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Speaker 1: Welcome to Timeless Wisdom with Dennis Prager. Here thousands of

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Speaker 2: Thank you, I always very elsone Alcolos, thank you, thank you,

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Speaker 2: thank you well, thank you. I hope you feel this

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Speaker 2: way after my speech. It's very easy to applaud before

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Speaker 2: I'll see what happens afterwards. Rosemary, thank you for the

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Speaker 2: kind words. You mean a lot to me, and so

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Speaker 2: hearing such things, actually I'm ambivalent. On the one hand,

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Speaker 2: hearing such things from such a wonderful person, it's very

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Speaker 2: touching and moving. On the other hand, it's going to

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Speaker 2: be very hard to live up to everything you just heard.

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Speaker 2: So in a sense, I ask you to forget the

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Speaker 2: reduction because I can't live up to it. So let's

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Speaker 2: just work out the talk together. And I talk to

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Speaker 2: the folks responsible for bringing me, and we worked out

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Speaker 2: a subject which I think you'll find provocative. Are how

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Speaker 2: many of you, although it's hard for me to see,

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Speaker 2: I'm getting a sunburn here, actually, how many of you

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Speaker 2: are students? Would you raise your hands? Okay? So a great,

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Speaker 2: great number of you. This is those of you who

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Speaker 2: are not students, who are older than students, or have

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Speaker 2: you dropped out in first grade, whatever it might be.

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Speaker 2: Those of you who are not students. This talk is

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Speaker 2: dedicated to students, both college and for them matter. If

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Speaker 2: I think you'll find it of interest if you're not

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Speaker 2: a student. But I want the students to know it

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Speaker 2: really is dedicated to you. I was a college student,

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Speaker 2: I was a college teacher. I have a kids in college,

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Speaker 2: so that this comes from my heart as well as

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Speaker 2: my mind. I have a whole series of items I

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Speaker 2: want to review with you and then take your questions

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Speaker 2: and comments afterwards, because those are very important to me.

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Speaker 2: I've heard me a lot, but I've never heard you,

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Speaker 2: so I'm really interested in your reactions. In fact, some

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Speaker 2: of them may make it to my radio show tomorrow

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Speaker 2: quite possibly. In any event, the topic is what you

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Speaker 2: don't learn at college. Now, lest this be perceived as

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Speaker 2: anti college, which it could easily be perceived as such,

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Speaker 2: let me just say I always believed in Mark Twain's

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Speaker 2: famous dictum that I don't let school interfere with my education.

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Speaker 2: So there has always been a part of me that

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Speaker 2: has regarded life as a far greater teacher than school.

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Speaker 2: There's no question about that. On the other hand, let

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Speaker 2: me just say at the outset, I know that there

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Speaker 2: are things that you can learn at college. I don't

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Speaker 2: believe it is an entirely wasted time of one's life. Now,

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Speaker 2: that's so sad that you're laughing, because but I understand why.

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Speaker 2: It's really all a left handed compliment. There really are things,

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Speaker 2: and to be perfectly honest, seriously, I thank my college

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Speaker 2: experience for teaching me Russian. I could not have learned

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Speaker 2: that on my own. It was something I needed a

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Speaker 2: class for. I was blessed with a fine teacher at

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Speaker 2: was of immense value in my life. I later ended

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Speaker 2: my outlook, my career. There were things that I learned

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Speaker 2: in college of immense value. However, that is where college

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Speaker 2: can excel it can teach you things that you can't

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Speaker 2: the sciences. If you have a good teacher, you are

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Speaker 2: tremendously blessed in history and psychology and sociology. But know

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Speaker 2: that blessings are far and few between. Most teachers don't

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Speaker 2: teach well. This, by the way, is not at all

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Speaker 2: show hosts I'm a talk show host, are awful. They

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Speaker 2: change your life. Psychologists, I'm a big believer in psychotherapy,

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Speaker 2: Yet every single psychiatrist and psychologist I ever interviewed that

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Speaker 2: That's a very depressing statement, by the way, because people

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Speaker 2: I am not anti college or anti teacher or anti education.

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Speaker 2: I am telling you the truth. How many stores do

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Speaker 2: It's depressing. I end up telling them which is the

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Speaker 2: number of times. They end up asking, oh, really, you've

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Speaker 2: the fact that you are blessed if you had a

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Speaker 2: good teacher is a fact. It is just the way

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Speaker 2: it is. You're blessed if you get a good, good lawyer,

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Speaker 2: a good doctor, a good anything. I wish competition were

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Speaker 2: that they are competent. But by and large, in other

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Speaker 2: areas of life it's not the case. So please understand

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Speaker 2: put in perspective what I'm about to say. Okay, now,

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Speaker 2: having said that and saying that there are things you

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Speaker 2: That it is an extremely rare college and rare teacher

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Speaker 2: This is one of the most subversive thoughts you can

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Speaker 2: don't confront this fact, even though the parents in their

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Speaker 2: those of you who are in the adult generation, not

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Speaker 2: to insult college students as not being adults. But you

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Speaker 2: I want you to think now of your most trusted doctor, person,

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Speaker 2: one you most trust with your health. Raise your hand.

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Speaker 2: If you know what college he or she went to? Well,

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Speaker 2: to Yale? Does anyone talk like that? Next? How many

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Speaker 2: what it is do when people date? When people date,

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Speaker 2: the United States is a force for bed in the

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Speaker 2: world is the university. How is that? How do these

428
00:27:49,899 --> 00:27:56,220
Speaker 2: things happen? Unwise? Things? Forget immorals, just unwise? And then

429
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Speaker 2: I will tell you my theory. My theory is that

430
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Speaker 2: the lack of wisdom among intellectuals and at the university

431
00:28:06,939 --> 00:28:12,459
Speaker 2: emanates from the absence of God based thinking at the university.

432
00:28:13,300 --> 00:28:17,419
Speaker 2: I believe that secularism is a blessing for government, but

433
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Speaker 2: it's a curse for everything else, especially for understanding life.

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Speaker 2: And I remember standing in the large square in the

435
00:28:27,979 --> 00:28:32,859
Speaker 2: midst of Columbia University one day, just my brain frazzled

436
00:28:33,979 --> 00:28:37,139
Speaker 2: by all the nonsense I thought I had been learning.

437
00:28:38,140 --> 00:28:40,620
Speaker 2: And I give you my word, it dawned on me,

438
00:28:41,620 --> 00:28:47,260
Speaker 2: like some epiphany from God. I remembered what I had

439
00:28:47,340 --> 00:28:51,259
Speaker 2: said in religious school in first grade. Each day a

440
00:28:51,459 --> 00:28:55,860
Speaker 2: verse from the Book of Proverbs wisdom begins with fear

441
00:28:55,940 --> 00:29:01,340
Speaker 2: of God. And I realized, my God, this is a

442
00:29:01,420 --> 00:29:05,500
Speaker 2: godless place, so there's not going to be any wisdom.

443
00:29:06,300 --> 00:29:10,019
Speaker 2: And I do believe that secular people can be kind

444
00:29:10,180 --> 00:29:13,900
Speaker 2: and loving and wonderful. Religious people can be despicable and

445
00:29:14,140 --> 00:29:18,420
Speaker 2: mean and murderous, as we have seen. Obviously, I know that.

446
00:29:19,500 --> 00:29:22,060
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you what I don't believe exists, and

447
00:29:22,180 --> 00:29:26,580
Speaker 2: that is secular wisdom. When I think of wise people,

448
00:29:26,900 --> 00:29:32,660
Speaker 2: they all were rooted in some religious tradition. I don't

449
00:29:32,739 --> 00:29:36,660
Speaker 2: know how secularism can give you wisdom. I don't even

450
00:29:36,739 --> 00:29:41,019
Speaker 2: know if there is no God, then everything is random.

451
00:29:41,940 --> 00:29:46,300
Speaker 2: There is no order to life, there is no right

452
00:29:46,380 --> 00:29:49,740
Speaker 2: and wrong. All is relative, there is no truth, All

453
00:29:49,860 --> 00:29:55,020
Speaker 2: is relative, there is no order. Everything is chaos. That's

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Speaker 2: why one of the most common words at the university

455
00:29:58,420 --> 00:30:04,060
Speaker 2: today is deconstruction. What Shakespeare wrote and we don't know

456
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Speaker 2: what Shakespeare meant. We deconstruct Shakespeare. He didn't mean anything.

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Speaker 2: The text doesn't mean anything. There are many professors who

458
00:30:13,420 --> 00:30:16,140
Speaker 2: say that the text means nothing. It means whatever you

459
00:30:16,260 --> 00:30:21,860
Speaker 2: want it to mean. Now that's patent absurdity. But I

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00:30:22,100 --> 00:30:25,300
Speaker 2: understand why a secular world would come up with such

461
00:30:25,340 --> 00:30:29,979
Speaker 2: an idea. And so I tell you, I am convinced

462
00:30:30,020 --> 00:30:35,100
Speaker 2: that there is the most direct relationship between the absence

463
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Speaker 2: of God at the American University and at the European University,

464
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Speaker 2: and the absence of wisdom at these universities, and for

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Speaker 2: that matter, the absence of moral clarity, which brings me

466
00:30:48,300 --> 00:30:52,980
Speaker 2: to another thing. Therefore, that you won't learn. You get

467
00:30:53,140 --> 00:30:56,219
Speaker 2: the world. You see the world. You are taught the

468
00:30:56,340 --> 00:31:02,979
Speaker 2: world through secular eyes. You are never given an alternate

469
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Speaker 2: vision of the world. Colleges claim to open minds, but

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Speaker 2: as professor the late Professor Alan Bloom of University of

471
00:31:10,780 --> 00:31:16,140
Speaker 2: Chicago said, that's not true. The university's close minds, they

472
00:31:16,219 --> 00:31:20,420
Speaker 2: don't open them. And one clear example is you are

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Speaker 2: given as dogmatic a secular view of life at any

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Speaker 2: college you go to in America, as a Christian will

475
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Speaker 2: be given at a fundamentalist seminary a dogmatic Christian view

476
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Speaker 2: of life. If I told you that I studied my

477
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Speaker 2: entire life at Christian schools, would you think that my

478
00:31:42,900 --> 00:31:46,500
Speaker 2: mind were opened? You would say no, and by the way,

479
00:31:46,580 --> 00:31:50,340
Speaker 2: you would be right. But if I tell you that

480
00:31:50,459 --> 00:31:53,860
Speaker 2: I'd spent my entire life studying at secular schools, you

481
00:31:53,940 --> 00:31:57,180
Speaker 2: would think my mind were open. But why is that?

482
00:31:58,260 --> 00:32:01,540
Speaker 2: It is as dogmatic an insular a view of life

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Speaker 2: to only study from a secular standpoint as it is

484
00:32:05,940 --> 00:32:08,740
Speaker 2: to only study from a religious standpoint. I've had both.

485
00:32:09,660 --> 00:32:14,460
Speaker 2: I am very fortunate I came equipped into secular college

486
00:32:14,820 --> 00:32:18,700
Speaker 2: with a very strong religious background because I went through

487
00:32:18,900 --> 00:32:25,340
Speaker 2: high school to religious high school. Excuse me. That equipped

488
00:32:25,380 --> 00:32:31,420
Speaker 2: me to see the world differently. But I want you

489
00:32:31,540 --> 00:32:35,100
Speaker 2: to understand, if you have gone from kindergarten through college

490
00:32:35,140 --> 00:32:39,420
Speaker 2: here only to secular schools, you have been as given

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Speaker 2: as insular as narrow an education as anyone at any

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Speaker 2: religious school who only attended religious school. But here is

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00:32:50,580 --> 00:32:55,299
Speaker 2: the big difference. The religious schools are more honest than

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Speaker 2: the colleges. Religious schools admit we are giving you one

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Speaker 2: way to look at life through our religion, but colleges

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00:33:06,219 --> 00:33:09,380
Speaker 2: and universities do not admit that they are giving you

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Speaker 2: one way to look at life. They claim they're opening

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Speaker 2: your mind, that they are open and teach all viewpoints. No,

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Speaker 2: there is almost no teacher who gives a Judeo Christian

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Speaker 2: viewpoint on life at almost any college in the United

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Speaker 2: States of America outside of a religious leaning college, even

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Speaker 2: if you're an atheist. That should trouble you. This is

503
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Speaker 2: I'm not even advocating that it is right, though I

504
00:33:35,140 --> 00:33:38,620
Speaker 2: think it is right. I'm advocating that it doesn't happen.

505
00:33:38,900 --> 00:33:43,740
Speaker 2: And you can't claim to open minds when you close them,

506
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Speaker 2: which is what the universities are doing. I taught college,

507
00:33:48,340 --> 00:33:51,420
Speaker 2: and when I taught college kids, I realized that the

508
00:33:51,500 --> 00:33:56,580
Speaker 2: most basic religious ideas were utterly foreign to them. For example,

509
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Speaker 2: how do you speak of good and evil if there

510
00:33:59,100 --> 00:34:03,739
Speaker 2: is no moral transcendent source? How do you how do

511
00:34:03,820 --> 00:34:06,020
Speaker 2: you know murder? Is wrong if there is no God

512
00:34:06,100 --> 00:34:09,819
Speaker 2: who says thou shalt not murder. And I would look

513
00:34:09,820 --> 00:34:14,299
Speaker 2: at the students and it was blank blank. They had

514
00:34:14,460 --> 00:34:18,700
Speaker 2: never heard that challenge, one of the most basic philosophical

515
00:34:18,900 --> 00:34:23,340
Speaker 2: challenges in life. How can there be an absolute morality,

516
00:34:23,460 --> 00:34:26,379
Speaker 2: an objective good and evil if there is no God

517
00:34:26,540 --> 00:34:31,299
Speaker 2: from whom objective morality emanates. I mean, you should study that.

518
00:34:31,540 --> 00:34:35,739
Speaker 2: I don't care if you reject it, but intellectually I

519
00:34:35,779 --> 00:34:38,540
Speaker 2: don't care. I care passionately in another way, but I

520
00:34:38,660 --> 00:34:42,219
Speaker 2: want at least to be that it'd be confronted. But

521
00:34:42,339 --> 00:34:46,660
Speaker 2: it's not confronted. So you don't know this when you

522
00:34:46,779 --> 00:34:49,020
Speaker 2: go to an American college, but you are given a

523
00:34:49,420 --> 00:34:56,700
Speaker 2: very narrow slice of life, a secular, narrow, secular viewpoint.

524
00:34:57,700 --> 00:35:01,340
Speaker 2: Maybe it's valid, maybe it's not valid, but it's still narrow.

