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Speaker 1: Alex Garrett and everybody else it's helping move all the

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Speaker 1: I have a relative who is forward active duty Navy.

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Speaker 4: And Kevin, a blessing to the body of believers in

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Speaker 1: All Right, it's a it's a it's a wonderful study.

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Speaker 5: All with God and the fun with God. Right, my

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Speaker 4: And respect because I'm not gonna uh, you're not in

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Speaker 4: You got to come to city. See wow, Okay, I

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Speaker 4: Then we're there every Sunday at ten am, ready to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's and I would I would heartily endorse

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Speaker 1: Kevin mckella coming back from Times Square. Don't go anywhere and.

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Speaker 1: Welcome in. It's Kevin mccallaugh. Glad to have you with

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Speaker 1: in an attempt, right, It's all. This is all because

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Speaker 1: this really isn't the issue. Nobody's seriously arguing whether ancient

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Speaker 1: tribes should get their land back, just like you know,

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Speaker 1: no one's going to go back to the pre World

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Speaker 1: War One boundaries of where Germany was and give the

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Speaker 1: su Dtan land back to Germany. That this is not

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Speaker 1: going to happen. Wars happen, people conquer and they take

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Speaker 1: over places. This is all to shield people from the

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Speaker 1: real issue, which I'm going to bring up in the

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Speaker 1: next segment, and I want to take your phone calls

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Speaker 1: on it, because I am very confused about how certain

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Speaker 1: governors in the country are being able to say what

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Speaker 1: they're saying with a straight face, because I would think

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Speaker 1: that we are more thoughtful people than to accept what

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Speaker 1: they're saying to our faces and letting them just get

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Speaker 1: away with it. But I've got a very specific example

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Speaker 1: I want to start with when we come back eight

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Speaker 1: then I want to take your phone calls the rest

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Speaker 1: of the way. Eight eight eight six ninety two seven

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Speaker 1: mind you. Right after this.

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Speaker 3: Here he is from New York that I'm Kevin, Kevin McCullough.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Lonnie Perkins, Kevin mccallough. Glad to have you

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Speaker 1: with us. Eight eight eight six nine two seven two

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Speaker 1: area of southern California. Big blowtorch signal there, and we

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Speaker 1: appreciate the fact that you have us on every single day,

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Speaker 1: I'm still talking about it because there's been so much

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Speaker 1: subterfuge on this, and I don't I think it's working,

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Speaker 1: but I can't let it even try to work. If

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Speaker 1: I have to be a one man force holding, you know,

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Speaker 1: holding the wall up myself on this, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: because I am not of the opinion that dogging law

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Speaker 1: enforcement and our country is going to lead to anything

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Speaker 1: good for us. I just don't think that works out well. Now,

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Speaker 1: if law enforcement was rampantly doing illegal things and hurting

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Speaker 1: the people that it was supposed to be protecting and

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Speaker 1: this sort of thing, then I could say, well, maybe

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Speaker 1: you're opening yourself up to it, but that's not happening.

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Speaker 1: Even with the Renee Good and the alex Pretty deaths.

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Speaker 1: That's two out of more than one hundred thousand that

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Speaker 1: have gone down in the last month in terms of arrests,

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Speaker 1: and when you're talking about statistics, it's a very very

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Speaker 1: and there's lots of reasons why I think those two

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Speaker 1: happened where they happened, And I'm going to touch on

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Speaker 1: that right now because in New York, the governor here

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Speaker 1: said on Morning Joe on that MS now before then

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Speaker 1: later whatever whatever whatever that network is, she wants she says.

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Speaker 1: She wants to pass the law that prohibits the counties

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Speaker 1: in New York that wish to cooperate with ICE. Here's

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Speaker 1: what she said. Now listen to the words, the exact

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Speaker 1: words that she uses. You're not using our local police.

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Speaker 1: I need them to protect the communities and not have

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Speaker 1: this distrust. What distrust is that we'll come back to that,

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Speaker 1: and this is what we're hearing that people are not

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Speaker 1: distinguishing between local police, and so we try so hard

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Speaker 1: to have a positive relationship with our communities of trust.

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Speaker 1: You don't. You don't have good trust in your communities.

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Speaker 1: And it's just that's not normally how it works. Normally,

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Speaker 1: the police are revered in most neighborhoods. They're thought of

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Speaker 1: as being heroes, she says. And I want my police,

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Speaker 1: which the local police aren't her police. The state police

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Speaker 1: are her police. The local police belong to the municipalities.

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Speaker 1: But that's a different issue, she said. I want my

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Speaker 1: police going after the murders, the rapists, the gun traffickers,

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Speaker 1: being available for emergencies, and if they're off, they're being

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Speaker 1: deputized by ICE under these agreements that just a few

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Speaker 1: of our counties are doing. They're being distracted, and I

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Speaker 1: don't want that, and I'm not going to be supporting that,

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Speaker 1: and I'm going to change the law in the state

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Speaker 1: of New York for that. Okay, this is a governor

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Speaker 1: who just said she wants the law enforcement to go

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Speaker 1: after the murderers, the rapists, the gun traffickers, Notice she

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Speaker 1: didn't say human traffickers, and being available for emergencies. That's

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Speaker 1: what she wants. Quote her police, which aren't her police,

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Speaker 1: they're the police that are in the local communities. But

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Speaker 1: she wants her police to be available to do those things.

