1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to this Week on Capitol Hill, your insider's guide 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: to the story shaping Washington and the world. I'm your host, 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: Tony Perkins. 4 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 2: It's truly shameful that now for more than a year 5 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 2: you've had elected Democrat governors and mayors who have basically 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 2: held their state and local LA enforcement hostage and told 7 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 2: them you cannot cooperate with federal law enforcement. Why they 8 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: cooperated under the Biden administration, It's because these Democrats are 9 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 2: deranged and their hatred for President Trump, and they are 10 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 2: holding their state and local law enforcement hostage as a result. 11 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: That was White House Press Secretary of Caroline Levitt responding 12 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: to questions about President's Trump's threat to invoke the Insurrection 13 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: Act amid unrest in Minnesota. House Majority Web and Minnesota 14 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: Congressman Tom Emmert will join us in just a moment. 15 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: The abortion drug MEFI prestone was also back in the 16 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: headlines this week, as the Senate Health Committee held a 17 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: hearing on the dangers of the drug, followed by a 18 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: press conference featuring state attorneys general pushing back against its 19 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: illegal distribution into pro life states. 20 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 3: It's not about a national abortion ban. It's about validating 21 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 3: jobs and preventing other states from nullifying the legislative policy 22 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:18,839 Speaker 3: choices that have been made by our states and facilitating 23 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:24,639 Speaker 3: the illegal, unethical, and dangerous drug trafficking of abortion pills 24 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 3: into our states without any medical oversight whatsoever. 25 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: That was Louisiana Attorney General Liz Merle. She'll join us 26 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: later to explain how federal policy is undermining state pro 27 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: life laws. And on the international front, Iran has dominated 28 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: the headlines this week as the regime intensifies its cracked 29 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: down amid a fresh wave of unrest driven by economic 30 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: hardship and political repression. 31 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 4: This is a regime that rules through oppression, through violence, 32 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 4: and through intimidation, and has destabilized the Middle East for decades. 33 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 5: Well enough is enough. 34 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 4: We all have a responsibility to support the Iranian people 35 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 4: and to put an end to the regimes neglect and 36 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 4: oppression of the Iranian nation. 37 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: That was US Ambassador to the United Nations Mike Waltz, 38 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: speaking Thursday at the UN. Ambassador Waltz will join us 39 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: later in the program. All of that and more coming 40 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: up on This Week on Capitol Hill. 41 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 5: Today's edition of This Week on Capitol Hill is brought 42 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 5: to you by Americans for Prosperity. 43 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: Well, there was a lot happening this week in Washington 44 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: and around the world. Joining us now to help sort 45 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: it all out is newsmax's chief Washington correspondent James Rosen. James, 46 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: welcome back to this week on Capitol Hill. 47 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 6: Tony, always honored to be with you. 48 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 5: All Right, you're going to sort all this out for us. 49 00:02:55,480 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 1: Let's start with the situation in Minneapolis. Give us the 50 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: latest and how significant is this? 51 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 6: I think ultimately it won't be something that and I 52 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 6: could be proven wrong here, and frankly, Tony the conscientious 53 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 6: reporter is always best advised to issue prognostication. We're better 54 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 6: off and better at just telling you what has happened 55 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 6: and analyzing why. 56 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 5: But I suspect that. 57 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 6: What's happening in Minneapolis will calm down over a period 58 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 6: of some weeks. 59 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 5: And I don't. 60 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 6: Imagine that it's going to be something that's driving the 61 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 6: action in the midterm elections, let's say, in November of 62 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 6: this year. But nonetheless, it is perhaps the most significant 63 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 6: outgrowth of the opposition that exists in the country to 64 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 6: the president's deportation program, and with ice as the most 65 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 6: sort of approximate and visible manifestation and target for that criticism. 66 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 6: And what was striking about the the first shooting in 67 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 6: Minneapolis was how the administration was very quick to pronounce 68 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 6: judgment on what had occurred, who was at fault, where 69 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 6: criminal liability may have existed, and it essentially ties the 70 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 6: hands of the federal prosecutors on the ground in the 71 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 6: state of Minnesota, and you have this farrago of conflicting 72 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 6: videos to look at. 73 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 7: It is a tragedy all the way around, and. 74 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 6: To the extent that it raises questions about the value 75 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 6: of the program. 76 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 5: I suppose, again, we're so polarized. 77 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 6: Half the country would say that this is evidence of 78 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 6: why the program needs to continue, and half would say 79 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 6: this is why the program needs to be stopped, and 80 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 6: if the Democrats win, the president needs to be impeached. 81 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 6: But ultimately, I don't see the events in Minneapolis continuing 82 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 6: at their current furious pace, and I don't see them eventually. 