525
00:35:02,620 --> 00:35:05,140
Speaker 2: And that is a problem for wisdom, It is a

526
00:35:05,219 --> 00:35:08,500
Speaker 2: problem for morality, and it's a problem for your intellectual development.

527
00:35:09,060 --> 00:35:14,019
Speaker 2: You have to grapple with the great questions that religion poses. Now,

528
00:35:14,299 --> 00:35:17,259
Speaker 2: I know they teach religion colleges, but it's somewhat like

529
00:35:17,380 --> 00:35:21,260
Speaker 2: teaching voodoo. And now let's have a course the history

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00:35:21,660 --> 00:35:26,020
Speaker 2: of Christianity. Or Judaism taught by somebody who doesn't believe

531
00:35:26,060 --> 00:35:30,899
Speaker 2: in it. That's like me teaching witchcraft. I could teach it,

532
00:35:31,219 --> 00:35:32,859
Speaker 2: but I don't believe in it. And no, but none

533
00:35:32,900 --> 00:35:35,459
Speaker 2: of my students will. If anything, after the course, they're

534
00:35:35,500 --> 00:35:39,140
Speaker 2: more convinced than ever that the religion is irrelevant. They

535
00:35:39,219 --> 00:35:41,859
Speaker 2: were taught about something. It's like a museum. Let's visit

536
00:35:41,900 --> 00:35:47,780
Speaker 2: the Museum of Judeo Christian religions. Museums don't change your views,

537
00:35:47,859 --> 00:35:54,339
Speaker 2: they're just interesting to look at. In light of that,

538
00:35:54,700 --> 00:35:58,299
Speaker 2: this religious secular aspect is extremely important to what I

539
00:35:58,420 --> 00:36:01,980
Speaker 2: believe you don't get at university. In light of that,

540
00:36:02,140 --> 00:36:07,820
Speaker 2: I'll tell you another thing that is inevitably lacking understanding

541
00:36:07,980 --> 00:36:13,660
Speaker 2: how decisive for humanity religion is my teachers And I

542
00:36:13,700 --> 00:36:15,620
Speaker 2: don't know if it's different today or not, but my

543
00:36:15,819 --> 00:36:21,739
Speaker 2: teachers at college all believed in a secular realist viewpoint.

544
00:36:22,219 --> 00:36:27,299
Speaker 2: Materialist means that only matter is real, Okay, So they

545
00:36:27,339 --> 00:36:32,899
Speaker 2: would believe that everything is ultimately understood through for example, economics.

546
00:36:33,980 --> 00:36:37,499
Speaker 2: Why do people murder because they're impoverished? Why is their

547
00:36:37,580 --> 00:36:41,540
Speaker 2: crime because of poverty? Why is their terrorism because of

548
00:36:41,620 --> 00:36:44,379
Speaker 2: the Gulf between the North and South and wealth, and

549
00:36:44,980 --> 00:36:50,980
Speaker 2: people are just so angry at their economic situation. Economics

550
00:36:51,460 --> 00:36:57,140
Speaker 2: became the primary determinant of human moral behavior. But lo

551
00:36:57,299 --> 00:37:02,500
Speaker 2: and behold, that's also nonsense. Economics is far less powerful

552
00:37:02,540 --> 00:37:07,060
Speaker 2: an as a motivator in people's lives than religion. But

553
00:37:07,219 --> 00:37:11,420
Speaker 2: all the secular teachers had discounted religion. They believed it

554
00:37:11,540 --> 00:37:16,259
Speaker 2: really was economics. It's still believed the whole much much

555
00:37:16,460 --> 00:37:18,379
Speaker 2: not the whole. I can never say the whole, but

556
00:37:18,620 --> 00:37:21,060
Speaker 2: much of the left, which finds its head orders at

557
00:37:21,100 --> 00:37:24,739
Speaker 2: the university, actually believes that's not meant as a joke.

558
00:37:24,779 --> 00:37:27,379
Speaker 2: That's where its headquarters are. Is the rights headquarters would

559
00:37:27,380 --> 00:37:31,380
Speaker 2: be at at churches. It's and and for the religious

560
00:37:31,460 --> 00:37:34,779
Speaker 2: right in any and in any event, or or at

561
00:37:34,819 --> 00:37:36,899
Speaker 2: the Wall Street Journal, for the for the for the

562
00:37:37,020 --> 00:37:41,980
Speaker 2: secular secular right. But here at the university. It is

563
00:37:42,060 --> 00:37:45,660
Speaker 2: believed that the United States of America was attacked on

564
00:37:45,779 --> 00:37:49,980
Speaker 2: nine to eleven in large measure because of the economic

565
00:37:50,100 --> 00:37:54,219
Speaker 2: deprivation that is that is so endemic to the Islamic world,

566
00:37:54,940 --> 00:37:59,620
Speaker 2: all the poverty. May I say, there is no truth

567
00:37:59,819 --> 00:38:02,980
Speaker 2: to that statement. It is as close to entirely wrong

568
00:38:03,060 --> 00:38:06,580
Speaker 2: as you can get it's not entirely wrong. Nothing is

569
00:38:06,779 --> 00:38:09,859
Speaker 2: entirely wrong, all right, I mean I could. The Earth

570
00:38:09,940 --> 00:38:12,540
Speaker 2: is flat is not entirely wrong. Look at this platform.

571
00:38:12,660 --> 00:38:16,180
Speaker 2: Is this not flat? So, after all there is some

572
00:38:16,380 --> 00:38:19,380
Speaker 2: truth to the earth is flat, but it's a large untruth.

573
00:38:20,460 --> 00:38:22,380
Speaker 2: The the people who attacked us on nine to eleven

574
00:38:22,700 --> 00:38:27,219
Speaker 2: were wealthy. The leading terrorist on Earth is wealthier than

575
00:38:27,299 --> 00:38:30,540
Speaker 2: any of you in this room, probably wealthier than everyone

576
00:38:30,620 --> 00:38:34,859
Speaker 2: in this auditorium put together. Osama bin Laden is a billionaire.

577
00:38:37,980 --> 00:38:40,819
Speaker 2: It's a billionaire who ran it. And it is the

578
00:38:41,060 --> 00:38:45,540
Speaker 2: sons of millionaires and upper class and upper middle class

579
00:38:45,660 --> 00:38:48,460
Speaker 2: people from Saudi Arabia, one of the richest places in

580
00:38:48,500 --> 00:38:51,100
Speaker 2: the world, who attacked us. And a couple of them

581
00:38:51,140 --> 00:38:54,060
Speaker 2: where Egyptian and their parents were in the upper crust

582
00:38:54,140 --> 00:39:00,779
Speaker 2: of Egypt. None of them had experienced poverty. None. Poverty

583
00:39:00,859 --> 00:39:03,779
Speaker 2: has nothing to do with why we were attacked on

584
00:39:03,859 --> 00:39:08,180
Speaker 2: nine to eleven. Religion has everything to do with it everything,

585
00:39:08,580 --> 00:39:12,540
Speaker 2: But the secular intellectual can't acknowledge that because he has

586
00:39:12,620 --> 00:39:18,779
Speaker 2: spent his life learning and teaching that religion is largely irrelevant.

587
00:39:19,980 --> 00:39:23,860
Speaker 2: That religion is essentially like using leeches to draw blood.

588
00:39:24,580 --> 00:39:29,739
Speaker 2: It's an ancient, archaic, anachronism that is no longer relevant

589
00:39:29,819 --> 00:39:33,140
Speaker 2: to humanity, but it is relevant to humanity, and if

590
00:39:33,180 --> 00:39:36,460
Speaker 2: you don't understand how it motivates people, you can't understand

591
00:39:36,500 --> 00:39:40,739
Speaker 2: the world today. That is why so many again at

592
00:39:40,779 --> 00:39:44,300
Speaker 2: the university. Whether you agree with President Bush on attacking

593
00:39:44,380 --> 00:39:47,580
Speaker 2: Iraq or not is not my issue tonight today. To

594
00:39:47,660 --> 00:39:51,060
Speaker 2: be precise, it won't be tonight either, but right now

595
00:39:51,140 --> 00:39:54,219
Speaker 2: it is not my issue. Is only to tell you

596
00:39:54,700 --> 00:40:00,339
Speaker 2: how many people discount him by saying it's economics. Once again,

597
00:40:00,420 --> 00:40:04,420
Speaker 2: this has not left the intellectual world. Oh, it's for

598
00:40:04,540 --> 00:40:08,299
Speaker 2: oil now, there's no truth about the oil thing. If

599
00:40:08,380 --> 00:40:12,219
Speaker 2: we wanted oil, we would make deals with Saddam Hussein,

600
00:40:12,580 --> 00:40:15,700
Speaker 2: not attack him. France makes deals with his oil for

601
00:40:15,819 --> 00:40:19,899
Speaker 2: his oil. Russia makes deals for his oil, Japan makes

602
00:40:19,980 --> 00:40:22,900
Speaker 2: deals for his We could make deals for his oil.

603
00:40:23,980 --> 00:40:26,700
Speaker 2: In fact, the less oil from the Middle East, the

604
00:40:26,859 --> 00:40:30,420
Speaker 2: better it is for American oil companies because then price

605
00:40:30,500 --> 00:40:34,580
Speaker 2: of oil rises and they can drill more. American oil

606
00:40:34,700 --> 00:40:38,620
Speaker 2: companies benefit when there is a lack of oil coming

607
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Speaker 2: from the Middle East. It's when oil prices are cheap

608
00:40:43,180 --> 00:40:48,339
Speaker 2: that the oil companies in America make less money. There's

609
00:40:48,460 --> 00:40:52,540
Speaker 2: no truth to that issue, but it's believed because we

610
00:40:52,660 --> 00:40:55,420
Speaker 2: can't imagine that there are other things that may motivate

611
00:40:56,100 --> 00:40:59,580
Speaker 2: either our attackers or our defenders, like the president. That

612
00:40:59,700 --> 00:41:03,899
Speaker 2: the President really is animated by a moral view of

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00:41:03,980 --> 00:41:07,660
Speaker 2: the world emanating from his Christianity is so foreign to

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00:41:07,739 --> 00:41:11,620
Speaker 2: the average professor's outlook and so scary that he rather

615
00:41:11,779 --> 00:41:16,620
Speaker 2: believe it is just a matter of ego, finishing his

616
00:41:16,779 --> 00:41:20,779
Speaker 2: father's job with Iraq, or a matter of money. As

617
00:41:20,859 --> 00:41:30,499
Speaker 2: Barbara streishand one of America's great thinkers, said recently, all right,

618
00:41:30,660 --> 00:41:34,140
Speaker 2: onto the micro things that you're not taught at college.

619
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Speaker 2: You're not taught at college that it's important to marry.

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00:41:40,819 --> 00:41:43,180
Speaker 2: In fact, you're taught that it's not important to marry.

621
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Speaker 2: That it's most important for you to figure out what

622
00:41:48,259 --> 00:41:52,820
Speaker 2: career you will pursue, boy or girl, female or male student.

623
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Speaker 2: But lo and behold, let me tell you, as one

624
00:41:57,420 --> 00:42:02,140
Speaker 2: who has lived far more than college students have, and

625
00:42:02,460 --> 00:42:06,980
Speaker 2: one who organizes singles events, massive singles events through my

626
00:42:07,140 --> 00:42:10,379
Speaker 2: radio station, six hundred singles at a time, show up,

627
00:42:10,940 --> 00:42:14,259
Speaker 2: paying thirty dollars each. I don't get that money. I

628
00:42:14,420 --> 00:42:17,300
Speaker 2: just want to make that clear. But we do organize

629
00:42:17,339 --> 00:42:19,580
Speaker 2: it through my radio station because I really believe that

630
00:42:19,620 --> 00:42:22,500
Speaker 2: people should get married. It is best for them, and

631
00:42:22,739 --> 00:42:26,460
Speaker 2: certainly it is best for society. Marriage is a dirty

632
00:42:26,580 --> 00:42:32,299
Speaker 2: word at college. Career is a sanctified word at college. Now,

633
00:42:32,460 --> 00:42:37,859
Speaker 2: career is fine. I'm not anti career. But and here

634
00:42:37,980 --> 00:42:40,980
Speaker 2: is where we go back to my point number one, wisdom.

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00:42:42,380 --> 00:42:47,379
Speaker 2: Here's a word of wisdom. In the final analysis, for

636
00:42:47,700 --> 00:42:52,140
Speaker 2: most people, marriage will be more determinant of their happiness

637
00:42:52,500 --> 00:42:58,939
Speaker 2: than what they do for a living, especially women. Which

638
00:42:59,060 --> 00:43:03,340
Speaker 2: is regarded as a sexist comment. It's regarded as sexist

639
00:43:03,420 --> 00:43:07,379
Speaker 2: because I'm saying that certain ideas of life apply more

640
00:43:07,420 --> 00:43:09,859
Speaker 2: to females than to males, or more to males than

641
00:43:09,900 --> 00:43:12,900
Speaker 2: to females. Anytime you ever say there's a difference between

642
00:43:12,940 --> 00:43:15,899
Speaker 2: men and women, you are taught not to think this

643
00:43:16,100 --> 00:43:18,219
Speaker 2: is a problem. At college, you're not taught to think.

644
00:43:18,739 --> 00:43:22,100
Speaker 2: You're taught to use labels to disc a idea that's

645
00:43:22,180 --> 00:43:26,500
Speaker 2: sexist and the issue that's it. There's that way you're

646
00:43:26,540 --> 00:43:30,019
Speaker 2: free from thinking. And I know that many students hearing

647
00:43:30,060 --> 00:43:32,980
Speaker 2: what I just said, that this is particularly true for women,

648
00:43:33,339 --> 00:43:37,580
Speaker 2: thought this is a sexist comment. You've been programmed. You

649
00:43:37,660 --> 00:43:41,100
Speaker 2: are programmed not to think. You are programmed to have

650
00:43:41,180 --> 00:43:49,739
Speaker 2: an ist response, sexist, racist, agist, homophobist even though it's homophobic.

651
00:43:50,219 --> 00:43:53,060
Speaker 2: You are taught not to actually think through an issue,

652
00:43:53,339 --> 00:43:56,900
Speaker 2: but to have a one line dismissal of a person's views.

653
00:43:57,859 --> 00:43:59,899
Speaker 2: Having a talk show, I know I can't do that.

654
00:44:00,060 --> 00:44:02,740
Speaker 2: If I just called people who disagreed with me by names,

655
00:44:03,100 --> 00:44:04,940
Speaker 2: I would lose my show because I would be a

656
00:44:05,140 --> 00:44:09,019
Speaker 2: boring and be regarded as a jerk. But you can't

657
00:44:09,100 --> 00:44:12,140
Speaker 2: lose your job at college, which is part of the

658
00:44:12,219 --> 00:44:15,379
Speaker 2: reasons that the reason that wisdom is not often taught

659
00:44:15,460 --> 00:44:19,259
Speaker 2: here because there's no price paid for having dumb ideas.