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Speaker 1: Governor Hockle, what do you think ICE is going after?

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Speaker 1: Who do you think that they're going trying to pick up?

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Speaker 1: Who they're trying to remove from your streets so that

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Speaker 1: they can no longer commit the crimes that they committed

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Speaker 1: whereby they became the targets of ICE to begin with.

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Speaker 1: I just think everything she says here is really really telling.

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Speaker 1: She doesn't want the local police used because she wants

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Speaker 1: to protect the communities and not have distrust. And she says,

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Speaker 1: and there's a distrust because people can't distinguish between ICE

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Speaker 1: and the local police. I would argue, and I want

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Speaker 1: you to. I want you to call if you especially

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Speaker 1: if you disagree with me, because I want to know

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Speaker 1: why I'm wrong on this if I am eight eight

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Speaker 1: what I want to know. Should there be a huge

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Speaker 1: difference between the local police and ICE? Should it bother

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Speaker 1: her that people may get the different law enforcement agencies confused?

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Speaker 1: Or should there be a general acceptance not for looking

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Speaker 1: on to wrongdoing and pacifying the wrongdoing, but generally speaking,

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Speaker 1: should there be a general reaction, a general response to

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Speaker 1: law enforcement period that is one of trust and respect,

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Speaker 1: And I would argue obedience in all things that are

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Speaker 1: lawful eight eight eight six nine two seven two three four.

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Speaker 1: She doesn't want ICE to come in because she says

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Speaker 1: it's going to confuse people, and then people won't know

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Speaker 1: if it's their local police officer telling them, or if

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Speaker 1: it's an ICE officer telling them whatever they're telling them.

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Speaker 1: Does that even matter? Eight eight eight six nine two

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Speaker 1: seven two three four. Should it matter if we are someone,

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Speaker 1: if we are a country of laws, and we believe

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Speaker 1: that keeping those laws and obeying those laws are rather

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Speaker 1: vital and important, Does it really matter to me if

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Speaker 1: it's a US marshal that tells me something, or a

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Speaker 1: county sheriff that tells me to do it, or a

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Speaker 1: local police officer or an ICE member or member of

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Speaker 1: the Secret Service, or even if I'm not even even

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Speaker 1: if I'm not in the town where I live and

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Speaker 1: I and there's not there's a police officer and he's

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Speaker 1: in uniform, and he's not from my town, but he

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Speaker 1: but he gives me a piece of advice, or he says, hey,

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Speaker 1: you know this would be good for you to do.

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Speaker 1: Should I go take off Jack, You're from the next

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Speaker 1: town over. Forget that. No, I'm not listening to you.

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Speaker 1: This is very telling, I think on Hockel's part, because

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Speaker 1: I think this is how Mike Walls thinks. I think

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Speaker 1: this is how Gavin Newsom thinks. I think this is

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Speaker 1: how a lot of people think. Thinking that they're making

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Speaker 1: some great point about differentiating law enforcement. If you were

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Speaker 1: telling your kids before they go out the door this morning,

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Speaker 1: would you tell them to ignore everybody except just the

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Speaker 1: police that are from their their neighborhood eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: of the things I want to talk to you about Well,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about it as we continue. Stay here, let's

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Speaker 1: stick around for more of than.

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Speaker 6: Kevin next serving it up with a no drink minimum.

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Speaker 6: It's that cabinet.

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Speaker 1: Show, all right, Very glad to have you with us.

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Speaker 1: Eight eight eight six nine two seven two three four

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Speaker 1: I'm not, I'm not. This is not an issue of

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Speaker 1: me desiring to chase my tail here. I think I

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Speaker 1: think that I am onto something, and I do want

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Speaker 1: to know if you believe that there is something to

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Speaker 1: this because here, here's what when a governor says, I

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Speaker 1: don't want ice to come in because it's going to

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Speaker 1: confuse my people. They're not going to know which law

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Speaker 1: enforcement is which. First of all, do any of us

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Speaker 1: is that the way we raise our kids? Well, you

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Speaker 1: can acknowledge this authority, but you not allowed to acknowledge

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Speaker 1: that authority. How would that work out for you if

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Speaker 1: you did that in the house? Okay, dads, I try

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Speaker 1: this one on tonight. Go home and say, hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: you only have to obey me. Nothing that mom says goes.

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Speaker 1: I can hear the plates whizzing past your ears now

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Speaker 1: like that's not that's that's no, that's that's a non

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Speaker 1: starter right away, and it would be irresponsible when the

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Speaker 1: authority if we think about authority in terms of like

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Speaker 1: the holistic sense, why God allows authority to exist, what

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Speaker 1: he wants us to you know, understand about authority and

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Speaker 1: how it's used and why he puts it over us.