83 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 6: Since you asked how significant they are, and I I 84 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 6: construed that question to reflect a concern for the politics 85 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 6: of the situation, I don't eventually see it in impacting 86 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 6: on the midterms. 87 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: James, You're not only a reporter student of history as well. 88 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: When you look, you made reference to this polarization that 89 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 1: has gripped our nation. The president suggesting that he may 90 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: use the Insurrection Act wouldn't be the first time. But 91 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: have we reached a new level of division as a nation. 92 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 6: I wouldn't compare anything that we've seen in the country 93 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 6: since January twenty of last year to what we were 94 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 6: seeing in this country in the summer of twenty twenty 95 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 6: after the George Floyd killing. I would not say that 96 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 6: we've reached a new level, let's say, of disorder or 97 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 6: politically motivated violence, or what have you. We have to 98 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,679 Speaker 6: remember that the unrest that followed the killing of George 99 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 6: Floyd caused something like two billion dollars in property damage 100 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 6: in various locales across the country. And while there's no 101 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 6: question that roughly half the country is opposed to President 102 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 6: Trump's policies on just about any front, and perhaps especially 103 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 6: the immigration program, Nonetheless, I think that whether the President 104 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 6: invokes the Insurrection Act or not, we probably don't necessarily 105 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 6: need to reach some unprecedented stage of political violence or 106 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 6: disorder in the country, because he has sent the National 107 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 6: Guard to various venues including the District of Columbia. That 108 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 6: we're not in a state of complete unrest or rebellion. 109 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 6: Nothing was going on in Washington, d C. That was 110 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 6: anything like what we saw during the George Floyd days. 111 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 6: But nonetheless, he has found his justification, so it's not 112 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 6: inconceivable to me that he will, despite the fact that 113 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 6: we are not at some level of unprecedented violence, perhaps 114 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 6: invoke the Insurrection Act. 115 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: Another domestic issue before we moved to the international front, 116 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: the Federal Reserve. The President the administration, i should say, 117 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: appearing to take the next steps in this confrontation with 118 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: the Chairman Powell and the Federal Reserve. 119 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 6: So this is extraordinary and it's caused some consternation even 120 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 6: among the President Trump's natural and biological allies on Capitol Hill. 121 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 6: The idea that the Department of Justice would be undertaking 122 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 6: a criminal investigation of the Chairman of the Federal Reserve 123 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 6: struck a lot of observers, including as I say, some 124 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 6: Republicans on the Hill, as a bridge too far in 125 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 6: trampling on the independence of the Fed, especially since Chairman 126 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 6: Powell is scheduled to be leaving in just a matter 127 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 6: of months. Anyway, although his term as a governor would 128 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 6: not inspire. According to the US Attorney for the District 129 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 6: of Columbia, Jean Piro, the decision to launch this investigation 130 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 6: into Chairman Powell based on testimony he gave last year 131 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 6: about the extraordinary cost overruns. 132 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 5: That the innovation of the headquarters of the Federal Reserve. 133 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 6: This decision to launch this investigation came only after a 134 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 6: number of inquiries were made for additional materials and so 135 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 6: forth by the authorities, and according to Piro, they were 136 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 6: ignored by the Chairman's office, and so they had to 137 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 6: resort to legal process to secure access to the materials 138 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 6: they wanted to see. And it was also striking, of course, 139 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 6: to see Chairman Powell's response a direct to camera video 140 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 6: such as we've never seen really in. 141 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 5: Such a circumstance. 142 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 6: Of course, the circumstance itself is unprecedented, as is so 143 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 6: much in the Trump era. A lot of these prosecutions, 144 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 6: or these we should say, these investigations against perceived enemies 145 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 6: of the president, have not panned out. Of course, Letitia James, 146 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 6: Jim Comey, among two among others, perhaps that we could mention. 147 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 6: So I don't know how worried Jerome Powell needs to 148 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 6: be at this stage. But these are volatile times for short. 149 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: I mean, we're getting to a place of super precedent, 150 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: you know, because there's this president every day. We got 151 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 1: about a little over a minute the Left James International 152 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: Front Iran, a lot of focus there. 153 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 5: President first of. 154 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: The week talking about all options on the table, sounding 155 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: like military actions could be imminent, and then kind of 156 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: backing away a little bit, allowing diplomacy. A lot of 157 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: the countries in the Golf State, the Golf States kind 158 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: of weighing in, trying to bring down the temperature. 