1 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: I'm Josh Hammer, and this is the Josh Hammer Show. 2 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: So lots and lots going on. We are still on 3 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: pins and needles wait to see if this red Lion 4 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 1: that has been so brazenly crossed by the Molas of Ron, 5 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: is Donald Trump going to enforce that. It is a 6 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: question that is hovering over the entire national conversation, frankly 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: over the entire global geopolitical conversation right now. Our eyes 8 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: are carefully attuned to that. Later on today's episode of 9 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: The Josh Hammer Show. We've got political scandals, We've got 10 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: transgender lawsuits, we've got second amendments, gun right discussions, special 11 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: election in Texas. There's all sorts going on here on today. 12 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: But I want to get us started for now on 13 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: what continues to be the major story, which is this 14 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: week's long, now essentially month long standoff seemingly kind of 15 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: sort of de escalating between the federal government and the 16 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: state of Minnesota and by extension, various democratic bans chains 17 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: nationwide when it comes to the enforcement of federal immigration law. 18 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: So there's actually now a partial government shutdown that's relates 19 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: to this. A little bit more on this later in 20 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 1: today's episode, but long story shorts. On Friday, you had 21 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: the US Senate pass a CR, a continued resolution that 22 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: will fund most of the governments. But there's only a 23 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: very very brief two week exception for the Department of 24 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 1: Homeland Security that is now kicked over to Mike Johnsons 25 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: Speaker of the House. They're getting a preliminary hearing in 26 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: the Rules Committee today Tuesday to aka tomorrow, Mike Johnson 27 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: hoping to get that package passed on the House floor. 28 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: But there is a partial government government shutdown pertaining to 29 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: all these Democrat demands when it comes to ice and 30 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: immigration enforcement. So the whole country really is focused for 31 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: now on the issue of immigration and and just this 32 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: morning actually on February Teco pam Body, the Turn General 33 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: of the United States, announcing that two more have been 34 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: arrested in connection with the Don Lemon orchestrated storming of 35 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: the city's church in Saint Paul, Minnesota, happened last month 36 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: in January. So on x Pambonni making clear that that 37 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: quote if you right in the place of worship, we 38 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: will find you. Two more arrests Ian Davis Austin and 39 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: Jerome D'Angelo Richardson. So good for Pambonni for following through 40 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: on that. You know, Don Lemon is now getting feated. 41 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: He's getting he's getting all the all the applause and 42 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: the plaudits and the this and that there. It seems 43 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: to me like Don Lemon frankly probably wanted this. I've 44 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: had to guess. It seemed like Don Lemon wanted this 45 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: one for his career. He wanted this whole martyrdom self 46 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: a grand dozen complex there. The point that we made 47 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 1: on the show on Friday, and they would just briefly 48 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: reiterate here, is that I do not care. You know, 49 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: there are some folks the rights saying, oh, why would 50 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: you give Don Lemon this? Because it's the law, and 51 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: the law must be enforced, period, period, full stop, end 52 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: of story. If you trespass private property rights, if you 53 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: violate a federal law and known as the Face Act, 54 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: where you disrupt a house worship there, if you conspire 55 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: with others to deprive your fellow Americans or the constitutional rights, 56 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: including the first woman rights to free and worship there, 57 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: that is the ku Klux PLANATX. You gotta pay the 58 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: price for it. So Don Lem and now these other 59 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 1: huligans from the city's church storming are also now being arrested. 60 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: Good for Pambondi and the DOJ. By the way, another 61 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: legal victory actually for the trumdministration in Minnesota this past 62 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: weekend as well, so a Biden appointed judge, Judge Katherine Menendez, 63 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: a US district Court judge there in the land of 64 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: ten thousand likes. During this whole escalation in January, Minnesota, 65 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: the state of Minnesota Keith Ellison theater in general first 66 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: appeal to judgment is his courtroom when it came to 67 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: their outrageous Tenth Amendment States Riots, their John C. Calhoun 68 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: Southern Neo Confederacy esque lawsuit, this legally historically described lawsuit 69 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: to try to kick the Feds out of Minnesota, so 70 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: they initially send it to Judge Menena's district courtroom there 71 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: in Minnesota. She ruled at the time for Ellison in Minnesota, 72 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: and then she was promptly overruled by the judges of 73 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: the US Court Appeals for the Eighth Circuit was one 74 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: of the more conservative, right leaning appelled courts in the 75 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: United States. Of the weekend, this case went back down 76 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: to judgment and as his court room, and this time 77 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: she actually ruled quite swiss swiftly for the Trump administration. 78 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: Basically said that the operation in Metro Surge, which is 79 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: what DHS and a Chris you know, is calling this 80 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: extended immigration operation in Minneapolis in Minnesota. So judgment is 81 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: ruling the operation Metro Surge is indeed staying in Minnesota 82 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 1: for now. She basically wrote, quote, Ultimately, the court flies 83 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: that the balance of harms does not decisively favor an injunction. 84 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: She did note in clearly superfluous virtue silly language, she 85 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: noted that the plaintiffs aka Minnesota and Minneapolis, Keith Ellis 86 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,359 Speaker 1: and Jacob Fry, the Attorney General and the mayor respectively, 87 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: that they made a quote strong showing and she even 88 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: said that this operation will probably continue to have profound 89 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: and even heartbreaking consequences. I mean, why would you put 90 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: that in opinion your cloe just trying to blink wek 91 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: nudge judge at your liberal base there. But even she 92 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: even she said that's that there are other harms here, 93 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: mainly the harms from illegal alien crime, and ultimately that 94 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: this is a federal law enforced investigation. So long story short, 95 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: this tenth Amendments argument from Keith Elson and the same Minnesota. 