1 00:00:01,050 --> 00:00:30,770 Speaker 1: Welcome back to The Real Deal Podcast with Abby Johnson, 2 00:00:31,090 --> 00:00:35,989 Speaker 1: and Reagan Long, where we deliver nothing but the real 3 00:00:36,050 --> 00:00:39,169 Speaker 1: deal to y'all, completely unfiltered. 4 00:00:39,850 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: Here we are, a little late. We're sorry, but it's 5 00:00:43,130 --> 00:00:45,860 Speaker 2: just who we are. Hey, we're only. 6 00:00:46,300 --> 00:00:51,379 Speaker 1: A week in between podcasts. This is actually not terrible. 7 00:00:52,020 --> 00:00:56,260 Speaker 2: It's not. Look, It's just who we are, okay? And 8 00:00:56,660 --> 00:00:59,550 Speaker 2: if you follow us, you just know this is what 9 00:00:59,590 --> 00:01:00,380 Speaker 2: you get, okay? 10 00:01:00,420 --> 00:01:01,950 Speaker 1: We're fighting for our lives. 11 00:01:01,970 --> 00:01:06,910 Speaker 2: We're fighting for our lives. I have to help coach 12 00:01:07,209 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: a football game tonight. Stop it. I am. And I'm 13 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: ready and prepared for it. I have my clipboard. I 14 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,500 Speaker 2: have my jersey that says Coach Mom on the back. 15 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:27,740 Speaker 2: I'm like... So ready. I'm so excited. So we have like, 16 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: you know, we have all these teams. 17 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: Right. 18 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,050 Speaker 2: And then the fifth and sixth grade have a team. 19 00:01:33,670 --> 00:01:35,390 Speaker 2: Seventh and eighth grade have a team. I, of course, 20 00:01:35,450 --> 00:01:37,850 Speaker 2: have kids on both teams. 21 00:01:38,650 --> 00:01:39,010 Speaker 1: Right. 22 00:01:39,190 --> 00:01:43,970 Speaker 2: And Doug is generally the coach for both teams. 23 00:01:44,190 --> 00:01:45,130 Speaker 1: Right. Right. 24 00:01:45,170 --> 00:01:51,310 Speaker 2: Well, the teams usually play the same school. So it's 25 00:01:51,330 --> 00:01:52,550 Speaker 2: not a big deal. Like we're just. 26 00:01:52,590 --> 00:01:52,790 Speaker 3: Yeah. 27 00:01:53,260 --> 00:01:57,950 Speaker 2: At the same place. Well, tonight or whatever reason they had, 28 00:01:57,970 --> 00:02:00,830 Speaker 2: they're playing different teams at different places. 29 00:02:01,570 --> 00:02:01,710 Speaker 3: Yeah. 30 00:02:01,750 --> 00:02:06,430 Speaker 2: And so Doug was like, babe, I need you to 31 00:02:06,510 --> 00:02:09,290 Speaker 2: step up. I need you to step in and like 32 00:02:09,310 --> 00:02:13,310 Speaker 2: help coach the fifth and sixth grade gaming. He's not 33 00:02:13,330 --> 00:02:17,070 Speaker 2: going to be there. Oh my God. Your girl is 34 00:02:17,130 --> 00:02:20,709 Speaker 2: a coach tonight. Okay. Oh, I love it. I don't 35 00:02:21,070 --> 00:02:23,150 Speaker 2: know enough about football to be a coach. 36 00:02:23,290 --> 00:02:26,210 Speaker 1: So that's a little bit shocking as your best friend. 37 00:02:26,270 --> 00:02:29,530 Speaker 1: I love you because our talks in the past about football, 38 00:02:30,190 --> 00:02:32,810 Speaker 1: like Abby would be cute. Not that I know that 39 00:02:32,850 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: much about football, but I know a decent amount with, 40 00:02:37,700 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: you know, my, my 16 year old Caden playing for 41 00:02:42,060 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: so long and I'm a massive Buffalo bills, like a diver. 42 00:02:46,340 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 3: Right. 43 00:02:46,500 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: And I've been, a Bills fan for about 20 years now. 44 00:02:49,530 --> 00:02:52,169 Speaker 1: And so it's cute. Like Abby every season will kind 45 00:02:52,230 --> 00:02:55,270 Speaker 1: of be like, oh, I was out to eat or 46 00:02:55,310 --> 00:02:57,310 Speaker 1: something and I saw the Bills and I saw you. 47 00:02:57,410 --> 00:02:58,109 Speaker 2: I thought of you. 48 00:02:58,290 --> 00:03:01,230 Speaker 1: Like that's like Abby's like as far as she goes, 49 00:03:01,310 --> 00:03:02,270 Speaker 1: usually with football. 50 00:03:03,130 --> 00:03:05,330 Speaker 2: I don't think you've ever watched a game with me. 51 00:03:05,570 --> 00:03:08,950 Speaker 2: Like I don't think we've ever like watched football together. 52 00:03:08,990 --> 00:03:13,630 Speaker 2: I don't think you've ever like gotten the Abby Johnson 53 00:03:13,690 --> 00:03:15,149 Speaker 2: football experience. I haven't. 54 00:03:15,810 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: I'm excited. So I'm trying to picture you. I'm not 55 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,620 Speaker 1: sure if you know, this is actually super controversial and 56 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,450 Speaker 1: I'm not sure where you would stand on this. Have 57 00:03:25,490 --> 00:03:29,430 Speaker 1: you seen the mom on Instagram, TikTok, everywhere? Her name 58 00:03:29,510 --> 00:03:34,430 Speaker 1: is Tia and her husband is like a varsity high 59 00:03:34,470 --> 00:03:37,210 Speaker 1: school coach. Like she's been featured. She has like over 60 00:03:37,250 --> 00:03:40,300 Speaker 1: a million followers. She's been featured on People, like all 61 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:45,570 Speaker 1: the things. She is this, she's very beautiful, like dark skin. She. 62 00:03:47,630 --> 00:03:51,250 Speaker 1: Is a cancer survivor. She's always loved to dance. And like, 63 00:03:51,330 --> 00:03:54,010 Speaker 1: you know, like people that do silly TikToks dancing, like 64 00:03:54,130 --> 00:03:57,770 Speaker 1: she's good. Like she can just be doing something goofy 65 00:03:58,110 --> 00:03:59,730 Speaker 1: and yet she has rhythm, right? 66 00:03:59,790 --> 00:04:01,130 Speaker 2: Okay. 67 00:04:01,730 --> 00:04:07,150 Speaker 1: Really, really good. But she's always trending and extremely controversial. 68 00:04:07,190 --> 00:04:08,810 Speaker 1: People love her or hate her. So you and I 69 00:04:08,870 --> 00:04:15,450 Speaker 1: understand that. But, and her two oldest boys, are sought 70 00:04:15,610 --> 00:04:18,969 Speaker 1: out by every D1 school in the country. They are 71 00:04:19,089 --> 00:04:22,260 Speaker 1: incredible athletes. And what you also will love about her, Abby, 72 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,420 Speaker 1: her oldest son, they don't allow their kids to have 73 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:26,980 Speaker 1: cell phones. 74 00:04:27,700 --> 00:04:29,140 Speaker 2: Oh, I love that. Yeah. 75 00:04:29,300 --> 00:04:31,820 Speaker 1: And when her oldest son, I think it was his 76 00:04:32,180 --> 00:04:35,820 Speaker 1: 16th birthday or 17th maybe, they got him a flip 77 00:04:35,910 --> 00:04:39,130 Speaker 1: phone only so he could take his D1 coach calls 78 00:04:39,589 --> 00:04:43,450 Speaker 1: from his flip phone. And he was so grateful. 79 00:04:43,470 --> 00:04:43,930 Speaker 2: They're a very. 80 00:04:44,500 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: They're Mormons. Okay. And they're devout in their faith. But anyways, 81 00:04:52,100 --> 00:04:55,460 Speaker 1: at every football game, like a lot of people say, 82 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: she's just too much. She's narcissistic. She would be a 83 00:04:58,900 --> 00:05:02,980 Speaker 1: turnoff to all these D1 schools. Like the coaches would 84 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,820 Speaker 1: be like, as much as we want your kid, we 85 00:05:05,870 --> 00:05:06,550 Speaker 1: don't want this. 86 00:05:06,670 --> 00:05:08,789 Speaker 2: We don't want the mom. We don't want the mom. 87 00:05:08,850 --> 00:05:11,529 Speaker 1: But then there's other people who are like, oh, because 88 00:05:11,550 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: like the whole story, right? Like cancer survivor. She's been 89 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:20,630 Speaker 1: sickly tiny. She gained a lot of weight after her 90 00:05:20,710 --> 00:05:24,170 Speaker 1: treatments and then worked out. And she said dancing literally 91 00:05:24,190 --> 00:05:28,729 Speaker 1: helped save her life. But anyways, on the sidelines, she is, 92 00:05:28,910 --> 00:05:33,110 Speaker 1: as her husband is coaching, she is dancing on the sidelines. 