159 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 6: Yeah, and according to published reports, even the Israeli Prime 160 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 6: Minister Benjamin Evna, who has privately urged President Trump against 161 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 6: launching some kind of strike on Iran in response to 162 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,839 Speaker 6: the repression of its own citizens. This has turned out 163 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 6: to be a very interventionist foreign policy in Trump two 164 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 6: point zero, despite the fact that he campaigned on a 165 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:56,599 Speaker 6: non interventionist foreign policy platform. You have the operation in Venezuela, 166 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 6: you had the military strikes in Iran last year, and 167 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 6: now you have this threat of US military action against 168 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 6: a foreign sovereign state because in the eyes of the President, 169 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 6: the government in Iran is repressing its own citizens. But 170 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 6: how many countries repress their own citizens. China is operating 171 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 6: concentration camps for a million people, and there's been no 172 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 6: suggestion from the President that he would seek military action there. 173 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,359 Speaker 6: Most disturbing, I think was to hear the Press Secretary 174 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 6: Caroline Levitt say when asked why the president seemed to 175 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 6: be drawing back from taking action, she cited the fact 176 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 6: that the president had just heard from good sources inside 177 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,599 Speaker 6: Iran that the regime has halted the planned execution of 178 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 6: eight hundred people. It's in a state of flux the 179 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 6: president's Iran policy. 180 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, we'll find out more. 181 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: We're going to talk with Ambassador Mike Waltz with you 182 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: in a little bit later in the program. James Rosen, 183 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: always great to see you, my friend. Thanks so much 184 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 1: for joining us. All right, folks, stick with us. We're 185 00:10:51,120 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: back with more after this. We're back to this week 186 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill. I'm your host, Tony Pergan. Thanks so 187 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: much for tuning in. 188 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 5: Well. 189 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: As we continue to examine the situation in Minneapolis, President 190 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: Trump said that he is prepared to halt federal funding 191 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: to sanctuary cities beginning in February. These are cities which 192 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: are facilitating the breaking of federal law. Joining me now 193 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: to discuss this, Congressman Tom Emmer, who serves as the 194 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: House Whip, the Majority Whip. He's also on the House 195 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 1: Committee on Financial Services in the House of Representatives. He 196 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: is the representative for the sixth Congressional district of the 197 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: state of Minnesota. Congressman Emmer, Welcome to this week on 198 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: Capitol Hill. Thanks so much for joining us. 199 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 5: Good to be with you, Tony. 200 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: You know your state's in the headlines almost every day 201 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: with what's happening up there. The President now saying that 202 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: he is considering the leverage of federal funding to these 203 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: states and cities that call themselves sanctuary cities, which are 204 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: essentially facilitating the breaking of federal law. 205 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 8: Your response, well, we've been talking about this for years, 206 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 8: and the President he's talking about this, he's talking about 207 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 8: other things. But we've got to go to the reason why, Tony, 208 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 8: which is you've got federal law enforcement agents in every 209 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 8: state in the Union, and that includes immigrations and custom 210 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 8: enforcement agents in every state. It's pretty amazing when you 211 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 8: think about the fact that the President and the federal 212 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 8: government are not having to surge resources to places like 213 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 8: Virginia where the. 214 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 5: Same activities are taking place, or the state of Florida, 215 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 5: or the state. 216 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 8: Of Texas or Utah, but Minnesota. 217 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 5: Why because Tim Walls. 218 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 8: I think he thinks he's the twenty first century version 219 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 8: of Jefferson Davis. He literally is telling because of his 220 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 8: hatred of Donald J. 221 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 5: Trump. 222 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 8: He's telling people to fight the federal government that insanity 223 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 8: has to end. Things will call them down immediately as 224 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 8: soon as they start to cooperate. In the meantime, if 225 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 8: you're going to harbor some of the worst of the worst, 226 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 8: and Tony I should send you a list, just a snapshot. 227 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 8: I mean, they're pulling out rapists, murderers, some of the 228 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 8: most awful people you can imagine. By the way, I 229 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 8: saw one that was a murderer that's had a deep 230 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 8: ortation order in place since two thousand and two. These 231 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 8: are the people that Tim Walls and company are allowing 232 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 8: to run on their streets free, and they're trying to 233 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 8: obstruct the federal government from doing its job to protect 234 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 8: American citizens and their property. So I totally understand where 235 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 8: the predaceent is coming from, and I know he will 236 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 8: use every tool to his disposal to make sure that 237 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 8: the public is protected from these very bad people. 238 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: Congressman Emmery, you serve, as I mentioned, on the financial services, 239 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: so you're tracking these things where the money goes that 240 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: you can usually see corruptions rounding it. 241 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 5: Is this, I mean, it's beyond Minnesota. 