WEBVTT - Special Friday Conversation: Mark Halperin

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<v Speaker 1>The voice of free speech, the truth delivered common sense

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<v Speaker 1>for the American people.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the Scott Jennings Show.

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<v Speaker 3>James Tallerico in Texas makes appalling comments about race and

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<v Speaker 3>criminal justice. We have the audio and my commentary straight ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>Congressman Ralph Norman of South Carolina is coming by this hour,

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<v Speaker 3>one of two Republicans left in the runoff to replace

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<v Speaker 3>Lindsey Graham on the November ballot.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting conversation ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>And we have breaking new polling out of Michigan on

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<v Speaker 3>both the Senate and gubernatorial races. Our friends at AAARP

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<v Speaker 3>have fresh data. John Hishta is here and you don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to miss that. It's Friday, August the twenty first.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Scott Jennings broadcasting for Salem Man, coming to you

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<v Speaker 3>live from Louisville, Kentucky. On this day in eighteen fifty eight,

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<v Speaker 3>thousands of people poured into Ottawa, Illinois to witness a

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<v Speaker 3>rhetorical confrontation unlike anything America had ever seen. On one

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<v Speaker 3>side stood the powerful incumbent US Senator, a nationally famous

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<v Speaker 3>Democrat known as the Little Giant. On the other, a

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<v Speaker 3>lanky former congressman largely unknown throughout the country there to

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<v Speaker 3>compete for the incumbent seat. It was a campaign debate,

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<v Speaker 3>but the question of foot was much larger. Would slavery

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<v Speaker 3>be allowed to spread into America's western territories. The senator

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<v Speaker 3>argued that the people of each territory should decide the

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<v Speaker 3>issue for themselves. His challenger warned that slavery was morally

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<v Speaker 3>wrong and that a nation divided against itself could not stand.

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<v Speaker 3>The format was grueling. One candidate spoke for an hour,

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<v Speaker 3>the other answered for ninety minutes, and the first then

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<v Speaker 3>return for a thirty minute rebuttal and Ottawa, Illinois, was

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<v Speaker 3>only the beginning. The two men would meet seven times

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<v Speaker 3>across the state, and the incumbent senator would ultimately keep

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<v Speaker 3>his seat that November, but newspapers carried the challenger's words

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<v Speaker 3>across the country, transforming a little known Prairie lawyer into

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<v Speaker 3>a national political figure. Two years later, the men would

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<v Speaker 3>face each other again, this time for the presidency, the

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<v Speaker 3>little giant Stephen A. Douglas versus the lanky lawyer Abraham Lincoln.

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<v Speaker 3>You know how that turned out, And it all started

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<v Speaker 3>with the beginning of the Lincoln Douglas debates. On this day,

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<v Speaker 3>August the twenty first, eighteen fifty eight. You know, questions

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<v Speaker 3>of equal justice under the law have permeated our political

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<v Speaker 3>debates for decades, and today day's Democratic luminaries appear to

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<v Speaker 3>be backtracking. I bring you the story today of James Tallarico,

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<v Speaker 3>the Democrat candidate for the United States Senate in Texas.

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<v Speaker 3>He took to the radio airwaves yesterday to argue that

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<v Speaker 3>you should be afforded different criminal justice outcomes based on

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<v Speaker 3>the color of your skin. Let me repeat, different criminal

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<v Speaker 3>justice outcomes based on the color of your skin. Tall

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<v Speaker 3>Rico was asked to comment on the case of Carmelo Anthony,

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<v Speaker 3>the seventeen year old African American teenager who stabbed to

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<v Speaker 3>death fellow teenager Austin Metcalf at a high school track meet.

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<v Speaker 3>Anthony was sentenced to thirty five years in prison for

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<v Speaker 3>that murder, and hearings are underway as Anthony's new defense

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<v Speaker 3>seeks a retrial. All of this is going on as

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<v Speaker 3>mister tall Rico appears on a popular morning radio show

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<v Speaker 3>called The Breakfast Club. It's extremely influential in the African

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<v Speaker 3>American community. I want you to a listen to this

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<v Speaker 3>exchange as Tallarico is asked about the Carmelo Anthony trial

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<v Speaker 3>Cut seven in Texas.

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<v Speaker 4>We see what happened with Carmelo Anthony, and you said

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<v Speaker 4>it was a tragedy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what did you mean by that?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I've done a lot of work in the state

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<v Speaker 4>House on justice reform, and right now we've got a

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<v Speaker 4>system that doesn't serve all Americans equally. And we know

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<v Speaker 4>that black Texans have been have not gotten the justice

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<v Speaker 4>they deserve in many cases. And you know, I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>an expert on this particular case, but I know that

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<v Speaker 4>there were no black members of the jury. And to me,

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<v Speaker 4>that's the only evidence you need to really prove that

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<v Speaker 4>this system is not working for black Texans.

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<v Speaker 3>This is astonishing. The evidence in the case is not

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<v Speaker 3>really in dispute. Anthony killed meta. This African American kid

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<v Speaker 3>killed a white kid after an argument that attract me.

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<v Speaker 3>Stab him in the heart with a knife, up close

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<v Speaker 3>personal cold blooded murder. But tall Rico looks at this

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<v Speaker 3>case and says, if only there had been some black jurors,

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<v Speaker 3>Carmelo Anthony could have gotten away with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's set up the politics of this.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, Talarico defeated an African American woman named

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<v Speaker 3>Jasmine Crockett in the Democratic primary to win this nomination.

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<v Speaker 3>And now he's doing poorly, very poorly with black Democrats

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<v Speaker 3>in Texas, and he thinks the way to win them

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<v Speaker 3>over is to say, I will literally let you kill

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<v Speaker 3>any white person that you want. This sort of pandering

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<v Speaker 3>is a level of racism that I cannot even begin

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<v Speaker 3>to understand.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get back to Tallarrico's statements.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a civilization destroying view of criminal justice, the

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<v Speaker 3>idea that the color of your skin, of either the

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<v Speaker 3>defendant or a juror should determine the outcome of a

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<v Speaker 3>murder case. Many have asserted that the jury was all white.

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<v Speaker 1>That's false.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the twelve jurors, three were racial minorities, including Asian

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<v Speaker 3>and Indian, eight were women, four were men. Of the

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<v Speaker 3>eighteen total jurors including the alternate, six were minorities. But

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<v Speaker 3>does any of this even matter in a murder case?

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<v Speaker 3>You look at the evidence, testimony, witnesses, the weapon, and

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<v Speaker 3>you ask a jury to make a decision, and that

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<v Speaker 3>decision cannot cannot be well even if he did it.

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<v Speaker 3>We share a skin color, so I should probably let

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<v Speaker 3>this defendant get away with murder. But that's exactly what

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<v Speaker 3>James Tallerco is arguing for here.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine anything more racist?

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<v Speaker 3>Tall Rico thinks that if Carmelo Anthony had faced a

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<v Speaker 3>jury of black people, they would have ignored the evidence,

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<v Speaker 3>which is overwhelming, and let him go. That's what tallar

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<v Speaker 3>Rico thinks of black voters in Texas, that they would

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<v Speaker 3>set aside their duties as citizens and members of the

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<v Speaker 3>community in good standing to excuse a murder based on

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<v Speaker 3>the color of the defendant's skin. This is the literal

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<v Speaker 3>opposite of what so many Black Americans fought so valiantly

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<v Speaker 3>to achieve equal justice.

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<v Speaker 1>Under the law.

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<v Speaker 3>Means no criminal justice outcome is dependent on the color

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<v Speaker 3>of your skin. If a black teenager commits murder and

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<v Speaker 3>the evidence proves it, he is guilty. If a white

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<v Speaker 3>teenager commits murder and the evidence proves it, he is guilty.

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<v Speaker 3>The jury is not asked to balance the cosmic racial

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<v Speaker 3>scales in an individual murder trial. It is asked to

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<v Speaker 3>deliver justice for the victim and to protect the community

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<v Speaker 3>in which it serves. But in tallar Rico's view, a

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<v Speaker 3>black teenager apparently should be able to stab to death

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<v Speaker 3>a white teenager in the name of quote making the

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<v Speaker 3>system work for black people. I would submit that the

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<v Speaker 3>system works for no one when the race of the

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<v Speaker 3>defendant is more important than the evidence in the case.