96 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 1: This discredited argument that was made from John C. Calhoun 97 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: and the anti Bellum period. This discredit argument that was 98 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: made by George Wallason Raville Faubus of Alabama and Arkansas 99 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: during the height of the segregationist fight in the mid 100 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: twenties twentieth century. This argument has now been rejected by 101 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: a Biden nominated judge. And not that it matters, but 102 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: someone who has a Hispanic sounded name, by the way, 103 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: Catherine Menendez. There so I get I don't think it 104 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: really matters, but this stuff has been discredited. There so 105 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: a huge, huge loss for Keith Ellison and the neo 106 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: Confederate Democrats there in the state of Minnesota. The point 107 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: that I want to make to you for purposes right 108 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: now though on our show, is this, aren't we kind 109 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 1: of missing the point? Really this whole conversation, don't get 110 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:00,040 Speaker 1: me wrong. Immigration to me is the most important is 111 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: all politics. I say this all the time. A Western 112 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: civilization is ever going to become again what it once was. 113 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: If we're going to protect and preserved and secure Western civilization, 114 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: we're going to protect preserved, secure or the United States 115 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: of America. We're going to pass on our civilization or 116 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: biblical inheritance from one generation to the next, and this 117 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: great unbroken chain of transmission. The immigration is the issue 118 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: that you're going to have to focus on above all. 119 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: It's the one issue to touch. Is every other issue, 120 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: supply and demand in the labor market, wages, jobs, crime, 121 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 1: national security, border security, culture, language, everything. Who are these people? 122 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: Immigration is the most important issue in our politics today. 123 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: So don't get me wrong when I said that we 124 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: are missing the forest for the trees here. What I 125 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: mean is this, we have had this concerted information operation 126 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: for weeks now about the ice standoff in Minnesota, that 127 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: we have forgotten what they're there for. Why did d 128 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: just go into Minnesota in the first place. What ultimately 129 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: made Operation Metro Surge necessary, It was the Somali fraud scandal. 130 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: It was a scandal that really has been going on 131 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: for years, actually going back to the COVID era stimulus 132 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: payments to twenty twenty one twenty twenty two, but was 133 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: really brought to light anew by Chris Rufo of the 134 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: Manhattan Institutes, by Nick Shirley's Enterprising Young the YouTuber That's 135 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: why they're there. If you don't get this fraud if 136 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: you don't get ten Walls and Keith Elison and the 137 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: entire Minnesota Democrat establishments at best looking the other way, 138 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: at worst completely completely complicit in the fraud scandal. If 139 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: you don't get that, you don't get the Feds. By 140 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: the way, if you don't get Democrats Minnesota, they're doing 141 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: this whole John C. Calhoun ten demim thing. You don't 142 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: get the Feds either, and you definitely don't get at 143 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: a minimum, you don't get a dead Renee Nicole Good 144 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: or a dead Alex Preddy more on him later on 145 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: the show today as well, by the way. But that's 146 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: why they're there. You can go back to almost a 147 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: month ago at this point DHS put on X and 148 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: social media said, good morning Minneapolis. Heck Gy retweeted it. 149 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: You know why, you know why they went then, because 150 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: it was days after this fraud scandal reached a fever pitch. 151 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: Billions and billions of dollars in taxpayer fraud, in welfare 152 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: fraud committed predominantly by these states wholly unassimilated fifth column 153 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: Somali community. That's why they were there. Billions, not millions, 154 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: billions of dollars, as you said the show at the time, 155 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: more money than Lehman Brothers announced they lost. That triggered 156 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 1: the global financial meltdown of two and eight. That was 157 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: roughly three to three and a half billion dollars, way 158 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 1: more money than that was stolen, predominantly by Somali's in Minnesota. 159 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: That's why they're there. Look, I'm not sure whether the media, 160 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: whether the Democrats walls Omar, whether they are just doing 161 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: this because they genuinely are open borders ideological zealots, or 162 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: if they are cynical and diabolically shrude enough to recognize 163 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: that by focusing so much on this, then it does 164 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: have the effect of offu skating the actual underlying problem, 165 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: which is the fraud. I'm not sure whether it is 166 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: a genuine focus on immigration for immigration sake or an 167 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: attempt to deviously divert our attention from the fraud. But 168 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: it's working because very few, even in my orbit, seems 169 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: to remember that they're there for the fraud. That's literally 170 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: why they are there. Illino Omar, by the way, is 171 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: currently being investigated not just by the DOJ, but also 172 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: by the Congress. This is a woman who was barely 173 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: worth more than the clothes on her body. When she 174 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: was brought over from Mogadishu, the least grateful refugee in 175 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: the history of refugees, were poorly now and she and 176 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: her husband, who by the way, I find it's kind 177 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: of funny a person not her hugband day is like 178 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 1: a very stereotypical liberal white dude. He's not a Somali, 179 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: you know, Alexandro Cosa Cortez has long been dating this 180 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: deweby looking white hipster dude from Brooklyn or whatever he's from, too. 181 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 1: It's kind of funny, isn't it. You know, these identity 182 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: politics of obsesses end up dating these these beta mal 183 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 1: juibi white liberals. I just found that kind of funny 184 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: on a personne but in any event, Sean putting on 185 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: true social In recent days, the Doo Jane Congress are 186 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: looking at illin Omar's reportedly worth more than forty four 187 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: million dollars. Her financial disclosures filed in twenty twenty four 188 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: showed modest income and assets, and then suddenly, suddenly, in 189 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: the most recent form filed in twenty twenty five, we 190 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: see that there is an investments vehicle named Rose Lake 191 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: Capital where she and her husband list their it being 192 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: worth between five and twenty five million dollars. The funniest 193 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: part they apparently own a winery. They apparently hold a 194 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:54,359 Speaker 1: strong equitable stake in a winery in Sonoma Countries Sonoma County, California. 