WEBVTT - A Blue Avalanche

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Boy, it was.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm all right, you know? Rough night. I'm, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we got to have a big... big dose, a heaping

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<v Speaker 2>dose of humility today. I don't think there's any sense

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<v Speaker 2>in going screaming howler monkey and finger pointing and doing

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<v Speaker 2>the blame game. Look, I'm going to get you all

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<v Speaker 2>my realtor information. Chris Waters does a great job, Mark.

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<v Speaker 2>I get you moved to Florida because this is where

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<v Speaker 2>you need to be. I know.

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<v Speaker 3>Byron Donald's won. Ashley Moody won. You guys are still

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<v Speaker 3>a red state. I mean, I know we're having a

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<v Speaker 3>little fun here.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, a little bit of fun. No, but there's a

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<v Speaker 2>serious point. There's a serious point out of Florida. A

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<v Speaker 2>very serious point.

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<v Speaker 3>The only thing I would say in reply is that

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<v Speaker 3>I would suggest that Texas needs me now more than ever.

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<v Speaker 3>And that America needs you and me now more than ever.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a role we're going to play now. And look,

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<v Speaker 2>Limbaugh used to joke about the fact that his best years...

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<v Speaker 2>We're when Bill Clinton was president. I mean, we're the

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<v Speaker 2>loyal opposition. Texas is a real epic head-scratcher. Look, you

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<v Speaker 2>might want to get ready for a state income tax

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<v Speaker 2>in Texas because it's every statewide office. When I saw,

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<v Speaker 2>as you pointed out, the heartbreaking concession speech by Governor

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<v Speaker 2>Greg Abbott, It was up and down the ballot. Every

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<v Speaker 2>state office and Democrats have never come across a tax

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<v Speaker 2>they don't like. If you think you're off the hook

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<v Speaker 2>and you're not going to have to pay a state

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<v Speaker 2>income tax one of these days, think again. And there

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<v Speaker 2>will be a lot of people moving here. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>kidding you. Florida, led by a guy named DeSantis. And

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<v Speaker 2>I want to take a few seconds on him because,

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<v Speaker 2>and first nationally, let's talk about why it's important to

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<v Speaker 2>sing Don't Worry, Be Happy. We're going to be all right.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple of facts worth noting. Yes, we lost the

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<v Speaker 2>House and the Senate. But Trump's immigration, economic, and trade

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<v Speaker 2>policies all have to remain in place. He still controls enforcement.

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<v Speaker 2>He still controls tariffs. He has executive actions, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>veto power.

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<v Speaker 1>The border funding, Mark.

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<v Speaker 2>Which is so important, and arguably his signature accomplishment, that

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<v Speaker 2>border funding is locked through 2029. Democrats can't stop that.

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<v Speaker 2>So they can't reverse the tariffs, and they can't reopen

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<v Speaker 2>the border.

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<v Speaker 3>And they're not going to do Medicare for all, and

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<v Speaker 3>they're not going to pack the court. He will be

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<v Speaker 3>there to stop every bad idea they give him, and

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<v Speaker 3>they will give him many. Do you think we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to get impeachment every Thursday at noon?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, of course we will. Guaranteed.

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<v Speaker 2>They already said one of the top Democrats on the

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<v Speaker 2>judiciary last night said, lawyer up. Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>Two-word. They're ready. They're going to come for vengeance. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's what they'll do.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to find out real quick how little they

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<v Speaker 2>cared about affordability. Because, of course, none of that's going

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<v Speaker 2>to do anything to make gas prices come down.

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<v Speaker 1>But gas prices are going to come down.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the bitter pill to swallow because they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to and they're going to take credit for it.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to say, look at what we did.

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<v Speaker 2>We got rid of all these Republicans and now look

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<v Speaker 2>at the economy and it's Trump's economy. But that's look,

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<v Speaker 2>that's just the way it's going to have to be.

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<v Speaker 2>And we've got to accept that. But let's talk about

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<v Speaker 2>DeSantis for a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do.

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<v Speaker 2>He made a case to the to the people of Florida.

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<v Speaker 2>The property tax is a miserably stupid idea. That if

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<v Speaker 2>you own a home, it's insane that you've paid the

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<v Speaker 2>home off at age 50 or 60 or 70 or beyond.

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<v Speaker 2>And now you've got to keep paying rent to the

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<v Speaker 2>government for the rest of your life. You know what

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<v Speaker 2>they did last night? They paid attention and they passed

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<v Speaker 2>Amendment 3. That means that for a vast majority of

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<v Speaker 2>Texas homesteaded homeowners, property tax, I mean Florida homeowners, property

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<v Speaker 2>taxes go out the window.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, that's massive in a climate nationally. The socialist Angie Nixon,

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<v Speaker 2>she was defeated. Byron Donald's first black governor in the

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<v Speaker 2>history of Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of firsts. And Ruby Red, Florida.