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<v Speaker 3>And I would submit that tall Rico has strange, strange,

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<v Speaker 3>even racist, one could argue views about the character of

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<v Speaker 3>black Texans who wind up on juries. Does he really

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<v Speaker 3>believe that black Texans would look beyond evidence and the

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<v Speaker 3>law to permit murder simply because the defendant was also black?

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<v Speaker 3>Does he realize what he is saying about the character

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<v Speaker 3>of his fellow Texans, his fellow Americans. Now, we brought

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<v Speaker 3>you the story earlier this week of Taal Rico believing

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<v Speaker 3>that black Americans are too stupid to figure out how

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<v Speaker 3>to use an ID to vote. Now he apparently thinks

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<v Speaker 3>Black Americans are of such low character that they would

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<v Speaker 3>openly permit murder in their communities because well, I guess

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<v Speaker 3>that's what he thinks their top priorities are for their neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 3>I am flabbergasted by this man, and I sense that

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<v Speaker 3>he has no idea, none whatsoever, what these racist ideas

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<v Speaker 3>sound like coming out of his silly, unseerious pandering mouth.

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<v Speaker 3>It is Friday, August, the twenty first, Common Sense for

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<v Speaker 3>the American people. By the way, Coming up in about

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<v Speaker 3>ten minutes, we have Ralph Norman of South Carolina here.

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<v Speaker 3>He's one of the two remaining Republicans vying to replace

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<v Speaker 3>Lindsey Graham on the November Senate ballot. The other is

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<v Speaker 3>Darlene Graham, Lindsey Graham's sister. She has the President's endorsement.

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<v Speaker 3>But Ralph Norman finished second in that runoff. He's a congressman.

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<v Speaker 3>He ran for governor this year. Some people think he

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<v Speaker 3>may actually be ahead in that campaign. It's close and

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<v Speaker 3>he's coming by. He's being outspent, and the President's working

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<v Speaker 3>for his opponent, but Ralph's hanging in there. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know where you all stand on this, but I'm looking

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<v Speaker 3>forward to talking to Ralph. I've known Ralph Norman for

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<v Speaker 3>twenty years and I'm kind of fascinated by his journey.

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<v Speaker 3>So we'll have that conversation in a minute. I remain,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, flabbergasted at this James Talerico story. We

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<v Speaker 3>just brought you the idea that a candidate for the

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<v Speaker 3>United States Senate would argue that you perhaps should get

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<v Speaker 3>away with murder because of the color of your skin,

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<v Speaker 3>or that a juror might find you guilty or not

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<v Speaker 3>guilty based on the color of your skin. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>tall Rico's clearly implying in his comments that if we

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<v Speaker 3>could just get some black jurors, you guys could get

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<v Speaker 3>away with murder. It is so racist what he is saying.

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<v Speaker 3>He has this need to pander, and it leads to

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<v Speaker 3>these appallingly racist statements. Earlier, he was saying, effectively that

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<v Speaker 3>black voters are too dumb to figure out how to

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<v Speaker 3>use an ID to vote.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he's saying.

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<v Speaker 3>Black jurors will let you get away with murder as

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<v Speaker 3>long as you're black. Does he not understand what he

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<v Speaker 3>is saying about the intelligence and the character of these

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<v Speaker 3>voters that he.

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<v Speaker 1>Seeks to persuade. It's insulting Black Texans.

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<v Speaker 3>Black Americans do not need tallar Rico or any other

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<v Speaker 3>Democrat to grant them permission to disregard the law to

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<v Speaker 3>commit violence and murder. They need safe neighborhoods, They need

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<v Speaker 3>prosecutors who prosecute They need juries who honestly examine evidence

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<v Speaker 3>and hold criminals accountable. And they need political leaders who

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<v Speaker 3>believe they possess the same judgment, integrity, and sense of

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<v Speaker 3>civic responsibility as any other American.

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<v Speaker 1>All men are created equal.

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<v Speaker 3>All Americans deserve equal justice under the law. There's a

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<v Speaker 3>reason that Lady Justice wears a blindfold. But with this

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<v Speaker 3>obscene pandering, tall Rico thinks he is flattering Black voters,

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<v Speaker 3>He's actually insulting them. He is reducing responsible citizens down

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<v Speaker 3>to racial partisans who cannot or will not follow the

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<v Speaker 3>evidence or the law when another, the human being, has

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<v Speaker 3>been murdered.

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<v Speaker 1>It is utterly disqualifying for high office. Unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 3>It's close race in Texas. I don't know what's going

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<v Speaker 3>to happen. By the way, close race down there another

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<v Speaker 3>story I want to bring you. Jill Biden has sat

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<v Speaker 3>down for a podcast interview, and in it she raised

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<v Speaker 3>or affirmed that at least the possibility exists that Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 1>Was roofed.

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<v Speaker 3>Before that fateful debate against Trump in the summer of

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<v Speaker 3>twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's hear a little audio from the debate.

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<v Speaker 10>Guys, play that, and I'm going to continue to move

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<v Speaker 10>until we get the total band on, the total initiative

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<v Speaker 10>relative to what we're going to do with more border

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<v Speaker 10>patrol and more asymnum officers.

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump, I really don't know what he said at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of this. I don't think he knows what

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<v Speaker 1>he said either.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, you remember Biden was absolutely I don't even know

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<v Speaker 3>how to describe it now. I mean, you remember what happened, Well,

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<v Speaker 3>listen to Jill Biden talking about it now cut Ford.

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<v Speaker 11>Still to this day, you don't have a gut instinct

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<v Speaker 11>on what was that moment? No, I mean, there's all

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<v Speaker 11>kinds of there is. You know, he had been traveling.

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<v Speaker 11>I know he was tired, he didn't feel well that

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<v Speaker 11>day when I saw him, But there was nothing definitive

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<v Speaker 11>that I could point to. And I had been on

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<v Speaker 11>the road for two weeks up until that moment, so

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<v Speaker 11>I wasn't with him. I didn't see him days before,

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<v Speaker 11>weeks before. I saw him maybe one hour before.

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<v Speaker 4>And there's no way anyone could, of God forbid, laced

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<v Speaker 4>his drink.

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<v Speaker 1>Or knows who knows.

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows?

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<v Speaker 3>Listen to that? Could anyone have laced Joe Biden's drink?

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<v Speaker 3>The President of the United States, Jill Biden says, Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, doctor. Jill Biden says, who knows?

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<v Speaker 6>What do you mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows?

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<v Speaker 3>This man is surrounded by the Secret Service, and you're

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<v Speaker 3>saying somebody could a roofied Joe Biden?

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<v Speaker 1>Who knows? I guess we'll never know. Do you know

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<v Speaker 1>how insane this sounds?

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<v Speaker 3>These Biden's were the most irresponsible people to ever hold

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<v Speaker 3>this office. Listen to them now, heck, listen to them. Then,

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<v Speaker 3>all right, we got to take a break. When we

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<v Speaker 3>come back, Ralph Norman is here South Carolina politics.

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<v Speaker 1>It's wild stay with us.

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<v Speaker 5>No for America's favorite pundit, it's Scott Jennings.