93 00:05:33,210 --> 00:05:37,870 Speaker 1: And not anything promiscuous, like big jeans, big sweatshirt, but 94 00:05:38,029 --> 00:05:43,420 Speaker 1: it's a lot. She's a lot. And the people in 95 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: their hometown seem to really, really like her. Like people 96 00:05:46,980 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: are like, I went to high school with her. This 97 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:51,430 Speaker 1: is who she is. Like people in the town are like, 98 00:05:51,670 --> 00:05:54,310 Speaker 1: our boys love it. Like the boys, the high school 99 00:05:54,330 --> 00:05:56,470 Speaker 1: boys aren't like, oh my gosh, this is too much. 100 00:05:57,089 --> 00:05:59,810 Speaker 1: They seem to really like it. But there are a 101 00:05:59,850 --> 00:06:04,670 Speaker 1: lot of male coaches coming out and people saying like, 102 00:06:05,310 --> 00:06:08,390 Speaker 1: please stop. You're hurting your son's opportunity. Like this is 103 00:06:08,430 --> 00:06:13,950 Speaker 1: just way too much. And to be honest, I'm slightly 104 00:06:14,130 --> 00:06:18,620 Speaker 1: split on it because I can kind of see it 105 00:06:18,660 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: both ways, you know? 106 00:06:20,020 --> 00:06:20,099 Speaker 2: Yeah. 107 00:06:21,180 --> 00:06:27,730 Speaker 1: And I know for me, just even sometimes, just, you know, 108 00:06:28,230 --> 00:06:31,150 Speaker 1: like all the kids' friends are always around, like in 109 00:06:31,190 --> 00:06:33,450 Speaker 1: our house and whatever. And I even know like if 110 00:06:33,510 --> 00:06:37,710 Speaker 1: the boys... even rag on Caden about me or his sisters. 111 00:06:38,010 --> 00:06:40,330 Speaker 1: He doesn't like it. He just wants it shut down. 112 00:06:40,450 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: He doesn't want attention. So I feel like I don't 113 00:06:45,210 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: think I could do that. But I also don't have 114 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: her confidence and I don't have her story. Do you 115 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,300 Speaker 1: know what I mean? I could see how it could 116 00:06:54,339 --> 00:06:58,340 Speaker 1: be like, whoa, is this chick trying to take all 117 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: the attention to her? Do you know what I mean? 118 00:07:00,300 --> 00:07:03,430 Speaker 2: It's a little bit- I don't know this woman at all. 119 00:07:03,529 --> 00:07:05,670 Speaker 2: I don't even know what you're talking about. So I'm 120 00:07:06,210 --> 00:07:07,770 Speaker 2: going to have to send you, I'm going to have 121 00:07:07,790 --> 00:07:10,500 Speaker 2: to say, but like, I guess the kind of thing 122 00:07:11,460 --> 00:07:16,380 Speaker 2: I'm thinking of a woman in particular that I know personally, 123 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:22,239 Speaker 2: who's like a friend of mine and she is, has 124 00:07:22,300 --> 00:07:27,490 Speaker 2: like kind of a big personality and she has all 125 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:33,550 Speaker 2: boys and she's raised, Phenomenal boys. 126 00:07:34,610 --> 00:07:34,810 Speaker 3: Yeah. 127 00:07:35,010 --> 00:07:39,890 Speaker 2: And I just think, like, I've never seen her at 128 00:07:39,930 --> 00:07:44,010 Speaker 2: games or anything, but our kids don't school together. But, like, 129 00:07:44,130 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 2: I could imagine that she's maybe a little bit like that. Right. 130 00:07:47,940 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: But I also think, like, people that know her would 131 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: probably be like, yeah, that's just her and she's so fun. Right. Like, whatever. 132 00:07:56,660 --> 00:07:58,860 Speaker 2: You know? Like, people would just be like, oh, yeah, 133 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 2: that's just our girl. 134 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: You know? 135 00:08:00,460 --> 00:08:04,090 Speaker 2: Like, that's just how she is. Yeah. Like, there's another 136 00:08:04,130 --> 00:08:09,730 Speaker 2: mom that I know that's, like, you know, I don't know. 137 00:08:09,830 --> 00:08:12,190 Speaker 2: I think it just kind of matters, like, I think 138 00:08:12,270 --> 00:08:15,130 Speaker 2: it just kind of matters, like, in your community. Like, 139 00:08:15,250 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 2: everybody just kind of has their own flair, you know? Yes. 140 00:08:18,620 --> 00:08:21,620 Speaker 2: And people just get to know that person for who 141 00:08:21,660 --> 00:08:22,180 Speaker 2: they are. 142 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 143 00:08:22,980 --> 00:08:25,900 Speaker 2: And I feel like these schools, I mean, when they 144 00:08:25,980 --> 00:08:29,820 Speaker 2: interview kids, like, they kind of interview the whole family, right? 145 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:29,940 Speaker 1: Yeah. 146 00:08:29,980 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm guessing. It's not like they're just interviewing an 18, 147 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:39,690 Speaker 2: 17 or 18-year-old. The whole family is coming. The parents 148 00:08:39,750 --> 00:08:43,740 Speaker 2: are coming. And so I would think the schools are 149 00:08:43,770 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 2: getting to know the mom as well. They kind of 150 00:08:47,510 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 2: know what's coming, I guess, with the kids. So they 151 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,780 Speaker 2: would get to know her story. I don't know. I 152 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:01,610 Speaker 2: can't imagine a school... would be like, we don't want 153 00:09:01,630 --> 00:09:04,429 Speaker 2: this kind of amazing talent because his mom is going 154 00:09:04,450 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 2: to be loud in the stands. Right. Especially in a 155 00:09:08,900 --> 00:09:12,940 Speaker 2: D1 school. I mean, in a D1 school, there's tens 156 00:09:12,980 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 2: of thousands of people in this thing. 157 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:16,540 Speaker 3: Right. 158 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,690 Speaker 2: It's not like Tia, whoever she is, is going to 159 00:09:19,710 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 2: be down on the sidelines. It's not in a D1 school. Right. 160 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 3: Right. 161 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,470 Speaker 1: So, and I think that's what people are thinking. 162 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:33,990 Speaker 2: Like, we're not talking about some little dinky, like, you know, 163 00:09:34,410 --> 00:09:36,130 Speaker 2: tiny school somewhere. 164 00:09:36,150 --> 00:09:36,930 Speaker 1: Like, the high school stadium. 165 00:09:37,150 --> 00:09:39,850 Speaker 2: Right. The high school. We're talking about, like, a D1 166 00:09:39,870 --> 00:09:43,030 Speaker 2: school is like Texas A & M University. Like, you 167 00:09:43,110 --> 00:09:48,450 Speaker 2: think some mom is down at, like, on the sidelines 168 00:09:48,510 --> 00:09:52,140 Speaker 2: at Texas A & M, like, Get it, son. Like, no, 169 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 2: they're up in the stands with all the rest of 170 00:09:54,740 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 2: the fans. 171 00:09:56,300 --> 00:09:56,469 Speaker 1: Right. 172 00:09:56,490 --> 00:10:00,370 Speaker 2: Like, there's 100,000 people at the game. Yeah. I think 173 00:10:00,470 --> 00:10:03,530 Speaker 2: A & M' s like, I would sign that kid, but 174 00:10:03,590 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: I don't like his mom. Like, you think they're actually 175 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:07,660 Speaker 2: thinking about that? Like. 176 00:10:08,780 --> 00:10:09,059 Speaker 1: Yeah. 177 00:10:09,140 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 2: No. 178 00:10:09,220 --> 00:10:11,420 Speaker 1: I mean, so I sent you the link on your phone. 179 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: I sent you her profile. You'll have to, you'll just 180 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:15,610 Speaker 1: have to watch her. 181 00:10:15,620 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 2: I still look at it. 182 00:10:16,820 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: She seems super cute. She seems very genuine. 