242 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: Is this in the blue states where we have lax 243 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: oversight and we. 244 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 5: Have government that just you know, government leaders that you 245 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 5: really don't care. Well, it's not just really don't care. 246 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 5: How many of them are complicit? 247 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 8: I'm going to tell you in my state, we only 248 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 8: have five point seven million residents in the entire state 249 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 8: of Minnesota. Tony, to give people a understanding of why, 250 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 8: I say only five point seven the population of Houston, 251 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 8: Texas has more residents than the state of Minnesota. And 252 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 8: yet apparently over the last seven years, Tim Walls and 253 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 8: Company have allowed. 254 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 5: Almost to they say it could go as. 255 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 8: High as nine billion dollars of money to be fraudulently 256 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 8: milked out of Minnesota. So you could say they don't care, 257 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 8: or Tony, we better find out are they complicit? 258 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 5: I mean we have a housing front. You think this 259 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 5: is a criminal conspiracy. 260 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 8: I think ultimately somebody's got to be held responsible for 261 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 8: the oversight of this money. And you don't let a 262 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 8: billion dollars plus go out without somebody knowing, Tony. And 263 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 8: it starts in Minnesota, but get ready, it's going to 264 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 8: go to California. 265 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 5: There they have forty million people. How big a number 266 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 5: do you think that's going to be. 267 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 8: It's going to go to New York, it's going to 268 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 8: go to Illinois. These things have been going on for 269 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 8: years and until we got Donald J. Trump in the 270 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 8: White House and he said we're done with this. He's 271 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 8: got his all star cabinet in Minnesota. There are ten 272 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 8: of them right now working Minnesota, Tony, And I mean, 273 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 8: I'll give you one. Scott Turner from my HUD has 274 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 8: uncovered up to eighty four million dollars of HUD money 275 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 8: that was fraudulently sucked out of Minnesota, which included I mean, 276 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 8: this is amazing, half a million dollars almost for five 277 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 8: hundred and nine dead tenants. 278 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 5: Right. I talked, somebody had to know this, Tony. 279 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: I talked to Secretary Turney earlier this week about this. 280 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: One of the questions I have Congressman Emmer is is 281 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: this a part of the government going beyond what it 282 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: should be doing in terms of its essential functions. That 283 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: we've grown government so big that it just attracts corruption. 284 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 5: Well, you and I would agree on that. 285 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 8: I mean, the government is supposed to have a very 286 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 8: limited involvement. 287 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 5: In the federal government. 288 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 8: It's supposed to protect the citizens and their property, supposed 289 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 8: to protect the country from outside adversaries. It's not supposed 290 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 8: to be in the business of all these other social programs. 291 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 8: But like it or not, this was created long before 292 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 8: you and I came to the scene. And now what 293 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 8: we're finding, and I think the American public's going to realize, 294 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 8: is that you've got fraudsters. Whether they're the Somali fraudsters 295 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 8: that I've got to deal with in Minnesota, or they're 296 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 8: Eastern European or you name your community. They are now 297 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 8: looking at these programs that were created because Americans are generous. 298 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 8: Americans want to take care of their neighbors who are 299 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 8: unable to take care of themselves. But these people see 300 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 8: an opportunity to pray upon that generosity, and in my 301 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 8: state they've been doing it in growing I mean huge 302 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 8: terms suitcases of cash. Tony reportedly going out of the 303 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 8: Minneapolis Saint Paul International Airport back to Somalia and Dubai 304 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 8: and other places. This is insane, and yes, it is 305 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 8: because the federal government has expanded its reach and areas 306 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 8: that it was never intended. 307 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 5: To be in. 308 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: I hope that there are case studies done on Minnesota 309 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: following this, when you combine the immigration lacks, immigration policies 310 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: and the overreach of federal funding when it comes to 311 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: these social programs you serve. As I mentioned on the 312 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: Financial Services this week, a lot of controversy over the 313 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: president and his confrontation with the Federal Reserve. Even Wall 314 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: Street speaking back on this, are you concerned that we 315 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: may be losing the independence of the Federal Reserve. 316 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 8: I've been on a financial service. Sorry, I laughed, Tony. 317 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 8: I was invited to for some reason. I was invited 318 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 8: to a going away reception for Janet Yellen when she 319 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 8: was leaving the Fed. Before you know, Trump was elected 320 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 8: and then then Biden somehow was given the office. I 321 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 8: go to this thing and you tell me they're independent, 322 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 8: Kelly Trumpka, all the Union people were in the room. 323 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 8: It's like I'm looking around seeing Maxine Waters independence. Okay, 324 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 8: I guess it's only independent if they work with Democrats. 