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Speaker 1: But it's it's for our benefit, right Like authority when

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Speaker 1: it's proper installed, when it's properly functioning, it protects those

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Speaker 1: who sit in its in its presence, think of it

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Speaker 1: as this lion cubs playing on the serengetti, you know,

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Speaker 1: just running around. Hyenas see them. They they may be

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Speaker 1: interested in trying to have lunch. But if there's Papa

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Speaker 1: Lion sitting there and the kids are rolling around playing

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Speaker 1: right next to him, there's no way that the hyenas

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Speaker 1: are going to go anywhere near them. Why because the

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Speaker 1: presence of accountability, the presence of authority, the presence of

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Speaker 1: not being allowed to get away with what you shouldn't

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Speaker 1: be allowed to get away with. And I don't know

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Speaker 1: why it's right now, a bunch of Democrat governors that

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Speaker 1: seem to have I'm not a I'm not a partisan.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't want to engage only

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Speaker 1: partisan conversations. But it does seem to be Democrat governors

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Speaker 1: that are that are the ones that are basically telling

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Speaker 1: their populations. Here's an authority, a lawfully established, virtuous authority

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Speaker 1: that the nation established. Democrats voted for it, Republicans voted

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Speaker 1: for it when they when they founded ICE, it was

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Speaker 1: a bipartisan thing. That this authority is one that you

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Speaker 1: do not have to pay attention to. And when you're

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Speaker 1: a governor, you have a lot of power at your disposal,

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Speaker 1: and your word means a lot more than like the

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Speaker 1: janitor at the school's word means like you're both important people.

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Speaker 1: God loves you both equally. One of you has much

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Speaker 1: bigger impact on what goes on, which means you should

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Speaker 1: be held to a higher standard actually if you think

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Speaker 1: about it. So my question is, and it's it's really simple,

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Speaker 1: why would a governor want to willfully t tell their

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Speaker 1: people you don't have to obey that authority, but this

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Speaker 1: authority you do. Is that what Hochel's doing. It sounds

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Speaker 1: to me like that's what she's doing. Eight eight, eight

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Speaker 1: six nine two seven two three four, eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: into the next hour on this as well, because I

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Speaker 1: I've I just don't know how much more of these

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Speaker 1: governors acting this way that the nation can survive with

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Speaker 1: this this this group is harming our nation more than

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Speaker 1: it is helping. If you disagree with me, you get

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Speaker 1: to go to the front of the line. Eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight six ninety two seven two three four. It's that

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Speaker 1: Kevin Show.

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Speaker 2: Somewhere in the vowels of the City that Never sleeps.

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Speaker 1: Kevin McCollough radio host with Salem medium, a.

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Speaker 2: Man also not sleeping, Vin and the poet, and that

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Speaker 2: guy would like a word with you.

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Speaker 1: Many of you know him from his books for Damas.

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Speaker 1: Of course, that Kevin Show is going to be great.

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Speaker 1: The only thing that could be greater, of course, would

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Speaker 1: elected leaders, we're going to talk about Mayor Mumdanni the

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Speaker 1: the Witdew Communist in the next I did not know

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Speaker 1: this until this morning, but thirteen people have died of

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Speaker 1: freezing to death on his watch in New York City.

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Speaker 1: Then since he became mayor first of the year, thirteen

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Speaker 1: and he refused to disperse them get them into safer places.

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Speaker 1: More people have died because of his policy on that

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Speaker 1: than have been shot or killed or you know whatever.

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Speaker 1: By ICE nationwide, thirteen people. We're on February third, he's

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Speaker 1: been in office a month and three days. Sixteen people

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Speaker 1: thirteen of them fro solid. It's pretty scary. But this

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Speaker 1: is why what Huckel's doing is even stranger. And it's

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Speaker 1: not just Hocal. I don't want it to be focused

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Speaker 7: And.

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Speaker 1: They think, they say in any way that they're doing

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Speaker 1: they come in to do what to enforce the law

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Speaker 1: that has been the law for a really long time. ICE.

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Speaker 1: Just so you're aware, because the messaging out in the

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Speaker 1: mainstream it gets very convoluted. ICE is not doing anything

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Speaker 1: that they have not done for literally years. There's a

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Speaker 1: bigger need for them to do it more right now

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Speaker 1: us with. If you've had twenty million people come over

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Speaker 1: And I don't know how many months it's been in

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Speaker 1: unlawful border penetration on our southern border, I think going

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Speaker 1: border patrol should be doing. The border patrol shouldn't be

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Speaker 1: processing people for entry, they should be keeping the border patrolled.

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Speaker 1: And once you stopped allowing entry for many any reason,

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Speaker 1: what whatever's given I just want to come, you don't

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Speaker 1: have as many to worry about. So now the crux

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Speaker 1: How do we get these people out? And in nearly

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Speaker 1: and ICE isn't asking to do things that they haven't

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Speaker 1: done before. So understanding that that's the case, why are

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Speaker 1: as to who's really the police. Now. I don't think

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Speaker 1: I don't think the average citizen needs to understand the

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Speaker 1: probably won't even be in the path of any of

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Speaker 1: get confused. There might be an issue of understanding who

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Speaker 1: And why I say, even if your people don't understand

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Speaker 1: In fact, I would argue that if some of these

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Speaker 1: they would join the ICE efforts, get the bad people out,

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Speaker 1: and win such good will by the people that are