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<v Speaker 3>In about thirty seconds, we bring Congressman Ralph Norman to

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<v Speaker 3>the Scott Jennings Show. He's on the ballot in South Carolina,

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<v Speaker 3>one of two Republicans remaining buying to replace the late

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<v Speaker 3>Senator Lindsey Graham on the November ballot. The other is

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<v Speaker 3>Darlene Graham, Lindsey Graham's sister. It is quite a strange

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<v Speaker 3>situation in South Carolina. But Ralph Norman is one of

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<v Speaker 3>the conservatives that you know and have known for many

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<v Speaker 3>years who's in the final two, and I want to

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<v Speaker 3>have a conversation with him about how this campaign is

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<v Speaker 3>unfolded in just a moment. First, I do want to

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<v Speaker 3>give you a message, and that is this, For nearly

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<v Speaker 3>two hundred and fifty years, America's founding principles have given

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<v Speaker 3>people the freedom to dream big, take risks, and build

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<v Speaker 3>something of their own. And that spirit is alive in

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<v Speaker 3>American small business today. This month, our friends at Americans

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<v Speaker 3>for Prosperity are celebrating the entrepreneurs who took a chance,

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<v Speaker 3>That's the next iteration in this All right, The primary

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<v Speaker 3>season is almost sorted out in America, but not quite

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<v Speaker 3>yet in South Carolina, where as you know, Senator Lindsay

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<v Speaker 3>Graham passed away several weeks ago and they had an

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<v Speaker 3>initial election to replace him, and it got down to

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<v Speaker 3>a runoff between Darlene Graham, who was appointed to the

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<v Speaker 3>US Senate by South Carolina's governor and then she decided

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<v Speaker 3>to run for the full term, and Ralph Norman, US Congressman.

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<v Speaker 3>He just ran for governor earlier this year in that

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<v Speaker 3>Republican primary. He's now in the Senate race. Let's hear

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<v Speaker 3>what Ralph Norman is telling the people of South Carolina.

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<v Speaker 1>Cut one.

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<v Speaker 8>I spent my career building a business, but I couldn't

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<v Speaker 8>stand by while Washington spent money it didn't have. So

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<v Speaker 8>I got in the fight and I never forgot who

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<v Speaker 8>elected me. This election is about the America we pass

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<v Speaker 8>on to your family.

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<v Speaker 2>Mind.

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<v Speaker 8>We inherited freedom, and that's our turn to defend it,

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<v Speaker 8>to strengthen it, and to leave America stronger than we

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<v Speaker 8>found it. You shouldn't have to guess where your next

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<v Speaker 8>senator stands with me.

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<v Speaker 1>You already know.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm Ralph Norman, and I approved this message.

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<v Speaker 3>And joining us live to discuss this campaign is Ralph Norman, Congressman.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for joining us here on the Scott Jenning Show.

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<v Speaker 12>Well glad to be with you, Scott.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm glad to hear your voice today, and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>interested in this campaign. It's one of the most unusual situations. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>our friend Lindsey Graham. His passing shocked Washington. I know

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<v Speaker 3>it shocked you, and this race to replace him is

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<v Speaker 3>unfolded in a very strange situation. The Senator's sister was

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<v Speaker 3>appointed as a caretaker for the rest of this term,

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<v Speaker 3>but that ends in January, and Senator Graham was facing

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<v Speaker 3>election in November for a new six year term.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where you come in.

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<v Speaker 3>A bunch of Republicans ran for his nomination and it

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<v Speaker 3>got down to a final two between Darlene Graham and

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<v Speaker 3>now you. President Trump is with Darlene Graham. You've been

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<v Speaker 3>an ally of President Trump on many issues over the

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<v Speaker 3>years as well. I want to start there. How is

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<v Speaker 3>all that sitting with the voters of South Carolina? Is

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<v Speaker 3>that going to be determinative or can you overcome it?

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<v Speaker 12>Well? I think well, first of all, what President Trump

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<v Speaker 12>has done for this country is something I'll always be

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<v Speaker 12>grateful for. With a Kamala Harris, had she won, this

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<v Speaker 12>country would not be able to have survived. And he's

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<v Speaker 12>the one who did it. And I'll always be honored

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<v Speaker 12>to serve with him and to buck him, which I've done.

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<v Speaker 12>Now I ask him for the for his endorsement, which

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<v Speaker 12>is good for any candidate in particularly South Carolina. We're

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<v Speaker 12>a red state, going to stay at red state hopefully.

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<v Speaker 12>But that being said, the people of South Carolina are

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<v Speaker 12>going to pick the next senator and they're engaged. I

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<v Speaker 12>think from early voting it's we've got to increase turnout

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<v Speaker 12>in good areas. So but he'll be He's coming down

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<v Speaker 12>and we've got a big rally tonight and Anderson that

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<v Speaker 12>we're going to attend. But you know, it's all so

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<v Speaker 12>unfortunate that Lindsey died to you know, it's unconventional that

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<v Speaker 12>we're facing this at this point. It was such a

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<v Speaker 12>short runway to campaign and take our message to the voters.

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<v Speaker 3>You did have a debate Congressman the other night, and

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<v Speaker 3>this of course has made the national political news this week.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a question about foreign policy that was raised

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<v Speaker 3>in the debate, and Darlene Graham gave an answer that frankly,

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<v Speaker 3>has ricochet around the political world.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's take a listen to that and cut number three.

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<v Speaker 13>All ur Taiwan and the South China see National Security

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<v Speaker 13>issues for the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>And if so, lie or how.

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<v Speaker 13>I'm just going to be honest here. I'm not on

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<v Speaker 13>national security that I'm not that informed on national security.

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<v Speaker 13>So but I do support the military. My brother was

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<v Speaker 13>in the Air Force for thirty three years, so I

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<v Speaker 13>will do everything I can to support the military. My

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<v Speaker 13>dad was in the Army. I'm not a polished politician

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<v Speaker 13>up here. National security is not my thing, not my

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<v Speaker 13>area of expertise, but I do support the military.

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<v Speaker 1>Congressman, how do you respond to that?

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<v Speaker 3>And is foreign policy the top issue for voters in

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<v Speaker 3>this election? Does she have a point that maybe it's

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<v Speaker 3>not that vital for the next senator from South Carolina

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<v Speaker 3>to know that much about this stuff.

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<v Speaker 12>Anybody serving and I don't care what office it is,

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<v Speaker 12>national security is upmost concerned. I mean, it's sad that

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<v Speaker 12>you and I know she would take it back if

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<v Speaker 12>she could, but you know, being up there with her, Scott,

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<v Speaker 12>she just didn't want to be there, you could tell that.

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<v Speaker 12>But she owes it to the voters in South Carolina

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<v Speaker 12>to get under the lights, to take any all questions.

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<v Speaker 12>And that one she just as you could hear from

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<v Speaker 12>the crowd, is a big gasp, And rightfully so. So

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<v Speaker 12>it's she really hadn't clarified it since then, and you

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<v Speaker 12>know it's she runs her own campaign though, and she

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<v Speaker 12>has her own advisors.

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<v Speaker 4>And I.

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<v Speaker 12>Was shocked as well when I was we were.

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<v Speaker 3>Up there, Congressman, how would your foreign policy views be

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<v Speaker 3>similar or different from Lindsay Graham's?

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously that was his major area of focus.

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<v Speaker 3>He was one of the biggest hawks and national security

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<v Speaker 3>focus senators in Washington. Would you be similar or do

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<v Speaker 3>you have different ideas about the shape you would put

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<v Speaker 3>on the office.

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<v Speaker 12>What's different between Lindsay and I is I mean, as

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<v Speaker 12>we found out two days ago, the crisis that we're

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<v Speaker 12>facing in this country, as I did, and I don't

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<v Speaker 12>believe in endless wars. I just don't. We can't afford

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<v Speaker 12>it now. I do believe in peace through strengths. I

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<v Speaker 12>do support the president what he did in Iran. That

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<v Speaker 12>was a They've been at war with US for forty

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<v Speaker 12>seven years and had he not taken him out, we

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<v Speaker 12>would have paid a tremendous price, and if they got

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<v Speaker 12>a nuclear weapon. That being said, you know, we've got

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<v Speaker 12>to come to a conclusion with this war. And I

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<v Speaker 12>think he will, but we've got to get our own

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<v Speaker 12>financial health back into focus and actually do something about it.