183 00:10:19,780 --> 00:10:19,860 Speaker 3: Yeah. 184 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,740 Speaker 2: I think of the situation of like the internet thinking 185 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 2: they know so much, you know, like the internet. 186 00:10:29,700 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: Totally. 187 00:10:30,540 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 2: Like parenting other people's kids, like thinking they know best, 188 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,140 Speaker 2: they know better than a mom. 189 00:10:36,460 --> 00:10:36,700 Speaker 1: Right. 190 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: Like, or they know, you know, like everybody thinks they 191 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 2: need to insert their opinion about everything. 192 00:10:44,460 --> 00:10:48,980 Speaker 1: And, and again, you know, it is knowing her story too. And, and, 193 00:10:49,770 --> 00:10:51,740 Speaker 1: I just think she's handled it with such grace. 194 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 2: Oh, look, Abby's drinking. 195 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: Okay, you guys can't see this, but Abby's drinking her Coca-Cola. 196 00:10:57,660 --> 00:11:02,300 Speaker 1: I just threw my Pepsi can in the garbage. I 197 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,780 Speaker 1: feel better about myself when I drink minis. I've been 198 00:11:05,820 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: drinking this one all day. 199 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:11,650 Speaker 2: It's hot. I need to put it in some ice 200 00:11:11,730 --> 00:11:12,650 Speaker 2: or something. I put my. 201 00:11:12,550 --> 00:11:16,069 Speaker 1: Sodas in a wine glass with ice, and it just 202 00:11:16,110 --> 00:11:16,910 Speaker 1: tastes so much better. 203 00:11:16,950 --> 00:11:19,309 Speaker 2: It does taste better. It just looks fancy. 204 00:11:19,929 --> 00:11:23,220 Speaker 1: It tastes like a fancy i don't know exactly anyways 205 00:11:23,660 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: so we you know um but it's just like hey 206 00:11:27,260 --> 00:11:32,140 Speaker 1: what whatever you know dancing encouraging and then you really 207 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,430 Speaker 1: have to love their morals of protecting their children they 208 00:11:35,450 --> 00:11:38,410 Speaker 1: have a big family there's five or six kids and 209 00:11:38,670 --> 00:11:41,650 Speaker 1: you know i love how they protect them from social 210 00:11:41,710 --> 00:11:45,730 Speaker 1: media and you know the phones and all of the 211 00:11:45,770 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: craziness um But yeah, so it's really interesting. So anyways, 212 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:50,700 Speaker 1: you'll have to report to us. 213 00:11:51,100 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 2: I'll have to report back. 214 00:11:51,780 --> 00:11:52,620 Speaker 1: How Coach Abby was. 215 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 2: I'll have to report back. Yeah, I'll have to report back. 216 00:11:55,220 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 2: I have my clipboard ready. And I'm going to figure 217 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 2: out the plays of the other team because we're going 218 00:12:03,460 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 2: to rock this game. So I'm pretty pumped. 219 00:12:08,780 --> 00:12:11,100 Speaker 1: So, you know, Abby and I were talking last night 220 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: and she was like, Reg, she sent me something and- 221 00:12:16,309 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: She's like, I think we need to talk about it. 222 00:12:18,530 --> 00:12:21,580 Speaker 1: And I honestly, it's one of those things where when 223 00:12:21,620 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: I opened the link and I read it, I literally, 224 00:12:24,540 --> 00:12:27,980 Speaker 1: tears filled my eyes. And it's almost like, are we 225 00:12:28,020 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: really here? Like, this is where we're at. And the article, 226 00:12:35,820 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: the breaking news that Abby had sent me was, Dutch 227 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:46,860 Speaker 1: officials say first toddler euthanized under new state law. was 228 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: quote-unquote handled well. I mean, and this is what we 229 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:06,230 Speaker 1: talk about, the dangers when everyone thinks that, oh, you know, abortion, 230 00:13:06,309 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: it's not murder, it's love and grace and it's reproductive freedom. 231 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,580 Speaker 1: And so when we start towing the line with these things, oh, 232 00:13:15,700 --> 00:13:20,530 Speaker 1: and Being euthanized. Oh, it's for just old people suffering. 233 00:13:21,380 --> 00:13:24,479 Speaker 1: It's just for the elderly. And then it's for the 234 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 1: beautiful young, you know, early 20s girl who was suffering 235 00:13:29,100 --> 00:13:32,490 Speaker 1: from mental illness. And now here we are. 236 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,540 Speaker 2: We're a toddler? I mean. 237 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:36,099 Speaker 1: Yeah. 238 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,350 Speaker 2: It's really... I mean, it's really... The article, like when 239 00:13:39,390 --> 00:13:44,510 Speaker 2: you read the article, it's like, wow. So... I think 240 00:13:44,550 --> 00:13:50,179 Speaker 2: the baby was like two or something. And baby was 241 00:13:50,260 --> 00:13:54,699 Speaker 2: born at 26 weeks. Mm-hmm. Which, I mean, one of 242 00:13:54,780 --> 00:13:58,380 Speaker 2: our friends, Karen, her twins were born at 26 weeks. Right. 243 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 2: And had cerebral palsy. 244 00:14:02,980 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: Mm-hmm. 245 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 2: And the parents decided that because it had been, the 246 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:17,890 Speaker 2: doctors had determined that this child would not probably survive 247 00:14:18,170 --> 00:14:24,420 Speaker 2: into adulthood, right? And had, you know, medical complications like CP, 248 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 2: that the best thing to do would be to kill 249 00:14:29,020 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 2: the child. Now, it didn't say, it did not say 250 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 2: how the child was killed. So it didn't say if 251 00:14:37,500 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 2: it was through, like, medicine or did they, like, withhold 252 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:47,870 Speaker 2: some sort of medical care or that was not detailed out, 253 00:14:47,970 --> 00:14:49,870 Speaker 2: but it just said that it was. 254 00:14:50,930 --> 00:14:53,750 Speaker 1: Apparently, apparently it was handled well. 255 00:14:53,870 --> 00:14:56,050 Speaker 2: It was handled well, however it was done. 256 00:14:56,730 --> 00:14:59,230 Speaker 1: How do you even? Yes. And so, I mean, Abby, you, 257 00:14:59,310 --> 00:15:02,020 Speaker 1: you is, I'm looking at the article and you're not, 258 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:06,820 Speaker 1: I mean, you listed everything perfectly. Yeah. So just like 259 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,100 Speaker 1: you had said, the doctors predicted the child would not 260 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: live to adulthood and Therefore, killing the two-year-old was the 261 00:15:13,460 --> 00:15:19,540 Speaker 1: best choice, quote unquote, for care. I mean, I just. 262 00:15:19,580 --> 00:15:22,470 Speaker 2: I mean, killing for care. Killing for care. 263 00:15:22,900 --> 00:15:29,750 Speaker 1: So that just opens the door for, well, geez, I mean, 264 00:15:29,990 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: all these children with CP, all these kids with epilepsy. Heck, 265 00:15:34,630 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: what about all the children with terminal cancer? Do we 266 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: just kill them all? 267 00:15:39,550 --> 00:15:43,620 Speaker 2: Is that love? It's really scary because it's one thing 268 00:15:43,740 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 2: to be like, it's one thing to say, okay, euthanasia. 