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Speaker 1: their reelection. Chances is that unreasonable to imagine. Does it

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Speaker 1: about what is commonly good and is law abiding for

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Speaker 1: the people of your state, of your city, of your neighborhood,

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Speaker 1: of your block. Would I would like to think, I

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Speaker 1: governors who genuinely want the best for their people will say,

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Speaker 1: we are going to do everything we can to keep

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Speaker 1: you safe. And when Huckel says I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: to allow immigration and customs enforcement to come into our state,

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Speaker 1: she is not saying I'm going to do everything I

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Speaker 1: everything I can to keep the status quo. And if

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Speaker 1: Is that a fair reading of what she's saying eight

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Speaker 1: a spiritual obligation keep your people safe. You're violating that

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Speaker 1: governor's eight eight eight six nine two seven two three four.

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Speaker 1: Kevin McCullough coming right back from New York That Kevin

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Speaker 1: Kevin McCullough, welcome back from Times Square. It's that Kevin Show,

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Speaker 1: the Heritage Foundation, and Nicole, you've been in recent weeks

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Speaker 1: watching the brand new mayoralty of one mister Zoronmmdani. He's

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Speaker 1: been at the job now for a month. What has

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Speaker 1: he done to date?

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Speaker 7: Absolutely great question, and it is certainly tragic that he

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Speaker 7: but to date, some of the things that he has

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Speaker 7: been able to allegedly accomplish so far. He passed I

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Speaker 7: think a couple of weeks ago some called two Care

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Speaker 7: with the assistance of Kathy Hochel, which was a universal

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Speaker 7: child's care for all.

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Speaker 8: Two year olds.

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Speaker 7: So that was actually one campaign promise he was able

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Speaker 7: to keep. He came painned on universal child's care for

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Speaker 7: he's already got the two year olds down, which of

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Speaker 7: course is going to be a huge taxpayer burden. At

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Speaker 7: some recent safety proposals, I saw pledging one point one

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Speaker 7: billion dollars to the Department of Community Safety, which are

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Speaker 7: basically glorified mental health workers that he hopes will eventually

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Speaker 7: replace police in the city, which would make the city

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Speaker 7: a lot more.

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Speaker 8: Dangerous than it is now. But we are only a

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Speaker 8: month in.

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Speaker 7: He campaigned on a law of socialist promises, like the

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Speaker 7: government grocery stores, rent freezes that he has been very

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Speaker 7: heavily pushing, a thirty or minimum wage he's been heavily pushing,

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Speaker 7: and just all of these things, of course financed by taxpayers.

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Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of people watching, especially if

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Speaker 1: they live outside of New York, really have an appreciation

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Speaker 1: for this. But there have been changes even in things

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Speaker 1: like the COPA law, where if you own a property

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Speaker 1: you can't even just sell it out right without first

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Speaker 1: having to offer it up to a nonprofit that the

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Speaker 1: Like this is like crazy, like Soviet era style.

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Speaker 7: Stuff, it really is, And especially looking at housing, just

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Speaker 7: the price controls that he wants to implement, the rent

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Speaker 7: freezes essentially a price ceiling with saying how much landlords

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Speaker 7: can charge. And we know just not an economic theory,

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Speaker 7: but from experience and from history, we see the detriments

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, So let's talk a little bit about because you've

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Speaker 1: written in more in depth about some of these particular policies,

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Speaker 1: the government owned grocery stores. What do we know about

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Speaker 1: not only what he wants to do, but has it

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Speaker 1: ever been tried before? What's the result going to be?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 1: Is there anything we can base a prediction on?

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Speaker 8: No great question, Kevin.

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Speaker 7: He wants to implement five government grocery stores, located one

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Speaker 7: in each of New York City's five boroughs. They will

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Speaker 7: be located on public property, so they won't have to

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Speaker 7: pay rent, our property taxes, already putting them at a

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Speaker 7: sort of competitive advantage in the market. They will be

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Speaker 7: run at a zero percent profit margin, meaning they will

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Speaker 7: be one hundred percent financed buy tax payers. And we

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Speaker 7: know from just looking at economic theory, what happens when

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Speaker 7: you have government involvement in the free market. It's always

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Speaker 7: inefficient and it's costly. The private sector simply does it better.

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Speaker 7: And we've seen this play out not just domestically. We've

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Speaker 7: seen some government grocery stores in America.

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Speaker 8: One of them was in.

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Speaker 7: Erie, Kansas in twenty twenty one, and it actually closed

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Speaker 7: after I think less than four years of operating at

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Speaker 7: a net loss. It was two costly to tax payers,

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Speaker 7: and they eventually leased it to the private sector, which

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Speaker 7: was sort of comical in the sense that the government

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Speaker 7: lease operations to the private sector, who simply does it better.

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Speaker 7: We've also seen in baldswin Florida, another example. They opened

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Speaker 7: a loss. It was two costly to tax payers. Those

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Speaker 7: are just two examples from within the United States. But

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Speaker 7: of course, the big example that economists and free market

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Speaker 7: proponents always point to is the Soviet Union, and it's

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Speaker 7: you nationalize food supply versus a free market system like

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Speaker 7: we have in the US and the Soviet Union, when

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Speaker 7: the government took over the food industry, essentially it resulted

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Speaker 7: in shortages in the empty shelves, the rationing in the

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Speaker 7: Soviet breadlines, So this idea of government grocery stores.