195 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: This winery apparently was listed as being valued at between 196 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: one in five million dollars. Now, look, we are not 197 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: experts on Shria law on this show, but we know 198 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: a thing or two at least about Shria law, and 199 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: based on our own research here from the Josh Hammer Show, 200 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: we can report to you that it is not in 201 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: fact Sharia law compliance for mismishee job. It is not 202 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: Sharia law compliant for a practicing Muslim to invest in 203 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: anything that is prohibited for consumption under Shria law. Yes, 204 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: but you can't have wine or any alcohol for that matter. 205 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 1: It's not punishable in our home country, Somalia according to 206 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 1: our research. But in Iran, for instance, this conduct is 207 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: subject to six months to a year in prison up 208 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: to seventy four latches and finds equal to five times 209 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: the market value of the alcohol. Funny how that works, 210 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: isn't it? But the point is this, folks, Immigration is 211 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: a fun topic. Don't forget about the fraud, not just 212 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: illin Omar, all of these other hooligans, these miscreens, these criminals. 213 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: We've seen dozens and dozens, up to one hundred indictments 214 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: by now by Cash Betel and the f Beyond the fats, 215 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: I want to see more. I want to see people 216 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: go to jail. This is important. It's really important stuff. 217 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: Don't miss the forest for the tree. Stay with us 218 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: with the break, folks, I'm Josh Hammer. We'll be right 219 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: back and the other side welcome back. So much more 220 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: to get to, but I wanted to finish my thoughts 221 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: before the break. We were talking about ilhan Omar and 222 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: this hilarious winery that she owns out in Sonoma County, California. 223 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: Contrary would seemed to us as Josh Amershaw, contrary to 224 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: the dictates of a Shia law. But more generally speaking, 225 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: illin Omar. Look, it's not just illin Omar, Okay, We've 226 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: seen all the all these daycare centers. Nick Sureley got 227 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 1: the video there, the leering centers, not the learning centers. 228 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: They're the whole host of fraud. But illin Omar really 229 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: has become ground zero. The very distillation and encapsulation of 230 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 1: this sprawling, smalllly fraud scandal there happening in the state 231 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: of Minnesota. Her net worth just ballooning, apparently to somewhere 232 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: between thirty and fifty million dollars. We don't even really 233 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: know the exact number there, highly highly suspicious how that happens. 234 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: I mean, either Illin Omar is the greatest investor of 235 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: since Warren Buffett or something frankly stinks to high heaven. 236 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: Martin Taylor Green, for what it's worth, who thanks goodness 237 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: and good riddance to her. Sorry pathetic, but she is 238 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,599 Speaker 1: now out of Congress. Martin Taylor Green, though who was 239 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: nominally purportedly a Republican, unfortunately did very much the same thing. 240 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: Her net worth also dramatically increase, presumably due to who knows. 241 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 1: I mean, there are a lot of folks spectating but 242 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 1: insire trading. We don't really know these details there. But 243 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: the point is that this conduct is not limited to 244 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: one side or the other. And we are true tellers 245 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: here on the show, and we are committed to telling 246 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: you the truth as we see it there. So this 247 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: is not necessarily just, and only Democrats do a kind 248 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: of thing. But the present massive, multi billion dollar welfare 249 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: fraud scandal in Minnesota really does ultimately revolve around the 250 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: state's Democratic leadership, and in this case, it is really 251 00:13:54,320 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: a Somali diaspora and a Minnesota Democratic former Labor Party scandal. Now, 252 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: if there's one thing that really ought to happen, this 253 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: would be the final word on this before moving on. 254 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: If there's one thing that really ought to happen when 255 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: it comes to this scandal in Minnesota, it is this. 256 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: It is that God willing, God willing, you'll have folks 257 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: from all parties who will rally around a sense of 258 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: common sense and basic decency when it comes to welfare fraud. 259 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: Last time, there was a great welfare reform that happened 260 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: during the nineteen nineties in Congress. It was Bill Clinton, 261 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: the centrist Democrat, who was leading the way. This is 262 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: back when Congress was able to agree on it, not 263 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: just naming post offices, but an actual, substantive, real legislation. 264 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: Welfare fraud was a genuine biparisan achievement there in the 265 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: mid nineteen nineties. Apparently, something like that has to happen again, 266 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: because this is beyond an excuse. Well, and look, there's 267 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: been a lot of popular sentiment in Washington, d C. 268 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: For some years now. Heck, we are not afraid or 269 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: enemies of popular sentiment here on the Josh Ammers Show. 270 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: We have many popular sympathies when it comes to issues 271 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: like industrial policy, family policy, anti trust enforcement, and frankly 272 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: other issues as well. But on some issues, populism run 273 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: amock is bad. On a basic fiscal sanity. On budget issues, 274 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: populism run a moock is bad. If you don't control 275 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: the budget, you get fraud, you get diminished incentives to 276 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: do a whole host of things like work, and by 277 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: the way, you risk catastrophic inflation too. The inflation that 278 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: you've seen in recent years is primarily due to Biden 279 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: error spending and the many, many years of monetary easing, 280 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: the quantitative easing at the Federal Reserve. By the way, 281 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: that quantitative easing was actually opposed in its earliest instantiation 282 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: by the now incoming Fed share Kevin Warsh an excellent 283 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: pick by Donald Trump. Will see how that plays out there. 