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<v Speaker 12>And the message he sent by the actions that he

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<v Speaker 12>took that the Obama didn't take, Biden didn't take. He

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<v Speaker 12>took strong action which will keep us out of wars

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<v Speaker 12>in the future. But we're going to build up our military,

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<v Speaker 12>We're will fund it, but we've got to get our

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<v Speaker 12>financial house in order. And I just that's the difference

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<v Speaker 12>that I think I will bring to the Senate, which

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<v Speaker 12>it's got As you know, it's a body that's where

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<v Speaker 12>good bills go to die. It doesn't matter whether it's

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<v Speaker 12>national security that it faces. The Senate. It's the graveyard

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<v Speaker 12>for good bills, and the Save Act is a perfect

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<v Speaker 12>example of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me ask you about the operations of the Senate

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<v Speaker 3>because this has emerged as an issue. President Trump has

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<v Speaker 3>called on the Senate and he believed this in his

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<v Speaker 3>first term as well. He's called on Senate Republicans to

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<v Speaker 3>eliminate the filibuster. Now, Senator Graham was a supporter of

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<v Speaker 3>the philibuster. President Trump and a few other senators now

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<v Speaker 3>say we should get rid of it. Where do you

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<v Speaker 3>stand on that issue?

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<v Speaker 12>You know, what's changed with the Democrats, we're getting no

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<v Speaker 12>help on anything they pose the Save Act, and the

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<v Speaker 12>fact is that, you know what I will do is

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<v Speaker 12>go to Sena to foom and say soon this is

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<v Speaker 12>a national security one, the security of our elections and

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<v Speaker 12>having people know that they're safe and secure. But how

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<v Speaker 12>can we make this happen? The Save Actor is pretty simple,

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<v Speaker 12>just verifying that you're an American citizen. And if it's

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<v Speaker 12>eliminate the philibuster, we do it. If it's a walk

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<v Speaker 12>in filibuster, we do it. If a challenge of the

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<v Speaker 12>parliamentary we do it. All that to say is to

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<v Speaker 12>just say we don't have the votes, Scott. We've got

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<v Speaker 12>a fifty three to forty seven majority, we control all

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<v Speaker 12>three branches of government. Now's the time to move on it.

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<v Speaker 12>And if that doesn't happen, as I would have been

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<v Speaker 12>pretty clear, we will. I'll do what it takes to

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<v Speaker 12>replace him or whoever it takes to make sure this

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<v Speaker 12>happens and gets through the Senate. And look at all

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<v Speaker 12>the American First agenda that we got to deal with.

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<v Speaker 12>But this bill is paramount and we shouldn't be voting

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<v Speaker 12>on anything but that. And I will have press conferences

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<v Speaker 12>with those who are conservative and have endorsed me, Rick Scott,

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<v Speaker 12>Mike Lee, Ted Cruz is another big proponent of the

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<v Speaker 12>same act, and so we have to move on it.

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<v Speaker 12>So I'm a big proponent of doing away with it,

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<v Speaker 12>and the Democrats are will do that anyway if and

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<v Speaker 12>when they get back in power in the Senate.

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<v Speaker 3>Ed voicer hearing is Congressman Ralph Norman of the Great

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<v Speaker 3>State of South Carolina. He's running for the United States Senate,

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<v Speaker 3>one of two Republicans left in the race. Now, Congressman,

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<v Speaker 3>if you get this nomination as a Republican, you'll be

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<v Speaker 3>going on to face a Democrat in the fall. Her

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<v Speaker 3>name is Annie Andrews. I've seen her on a TV

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<v Speaker 3>little bit. She's out on the media circuit a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>She is firmly rejecting, at least in some of the

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<v Speaker 3>media stuff. I've seen this idea that Democrats need to

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<v Speaker 3>turn into or transform into socialists. But I'm interested in

0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:15.320
<v Speaker 3>your view of this overall debate, which to me, nationally

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<v Speaker 3>is are we going to be a socialist country or not?

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<v Speaker 3>She seems to be trying to walk away from that.

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<v Speaker 3>Will you be able to nationalize this race? In that

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<v Speaker 3>way come November, and how would you approach a Democrat

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<v Speaker 3>in South Carolina who's trying, at least rhetorically to be

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<v Speaker 3>more moderate than some of these other socialists we've seen

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<v Speaker 3>in other places.

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<v Speaker 9>It is a.

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<v Speaker 12>Previous coming attraction, Scott. She wi a campaign as a moderate,

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<v Speaker 12>like a lot of them do, and then they morph

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<v Speaker 12>into a what their party has become, which is a

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<v Speaker 12>socialist Marxist communist party. I mean, you look what's happened

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<v Speaker 12>in New York, California, the news, what's going to happen

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<v Speaker 12>to Virginia. And so if you look at her background,

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<v Speaker 12>I mean, she's pro abortion, she's protrans, she's pro surgery

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<v Speaker 12>on our young people. She represents what the Democratic Party

0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:07.000
<v Speaker 12>has turned into. And so they're putting the money into

0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:12.120
<v Speaker 12>my opponent, the money that is backs Kamala Harris, the

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:15.400
<v Speaker 12>money that backs move on dot org, and they're gonna

0:29:15.400 --> 0:29:18.600
<v Speaker 12>focus on this race. They smell blood in the water.

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<v Speaker 12>Pete Buddhaje Edge is coming down this weekend, and in

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<v Speaker 12>their minds, they've got an opportunity to hear, well, it's

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<v Speaker 12>not going to happen. Uh we will, we will wind,

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<v Speaker 12>I will beat doctor Andrews, and when we show her

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<v Speaker 12>what her record is and what she supports, which is

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<v Speaker 12>not South Carolina values.

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<v Speaker 3>Congressman Ralph Norman, longtime member of the House of Representatives,

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<v Speaker 3>member of the House Freedom Caucus, one of your hallmarks, Congressmen,

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<v Speaker 3>is being a fiscal conservative. I assume that is coming

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<v Speaker 3>up out on the campaign trail.

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<v Speaker 1>We wish you luck.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a It is a strange, unconventional, wild time in

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<v Speaker 3>South Carolina politics. And we're grateful for you time today.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for coming on the show.

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<v Speaker 12>Okay, jeh, thank you us.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Ralph, take care of my friend.

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<v Speaker 3>When we come back, brand new polling out of Michigan.

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<v Speaker 3>It's breaking news with the AARPS John Hishta after this, Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>welcome back to the Scott Jennings Show, rounding out the

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<v Speaker 3>hour with some breaking political news. You know, one of

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<v Speaker 3>the biggest and most important states in this midterm is Michigan.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a huge Senate race, there's a huge governor's race,

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<v Speaker 3>and with some new polling on Michigan, our friend John

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<v Speaker 3>Hishta from the AAARP is here and they've got this

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<v Speaker 3>data fresh out of the field. John, you shared last

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<v Speaker 3>month with us, you're Georgia data, now you're in Michigan.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the top line? What do people need to know.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, first of all, it's a dead heat in the

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<v Speaker 2>Senate race and the Democrat nominee and the governor's.

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<v Speaker 6>Race is up by a few points.

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<v Speaker 2>At the end of the day, both races are tight

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<v Speaker 2>and will continue to be tight.

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<v Speaker 6>And what's interesting is seniors.

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<v Speaker 2>Particularly those fifty plus, are extremely motivated to vote in

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<v Speaker 2>this election, much more so than younger voters. I think

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<v Speaker 2>the difference is fifteen points in terms of extremely motivated

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<v Speaker 2>to vote between those fifty plus. It even gets larger

0:32:25.840 --> 0:32:28.520
<v Speaker 2>when you look at the sixty five plus who are

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<v Speaker 2>motivated to vote.

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<v Speaker 6>The difference is almost eighteen points there.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it would be incumbent upon the candidates and

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<v Speaker 2>both of those races to focus on those voters who

0:32:38.520 --> 0:32:40.360
<v Speaker 2>we know are going to show up at the polls.

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<v Speaker 2>And as you know Scott and off year elections, fifty

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<v Speaker 2>plus voters make up the majority of those who show

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<v Speaker 2>up at the polls and.

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<v Speaker 6>Vote, and so they're going to be a key voting

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<v Speaker 6>block this year as well.

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<v Speaker 3>John, let me go back over the top news here

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<v Speaker 3>in the governor's race, you've got Jocelyn Benson the Democrat,

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<v Speaker 3>ahead of John James, the Republican, forty nine to forty five,

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<v Speaker 3>and in the Senate race, you've got a virtual dead heat.