325 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 8: Right in this case, Jerome Powell his you know, I'm 326 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 8: not going. 327 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 5: To pass judgment. I'll let the system do that. 328 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 8: But he's waited way too long to raise interest rates 329 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 8: when Joe Biden was the president, which resulted in large 330 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 8: part in the not just the excess drunken sailors spending 331 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 8: by Democrats back then, but the federal Reserve refusing to 332 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 8: tighten up cash resulted in inflation that you and I 333 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 8: hadn't seen in forty years, which Donald Trump is now 334 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 8: cleaning up. And yeah, I think there's an investigation now. 335 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 8: I would say this about Jerome Chairpowell. I mean, if 336 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 8: in fact he did lie to Congress about this amazing 337 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 8: two point five billion dollar renovation, he should be held accountable. 338 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 5: But let's see where the investigation goes. 339 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: Congressman Tom Emmer, always great to see you, my friend. 340 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us son this week on 341 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: Capitol Hill. 342 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 5: Thank you for what you do, Tony. Keep fighting the fight. 343 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: All right, Congressman Tom Immer, the majority whip in the 344 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: House of Representatives, represents Minnesota. All right, don't go away, 345 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: We're going to be right back with more of this 346 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: Week on Capitol Hill. 347 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 5: Welcome back to this week on Capitol Hill. I'm your 348 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 5: host Tony Perkins. 349 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,479 Speaker 1: Well, this week, the Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor, 350 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 1: and Pensions led a hearing to examine the dangers of 351 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: abortion drugs and their effects on women and children. Here 352 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 1: were the opening remarks of the committee chairman, Louisiana Senator 353 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 1: Bill Cassidy. 354 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 9: These drugs are not safe one of the mill drugs. 355 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 9: They're certainly not safe for the unborn child, but there 356 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 9: can also be potential complications for the mother. 357 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 5: Now, I'm a doc. The first rules do no harm. 358 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 9: The way things are working here today, it has a 359 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 9: lot of potential to do a lot of harm. 360 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 5: And it's also undermining the laws of many states. 361 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: Joining me now is Louisiana Attorney General Liz Merle, who 362 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 1: testified before the Senate and joined me at a follow 363 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 1: up press conference earlier this week. Attorney General Merle, Welcome 364 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,120 Speaker 1: to this week on Capitol Hill. Thanks for joining us. 365 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 5: Thanks for having me, Tony. It's great to be with 366 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 5: you now. 367 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: You testified before the Help Committee there this week. Tell 368 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 1: us what your message was coming from the states. 369 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 3: Well, you know, I think the main message was that 370 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 3: the FDA needs to withdraw the twenty twenty three Biden 371 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 3: RIM's Protocol, which reduced protections for women by taking out 372 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 3: an in person dispensing requirement, which is really necessary to 373 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 3: ensure that there is some doctor patient relationship and to 374 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 3: provide some accountability. In our states, it's illegal to use 375 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 3: these pills, and what we were finding is that doctors 376 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 3: and other individuals in concert are sending those pills into 377 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 3: our states because they disagree with our laws. It's illegal, 378 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 3: it's unethical, it's dangerous, and that was the message that 379 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 3: I brought to the committee. 380 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 1: So the laws of the state of Louisiana, as well 381 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 1: as about I think about fourteen other about thirteen other 382 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: states are being violated. Those laws are being broken by 383 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: these drugs being trafficked in across state borders. 384 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 5: Is that correct? 385 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 3: That's correct. 386 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: And the these are being sent by what the mail 387 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 1: they're being shipped in, isn't that also a violation of 388 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: the law. 389 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 3: They are sent by mail, and they are and that 390 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 3: is illegal. It violates federal law to send these pills 391 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 3: by mail. So you know, there's there's the f d 392 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 3: A rule when the Biden administration adopted it was illegal 393 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 3: right out of the gate, because it violated federal law. 394 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:32,439 Speaker 3: There avowed purpose was to facilitate the widespread distribution of 395 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 3: these pills by mail. So the entire purpose that that 396 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 3: they they plainly acknowledged was illegal. It's you know, that's 397 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 3: the definition of arbitrary and capricious. It goes beyond arbitrary 398 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 3: and capricious to adopt a rule that is in fact 399 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,959 Speaker 3: that it's whose whole purpose is to facilitate violating, you know, 400 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 3: existing federal laws. So I think this should be easy 401 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 3: for the FDA to do, and yet they haven't done 402 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 3: it yet. We were all urging the FDA to act 403 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 3: more swiftly, and I was grateful for Senator Cassidy highlighting 404 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 3: that in his committee and then the press conference afterward 405 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 3: with Senator Graham and some other people. 