1 00:00:02,700 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: Life Audio. 2 00:00:03,660 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 2: Have you ever found yourself thinking about worst case scenarios, 3 00:00:10,110 --> 00:00:16,030 Speaker 2: constantly mentally rehearsing everything that could go wrong, following the 4 00:00:16,450 --> 00:00:22,210 Speaker 2: what if train into oblivion, or thinking thoughts like you're 5 00:00:22,250 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 2: not safe, you're not enough, you're going to fail, you're 6 00:00:28,340 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: going to lose control, something bad is going to happen. 7 00:00:33,130 --> 00:00:37,830 Speaker 2: If so, you have probably struggled to some degree with worry, fear, 8 00:00:38,130 --> 00:00:42,050 Speaker 2: and anxiety. Today on Your Hope-Filled Perspective, we're having an honest, 9 00:00:42,190 --> 00:00:46,779 Speaker 2: hope-filled conversation about what to do when you struggle with worry, fear, 10 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 2: or anxiety. Welcome to Your Hope-Filled Perspective, where it's always 11 00:00:50,620 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: our goal to restore hope, renew minds, and empower listeners 12 00:00:54,380 --> 00:00:57,740 Speaker 2: to live in your God-given identity. I'm your host, Dr. 13 00:00:57,780 --> 00:01:03,830 Speaker 2: Michelle Bankson, board-certified clinical neuropsychologist, author, speaker, and and companion 14 00:01:03,990 --> 00:01:07,910 Speaker 2: in your journey to mental, emotional, and spiritual wellness. I'm 15 00:01:07,950 --> 00:01:10,350 Speaker 2: delighted you've chosen to spend a few minutes of your 16 00:01:10,370 --> 00:01:13,310 Speaker 2: week with us. If you were with us in part 17 00:01:13,690 --> 00:01:16,130 Speaker 2: one of Fear is a Liar, we talked about what 18 00:01:16,209 --> 00:01:20,310 Speaker 2: anxiety is, why does it feel so powerful, how it 19 00:01:20,370 --> 00:01:24,630 Speaker 2: lies to us, and how to recognize those lies. Today, 20 00:01:24,650 --> 00:01:27,270 Speaker 2: we're going to be talking about what to do when 21 00:01:27,310 --> 00:01:31,230 Speaker 2: you struggle with worry, fear, or anxiety, how to reclaim 22 00:01:31,290 --> 00:01:36,059 Speaker 2: God's peace in your body, mind, and nervous system, and 23 00:01:36,180 --> 00:01:40,100 Speaker 2: how to trust God more so that our trust is 24 00:01:40,260 --> 00:01:43,300 Speaker 2: louder than our fear. We're going to dive into that 25 00:01:43,540 --> 00:01:55,460 Speaker 2: right after this brief word from our sponsor. as someone 26 00:01:55,560 --> 00:02:00,140 Speaker 2: who has experienced it personally, is that anxiety rarely announces 27 00:02:00,220 --> 00:02:05,620 Speaker 2: itself as anxiety at first. It is a master deceiver 28 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: and it often comes disguised as concern, responsibility, as vigilance, 29 00:02:14,260 --> 00:02:23,310 Speaker 2: as perfectionism, as control, as over-functioning, or as people-pleasing, or 30 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,940 Speaker 2: One of my past favorites, productivity. But beneath all of 31 00:02:29,060 --> 00:02:34,549 Speaker 2: that is often fear. And fear is a liar. Anxiety 32 00:02:34,850 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 2: is loud, but it is not Lord. Fear is intense, 33 00:02:40,139 --> 00:02:45,150 Speaker 2: but it's not truthful. and you are not powerless against it. 34 00:02:45,510 --> 00:02:49,090 Speaker 2: Romans 12 2 tells us, do not conform to the 35 00:02:49,130 --> 00:02:53,310 Speaker 2: pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing 36 00:02:53,690 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: of your mind. That verse means that transformation is possible. 37 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 2: Your mind is not fixed. Your thought patterns can change. 38 00:03:05,100 --> 00:03:10,020 Speaker 2: Your emotional responses can heal. Your habits can be retrained 39 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:16,340 Speaker 2: and God has designed your brain with incredible capacity for renewal. Friends, 40 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 2: this is not just spiritual hope. It's also a reflection 41 00:03:20,940 --> 00:03:24,530 Speaker 2: of how God wired the human mind. The brain has 42 00:03:24,590 --> 00:03:29,310 Speaker 2: the ability to form new pathways through repeated thoughts and practices. 43 00:03:29,590 --> 00:03:33,450 Speaker 2: It's what in my profession we refer to as neuroplasticity. 44 00:03:34,190 --> 00:03:36,369 Speaker 2: But what you need to know is that what you 45 00:03:36,470 --> 00:03:41,970 Speaker 2: focus on grows. So when we keep rehearsing fear and 46 00:03:42,130 --> 00:03:47,580 Speaker 2: anxious thoughts and worry, we strengthen worry, fear, and anxiety. 47 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 2: But when we keep rehearsing truth, we strengthen trust. This 48 00:03:54,740 --> 00:03:59,580 Speaker 2: is why awareness matters. You cannot interrupt a lie that 49 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,869 Speaker 2: you haven't identified. And you cannot replace a thought you've 50 00:04:03,930 --> 00:04:09,790 Speaker 2: not first noticed. So how do we begin to replace 51 00:04:10,210 --> 00:04:14,370 Speaker 2: fear with truth in daily life? In part one, I 52 00:04:14,410 --> 00:04:17,909 Speaker 2: gave you lots of examples. But one of the most 53 00:04:17,970 --> 00:04:21,010 Speaker 2: practical tools that I teach people is what I call 54 00:04:21,410 --> 00:04:26,210 Speaker 2: truth replacement. Notice an anxious thought. And in part one, 55 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: we talked about how do we recognize such thoughts. When 56 