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Speaker 8: Is not new.

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Speaker 7: We know that it fails in economic theory. We've seen

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Speaker 7: it fail in history, and it is pretty devastating to

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Speaker 7: see Zorn Mumdani you know, campaign on this and he

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Speaker 7: actually wants to implement it in New York City.

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Speaker 1: When he says that he wants the stores to operate

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Speaker 1: at a you know, a break even level, how does

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Speaker 1: that work? Because you have to have supply, you have

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Speaker 1: to have labor that manns the store, and then you

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Speaker 1: have to have a way of you know, making sure

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Speaker 1: that the operations go on day to day things like

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Speaker 1: electricity and broadband and other stuff. Physically, it would this

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00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't be like people just come in off the street

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Speaker 1: and just get groceries for free. They're going to have

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Speaker 1: to pay something for these things. Right.

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Speaker 7: Yes, the prices will be kept artificially low compared to

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Speaker 7: maybe a private stores, but they will be run at

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Speaker 7: no profit, meaning they will be one hundred percent financed

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Speaker 7: by taxpayers. And we know when the government isn't using

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Speaker 7: its own money, it typically doesn't use that money well,

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Speaker 7: meaning that this is going to be extremely burdensome to taxpayers,

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Speaker 7: and it is quite interesting that he says it will

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Speaker 7: be run for no profit because, like you mentioned, they

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Speaker 7: have to pay labor, they have to pay to keep

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Speaker 7: the lights on, they have to pay to actually get

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Speaker 7: the supply of goods that will be in the store.

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Speaker 7: But comparing that to the private sector, private stores only

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Speaker 7: make a profit margin of about two percent, so they're

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Speaker 7: not these you know, these greedy stores that the often socialist.

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Speaker 1: Well where John Katzimatidas is a friend and he's been

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Speaker 1: operating Gristitis and Degastinos here in the city for years,

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Speaker 1: and most years he loses money on his grocery operation.

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Speaker 1: Very few years does he make anything more than two

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Speaker 1: or three percent, and a lot of times he just

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Speaker 1: eats cost on things. And he he does not have

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Speaker 1: a particularly discount oriented store. I mean, it's it's not

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Speaker 1: it's not the kind of thing that is going to

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Speaker 1: be it's going to be ideal, especially considering the well

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Speaker 1: his his operation is not by any means a luxury

906
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Speaker 1: or you know, something fanciful that's running up a big

907
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Speaker 1: profit margin. He's barely making it. And he's and he

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Speaker 1: has higher prices than some of the suburban areas where

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Speaker 1: you can go and get the same groceries at a

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Speaker 1: lower cost. You have to travel to get him, but

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Speaker 1: the advantage is the is the closeness. I can't see

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Speaker 1: how Mom Donnie does anything close to this and brings

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Speaker 1: about not only a good experience for the consumers, but

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Speaker 1: there's no way that those stores stay in business.

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Speaker 8: That's absolutely right.

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Speaker 7: And looking at the examples that I talked about earlier

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Speaker 7: in Florida, in Kansas that have opened or in the

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Speaker 7: past to open the stores, they were too costly to taxpayers.

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Speaker 7: The government figured out that they just can't compete with

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Speaker 7: the private sector. The private sector does it better because

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Speaker 7: they're better equipped to handle the intricacies of running a business.

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Speaker 7: The government has no place in doing that. And like

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Speaker 7: you mentioned, it's not going to bring down food affordability

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Speaker 7: for New Yorkers. If anything, it's going to be more

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Speaker 7: costly because now people are going to be paying more

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Speaker 7: in taxes. The city's going to be taking on more debt.

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Speaker 1: Toto all of these projects and wants to slam corporations

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Speaker 1: with higher taxes. What's to prevent all of them from

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Speaker 1: just pulling up stakes and leaving.

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Speaker 3: Not much.

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Speaker 7: He wants to increase the corporate tax rate from the

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Speaker 7: local rate from eight point eighty five percent to eleven

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Speaker 7: point five percent, making the overall federal, state, and local

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Speaker 7: corporate tax burden forty percent for these businesses. And there

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Speaker 7: really isn't anything stopping these businesses from from leaving because

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Speaker 7: they're just like you said, getting slammed with higher taxes.

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Speaker 7: They likely won't have incentive to an incentive to stay

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Speaker 7: in the city and pay these high rates, or if

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Speaker 7: they do choose to say, choose to stay, they're going

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Speaker 7: to have to inflate their prices.

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Speaker 8: To counteract that higher tax burden.

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Speaker 7: So either way, if they raise their prices, that's going

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Speaker 7: to be terrible for consumers. They might lay off workers

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Speaker 7: once again to cut costs, or if they just leave

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Speaker 7: the city altogether, they take with them their labor, their

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Speaker 7: contributions to the economy, and they take with them the

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Speaker 7: TA space that Mmdonie desperately needs to finance all of these.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate your time as always, thank you for joining.