284 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: But the point is, if there's one lesson to take 285 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: away from this, if Congress does anything as a result 286 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: of this, tighten the screws on welfare, form. It may 287 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: bring back a modic of common sense when it comes 288 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: to just fiscal soundy more generally. You know, Elon Muskin, 289 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: Doze tried this. Elon Musk was working really hard. That 290 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: really really hard dude was sleeping in his office. The 291 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: richest man in the world was sleeping there, working twenty 292 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: plus hour days of times trying to say federal taxpayer dollars. 293 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: He didn't end up getting a lot of savings, less 294 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: than many of us hoped he would. And frankly, there 295 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: were now some in DC who are trying to undo 296 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: his work and resuscate from the dead these moribund, fraud 297 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: riddled agencies like USAID. But he did the best he could, 298 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: and frankly, we need a whole lot more of that. 299 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: We'll see what happens though, with the ongoing DJ and 300 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: congretionial investigations. For now, into elan Omar again, this hue Job, 301 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: Warry Muslim who wears the winery. I just can't get 302 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: enough of that. We find that this is so funny 303 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: here on the show. So in other news over the weekend, 304 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: there was a special election down in the state of Texas. 305 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: Now this was a district that Donald Trump won by 306 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: seventeen points in twenty twenty four. It's in Fort Worth, 307 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: in the Dallas Fort Worth area. I know the area 308 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: quite well. I used to live in Dallas for a 309 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: number of years myself. This is Senate District nine in 310 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: the in the Texas state legislature. There Trump long story 311 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: Short wins by seventeen points in twenty twenty four, and 312 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 1: at this time the Democrats, an Air Force veteran and 313 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: union leader by the name of Taylor Remen. Taylor Remant 314 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: pulls off an upset, winning this race by fourteen points 315 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: over a Republican new cult herself, Ultramaga Lee Wamgenz. And 316 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: this is a massive swing, a swing of thirty one 317 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: points from the Trump margin twenty twenty four to this. 318 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: Is this a big deal? Well, look, let me give 319 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: you the case for copium, then the case for borderline 320 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: black bill, and then you can be your own judge. 321 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: The case for copium not opium. Don't get excited there, copium. 322 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: The case for coping and whistling past the graveyard is 323 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: basically this. I'm not down by it. There's something to this, Okay, 324 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 1: there's at least something. On the one hand, you had 325 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: the Democrat primary in this state Senate race in North 326 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: Texas where the guy just coasted by Taylor Remant beloved 327 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: by the local Democrat party. He really had no challenge there. 328 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: He's skated by the Republican primary is brutal. It was 329 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: an absolutely brutal mono mono matchup between this candid who 330 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: ultimately prevailed Lee Wamgand and her opponents. And the big 331 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: issue is, basically of all issues, casino. So casinos historically 332 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: not a thing in Texas. He had a drive north 333 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: of the Red River, Tookahoma to get a big indie 334 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: casino there. On the other side of the Red River. 335 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: There's some folks trying to bring casinos to Texas, which 336 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: is the nation's second most populous state after California. So 337 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: you had the Miriam Adelson backed proposino candidate versus the 338 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick backed anti casino candidate. A lot of money 339 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: was spends. They really roughed each other up. That's on 340 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: the one hand. On the other hand, the case of 341 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: Copium is basically that the Texastate legislature famously only meets 342 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: every other year. There's a real source of pride actually 343 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 1: for Texans. They love the fact that here in Texas, 344 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: our legislature only meets every two years. That's how committed 345 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: we are to live in a government. I'm not mocking. 346 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: It's actually a wonderful concept. I was very proud of 347 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: it myself back when you still live in the lone 348 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: Star state. Long story short, the legislature is not even 349 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: in session this year, so it's a largely symbolic seat 350 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: until the actual general election this November. Okay, So that's 351 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: the case for copium bloody up Republican primary legislature literally 352 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: not even in session. On the other hand, the case 353 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: for for something a little more dire is essentially this. 354 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: If you zoom out and look at all of these 355 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: state legislature special elections over the past year or so 356 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:22,479 Speaker 1: since Donald Trump came out office, you see Texas sen 357 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: District nine a thirty one pointswing the Democrats, Georgia House 358 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 1: District one twenty one a fourteen points wing the Democrats. 359 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: In one Mississippi House district and three Mississippi two Missippi 360 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: send districts Democrats swings of eight nineteen nineteen points respectively. 361 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: Two Iowas Senate districts and special elections twenty two and 362 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: twenty five points means of Democrats and finally, in a 363 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania sen district, a sixteen point swing the Democrats. That's 364 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: a lot, Okay, that is a lot of folks there 365 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 1: who are apparently either sitting at home on their butts 366 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: if it's if it's a Republican, or being motivated to 367 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: get the vote if you're a Democrat. And the polling 368 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: does show up. This polling right now does show that 369 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: Democrats have an enthusiasm and motivation advantage when it comes 370 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: to the November election. How to Republicans change? 