660
00:44:19,940 --> 00:44:26,380
Speaker 2: In fact, you get tenure. It's a very important point.

661
00:44:26,620 --> 00:44:30,060
Speaker 2: It's a very important point. Dumb ideas in the business

662
00:44:30,140 --> 00:44:34,700
Speaker 2: world your company goes bankrupt, dumb ideas in the college world,

663
00:44:35,100 --> 00:44:37,620
Speaker 2: and if they're said articulately enough, you get paid a

664
00:44:37,660 --> 00:44:43,100
Speaker 2: handsome salary and can't get fired. There's a very important distinction.

665
00:44:43,580 --> 00:44:46,700
Speaker 2: That's why there are many dumb ideas here. There's no

666
00:44:47,180 --> 00:44:50,259
Speaker 2: accounting for it. There's no accountability. You don't pay a

667
00:44:50,339 --> 00:44:55,660
Speaker 2: price for it. Let's go back to marriage. I was

668
00:44:55,739 --> 00:44:58,180
Speaker 2: in the heyday of feminism. When I went to college,

669
00:44:58,460 --> 00:45:01,859
Speaker 2: the feminism landed like some medior out of the sky

670
00:45:02,339 --> 00:45:08,660
Speaker 2: and squashed people. And while there were certainly valid elements

671
00:45:08,739 --> 00:45:12,100
Speaker 2: to it, again, no doctrine is only invalid, they were

672
00:45:12,180 --> 00:45:17,180
Speaker 2: valid elements, it did have a very strong bias towards

673
00:45:17,259 --> 00:45:22,060
Speaker 2: career for women and a strong bias against feeling that

674
00:45:22,180 --> 00:45:25,980
Speaker 2: they needed a man. One of the most common bumper

675
00:45:26,060 --> 00:45:29,980
Speaker 2: sticker ideas of my time was a woman without a

676
00:45:30,060 --> 00:45:33,180
Speaker 2: man is like a fish without a bicycle, which is

677
00:45:33,219 --> 00:45:35,180
Speaker 2: a very funny line. By the way, I always enjoy

678
00:45:35,259 --> 00:45:43,499
Speaker 2: that line. You need a man women like fish need bicycles. Well,

679
00:45:43,620 --> 00:45:46,700
Speaker 2: the truth is that that's not true. Women need men

680
00:45:46,779 --> 00:45:49,739
Speaker 2: and men need women. That is, if they want to

681
00:45:49,779 --> 00:45:55,739
Speaker 2: grow up. Ah. That, however, is not something that you're

682
00:45:55,779 --> 00:45:59,779
Speaker 2: supposed to do with college. Growing up is not part

683
00:45:59,819 --> 00:46:03,540
Speaker 2: of the curriculum. Getting a degree is part of the curriculum,

684
00:46:03,620 --> 00:46:06,060
Speaker 2: but growing up is not. I'm not even fault in

685
00:46:06,140 --> 00:46:09,060
Speaker 2: college for this. The college can't do everything. But I

686
00:46:09,219 --> 00:46:11,779
Speaker 2: just want you to know that you don't grow up

687
00:46:11,819 --> 00:46:14,779
Speaker 2: at college. You grow up when you leave college. And

688
00:46:14,900 --> 00:46:17,020
Speaker 2: that's why I suspect that a lot of people who

689
00:46:17,140 --> 00:46:21,539
Speaker 2: never leave academic life. Who go from kindergarten, graduate school,

690
00:46:21,580 --> 00:46:24,140
Speaker 2: and then to teach at college don't grow up. There

691
00:46:24,219 --> 00:46:28,660
Speaker 2: are exceptions, but there are very few and far between,

692
00:46:29,380 --> 00:46:32,259
Speaker 2: because how could you not If all you are is

693
00:46:32,299 --> 00:46:35,219
Speaker 2: with students your whole life, how will you grow up?

694
00:46:35,779 --> 00:46:38,060
Speaker 2: You grow up being a waiter for a year. I

695
00:46:38,140 --> 00:46:40,499
Speaker 2: beg people after high school, I beg them to take

696
00:46:40,540 --> 00:46:43,580
Speaker 2: a year off before college. Be a waiter, be a waitress,

697
00:46:45,100 --> 00:46:52,739
Speaker 2: travel on some merchant marine ship, do anything, look at

698
00:46:52,859 --> 00:46:57,219
Speaker 2: lime of beans, grow, but do something other than school.

699
00:46:57,660 --> 00:47:01,020
Speaker 2: You've done it since you're four. Isn't it time to

700
00:47:01,100 --> 00:47:04,740
Speaker 2: take a break. Isn't it time to actually live life?

701
00:47:06,259 --> 00:47:09,340
Speaker 2: But people who go straight to PhD without ever taking

702
00:47:09,420 --> 00:47:12,859
Speaker 2: time to live and experience life and then teach, having

703
00:47:12,940 --> 00:47:16,180
Speaker 2: never experienced life, how could they impart wisdom about life

704
00:47:16,219 --> 00:47:18,700
Speaker 2: when they've never touched life. They've only been in school.

705
00:47:19,660 --> 00:47:23,419
Speaker 2: College is basically high school for older kids. That's really

706
00:47:23,500 --> 00:47:25,940
Speaker 2: what it is. That's not a condemnation. That is what

707
00:47:26,100 --> 00:47:32,419
Speaker 2: it is. So girls were told at college, young women,

708
00:47:32,660 --> 00:47:34,700
Speaker 2: whatever verb you wish to whatever now and you wish

709
00:47:34,779 --> 00:47:37,700
Speaker 2: to use, were taught, you don't need a man, you

710
00:47:38,100 --> 00:47:41,299
Speaker 2: need a career now I'm not saying girls should not

711
00:47:41,380 --> 00:47:44,500
Speaker 2: get prepared professionally. That's not my point at all. My

712
00:47:44,660 --> 00:47:46,660
Speaker 2: point is you do need a man if you want

713
00:47:46,700 --> 00:47:49,219
Speaker 2: to be happy and you want to grow up. Now,

714
00:47:49,339 --> 00:47:51,180
Speaker 2: I'm sure a lot of people want to grow up,

715
00:47:51,219 --> 00:47:52,740
Speaker 2: but a lot of people do want to be happy.

716
00:47:54,060 --> 00:47:56,980
Speaker 2: And when I meet all these singles at the events

717
00:47:57,020 --> 00:48:01,180
Speaker 2: that I make, and you should hear my shows on

718
00:48:01,299 --> 00:48:05,020
Speaker 2: this issue. Women now in your forties call me up

719
00:48:05,060 --> 00:48:07,620
Speaker 2: if you're single. Do you feel that you were given

720
00:48:07,700 --> 00:48:12,459
Speaker 2: good advice about marriage at college from feminism? You should

721
00:48:12,500 --> 00:48:17,380
Speaker 2: hear these highly professional women making six figure incomes writing

722
00:48:17,460 --> 00:48:19,859
Speaker 2: me and calling me and telling me they were sold

723
00:48:19,900 --> 00:48:21,859
Speaker 2: a bill of goods when they were at college. That

724
00:48:22,060 --> 00:48:24,140
Speaker 2: career is everything and they could wait as long as

725
00:48:24,180 --> 00:48:26,739
Speaker 2: they want because when they make a good career, they

726
00:48:26,779 --> 00:48:29,100
Speaker 2: could pick any man they want as if they're men.

727
00:48:30,100 --> 00:48:33,180
Speaker 2: But here's the real thing about life that you won't

728
00:48:33,259 --> 00:48:36,700
Speaker 2: learn in women's studies, that you won't learn in sociology

729
00:48:36,819 --> 00:48:40,979
Speaker 2: or psychology, that women's stock for marriage is greatest when

730
00:48:40,980 --> 00:48:45,100
Speaker 2: they're youngest. That's a sad, unfair fact of life. That

731
00:48:45,219 --> 00:48:47,060
Speaker 2: it's a hell of a lot easier to find a

732
00:48:47,100 --> 00:48:50,299
Speaker 2: man at twenty five than at forty five. Okay, it's

733
00:48:50,420 --> 00:48:55,220
Speaker 2: not fair, but that's life, that's wisdom, that's not theory.

734
00:48:56,420 --> 00:49:02,100
Speaker 2: And so you ask, don't ask me, ask single women

735
00:49:02,219 --> 00:49:09,060
Speaker 2: in their forties. Don't ask me, ask the women. Ask

736
00:49:09,140 --> 00:49:11,540
Speaker 2: the women who come to the singles of anesa winners,

737
00:49:11,900 --> 00:49:18,899
Speaker 2: good looking, successful income earners and alone and somehow or

738
00:49:18,940 --> 00:49:23,219
Speaker 2: other make a AE hundred facts in marketing or in

739
00:49:23,420 --> 00:49:26,859
Speaker 2: law or whatever they're doing. When they go home, back

740
00:49:26,900 --> 00:49:29,140
Speaker 2: to their wonderful home that they have bought with their

741
00:49:29,180 --> 00:49:33,739
Speaker 2: own income, and there's nobody there, it doesn't quite do

742
00:49:34,020 --> 00:49:38,299
Speaker 2: what they were promised in college. College sells girls a

743
00:49:38,420 --> 00:49:41,459
Speaker 2: bill of goods. It doesn't sell boys a bill of goods.

744
00:49:41,580 --> 00:49:44,739
Speaker 2: Boys are thrilled with the nonsense. Girls are told you

745
00:49:44,940 --> 00:49:50,140
Speaker 2: don't need commitment, and guys are going, hey, awesome, Yeah,

746
00:49:51,140 --> 00:49:57,819
Speaker 2: that's my college. Guys love the nonsense that girls are

747
00:49:57,859 --> 00:50:02,660
Speaker 2: taught commitment. No, you don't want commitment. You wanna do

748
00:50:02,779 --> 00:50:09,020
Speaker 2: whatever you want, be free like men. I was just reading,

749
00:50:09,299 --> 00:50:12,900
Speaker 2: just reading, justin Yesterday's New York Times, there's an article

750
00:50:12,980 --> 00:50:16,259
Speaker 2: on all the sex columnists in the various college newspapers

751
00:50:16,299 --> 00:50:19,539
Speaker 2: around the country, and they were talking about this young

752
00:50:19,580 --> 00:50:21,899
Speaker 2: woman twenty years old was the sex columnist for the

753
00:50:22,020 --> 00:50:27,380
Speaker 2: Yale Daily News. And she writes about everything, I mean everything,

754
00:50:27,580 --> 00:50:31,180
Speaker 2: tips on no pun intended, tips on oral sex, everything,

755
00:50:31,660 --> 00:50:35,019
Speaker 2: and she, you know everything, And how does she look

756
00:50:35,060 --> 00:50:38,419
Speaker 2: at life? Well, frankly, there isn't any Yale man I've

757
00:50:38,500 --> 00:50:42,900
Speaker 2: yet met who believes in commitment. So she's an expert

758
00:50:43,259 --> 00:50:47,020
Speaker 2: on fillatio or I don't know, from practice or from theory.

759
00:50:47,140 --> 00:50:49,180
Speaker 2: I don't know, and I'm not interested. No, no, no,

760
00:50:49,339 --> 00:50:52,700
Speaker 2: in all seriousness because she is not autobiographical. But she's

761
00:50:52,739 --> 00:50:55,299
Speaker 2: an expert on it. But she has no man in

762
00:50:55,380 --> 00:50:59,140
Speaker 2: her life. Whoopee do. What a great thing to be

763
00:50:59,219 --> 00:51:05,779
Speaker 2: an expert on. The guys are thrilled. The guys at

764
00:51:05,859 --> 00:51:08,499
Speaker 2: Yale think this is the greatest thing since since lice

765
00:51:08,540 --> 00:51:11,060
Speaker 2: bread that the girls are being taught to. Hey, you

766
00:51:11,100 --> 00:51:13,420
Speaker 2: don't want to think of marriage and commitment. You just

767
00:51:13,500 --> 00:51:16,060
Speaker 2: want to think a career, because you're really just men

768
00:51:16,140 --> 00:51:18,739
Speaker 2: who happen to have breasts. That is what they're told,

769
00:51:18,940 --> 00:51:21,660
Speaker 2: And men just happen to be women who don't have breasts.

770
00:51:22,020 --> 00:51:24,219
Speaker 2: That is what is taught at college. You're all the

771
00:51:24,339 --> 00:51:27,500
Speaker 2: same men and women are basically the same gender. Identity

772
00:51:27,620 --> 00:51:30,980
Speaker 2: is just a patriarchal construct. So here you go. So

773
00:51:31,100 --> 00:51:33,740
Speaker 2: come on, girls, get with it and act like guys

774
00:51:34,060 --> 00:51:36,739
Speaker 2: and seek different partners as often as possible for a

775
00:51:36,819 --> 00:51:40,500
Speaker 2: sexual rump. But the girls don't find it that brings happiness.

776
00:51:41,700 --> 00:51:45,100
Speaker 2: Maybe at nineteen it's a lark, but by twenty five

777
00:51:45,219 --> 00:51:47,539
Speaker 2: and thirty it's not a lark. The guys are still

778
00:51:47,580 --> 00:51:49,540
Speaker 2: finding it a lark. My god, there are men in

779
00:51:49,580 --> 00:51:51,740
Speaker 2: their seventies who find it a lark. Look at Hugh Hefner.

780
00:51:52,819 --> 00:51:56,140
Speaker 2: So that's very important. That's why if guys don't marry,

781
00:51:56,180 --> 00:51:58,180
Speaker 2: they don't grow up, because guys could act like that.

782
00:51:58,339 --> 00:51:59,899
Speaker 2: I'm a guy, I know this. I'm writing a book

783
00:51:59,940 --> 00:52:03,660
Speaker 2: on male sexual nature. We are boys. Unless we marry,

784
00:52:03,700 --> 00:52:07,779
Speaker 2: we remain boys forever. Okay, that's just the way it is.

785
00:52:09,140 --> 00:52:15,779
Speaker 2: And girls without commitment from somebody, somebody to love and

786
00:52:15,900 --> 00:52:19,779
Speaker 2: make a life with life. For the vast majority of females,

787
00:52:19,819 --> 00:52:23,180
Speaker 2: except for those of the Women's Studies department, do feel

788
00:52:23,900 --> 00:52:27,300
Speaker 2: that it is not a full life. You're not taught

789
00:52:27,339 --> 00:52:30,779
Speaker 2: this at college. You are taught the opposite. It's okay

790
00:52:30,859 --> 00:52:32,620
Speaker 2: to look for a husband when you're twenty one. You

791
00:52:32,739 --> 00:52:35,700
Speaker 2: know that I'm not saying you'll find I'm not saying

792
00:52:35,779 --> 00:52:40,500
Speaker 2: you should marry at twenty three, but I am saying that.