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Speaker 8: Thank you so much for having me on today.

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Speaker 1: Calvin McCalla coming back from Times Squared. It's that Kevin Show.

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Speaker 1: Get the podcast at the Salem Podcast Network. Don't go anywhere,

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Speaker 1: Let's stick around.

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Speaker 3: For more of BT Kevin next here he is from

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Speaker 3: New York.

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Speaker 1: That Kevin Kevin McCullough eight eight eight six nine two

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Speaker 1: seven two three four eight eight eight six ninety two

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Speaker 1: seven two three four. During the break, I was just

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Speaker 1: doing a little surfing. I started the show out today

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Speaker 1: just making mention that it's been uncovered that the the

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Speaker 1: celebrities that were all you know, anti Ice at the

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Speaker 1: Grammys loudly verbally or or visually they were wearing pins

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Speaker 1: or or they made statements from the from the podium

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Speaker 1: that that Billie Eilish says, you know, no one's illegal

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Speaker 1: in stolen Land, meaning that if somebody comes to the US,

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Speaker 1: they can't be considered illegal here because our land was

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Speaker 1: stolen from people. I don't know what that has to

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Speaker 1: do with people being here without legal permission to be here,

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Speaker 1: but you know, they want to play these semantic games

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Speaker 1: no one is illegal. Well, yeah, I guess that's technically

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01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 1: kind of true. The legality of who you are isn't

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Speaker 1: really measured by whether you're legally human or not legally

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Speaker 1: human or something like that. But your presence in the

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Speaker 1: country is legal, or your presence in the country is illegal,

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Speaker 1: you're not legal or illegal. It's not illegal to be you,

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Speaker 1: but your presence here may not conform to the laws.

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Speaker 1: Therefore your entry into this place can be a crime.

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Speaker 1: It can be and uh so she says, no one's

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Speaker 1: illegal on stolen lands. And then we find out that

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Speaker 1: she and the Beebers and Lady Gagon a few others

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Speaker 1: that were all, you know, loud and proud about everything,

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Speaker 1: they all own lands that are on sacred ancient Indian

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Speaker 1: tribe territory lands. And now the breaking update to this,

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Speaker 1: Billie Eilish, who said that at the award ceremony, is

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Speaker 1: now being called out by Native American tribe after she

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Speaker 1: insisted no one is illegal on stolen land. The Tonga tribe,

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Speaker 1: based in southern California, tells Fox News the singer's multimillion

987
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Speaker 1: dollar mansion sits on their ancestral land in Glendale. The

988
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Speaker 1: tribe says they have reached out to Eilish but have

989
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 1: not heard back from her. It is our hope that

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Speaker 1: in future discussions the tribe can explicitly be referenced to

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Speaker 1: ensure the public understands that the Greater Los Angeles Basin

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Speaker 1: remains Gabriel Llino Tonga territory, but the actual tribe who

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Speaker 1: possessed the land where Billy Oilish's house was built. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Billy Elis should have to forfeit

995
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 1: her house. That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying

996
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 1: is is that she is thumbing her nose so hard

997
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 1: at the nation as a whole for something that she

998
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 1: literally has done in microcosm identical to what she's accusing

999
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 1: others of doing. Now she'll say, no, I didn't know

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01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 1: about that, I just bought the house. Well, nobody, none

1001
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 1: of the rest of us here have any relationship to

1002
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 1: the stealing quote unquote stealing of territorial lands. And it

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Speaker 1: was and it wasn't stolen. This is part of what

1004
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 1: they don't teach in schools about this. But there were

1005
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 1: a series of treaties and compromises and deals, and depending

1006
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 1: on the tribe and depending on the region, depending on

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01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 1: where they were, and depending on how not all of

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Speaker 1: it was done. Certainly not all of it was done

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Speaker 1: in favor of the of the native tribes, but not

1010
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 1: all of the tribes got worked over either. Like there

1011
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 1: was there was good and take, There was good and

1012
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:09,959
Speaker 1: bad give and take in all of that, and where

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01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 1: we are today is where we are. Like, I don't

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Speaker 1: believe that you can go back and rectify history. History

1015
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 1: was what history was. We can look at it, we

1016
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 1: can examine it, we can learn it, we can we

1017
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 1: can learn from it. We can set new ideals and

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01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 1: new principles and aim for you know, better outcomes the

1019
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 1: next go around. But it's kind of like the argument

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Speaker 1: that there should be reparations now for four generations back

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01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 1: of people that owned human slaves. Well, if you do

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01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 1: that in the US, most of us don't have any

1023
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 1: relationships to slave owners. The vast majority of Americans don't have.

1024
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 1: So you're going to then take from the people that

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Speaker 1: had nothing to do with it, even four generations later,

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01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 1: to do what give to people that have all of

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01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 1: the opportunities that none of their ancestors did, and have

1028
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:11,080
Speaker 1: every bit of ability to go and do more. This

1029
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 1: idea of picking winners and losers and favorites and you know, unfavorables,

1030
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 1: it's really it's a very crass way of looking at humanity.

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Speaker 1: And this is what I'm calling these governors out on today.