371 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:11,159 Speaker 2: Yep? 372 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: Well, frankly, on an objective standpoint, a lot of the 373 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: metros indicate that the country is functioning at a pretty 374 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: high level. We are now seeing the lowest homicide rate 375 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: in America since nineteen hundred, around the time of William 376 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: McKinley's assassination and Teddy Roosevelts weren't a president McKinley mis rasion. 377 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? That's incredible, absolutely incredible. Illegal border 378 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: crossings have dropped by well over ninety percent since Joe 379 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: Biden's final days in office. The economy, most recent quarterly 380 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 1: GDP growth data we have four point four percent growth 381 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: inflation not ideal, but it's very manageable a two point 382 00:20:56,320 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: seven percent. Excuse me, folks, The data are pretty good. 383 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: So there remains this this really stubborn disconnect. Though here's 384 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 1: my two cents as to how the administration can get 385 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: around this DISCNet. It should double down at an administrative 386 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 1: level on its campaign era strategy. So the Trump Vans 387 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four campaign did a lot of things right. 388 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: Among the things that among the things that they did 389 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: right was they beautifully circumvented the mainstream corporate media and 390 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: instead they went straight to the people via highly popular strade 391 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: to the source podcasting and alternative media platforms. The Trump 392 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: administration should really do that again. Donald Trump is now 393 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: doing this mini barnstormer of the country. He was just 394 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: in Iowa last week. He was in Pennsylvania at one 395 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: point there. Apparently he might go to other states North Carolina, 396 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 1: we'll see, go to these big podcasts. Donal Trump would 397 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: probably fly to Austin, Texas, sit down with Joe Rogan, 398 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: have a bro to brow conversation about how the every 399 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,479 Speaker 1: day Joe, the every day bro is actually benefiting from 400 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: the economy. Let's see that. Because the data really are 401 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: quite good and there's no reason to be blackpilled. But 402 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 1: something has to change too, because it's not just as 403 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: one election, Folcus, there was a broader trend here. Take 404 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: with us to the break. I'm Josh Hammer. We'll be 405 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: right back on the other side. Welcome back. So a 406 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: monthly things to circle back to a conversation just before 407 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: the break. Among the things that they trump mestiration must 408 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 1: be doing in advance of the interne elections this November 409 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: is to keep your own voters in line and at 410 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 1: a bare minimum, do not be little or demoralize. Then 411 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: you know, there's this romantic notion, and it is anachronistic 412 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: and romantic. There's this romantic notion in American politics that 413 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: the battle for the hardened soul of the country and 414 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: the battle for the presidential election, the race to two 415 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: into seventy electoral College votes, that all this comes down 416 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: to the guy in the middle of the spectrum, the moderate, 417 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: the independent, the suburban mom. How many times have we 418 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: heard this over and over again through the years. I'm 419 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: not saying that it's not a thing, it is a thing. 420 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 1: And really, suburban moms of ball that they are a 421 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: very swingy demographic. So it's true to an extent, but 422 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: emphasis on to an extent because these days, in today's 423 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 1: hyper hyper partisan environments, where we increasingly silo ourselves, not 424 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: just in our social media feeds, not just in in 425 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: what channels we watch. We syl ourselves when it comes 426 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: to what house of worship we go to. We style 427 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: ourselves when it comes frankly so, maybe even to like 428 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: what accountant we use or a dentist we use. We 429 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: are oftentimes self siloing in our own echo chambers, in 430 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: our own parties, in boxes in today's day and age 431 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: like that, where there's so much rancor and resentment in 432 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: bitter rhetoric, and yes, we do believe coming more strolling 433 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: from the Democrats, I mean with their hyperbolic, outrageous rhetoric 434 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 1: comparing Republicans the Nazis and communists and all this dangerous 435 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: Luigi Maanngioni inspiring type stuff. The point is that there 436 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 1: are fewer swing voters today than there were in a 437 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 1: federal election call it fifteen twenty years ago, definitely than 438 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: forty fifty years ago, totally different vulkan increasingly right now 439 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: as we approach the twenty thirties, at this point, at 440 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: this point in the twenty first century, federal elections in 441 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: America are increasingly not swing elections but base elections. The 442 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: question is is less about how many proverbial independence moderates 443 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 1: were and moms, while important, okay, again, the question is 444 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: less about how many of them you can rally to 445 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 1: your side. The question is increasingly these days more about 446 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: base turnout, which means that if you are Republicans looking 447 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: at some of these horrific special election results when it 448 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: comes to state legislate of elections that we were just 449 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: reading a few minutes ago, and if you're looking at 450 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: this upset and forward Texas over the weekend and wondering, 451 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: how the heck do Republicans improve their policies they're tactics, messging, etc. 452 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: Or in advanced November. What that means in contest is 453 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: you motivate your base at a bare minimum. You don't 454 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: smack your base in the face. That brings us to 455 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: Alex Preddi and Minnesota. Alex Pretty is the second individual 456 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: to be killed during a standoff with Immigration forcemen with 457 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: ice in Minnesota. This is the second video that has 458 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: proven to be much more controversial. Pro publica outrageously doxing 459 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: the two agents, disgusting, disgusting tactics, doxing these these two 460 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: guys on Sunday, two guys who haven't have Hispanic class names. 461 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: For whatever that may or may not be worth, I thought, 462 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 1: I just thought that was an interesting data point. And 463 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: there's been a lot of frustration over this particular shooting. 