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,140 Speaker 2: you notice an anxious thought, don't simply tell yourself to 57 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:37,190 Speaker 2: stop thinking about it. That does not work. You will 58 00:04:37,350 --> 00:04:42,270 Speaker 2: only think about it more. Instead, you identify the lie 59 00:04:42,670 --> 00:04:47,380 Speaker 2: and intentionally replace it with a specific promise from God's word. 60 00:04:47,540 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 2: So I have some examples for you. The lie says, 61 00:04:51,940 --> 00:04:56,310 Speaker 2: I'm not enough. But the truth from 2 Corinthians 12 62 00:04:56,310 --> 00:05:00,969 Speaker 2: 9 says, but his grace is sufficient for me. The 63 00:05:01,029 --> 00:05:03,470 Speaker 2: lie says, I'm never going to get through this. But 64 00:05:03,529 --> 00:05:07,610 Speaker 2: the truth from Isaiah 41 10 says, the Lord will 65 00:05:07,650 --> 00:05:13,500 Speaker 2: strengthen me and uphold me. The lie says, this pain 66 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:17,719 Speaker 2: will define me forever. But the truth of Philippians 1 says, 67 00:05:17,900 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 2: he who began a good work in me will carry 68 00:05:22,180 --> 00:05:27,380 Speaker 2: it on to completion. This is renewing your mind. This 69 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:32,620 Speaker 2: is retraining your inner dialogue. That is what learning to 70 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 2: let truth speak louder than fear looks like. But it 71 00:05:37,980 --> 00:05:40,539 Speaker 2: takes practice. I wish I could tell you that after 72 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 2: I learned these principles, anxiety never showed up again in 73 00:05:44,020 --> 00:05:48,940 Speaker 2: my life. But that wouldn't be honest. The truth is 74 00:05:49,050 --> 00:05:53,290 Speaker 2: that fear has tried to return many times before. But 75 00:05:53,490 --> 00:05:56,390 Speaker 2: now I know what to do when it does. I 76 00:05:56,450 --> 00:05:58,330 Speaker 2: do not have to obey it. I do not have 77 00:05:58,370 --> 00:06:01,409 Speaker 2: to amplify it. I do not have to give it authority. 78 00:06:01,430 --> 00:06:04,589 Speaker 2: I can notice it. I can name it. And I 79 00:06:04,650 --> 00:06:09,020 Speaker 2: can answer it with the word of God. About a 80 00:06:09,100 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 2: decade ago, I had just turned in the manuscript for 81 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,900 Speaker 2: Breaking Anxiety script, How to Reclaim the Peace God Promises. 82 00:06:17,060 --> 00:06:19,860 Speaker 2: I just turned in the manuscript for that book to 83 00:06:19,900 --> 00:06:25,090 Speaker 2: my editor. In about a week, Later, my husband and 84 00:06:25,110 --> 00:06:27,849 Speaker 2: I were driving to an oncology appointment to see his 85 00:06:27,930 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 2: oncologist and to get some test results for tests that 86 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 2: she had recently run. On the way there, my phone 87 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,220 Speaker 2: rang and I looked down and caller ID informed me 88 00:06:37,260 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 2: that it was my doctor's office calling. What? I just 89 00:06:41,060 --> 00:06:44,180 Speaker 2: assumed since I had had an appointment recently that they 90 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,460 Speaker 2: were calling me about an outstanding bill. You know how 91 00:06:46,500 --> 00:06:48,980 Speaker 2: it is. You go see the doctor, you have tests run, 92 00:06:49,020 --> 00:06:51,740 Speaker 2: you pay the bill, and then you're forever getting additional 93 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 2: bills in the mail that don't ever make sense. And 94 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: so I assumed they were just calling about an outstanding 95 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 2: statement or something. So I answered and on the other line, 96 00:06:59,740 --> 00:07:02,900 Speaker 2: I heard, is this Dr. Bankson? And I said, yes. 97 00:07:03,410 --> 00:07:05,910 Speaker 2: They said, Dr. Bankson, I'm so sorry to tell you this, 98 00:07:06,010 --> 00:07:10,610 Speaker 2: but you have cancer. And we need to schedule you 99 00:07:10,650 --> 00:07:15,050 Speaker 2: for surgery right away. Friends, you have heard about fight, flight, 100 00:07:15,470 --> 00:07:21,010 Speaker 2: or freeze. Well, in that moment, I froze. At first, 101 00:07:21,070 --> 00:07:25,650 Speaker 2: I couldn't think of anything. And then I found myself thinking, oh, no, 102 00:07:25,690 --> 00:07:28,390 Speaker 2: they must have the wrong person. I feel just fine. Well, 103 00:07:28,410 --> 00:07:30,650 Speaker 2: a voice interrupted my thoughts and said, Dr. Bankston, are 104 00:07:30,670 --> 00:07:32,670 Speaker 2: you there? I said, yes, yes, I'm here. She said, well, 105 00:07:32,710 --> 00:07:35,090 Speaker 2: we need to schedule you for surgery. Can we do 106 00:07:35,130 --> 00:07:38,890 Speaker 2: that right now? And friends, I could not figure out 107 00:07:38,990 --> 00:07:41,250 Speaker 2: for the life of me how to talk to her 108 00:07:41,390 --> 00:07:44,670 Speaker 2: on my phone and call up my calendar to look 109 00:07:44,690 --> 00:07:47,380 Speaker 2: at my schedule to see when we could schedule this. 110 00:07:47,420 --> 00:07:50,060 Speaker 2: So I said, no, no, I'm sorry. I'm on my 111 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:51,460 Speaker 2: way to an appointment. I'm going to have to call 112 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 2: you back when I have my calendar in front of me. 113 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 2: So we hung up and I was quiet for a moment. 