406 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: Now, as a result of the violation of these laws, 407 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: you have indicted doctors from other states, for instance in California. 408 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 1: This week, the governor of California, Gavin Newsom, said that 409 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: he would protect those doctors from being extradited to Louisiana. 410 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: I mean, this is very similar to Maduro who was 411 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: indicted for drug trafficking and he was arrested it seems 412 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: like the states need a Maduro law that allow them 413 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: to go after those who were trafficking deadly drugs into 414 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 1: their states. 415 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 3: We extradited someone this week just to kind of put 416 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 3: a put an example to it, from Florida who was 417 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 3: engaged in an online scam and stole two hundred and 418 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 3: fifty thousand dollars from a school board through an online 419 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 3: transaction and redirecting that money to somewhere else. And so 420 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 3: as all scam, it was illegal, Florida extradited. You know, 421 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 3: they acknowledged our extradition papers and we extradited him to 422 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 3: face justice in Louisiana, New York, and California are blocking 423 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 3: our extradition papers and protecting these individuals who are knowingly 424 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 3: and intentionally sending abortion pills in violation of state and 425 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 3: federal law into our states. And in both of the 426 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 3: cases that we've issued indictments on, it involved facts that 427 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 3: were had coercive abortions. 428 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 5: So those governors are. 429 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 3: Protecting people who are engaged in facilitating coercion. 430 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 1: That is astonishing. We just have a minute left. In general, 431 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: we just have a minute left. What couldn't the federal 432 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: government do to allow the states to enforce their laws 433 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: in cases like this. 434 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 3: I think the federal government could do a number of things, 435 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 3: starting with withdrawal of that RIMS Protocol from twenty twenty three. 436 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 3: The FDA, I mean, the DEA could suspend these doctors' licenses. 437 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 3: If they are prescribing pills illegally, which is what they 438 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 3: are doing, they are violating state and federal law. 439 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 5: We can show they. 440 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 3: Mailed the pills here and that they prescribed them to 441 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 3: individuals here, not to mention the course of effect. There's 442 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 3: no human contact on these online transactions. You know. That 443 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 3: also violates I think medical ethics in every state. So 444 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 3: I think there's a lot the federal government could do, 445 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 3: and they could enforce the Comstock. 446 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 1: Act, right, jenneral Merrel, thank you so much for joining us. 447 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: Appreciate your leadership on this issue. 448 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 5: Thanks thanks for having me Tony. 449 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: You know it's interesting this could go away overnight if 450 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: the FDA and the DOJ would simply enforce the law. 451 00:25:49,080 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 1: I don't go away more straight ahead. Welcome back to 452 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: this week on Capitol Hill. I'm your host, Tony Perkins. 453 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for tuning in. The situation in Iran 454 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: continues to change by the hour. President Trump has warned 455 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,959 Speaker 1: the Iranian regime that all options are on the table 456 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: for US action. Direct intervention appeared likely as earlier in 457 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: the week as citizens on the streets were arrested or killed. 458 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: That gave way to a more diplomatic focus towards the 459 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 1: end of the week. Joining me now to discuss this 460 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: is US Ambassador to the United Nations, Michael Waltz. Ambassador Waltz, 461 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us. Appreciate you joining us 462 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: here on Capitol Hill. Yeah, thank you, Tony. Always great 463 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 1: to be with you. All right, So the unrest in Iran, 464 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: is it subsiding or does it remain volatile. 465 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 4: Well, we're seeing the protests continue, but at the same 466 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:56,199 Speaker 4: time with the brutality that the regime has met it 467 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 4: out on its own people. Massive arrests by the UN 468 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 4: Zone figure up to eighteen thousand killed. Other international figures 469 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 4: have it anywhere from twelve to twenty. Regardless, this has 470 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 4: been a massacre. The regime has used military grade weapons 471 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 4: and mowed down its own people. 472 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 5: In addition to. 473 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 4: That, we're seeing tens of thousands of arrests. It appears 474 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 4: the executions that were eminent have stayed for a bit, 475 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 4: and I think that's in direct response to the regime 476 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 4: being afraid of the potential actions President Trump could take. 477 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 4: But we're watching closely, Tony, and it is wholly unacceptable. 478 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 4: And I made that point to the United Nations Security Council, 479 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 4: not only made that point, but called them out for 480 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 4: their silence over the prior week as the regime has 481 00:27:54,240 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 4: gone to an absolute blackout crackdown, you know, once again 482 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 4: brutalized its own people. 483 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: Ambassador of you are well versed on these issues when 484 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: you were in the House, frequent guest on my program 485 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: discussing foreign policy issues, so Iran is not new to you. 486 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 1: So let me ask you this question. Is this unique? 