793
00:52:40,620 --> 00:52:42,460
Speaker 2: I'll tell you this that if a girl finds a

794
00:52:42,500 --> 00:52:45,060
Speaker 2: great guy when she's twenty three and she throws him

795
00:52:45,100 --> 00:52:48,340
Speaker 2: away because she's not finished pursuing her career, she's an idiot.

796
00:52:49,460 --> 00:52:54,739
Speaker 2: She has committed happiness suicide. Probably, not definitely. Probably. And

797
00:52:54,859 --> 00:52:57,259
Speaker 2: I only know this from women. I didn't make this up.

798
00:52:57,380 --> 00:52:59,700
Speaker 2: This is in theory. I didn't read this in books

799
00:53:00,460 --> 00:53:03,419
Speaker 2: at women's studies one oh one. I know this from

800
00:53:03,540 --> 00:53:06,779
Speaker 2: real life women who did throw away men at twenty

801
00:53:06,859 --> 00:53:09,939
Speaker 2: three because they thought that they will be forever available.

802
00:53:10,420 --> 00:53:14,379
Speaker 2: Wonderful men. Wonderful men are available, but they tend to

803
00:53:14,540 --> 00:53:24,620
Speaker 2: be married. That is a fact. That is what women say,

804
00:53:24,700 --> 00:53:26,859
Speaker 2: and women are right. And there's a reason that the

805
00:53:26,940 --> 00:53:29,859
Speaker 2: best men tend to be married. Because marriage makes men better,

806
00:53:30,460 --> 00:53:32,540
Speaker 2: simple as that. And because the best men tend to

807
00:53:32,580 --> 00:53:35,499
Speaker 2: believe in commitment, even though it does go against their

808
00:53:35,980 --> 00:53:38,700
Speaker 2: non monogamous nature. A lot of what is good for

809
00:53:38,859 --> 00:53:44,100
Speaker 2: us goes against our nature. Okay, so that you won't learn.

810
00:53:46,460 --> 00:53:51,819
Speaker 2: And finally, two things you don't learn here. I don't

811
00:53:51,859 --> 00:53:55,300
Speaker 2: mean at this specific place at here, being the US College.

812
00:53:55,660 --> 00:53:59,700
Speaker 2: You don't learn at the US College that you are

813
00:53:59,779 --> 00:54:07,299
Speaker 2: the biggest problem in your life. You learn that society

814
00:54:07,900 --> 00:54:10,899
Speaker 2: is the biggest problem in your life, that economics is

815
00:54:10,940 --> 00:54:13,419
Speaker 2: the biggest problem in your life. That if you are

816
00:54:13,460 --> 00:54:16,419
Speaker 2: a black, racism is the biggest problem of your life.

817
00:54:16,500 --> 00:54:19,380
Speaker 2: That if you're a woman, sexism is the biggest problem

818
00:54:19,420 --> 00:54:21,899
Speaker 2: in your life. That if you're you're gay, homophobia is

819
00:54:21,940 --> 00:54:26,219
Speaker 2: the biggest problem in your life, and so on down

820
00:54:26,259 --> 00:54:30,299
Speaker 2: the line. But you never learn the truth that for

821
00:54:30,380 --> 00:54:34,740
Speaker 2: the vast majority of people in this society, our biggest

822
00:54:34,779 --> 00:54:40,419
Speaker 2: problems are us. You don't learn that, and that's why

823
00:54:40,500 --> 00:54:43,299
Speaker 2: it's very unlikely you will lead a happy life if

824
00:54:43,339 --> 00:54:47,020
Speaker 2: you don't understand that basic principle of life, that your

825
00:54:47,100 --> 00:54:51,459
Speaker 2: biggest problem will always be you. That is the way

826
00:54:51,500 --> 00:54:55,979
Speaker 2: it is. Oh sure there's racism and sexism and homophobia

827
00:54:56,020 --> 00:54:58,540
Speaker 2: and all these other bad things in the world, but

828
00:54:58,660 --> 00:55:02,339
Speaker 2: they are so largely insignificant to a life that is

829
00:55:02,420 --> 00:55:05,420
Speaker 2: dedicated to getting ahead in this country that the biggest

830
00:55:05,460 --> 00:55:08,739
Speaker 2: problem remains you. And every minute you waste thinking that

831
00:55:08,859 --> 00:55:12,460
Speaker 2: the other things are bigger problems, that they are the

832
00:55:12,500 --> 00:55:15,339
Speaker 2: big problems. You have wasted a minute where you could

833
00:55:15,380 --> 00:55:28,819
Speaker 2: work on you. And and finally, finally, you are not

834
00:55:29,140 --> 00:55:33,739
Speaker 2: taught here what it is to be an American. This

835
00:55:33,940 --> 00:55:36,900
Speaker 2: is a major tragedy for you. It's a major tragedy

836
00:55:37,259 --> 00:55:40,379
Speaker 2: for America. You aren't taught this in high school. You

837
00:55:40,420 --> 00:55:42,859
Speaker 2: aren't taught this in elementary school. This is not at

838
00:55:42,940 --> 00:55:46,779
Speaker 2: all unique to the university. But you are not taught

839
00:55:46,819 --> 00:55:51,379
Speaker 2: what it is to be an American. Rootedness and American

840
00:55:51,540 --> 00:55:56,979
Speaker 2: identity are not taught. Rather, multiculturalism is taught. Look where

841
00:55:57,020 --> 00:56:00,219
Speaker 2: your ancestors are from. That's where you should find your

842
00:56:00,299 --> 00:56:04,140
Speaker 2: identity instead of look to America and find your identity

843
00:56:04,219 --> 00:56:09,419
Speaker 2: as an American. Indeed, the cultivation of non American Americans

844
00:56:10,299 --> 00:56:13,060
Speaker 2: is almost an agenda at most of our high schools

845
00:56:13,100 --> 00:56:16,379
Speaker 2: and colleges, because it is feared that if you are

846
00:56:16,500 --> 00:56:21,140
Speaker 2: too American, you'll be a right wing fanatic. Indeed, the

847
00:56:21,259 --> 00:56:26,620
Speaker 2: two are considered synonymous for many intellectuals. This is a

848
00:56:26,739 --> 00:56:30,979
Speaker 2: tragedy because America needs in the land of people from

849
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Speaker 2: so many countries. The motto of our country, the motto

850
00:56:34,900 --> 00:56:40,020
Speaker 2: is a plutabus unim from many one. Our colleges and

851
00:56:40,140 --> 00:56:45,939
Speaker 2: high schools have changed it from e plutabus plutabum, from

852
00:56:46,060 --> 00:56:52,180
Speaker 2: many many, from many one. You can have many other identities.

853
00:56:52,219 --> 00:56:55,940
Speaker 2: I have a very strong Jewish religious identity. Absolutely. I

854
00:56:56,060 --> 00:56:59,140
Speaker 2: learned Hebrew, I speak it fluently. It is a very

855
00:56:59,660 --> 00:57:03,660
Speaker 2: profoundly enriching part of my life. There's no question. But

856
00:57:03,819 --> 00:57:08,419
Speaker 2: I am rooted as an American. This is critical. Being

857
00:57:08,460 --> 00:57:12,100
Speaker 2: American doesn't mean you have no other identities, you have

858
00:57:12,339 --> 00:57:17,419
Speaker 2: no other senses of importance. Of course you do. That's

859
00:57:17,580 --> 00:57:21,780
Speaker 2: just fine. Mexican Americans can have a great sense of

860
00:57:21,980 --> 00:57:25,940
Speaker 2: heritage from Mexico, a great love of Spanish, whatever it

861
00:57:26,060 --> 00:57:30,860
Speaker 2: might be. Vietnamese Americans likewise, But you are an American.

862
00:57:32,980 --> 00:57:34,860
Speaker 2: You are an American with everyone on you know how

863
00:57:34,900 --> 00:57:37,620
Speaker 2: I learned this a great story. This was absolutely one

864
00:57:37,660 --> 00:57:39,700
Speaker 2: of the great stories that ever happened to me. And

865
00:57:39,780 --> 00:57:45,580
Speaker 2: as a subtle little thing. Twenty five years ago, yeah,

866
00:57:45,580 --> 00:57:47,140
Speaker 2: I would say twenty five years ago. I was in

867
00:57:47,260 --> 00:57:52,180
Speaker 2: Kenya in East Africa, just traveling. I love traveling. I've

868
00:57:52,220 --> 00:57:54,780
Speaker 2: been to seventy two countries, most of them at least twice.

869
00:57:55,500 --> 00:57:58,140
Speaker 2: I've been to all seven continents. I think travel is

870
00:57:58,260 --> 00:58:00,500
Speaker 2: one of the great teachers. So I was in Kenyon.

871
00:58:00,540 --> 00:58:02,780
Speaker 2: I was alone. Much of my travel was done alone,

872
00:58:02,820 --> 00:58:05,340
Speaker 2: certainly all of it before I was married. And I

873
00:58:05,460 --> 00:58:08,180
Speaker 2: was in Kenyon. I was standing in a street shop,

874
00:58:09,820 --> 00:58:13,300
Speaker 2: window shopping. I was gonna say shoplifting, and I thought myself.

875
00:58:16,980 --> 00:58:20,380
Speaker 2: And when I was brought to the police station anyway,

876
00:58:20,780 --> 00:58:24,980
Speaker 2: window shopping, and all of a sudden, I saw in

877
00:58:25,100 --> 00:58:27,540
Speaker 2: front of me, oh, at twenty feet in front of me,

878
00:58:27,980 --> 00:58:31,499
Speaker 2: a little Kenyan girl and her mom, and she sent

879
00:58:31,540 --> 00:58:36,700
Speaker 2: in English to her mother, Look mom, an American. And

880
00:58:36,780 --> 00:58:39,860
Speaker 2: I thought she was pointing at me, but I realized

881
00:58:39,980 --> 00:58:43,060
Speaker 2: by the angle of her hand that in fact, she

882
00:58:43,220 --> 00:58:46,300
Speaker 2: was pointing to somebody behind me. Well, I looked at

883
00:58:46,340 --> 00:58:49,300
Speaker 2: who was behind me, and all I could see was

884
00:58:49,380 --> 00:58:54,380
Speaker 2: a black woman, And all of a sudden, I realized

885
00:58:55,340 --> 00:58:58,740
Speaker 2: that the black woman that the girl was pointing at

886
00:58:59,380 --> 00:59:03,260
Speaker 2: was not perceived as an African, or as African American,

887
00:59:03,620 --> 00:59:08,060
Speaker 2: but as American. She could tell from her clothing or

888
00:59:08,140 --> 00:59:11,220
Speaker 2: whatever else she could tell, a handbag, whatever, that that

889
00:59:11,460 --> 00:59:15,100
Speaker 2: was an American Black. But to this Kenyan, and to

890
00:59:15,220 --> 00:59:21,380
Speaker 2: virtually every African, black Americans are not Africans. They are

891
00:59:21,540 --> 00:59:28,020
Speaker 2: Americans who are black who happened to be black. That

892
00:59:28,380 --> 00:59:32,140
Speaker 2: is true, even though there is a large strand of

893
00:59:32,300 --> 00:59:36,939
Speaker 2: angry alienated blacks in America, understandably but not I don't

894
00:59:36,980 --> 00:59:40,780
Speaker 2: believe properly who are so alienated from the society that

895
00:59:40,860 --> 00:59:43,140
Speaker 2: they say they've just happened to be Africans who are here,

896
00:59:43,740 --> 00:59:47,979
Speaker 2: but not to Africans. There is a book written by

897
00:59:48,220 --> 00:59:52,300
Speaker 2: Keith Richberg, one of the most important books printed in

898
00:59:52,340 --> 00:59:54,300
Speaker 2: the last decade, which is probably why you don't know

899
00:59:54,380 --> 00:59:58,580
Speaker 2: about it, because important books tend to be ignored, and

900
00:59:58,780 --> 01:00:02,820
Speaker 2: this book is critical reading. It is called Out of America.

901
01:00:03,860 --> 01:00:08,140
Speaker 2: Keith Richberg is a black American who is a major

902
01:00:08,300 --> 01:00:13,020
Speaker 2: foreign correspondent for the Washington Post. He was posted in Africa,

903
01:00:14,700 --> 01:00:17,580
Speaker 2: and he came back and wrote a book, and in

904
01:00:17,700 --> 01:00:22,380
Speaker 2: the book he basically states as follows, American. Of course,

905
01:00:22,460 --> 01:00:25,340
Speaker 2: my ancestors come from Africa. But it is so clear

906
01:00:25,380 --> 01:00:29,420
Speaker 2: that I am an American. My values, my culture, everything

907
01:00:29,500 --> 01:00:34,860
Speaker 2: that I hold dear is America. Not only that back

908
01:00:34,940 --> 01:00:40,420
Speaker 2: in Africa, Keith Richberg, Out of America, I'm a beneficiary

909
01:00:40,540 --> 01:00:47,420
Speaker 2: of European anti Semitism. If my great grandparents had it

910
01:00:47,500 --> 01:00:50,180
Speaker 2: good in Europe in the end of the nineteenth century,

911
01:00:50,260 --> 01:00:53,060
Speaker 2: early twentieth they'd have stayed there and they'd have ended

912
01:00:53,180 --> 01:00:57,540
Speaker 2: up in chimneys, cast by the Nazis, cremated by the Nazis.

913
01:00:57,980 --> 01:01:01,900
Speaker 2: But thanks to some anti Semitic pagrums, they came to America.

914
01:01:02,380 --> 01:01:04,620
Speaker 2: And here I am one of the luckiest people in

915
01:01:04,700 --> 01:01:07,020
Speaker 2: the world to actually be born and live in America.

916
01:01:08,020 --> 01:01:16,140
Speaker 2: That's what happens. That is life that you're not given.

917
01:01:17,140 --> 01:01:20,460
Speaker 2: That almost no student in America today is given a

918
01:01:20,500 --> 01:01:25,500
Speaker 2: sense of rootedness and identification as American is a tragedy

919
01:01:25,740 --> 01:01:28,980
Speaker 2: for them, because we all need a strong sense of

920
01:01:29,100 --> 01:01:33,260
Speaker 2: bonding an identity, and as a tragedy for America, what

921
01:01:33,420 --> 01:01:37,620
Speaker 2: are you given at colleges? The hyper sophisticated vision that

922
01:01:37,900 --> 01:01:41,860
Speaker 2: to be rooted as an American is not healthy. Rather,

923
01:01:42,060 --> 01:01:45,580
Speaker 2: one should be just a citizen of the world, and

924
01:01:45,740 --> 01:01:48,700
Speaker 2: one therefore looks to the United Nations for one's values

925
01:01:49,340 --> 01:01:52,780
Speaker 2: and not to the United States of America. That is

926
01:01:52,860 --> 01:01:55,980
Speaker 2: what your average professor in the liberal arts actually believes.