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01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 1: They think that their people are stupid. That's the bottom line.

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Speaker 1: Mike Walls, Kathy Hokeel Gavin Newsom. They think that the

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01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 1: voters in their state are stupid, at least that's what

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Speaker 1: they're saying in their language. I'm not sure that my

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01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 1: people will be able to tell the difference between their

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Speaker 1: local police and the Ice agents. That's really that. That's

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Speaker 1: the objection that you have. Your folks are so dumb.

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01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 1: I don't think it's necessary. I think you should pay

1040
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 1: respect to all that are in authority, unless they are

1041
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 1: directly violating scripture or dishonoring God or another human like

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01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 1: I think that there are obvious times when that should

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01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 1: be There should be an exception to that. But you're

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01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 1: telling me that your folks are they're just too dumb

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01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 1: to understand. We have a high view of ourselves, we

1046
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 1: have a low view of others, and it should be

1047
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 1: the opposite. Kevin mccallaugh, come r my back, don't go

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01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 1: away here.

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Speaker 3: He is from New York. That Kevin Kevin McCollough.

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Speaker 1: My phone number is eight eight eight six nine two

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Speaker 1: seven two three four eight eight six nine two seven

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Speaker 1: two three four. Christy Nome, the Secretary of the Department

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Speaker 1: of Homeland Security, heard the the rumblings at the Grammys

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01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:29,679
Speaker 1: on Sunday night, and I thought she had a pretty

1055
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 1: unique reaction to it. Christie's actually before she was brought

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Speaker 1: into the Trump administration. She was she was she's actually

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Speaker 1: substituted on some of our Salem Radio Network shows before.

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Speaker 1: She's been a host on some of these different ones,

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Speaker 1: and she's been a guest on nearly all of them.

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Speaker 1: But she spoke out after Bad Money and Billie Eilish

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Speaker 1: and the others said what they said, and this is

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Speaker 1: what she said. I thought I thought it was I

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Speaker 1: thought it was no. She said, I just wish that

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01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:05,639
Speaker 1: they knew what wonderful, amazing people our ice officers are.

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Speaker 1: Many of these officers live in communities where they are

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Speaker 1: doing enforcement activities, So they're in the community that they're

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Speaker 1: having to do the enforcement in their families live there,

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Speaker 1: and that's their neighbors that they are protecting by getting

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Speaker 1: dangerous criminals off the street. They're going after the murderers

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Speaker 1: and rapists and people that are trafficking drugs, and they're

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Speaker 1: protecting America. She said, this is what President Trump said

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Speaker 1: he would do. He said he would make us safer.

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Speaker 1: We've reached historic lows and crime rates, the lowest rate

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Speaker 1: of murder and crime since we have been recording it

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Speaker 1: in over one hundred years. Noo, I'm told Fox News Digital.

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Speaker 1: She said, it's real results people are feeling in their communities,

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Speaker 1: and it's too bad that ill informed, famous musicians make

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Speaker 1: statements like that without knowing what great Americans. ICE and

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Speaker 1: Border Patrol officers are said yesterday in my column and

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Speaker 1: here on the show that this is the most thankless

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Speaker 1: job that you can possibly have in America right now

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Speaker 1: because of what the media is saying and doing about them.

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Speaker 1: But does that change your perspective at all to know

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Speaker 1: that many of these officers, well, why, that's why that

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Speaker 1: group attacked the church in Minneapolis. You know what I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about a couple of weekends ago, when a group

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Speaker 1: of protesters, most of whom did not live in the area,

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Speaker 1: found out that one of the ICE agents did live

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Speaker 1: in the area and in fact was likely at a

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Speaker 1: certain church on Sunday morning, they stormed the service with

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Speaker 1: the intent of finding this person, creating havoc, scaring everybody

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Speaker 1: in there, and they were successful on all those things.

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Speaker 1: That's the goal, though, is to intimidate and tell people

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Speaker 1: to be quiet. And I don't think that we can friend.

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Speaker 1: I think that the if someone denigrates ICE in your presence,

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Speaker 1: if they denigrate police in your presence, if they denigrate

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Speaker 1: you know, the military that puts its life on the

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Speaker 1: line for us all the time. These are These are

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Speaker 1: agents of the country that are actively employed to protect

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Speaker 1: you and in and in the ICE raids in particular.

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Speaker 1: These are these are people that are actively involved in

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Speaker 1: enforcing laws that most of the time have been overlooked, ignored,

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Speaker 1: set aside by local leaders for whatever you judge for yourself,

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Speaker 1: but for whatever reasons that they might have, they have

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Speaker 1: decided to just look the other way on this stuff.

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Speaker 1: And as they do that, what happens. Well, if you

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Speaker 1: have known murderers and child molesters and rapists that are

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Speaker 1: in your neighborhood and they have committed these crimes since

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Speaker 1: being here and you don't do anything about it, that

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Speaker 1: sends the message to them they can do it again.