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<v Speaker 2>It was one of the only success stories in the country,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was spearheaded by a guy named Ron DeSantis. Mark,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you right now. And I'm calling it Wednesday morning,

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<v Speaker 2>November the 4th, 2026. Ron DeSantis is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>the Republican nominee for president in 2028.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's going to win. Marco Rubio is in the

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<v Speaker 1>Trump administration. Hate to break it to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Ron DeSantis, if you've watched him, he's very skillfully distanced

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<v Speaker 2>himself from the Trump administration. He's America first without what

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<v Speaker 2>the world will say is the MAGA baggage. And incidentally,

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<v Speaker 2>you're right. MAGA's not good. The America first movement isn't

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<v Speaker 2>going anywhere. But nonetheless— The country is going to turn

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<v Speaker 2>its eyes, Mrs. Robinson, its lonely eyes, to a guy

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<v Speaker 2>who can make the case, I'm not flashy. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>warm and fuzzy. I'm not particularly charismatic. I'm not even

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<v Speaker 2>really likable. But I'm a serious guy who gets things done,

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<v Speaker 2>who's a policy whiz guy, and who could be one

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<v Speaker 2>of the most effective presidents we've ever seen since President

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<v Speaker 2>Trump in our lifetime. Ron DeSantis, I'm bullish on DeSantis

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<v Speaker 2>in 2028, and I'm going to, and Mark, maybe you're

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<v Speaker 2>getting the same feedback I'm getting. My email inbox, my

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<v Speaker 2>social media, my phone blowing up with people saying, are

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<v Speaker 2>you paying, compare Texas to Florida, my friend.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, compare that. I'm not dunking here. I love Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of my most epic moments were spent with my

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<v Speaker 2>Denise and the kids in Texas. But you can't even

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<v Speaker 2>compare the two states. You know what the difference is?

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<v Speaker 2>Greg Abbott versus Ron DeSantis. Ron DeSantis is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be the Republican nominee.

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<v Speaker 1>You wait and see. You wait and see.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's a strong uptick in that likelihood. Two

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<v Speaker 3>years from now is forever. In a way, it's just

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<v Speaker 3>like tomorrow. It'll be here before we know it. And

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<v Speaker 3>yet it's forever in the political calendar. And here's the

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<v Speaker 3>X factor that will determine the accuracy of what you're

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<v Speaker 3>talking about. When it is a year from now, only

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<v Speaker 3>one year because everybody's going to start running for president

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<v Speaker 3>of Iowa. in the 2028 presidential race pretty darn soon.

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<v Speaker 3>And if Vance runs, Rubio says he won't. That's probably true.

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<v Speaker 3>So if it winds up being Vance versus DeSantis, It

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<v Speaker 3>will depend on within the Republican Party, because it's a

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<v Speaker 3>Republican primary, how much will we give J.D. Vance credit

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<v Speaker 3>for being the heir apparent to the parts of the

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<v Speaker 3>Trump legacy that we really like, which is virtually all

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<v Speaker 3>of it, except for the war, which will probably be over,

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<v Speaker 3>and gas prices, which will.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably be better.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't for a minute think that Vance will wear

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<v Speaker 3>some horrible MAGA stain on Once the primaries began at

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<v Speaker 3>the beginning of 2028, but you still have a really

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<v Speaker 3>strong point because there will be DeSantis with the defeat

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<v Speaker 3>of Greg Abbott, the only governor left standing unscathed with

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<v Speaker 3>a track record that is very Trumpy and very America

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<v Speaker 3>first and very MAGA friendly. And yet without some of

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<v Speaker 3>the populism and the drama, uh, DeSantis' stock just went

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<v Speaker 3>up exponentially.

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<v Speaker 2>Dramatically. And I would say if I'm looking at a

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<v Speaker 2>showdown between J.D. Vance or Ron DeSantis, because you're right,

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<v Speaker 2>this starts in a matter of months. This is a

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<v Speaker 2>year or so away. This is not going to be

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<v Speaker 2>in an eternity. I'm sorry, it's going to be very

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<v Speaker 2>difficult for J.D. Vance to shake off the massive defeat

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<v Speaker 2>of November 3rd, 2026. Ron DeSantis doesn't have that.

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<v Speaker 3>As true as that is, because I mean, you're right,

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<v Speaker 3>you're right, you're right. And I'm not, I won't distance

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<v Speaker 3>from or spin or sugarcoat anything that happened last night.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't do it.

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<v Speaker 3>But it is very surgically precise. Don't you think that

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<v Speaker 3>it really was about frustrations about the war? about frustrations

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<v Speaker 3>over gas prices, about frustrations over affordability. In no way

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<v Speaker 3>was this a voter middle finger to borders and lower

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<v Speaker 3>taxes and a better regulatory environment and gender sanity and

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<v Speaker 3>environmental sanity. All those things are still true, and the

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<v Speaker 3>Republican voters are still going to love those things, but

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<v Speaker 3>they just were not enough to outweigh the frustrations of

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<v Speaker 3>this moment.