464 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: Tom Holman essentially admitting that it's not going particularly well 465 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: or that it didn't go well. Don Trump pledging to 466 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: have an honorable internal investigation, the rumors or that Donald 467 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: Trump is personally somewhat frustrated how this happened. He knows 468 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 1: that the oppos of this are not great. One of 469 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: the interesting parts of this broader fallout, and probably one 470 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: of the reasons that Preddy was shot, although it's impossible 471 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: to say because we weren't there in the moment with 472 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: the agents, but probably was the fact that he was armed, 473 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 1: that he had a gun on him. If you listen 474 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: to the audio or watch the video, you see the 475 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: one the agent shouts gun and his gun is either 476 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: taken from his waistband or it falls off, and then 477 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: it's a mere matter of seconds later that he is 478 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: fatally shot, either by that agent who disarmed him or 479 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 1: by another agent, and this has started this whole conversation 480 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: as to this trade off, if he will, between the 481 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: solemnity of law enforcement and immigration force on the one hand, 482 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 1: versus the Second Amendment and gun rights another hand. It's 483 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 1: an unfortunate debate because it's not really debate. These two 484 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,479 Speaker 1: things are simply not at loggerheads or really an aim 485 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: to pre attention. But there's definitely been some sloppy messaging 486 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 1: from the administration on this. We're not neessingly a name names, 487 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: but just to kind of say one individual, I guess 488 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: you know. Christy Nome, Secretary of Home and Security, was 489 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: on Foxes over the weekend and facing somewhat testing interview. 490 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: Go ahead and watch this. 491 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 3: Do you still believe that Alex Pretty is a domestic terrorist? 492 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 2: You know, we're going to continue to go through with 493 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 2: this investigation and deliver information as we go forward. You know, 494 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 2: you learn something new from the reports all the time, 495 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 2: and we'll continue to do better and give factual information 496 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 2: to people as we go through every situation that's on 497 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 2: the ground. 498 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 3: So it wasn't just Democrats that you stirred up some 499 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 3: controversy with. There were a lot of second Amendment defenders 500 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 3: who were upset about your comment about pretty saying, I 501 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 3: don't know if any peaceful protester that shows up with 502 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 3: a gun and ammunition rather than a sign, and a 503 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 3: lot of people gun owners who are you rely on 504 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 3: you to be a faithful defender of the Second Amendment 505 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 3: saw that as undermining Second Amendment rights. 506 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 2: Oh, Charlie, you know I'm a carrier as well and 507 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 2: a lifetime member of the NRA. There's nobody who's in 508 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 2: more pro Second Amendment than me. What you was an individual? Yeah, 509 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 2: I think well, with that situation, we had someone who 510 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 2: is impeding a federal law enforcement operation and that had 511 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 2: been doing that for quite some time ahead of time, 512 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 2: and a background in this and everyone knows that it's 513 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,959 Speaker 2: against the law to impede a federal law enforcement investigation 514 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 2: with no ID on you and be carrying in those situations. 515 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 2: That's the law in this country. 516 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: Okay. So, like Christino, I am a daily concealed carrier. 517 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: And there was a lot of messaging that came out 518 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: of this whole situation, some folks saying that he had 519 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: that he was a domestic terrorist, that he was committing 520 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: to commit an act of mass terror, look, Alex Preddy 521 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: probably a bad dude. I mean, did he deserve to die? 522 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: I know who's the blame for that? Oh yeah, Tim Wallace, 523 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: Jacob Fry, all these idiots who were trying to stir 524 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,959 Speaker 1: up the passions in Demagoga fashion, trying to bring the 525 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: Hamas martyrm situation back to the home front. So that's 526 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: where that's where the blame is for sure. But did 527 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: Pratt deserve to die? No, he didn't deserve to die. 528 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: He didn't. There there were a lot of mistakes made, 529 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: mostly by the Democrats in refusing to abide by by 530 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: immigration law and by stirring the people's passions. There there 531 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: have been some mistakes made in the aftermath of this 532 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: as well. This is to be very candid here. Some 533 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: of the folks said that he was carrying a backup magazine, 534 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: And how dare you carry a backup magazine? 535 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 2: What? 536 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: I carry a backup magazine and a knife in addition 537 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: to my firearm every single day. Most concealed carriers I 538 00:29:54,840 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: know carry with a backup mag It's like pretty standard practice. Actually, Look, 539 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,719 Speaker 1: if you were going to peacefully protest on a sidewalk 540 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: with a sign, you have every right to carry a firearm. 541 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: What you don't have a right to do is what 542 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: pretty did we just start to kick federal vehicles and 543 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: get involved in trying to obstruct an ongoing law enforce investigation. 544 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: But a bare minimum in this sort of political climate, 545 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: Republicans are really trying to make sure they don't lose 546 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: the House in the Senate and therefore save two years 547 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: or a Trump legislative agenda. Really like, don't poop all 548 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: over the SEC Amendment for God's sake, not a good look. 549 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: I mean, Christy, don't trying to walk it back there. 550 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: But clearly some damage has been done, and I think 551 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: that some level of damage control mode is called for 552 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: here because we are all Second Man supporters, period, full stop, 553 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: end of story. If the right doesn't stand for gun rights, 554 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: then what the heck does the right stand for? But 555 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: it's actually really not just guns. It's also the abortion issue. 