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<v Speaker 3>Abdul l Sied sits at forty eight and Mike Rodgers,

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<v Speaker 3>the Republican, sits at forty seven. Now the top lines

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<v Speaker 3>for voters ages fifty and up are a little different.

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<v Speaker 3>John James leads Benson for governor by a point among

0:33:17.160 --> 0:33:20.640
<v Speaker 3>fifty plus voters, and Mike Rodgers has a nine point

0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:24.800
<v Speaker 3>lead over Abdul Lsied among voters fifty plus. But what

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<v Speaker 3>I want to talk about is what you just said

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<v Speaker 3>at the end there the motivation. Your polling finds that

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<v Speaker 3>older voters are more motivated to participate in the election.

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<v Speaker 1>Do I have that right?

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<v Speaker 6>That is correct by a large amount.

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<v Speaker 2>And so the other thing to keep in mind is that,

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<v Speaker 2>as you know, Scott, in these races which are extremely tight,

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<v Speaker 2>the candidates need to focus on those voters who are

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<v Speaker 2>still up for grabs, and in this case, you have

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<v Speaker 2>a significant slice of the fifty plus somewhere in the

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<v Speaker 2>neighborhood of ten to.

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<v Speaker 6>Fourteen percent who are still on the side and swing voters.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are going to be the key for both candidates

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<v Speaker 2>and both races to go after.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, John, History with the aaarp as our guest,

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<v Speaker 3>I have to ask, then, if you've got swing voters

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<v Speaker 3>in that senior crowd, if you were running these races,

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<v Speaker 3>what issues does the data tell you they need to

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<v Speaker 3>look at and talk to these voters about them.

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<v Speaker 2>I would look at it through the prism of affordability.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's a little different when you get.

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<v Speaker 6>To older age folks.

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<v Speaker 2>And so the sixty five plus in particular, to them,

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<v Speaker 2>social security is an affordability issue. They rely on it,

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<v Speaker 2>they need it, and they want to make sure they

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<v Speaker 2>have it.

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<v Speaker 6>And so if I was advising candidates and.

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<v Speaker 2>The Senate race, I would definitely focus on social security, Medicare,

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<v Speaker 2>and healthcare costs because that is something that's very very

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<v Speaker 2>important to them beyond just the everyday affordability costs. And

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<v Speaker 2>if I was advising folks for governor, it would be

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<v Speaker 2>the same thing, focus on affordability.

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<v Speaker 3>John, let me ask you a question about medicare, because

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<v Speaker 3>obviously this is important to vote sixty five plus. Abdul

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<v Speaker 3>lsied in the center race, I mean the centerpiece of

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<v Speaker 3>his campaign, one of them is Medicare for all. How

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<v Speaker 3>do senior voters who rely on medicare view the idea

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<v Speaker 3>of expanding that program to everybody. Is that something they welcome?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that something that they're worried about? How would you

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<v Speaker 3>recommend our audience understand Medicare for All in light of

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<v Speaker 3>the senior voters here relying on Medicare as it currently exists.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think that it remains to be seen what

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<v Speaker 2>the details are for that Medicare for All means a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of things to a lot of different people. But

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm on Medicare, I want to make sure that

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<v Speaker 2>it is run right and that I get the best

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<v Speaker 2>bang for my buck to make sure that my healthcare

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<v Speaker 2>has taken care of.

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<v Speaker 6>So if I was advising a candidate to.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk about Medicare, I would talk about things like lowering

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<v Speaker 2>prescription drug costs, things like making sure you have access

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<v Speaker 2>to doctors and so on and so Again, I think

0:36:00.680 --> 0:36:03.719
<v Speaker 2>is a catchphrase that means a lot to a lot

0:36:03.760 --> 0:36:06.480
<v Speaker 2>of different people. But if I was advising candidate to

0:36:06.520 --> 0:36:09.400
<v Speaker 2>talk about Medicare, particularly as it relates to seniors, I

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<v Speaker 2>would focus on what Medicare should be for those who

0:36:13.440 --> 0:36:16.600
<v Speaker 2>have earned it, much like Social Security, because.

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<v Speaker 6>They've paid into it over the course of their working lives.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, That Voisher hearing today John Hishta with the

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<v Speaker 3>AARP and he brings us the breaking news. AARP has

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<v Speaker 3>released its brand new poll in Michigan. We have a

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<v Speaker 3>dead heat in the Senate race, a dead heat, and

0:36:32.600 --> 0:36:35.080
<v Speaker 3>we have Democrats with a small advantage in the race

0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:38.440
<v Speaker 3>for governor. There's a lot of interest in senior voters.

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<v Speaker 3>They are far more student voting than younger voters. There's

0:36:41.200 --> 0:36:44.080
<v Speaker 3>a lot of swing voters in that crowd. And AARP

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<v Speaker 3>has you covered on the issues that they care about.

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<v Speaker 3>John Hisshta, thank you for being here. We take a

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<v Speaker 3>break and when we come back, Interview of the Week

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<v Speaker 3>with Mark Helper and legendary political journalists on the other side.

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<v Speaker 1>Right after this, Welcome.

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<v Speaker 3>Back to the show, Friday, August the twenty first. Grateful

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<v Speaker 3>for your tuning in today to common sense for the

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<v Speaker 3>American people. And this is a special edition of the

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<v Speaker 3>Scott Jennings Show. We're going to try something new today.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to take the second hour of the show

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<v Speaker 3>and offer a full exploration of someone in our politics

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<v Speaker 3>or our culture who I think is interesting and making

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<v Speaker 3>a difference. And our first subject in this new series

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<v Speaker 3>is Mark Halprin, who is a journalist, political commentator, author,

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's one of the most interesting political commentary

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<v Speaker 1>Mark is on the leading edge.

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<v Speaker 3>Of how the business of journalism and commentary is changing,

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<v Speaker 3>last twenty six years, Mark Halpren often knows what is

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<v Speaker 3>happening or is going to happen in politics before every

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<v Speaker 3>does it, but somehow you know it's Mark Alpern.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Scott Chenning Show.

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<v Speaker 9>Scott, honored to be here, humbled by your kind words,

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<v Speaker 9>and looking forward to being your guinea pig for the hour.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we're going to hop on the guinea pig wheel

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<v Speaker 3>here together and see how it works. I want to

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<v Speaker 3>start with your background. You've been around a long time,

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<v Speaker 3>but let's go to the beginning. Where did your interest

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<v Speaker 3>in politics and journalism actually start.

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<v Speaker 9>I grew up in Washington, d C. My dad has

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<v Speaker 9>had an extraordinary career. He's working on his memoirs now.

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<v Speaker 9>Came to Washington in the Johnson administration, worked at the Pentagon,

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<v Speaker 9>then switched right over to the Nixon administration, where he

0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:42.480
<v Speaker 9>was hired by Henry Kissinger, with whom he taught at

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<v Speaker 9>Harvard and has never left Washington.

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<v Speaker 7>So my hometown paper was the Washington Post.

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<v Speaker 9>And family friends were journalists and people in politics and government.

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<v Speaker 9>And I believed when I was a young person what

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<v Speaker 9>has animated my career, which is I have a fascination

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<v Speaker 9>with America, and the best way to understand America to

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<v Speaker 9>me is through the prism of our leaders, our elections,

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<v Speaker 9>the voters of the country. And so I just grew

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<v Speaker 9>up with that mentality. Again a bit of a paradox.

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<v Speaker 9>I grew up literally, I'm living growing up about a

0:39:14.880 --> 0:39:19.000
<v Speaker 9>mile outside the Beltway. But my mentality for my childhood

0:39:19.000 --> 0:39:21.120
<v Speaker 9>and for my career was to try to understand the

0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:22.280
<v Speaker 9>whole country and the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, Mark, you joined ABC News in nineteen eighty eight,

0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:31.960
<v Speaker 3>and you eventually became ABC's political director. You created this

0:39:32.120 --> 0:39:35.399
<v Speaker 3>product called the Note, which I can tell you from

0:39:35.440 --> 0:39:38.320
<v Speaker 3>having been a political operative during those years, was required

0:39:38.560 --> 0:39:40.880
<v Speaker 3>reading in political circles.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to ask you what is it that you.