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Speaker 1: And this is the more stunting part. Then even a

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Speaker 1: governor pretending likes she doesn't think that her people can

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Speaker 1: tell the difference between local police and ICE. I don't

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Speaker 1: think that there's a need to. I think if you

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Speaker 1: see law enforcement, I just think it's a good rule

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Speaker 1: of thumb, do as you're asked, cooperate, be peaceful. If

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Speaker 1: you don't like what they're doing, certainly, I guess you

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Speaker 1: can protest, but you can't protest them into not doing

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Speaker 1: their job. They've been hired by the people of the

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Speaker 1: United States to go and get these dangerous, heinously dangerous

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Speaker 1: criminals and to return them, to return the neighborhood to

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Speaker 1: safety by removing them. The fact that people and I

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Speaker 1: don't know where it comes from. I don't know why

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Speaker 1: they why they want to oppose that. I've wanted to

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Speaker 1: ask people that are actively hate Ice and Ice is

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Speaker 1: terrible and Ice this, and I said, what do you

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Speaker 1: have against Ice keeping your your neighborhood safe? You know

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Speaker 1: what Ice isn't doing. And you don't even hear you

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Speaker 1: don't even hear the anti ice protesters say this anymore.

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Speaker 1: But they were trying to say at the beginning, Oh,

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Speaker 1: they're they're they're streaming, they're taking grandma out and they're

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Speaker 1: and they're you know, all the buela and like they're

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Speaker 1: not letting her and and nobody says that now because

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Speaker 1: we've all seen the mugshots of the people that they've gotten.

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Speaker 1: They're not grannies, and they don't look innocent, and if

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Speaker 1: their rap sheets are accurate, it's people that have had

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Speaker 1: a very very negative impact on the society and the

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Speaker 1: world around them, and in particular that neighborhood that they

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Speaker 1: were taken from. Everybody's concerned, and I think fairly so

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Speaker 1: for Savannah gun Thrie's mom. Today, lots of stories about

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Speaker 1: you know, it's been four days that she's been missing.

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Speaker 1: She didn't show up for church on Sunday, and so

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Speaker 1: they've they've been anxious and trying to figure out where

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Speaker 1: she went. She's in her eighties. It's a sad story.

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Speaker 1: But if if she ends up having been abducted or

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Speaker 1: killed by someone who was in the country are illegally,

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Speaker 1: will will the press finally say, oh, maybe criminals that

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Speaker 1: don't have the right to be here, maybe those people

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Speaker 1: should not be here. I think if we have anything

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Speaker 1: but a grateful heart of gratitude for what ICE is doing,

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Speaker 1: we're misguided because they're trying to make this country safe

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Speaker 1: for your kids in mind, and on that level, I'm grateful.

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Speaker 1: Kevin mckella, if you disagree, email me that Kevin show

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Speaker 1: at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 9: Let's stick around for more of that Kevin next serving

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Speaker 9: it up with a no drink minimum.

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Speaker 1: It's that Kevin show, all right. Thank you for taking

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Speaker 1: us with you wherever you are. And again thank you

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Speaker 1: to k t I e AM five ninety the answer

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Speaker 1: in southern California. Grateful to be with you folks every

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Speaker 1: single day of the week, and appreciate the fact that

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Speaker 1: the management there has seen fit to bring us to you.

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Speaker 1: Just a little bit of headline news to end the

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Speaker 1: show with the Speaker of the House and the President

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Speaker 1: working together got the House of Representatives to avoid a

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Speaker 1: government shutdown, so they got a funding deal to carry thegether.

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Speaker 1: Will not be another government Shutdown's that's good news for people.

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Speaker 1: I think there was some concern that was going to

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Speaker 1: go into that direction again and nobody wanted it, and

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Speaker 1: good people got together and made it work out. I

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Speaker 1: don't know that it's going to be, you know, meet

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Speaker 1: everyone satisfaction. None of these deals usually do. But at

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Speaker 1: least at least we won't have another shutdown. And I

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Speaker 1: don't know how people do this, but you know, when

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Speaker 1: the Mayor of New York was running for mayor, he

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Speaker 1: promised a whole lot He's delivered on very little of it.

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Speaker 1: Thirteen people have frozen to death in the city on

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Speaker 1: his watch, and he's failing at even just keeping the

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Speaker 1: city basically functioning. There are literally mountains of garbage piling

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Speaker 1: up in different areas, and the sanitation Department. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what the hold up is there. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if it's that they're lacking, you know, decision makers and

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Speaker 1: key places. But it's not going well. And I hope

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Speaker 1: and pray for the City of New York's sake that

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Speaker 1: they're able to figure that out and fix it quick.

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Speaker 1: Calvin mc calls my name. If you want to revisit

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Speaker 1: enjoy the show wherever you are. Mostly commercial free. We

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Speaker 1: have a podcast ad that runs at the beginning of it,

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Speaker 1: I think, but that other than that, there's no more

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Speaker 1: commercial breaks, and it's uh, it's it's I just take

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Speaker 1: it with you. It'll be cool. What what we try

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Speaker 1: to do every day is just give you avenues of

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Speaker 1: thinking on the stories of the day on the issues

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Speaker 1: of the day, and we want you to use that

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Speaker 1: so that you make your life better. The goal is

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Speaker 1: that you have more clarity and a greater ability to

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Speaker 1: navigate the difficulties in life because we've helped you think

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