114 00:07:56,380 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 2: And my husband said, honey, are you okay? And I said, no, 115 00:08:00,660 --> 00:08:04,050 Speaker 2: they just said I have cancer. About that time we 116 00:08:04,090 --> 00:08:07,190 Speaker 2: were pulling into the parking lot for his oncologist and 117 00:08:07,530 --> 00:08:09,710 Speaker 2: We walked into the building hand in hand and he 118 00:08:09,770 --> 00:08:11,850 Speaker 2: checked in and we sat down to wait for his 119 00:08:11,890 --> 00:08:14,550 Speaker 2: name to be called and we sat there in silence. 120 00:08:16,890 --> 00:08:19,010 Speaker 2: And then all the what ifs started. What if they 121 00:08:19,030 --> 00:08:21,710 Speaker 2: had the wrong person? What if the tests were wrong? 122 00:08:22,950 --> 00:08:26,940 Speaker 2: What if we didn't catch it in time? What if 123 00:08:26,980 --> 00:08:32,030 Speaker 2: surgery doesn't get it all? And about that time, the 124 00:08:32,070 --> 00:08:34,609 Speaker 2: Lord got my attention. Now I've told you, I've never 125 00:08:34,650 --> 00:08:36,670 Speaker 2: heard the audible voice of God, but it was like 126 00:08:36,710 --> 00:08:38,550 Speaker 2: a whisper in my heart. That's the only way I 127 00:08:38,590 --> 00:08:43,390 Speaker 2: know how to describe it. And I just, in my mind, 128 00:08:43,650 --> 00:08:47,569 Speaker 2: I had thoughts that would not normally be my thoughts. 129 00:08:47,929 --> 00:08:51,729 Speaker 2: And it said, I have just given you the prescription 130 00:08:52,250 --> 00:08:55,150 Speaker 2: for how you will get through this next phase of 131 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,689 Speaker 2: your journey. Are you going to listen to the lies 132 00:08:57,730 --> 00:09:00,089 Speaker 2: of worry, fear, and anxiety? Or are you going to 133 00:09:00,150 --> 00:09:02,460 Speaker 2: live in peace and trust me to see you through it? 134 00:09:02,570 --> 00:09:05,750 Speaker 2: Because this didn't take me by surprise. And I'm not 135 00:09:05,809 --> 00:09:07,930 Speaker 2: in heaven wringing my hands trying to figure out how 136 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,900 Speaker 2: we're going to get you through this. And he was right. 137 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:15,380 Speaker 2: I had just written Breaking Anxiety's script. I had just 138 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 2: written the prescription for what to do when real life 139 00:09:19,460 --> 00:09:23,850 Speaker 2: circumstances bring about worry, fear, and anxiety. But I do 140 00:09:23,890 --> 00:09:25,870 Speaker 2: have to tell you that there was a time in 141 00:09:25,929 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 2: my journey when I felt overwhelmed and deeply inadequate. Even 142 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 2: as I was writing Breaking Anxiety script, I remember thinking, Lord, 143 00:09:35,500 --> 00:09:38,660 Speaker 2: how can I teach others about peace when I still 144 00:09:38,750 --> 00:09:43,569 Speaker 2: struggle myself? You see, I had written my first book, 145 00:09:44,610 --> 00:09:48,569 Speaker 2: Hope Prevails, Insights from a Doctor's Personal Journey Through Depression, 146 00:09:49,030 --> 00:09:55,179 Speaker 2: after I made it out of debilitating depression. So I 147 00:09:55,220 --> 00:09:59,790 Speaker 2: was looking back on depression and writing about what I 148 00:09:59,850 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 2: had learned that would help other people. As I was 149 00:10:03,940 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 2: writing Breaking Anxiety script, I was walking through it. And 150 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 2: in that moment, God gently reminded me that I wasn't 151 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 2: teaching from a place of perfection. I was teaching from 152 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,410 Speaker 2: a place of grace. So friends, I'm not sharing because 153 00:10:18,470 --> 00:10:22,230 Speaker 2: I have arrived. I'm Sharing because I have learned where 154 00:10:22,260 --> 00:10:24,610 Speaker 2: to go. And I think that might be important for 155 00:10:24,630 --> 00:10:26,670 Speaker 2: you to hear too. You do not have to be 156 00:10:26,730 --> 00:10:30,310 Speaker 2: perfectly healed to be useful in God's hands. You do 157 00:10:30,370 --> 00:10:34,590 Speaker 2: not have to have mastered your emotions to walk in obedience. 158 00:10:34,929 --> 00:10:37,390 Speaker 2: And you do not have to wait until you feel 159 00:10:37,620 --> 00:10:44,860 Speaker 2: fearless before you begin living faithfully. Joshua 1.9 says, Have 160 00:10:44,940 --> 00:10:49,990 Speaker 2: I not commanded you, be strong and courageous? Do not 161 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,310 Speaker 2: be afraid and do not be discouraged for the Lord 162 00:10:53,370 --> 00:10:59,870 Speaker 2: your God will be with you wherever you go. Whenever 163 00:10:59,950 --> 00:11:03,829 Speaker 2: we read that word will in the Bible, we can 164 00:11:03,870 --> 00:11:08,130 Speaker 2: consider it done because God has never broken a promises. 