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<v Speaker 3>Understood then and what you understand now about the political

0:39:49.000 --> 0:39:53.759
<v Speaker 3>media ecosystem that leads you to developing these products that

0:39:54.000 --> 0:39:55.680
<v Speaker 3>are a little bit ahead of their time as it

0:39:55.719 --> 0:40:00.719
<v Speaker 3>relates to distributing this political information and commentary to the American.

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<v Speaker 7>People appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 9>I think there's three things that I've tried to combine

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<v Speaker 9>in my career that make me a little bit different

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<v Speaker 9>than some others. Number One, be a traditional world class journalist,

0:40:12.719 --> 0:40:16.120
<v Speaker 9>or at least aspire to be by doing all the basics,

0:40:16.560 --> 0:40:21.720
<v Speaker 9>treating people with respect, carefully reporting stories, producing a product

0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:25.040
<v Speaker 9>that's both information that's important and interesting. So number one

0:40:25.280 --> 0:40:28.920
<v Speaker 9>is understanding the journalism. Number two is understanding the business.

0:40:29.280 --> 0:40:30.799
<v Speaker 9>As you know Scott from hanging out with a lot

0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:33.120
<v Speaker 9>of journalists. Most of them, if you ask them about

0:40:33.520 --> 0:40:35.680
<v Speaker 9>where does your company make money or how does your

0:40:35.680 --> 0:40:37.920
<v Speaker 9>company plan to make money next year, they have no

0:40:38.000 --> 0:40:38.640
<v Speaker 9>interest in that.

0:40:38.640 --> 0:40:39.480
<v Speaker 7>No understanding of that.

0:40:39.520 --> 0:40:41.680
<v Speaker 9>But I've been interested in that whether I've been in

0:40:41.719 --> 0:40:44.160
<v Speaker 9>old legacy media or new media. And then finally, and

0:40:44.239 --> 0:40:46.560
<v Speaker 9>I think this may be the thing that speaks to

0:40:47.360 --> 0:40:51.520
<v Speaker 9>my introduction of new products throughout my career is technology. Again,

0:40:51.560 --> 0:40:54.480
<v Speaker 9>a lot of journalists don't think about distribution, they don't

0:40:54.480 --> 0:40:58.000
<v Speaker 9>think about promotion. But I've spent my career no matter

0:40:58.040 --> 0:41:01.200
<v Speaker 9>what my job was thinking about those things. Finding journalism,

0:41:01.239 --> 0:41:04.400
<v Speaker 9>business and technology, I think is a extent I've had

0:41:04.440 --> 0:41:07.440
<v Speaker 9>a success. I think it's been the unusual, a combination

0:41:07.560 --> 0:41:09.439
<v Speaker 9>of thinking about and trying to excel at all three.

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<v Speaker 3>At Voischer hearing on the Scott Jennings Show, journalist Mark

0:41:13.880 --> 0:41:18.400
<v Speaker 3>Halper and Mark you over many many cycles, covered candidates,

0:41:18.400 --> 0:41:22.040
<v Speaker 3>You covered presidents. She covered campaigns at the highest level

0:41:22.040 --> 0:41:25.000
<v Speaker 3>of American politics. I want to ask if there was

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<v Speaker 3>ever a moment when you realized that you had sort

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<v Speaker 3>of transitioned from covering the political establishment to becoming part

0:41:33.600 --> 0:41:36.000
<v Speaker 3>of it, because I think there for a while, and

0:41:36.040 --> 0:41:41.600
<v Speaker 3>I think even now you're very much fixed as one

0:41:41.600 --> 0:41:44.200
<v Speaker 3>of the most well known parts of what most average

0:41:44.200 --> 0:41:47.280
<v Speaker 3>people would call the political establishment in this country.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, I made references earlier when I said talking about

0:41:52.200 --> 0:41:55.800
<v Speaker 9>growing up in the DC area, I grew up in Washington.

0:41:55.840 --> 0:41:59.520
<v Speaker 9>I've lived in Manhattan almost my entire adult life, and

0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:02.680
<v Speaker 9>I went to Harvard College Harvard University. That makes me

0:42:02.719 --> 0:42:05.479
<v Speaker 9>a charter member of the establishment. But I've also covered

0:42:05.520 --> 0:42:09.040
<v Speaker 9>politics in forty nine of the fifty states, and I

0:42:09.080 --> 0:42:12.880
<v Speaker 9>covered President Trump in twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen rallies

0:42:12.920 --> 0:42:15.840
<v Speaker 9>and talked to voters in more than thirty states.

0:42:16.680 --> 0:42:17.399
<v Speaker 7>And I think that.

0:42:18.920 --> 0:42:21.040
<v Speaker 9>Again, to the extent I've had success in my career,

0:42:21.400 --> 0:42:25.240
<v Speaker 9>I understand the establishment pretty well, and guilty is charged Scott.

0:42:26.520 --> 0:42:28.920
<v Speaker 9>There's some hallmarks on me that would suggest, yeah, that

0:42:28.920 --> 0:42:31.880
<v Speaker 9>guy's in the establishment. But I can talk to anybody.

0:42:32.000 --> 0:42:35.359
<v Speaker 9>I can go anywhere. I think I understand rural main

0:42:35.480 --> 0:42:39.480
<v Speaker 9>I think I understand Chicago. I think I understand Elco,

0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:43.680
<v Speaker 9>and I think I understand El Paso. I mean, it's

0:42:43.680 --> 0:42:46.480
<v Speaker 9>not that hard. Americans are pretty open people. They're pretty

0:42:46.480 --> 0:42:50.200
<v Speaker 9>welcoming people. So yeah, I'm a member of the establishment

0:42:50.560 --> 0:42:53.840
<v Speaker 9>by some standards. But I've spent my career, and I

0:42:53.840 --> 0:42:56.000
<v Speaker 9>think this is as much as anything I've done in

0:42:56.040 --> 0:42:59.439
<v Speaker 9>my career to excel and differentiate. I've spent my career

0:42:59.520 --> 0:43:03.759
<v Speaker 9>traveling Erica, talking to people, not necessarily political operatives, although

0:43:03.800 --> 0:43:05.920
<v Speaker 9>I've talked to plenty of those, but talking to people

0:43:05.920 --> 0:43:06.760
<v Speaker 9>throughout the country.

0:43:07.440 --> 0:43:08.640
<v Speaker 7>I did a thing in New.

0:43:08.640 --> 0:43:13.120
<v Speaker 9>Orleans for the Circus in twenty sixteen or twenty seventeen.

0:43:13.160 --> 0:43:16.880
<v Speaker 9>I guess talking to some convention, some people from a

0:43:17.040 --> 0:43:21.400
<v Speaker 9>CPA convention. We're having a lunch at a New Orleans

0:43:21.440 --> 0:43:24.160
<v Speaker 9>buffet and there were CPAs about twenty of them, maybe

0:43:24.160 --> 0:43:26.600
<v Speaker 9>from all over the country. I learned more talking to

0:43:26.640 --> 0:43:29.600
<v Speaker 9>that conversation than a month with members of Congress.

0:43:29.600 --> 0:43:31.240
<v Speaker 7>No offense to members of Congress.

0:43:31.480 --> 0:43:33.440
<v Speaker 9>And that's what I've done throughout my career, tried to

0:43:33.480 --> 0:43:37.960
<v Speaker 9>talk to real Americans where they live about what their aspirations, feares, hopes, dreams,

0:43:38.280 --> 0:43:39.279
<v Speaker 9>possibilities are.

0:43:40.560 --> 0:43:42.879
<v Speaker 3>This phase one part of your career, that's what I'm

0:43:42.920 --> 0:43:45.360
<v Speaker 3>going to call it. You were ABC, you were Bloomberg,

0:43:46.000 --> 0:43:49.560
<v Speaker 3>you referenced the show, the Circus, you had the book

0:43:49.840 --> 0:43:53.080
<v Speaker 3>Game Change, of all of these different things that you

0:43:53.080 --> 0:43:56.320
<v Speaker 3>were part of during that first major phase of your career.