556 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: We've touched on this a little bit on the March 557 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: for Life usually happened in Washington, DC to administration exhibiting flexibility, 558 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: encouraging Republicans to be flexible on the High Amendment. This 559 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: long standing proscription and prohibition on taskpayer funding for abortions 560 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: that's not good RFK and the part of Health and 561 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: Human Services. And I'm actually a big fan of RFK 562 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: when it comes to a lot of this stuff, when 563 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: it comes to much of a Maha agenda, when it 564 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: comes to the new food pyramid, when it comes to 565 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: a lot of his vaccine stuff, actually support really a 566 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: lot of it. But where I don't support RFK is 567 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: where pro lifers don't support him, which is making the 568 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: abortion pill easier, the high demand of the abortion pill, 569 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: you know, pooping on concealed carriers. Why this November, folks again, 570 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: is going to be a base election? Why? Because every 571 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 1: election is a base election. Now, who's the base of 572 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: the Republican Party? Pro lifers, gun rights advocates, gun owners, 573 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: that's your base. Do we care at immigration? Hell yeah 574 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: we do. We care about it a lot on this show. 575 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: Guess what we also care about the right to life, 576 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: the Second Amendment. There being some mistakes here, I would 577 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: like to see those mistakes cleaned out because this is 578 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: going to be a base election this fall. And gun 579 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: owners are definitely none will not go for Democrats. The 580 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: question is will they be bothered to get off their 581 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: butt on their couch and go to the polls to vote 582 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: for Republicans. Stay with us with the break, folks, I'm 583 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: Josh Hammer. We'll be right back on the other side. 584 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: Welcome back. As indicated many times, including on today's show, 585 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: we are truth tellers here on this show. We don't 586 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: pull any punches, we don't hide our cards. We see 587 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: it like we see it, and we call it like 588 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: we call it. Hopefully you and the audience appreciate that. 589 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: For instance, earlier today, when talking about the outrageous ilhan 590 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: omar accumulation of wealth in shall we say, seemingly less 591 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 1: than kosher or less than halal fashion is the case, 592 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: maybe the scimulation of wealth from pennies to potentially forty 593 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: to fifty million dollars, and the contest of that. For instance, 594 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: we did mention that Marjorie Taylor Green and good riddance 595 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: to her, also had a shocking increase in wealth seemingly 596 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: say many from inside trading, and hopefully margin Tayler Green 597 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 1: will be investigated the same way that ellinor Maher is 598 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: being investigated as well. Similarly, a few minutes ago, we 599 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: have been critical and will continue to be critical as 600 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: long as they don't crest course of the administration or 601 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: at least some individuals within the administration, in the reaction 602 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: to the fatal shooting of Alex Pretty. Not because Pretty 603 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: wasn't a bad dude. He was not because federal law 604 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: must be enforced, of course it must. Not because immigration 605 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: law is fundamentally just, of course this, But because the 606 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: fact that he had a weapon does not make him 607 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: in domestic terrorists. That that he was carrying a backup 608 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: magazine like I do every day of my life life, 609 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: That doesn't make him a crazy person. Other things do, 610 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: but not that. And then the abortion stuff with the 611 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: high Amendment, I mean, what are we doing here when 612 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: it comes to the right to life issue? Not a 613 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: fan of compromising one inch when it comes to tax 614 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 1: payer funding of that most barbarical procedures that snuffs out 615 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,760 Speaker 1: the most innocent human beings in the entire homeless sapian species, 616 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: that of course being unborn children. They're nurturing in the 617 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: mother's womb. So we call it like we see it. 618 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 1: And that is why when it comes to another culture 619 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 1: war issue, the issue of transgenderism, we are very clear 620 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: that it is a lie. It is a lie, transgenderism 621 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: against humanity. It is a lie in every way that 622 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: transgenderism can possibly be a lie against humanity. It is 623 00:34:53,640 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: a lie because historically, even according to the DSM cheatricas 624 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 1: Psychological professions number one go to handbook, for decades it 625 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 1: was recognized as a mental illness. It was called gender dysphoria. 626 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: And just because a few people today happened to like 627 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: chopping off mister winkiwink cosplaying Joe was Jane or Jane 628 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: is Joe. No, we're not going to stop calling it 629 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 1: a mental illness as the professionals did for decades, because 630 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: it is now politically incorrect. We will still call it 631 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: a mental illness because that is what it is. It 632 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: is a lie against biblical revelation Genesis one twenty seven. 633 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: We know that man is made in God's image, male 634 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: and female. He created them. Is a lie against biology 635 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: and chromosomal structure. You know there are only two chromosomal structures. 636 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 1: There is xx and xy structure. Is a lie against 637 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: common sense, a lie against basic experientialism or empiricism. It 638 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: is a lie in every way that something can be 639 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 1: a lie. It's also a social craze, as Abigail Schreyer 640 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: and many others have been pointing out for years the 641 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,800 Speaker 1: data on college freshman who self identify as some variety 642 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: of LGBT but really above all transgender is shocking. The 643 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,399 Speaker 1: Prince of University Entering freshman class from about a year 644 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 1: and a half ago showed that somewhere between thirty and 645 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 1: forty percent of freshmen identified as some variety of LGBTQ 646 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 1: plus blahlah blah blah whatever. A million letters are part 647 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: of it. Now, that is insane. They don't actually think something. 648 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: They are just trying to get in on the social 649 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,240 Speaker 1: craze because it's cool, or it's hip, or you get sympathy, 650 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: maybe you get lauded as a victim in today's neo 651 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:44,760 Speaker 1: Marxis DEI woke oppress or oppressed faux neo Marxist economy. 