165 00:11:08,210 --> 00:11:11,500 Speaker 2: And when he says something, he will do it. Courage 166 00:11:11,980 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 2: is not the absence of fear. Courage is obedience in 167 00:11:17,059 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 2: the presence of fear. because you trust the one who 168 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:29,140 Speaker 2: goes with you. So we have talked about truth replacement, 169 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,300 Speaker 2: but I want to give you several other practical tips 170 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 2: for how can we replace worry, fear, and anxiety with 171 00:11:39,950 --> 00:11:43,110 Speaker 2: God's peace. And we'll dive into that right after this 172 00:11:43,170 --> 00:11:49,750 Speaker 2: brief word from our sponsor. So we've talked about truth replacement, 173 00:11:49,929 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 2: and that is a big part of breaking free of worry, fear, 174 00:11:54,650 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 2: and anxiety. But we also want to reclaim the peace 175 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:00,900 Speaker 2: that God promises. So I want to give you some 176 00:12:00,980 --> 00:12:05,900 Speaker 2: practical strategies for how to do that. First, start your 177 00:12:05,980 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 2: day with truth before the world starts with noise. Before 178 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 2: you check your phone, before you read the news, before 179 00:12:16,100 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 2: you open your inbox, open the word of God. Let 180 00:12:20,750 --> 00:12:28,770 Speaker 2: scripture speak before anxiety does. Even one verse can reorient 181 00:12:28,950 --> 00:12:33,170 Speaker 2: your heart. And if you don't know where to go, 182 00:12:33,270 --> 00:12:36,030 Speaker 2: pick up a copy of Breaking Anxiety script because I 183 00:12:36,090 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 2: have tons of helpful scripture in there. Second, Speak the 184 00:12:43,179 --> 00:12:49,100 Speaker 2: truth out loud. Romans 10, 17 says, faith comes by 185 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,359 Speaker 2: hearing and hearing by the word of God. Friends, there 186 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:58,809 Speaker 2: is something so powerful about hearing your own voice declare 187 00:12:58,929 --> 00:13:03,510 Speaker 2: the truth of God's word. When that scripture says, faith 188 00:13:03,590 --> 00:13:07,699 Speaker 2: comes by hearing, I take that literally because sometimes we 189 00:13:07,740 --> 00:13:10,140 Speaker 2: need to get the scripture from our head down into 190 00:13:10,220 --> 00:13:16,870 Speaker 2: our heart. Remind yourself of the truth. God is with me. 191 00:13:18,070 --> 00:13:23,030 Speaker 2: Say the truth. I'm not alone. Say the truth. The 192 00:13:23,250 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 2: Lord is my shepherd and I shall not want. Remind 193 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 2: yourself of the truth. The peace of God will guard 194 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:40,990 Speaker 2: my heart and mind. Third, practice thanksgiving. Philippians 4, 6 195 00:13:40,990 --> 00:13:45,699 Speaker 2: says that prayer and petition should be accompanied by thanksgiving. 196 00:13:46,940 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 2: Gratitude is not pretending everything is easy. Gratitude is remembering 197 00:13:52,059 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 2: that God has been faithful before and acknowledging that he 198 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 2: will be faithful again. Gratitude shifts the focus from what 199 00:14:02,380 --> 00:14:07,929 Speaker 2: we think is missing to who is present. Philippians 4, 200 00:14:07,929 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 2: 6 reminds us, do not be anxious about anything, but 201 00:14:12,780 --> 00:14:19,260 Speaker 2: in every situation by prayer and petition with thanksgiving, present 202 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:25,270 Speaker 2: your requests to God. Fourth, limit inputs that inflame fear. 203 00:14:25,910 --> 00:14:29,770 Speaker 2: Not everything that is available to your mind is healthy 204 00:14:30,190 --> 00:14:32,910 Speaker 2: for your mind. And some of us are trying to 205 00:14:32,950 --> 00:14:37,850 Speaker 2: become peaceful, yet we're feeding our minds with endless fear, comparison, 206 00:14:38,270 --> 00:14:43,030 Speaker 2: and bad news. And wisdom sometimes looks like protecting your 207 00:14:43,100 --> 00:14:46,500 Speaker 2: attentional resources. I remember when my husband was diagnosed with 208 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:50,619 Speaker 2: cancer and he was given a very grim prognosis. It 209 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,980 Speaker 2: was during that time that we decided to no longer 210 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,820 Speaker 2: watch the evening news and to no longer get the 211 00:14:56,860 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 2: daily newspapers. We wanted to limit as much as we 212 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:05,670 Speaker 2: could negative inputs from pervading our minds and our home. 213 00:15:05,890 --> 00:15:09,570 Speaker 2: We wanted to focus on the truth of God's word 214 00:15:09,670 --> 00:15:15,430 Speaker 2: and stay positive. So limit inputs that inflame worry, fear, 215 00:15:15,590 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 2: and anxiety. And fifth, invite trusted believers to help you 216 00:15:21,060 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 2: hold on to truth. We were never meant to fight alone, friends. 