487 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: Are we at a tipping point? Could we see something 488 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 1: fundamentally change there? 489 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 4: Well, here's what's different from the prior protest. I mean, 490 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 4: we remember an uprising under the Obama administration, the Green Movement, 491 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 4: where frankly, the administration and President Obama did next to 492 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 4: nothing in response. President Trump's not a man of talk, 493 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 4: He's a man of action. Number one. Number two. The 494 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 4: second executive order he put. 495 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 7: In place. 496 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 4: Was to reinstitute his maximum pressure campaign that had been 497 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 4: lifted under the Biden administration. So what's critically different here 498 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 4: is the Iranian economy is not going to approve anytime soon. 499 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 7: Their currency is tanking. 500 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 4: They are able to export less and less of their 501 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 4: illegal oil. President Trump put the buyers of that oil 502 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 4: and anything else coming from Iran on notice with another 503 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 4: promise of additional tariffs, and we took out, at least 504 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 4: for the foreseeable future, the Iranian nuclear threat. 505 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 7: So the regime is ultimately afraid. 506 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 4: It's afraid of its own people, it's afraid of losing power, 507 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 4: and it certainly is afraid of the potential action from 508 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 4: President Trump. 509 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 5: What's the current situation? 510 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: The economic unrest is evident that the sanctions were working 511 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: because the people are saying, hey, enough is enough? 512 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 5: Reports aren't that they. 513 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 7: Starting to interrupt you? Just an important point. 514 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 4: One are the metrics that I watched very close land 515 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 4: have throughout my career and including President Trump's first term, 516 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 4: is that Iran's terrorist proxies are complaining the Huthis has 517 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 4: the law, they're militias in Iraq, Hamas and others aren't 518 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 4: getting the. 519 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 7: Planeloads of cash. 520 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 4: And now Venezuela as well aren't getting the planeloads of 521 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 4: cash that they used to and that means that the 522 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:28,479 Speaker 4: terrorist Trust Fund that sits in Tehran is drying up. 523 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 7: And for everybody out there saying, why do we care? 524 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 4: Look, the root of all evil comes out of this 525 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 4: Iranian regime across the Middle East that has caused conflict 526 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 4: after conflict. President Trump is focused on fundamental change, and 527 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 4: first and foremost, it's drying up the regime's money that 528 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 4: it's used to fuel these wars all over the Middle 529 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 4: East in the world. 530 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: And that's happening, and the people of Iran who do 531 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: not agree, a large portion of them with their government, 532 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: are taking to the streets. We're at that look like 533 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: catalytic moment, a turning point, tipping point, if you will. 534 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: But at the end of the week it reports were 535 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: that the Gulf States were stepping in trying to urge 536 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: the more of diplomatic negotiations to get the US to 537 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: back off. 538 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 5: Is that true? 539 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 4: Well, Look, one of the things one of the threats 540 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 4: that Iran has always put out there on the table, 541 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 4: aside from promising to wipe out the nation of Israel 542 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 4: and attack the Great Satan, which they call the United States, 543 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 4: the other threat is to launch short range missiles all 544 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 4: over their neighbors and attack their neighbors in the Middle East. 545 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 4: You'll remember just a few years ago they attacked one 546 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 4: of the world's largest oil refineries, Saudi a Ramco directly. 547 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 4: So look, the region will always want to be sure 548 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 4: that they can defend themselves and that we can help 549 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 4: defend them if the regime lashes back. 550 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 7: And I could promise. 551 00:31:55,760 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 4: You Secretary of Hegseth Rubio, and of course the present 552 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 4: sident will make sure that we hear their concerns and 553 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 4: address them. 554 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any equivocation for this administration when 555 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: it comes to action. 556 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 5: We just have a little over a minute, laughed. 557 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: Ambassador Walts, I want to ask you this question unrelated 558 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: to this, but something that you've said is going to 559 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,479 Speaker 1: be a priority of yours as Ambassador the United Nations, 560 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: and that is religious freedom internationally and in particularly the 561 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: persecution of Christians around the globe. 562 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 4: Well, thanks for asking, and I'll just state unequivocally I'm 563 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 4: a Christian. I'm a person and man of faith. President 564 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 4: Trump was the first president to convene all world leaders 565 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 4: at the UN General Assembly on the issue of religious freedom. 566 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 7: At the time, we. 567 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 4: Saw just Christians all over the world facing untold persecution. 568 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 7: He's made that an issue again. 