0:43:56.680 --> 0:43:58.760
<v Speaker 1>What were you most proud of during that time?

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<v Speaker 9>Probably trying to bring fairness and traditional journalism practices to

0:44:10.960 --> 0:44:14.880
<v Speaker 9>legacy media at a time when legacy media was in decline.

0:44:14.920 --> 0:44:18.319
<v Speaker 9>I got there right at the end of the monopoly

0:44:19.040 --> 0:44:23.520
<v Speaker 9>of ABC, CBS, NBC, Time, Newsweek, AP, New York Times,

0:44:23.600 --> 0:44:26.360
<v Speaker 9>Washington Post, Wall Street Journal. When I started my career,

0:44:27.120 --> 0:44:30.799
<v Speaker 9>there were about eight news organizations. They dominated everything. And

0:44:30.840 --> 0:44:35.919
<v Speaker 9>as the news organizations became more superficial as they lost

0:44:35.920 --> 0:44:38.479
<v Speaker 9>their monopoly and said, well, we got to cover less

0:44:38.520 --> 0:44:42.080
<v Speaker 9>about healthcare policy and more about the real housewives of wherever.

0:44:42.880 --> 0:44:46.040
<v Speaker 9>I'm proud of an effort to do news that was serious,

0:44:46.040 --> 0:44:48.880
<v Speaker 9>and I'm proud, led by the man who was my

0:44:48.920 --> 0:44:51.960
<v Speaker 9>mentor in my career, Peter Jennings of ABC News, to

0:44:53.520 --> 0:44:57.400
<v Speaker 9>not be biased, to not cut off half of America

0:44:57.719 --> 0:45:00.920
<v Speaker 9>who looked at the establishment media as liberally biased, not

0:45:01.000 --> 0:45:04.759
<v Speaker 9>to be conservative media, just to say why would why

0:45:04.760 --> 0:45:06.279
<v Speaker 9>would we only want to try to sell to half

0:45:06.320 --> 0:45:08.799
<v Speaker 9>the customers in America? And I did that at a

0:45:08.880 --> 0:45:12.040
<v Speaker 9>time in my career before there were people like you

0:45:12.600 --> 0:45:15.640
<v Speaker 9>access to the airwaves to call out liberal bias, before

0:45:15.680 --> 0:45:18.520
<v Speaker 9>Ari Fleischer was George Bush's press here to before it

0:45:18.640 --> 0:45:21.520
<v Speaker 9>there became ways to call it out. I called it

0:45:21.520 --> 0:45:24.719
<v Speaker 9>out both publicly and privately, and took a lot of

0:45:24.760 --> 0:45:27.200
<v Speaker 9>heat for that. But it's the absolute right thing, not

0:45:27.239 --> 0:45:29.840
<v Speaker 9>just for America and not just for conservatives, but for

0:45:29.880 --> 0:45:34.759
<v Speaker 9>the news organizations I worked for whose liberal bias I

0:45:34.840 --> 0:45:37.680
<v Speaker 9>felt that the time and still do endangered their business model.

0:45:37.719 --> 0:45:40.720
<v Speaker 9>So probably those two things, serious journalism and an effort

0:45:40.719 --> 0:45:42.760
<v Speaker 9>to try to write the ship on liberal bias.

0:45:44.480 --> 0:45:46.960
<v Speaker 3>We're going to continue our conversation after this break with

0:45:47.160 --> 0:45:49.920
<v Speaker 3>Mark halprin Mark. We'll talk about phase two of your

0:45:49.960 --> 0:45:53.360
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<v Speaker 1>Show, Friday, August to twenty first. Welcome back.

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<v Speaker 3>Bit of breaking news before we return to our conversation

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<v Speaker 3>with Mark Halpren told, the Supreme Court has just allowed

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<v Speaker 3>President Trump to continue White House ballroom construction.

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<v Speaker 1>For now.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll track down this story for you and have details later.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's the breaking news here in this second hour

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<v Speaker 3>of common sense for the American people. Mark Alprin is

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<v Speaker 3>our guest is the founder of the interactive media platform

0:48:03.080 --> 0:48:07.000
<v Speaker 3>known as two Way, and he's a long time political

0:48:07.080 --> 0:48:09.120
<v Speaker 3>journalist and political commentator.

0:48:09.200 --> 0:48:09.439
<v Speaker 1>Mark.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for being with us today and allowing us

0:48:12.360 --> 0:48:16.320
<v Speaker 3>to explore your long and interesting career. Mark, Your career

0:48:17.000 --> 0:48:22.040
<v Speaker 3>took an interruption in twenty seventeen. You had some workplace

0:48:22.160 --> 0:48:27.600
<v Speaker 3>misconduct allegations during your years at ABC, you acknowledged behavior

0:48:27.640 --> 0:48:32.200
<v Speaker 3>that you described as inappropriate, You apologized, and then almost overnight,

0:48:32.280 --> 0:48:37.480
<v Speaker 3>you lost virtually every professional platform that you had. Looking

0:48:37.520 --> 0:48:42.560
<v Speaker 3>back on that period, now, what did you learn about

0:48:42.560 --> 0:48:45.040
<v Speaker 3>yourself when all of these things that you had been

0:48:45.080 --> 0:48:48.080
<v Speaker 3>building and working for your whole life disappeared in the

0:48:48.080 --> 0:48:48.840
<v Speaker 3>blink of an eye.

0:48:51.200 --> 0:48:54.959
<v Speaker 9>Gratitude to my family and my real friends, Gratitude for

0:48:55.080 --> 0:48:57.920
<v Speaker 9>those who believed in me. Gratitude for the opportunity in

0:48:57.960 --> 0:49:02.400
<v Speaker 9>America to acknowledge missdes to not be subject to.

0:49:03.840 --> 0:49:05.560
<v Speaker 7>The destruction of false allegations.

0:49:05.560 --> 0:49:08.480
<v Speaker 9>If you have got a sense of perseverance and the

0:49:08.520 --> 0:49:11.360
<v Speaker 9>capacity to try to get a fresh start.

0:49:13.320 --> 0:49:18.120
<v Speaker 3>Second acts are sometimes hard to come by, and you're

0:49:18.160 --> 0:49:20.600
<v Speaker 3>having one right now, and I think quite a successful

0:49:20.719 --> 0:49:25.280
<v Speaker 3>second act. What does it take in America to earn

0:49:26.440 --> 0:49:28.520
<v Speaker 3>a second act? Who deserves a second act in our

0:49:28.560 --> 0:49:29.440
<v Speaker 3>culture these days?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I think every case is different.

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<v Speaker 9>You know, Unfortunately, a lot of the declaration of cancelation

0:49:39.160 --> 0:49:43.239
<v Speaker 9>is not facts based, not fact based. If a group

0:49:43.239 --> 0:49:44.839
<v Speaker 9>of people doesn't need to be a very large group

0:49:44.840 --> 0:49:48.200
<v Speaker 9>of people decide somebody should be canceled, facts don't matter,

0:49:49.200 --> 0:49:52.840
<v Speaker 9>and that's unfortunate. I have so many friends who I

0:49:52.840 --> 0:49:54.560
<v Speaker 9>always want to know the facts, so I wass asking them.

