about that. We're still talking about Venezuela.

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Speaker 3: Yesterday in the News, President Trump met with Machado, who

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Speaker 3: is the opposition leader from Venezuela, the freedom fighter who

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Speaker 3: actually won the Nobel Peace Prize this year. Machado and

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Speaker 3: Trump had thrown some cold water on the prospects of

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Speaker 3: Machado returning to Venezuela as the new leader of that country.

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Speaker 3: But they did meet for a couple of hours in

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Speaker 3: the White House late yesterday, and Machado actually presented Trump

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Speaker 3: with her own Nobel Peace Prize. She gave it to Trump.

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Speaker 3: She said Trump deserved it. He accepted that gift from Machado.

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Speaker 3: So we're going to want to talk about what that

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Speaker 3: might mean for the future of Venezuela. And I want

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Speaker 3: to hear from Jamil about how he thinks the next

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Speaker 3: short term, medium term, long term prospects for elections in

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Speaker 3: venezuel are going to go. So we'll get Jamil back

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Speaker 3: on the line and continue this national security conversation in

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Speaker 3: just a moment for common sense for the American people.

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Speaker 3: Scott Jennings here with you on Salem, and we've got

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Speaker 3: our friend, national security expert Jamil Jaffer back on the line.

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Speaker 3: Let's listen Jamiel to the President. He just made some

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Speaker 3: comments on the south lawn of the White House about Greenland.

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Speaker 3: As you know, the President thinks we should own and

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Speaker 3: control Greenland. It's cut thirty. Let's hear from Donald Trump.

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Speaker 11: Well, we're going to see data has been dealing with

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Speaker 11: US Greenland. We need Gleenland's the national security very badly.

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Speaker 4: If we don't have it, we have a big hole

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Speaker 4: in theNational security, especially when it comes to what we're

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Speaker 4: doing in terms of the Golden Doblin, Dola the other things.

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Speaker 4: We have a lot of a lot of investments in military.

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Speaker 4: We have got the strongest military in the world that

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Speaker 4: is only getting stronger.

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Speaker 11: And you saw that with Venezuela. You saw that with

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Speaker 11: the Bacho to run.

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Speaker 4: He knocking out there nuclear capabilities to take you. So, yeah,

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Speaker 4: we're gonna we're talking to day.

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Speaker 9: We are.

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Speaker 3: Jamil. The President met with the Danish foreign minister this

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Speaker 3: week and the people from Greenland, and you know, the

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Speaker 3: daylight appeared to open up after those chants this week

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Speaker 3: with Vice President Vance and Secretary of State Rubio. What

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Speaker 3: do you make of the President's comments this morning? And

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Speaker 3: do we need Greenland? Is the President right?

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Speaker 2: I think the President one hundred percent right.

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Speaker 13: You know, the US has tried to buy or obtain

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Speaker 13: Greenland four times.

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Speaker 2: Since the eighteen seventies. We did in eighteen seventy two.

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Speaker 13: Nineteen ten, nineteen forties about for one hundred million dollars

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Speaker 13: in gold.

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Speaker 2: So we've known the importance of Greenland, and in this

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Speaker 2: era where.

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Speaker 13: China's the adversary, rushes the adversary, we've got to worry

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Speaker 13: about the Arctic and all the capabilities and opportunities of

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Speaker 13: Artic presents. There's no question that if we had Greenland

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Speaker 13: we'd be much better off. Now, how do we go

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Speaker 13: about getting it? We got to figure out how to

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Speaker 13: get to a deal with Denmark. We're probably not going

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Speaker 13: to try to go to war with the NATO country,

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Speaker 13: So question is how do you work this out. President

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Speaker 13: Trump's moving on maximum pressure to get it done.

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Speaker 2: We'll see if it works. That's the goal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you. I think the Greenland play makes

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Speaker 3: a lot of sense Historically, you know, William Seward wanted

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Speaker 3: it a secretary of State under Lincoln. Harry Truman tried

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Speaker 3: to buy it. We bought stuff from Denmark before we

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Speaker 3: bought the Virgin Islands, I think in World War One

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Speaker 3: for strategic reason. So it's not unprecedented to try to

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Speaker 3: make a deal on something like this. So we'll see

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Speaker 3: what the president can do. Let's shift talk to Venezuela.

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Speaker 3: The President met with Machado yesterday, the opposition leader, the

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Speaker 3: Nobel Prize winner. He had previously thrown cold water on

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Speaker 3: the prospects of her returning and taking power in Venezuela.

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Speaker 3: Seemed to be some thawing between those two at the

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Speaker 3: White House because she gave him her Nobel Prize, which

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Speaker 3: the President did accept. What is your view on what

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Speaker 3: Venezuelan leadership should and will look like in the short

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Speaker 3: term and then over the next six to twelve to

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Speaker 3: eighteen months.

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Speaker 13: Well, look, obviously, you know, we don't have the information

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Speaker 13: the president has about what's going on in Venezuela who

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Speaker 13: the right leader is. But I'll say this, it is surprising,

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Speaker 13: I think, to probably a lot of us who saw

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Speaker 13: Maduro being a problem, that his vice president is now.

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Speaker 2: In charge Delsea Rodriguez.

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Speaker 13: Now, maybe she's client and we'll be able to work

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Speaker 13: with her, she'll do what we want to do. But

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Speaker 13: I think everyone's sort of assumption going in was, if

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Speaker 13: you're taking out Maduro, the person you're putting in place

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Speaker 13: is the properly elected leader of Venezuela, the opposition leader,

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Speaker 13: Maria Karina Machado. Now remember she wasn't actually elected her

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Speaker 13: her proxy was elected.