269 00:15:48,700 --> 00:15:54,020 Speaker 2: It's one thing to say, I'm going to choose to die. 270 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:55,220 Speaker 1: Okay? 271 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 2: Like, which I also think that's wrong. Okay. But like, 272 00:15:59,470 --> 00:16:03,950 Speaker 2: I think to elicit someone else in hastening your death 273 00:16:04,050 --> 00:16:07,750 Speaker 2: is wrong. I think... Oh, man, I think killing yourself 274 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,790 Speaker 2: is wrong, period. But, I mean, I'm just saying, like, 275 00:16:10,790 --> 00:16:13,910 Speaker 2: it's like you are contracting someone to help kill yourself. 276 00:16:14,330 --> 00:16:20,610 Speaker 2: So you're bringing someone else into, you know, into your sinfulness. 277 00:16:20,670 --> 00:16:24,710 Speaker 2: So that in itself is wrong. That's problematic, right? 278 00:16:25,090 --> 00:16:25,890 Speaker 1: Right. 279 00:16:26,790 --> 00:16:30,390 Speaker 2: But now this is, like, a step further because now 280 00:16:31,510 --> 00:16:35,950 Speaker 2: we're not just doing this to ourselves. We're not just saying, okay— 281 00:16:37,130 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 2: now I want to kill myself, now we're imposing our 282 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:48,660 Speaker 2: will on other people, which is the exact design of abortion, right? Exactly. 283 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,900 Speaker 2: That's the exact design of abortion. So this is essentially 284 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 2: abortion after birth. So this is the parents deciding now, 285 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:03,450 Speaker 2: after birth, I get to impose my will on you. 286 00:17:04,350 --> 00:17:08,050 Speaker 2: I get to decide... that you don't have the freedom 287 00:17:08,170 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 2: to live anymore, right? And that has been, like what 288 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:17,100 Speaker 2: you said, kind of the slippery slope. That's what people 289 00:17:17,140 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 2: have been saying. That's what conservatives, that's what Christians, that's 290 00:17:21,530 --> 00:17:24,510 Speaker 2: what the Catholic Church has been saying for years, that 291 00:17:24,690 --> 00:17:29,210 Speaker 2: if you begin to impose your will, which is literally 292 00:17:29,250 --> 00:17:33,260 Speaker 2: the definition of oppression— If you begin to impose your 293 00:17:33,340 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 2: will on another person when that person's freedom ends because 294 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:45,220 Speaker 2: you've decided your rights supersede the rights of that other person, 295 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:51,380 Speaker 2: when that begins to happen, that is oppression. That's why 296 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 2: slavery took place. That's why the Holocaust took place. That's 297 00:17:54,140 --> 00:17:58,110 Speaker 2: why these things happen because a larger group of people, 298 00:17:58,570 --> 00:18:02,109 Speaker 2: more powerful group of people said, Your rights are over. 299 00:18:02,410 --> 00:18:07,530 Speaker 2: My rights now supersede your rights. That's exactly what's happening here. 300 00:18:07,590 --> 00:18:09,910 Speaker 2: That's what's happened with abortion. That's what's happening with this. 301 00:18:10,450 --> 00:18:12,899 Speaker 2: So it's one thing to say, I don't want to 302 00:18:12,940 --> 00:18:14,780 Speaker 2: live anymore and I'm going to make the decision not 303 00:18:14,820 --> 00:18:19,260 Speaker 2: to live anymore. It's totally different to say, I don't 304 00:18:19,300 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 2: want you to live anymore. And I'm going to take 305 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 2: your life and there's nothing that you can do about it. 306 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:32,900 Speaker 2: It's so sick. And I mean, who's next, right? 307 00:19:01,450 --> 00:19:06,050 Speaker 1: Amongst mothers. We're seeing tens of thousands of women filming 308 00:19:06,090 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: themselves crying. Me too, Lindsay, because their baby's not sleeping 309 00:19:11,540 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: through the night and they're a stay at home mom 310 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:17,900 Speaker 1: and they're tired and their, their baby's colicky or their baby, 311 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:25,350 Speaker 1: you know, I, whatever it might be. Everything, everything like this, 312 00:19:25,430 --> 00:19:30,700 Speaker 1: these monumental evil things, they hold such power. It's like 313 00:19:30,740 --> 00:19:35,619 Speaker 1: a massive snowball that seems to, do you know what 314 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:39,540 Speaker 1: I mean? Literally, it's like an avalanche that begins to 315 00:19:39,619 --> 00:19:45,170 Speaker 1: run because people then can justify their insanity, their evil, 316 00:19:46,670 --> 00:19:49,970 Speaker 1: their feelings of depression and exhaustion. 317 00:19:50,260 --> 00:19:50,490 Speaker 2: Right? 318 00:19:50,580 --> 00:19:55,820 Speaker 1: You and I have both experienced depression and exhaustion. And like, man, 319 00:19:56,020 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: I mean, look in the Bible how many people were 320 00:20:00,900 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: crying out to God, hungry, exhausted, depressed, Lord, just take 321 00:20:05,540 --> 00:20:09,730 Speaker 1: me now. I mean, it's I feel we've all had 322 00:20:09,790 --> 00:20:14,910 Speaker 1: those moments, but this, this is such a dangerous line. 323 00:20:15,330 --> 00:20:18,930 Speaker 1: And Abby is shocked as I am the way we 324 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:25,580 Speaker 1: treat life, the human dignity of life and where we're 325 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:29,580 Speaker 1: at with abortion. I mean, this really shouldn't be shocking 326 00:20:29,619 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: to people, I suppose. 327 00:20:31,580 --> 00:20:32,100 Speaker 3: Yeah. 328 00:20:32,580 --> 00:20:35,980 Speaker 1: Because again, as we always talk about these things, whatever, whatever, 329 00:20:36,730 --> 00:20:41,780 Speaker 1: Whatever situation we're addressing, Abby, it seems like there's been 330 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:47,700 Speaker 1: this social conditioning built around it. So the shock factor 331 00:20:47,740 --> 00:20:52,010 Speaker 1: for a lot of people is like, oh, wow, amazing 332 00:20:52,050 --> 00:20:56,290 Speaker 1: for that family. They put that baby out of its misery. 333 00:20:56,390 --> 00:20:59,630 Speaker 2: Well, good. Well, and it was, I mean, it was 334 00:20:59,670 --> 00:21:01,939 Speaker 2: the parents that made the decision. So, I mean, the 335 00:21:01,980 --> 00:21:04,970 Speaker 2: correlation with Clancy is there. I mean, it is kind 336 00:21:05,010 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 2: of striking because it is the parents that made the decision. 337 00:21:08,820 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 2: We don't want to be burdened by this child anymore. 338 00:21:14,460 --> 00:21:17,859 Speaker 2: So we're going to now go to the medical community 339 00:21:18,220 --> 00:21:25,740 Speaker 2: to justify why we should not be encumbered by the 340 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:30,830 Speaker 2: life of this child anymore, right? Shockingly similar to to 341 00:21:30,930 --> 00:21:36,780 Speaker 2: what happened with Lindsay Clancy murdering her children. She made 342 00:21:36,820 --> 00:21:41,740 Speaker 2: the decision, I am going to kill my children. And 343 00:21:41,780 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 2: then the defense went to the medical community to justify 344 00:21:47,859 --> 00:21:51,260 Speaker 2: why she did what she did. Oh, it was post-traumatic depression. 