569 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 4: I am thrilled to lead the charge at this kind 570 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 4: of world body that the UN is to make sure 571 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 4: that Christians are appropriately defended, particularly in Nigeria where eighty 572 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 4: percent by the estimation of many international NGOs of violence 573 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 4: against Christian is occurring. Since the presidents made it an issue, 574 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 4: the Secretary, myself and others, we've had known international celebrities 575 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 4: like rapper Nicki Minaj and others taking this issue on. 576 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 4: We've seen the Nigerian government move in a better direction, 577 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 4: not far enough, but just through his engagement and our engagement, 578 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 4: we're seeing the issue get the spotlight that it deserves. 579 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 7: Now it's time for meaningful action. 580 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 5: All right, Ambassador, I don't wrap, but I'll help you. 581 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 5: Thanks so much for joining us, Folks stick with us. 582 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: A few final thoughts after this, Thanks for tuning in 583 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: to this week on Capitol Hill. Since the extradition of 584 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: Venezuelan President Nicholas Maduro, the alleged kingpin of a massive 585 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: drug trafficking enterprise, reports indicate that the drug running vessels 586 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 1: in the Caribbean are few and far between. Maduro's arass, 587 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 1: combined with the US military's interception and elimination of over 588 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: one hundred suspected drug runners and thirty five strikes, appears 589 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: to have disrupted the illegal supply chain Weill. The media 590 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: has disputed the numbers. President Trump has argued that the 591 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:32,879 Speaker 1: volume of narcotics carried on each destroyed vessel represents as 592 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: many as twenty three thousand lives that are saved for 593 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,240 Speaker 1: families who have buried sons and daughters lost to fentanyl, heroin, 594 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: and other illicit drugs. Whether that numbers twenty three or 595 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 1: twenty three thousand have decided the point. What matters is 596 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,839 Speaker 1: this decisive action was taken against a deadly supply chain. 597 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,800 Speaker 1: As I've said before, addressing the supply side of the 598 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 1: drug crisis is only half the equation. Demand must be 599 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,879 Speaker 1: confronted as well, But that's the discussion for another day. 600 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: What deserves attention now is the extraordinary willingness of this 601 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: administration to use every lawful tool available to stop illegal 602 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 1: drugs from crossing our country's borders and to hold those 603 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: traffickers accountable, even when doing so required unconventional or politically 604 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 1: risky measures. Earlier this week, Senator Lindsay Graham and I 605 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 1: hosted a press conference on Capitol Hill alongside several other 606 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: members of Congress and state attorneys general to draw attention 607 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: to another form of deadly illegal drug trafficking, one that 608 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 1: receives far less scrutiny. These attorneys general are asking the 609 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: Trump administration for help and stopping the flow of an 610 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 1: illegal drug into their states and in holding those responsible accountable, 611 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,439 Speaker 1: just as Maduro was held accountable. Instead of assistance, they're 612 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 1: encountering federal resistance. In this case, the federal government is 613 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: not stopping the trafficking, it's enabling it. The drug in 614 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: question is MiFi press stone, the abortion pill. It's illegal 615 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 1: in fourteen states, yet according to the best available data, 616 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: roughly eight thousand pills are being mailed into those states 617 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: every month. Chemical abortions now account for an estimated sixty 618 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: to seventy percent of all abortions in the US. 619 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 5: After Roe v. 620 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: Wade was overturned, abortions declined briefly, but the widespread availability 621 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 1: of abortion pills has fueled a sharp rebound from approximately 622 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 1: nine hundred and thirty three thousand annually to more than 623 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: one point one million. The drug is crossing state lines, 624 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 1: not in speedboats, but. 625 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,399 Speaker 5: In mail trucks. Federal law prohibits. 626 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: The mailing of abortion inducing drugs, yet the laws not 627 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 1: being enforced. At the same time, the FDA has refused 628 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: to reverse a Biden era policy that dramatically expanded access 629 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: to these drugs without oversight. They are deadly to the unborn, 630 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 1: and mounting evidence shows they are dangerous for women as well, 631 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,240 Speaker 1: with studies indicating serious adverse effects and roughly eleven percent 632 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 1: of the cases. Louisiantoorney General Liz Murle has indicted doctors 633 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: from states such as California and New York for illegally 634 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 1: mailing abortion drugs into Louisiana. Several other states reports similar violations, 635 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: with lives lost and laws ignored. If the justification for 636 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 1: blowing up drug boats and extraditing a foreign president is 637 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 1: the trafficking of deadly illegal drugs, then consistency demands action 638 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 1: here as well. If the Trump Department of Justice and 639 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: FDA will not reverse these policies and respect the rights 640 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: of states to protect both mothers and the unborn, the 641 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: states may soon conclude they need their own madual law, 642 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 1: one that allows extraordinary measures when the federal government refuses 643 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: to act, and that was this week on Capitol Hill.