927
01:01:56,660 --> 01:02:00,340
Speaker 2: That the United Nations, where the genocidal regime of Soudan

928
01:02:01,140 --> 01:02:06,100
Speaker 2: sits on the Human Rights Council, where the totalitarian butcher

929
01:02:06,180 --> 01:02:09,820
Speaker 2: regime of Syria sits on the Security Council, that they

930
01:02:10,100 --> 01:02:14,220
Speaker 2: somehow have a keener sense of right and wrong than

931
01:02:14,300 --> 01:02:18,540
Speaker 2: to people from Texas. That is what is believed, and

932
01:02:18,700 --> 01:02:21,140
Speaker 2: that is a tragedy because it just ain't.

933
01:02:21,220 --> 01:02:21,260
Speaker 3: So.

934
01:02:22,740 --> 01:02:26,260
Speaker 2: There are things you learn at college, learn them, But

935
01:02:26,420 --> 01:02:29,100
Speaker 2: the biggest lessons of life are the ones that I

936
01:02:29,220 --> 01:02:45,459
Speaker 2: hinted at today. Thank you very much, Thank you, thank

937
01:02:45,500 --> 01:02:52,459
Speaker 2: you very much, thank you. All right. By the way,

938
01:02:53,140 --> 01:02:55,460
Speaker 2: just a note before I go to you, and I

939
01:02:55,500 --> 01:02:57,180
Speaker 2: guess we should should we put? Are we gonna have

940
01:02:57,340 --> 01:02:59,420
Speaker 2: questions and answers? I mean, I know we'll have answers.

941
01:02:59,420 --> 01:03:00,380
Speaker 2: Are we gonna have questions?

942
01:03:01,300 --> 01:03:01,419
Speaker 3: Oh?

943
01:03:01,460 --> 01:03:03,100
Speaker 2: There you are? Now there are people in the back

944
01:03:03,140 --> 01:03:06,460
Speaker 2: and so on. So are is there a microphone? Or

945
01:03:06,460 --> 01:03:08,540
Speaker 2: am I going to just repeat questions? Does anybody have

946
01:03:08,580 --> 01:03:11,900
Speaker 2: an answer? All right, I'll repeat them if I can

947
01:03:11,980 --> 01:03:16,460
Speaker 2: hear you quick word. By the way, I believe this

948
01:03:16,660 --> 01:03:18,860
Speaker 2: is a personal ad. I admit it. I'll get it

949
01:03:18,940 --> 01:03:20,860
Speaker 2: over with. It's the toughest. It's much easier for me

950
01:03:20,940 --> 01:03:24,900
Speaker 2: to push others' ideas than my own things. First of all,

951
01:03:25,220 --> 01:03:29,420
Speaker 2: I recorded today's talk. I record my talks, and I

952
01:03:29,460 --> 01:03:32,220
Speaker 2: will make this available along with many of my other tapes.

953
01:03:32,260 --> 01:03:34,540
Speaker 2: Some of the tapes are here from other such lectures

954
01:03:34,660 --> 01:03:38,100
Speaker 2: like this. Go to my website at Dennis Prager dot

955
01:03:38,180 --> 01:03:41,420
Speaker 2: com for any information about me or my writings or

956
01:03:41,460 --> 01:03:46,300
Speaker 2: my books. Second documentary that I just produced has just

957
01:03:46,420 --> 01:03:48,500
Speaker 2: come out in Israel. I think it's available here. I

958
01:03:48,540 --> 01:03:51,740
Speaker 2: didn't look outside called Israel in the time of terror.

959
01:03:52,220 --> 01:03:55,900
Speaker 2: With the shootings that have just happened in Virginia, we

960
01:03:56,060 --> 01:03:58,380
Speaker 2: are even sensing more what it is like to be

961
01:03:58,420 --> 01:04:01,220
Speaker 2: in ISRAELI for the last two years I went through

962
01:04:01,260 --> 01:04:04,700
Speaker 2: the streets of Israel in the spring, just asking them

963
01:04:04,780 --> 01:04:08,860
Speaker 2: what it is like. It is a gripping, gripping documentary

964
01:04:08,980 --> 01:04:11,460
Speaker 2: and it's out there. Okay, Now, I'll be happy to

965
01:04:11,500 --> 01:04:17,740
Speaker 2: take questions, comments and brief alternate speeches. Yes please, I'd

966
01:04:17,820 --> 01:04:18,500
Speaker 2: just like to see that.

967
01:04:20,620 --> 01:04:23,939
Speaker 4: Do you show as often as I can? And uh really,

968
01:04:23,980 --> 01:04:25,419
Speaker 4: I'm I'm just thrilled to speak to you.

969
01:04:25,540 --> 01:04:26,620
Speaker 2: Right, thank you.

970
01:04:28,260 --> 01:04:33,820
Speaker 4: I know that you're one who contemplates human suffering. And uh,

971
01:04:34,060 --> 01:04:38,580
Speaker 4: my question is about how religion figures ended. And I

972
01:04:38,860 --> 01:04:44,860
Speaker 4: asked or I think it is an exodus Moses uh

973
01:04:45,140 --> 01:04:48,460
Speaker 4: tells God that he's not a very good speaker, and

974
01:04:48,820 --> 01:04:53,700
Speaker 4: God says, I know I made you, and he implies

975
01:04:53,900 --> 01:04:57,900
Speaker 4: that he made blind people blind and deaf people death.

976
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Speaker 3: HM.

977
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Speaker 4: As one who contemplates human suffering so much, how D

978
01:05:05,980 --> 01:05:10,860
Speaker 4: and who believes in the Judeo Christian God, how does

979
01:05:10,940 --> 01:05:13,060
Speaker 4: it not makes you crazy?

980
01:05:14,140 --> 01:05:14,260
Speaker 2: Uh?

981
01:05:15,460 --> 01:05:19,060
Speaker 4: Knowing that there are people who are made to subborn

982
01:05:19,420 --> 01:05:22,860
Speaker 4: into suffering, I'm not I'm not just talking about issues

983
01:05:22,940 --> 01:05:27,020
Speaker 4: of human will. I mean they're born with some physical

984
01:05:27,100 --> 01:05:28,620
Speaker 4: defect that makes them suffer.

985
01:05:29,180 --> 01:05:32,740
Speaker 2: How do you reconcile that? D H. I'll repays a

986
01:05:32,780 --> 01:05:36,940
Speaker 2: great question to D. I assume that everybody heard it, right, okay,

987
01:05:37,860 --> 01:05:41,460
Speaker 2: very I'll I'll try to briefly summarize the question. And

988
01:05:41,620 --> 01:05:44,300
Speaker 2: this is up my alley cause I love theology. It's

989
01:05:44,460 --> 01:05:49,260
Speaker 2: my favorite subject. And the the question was about God

990
01:05:49,820 --> 01:05:53,099
Speaker 2: and human suffering, which is of course the greatest question

991
01:05:53,220 --> 01:05:55,260
Speaker 2: of all. That's an example, by the way, if you

992
01:05:55,380 --> 01:05:58,860
Speaker 2: folks don't take a course if it's even offered on

993
01:05:59,180 --> 01:06:03,059
Speaker 2: on it's called theodicy reconciling the existence of a good

994
01:06:03,140 --> 01:06:05,980
Speaker 2: God with all the injustice in the world. You haven't

995
01:06:06,100 --> 01:06:09,540
Speaker 2: covered the most important question. I mean, I know that, uh,

996
01:06:09,820 --> 01:06:13,979
Speaker 2: you know, you know, studying Uh, I don't know. Uh.

997
01:06:14,540 --> 01:06:18,060
Speaker 2: Lesbian poetry in Belgium may be important and I and

998
01:06:18,140 --> 01:06:20,300
Speaker 2: I don't mean it as a mockery of lesbians at all.

999
01:06:20,460 --> 01:06:23,100
Speaker 2: But that's the sort of course that is now given,

1000
01:06:24,100 --> 01:06:28,100
Speaker 2: which is fine, but it's a little obscure compared to

1001
01:06:28,660 --> 01:06:33,380
Speaker 2: reconciling God with human suffering. That's a rather immense issue.

1002
01:06:33,500 --> 01:06:37,180
Speaker 2: The immense issues need to be covered. Anyway, Moses is

1003
01:06:37,260 --> 01:06:39,540
Speaker 2: before God, and if you don't, if you went to

1004
01:06:39,660 --> 01:06:43,020
Speaker 2: a typical school, Moses is a figure in the Hebrew Bible,

1005
01:06:43,100 --> 01:06:46,580
Speaker 2: the Old Testament, who is called by God to take

1006
01:06:46,620 --> 01:06:50,380
Speaker 2: the Israelites, an old name for Jews out of Egypt.

1007
01:06:50,500 --> 01:06:55,820
Speaker 2: Egypt is a country in northeastern Africa. Just getting carried

1008
01:06:55,860 --> 01:07:02,620
Speaker 2: away with myself. Don't take that stuff seriously. Anyway, God

1009
01:07:02,740 --> 01:07:06,060
Speaker 2: speaks to Moses, and Moses doesn't want the role to

1010
01:07:06,140 --> 01:07:08,340
Speaker 2: go back to Egypt and tell Pharaoh to let the

1011
01:07:08,420 --> 01:07:11,900
Speaker 2: Jews go, let the Israelites go, and he says, and

1012
01:07:11,980 --> 01:07:15,380
Speaker 2: he gives five different reasons God shouldn't choose him. He

1013
01:07:15,620 --> 01:07:18,380
Speaker 2: argues the whole time. One of his arguments is, hey,

1014
01:07:18,860 --> 01:07:21,539
Speaker 2: I don't even speak well that I know I made

1015
01:07:21,620 --> 01:07:26,060
Speaker 2: you right. So the question is how do you reconcile

1016
01:07:26,220 --> 01:07:29,100
Speaker 2: this belief in God with and all the suffering. Does

1017
01:07:29,140 --> 01:07:32,620
Speaker 2: God make people blind? Does God make people deformed? Does

1018
01:07:32,700 --> 01:07:34,980
Speaker 2: God give children cancer? I mean, are this is? This

1019
01:07:35,140 --> 01:07:43,740
Speaker 2: is fair? To summarize you this way? Okay. The notion

1020
01:07:44,100 --> 01:07:49,740
Speaker 2: that if you are sick now that God has made

1021
01:07:49,820 --> 01:07:54,140
Speaker 2: you that way is not what I learned from that verse.

1022
01:07:55,460 --> 01:07:58,460
Speaker 2: God is saying, I know I made you. You're making

1023
01:07:58,620 --> 01:08:03,660
Speaker 2: an argument that is not relevant to your ability to

1024
01:08:04,180 --> 01:08:08,220
Speaker 2: do your job. Also, Moses's speech impediment, which we don't

1025
01:08:08,260 --> 01:08:10,820
Speaker 2: know what it is, we just know he's speech impediment

1026
01:08:12,300 --> 01:08:16,300
Speaker 2: was very important because it enabled his brother Aaron to

1027
01:08:16,420 --> 01:08:19,740
Speaker 2: work with him, and it probably was important for another reason.

1028
01:08:19,980 --> 01:08:23,460
Speaker 2: I think there's a great lesson here that eloquence does

1029
01:08:23,540 --> 01:08:28,660
Speaker 2: not equal leadership, which is very important. We don't have

1030
01:08:28,820 --> 01:08:32,260
Speaker 2: the most eloquent president. Now, we did have the most

1031
01:08:32,300 --> 01:08:36,100
Speaker 2: eloquent president for eight years. And no, no, no, no, no,

1032
01:08:36,140 --> 01:08:38,179
Speaker 2: no no no. I just want to say. Some people

1033
01:08:38,260 --> 01:08:40,700
Speaker 2: will say that one is a better leader than the other. Fine,

1034
01:08:41,220 --> 01:08:43,299
Speaker 2: but I'm just saying I think there are great lessons

1035
01:08:43,380 --> 01:08:46,179
Speaker 2: to be learned that the greatest leader in the Bible,

1036
01:08:46,500 --> 01:08:48,660
Speaker 2: at least in the Hebrew Bible, in the Old Testament,

1037
01:08:49,340 --> 01:08:52,979
Speaker 2: is in fact someone who can't speak well, that there

1038
01:08:53,019 --> 01:08:56,019
Speaker 2: are lessons to be learned there. But the lesson to

1039
01:08:56,099 --> 01:08:58,380
Speaker 2: be learned is not that God wants children to have

1040
01:08:58,540 --> 01:09:03,620
Speaker 2: cancer or wants people to be blind. Maybe it is

1041
01:09:03,939 --> 01:09:06,620
Speaker 2: there are those who believe that whatever we have God wills.

1042
01:09:07,180 --> 01:09:10,219
Speaker 2: That's not my theology, although I can't say it's wrong

1043
01:09:11,019 --> 01:09:14,179
Speaker 2: in the final analysis without giving you another entire lecture.

1044
01:09:14,500 --> 01:09:16,539
Speaker 2: And I do have a lecture on God and suffering.

1045
01:09:17,300 --> 01:09:19,860
Speaker 2: But without giving that lecture, I can tell you, and

1046
01:09:19,939 --> 01:09:23,700
Speaker 2: this will not fall satisfy you, that there are some

1047
01:09:23,979 --> 01:09:27,380
Speaker 2: that that is the one arena where we cannot We

1048
01:09:27,500 --> 01:09:30,660
Speaker 2: don't have a perfect answer why God has made a

1049
01:09:30,740 --> 01:09:35,820
Speaker 2: world wherein some people are born with birth deformities. I

1050
01:09:35,939 --> 01:09:39,500
Speaker 2: cannot tell you. I do not know. I can tell

1051
01:09:39,540 --> 01:09:43,500
Speaker 2: you that there is a great counter response, though that

1052
01:09:43,660 --> 01:09:46,180
Speaker 2: is not mine, is of a rabbi called Milton Steinberg,

1053
01:09:46,780 --> 01:09:49,299
Speaker 2: who said, as follows, and I won't develop this because

1054
01:09:49,420 --> 01:09:54,900
Speaker 2: I want to take other questions. He said, Look, the

1055
01:09:55,059 --> 01:09:59,740
Speaker 2: believer in God has to account for one thing, unjust suffering.