345 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,419 Speaker 2: It was her medication. It was blah, blah, blah. 346 00:21:54,420 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: I mean, okay. 347 00:21:58,490 --> 00:22:00,890 Speaker 2: Hundreds of thousands of women have been diagnosed with postpartum 348 00:22:00,910 --> 00:22:04,659 Speaker 2: depression and have not strangled their children. Yeah. Hundreds of 349 00:22:04,710 --> 00:22:09,020 Speaker 2: thousands of people have been put on Lexapro or amitriptyline 350 00:22:09,180 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 2: and have not strangled their children, chased their children down 351 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:17,419 Speaker 2: the hallway and strangled their children. But they go to 352 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:25,830 Speaker 2: the medical community to justify their brutal treatment. Decision-making, they're 353 00:22:25,869 --> 00:22:31,210 Speaker 2: abhorrent decision-making, right? They're abhorrent behavior. So that is so 354 00:22:31,310 --> 00:22:35,070 Speaker 2: common nowadays. So, I mean, what's going to be next, right? 355 00:22:35,190 --> 00:22:36,250 Speaker 2: I mean, it's like... Well. 356 00:22:36,350 --> 00:22:37,990 Speaker 1: It's all about validation, Abby. 357 00:22:38,290 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 2: It's validation for our sin. It's justifying this bad behavior. 358 00:22:41,450 --> 00:22:47,340 Speaker 1: It's validation for our sin, for our selfishness. So there's less... 359 00:22:48,100 --> 00:22:53,909 Speaker 1: So it takes less of the... The guilt and the shame. 360 00:22:53,950 --> 00:22:57,190 Speaker 2: The responsibility. It's the same with the trans community. It's 361 00:22:57,210 --> 00:22:59,490 Speaker 2: the same with the trans community. It's like, you know, 362 00:23:00,290 --> 00:23:02,490 Speaker 2: it's like school shootings, right? I mean, so many of 363 00:23:02,550 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 2: these school shootings are led by people that are struggling 364 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 2: with gender dysphoria or gender identity problems, right? 365 00:23:10,580 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 366 00:23:10,940 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 2: But it's like the medical community is like, well, but 367 00:23:14,540 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 2: they had gender identity problems. No, they were freaking sickos, okay? Like, 368 00:23:20,619 --> 00:23:23,270 Speaker 2: that's the problem. It's nothing to do with their gender 369 00:23:23,350 --> 00:23:26,710 Speaker 2: identity or whatever, like they were sick. But here comes 370 00:23:26,750 --> 00:23:31,260 Speaker 2: the medical community to try to justify whatever was going on. 371 00:23:31,730 --> 00:23:35,980 Speaker 2: And that's where the problem is. We're allowing people to 372 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:40,660 Speaker 2: stick mental illness or whatever on any sort of thing. 373 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:45,140 Speaker 2: And even with these parents, I'm sure, I am confident, 374 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,010 Speaker 2: even though I haven't seen the records, I'm confident. that 375 00:23:48,670 --> 00:23:55,510 Speaker 2: the medical community that allowed these parents to maliciously kill 376 00:23:55,590 --> 00:23:59,030 Speaker 2: their two-year-old child because the child had cerebral palsy and 377 00:23:59,070 --> 00:24:02,790 Speaker 2: whatever other conditions that this baby had, I'm sure that 378 00:24:02,830 --> 00:24:06,130 Speaker 2: they said that it was in the parents' best interest 379 00:24:06,310 --> 00:24:09,100 Speaker 2: mentally to kill their child. I'm sure that they said 380 00:24:09,140 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 2: that these parents were under duress and experiencing distress because 381 00:24:14,980 --> 00:24:17,700 Speaker 2: of you know, the medical problems that the child had. 382 00:24:17,820 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 2: I'm like a hundred percent confident that they use that 383 00:24:21,100 --> 00:24:24,110 Speaker 2: in their decision-making to allow the parents to kill their children. 384 00:24:24,869 --> 00:24:27,970 Speaker 2: I mean, it's like, it's like, and I'm saying this 385 00:24:28,230 --> 00:24:29,950 Speaker 2: as a licensed counselor. 386 00:24:29,990 --> 00:24:30,190 Speaker 1: Okay. 387 00:24:30,210 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 2: Like I'm saying this, it's like mental illness run amok. 388 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,060 Speaker 2: I mean, we're just going to start allowing anything. It's 389 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,060 Speaker 2: like the woman, it was like a week after the 390 00:24:41,100 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 2: Clancy trial hung her child in her basement. 391 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:45,220 Speaker 3: Yeah. 392 00:24:46,450 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 2: You know, and said, oh, well, she was going through 393 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,380 Speaker 2: postpartum depression or whatever. Like, are you kidding me? 394 00:24:53,619 --> 00:24:58,620 Speaker 1: Like, it's it's it creates an avalanche of of evil 395 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:03,869 Speaker 1: and sin. And and again, what's weird, Abby, like, do 396 00:25:03,890 --> 00:25:05,970 Speaker 1: you remember? I mean, we used to talk about this 397 00:25:06,030 --> 00:25:11,770 Speaker 1: years ago with especially especially when there was the massive spike. 398 00:25:11,990 --> 00:25:12,899 Speaker 1: What year was it? 399 00:25:12,970 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 2: Was it 2019 ish? 400 00:25:15,609 --> 00:25:18,949 Speaker 1: With a massive spike of transgenderism. I don't know what 401 00:25:18,990 --> 00:25:19,590 Speaker 1: year it was. 402 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:21,859 Speaker 2: It seems like it was in the COVID day. I 403 00:25:21,859 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 2: feel like it was around COVID. 404 00:25:23,260 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: It was around COVID when I feel like everyone just 405 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:26,820 Speaker 1: started losing their minds. 406 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:27,820 Speaker 2: Yeah. 407 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: But remember we talked about how it was just like, 408 00:25:31,140 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: it just became this epidemic. And I felt like there 409 00:25:36,020 --> 00:25:39,900 Speaker 1: were so many children who were just lost and lonely 410 00:25:39,940 --> 00:25:42,780 Speaker 1: and confused. And then it was like, oh. well, look 411 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: at all this attention so-and-so's getting because they think they're 412 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: something different than they are. You know, they're a little 413 00:25:48,300 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: boy and they think they're a girl and like they're 414 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: getting all this praise and attention. And so it's like, 415 00:25:54,720 --> 00:26:00,550 Speaker 1: it's just wild, the destruction that television and social media 416 00:26:00,970 --> 00:26:05,790 Speaker 1: and YouTube, you know, all of it, the internet can 417 00:26:05,830 --> 00:26:10,030 Speaker 1: do because it's got to be one of Satan's favorite weapons. 