217 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:30,110 Speaker 2: Sometimes peace comes through prayer. from another brother or sister 218 00:15:30,170 --> 00:15:35,270 Speaker 2: in Christ. Sometimes it comes through counsel. Sometimes it comes 219 00:15:35,350 --> 00:15:40,380 Speaker 2: through community. God often uses his people to remind us 220 00:15:40,500 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 2: of his promises when our own hearts feel too shaky 221 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 2: to remember them. I love Isaiah 26, 3 that says, 222 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 2: you will keep in perfect peace those whose minds are 223 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:59,730 Speaker 2: steadfast because they trust in you. Notice the connection. Peace 224 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:04,370 Speaker 2: and trust are linked. A steadfast mind is not a 225 00:16:04,390 --> 00:16:08,090 Speaker 2: mind that never experiences fear. It is a mind that 226 00:16:08,150 --> 00:16:12,330 Speaker 2: keeps returning to God. That's what we're after here. Not 227 00:16:12,370 --> 00:16:16,410 Speaker 2: a perfect life, not a perfect absence of anxious thoughts, 228 00:16:16,710 --> 00:16:21,410 Speaker 2: but a steady return to the presence and promises of God. 229 00:16:22,980 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 2: And we reclaim peace through practicing faith and learning how 230 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,980 Speaker 2: to trust God more. Now we come to the part 231 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 2: where truth becomes a lifestyle. Peace is not just something 232 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:42,260 Speaker 2: we receive once. It's something we practice daily. Jesus said 233 00:16:42,370 --> 00:16:44,250 Speaker 2: in John 14, 27, Peace I leave with you. My 234 00:16:44,510 --> 00:16:49,250 Speaker 2: peace I give you. I do not give to you 235 00:16:49,330 --> 00:16:51,870 Speaker 2: as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be 236 00:16:51,910 --> 00:16:55,730 Speaker 2: troubled and do not be afraid. But I want you 237 00:16:55,770 --> 00:16:59,100 Speaker 2: to notice something very important in that verse. Jesus does 238 00:16:59,150 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 2: not say, peace I will try to give you someday 239 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 2: if everything works out. No, he says, peace I leave 240 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,660 Speaker 2: with you. It is already given. It's already available. It's 241 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:17,189 Speaker 2: already yours in him. The world gives us peace conditionally. 242 00:17:17,369 --> 00:17:20,889 Speaker 2: The world says you can have peace if your schedule clears, 243 00:17:20,910 --> 00:17:25,100 Speaker 2: if your health improves, if your finances stabilize, if your 244 00:17:25,140 --> 00:17:30,820 Speaker 2: relationships become easier, if everyone approves of you. But that's 245 00:17:30,859 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 2: the world. Jesus gives peace differently. His peace is not 246 00:17:36,420 --> 00:17:42,660 Speaker 2: dependent on external conditions. It is rooted in his presence 247 00:17:43,060 --> 00:17:50,369 Speaker 2: because he is peace. our peace. That's good news because friends, 248 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:54,730 Speaker 2: that means peace is not something we chase. It's something 249 00:17:54,950 --> 00:18:01,449 Speaker 2: we cultivate. And we cultivate peace by trusting God is 250 00:18:01,690 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 2: bigger than our circumstances. Anxiety results from living in a 251 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 2: place of dread instead of victory. Worry comes from living 252 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:18,130 Speaker 2: in the future without God. But peace comes from living 253 00:18:18,190 --> 00:18:22,690 Speaker 2: in the present and remembering what has already been accomplished 254 00:18:22,750 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 2: in the past to assure us of our future. The 255 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 2: problem is we tend to approach life thinking, show me 256 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:35,619 Speaker 2: God and then I'll trust you. But God tells us 257 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:41,530 Speaker 2: to trust him and then he'll show us. Really, at 258 00:18:41,570 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 2: the heart of it, faith entails having the courage to 259 00:18:45,820 --> 00:18:51,300 Speaker 2: give God control. Henry Ward Beecher says, Every tomorrow has 260 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 2: two handles. We take hold of it either with the 261 00:18:54,440 --> 00:19:02,270 Speaker 2: handle of anxiety or the handle of faith. I considered 262 00:19:02,369 --> 00:19:06,030 Speaker 2: peace and even trust an intangible. It was something I 263 00:19:06,090 --> 00:19:09,430 Speaker 2: couldn't quite wrap my head around. Both of those terms 264 00:19:09,510 --> 00:19:12,469 Speaker 2: sounded like things you'd hear in a Christmas carol or 265 00:19:12,490 --> 00:19:15,530 Speaker 2: a Sunday hymn. And so I really asked the Lord 266 00:19:15,710 --> 00:19:20,250 Speaker 2: to help me understand how to trust him more. Scripture 267 00:19:20,290 --> 00:19:24,730 Speaker 2: tells us to trust in the Lord with all your heart. Now, 268 00:19:25,010 --> 00:19:27,690 Speaker 2: I found that it was easy to trust God sometimes 269 00:19:28,060 --> 00:19:30,290 Speaker 2: for the big things like The fact that I could 270 00:19:30,350 --> 00:19:32,650 Speaker 2: board an airplane and I could go from one end 271 00:19:32,690 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 2: of the country to another and I would be fine. 272 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,500 Speaker 2: But sometimes I found it harder to trust God in 273 00:19:38,540 --> 00:19:43,379 Speaker 2: the day to day. Would there be enough funds in 274 00:19:43,420 --> 00:19:46,390 Speaker 2: the bank account to make it through the month? Would 275 00:19:46,430 --> 00:19:49,970 Speaker 2: he heal my sick child? Would he help me survive? 