1056
01:10:01,460 --> 01:10:05,820
Speaker 2: The atheist has to account for the existence of everything else.

1057
01:10:08,260 --> 01:10:10,820
Speaker 2: That to me is the most persuasive one sentence, two

1058
01:10:10,900 --> 01:10:14,219
Speaker 2: sentence answer I've ever heard of the issue, So yes,

1059
01:10:14,340 --> 01:10:17,660
Speaker 2: I have a problem visa VI good with the unjust

1060
01:10:17,740 --> 01:10:22,860
Speaker 2: suffering of individuals, but the existence of everything else seems

1061
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Speaker 2: to argue to me that there is a god. Also,

1062
01:10:27,140 --> 01:10:30,299
Speaker 2: you will notice people far more likely to ask why

1063
01:10:30,460 --> 01:10:36,339
Speaker 2: me when they're cursed than why me when they're blessed? Okay,

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01:10:36,700 --> 01:10:41,939
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you very much. Yes, please, I'm gonna

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01:10:41,939 --> 01:10:44,620
Speaker 2: try to I will take older folks, but I'm gonna

1066
01:10:44,620 --> 01:10:46,380
Speaker 2: try to take students if I see them, So don't

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01:10:46,380 --> 01:10:49,420
Speaker 2: be insulted if I a voyage you. Yes, when you're

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01:10:49,460 --> 01:11:01,059
Speaker 2: speaking about school parents, graduating or time invidual class? Was

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01:11:01,340 --> 01:11:03,660
Speaker 2: was I when I was talking about the lack of

1070
01:11:03,740 --> 01:11:09,339
Speaker 2: wat in schools? I'm sorry, you mean the lack of wisdom?

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01:11:09,860 --> 01:11:12,099
Speaker 2: You mean the lack of wisdom? Okay? When I was

1072
01:11:12,140 --> 01:11:13,939
Speaker 2: talking about the lack of wisdom at school? Was I

1073
01:11:14,019 --> 01:11:23,259
Speaker 2: talking more about the the requirements talking about to say? Oh, okay?

1074
01:11:23,420 --> 01:11:26,059
Speaker 2: Was I talking more about the actual requirements? And feel

1075
01:11:26,099 --> 01:11:27,979
Speaker 2: free to respond you don't have I don't have to

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01:11:28,059 --> 01:11:32,339
Speaker 2: have the last word. But the actual requirement required courses

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01:11:32,780 --> 01:11:36,580
Speaker 2: or in general, the absence of wisdom really both, certainly,

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01:11:36,660 --> 01:11:43,900
Speaker 2: the absence of required courses. I'll never forget who is

1079
01:11:43,939 --> 01:11:46,660
Speaker 2: the famous actress some of you, I'm sure will know

1080
01:11:46,700 --> 01:11:54,660
Speaker 2: who graduated from Princeton. Was it Jodie Foster? Yeah, I

1081
01:11:54,700 --> 01:11:56,740
Speaker 2: guess so, Yeah, I guess that was her then. Yeah.

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01:11:57,740 --> 01:11:59,340
Speaker 2: In any event, there was an article in the New

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01:11:59,420 --> 01:12:03,300
Speaker 2: York Times then because it became public knowledge what all

1084
01:12:03,380 --> 01:12:07,179
Speaker 2: her courses were. And somebody wrote an article that said,

1085
01:12:07,660 --> 01:12:09,620
Speaker 2: this is what she learned at Princeton. And you see,

1086
01:12:09,660 --> 01:12:13,059
Speaker 2: for example, all these courses on movies, and I thought,

1087
01:12:13,140 --> 01:12:15,180
Speaker 2: my god, compared to when I went to college, this

1088
01:12:15,300 --> 01:12:17,740
Speaker 2: sounds like a vacation. I would love to have seen

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01:12:17,820 --> 01:12:21,620
Speaker 2: movies for four credits, or actually forty credits, or you know,

1090
01:12:21,780 --> 01:12:24,500
Speaker 2: bowling for three credits. I mean, this was amazing to me.

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01:12:25,099 --> 01:12:27,979
Speaker 2: When I went to college, I had to study, I

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01:12:28,059 --> 01:12:30,620
Speaker 2: had to study three semesters of sciences, I had to

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01:12:30,660 --> 01:12:33,740
Speaker 2: study a foreign language, had to sixty of one hundred

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01:12:33,740 --> 01:12:37,620
Speaker 2: and twenty credits will required courses because the college believed

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01:12:37,780 --> 01:12:40,220
Speaker 2: that they knew what I should have to know to

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01:12:40,300 --> 01:12:45,019
Speaker 2: be an educated citizen. However, right after I graduated, with

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01:12:45,099 --> 01:12:49,780
Speaker 2: the sixties generations radical Revolution, the belief that professors knew

1098
01:12:49,820 --> 01:12:54,019
Speaker 2: better than students what students should know died, which always

1099
01:12:54,059 --> 01:12:57,139
Speaker 2: struck me as a statement of how little wisdom they

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01:12:57,180 --> 01:13:00,740
Speaker 2: believe they have. If an adult does not believe that

1101
01:13:00,860 --> 01:13:04,340
Speaker 2: he or she knows better than an eighteen year old

1102
01:13:04,460 --> 01:13:07,259
Speaker 2: what an eighteen year old should study, what the hell

1103
01:13:07,380 --> 01:13:10,580
Speaker 2: is the adult doing as a teacher. It is a

1104
01:13:10,660 --> 01:13:14,300
Speaker 2: statement of such incompetence. It is so self revealing that

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01:13:14,420 --> 01:13:17,939
Speaker 2: they know they have no wisdom. I am fifty, but

1106
01:13:18,099 --> 01:13:20,900
Speaker 2: I don't have a clue what I've learned in thirty

1107
01:13:20,979 --> 01:13:24,059
Speaker 2: years about what you should know at twenty. That is

1108
01:13:24,140 --> 01:13:26,780
Speaker 2: what schools are saying when they don't have required courses,

1109
01:13:27,540 --> 01:13:30,540
Speaker 2: that we learned nothing in all of our years as

1110
01:13:30,580 --> 01:13:33,500
Speaker 2: adults about what it is that an informed citizen should know.

1111
01:13:34,099 --> 01:13:37,300
Speaker 2: So the absence of required courses is an example of

1112
01:13:37,380 --> 01:13:40,219
Speaker 2: the absence of wisdom which pervades the other courses. Did

1113
01:13:40,260 --> 01:13:49,139
Speaker 2: you want to react or is that answer you? Yes?

1114
01:13:49,220 --> 01:13:52,179
Speaker 2: Of course there should be more requirements. My brother went

1115
01:13:52,220 --> 01:13:55,540
Speaker 2: to Columbia undergrad He had this famous, famous course at

1116
01:13:55,580 --> 01:14:00,179
Speaker 2: Colombia learning West. It was called Western CIV. But Jesse

1117
01:14:00,380 --> 01:14:04,420
Speaker 2: Jackson and other major thinkers went to Stanford and they

1118
01:14:04,620 --> 01:14:07,300
Speaker 2: and they chanted, hey, hey, ho ho Western Civ. Has

1119
01:14:07,380 --> 01:14:11,099
Speaker 2: got to go that offering students an acquired course in

1120
01:14:11,180 --> 01:14:16,740
Speaker 2: Western civilization is sexist, racist, and eurocentric. And so now

1121
01:14:16,820 --> 01:14:19,900
Speaker 2: you don't know what civilization you're a part of. And

1122
01:14:20,059 --> 01:14:22,500
Speaker 2: so you know, who's to say Beethoven is any better

1123
01:14:23,059 --> 01:14:27,059
Speaker 2: than anybody who made music in Asia or Africa or

1124
01:14:27,180 --> 01:14:31,459
Speaker 2: Latin America. I am perfectly prepared to say that Germans

1125
01:14:31,580 --> 01:14:35,019
Speaker 2: wrote the best music in human history, okay, and the

1126
01:14:35,140 --> 01:14:38,500
Speaker 2: Germans are the people who unleash the Holocaust. I am

1127
01:14:38,540 --> 01:14:42,820
Speaker 2: perfectly prepared to say something because it's true. Would I

1128
01:14:42,939 --> 01:14:47,219
Speaker 2: have preferred that the best music were written by Jewish

1129
01:14:47,260 --> 01:14:50,580
Speaker 2: Americans in Brooklyn so I could have some ethnic pride?

1130
01:14:50,939 --> 01:14:53,780
Speaker 2: I mean, the idea to me is so stupid that

1131
01:14:54,220 --> 01:14:57,900
Speaker 2: I can't even I can't even react. The best music

1132
01:14:57,979 --> 01:15:02,380
Speaker 2: happens to have been overwhelmingly, there are exceptions, overwhelmingly Austrians

1133
01:15:02,420 --> 01:15:06,180
Speaker 2: and Germans. That's the way it is. What am I

1134
01:15:06,220 --> 01:15:07,939
Speaker 2: going to do about it? So but if I have

1135
01:15:08,019 --> 01:15:10,580
Speaker 2: a quota on the number of Germans whose music I

1136
01:15:10,620 --> 01:15:13,220
Speaker 2: can hear because they were white Europeans, well then I

1137
01:15:13,340 --> 01:15:16,580
Speaker 2: have to drop either Bach or Beethoven or Heiden or

1138
01:15:16,700 --> 01:15:20,540
Speaker 2: Handle or Mozart. Right, Well, they happen to be the best,

1139
01:15:20,939 --> 01:15:24,700
Speaker 2: with great respect to Tchaikovsky, uh and uh and Debut

1140
01:15:24,780 --> 01:15:27,460
Speaker 2: c and the whole gang. But that's but that's the

1141
01:15:27,500 --> 01:15:29,620
Speaker 2: way it is. But that's not what is taught today.

1142
01:15:29,660 --> 01:15:37,019
Speaker 2: There's no best. If if you like, then that's your taste.

1143
01:15:37,220 --> 01:15:40,340
Speaker 2: That I happen to like bach Cantata's is purely subjective.

1144
01:15:40,660 --> 01:15:45,059
Speaker 2: This is just as good. That is what is taught

1145
01:15:45,220 --> 01:15:49,580
Speaker 2: at college. That's that's not a good thing. And by

1146
01:15:49,580 --> 01:15:52,059
Speaker 2: the way, what I just did is better than much

1147
01:15:52,099 --> 01:16:00,979
Speaker 2: of the music written in the twentieth century. Yes, a second,

1148
01:16:01,059 --> 01:16:02,620
Speaker 2: what I'm looking for students looking for the one second,

1149
01:16:02,660 --> 01:16:06,500
Speaker 2: I'll take any students, any students, okay, going once, going twice. Okay,

1150
01:16:06,580 --> 01:16:08,860
Speaker 2: you might be a student, but I'm just guessing that

1151
01:16:08,939 --> 01:16:13,340
Speaker 2: you're not. Okay, stand stand so at least some could

1152
01:16:13,340 --> 01:16:48,019
Speaker 2: hear you. Thank you to know what curious. I'll be

1153
01:16:48,059 --> 01:16:50,340
Speaker 2: happy to talk about my son in college. The question

1154
01:16:50,580 --> 01:16:52,780
Speaker 2: was would I share about what has happened in my

1155
01:16:52,860 --> 01:16:55,580
Speaker 2: own family? Do I pay for an elite college? Wh

1156
01:16:55,820 --> 01:16:57,620
Speaker 2: where does he go? I don't say the exact name,

1157
01:16:57,700 --> 01:17:00,500
Speaker 2: only for his privacy reasons. That's all. Uh, that's the

1158
01:17:00,540 --> 01:17:03,180
Speaker 2: only reason it is not a prestige, and it's not

1159
01:17:03,500 --> 01:17:05,700
Speaker 2: a non prestige. It's a it's a M, a middle

1160
01:17:05,820 --> 01:17:09,299
Speaker 2: level name. So if somebody heard it, they wouldn't go whoa.

1161
01:17:09,820 --> 01:17:11,380
Speaker 2: And on the other hand, they wouldn't go boy, he

1162
01:17:11,460 --> 01:17:13,460
Speaker 2: must be a dummy. Okay, so there is none of that.

1163
01:17:13,620 --> 01:17:17,860
Speaker 2: Ali uh, I'll I have a long answer to this.

1164
01:17:17,939 --> 01:17:20,420
Speaker 2: I'll try to make it shorter. And how did we

1165
01:17:20,500 --> 01:17:24,820
Speaker 2: PAIRHM and so on? Okay? First of all, in no

1166
01:17:25,019 --> 01:17:28,380
Speaker 2: order of importance, we did not raise any of our

1167
01:17:28,500 --> 01:17:32,979
Speaker 2: children to believe that grades were all important. We are

1168
01:17:33,180 --> 01:17:39,460
Speaker 2: a fluky family. We do not believe. I actually, first

1169
01:17:39,460 --> 01:17:41,059
Speaker 2: of all, I'm a fluke in that what I told

1170
01:17:41,099 --> 01:17:44,620
Speaker 2: you today, I actually believe. I mean I allowed you

1171
01:17:44,700 --> 01:17:47,500
Speaker 2: to understand. What I told you is about how I

1172
01:17:47,580 --> 01:17:54,140
Speaker 2: try to live. We never pressured our kids for scholastic excellence.

1173
01:17:54,540 --> 01:18:00,460
Speaker 2: Never where they went to college was of awesome non

1174
01:18:00,580 --> 01:18:05,540
Speaker 2: significance in our family. We did not go crazy on SATs.

1175
01:18:05,660 --> 01:18:08,700
Speaker 2: I'm not even sure I recall what he had. If

1176
01:18:08,740 --> 01:18:11,860
Speaker 2: he wanted to do well, he did well. I cared

1177
01:18:12,059 --> 01:18:16,139
Speaker 2: much more on preparing him for life to I believe

1178
01:18:16,260 --> 01:18:19,220
Speaker 2: that if you develop common sense, a good sense of

1179
01:18:19,340 --> 01:18:23,979
Speaker 2: self and strong character and very strong roots which he

1180
01:18:24,140 --> 01:18:26,860
Speaker 2: has as an American and as a Jew. That will

1181
01:18:27,220 --> 01:18:29,820
Speaker 2: he will do well in life no matter where he goes.