418 00:26:10,410 --> 00:26:13,609 Speaker 1: I mean, it can be used for such good And 419 00:26:13,650 --> 00:26:19,210 Speaker 1: it can be used for such evil, this infiltration, especially 420 00:26:19,930 --> 00:26:25,350 Speaker 1: against our children. And so it's just like, no matter 421 00:26:25,450 --> 00:26:30,690 Speaker 1: what it is, it's the biggest thing from the transgenderism, 422 00:26:31,050 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 1: from the school shootings, from abortion, from now murdering our 423 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: children is. 424 00:26:39,850 --> 00:26:44,050 Speaker 1: It's mental illness. And like you and I have also 425 00:26:44,170 --> 00:26:49,010 Speaker 1: always stated, we're not naive at all that we are 426 00:26:49,050 --> 00:26:52,770 Speaker 1: in such a battle of spiritual warfare. And I also 427 00:26:52,869 --> 00:26:58,550 Speaker 1: know that this type of evil and sin and a 428 00:26:58,590 --> 00:27:03,530 Speaker 1: lot of these horrifying things taking place, it seems as 429 00:27:03,650 --> 00:27:06,409 Speaker 1: if they could only be scenes from hell. And yet 430 00:27:06,450 --> 00:27:10,310 Speaker 1: we're seeing them played out on earth. And so I 431 00:27:10,350 --> 00:27:15,850 Speaker 1: don't care what you are, what you aren't. There is 432 00:27:16,130 --> 00:27:22,859 Speaker 1: absolutely such a spike in demonic activity. And that's why 433 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: it's so important about staying in a state of grace 434 00:27:27,340 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 1: and when you veer off to run back to it. Because, Abby, 435 00:27:31,940 --> 00:27:36,190 Speaker 1: it's like when Satan gets a foothold in your door, 436 00:27:36,930 --> 00:27:41,230 Speaker 1: it's like, man, he is going crazy. To kick it down? 437 00:27:41,250 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 2: And what? Oh, God. What? 438 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: Are you laughing or crying? 439 00:27:47,700 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 2: Your bone. Your bone. What? 440 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:56,460 Speaker 3: The way the light is on your head, it makes 441 00:27:56,540 --> 00:27:58,670 Speaker 3: it look like you have, like, a Karen. 442 00:27:58,850 --> 00:28:02,490 Speaker 1: Like, I'm so serious. 443 00:28:03,530 --> 00:28:07,310 Speaker 2: A what? Like a Karen? Like a weird Bob. Oh, 444 00:28:07,390 --> 00:28:08,570 Speaker 2: my God. Like, you're Karen. 445 00:28:09,450 --> 00:28:13,820 Speaker 1: Really and i just can't stop laughing oh my god 446 00:28:13,900 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: note to self don't get a bob. 447 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 3: Oh my god i like i don't have my phone 448 00:28:18,420 --> 00:28:20,330 Speaker 3: otherwise i would have taken a picture of it this 449 00:28:20,410 --> 00:28:23,350 Speaker 3: like makes me laugh it's just like right now it 450 00:28:23,390 --> 00:28:25,950 Speaker 3: looks like you have like a haircut like this. 451 00:28:26,030 --> 00:28:29,389 Speaker 2: Oh my god i love it oh my god anyway 452 00:28:29,430 --> 00:28:30,940 Speaker 2: i'm like what's happening. 453 00:28:32,330 --> 00:28:35,310 Speaker 1: As I'm talking about spiritual warfare. 454 00:28:34,730 --> 00:28:38,010 Speaker 2: And demonic activity. I'm trying to be off camera and laugh. 455 00:28:38,530 --> 00:28:43,260 Speaker 1: Abby's watching my hair in the sunlight. I have my 456 00:28:43,380 --> 00:28:46,100 Speaker 1: office at this time. Abby and I are recording late afternoon, 457 00:28:46,140 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: which we never do. And so the sun is like, 458 00:28:48,340 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: it's just like wild right now. So I'm looking rough 459 00:28:52,940 --> 00:28:53,540 Speaker 1: as it is. 460 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,500 Speaker 2: No, you're not. It looks like you have like a chinling. 461 00:28:57,780 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: It does. 462 00:28:58,540 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. And you're like going off on spiritual warfare. 463 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, girl. 464 00:29:05,420 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. I look like that guy I send you. That 465 00:29:09,140 --> 00:29:12,660 Speaker 1: guy who's always like, daddy God, who puts on the 466 00:29:12,700 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: Karen wig. I will tell you right now. Blake, it's 467 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: just so funny. Do you know the dude I'm talking about. 468 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,820 Speaker 2: That wears the Karen wig? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 469 00:29:23,860 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: He's like talking about spiritual warfare all the time. 470 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,570 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, speaking of spiritual warfare, I already told you 471 00:29:31,590 --> 00:29:33,860 Speaker 2: I'm going to be with Father Rippinger next weekend. So 472 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,150 Speaker 2: I'm planning on getting like a thousand exorcism prayers. 473 00:29:38,250 --> 00:29:42,980 Speaker 1: That's really good for me. listen, I'm not sure if 474 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: you know who I am. Just do a quick Google search. 475 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: Do you want to take a couple hours in the back? 476 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,100 Speaker 2: I'll just... Are you ready to curse me and send 477 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 2: some garlic? Because I got some stuff going on. Oh 478 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,500 Speaker 2: my gosh. Can you gather a team? Can you page 479 00:29:57,540 --> 00:30:02,230 Speaker 2: your team? What? I might start, like, spinning up nails 480 00:30:02,330 --> 00:30:05,430 Speaker 2: or something. Oh, my God, dude. We're going to find out. That's, like, 481 00:30:05,550 --> 00:30:08,530 Speaker 2: actually weird. Oh, my gosh. 482 00:30:09,310 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: No, I'm so jealous that you get to be with him. 483 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 2: I really am. 484 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:12,700 Speaker 3: I know. 485 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 2: I wish you would fly because you'd go with me. 486 00:30:14,820 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 2: It's like a Catholic women's conference. I want to be like, listen, 487 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:24,270 Speaker 2: me and you, side room. Listen. Call for backup. Holy water. 488 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,930 Speaker 2: It's that room. Get the rosary. Okay. Anyone have some 489 00:30:28,950 --> 00:30:33,060 Speaker 2: Mary statues? Whatever you have, pretty good. I don't know 490 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 2: what is going to come out during this session, but 491 00:30:36,820 --> 00:30:39,980 Speaker 2: you may want to get some bodyguards. Literally. 492 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: So be like, listen, Father, you think you've seen some stuff? 493 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:45,540 Speaker 3: Right. 494 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,540 Speaker 1: But it's like, in all seriousness, what Abby was talking 495 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:57,460 Speaker 1: about was, I think we take for granted that you know, 496 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,900 Speaker 1: of course we all sin. We just all sin differently. 497 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: And yet, you know, even we see it in the Bible, there's, 498 00:31:05,140 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: there's certain things where demons tend to cling to us. 499 00:31:10,140 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 500 00:31:10,820 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: Even if you're, you've stepped out of that sin, of course, 501 00:31:13,420 --> 00:31:16,900 Speaker 1: when you've, you know, you've repented and ask God for 502 00:31:16,940 --> 00:31:21,150 Speaker 1: his mercy and, you know, you're, you're rushing to confess 503 00:31:21,230 --> 00:31:23,870 Speaker 1: and get in the state of grace. It's just the 504 00:31:23,910 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: most beautiful gift. Uh, But I still think, you know, 505 00:31:28,940 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: there are some demons that still hang on without some 506 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,380 Speaker 1: like intense intervention. 507 00:31:37,980 --> 00:31:41,420 Speaker 2: Well, we're going to find out. We're going to find 508 00:31:41,500 --> 00:31:42,219 Speaker 2: out next weekend. 