652 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 1: Whatever it is, it's garbage. The question for a long time, 653 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: especially putting on my legal cap, has been how do 654 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: we end this? This is evil, evil stuff. You are 655 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 1: doing irreverse versible damage, irreversible physical, physiological, biological, chemical, emotional, psychological, 656 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:17,320 Speaker 1: irreversible damage to young, impressionable, vulnerable human beings prehebestence God forbid, adolescents, teenagers. 657 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:23,720 Speaker 1: It's evil, and like all evil phenomena in the history 658 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 1: of mankind. It must be defeated. The question is, how 659 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 1: do you end transgenderism in America? Not end transgenders, God forbid, 660 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 1: don't misinterpret we're saying here, no, obviously not. How do 661 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: you end the social bestowing or conferring of legitimacy on 662 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: what was once properly recognized as a mental illness that 663 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:49,319 Speaker 1: is fit for a psychiatrists, psychologist to talk you out 664 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 1: of it, et cetera, as opposed to bestowing legitimacy on 665 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 1: mentallliness by doing chemical procedures, et cetera, et cetera. Well, 666 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: we might just have the answer, folks. For the first time, 667 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 1: in a landmark lawsuit, an individual name of Fox Variants, 668 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 1: the first time this has happened, won a gargantuan two 669 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 1: million dollar medical malpractice lawsuit against New York medical professionals 670 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 1: who were accused and ultimately will to be found liable 671 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 1: of doing a double meseptoony on her when she was 672 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 1: a minor. So Fox Variant is now one of these 673 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 1: d transitioners, someone who quote unquote transitions and then realizes 674 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 1: that this is a lie and then tries to quote 675 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 1: unquote transition back Fox variant is now twenty two years old. 676 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 1: Was awarded one point six million dollars for future pain 677 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: suffering and an additional four thousand dollars for future medical expenses. 678 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 1: It is the first massive d transitioner medical malpractice lawsuit 679 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:56,919 Speaker 1: to go to trial and win. Interestingly enough, has actually 680 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 1: happened in my home county of Western Acuiot of New 681 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: York I, very liberal county actually, so clearly that didn't 682 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: stop this year. This is the path to victory. I've 683 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 1: been saying this for years. The way that you end 684 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 1: transgenders in America, in my estimation, is you get a 685 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: massive national class action. Easier to than done. Class certification 686 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: is well, it's easier for some liberal judges, it's harder 687 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 1: for some more concertive judges. There. It's not easy, but 688 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,399 Speaker 1: you you try to do it. You try to get 689 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 1: some sort of class certification where you bring a bunch 690 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 1: of people who've been similarly wrong together to bring claims 691 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 1: against against doctors medical professionals there and if you get 692 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 1: some gangbusters blockbuster lawsuit, and trust me, there will be 693 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 1: no shortage of lawyers who would want to bring this 694 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:52,320 Speaker 1: case that potentially that potentially could actually have the effect, 695 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 1: the chilling effect, the righteous and proper and wholly justified 696 00:39:56,040 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 1: chilling effect of essentially ending so called TRENSI surgeries in America. 697 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,479 Speaker 1: A lot of this is currently happening organically, to be clear. 698 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 1: So there's a headline over the weekends and speaking of 699 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 1: Blue States, not as New York, but actually out in 700 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 1: the Pacific Northwest in Washington States, Multi Care mary Bridge 701 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 1: Hospital out in Washington State has announced that they will 702 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 1: no longer provide puberty blocking drugs or perform some of 703 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,399 Speaker 1: these chemical castoration quote unquote surgeries on minors. So they're 704 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 1: doing it because the Trump Ministration properly is treading to 705 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,439 Speaker 1: defund all medical facilities that do this. There. So look, 706 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 1: you have a lot of possible ways forward. You have 707 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:37,120 Speaker 1: the funding tool. The Trumpministration has been very very good 708 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 1: at that at trying its best to defund when the 709 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,320 Speaker 1: confines of the law. Congress will close pass new laws 710 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 1: when the confines of extent existing law. The Trumpministration is 711 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,320 Speaker 1: indeed currently trying to defund as much much of this 712 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:55,720 Speaker 1: absolute garbage as possible. There also should be a legal 713 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,839 Speaker 1: a legal stick, and that basically is this class action 714 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 1: idea that I'm talking about here. The judgment could be astronomical. Frankly, 715 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,359 Speaker 1: it could single handily be the kill shot to end 716 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 1: this insanity. But just to here. In New York State, 717 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 1: over the past few days, psychologist Kenneth Einhorn and surgeon 718 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,799 Speaker 1: Simon Chin held responsible in Westchester County Supreme Court in 719 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 1: White Plains, New York, where I was born. White Plans, 720 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 1: New York. They were responsible for ignoring standards of care 721 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 1: and procedural guardrails. This has potential to absolutely explode now 722 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 1: that you see these quote unquote doctors aka these mongolies 723 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 1: were butchering people into your versial damage. What are the 724 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,200 Speaker 1: doctors gonna want to step in there once you know 725 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 1: you could be held liable there it's a domino effect. 726 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,840 Speaker 1: It all stops. And that has to happen, not just 727 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 1: for the sake of glorifying God's kingdom here on this earth, 728 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: that's obviously what all men and women of faith tried do, 729 00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 1: but for sanity, for common sense, and yes, in this case, 730 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 1: for the children. There is no world which vulnerable children 731 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 1: should be preyed upon and taken advantage and sold a 732 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,719 Speaker 1: basket of lies. A man cannot become a woman. A 733 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 1: woman cannot become a man. We know this every way 734 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 1: we can possibly know it, and finally, for the first time, 735 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,240 Speaker 1: we have a judgment in a medical amount practice lawsuit 736 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 1: that is affirming that notion that comments as people have 737 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 1: been holding for years and years and years. God Speed, 738 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 1: much more to come, folks. Have a great rest of 739 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 1: your evening. Josh Hammer signing off for now. We'll see 740 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 1: right back here at the Josh Hammer Show tomorrow.