276 00:19:50,350 --> 00:19:52,910 Speaker 2: in my work preparation? So what I have for you 277 00:19:52,970 --> 00:19:56,670 Speaker 2: today is an acronym that I think will help you 278 00:19:56,790 --> 00:20:00,129 Speaker 2: when you're confronted with worry, fear, or anxiety, and you 279 00:20:00,190 --> 00:20:03,930 Speaker 2: desire to exchange that worry, fear, and anxiety for God's peace. 280 00:20:04,710 --> 00:20:07,460 Speaker 2: We're going to talk about that right after this brief 281 00:20:07,500 --> 00:20:13,429 Speaker 2: word from our sponsor. As we wrap up this episode, 282 00:20:13,810 --> 00:20:17,990 Speaker 2: I really want to help you know how you can 283 00:20:18,170 --> 00:20:22,770 Speaker 2: increase your faith, how you can trust God more so 284 00:20:22,790 --> 00:20:27,100 Speaker 2: that you can exchange worry, fear, and anxiety for his peace. 285 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 2: So the acronym quite simply is TRUST. T-R-U-S-T. The first 286 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:39,260 Speaker 2: T is to take God at his word. Now, that 287 00:20:39,300 --> 00:20:45,830 Speaker 2: can be a hard word. tall order sometimes. But Numbers 23, 288 00:20:45,830 --> 00:20:49,429 Speaker 2: 19 says, God is not people who lie. He is 289 00:20:49,590 --> 00:20:54,129 Speaker 2: not a human who changes his mind. Whatever he promises, 290 00:20:54,450 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: he does. He speaks and it is done. Friends, are 291 00:20:59,980 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 2: we going to believe God or not? During that time 292 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,859 Speaker 2: when I was really struggling with worry, fear, and anxiety, 293 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,139 Speaker 2: and I was struggling to trust God. It was almost 294 00:21:09,180 --> 00:21:11,100 Speaker 2: like I sensed God saying, do you trust me? And 295 00:21:11,180 --> 00:21:14,020 Speaker 2: I said, well, yes, Lord. And then I sensed him saying, 296 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:19,620 Speaker 2: do you trust me in everything? Because if you don't 297 00:21:19,700 --> 00:21:22,990 Speaker 2: trust me in everything, you don't trust me. 298 00:21:23,470 --> 00:21:23,710 Speaker 1: Ouch. 299 00:21:24,250 --> 00:21:28,169 Speaker 2: And that's when I realized, was I really taking God 300 00:21:28,390 --> 00:21:31,149 Speaker 2: at his word and believing that if he said it, 301 00:21:31,630 --> 00:21:35,020 Speaker 2: it is so? So T is take God at his word. 302 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 2: R is to rest in his presence and his promises. 303 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 2: Matthew 11, 28 to 30 says, come to me, all 304 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,260 Speaker 2: you who are weary and heavy laden, and I will 305 00:21:46,380 --> 00:21:50,420 Speaker 2: give you rest. So often we read in the scriptures 306 00:21:50,460 --> 00:21:53,340 Speaker 2: that God wants us to do something first before he 307 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,660 Speaker 2: does something. In this example, he says, come to me, 308 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:01,470 Speaker 2: just come to me, then I will give you rest. Friends, 309 00:22:01,710 --> 00:22:04,950 Speaker 2: if God says it, He will do it. When we 310 00:22:05,090 --> 00:22:08,550 Speaker 2: read the word will in the scripture, it is a guarantee. 311 00:22:08,570 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 2: We can be guaranteed of both his presence and his promises. 312 00:22:16,500 --> 00:22:19,180 Speaker 2: But I remember a hard time in my life when 313 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,419 Speaker 2: I struggled to remember his promises. So I began to 314 00:22:22,500 --> 00:22:25,859 Speaker 2: write them out and I began to rehearse them. and 315 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 2: recite those promises before I even got out of bed 316 00:22:29,260 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 2: in the morning. That is what eventually became my devotional book. 317 00:22:34,100 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 2: Today is going to be a good day. 90 promises 318 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 2: from God to start your day off right. So if 319 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,649 Speaker 2: you struggle to remember some of his promises, it's okay. 320 00:22:42,850 --> 00:22:45,690 Speaker 2: I did too. Consider picking up a copy if today 321 00:22:45,770 --> 00:22:47,990 Speaker 2: is going to be a good day. Now back to 322 00:22:48,050 --> 00:22:50,790 Speaker 2: our trust acronym. T is take God at his word. 323 00:22:51,109 --> 00:22:53,649 Speaker 2: R is rest in his presence and promises. U is 324 00:22:54,619 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 2: love this one, is understand the outcome doesn't depend on us. 325 00:22:59,780 --> 00:23:01,810 Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but that took such a 326 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:06,449 Speaker 2: heavy weight off my shoulders. I'm one who likes to 327 00:23:06,490 --> 00:23:11,010 Speaker 2: be in control, but the reality is we control very little. Yes, 328 00:23:11,190 --> 00:23:13,970 Speaker 2: God will ask us to do some things. He will 329 00:23:14,030 --> 00:23:16,889 Speaker 2: have things come up in our path that He wants 330 00:23:16,970 --> 00:23:21,010 Speaker 2: us to obey. But if I will be obedient to 331 00:23:21,070 --> 00:23:23,770 Speaker 2: do what he's called me to do, then I can 332 