509 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: Well, and the other thing that's scary, Abby, and I 510 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:50,490 Speaker 1: told Abby this, I had met with like a Catholic 511 00:31:50,550 --> 00:31:53,110 Speaker 1: visionary a couple years ago, and she was just even 512 00:31:53,150 --> 00:31:57,590 Speaker 1: talking about what witches are able to do. Witches and, 513 00:31:57,610 --> 00:32:01,340 Speaker 1: I don't know, whatever, their whole group, they're called like 514 00:32:01,390 --> 00:32:05,239 Speaker 1: satanic people. They say, and even witches who have had 515 00:32:05,260 --> 00:32:08,060 Speaker 1: a conversion talk about this, all they need is a 516 00:32:08,260 --> 00:32:09,700 Speaker 1: picture of you and your first name. 517 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:10,670 Speaker 2: That's it. 518 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:18,930 Speaker 1: And they can literally past spells, hexes, curses, whatever. That's 519 00:32:18,970 --> 00:32:22,430 Speaker 1: why like spiritual warfare prayers. I actually got one of 520 00:32:22,450 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: Father Ripperger's last night. I have his book somewhere, which 521 00:32:25,410 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: everyone says is one of the most powerful books. I 522 00:32:28,300 --> 00:32:30,100 Speaker 1: don't know if you have it. It's like a tiny 523 00:32:30,180 --> 00:32:34,540 Speaker 1: black book and it's like his deliverance and spiritual warfare prayers. 524 00:32:34,620 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: I've actually, I've just got to pull it out and 525 00:32:36,900 --> 00:32:38,580 Speaker 1: probably should just carry it with me everywhere I go. 526 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,820 Speaker 1: But anyways, this woman had told me, so I can 527 00:32:42,860 --> 00:32:45,630 Speaker 1: only imagine you She's like, with how you are on 528 00:32:45,670 --> 00:32:49,290 Speaker 1: social media and how you upset so many people, oh, 529 00:32:50,390 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: she's like, there's a ton of hexes and curses against you. 530 00:32:53,910 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 1: And I'm like— Well, I knew. 531 00:32:55,300 --> 00:32:58,260 Speaker 2: I knew, like, a few years ago. I don't even remember. 532 00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: I knew. 533 00:32:58,580 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 2: I could feel, like, that at one point in time, 534 00:33:02,300 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 2: I was like, I feel like witches are cursing me. 535 00:33:06,100 --> 00:33:07,780 Speaker 2: And I could just feel it. And I knew it 536 00:33:07,820 --> 00:33:11,570 Speaker 2: was specifically witches. Like, I could feel it. 537 00:33:11,620 --> 00:33:12,510 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. 538 00:33:13,620 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 2: And I was like, I don't want to say that 539 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 2: out loud because people will think I'm like insane. But like, 540 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:25,650 Speaker 2: I could feel that it was like witches specifically. Wow. And, 541 00:33:26,660 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 2: but I like told Doug, you know, he was like, 542 00:33:29,180 --> 00:33:32,950 Speaker 2: I think like my wife is crazy. But, and then 543 00:33:32,990 --> 00:33:37,469 Speaker 2: it came out. I like found out that there was a, 544 00:33:38,050 --> 00:33:42,230 Speaker 2: specifically a coven of witches that had been like trying to, 545 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 2: like put curses on me. Wow. And I was like, 546 00:33:46,700 --> 00:33:50,930 Speaker 2: I was like, I freaking knew it. Like I, like 547 00:33:51,030 --> 00:33:56,090 Speaker 2: I knew it. And like, I just could like feel it. 548 00:33:56,750 --> 00:34:01,350 Speaker 2: So it's like so crazy, but it's like when you're, 549 00:34:01,370 --> 00:34:05,550 Speaker 2: I mean, there's just people when you're like doing God's work, 550 00:34:05,590 --> 00:34:09,890 Speaker 2: there's always going to be people actively trying to come 551 00:34:09,930 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 2: against you. I mean, that's just the way it is. 552 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 1: And I mean, and again, why should we like, even 553 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: when I talked about when I was going off social 554 00:34:18,700 --> 00:34:21,490 Speaker 1: media for a year and I felt like God was 555 00:34:21,570 --> 00:34:23,370 Speaker 1: asking me to do it and he wants to draw 556 00:34:23,410 --> 00:34:28,310 Speaker 1: me closer to him. And, you know, I said, I'm 557 00:34:28,350 --> 00:34:31,470 Speaker 1: not naive to the fact when God draws us closer 558 00:34:31,550 --> 00:34:36,250 Speaker 1: to him, that that usually means there is going to 559 00:34:36,290 --> 00:34:39,189 Speaker 1: be some suffering. There's going to be sacrifice. There's going 560 00:34:39,210 --> 00:34:42,210 Speaker 1: to be suffering. And even when I do get selfish 561 00:34:42,250 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 1: and throw little temper tantrums and think like, why, why? 562 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: It's like, I'm humbled so quickly when I think of 563 00:34:50,660 --> 00:34:53,340 Speaker 1: what Jesus went through and I'm asking, I have to 564 00:34:53,380 --> 00:34:58,290 Speaker 1: carry these small crosses. So if God's only son suffered 565 00:34:58,310 --> 00:35:01,549 Speaker 1: the most unfathomable death, I mean, Jesus said, oh yeah, 566 00:35:01,790 --> 00:35:05,810 Speaker 1: we're going to have crosses in this life. Oh yeah. 567 00:35:06,550 --> 00:35:13,650 Speaker 1: And so, but that's, that's part of the, almost the unification, 568 00:35:14,010 --> 00:35:18,630 Speaker 1: like the closer we get, it's, it's, it's a blessing, 569 00:35:18,730 --> 00:35:20,760 Speaker 1: even though we don't always love it and not that 570 00:35:20,780 --> 00:35:25,300 Speaker 1: we can appreciate it, but suffering does unite us to Christ. 571 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:26,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it does. It does. 572 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,020 Speaker 1: And so it's. 573 00:35:30,420 --> 00:35:34,740 Speaker 2: Just, take it as a gift, offer it up, offer 574 00:35:34,780 --> 00:35:35,339 Speaker 2: it up, buddy. 575 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: Offer it up. When the kids randomly complain, like you'll 576 00:35:39,620 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: get one out of the five who will be like, 577 00:35:42,380 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: offer it up for the poor souls in purgatory. 578 00:35:44,900 --> 00:35:50,879 Speaker 2: Offer it up. Offer it up. Offer it up. It's 579 00:35:50,940 --> 00:35:51,620 Speaker 2: such a thing. 580 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:58,509 Speaker 1: And I'd be remiss if before we started to wrap up, 581 00:35:59,469 --> 00:36:01,629 Speaker 1: if we didn't talk about, and I hate it that 582 00:36:01,650 --> 00:36:04,730 Speaker 1: I don't have his name. We didn't talk about what 583 00:36:04,850 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: is just trending everywhere. Even our dear Protestant friends are 584 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,720 Speaker 1: sharing it and just are like, they're like, I'm not Catholic, 585 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:17,219 Speaker 1: but this is so moving and beautiful. Oh, yeah, that priest. 586 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,050 Speaker 1: The priest. It was in Minnesota, was it? 587 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:21,610 Speaker 2: I think so, yeah. 588 00:36:21,620 --> 00:36:25,770 Speaker 1: Because I remember it was more of a liberal. Yeah, 589 00:36:25,930 --> 00:36:31,730 Speaker 1: and this priest was during the transubstantiation, turning. 590 00:36:32,450 --> 00:36:33,259 Speaker 2: The blood of Christ. 591 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:38,379 Speaker 1: Into the blood of Christ. He was so overcome. He 592 00:36:38,420 --> 00:36:45,540 Speaker 1: was weeping so uncontrollably, yet beautifully. And he had later 593 00:36:45,780 --> 00:36:51,060 Speaker 1: stated that it was the most massive blessing upon him 594 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: that he could truly just even somewhat feel the passion 595 00:36:56,620 --> 00:36:59,779 Speaker 1: of our Lord and literally the weight. He said like 596 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,210 Speaker 1: the chalice, he physically could not lift it. Like he said, 597 00:37:03,230 --> 00:37:07,029 Speaker 1: it was so heavy. And it was like, he literally 598 00:37:07,550 --> 00:37:09,509 Speaker 1: felt as if he just, you know, those things, you 599 00:37:09,570 --> 00:37:09,770 Speaker 1: and I. 600 00:37:09,750 --> 00:37:12,370 Speaker 2: Talk about this a lot. It was just like a revelation. 