1182
01:18:30,700 --> 01:18:32,939
Speaker 2: I believe it will turn out that way. I'm very

1183
01:18:33,019 --> 01:18:35,300
Speaker 2: optimistic about him. But he did not do great in

1184
01:18:35,460 --> 01:18:39,300
Speaker 2: high school. Neither did I. As I'll just tell you,

1185
01:18:39,939 --> 01:18:42,660
Speaker 2: and I trust that your math is sophisticated enough to

1186
01:18:42,740 --> 01:18:45,420
Speaker 2: get the impact of this. I graduated in the top

1187
01:18:45,500 --> 01:18:52,220
Speaker 2: eighty percent of my class, that's the nice way of

1188
01:18:52,300 --> 01:18:56,540
Speaker 2: putting that. I was in the bottom twenty percent. And

1189
01:18:57,260 --> 01:19:01,540
Speaker 2: the reason was because I never did homework. I didn't. Instead,

1190
01:19:03,099 --> 01:19:07,340
Speaker 2: I learned music. I learned everything school didn't teach. I

1191
01:19:07,460 --> 01:19:10,179
Speaker 2: learned music. I read books, I read magazines, I went

1192
01:19:10,220 --> 01:19:13,299
Speaker 2: to museums, I learned. I taught myself how to read

1193
01:19:13,540 --> 01:19:18,460
Speaker 2: symphonic scores. I now conduct every year. I conduct an

1194
01:19:18,540 --> 01:19:21,860
Speaker 2: orchestra in southern California on the basis of self teaching

1195
01:19:21,939 --> 01:19:24,660
Speaker 2: score reading that I did in high school. When I

1196
01:19:24,660 --> 01:19:26,219
Speaker 2: didn't do homework, I would go to the New York

1197
01:19:26,220 --> 01:19:29,099
Speaker 2: Philharmonic Library. Now I'm a nut. I mean, most kids

1198
01:19:29,180 --> 01:19:31,139
Speaker 2: don't do this. When they don't do homework, they watch TV.

1199
01:19:31,820 --> 01:19:33,700
Speaker 2: So I always tell parents I don't care if a

1200
01:19:33,780 --> 01:19:37,820
Speaker 2: kid does homework, providing they're doing something good when they're

1201
01:19:37,860 --> 01:19:41,500
Speaker 2: not doing homework. If they're not doing homework and watching television,

1202
01:19:41,580 --> 01:19:44,219
Speaker 2: they better do homework. But if they're not doing homework

1203
01:19:44,260 --> 01:19:46,780
Speaker 2: and they're reading books, I much prefer that they read

1204
01:19:46,820 --> 01:19:51,180
Speaker 2: books anyway. So he's going to a good but not

1205
01:19:52,780 --> 01:19:56,460
Speaker 2: great college. It's very expensive. The reason that we're willing

1206
01:19:56,580 --> 01:20:00,660
Speaker 2: to do this is because he wanted it. We are

1207
01:20:00,740 --> 01:20:02,820
Speaker 2: blessed to be able to afford it. If we could

1208
01:20:02,860 --> 01:20:04,580
Speaker 2: not afford it, I would not go into hock to

1209
01:20:04,660 --> 01:20:07,019
Speaker 2: do it. As many parents do. They mortgage their homes,

1210
01:20:07,220 --> 01:20:09,660
Speaker 2: get a second mortgage to send their kids to a

1211
01:20:09,700 --> 01:20:11,580
Speaker 2: college when there's a free one down the road. I

1212
01:20:11,620 --> 01:20:16,500
Speaker 2: do not agree with that. But we're blessed, and so

1213
01:20:17,019 --> 01:20:19,820
Speaker 2: he's going to this college. He's going on the East Coast.

1214
01:20:19,860 --> 01:20:21,460
Speaker 2: He wanted to be. He wanted to see what the

1215
01:20:21,500 --> 01:20:23,820
Speaker 2: East Coast is life. Having been born and raised in

1216
01:20:23,900 --> 01:20:27,259
Speaker 2: Los Angeles. It's fine by me. I think that one

1217
01:20:27,340 --> 01:20:32,260
Speaker 2: winter there and he will yearn for southern California, or

1218
01:20:32,260 --> 01:20:38,979
Speaker 2: at least that's my hope. And here was the most important,

1219
01:20:39,019 --> 01:20:44,540
Speaker 2: the single most important factor. Last year he spent he

1220
01:20:44,660 --> 01:20:47,099
Speaker 2: did not graduate high school and go to college immediately.

1221
01:20:47,620 --> 01:20:51,420
Speaker 2: He deferred his admission for one year and spent last

1222
01:20:51,500 --> 01:20:55,580
Speaker 2: year studying at a religious school in Israel. That was

1223
01:20:55,660 --> 01:20:58,300
Speaker 2: the greatest year of his life. First, he was there

1224
01:20:58,380 --> 01:21:01,900
Speaker 2: during almost all of the terror, which was not easy

1225
01:21:01,979 --> 01:21:04,379
Speaker 2: for us. But that's a separate issue because I believe

1226
01:21:04,460 --> 01:21:07,420
Speaker 2: that in life you do what is right and you

1227
01:21:07,580 --> 01:21:10,979
Speaker 2: take risks for that, and we were not prepared. If

1228
01:21:11,019 --> 01:21:12,939
Speaker 2: he didn't want to go, I would never have forced him.

1229
01:21:13,260 --> 01:21:15,019
Speaker 2: In fact, I set to him in a very dramatic

1230
01:21:16,140 --> 01:21:20,700
Speaker 2: father son talk. I said, David, I cannot be the

1231
01:21:20,780 --> 01:21:23,939
Speaker 2: reason you go now. I may have been the reason

1232
01:21:24,019 --> 01:21:28,300
Speaker 2: that you went a year ago, that you would go

1233
01:21:28,420 --> 01:21:30,939
Speaker 2: a year ago, but with all the terror there, I

1234
01:21:31,019 --> 01:21:33,660
Speaker 2: cannot have it on my conscience that you're going because

1235
01:21:33,700 --> 01:21:36,460
Speaker 2: of me. If something God forbid happens to you, So

1236
01:21:36,780 --> 01:21:39,300
Speaker 2: it is now your decision. I will in no way

1237
01:21:39,380 --> 01:21:42,379
Speaker 2: be angry or anything if you decide immediately go to college.

1238
01:21:42,820 --> 01:21:46,380
Speaker 2: He chose to go. Thank God, nothing happened to him

1239
01:21:46,420 --> 01:21:48,939
Speaker 2: though he he heard. He actually heard because he was

1240
01:21:48,939 --> 01:21:54,740
Speaker 2: studying in Jerusalem to terror bombings, which is pretty intense

1241
01:21:55,180 --> 01:21:58,780
Speaker 2: for an eighteen year old to experience after your greatest

1242
01:21:58,860 --> 01:22:01,700
Speaker 2: problem is will the Dodgers win the Pennant? I mean,

1243
01:22:01,820 --> 01:22:04,540
Speaker 2: let's be honest, what are the awesome problems buying large

1244
01:22:04,580 --> 01:22:08,059
Speaker 2: for a Southern California youth through unless the family is

1245
01:22:08,380 --> 01:22:13,219
Speaker 2: in terrible trouble or something. So this was a powerful year.

1246
01:22:13,620 --> 01:22:16,620
Speaker 2: It got him in touch with God, It got him

1247
01:22:16,660 --> 01:22:18,939
Speaker 2: in touch with religion, got him in touch with the

1248
01:22:18,979 --> 01:22:20,860
Speaker 2: fact that there really is evil in the world. Old

1249
01:22:20,900 --> 01:22:23,620
Speaker 2: all the things that I most care about, I would

1250
01:22:23,860 --> 01:22:28,219
Speaker 2: strongly and I did. I say, taking a year off

1251
01:22:28,220 --> 01:22:32,019
Speaker 2: from high school before college to see the world is

1252
01:22:32,099 --> 01:22:34,660
Speaker 2: so important. Whatever you do. He did that that's not

1253
01:22:34,780 --> 01:22:37,460
Speaker 2: the only thing you can do. I certainly think a

1254
01:22:37,540 --> 01:22:42,500
Speaker 2: religious experience. I learned this partially in Thailand. In Thailand,

1255
01:22:42,939 --> 01:22:46,299
Speaker 2: which is a Buddhist country, it's very interesting, at least

1256
01:22:46,300 --> 01:22:48,179
Speaker 2: when I was there. I can't speak for now. When

1257
01:22:48,220 --> 01:22:51,099
Speaker 2: I was there again, this is about twenty years ago.

1258
01:22:52,019 --> 01:22:54,820
Speaker 2: I was there a few times and I saw young

1259
01:22:54,939 --> 01:23:00,339
Speaker 2: men I would say they were seventeen years old walking

1260
01:23:00,460 --> 01:23:04,500
Speaker 2: around in the beautiful orange robes of a Buddhist monk.

1261
01:23:05,460 --> 01:23:08,820
Speaker 2: And I asked one of these kids, basically kids, young

1262
01:23:08,900 --> 01:23:14,580
Speaker 2: boy or teenage boys walking around like monks. He said, well,

1263
01:23:15,260 --> 01:23:18,099
Speaker 2: for a year or two, I don't remember exactly. A

1264
01:23:18,180 --> 01:23:22,099
Speaker 2: lot of Thai young men off from school and from

1265
01:23:22,140 --> 01:23:24,540
Speaker 2: anything else they're doing to serve a year as a

1266
01:23:24,580 --> 01:23:28,700
Speaker 2: Buddhist monk, live like a monk would, and that prepares

1267
01:23:28,780 --> 01:23:32,139
Speaker 2: them for life. I think that's magnificent. I think what

1268
01:23:32,300 --> 01:23:36,580
Speaker 2: Mormons do when they send their youths on missions. I

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Speaker 2: have studied the Mormon missions. A fair amouth is a

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Speaker 2: very fascinating thing. It's a brilliant concept. Brilliant. I'll tell

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Speaker 2: you why it's brilliant. Almost none of the Mormon missionaries

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Speaker 2: and they're like eighteen nineteen years old. Think of this.

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Speaker 2: You're eighteen nineteen. You grew up in Fargo, North Dakota,

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Speaker 2: and now you're sent to Kazakhstan to make Mormon converts. Okay,

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01:24:00,180 --> 01:24:05,099
Speaker 2: you learn Kazakh or Russian and you become fluent in fact,

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01:24:05,220 --> 01:24:07,460
Speaker 2: do you know why so many international businesses go to

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01:24:07,540 --> 01:24:10,059
Speaker 2: Salt Lake City? Because so many Mormons are fluent in

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01:24:10,140 --> 01:24:13,540
Speaker 2: foreign languages because they have to be to be missionaries.

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01:24:14,540 --> 01:24:18,660
Speaker 2: And so I always ask people who went on missions, So,

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Speaker 2: how many converts did you make in your two years

1281
01:24:20,820 --> 01:24:25,460
Speaker 2: in Uruguay? Zero. I don't think I have met a

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01:24:25,540 --> 01:24:29,300
Speaker 2: missionary who made more than two converts. So why does

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01:24:29,340 --> 01:24:32,740
Speaker 2: the church do it. They do it for the kids

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01:24:33,900 --> 01:24:38,860
Speaker 2: to have them grow up into responsible Mormons. We have

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Speaker 2: no We have no way of making boys into men

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01:24:46,380 --> 01:24:50,700
Speaker 2: in American life. There is none. There is no bar

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01:24:50,820 --> 01:24:54,380
Speaker 2: Mitzvah in most of American life, and even for most

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01:24:54,420 --> 01:24:56,620
Speaker 2: Jews that bar mitzv was just a party. It's meaningless.

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01:24:57,500 --> 01:25:02,380
Speaker 2: But we have no missionaries like this. There is a way.

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01:25:02,580 --> 01:25:06,259
Speaker 2: The armed forces makes boys into men. It's a very powerful,

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01:25:06,380 --> 01:25:08,979
Speaker 2: powerful thing. That's why I'm always for a big military budget,

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01:25:09,019 --> 01:25:12,059
Speaker 2: even if we're at peace, because of the excellent effect

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01:25:12,099 --> 01:25:17,099
Speaker 2: that has on so many young Americans, especially males. Boys

1294
01:25:17,340 --> 01:25:23,179
Speaker 2: don't become men by getting older. Boys just become older

1295
01:25:23,340 --> 01:25:27,420
Speaker 2: boys when they get older. Something must make them into

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01:25:27,500 --> 01:25:31,660
Speaker 2: a man. Marriage makes boys into men. The army makes

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01:25:31,700 --> 01:25:35,620
Speaker 2: boys into men. A missionary for a Mormon makes a

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01:25:35,660 --> 01:25:39,900
Speaker 2: boy into a man, something that makes him think outside

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Speaker 2: of himself. My boy came back a man after his

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01:25:43,740 --> 01:25:47,180
Speaker 2: year in Israel, where he didn't know who would be

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01:25:47,260 --> 01:25:49,379
Speaker 2: blown up the next day, and saw a real evil

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01:25:49,420 --> 01:25:53,580
Speaker 2: in life, and the Lakers became he'd sold me, he said, Dennis, Dennis,

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01:25:53,620 --> 01:25:56,260
Speaker 2: he calls me Dad. That's pretty funny. He didn't say,

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01:25:56,340 --> 01:25:59,500
Speaker 2: Dennis said Dad, I gotta tell you. Because we would

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01:25:59,500 --> 01:26:01,820
Speaker 2: talk on the phone. It was phenomenal. It was just fascinating,

1306
01:26:01,900 --> 01:26:04,900
Speaker 2: say Dad, it's so amazing. The most important thing to

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01:26:04,979 --> 01:26:07,740
Speaker 2: me with the Lakers when I left. Now they're not

1308
01:26:07,860 --> 01:26:12,380
Speaker 2: that important. And he still followed the finals from Israel on.

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01:26:12,740 --> 01:26:15,900
Speaker 2: You know that some godly hour, god forsaken hour, he

1310
01:26:15,900 --> 01:26:17,820
Speaker 2: would wake up in the morning to watch the Lakers

1311
01:26:17,860 --> 01:26:21,820
Speaker 2: in the finals. But somehow he knew something was far

1312
01:26:21,979 --> 01:26:25,620
Speaker 2: more important than the Lakers, massive issues of right and wrong,

1313
01:26:25,700 --> 01:26:28,979
Speaker 2: whether there is a God who governs the universe. That's

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01:26:29,019 --> 01:26:31,259
Speaker 2: what people need, and you don't get that at college.

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01:26:32,059 --> 01:26:34,580
Speaker 2: I don't blame college for that. You just don't get it.

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01:26:35,460 --> 01:26:38,580
Speaker 2: And so girls need it, boys need it. And so

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01:26:38,740 --> 01:26:41,139
Speaker 2: it's a long answer to how he was prepared and

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01:26:41,180 --> 01:26:43,580
Speaker 2: why I didn't care where he went because I knew

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01:26:43,620 --> 01:26:47,900
Speaker 2: he was prepared, and you know, and he finds it's fascinating.