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<v Speaker 2>All of those issues you listed won last night. The

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<v Speaker 2>Democrats won last night on all of those issues. All

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<v Speaker 2>of the gender insanity, all of the border crap, everything

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<v Speaker 2>won last night.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to take your medicine.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't for a minute think that you do you

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<v Speaker 3>believe that Texas believes there are six genders?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I do not.

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<v Speaker 2>I do not. I agree with you. I'm not disagreeing

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<v Speaker 2>with you on the merits. But what I'm saying is.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't try to polish this turd and pretend.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not. Because, look, it is what it is. This

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<v Speaker 2>was a repudiation mark. There was every state office in Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't even close. Hinojosa clobbered at it. You're going

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<v Speaker 2>to tell me because it's because of gas prices in

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<v Speaker 2>an oil state like Texas? No. Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>And here's why. Because everybody that came into the ballot boxes,

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<v Speaker 3>everybody came into the polling places to vote for to

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<v Speaker 3>vote for woke Opie. Tallarico did this. And then you

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<v Speaker 3>got to give him, you know, props or whatever you

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<v Speaker 3>want to call it. It is the power of his

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<v Speaker 3>candidacy where Texas Democrats said, we're going to give you

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<v Speaker 3>a Democrat senator. And while they were there with much

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<v Speaker 3>more passion for that. than we had for Paxton or

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<v Speaker 3>would have had for Cornyn, while they were there, they

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<v Speaker 3>just said, well, we're going to get rid of Abbott.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to get rid of Dan Patrick. We're going

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<v Speaker 3>to get rid of Don Huffines. We're going to get

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<v Speaker 3>rid of Mays Middleton.

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<v Speaker 1>They were there.

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<v Speaker 3>So Democrats just did Democrat things in no way. With

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<v Speaker 3>this broad repudiation of everything Republicans stand for.

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<v Speaker 2>It hurts me to say this because I'm a Trump guy.

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<v Speaker 2>What did you think of President Trump bashing Greg Abbott

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<v Speaker 2>last night on social media?

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<v Speaker 3>It was ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>You think people are noticing that, Mark?

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<v Speaker 3>Of course they are.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think people.

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<v Speaker 2>Noticed that a guy that President Trump lifted up and

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<v Speaker 2>was campaigning for, essentially, then turned on him last night? Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>was Greg Abbott a rhino for the last six months, Mark?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course not.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a better Greg Abbott this time than he

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<v Speaker 3>was four years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, not according to President Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>Gotta blame somebody. And I love the president.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a Trump guy. I'm a Trump guy. But look,

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<v Speaker 2>it's time to take our medicine, Mark, and understand the

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<v Speaker 2>dogs don't like the food. It doesn't mean we don't

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<v Speaker 2>love his policies, and it doesn't mean we don't love

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<v Speaker 2>what he's accomplished and achieved. And this sealed border is

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<v Speaker 2>something that no president could have ever come close to achieving.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is a guy who is a lot to take,

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<v Speaker 2>and we all know it. And I saw what you

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<v Speaker 2>said last night on social media. You didn't like it

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<v Speaker 2>any more than anybody did. No.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'll give you something else. He said if I

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<v Speaker 3>had been on the ballot, we would have won.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no.

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<v Speaker 3>Because, Mr. President, you were on the ballot.

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<v Speaker 2>You were.

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<v Speaker 1>You told us to put you on the ballot, Mr. President.

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<v Speaker 1>And we did. And they did. And they did.

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<v Speaker 3>And it is the war that you own and the

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<v Speaker 3>gas prices that you own. And the affordability that is

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<v Speaker 3>rough because of this decision you made. And I still

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<v Speaker 3>might support that decision. Even this morning. Oh, of course.

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<v Speaker 3>This was the voters saying on these surgically precise issues

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<v Speaker 3>that we hate those enough. That we're going to rise

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<v Speaker 3>up and deliver a blow to you.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of think this is the reason we got

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<v Speaker 2>to stick around. This is why we have the M &amp;

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<v Speaker 2>M Extra podcast. You got that right.

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<v Speaker 1>You ready? Hey, we're in this together.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, Mark, let me close with a little bit of,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a little bit, not emotional, but feeling a little melancholy.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been through great times together. We've been through tough

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<v Speaker 2>times together. We've survived COVID. We got through post 9-11.

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<v Speaker 2>We celebrated 2016. We're going to get through all this together.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're a community. And I love this community. I

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<v Speaker 2>love being with you and communing with you every morning.

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<v Speaker 2>I love this audience. And I love this new opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>that we have to reach out and connect to people,

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<v Speaker 2>not only through the M &amp; M experience every morning

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<v Speaker 2>on Case Guide, But M &amp; M Extra, wherever you

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<v Speaker 2>get your podcasts, we'll be there today for you because, look,

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<v Speaker 2>we need each other and we're going to get through

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<v Speaker 2>it all.