00:23:23,890 --> 00:23:27,649 Speaker 2: leave him with the outcome. So when we do our part, 333 00:23:28,150 --> 00:23:30,930 Speaker 2: then we can trust God for the outcome. So you 334 00:23:31,109 --> 00:23:34,740 Speaker 2: understand that the outcome doesn't depend on us. Trusting God 335 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 2: takes the responsibility for the outcome off our shoulders and 336 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:44,820 Speaker 2: places it onto God's much more capable shoulders. The S 337 00:23:45,340 --> 00:23:50,050 Speaker 2: stands for accept that God is sovereign. What does that mean? 338 00:23:50,970 --> 00:23:56,100 Speaker 2: It means recognize God is in control. It means remember 339 00:23:56,660 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 2: that he works all things together for good for those 340 00:24:00,700 --> 00:24:03,750 Speaker 2: who love him and are called according to his purpose. 341 00:24:04,369 --> 00:24:08,330 Speaker 2: It means trust that there's a purpose in our situation 342 00:24:08,730 --> 00:24:13,260 Speaker 2: and that we don't face it alone. Psalm 84, 11 343 00:24:13,260 --> 00:24:16,900 Speaker 2: reminds us that God never withholds any good thing from 344 00:24:16,940 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 2: his children. So even when we face difficult circumstances that 345 00:24:20,980 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 2: prompt us to engage in worry, fear, anxiety, or stress, 346 00:24:25,140 --> 00:24:27,609 Speaker 2: God's not going to withhold any good thing from us 347 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,649 Speaker 2: that we need. He is sovereign. And the final T 348 00:24:31,790 --> 00:24:37,330 Speaker 2: is turn to the testimony of previous experiences and remember 349 00:24:37,350 --> 00:24:42,709 Speaker 2: his faithfulness. If you are a journaler, Go back and 350 00:24:42,869 --> 00:24:46,609 Speaker 2: read previous journal entries where God was faithful and he 351 00:24:46,650 --> 00:24:49,889 Speaker 2: was good and he came through and he did work 352 00:24:50,130 --> 00:24:55,740 Speaker 2: in that situation to bring about good. Reread the answers 353 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 2: to the prayers that you've cried out to him. And 354 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 2: if you're not a journaler, it's okay. God has given 355 00:25:02,740 --> 00:25:08,070 Speaker 2: us his holy Bible filled with scriptures of countless examples 356 00:25:08,750 --> 00:25:13,340 Speaker 2: of when he's been faithful and Revelation 12, 11 says, 357 00:25:13,500 --> 00:25:17,550 Speaker 2: they triumphed over him, who? The enemy. They triumphed over 358 00:25:17,630 --> 00:25:21,170 Speaker 2: him by the blood of the lamb and the word 359 00:25:21,450 --> 00:25:26,530 Speaker 2: of their testimony. That's when we can encourage others and 360 00:25:26,609 --> 00:25:30,730 Speaker 2: we can receive encouragement from the testimony of others of 361 00:25:30,770 --> 00:25:35,859 Speaker 2: when God has been good and faithful. So if you're 362 00:25:35,980 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 2: one who struggles with worry, fear, or anxiety, please know, 363 00:25:40,060 --> 00:25:44,420 Speaker 2: You're not alone. Even we professionals struggle. But also know 364 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:49,210 Speaker 2: that as you begin to trust God more, you will 365 00:25:49,330 --> 00:25:54,750 Speaker 2: see where he exchanges your worry, fear, anxiety, and stress 366 00:25:55,470 --> 00:25:59,490 Speaker 2: for his peace. So remember the TRUST acronym. Take God 367 00:25:59,550 --> 00:26:03,390 Speaker 2: at his word. Rest in his presence and promises. Understand 368 00:26:03,430 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 2: that the outcome does not depend on you. Accept that 369 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 2: God is sovereign. and turn to the testimony of previous 370 00:26:11,660 --> 00:26:17,979 Speaker 2: experiences of God's faithfulness. Friend, anxiety may be loud, but 371 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:22,010 Speaker 2: it is not Lord. It may rise, it may race, 372 00:26:22,290 --> 00:26:25,730 Speaker 2: it may even feel overwhelming at times, but it does 373 00:26:25,890 --> 00:26:28,530 Speaker 2: not get the final say in your life, because the 374 00:26:28,590 --> 00:26:32,670 Speaker 2: God who created your mind also gave you the power 375 00:26:32,850 --> 00:26:36,629 Speaker 2: to renew it. So when anxiety comes, and it will, 376 00:26:37,780 --> 00:26:40,470 Speaker 2: You do not have to shrink back. You can stand. 377 00:26:41,290 --> 00:26:45,270 Speaker 2: You can breathe. You can choose truth even when your 378 00:26:45,330 --> 00:26:49,070 Speaker 2: feelings are loud. And in that moment, I encourage you 379 00:26:49,109 --> 00:26:52,869 Speaker 2: to remind yourself the feeling is real, but it's not true. 380 00:26:53,250 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 2: The fear is loud, but it is not in charge. 381 00:26:57,220 --> 00:27:02,139 Speaker 2: And this mind can be renewed. So no, you might 382 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:06,469 Speaker 2: not stop anxiety from knocking. But you don't have to 383 00:27:06,530 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 2: invite it in. You don't have to sit with it. 384 00:27:08,609 --> 00:27:11,030 Speaker 2: You don't have to agree with it. And you certainly 385 00:27:11,510 --> 00:27:15,690 Speaker 2: don't have to become it. Because you are not powerless. 386 00:27:16,190 --> 00:27:21,030 Speaker 2: You are not stuck. And you are not alone. So today, 387 00:27:21,050 --> 00:27:26,410 Speaker 2: I don't want you to be afraid of anxiety returning. 