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01:26:47,979 --> 01:26:50,540
Speaker 2: Now he's immersed in a secular world after being immersed

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01:26:50,580 --> 01:26:54,340
Speaker 2: in a religious world, and he realizes, you know, we

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01:26:54,460 --> 01:26:57,300
Speaker 2: talk very often where we're blessed with a beautiful relationship,

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01:26:57,340 --> 01:27:01,660
Speaker 2: and it is a blessing. We're both lucky. And you know,

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01:27:01,780 --> 01:27:03,780
Speaker 2: he just says, you know, I'm different from a lot

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01:27:03,860 --> 01:27:06,740
Speaker 2: of the students here. Though he's not a different, I'm better,

1326
01:27:06,900 --> 01:27:10,019
Speaker 2: or any sanctimonious nonsense, just I'm different. I realize he's

1327
01:27:10,059 --> 01:27:13,780
Speaker 2: also the only Angels fan at his university. That you

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01:27:13,820 --> 01:27:16,700
Speaker 2: know that that alone was a phenomenon. Let me take

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01:27:16,740 --> 01:27:18,939
Speaker 2: two more, because I always believe the lecturers should leave

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01:27:18,939 --> 01:27:25,540
Speaker 2: before the audience does. So, okay, let's go to you. Yes, please, yes, sir?

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01:27:25,900 --> 01:27:29,339
Speaker 4: Can you imagine any sequence of events that could goggle

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01:27:29,420 --> 01:27:30,259
Speaker 4: turnaround at.

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01:27:30,180 --> 01:27:34,460
Speaker 2: The way colleges operate? Can I imagine any sequence of

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01:27:34,540 --> 01:27:40,540
Speaker 2: events that could cause a turnaround on the way colleges operate? Yes?

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01:27:40,700 --> 01:27:47,259
Speaker 2: If alumni stop supplying funds to neolistic institutions, Princeton comes

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01:27:47,300 --> 01:27:54,139
Speaker 2: to mind. Princeton has sunk terribly in just the last

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01:27:54,340 --> 01:27:58,259
Speaker 2: ten twenty years, in my opinion. Just to give I'll

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01:27:58,300 --> 01:28:03,019
Speaker 2: give you two examples. Harvard essentially got rid of I

1339
01:28:03,099 --> 01:28:08,059
Speaker 2: think a man who is not a serious academic, who's

1340
01:28:08,059 --> 01:28:11,420
Speaker 2: not a serious thinker, Cornell West, but who was a

1341
01:28:11,860 --> 01:28:15,939
Speaker 2: very popular figure. They got rid of him, and Princeton

1342
01:28:15,979 --> 01:28:18,539
Speaker 2: immediately took him up. It's almost like we want glamour

1343
01:28:18,660 --> 01:28:24,379
Speaker 2: instead of content. More terrible as Peter Singer is at Princeton,

1344
01:28:25,180 --> 01:28:28,219
Speaker 2: he has made the university professor. That's the highest rank

1345
01:28:28,300 --> 01:28:31,300
Speaker 2: you could have. They brought him from Australia. He is

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01:28:31,380 --> 01:28:34,700
Speaker 2: a man who believes that parents should have a thirty

1347
01:28:34,780 --> 01:28:36,780
Speaker 2: day right to kill their child if they feel that

1348
01:28:36,900 --> 01:28:40,540
Speaker 2: it's sick enough. In other words, he believes in infanticide.

1349
01:28:41,260 --> 01:28:44,019
Speaker 2: I am not distorting, I am not being dramatic, and

1350
01:28:44,140 --> 01:28:47,979
Speaker 2: he has other crazed positions. He's the father of animal liberation,

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01:28:48,180 --> 01:28:52,059
Speaker 2: is the author of it. If Princeton alumni, most of

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01:28:52,140 --> 01:28:54,059
Speaker 2: whom do not share the view that parents have a

1353
01:28:54,140 --> 01:28:58,019
Speaker 2: thirty day money back slaughter guarantee for their child, would

1354
01:28:58,099 --> 01:29:01,460
Speaker 2: know this and not and stop funding this nihilism of

1355
01:29:01,540 --> 01:29:05,339
Speaker 2: Princeton that could have an effect. Money is very powerful

1356
01:29:05,460 --> 01:29:10,380
Speaker 2: talk if the government. If the government stopped funding universities,

1357
01:29:10,580 --> 01:29:16,580
Speaker 2: the government is just an endless fawcet for universities. And

1358
01:29:17,460 --> 01:29:22,059
Speaker 2: whether they're responsible American wise or more morality wise or

1359
01:29:22,380 --> 01:29:24,780
Speaker 2: educationally wise doesn't seem to be an issue. It's just

1360
01:29:24,860 --> 01:29:27,860
Speaker 2: do they do good research? And I believe that that's

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01:29:27,900 --> 01:29:31,179
Speaker 2: true for the sciences. But uh, those are the things.

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01:29:31,220 --> 01:29:33,099
Speaker 2: And if parents just said, you know what, I just

1363
01:29:33,140 --> 01:29:36,139
Speaker 2: don't see why I should spend thirty thousand dollars. I

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01:29:36,260 --> 01:29:39,740
Speaker 2: can't think of a really powerful reason. If parents started

1365
01:29:39,740 --> 01:29:42,900
Speaker 2: speaking like that, and you know, uh sent their kids

1366
01:29:42,939 --> 01:29:46,500
Speaker 2: to less prestigious but free colleges are freer, less expensive,

1367
01:29:47,059 --> 01:29:49,939
Speaker 2: these things could could have an effect, But right now,

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01:29:50,660 --> 01:29:54,740
Speaker 2: there is no reason for colleges not to charge exorbitant amounts.

1369
01:29:55,340 --> 01:29:59,499
Speaker 2: Uh to teach your kids that everything is relative. Finally,

1370
01:30:00,300 --> 01:30:02,820
Speaker 2: whereas you know you were up early. I'm sorry, Okay,

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01:30:02,900 --> 01:30:03,300
Speaker 2: forgive me.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I'm a mathematician of German descent and a believer. Well,

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01:30:10,860 --> 01:30:14,660
Speaker 4: I ask you about something you said. Gables there in

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01:30:14,780 --> 01:30:19,700
Speaker 4: nineteen thirty one proved that nothing can be proven and

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01:30:19,820 --> 01:30:26,260
Speaker 4: that everything. So there's absolute realtivism and there are absolute thoughts.

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01:30:26,620 --> 01:30:31,099
Speaker 2: I'd like to comment, Uh, here's a mathematician of German

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01:30:31,180 --> 01:30:35,820
Speaker 2: descent who uh uh quotes Gato's theorem that nothing can

1378
01:30:35,900 --> 01:30:38,540
Speaker 2: be proved. But you say he proved that nothing could

1379
01:30:38,540 --> 01:30:44,620
Speaker 2: be proved. That strikes me as somewhat of a of

1380
01:30:44,700 --> 01:30:49,580
Speaker 2: a problem. None of did I did I hear you wrong,

1381
01:30:50,380 --> 01:30:53,900
Speaker 2: n what did do all that? Well? Okay, well yes,

1382
01:30:54,180 --> 01:30:59,660
Speaker 2: p yes, Well the it's the principle here is that

1383
01:31:00,019 --> 01:31:02,660
Speaker 2: if y, if you prove, you can't prove that, nothing

1384
01:31:02,740 --> 01:31:06,099
Speaker 2: can be proved because you have s defeated your proof

1385
01:31:06,660 --> 01:31:10,900
Speaker 2: since right, So that's like saying, you know, all generalities

1386
01:31:10,939 --> 01:31:14,660
Speaker 2: are false. Does that include that one? And so there

1387
01:31:14,820 --> 01:31:17,979
Speaker 2: there's always that problem. I will say this though, in

1388
01:31:18,059 --> 01:31:21,740
Speaker 2: the larger sense of what I think you're raising, there

1389
01:31:21,780 --> 01:31:26,980
Speaker 2: are leaps of faith that even the scientist makes. Everybody

1390
01:31:27,099 --> 01:31:30,340
Speaker 2: takes leaps of faith, not just the religious, but the

1391
01:31:30,420 --> 01:31:34,179
Speaker 2: religious are more intellectually honest in saying we are taking

1392
01:31:34,220 --> 01:31:36,620
Speaker 2: a leap of faith. That is why when I talk

1393
01:31:36,740 --> 01:31:39,740
Speaker 2: to many of my listeners are Christians, and they will

1394
01:31:39,780 --> 01:31:42,900
Speaker 2: tell me, ah, they read, they read some very powerful

1395
01:31:42,939 --> 01:31:45,939
Speaker 2: books and there are and they say, no, it's not

1396
01:31:46,059 --> 01:31:51,379
Speaker 2: that we have faith in Christ. It's not faith. It's provable.

1397
01:31:52,059 --> 01:31:54,379
Speaker 2: And I say, if it's provable, then there is no faith.

1398
01:31:55,620 --> 01:31:55,660
Speaker 3: No.

1399
01:31:56,380 --> 01:32:00,780
Speaker 2: I believe that Moses received the Ten Commandments through dine,

1400
01:32:01,180 --> 01:32:04,059
Speaker 2: divine revelation, but I don't believe for a second that

1401
01:32:04,140 --> 01:32:07,019
Speaker 2: I could prove it. If I could prove it, it's

1402
01:32:07,059 --> 01:32:12,099
Speaker 2: not faith. See here, both their secular and their religious

1403
01:32:12,180 --> 01:32:19,620
Speaker 2: make a mistake. Both have faith. Secular has faith. Science

1404
01:32:19,740 --> 01:32:25,660
Speaker 2: changes every day. Whatever you taught, then something new will show.

1405
01:32:25,740 --> 01:32:31,740
Speaker 2: Cosmology is my favorite, how everything changes. You know, the

1406
01:32:31,900 --> 01:32:34,939
Speaker 2: vast majority of the substance of the universe, we have

1407
01:32:35,059 --> 01:32:38,539
Speaker 2: no idea what it is. So how could a scientist

1408
01:32:38,660 --> 01:32:42,740
Speaker 2: claim objective knowledge? They have objective knowledge based on the

1409
01:32:42,860 --> 01:32:47,059
Speaker 2: data that they now have. That's all, and that's fine,

1410
01:32:47,140 --> 01:32:50,059
Speaker 2: But that's all it is. We all make leaps of faith.

1411
01:32:50,700 --> 01:32:53,740
Speaker 2: Even the atheist makes a leap of faith that murder

1412
01:32:53,860 --> 01:32:57,500
Speaker 2: is wrong. He doesn't really, in his heart believe that.

1413
01:32:57,700 --> 01:33:01,059
Speaker 2: I just happened to think it's wrong, right, There is

1414
01:33:01,260 --> 01:33:03,580
Speaker 2: some part of him that says, you know, it really

1415
01:33:03,740 --> 01:33:06,340
Speaker 2: is wrong, but not having a god to base it on.

1416
01:33:06,460 --> 01:33:10,300
Speaker 2: As a secular problem. Likewise, though religious people need to

1417
01:33:10,380 --> 01:33:13,979
Speaker 2: be humbled, we also have leaps of faith. That's okay,

1418
01:33:14,860 --> 01:33:17,380
Speaker 2: That is okay. I don't think God wanted us to

1419
01:33:17,460 --> 01:33:21,219
Speaker 2: be certain of his existence. God wanted us to believe

1420
01:33:21,700 --> 01:33:24,939
Speaker 2: in him. If God wanted us to be certain, he

1421
01:33:24,979 --> 01:33:29,540
Speaker 2: would have made it certain. But life would cease to

1422
01:33:29,660 --> 01:33:33,059
Speaker 2: be free if we were certain about God. When do

1423
01:33:33,140 --> 01:33:36,740
Speaker 2: you have greater freedom to speed in your car when

1424
01:33:36,820 --> 01:33:40,099
Speaker 2: you are certain the highway patrol is driving next to you,

1425
01:33:40,580 --> 01:33:43,460
Speaker 2: or when you are uncertain where the highway patrol is.

1426
01:33:44,740 --> 01:33:47,780
Speaker 2: If you were certain that God were hovered over you

1427
01:33:47,900 --> 01:33:50,979
Speaker 2: at every moment, you would have a lot less freedom

1428
01:33:51,059 --> 01:33:55,259
Speaker 2: to behave the way you do, and that God wanted

1429
01:33:55,300 --> 01:33:58,979
Speaker 2: it that way. He created a free species. Why did

1430
01:33:59,059 --> 01:34:01,860
Speaker 2: God create a free species that could torture and rape

1431
01:34:01,939 --> 01:34:03,900
Speaker 2: and murder? I don't know. I have a lot of

1432
01:34:04,059 --> 01:34:07,900
Speaker 2: questions to ask God. Why is salery not fattening? And

1433
01:34:08,099 --> 01:34:13,099
Speaker 2: cheesecake is that disturbs me a great deal? Why did

1434
01:34:13,180 --> 01:34:15,820
Speaker 2: he invent the mosquito? I don't know why he invented

1435
01:34:15,860 --> 01:34:18,260
Speaker 2: the mosquito. I have a whole series of questions I

1436
01:34:18,340 --> 01:34:22,139
Speaker 2: want to ask God. OK, say this finally. First, I

1437
01:34:22,220 --> 01:34:26,099
Speaker 2: am very grateful to El Camino College for having me.

1438
01:34:26,260 --> 01:34:28,180
Speaker 2: This is a it's a it's a rare college that

1439
01:34:28,380 --> 01:34:31,019
Speaker 2: invites somebody to tell you what your college isn't studying,

1440
01:34:31,340 --> 01:34:34,179
Speaker 2: which is in teaching, which shows how good a place

1441
01:34:34,260 --> 01:34:36,380
Speaker 2: it is that it would have somebody say this. I

1442
01:34:36,500 --> 01:34:44,820
Speaker 2: want to say that to you. Secondly, if you are

1443
01:34:44,900 --> 01:34:47,059
Speaker 2: not familiar with my work, I do hope you'll visit

1444
01:34:47,140 --> 01:34:51,099
Speaker 2: my website, Dennisprager dot com. I also hope that if

1445
01:34:51,140 --> 01:34:54,500
Speaker 2: you can between nine and noon, you can somehow check

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01:34:54,580 --> 01:34:57,860
Speaker 2: out my radio show on k r LA eight seventy.

1447
01:34:58,460 --> 01:35:00,660
Speaker 2: Until next time. Thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you, n now, thank you, thank you,

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01:35:16,180 --> 01:35:16,500
Speaker 3: thank you.

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Speaker 1: This has been timeless wisdom with Dennis Prager. Visit Dennisprager

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