601 00:37:12,510 --> 00:37:17,230 Speaker 1: Yes, you know, you know what God's trying to tell you. 602 00:37:17,469 --> 00:37:19,930 Speaker 1: And it was just like Jesus taking on the weight 603 00:37:19,969 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 1: of all of our sins. And literally I watched it 604 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: and I just had these tears fall. 605 00:37:28,140 --> 00:37:28,700 Speaker 3: So sweet. 606 00:37:30,820 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 1: And it was just like... And people, you. 607 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 2: Could hear people in the congregation like weeping too. 608 00:37:35,980 --> 00:37:40,180 Speaker 1: Right. I can't, could you imagine being there in person? 609 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:46,969 Speaker 1: And it's, you know, it's just when you're able to 610 00:37:47,090 --> 00:37:51,350 Speaker 1: weep for our Lord, there's something really powerful about it. 611 00:37:51,450 --> 00:37:53,810 Speaker 1: And it is a grace. I remember people telling me, 612 00:37:53,870 --> 00:37:56,750 Speaker 1: like some of the holiest people I knew, when I 613 00:37:56,790 --> 00:38:00,810 Speaker 1: was like going to daily mass for years, and weekly confession, 614 00:38:01,530 --> 00:38:08,359 Speaker 1: I started to get truly during transubstantiation, extremely emotional, like 615 00:38:08,489 --> 00:38:11,939 Speaker 1: extremely overcome where like there was times I was brought 616 00:38:11,980 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 1: to tears, but goosebumps everywhere, like so overcome. And I 617 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:20,280 Speaker 1: remember people of all ages were like, I'm so envious 618 00:38:20,300 --> 00:38:22,339 Speaker 1: that you get to feel that. Like, do you know 619 00:38:22,390 --> 00:38:25,830 Speaker 1: what a grace that is? Because we all also, when 620 00:38:25,850 --> 00:38:27,589 Speaker 1: the saints have talked about it, you know, you go 621 00:38:27,610 --> 00:38:31,910 Speaker 1: through dry spells too. Oh, yeah. That's not uncommon, but 622 00:38:31,950 --> 00:38:34,690 Speaker 1: it's just still persevering and pushing through the dry spells. 623 00:38:35,330 --> 00:38:38,910 Speaker 1: But there's something, yeah, when you can feel that emotion, 624 00:38:41,469 --> 00:38:43,069 Speaker 1: it's so powerful. 625 00:38:43,090 --> 00:38:44,710 Speaker 2: It's really beautiful. 626 00:38:44,770 --> 00:38:49,380 Speaker 1: How can people not think this is real? Yeah. And 627 00:38:49,420 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: he makes you aware of his presence, like his literal presence. 628 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:54,840 Speaker 1: It's just almost chilling. 629 00:38:54,860 --> 00:38:58,140 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was awesome. It was funny, like, watching the 630 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,380 Speaker 2: altar survey. He's like, do it. Do I ring them? 631 00:39:01,460 --> 00:39:04,569 Speaker 2: Do we go up? Do I help? Ring-a-ding? Like, do 632 00:39:04,610 --> 00:39:06,790 Speaker 2: I pat him on the back? Right. 633 00:39:07,190 --> 00:39:09,129 Speaker 1: I mean, if I was there, if I was, like, 634 00:39:09,630 --> 00:39:12,810 Speaker 1: the reader or something, I could see me. I'm just 635 00:39:12,850 --> 00:39:15,130 Speaker 1: such a weirdo. Like, if I was, like, sitting in 636 00:39:15,270 --> 00:39:17,810 Speaker 1: one of the front pews, I could see me, like, 637 00:39:18,210 --> 00:39:19,290 Speaker 1: opening up. I know. 638 00:39:19,330 --> 00:39:21,339 Speaker 2: You'd want to go up and, like, hug him. Are 639 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 2: you okay? I know. I can't touch this. 640 00:39:25,620 --> 00:39:28,109 Speaker 1: Can I touch your elbow? Do you want me to help? 641 00:39:29,210 --> 00:39:29,630 Speaker 2: Really? 642 00:39:29,710 --> 00:39:29,930 Speaker 1: I know. 643 00:39:29,989 --> 00:39:32,150 Speaker 2: It was a really beautiful. It was really like, just, 644 00:39:32,250 --> 00:39:35,760 Speaker 2: you know, it was like going through something really profound. Right. 645 00:39:35,969 --> 00:39:38,739 Speaker 2: Or really that's how we should all be like every mass. 646 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 2: That's how we should all. 647 00:39:40,420 --> 00:39:43,690 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was Padre Pio who said it. I, 648 00:39:44,140 --> 00:39:47,840 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Or I think it was Padre Pio, 649 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:53,930 Speaker 1: but they said, Or was it 100% to a Catholic 650 00:39:54,350 --> 00:39:57,570 Speaker 1: who said, if people truly believed in the presence of 651 00:39:57,650 --> 00:40:03,930 Speaker 1: Christ in transubstantiation, like if they full-heartedly believed, they would 652 00:40:04,210 --> 00:40:08,910 Speaker 1: be on their knees in the parking lot, basically crawling in. Like, 653 00:40:09,210 --> 00:40:12,710 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? If people just understood what 654 00:40:12,750 --> 00:40:15,890 Speaker 1: we're given in the presence, in the gravity, because think 655 00:40:15,930 --> 00:40:19,430 Speaker 1: about it. Like if we knew Jesus was inside the church, right? 656 00:40:19,820 --> 00:40:21,460 Speaker 1: And he's in, oh my gosh, we get to meet him. 657 00:40:21,489 --> 00:40:21,990 Speaker 2: He's there. 658 00:40:22,010 --> 00:40:26,029 Speaker 1: I mean, I would be crawling and sobbing. I don't 659 00:40:26,050 --> 00:40:28,490 Speaker 1: even think I could look up, right? Like, Lord, literally, 660 00:40:28,510 --> 00:40:30,710 Speaker 1: I'd be like the woman just trying to touch his hand. 661 00:40:31,710 --> 00:40:36,630 Speaker 1: And so that just always stuck with me. Like, as humans, 662 00:40:36,670 --> 00:40:39,870 Speaker 1: we're just so flawed. We forget the magnitude. 663 00:40:39,890 --> 00:40:41,890 Speaker 2: We just take it for granted. 664 00:40:42,330 --> 00:40:47,270 Speaker 1: We take it for granted. Like, being in his presence, 665 00:40:47,950 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 1: you know? And- And so little yet huge reminders like that, 666 00:40:55,800 --> 00:41:00,060 Speaker 1: there's just such gifts of grace. I've had just the 667 00:41:00,140 --> 00:41:03,900 Speaker 1: smallest but huge profound personal moments of grace where I've 668 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 1: been so overcome. Usually it's only a couple seconds by 669 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:11,339 Speaker 1: the presence of God, completely overcome. And one time by 670 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:16,550 Speaker 1: Mary after I finished my consecration to her. And it's like, 671 00:41:16,969 --> 00:41:21,770 Speaker 1: it's seconds long, but it's just, It's just almost euphoric. 672 00:41:22,530 --> 00:41:24,790 Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? It's almost euphoric. 673 00:41:25,730 --> 00:41:27,810 Speaker 1: Where it's like, oh my gosh, I don't even know 674 00:41:27,850 --> 00:41:30,770 Speaker 1: if I could handle it more than a few seconds. 675 00:41:31,830 --> 00:41:35,250 Speaker 1: Such a beautiful reminder that in this hellhole of a 676 00:41:35,290 --> 00:41:40,340 Speaker 1: mess down here, that who's still on the throne? Who wins? 677 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:46,740 Speaker 1: And everything is so fleeting. Everything is fleeting. 678 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:48,670 Speaker 2: Keep our eyes up. 679 00:41:49,550 --> 00:41:52,130 Speaker 1: Got to keep our eyes up. For sure. 680 00:41:53,270 --> 00:41:55,310 Speaker 2: And I'm going to go win a football game. And 681 00:41:55,350 --> 00:41:56,450 Speaker 2: now you got to go coach. 682 00:41:56,510 --> 00:41:57,450 Speaker 1: Be Coach Abby. 683 00:41:57,469 --> 00:41:59,330 Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. 684 00:42:00,250 --> 00:42:03,850 Speaker 1: All right, my friends. Thank you for joining us today. 685 00:42:04,170 --> 00:42:06,050 Speaker 1: And until next time. 686 00:42:06,910 --> 00:42:08,510 Speaker 2: Keep raising your little saints. 687 00:42:20,260 --> 00:42:23,799 Speaker 1: Oh darling, take heart.