388 00:27:27,250 --> 00:27:31,230 Speaker 2: You are ready. Ready to recognize it. Ready to respond 389 00:27:31,310 --> 00:27:35,290 Speaker 2: to it. Ready to replace it with truth. And when 390 00:27:35,330 --> 00:27:38,870 Speaker 2: it tries to come again, you will rise and not 391 00:27:38,930 --> 00:27:44,670 Speaker 2: retreat because anxiety may knock, but it no longer gets 392 00:27:44,750 --> 00:27:48,330 Speaker 2: the key. Oh friends, how I hope that there was 393 00:27:48,470 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 2: something in today's episode that has encouraged you, that has 394 00:27:54,540 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 2: perhaps helped you put a framework around worry, fear, and 395 00:27:58,700 --> 00:28:04,190 Speaker 2: anxiety that maybe has challenged you. to begin to replace worry, fear, 396 00:28:04,230 --> 00:28:06,990 Speaker 2: and anxiety with God's peace, because I'm here to tell 397 00:28:07,030 --> 00:28:11,830 Speaker 2: you it is possible. And friends, one in five people 398 00:28:12,270 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 2: struggle with significant anxiety. So you are bound to have 399 00:28:17,180 --> 00:28:20,460 Speaker 2: friends and family members who struggle, even when they don't 400 00:28:20,500 --> 00:28:24,180 Speaker 2: talk about it. Would you consider sharing this episode so 401 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,510 Speaker 2: that they have a biblically-based, hope-filled perspective on for how 402 00:28:28,530 --> 00:28:32,390 Speaker 2: to fight back against worry, fear, and anxiety and exchange 403 00:28:32,470 --> 00:28:35,780 Speaker 2: it for God's peace. While you're at it, would you 404 00:28:35,820 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 2: consider giving us a thumbs up for this episode and 405 00:28:39,020 --> 00:28:43,620 Speaker 2: subscribe so that you never miss an episode of your 406 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,860 Speaker 2: Hope-Filled Perspective. Friends, I look forward to being with you 407 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:51,290 Speaker 2: again next week. But until then, it's my prayer for 408 00:28:51,330 --> 00:28:54,570 Speaker 2: you that you have a hope-filled week. 409 00:28:56,470 --> 00:29:03,870 Speaker 1: Everyone experiences pain at times. It can manifest physically, emotionally, relationally, 410 00:29:03,890 --> 00:29:10,090 Speaker 1: or spiritually. It can follow tragic accidents, great loss, sudden betrayal, 411 00:29:10,550 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: or unexpected and unwanted change. Often, pain is temporary, but 412 00:29:16,180 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: what do you do when it isn't? When pain won't 413 00:29:19,260 --> 00:29:23,380 Speaker 1: go away, healing does not come, and grief and hurt 414 00:29:23,660 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: settle in to stay. Drawing on her experience of chronic 415 00:29:27,660 --> 00:29:32,590 Speaker 1: pain in her years as a board-certified clinical neuropsychologist, Dr. 416 00:29:32,630 --> 00:29:37,930 Speaker 1: Michelle Bankson provides a countercultural perspective on pain, offering hope 417 00:29:38,090 --> 00:29:42,580 Speaker 1: without any false promises or or empty platitudes, Dr. Bankson 418 00:29:42,910 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: unwraps the complex emotional aspects of dealing with pain. She 419 00:29:47,540 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: gives you permission to question God, helps you identify the 420 00:29:51,460 --> 00:29:55,459 Speaker 1: lies you've believed about your pain, and reorients your perspective 421 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,570 Speaker 1: based on the truth of God's word. Each chapter ends 422 00:29:59,650 --> 00:30:04,660 Speaker 1: with a recommended playlist, reflection, questions, and a prayer. Your 423 00:30:04,740 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: pain may not change, but your experience with it can. Dr. 424 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:16,140 Speaker 1: Sondra Dalton-Smith, physician, best-selling author, and a host of the 425 00:30:16,460 --> 00:30:20,310 Speaker 1: I Choose My Best Life podcast, had this to say 426 00:30:20,410 --> 00:30:23,950 Speaker 1: about the hem of his garment. Dr. Michelle Bankson is 427 00:30:23,970 --> 00:30:27,490 Speaker 1: honest and transparent, and she gives the reader permission to 428 00:30:27,610 --> 00:30:31,130 Speaker 1: ask hard questions and practical guidance on how to seek 429 00:30:31,190 --> 00:30:34,220 Speaker 1: God during times when you feel the most wounded. A 430 00:30:34,260 --> 00:30:38,940 Speaker 1: beautiful gift for every person living with pain. Holly Gerth, 431 00:30:39,340 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: best-selling author of What Your Mind Needs for Anxious Moments says, 432 00:30:44,420 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: Pain is inevitable, but enduring it alone is optional. 433 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 3: Dr. 434 00:30:48,740 --> 00:30:51,700 Speaker 1: Michelle Bankson is a voice of hope who will speak 435 00:30:51,740 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: into your struggles, a helping hand who will point you 436 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,420 Speaker 1: to Jesus, and a wise guide who will lead you 437 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,770 Speaker 1: through what you're facing so you can embrace more of 438 00:31:02,870 --> 00:31:06,250 Speaker 1: what our good God has for you. Pick up a 439 00:31:06,310 --> 00:31:09,850 Speaker 1: copy of The Hem of His Garment for you and 440 00:31:09,910 --> 00:31:17,260 Speaker 1: a friend wherever books are sold. 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