0:49:54.640 --> 0:49:56.400
<v Speaker 9>But if so many friends who say to me, no

0:49:56.440 --> 0:49:58.240
<v Speaker 9>one ever asked me the facts, you're the first person

0:49:58.239 --> 0:49:59.960
<v Speaker 9>to ever ask me what the facts of the situation

0:50:00.040 --> 0:50:04.719
<v Speaker 9>and are so I think unfortunately, we went through a

0:50:04.760 --> 0:50:08.640
<v Speaker 9>period on a variety of issues in which there were

0:50:08.680 --> 0:50:12.400
<v Speaker 9>savments of society that just decided without often with that,

0:50:12.520 --> 0:50:15.160
<v Speaker 9>I would say, more often than not, without investigation, without

0:50:15.239 --> 0:50:18.400
<v Speaker 9>due process, without fairness, that certain people just shouldn't be

0:50:18.440 --> 0:50:20.719
<v Speaker 9>allowed to have lives. And you and I both know

0:50:20.760 --> 0:50:24.960
<v Speaker 9>many people associated with President Trump who lost access to

0:50:25.000 --> 0:50:27.879
<v Speaker 9>all sorts of things in their professional lives and often

0:50:27.880 --> 0:50:30.759
<v Speaker 9>in their personal lives. And there may be may have

0:50:30.760 --> 0:50:33.239
<v Speaker 9>been some softening of that in some quarters, but it's

0:50:33.239 --> 0:50:36.040
<v Speaker 9>still a real danger to our society and still really

0:50:36.440 --> 0:50:38.880
<v Speaker 9>a difficult thing to explain to young people who are

0:50:38.920 --> 0:50:41.560
<v Speaker 9>taught on the one hand that the country has due

0:50:41.560 --> 0:50:44.600
<v Speaker 9>process and the country has fairness, and the country has forgiveness.

0:50:44.760 --> 0:50:47.640
<v Speaker 9>And on the other hand, sometimes a group of people

0:50:47.719 --> 0:50:50.239
<v Speaker 9>just decide that a certain person isn't isn't allowed to

0:50:51.080 --> 0:50:53.759
<v Speaker 9>go through life in a normal way. And like I said,

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<v Speaker 9>I always ask people what the facts are, and typically

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<v Speaker 9>even if even if they are a version of the

0:50:57.960 --> 0:51:00.600
<v Speaker 9>facts that's in one hundred percent correct, usually differs pretty

0:51:00.640 --> 0:51:02.000
<v Speaker 9>dramatically from the public record.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark.

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<v Speaker 3>After this happened, you stepped away from traditional media, and

0:51:07.600 --> 0:51:10.080
<v Speaker 3>you took some time away from all of that, and

0:51:10.200 --> 0:51:14.640
<v Speaker 3>while you were out, the media landscape changed dramatically. Did

0:51:14.719 --> 0:51:19.600
<v Speaker 3>being shut out of traditional media force you or lead

0:51:19.680 --> 0:51:23.080
<v Speaker 3>you to see its weaknesses more clearly and then allow

0:51:23.160 --> 0:51:25.600
<v Speaker 3>you to build something new in the aftermath event.

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<v Speaker 9>No, I've always, as an earlier conversation we had suggested,

0:51:30.880 --> 0:51:33.440
<v Speaker 9>I've always seen the weaknesses in traditional media, and not

0:51:33.520 --> 0:51:35.480
<v Speaker 9>just on the editorial side, but on the business side

0:51:35.480 --> 0:51:39.080
<v Speaker 9>and on the technological side. Legacy media has some things

0:51:39.080 --> 0:51:43.400
<v Speaker 9>that new media doesn't. If somebody blew up the federal

0:51:43.440 --> 0:51:46.520
<v Speaker 9>building in Oklahoma City right now, Scott Jennings would not

0:51:46.520 --> 0:51:48.920
<v Speaker 9>send fifty people to Oklahoma City to cover it. You

0:51:49.000 --> 0:51:51.120
<v Speaker 9>just wouldn't. Just that's not what you're built to do.

0:51:51.480 --> 0:51:54.640
<v Speaker 9>If Scott Jennings wanted to get the bottom of the

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<v Speaker 9>Okazio Cortes administration's vaccination policy, you wouldn't be filing Freedom

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<v Speaker 9>of Information Act requests or of suing If you didn't

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<v Speaker 9>get the documents. Scott Jennings has no bureaus in Africa.

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<v Speaker 9>So the old media, big places with the economies of

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<v Speaker 9>scale to do stuff, they're important. But in the age

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<v Speaker 9>in which we live, with the fragmentation of media, their

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<v Speaker 9>dinosaurs and their business models don't work. I knew all

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<v Speaker 9>that when I worked in there, and that's why throughout

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<v Speaker 9>my career, as you mentioned with the note and other

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<v Speaker 9>things I've done, when I was in legacy media, I

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<v Speaker 9>was always entrepreneurial. I was always saying, my work will

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<v Speaker 9>be excellent no matter what I do. It's just like

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<v Speaker 9>the nature of my work. I need to be entrepreneurial.

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<v Speaker 9>I need to understand how we're going to make money

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<v Speaker 9>doing great work. And so in terms of the opportunities

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<v Speaker 9>in new media, in terms of the differences in terms

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<v Speaker 9>of the competitive advantages, I knew all about those when

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<v Speaker 9>I was in legacy media, and I tried to bring

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<v Speaker 9>those sensibilities and those advantages to legacy, as hard as

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<v Speaker 9>that is. With the bureaucracy. I tried.

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<v Speaker 3>Mark ten seconds before we go to our next break,

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<v Speaker 3>who in news is worth watching today?

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<v Speaker 1>Who do you pay most closely close attention to?

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<v Speaker 9>Primarily Scott Jennings. Well that's a flattering answer. Thank you said,

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<v Speaker 9>had only had said, only had ten seconds. Like most Americans,

0:53:16.160 --> 0:53:18.080
<v Speaker 9>I don't watch much cable news, but I watched Scott

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<v Speaker 9>Jennings on social media rolling his eyes at a parade

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<v Speaker 9>of liberals.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it all right.

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<v Speaker 3>Mark Alpert is our special guest conversation Today.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to take a break.

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<v Speaker 3>Before we do, let me talk to you about a

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<v Speaker 3>documentary that has been produced about our friend Charlie Kirk.

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<v Speaker 3>Just two weeks before his tragic assassination last September, he

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<v Speaker 3>wrestle with a timeless question, does God.

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<v Speaker 1>Still speak today?

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<v Speaker 3>If you appreciate Charlie, and I know that if you're

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<v Speaker 3>break and come back with some current event punditry with

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<v Speaker 3>our special conversation with Mark Alprin right after this.

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<v Speaker 5>You want to drive a leftist crazy, tell the truth

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<v Speaker 5>and keep smiling.

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<v Speaker 6>This is the Scott Jennings.

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<v Speaker 1>Show, Friday, August the twenty first.

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<v Speaker 3>Our special guest today is political journalist Mark halpern.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get back to him in just a moment.

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<v Speaker 3>A little bit more here on this breaking news out

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<v Speaker 3>of the Supreme Court, Chief Justice John Roberts has issued

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<v Speaker 3>a temporary order allowing construction on President Trump's White House

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<v Speaker 3>ballroom project to continue. The Roberts order temporarily blocks a

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<v Speaker 3>lower court ruling that would have halted the above ground

0:54:55.200 --> 0:54:59.120
<v Speaker 3>work due to a lack of congressional approval. This will

0:54:59.120 --> 0:55:03.000
<v Speaker 3>give the Supreme Court time to way the administration's emergency appeal.

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<v Speaker 3>So for now, the construction continues. I suspect it will

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<v Speaker 3>continue to continue in the weeks and months ahead. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if Donald Trump will ever use that ballroom,

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<v Speaker 3>but some future president most likely will. Talking to Mark

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<v Speaker 3>halper and the founder of the Two Way political journalism platform, Mark,

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<v Speaker 3>before we continue our conversation, tell our audience, for those

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<v Speaker 3>Or interact with two Way tell us how to interface

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, thank you for asking. It's a company I helped found.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Mark, you're on there, of course.

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<v Speaker 3>Who are some of the other personalities that folks would

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<v Speaker 3>find on two way dot tv.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, so, I host a show in the morning called

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<v Speaker 9>The Morning Meeting with Kevin Walling is a democratic strategist.

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<v Speaker 9>You might have seen him on The Five and other

0:56:30.760 --> 0:56:34.279
<v Speaker 9>shows on Fox and elsewhere. And then Larry O'Connor who's

0:56:34.280 --> 0:56:38.439
<v Speaker 9>a conservative talk show host on Salem I Believe and Yeah,

0:56:39.440 --> 0:56:42.080
<v Speaker 9>they host with me in the morning. And then we

0:56:42.120 --> 0:56:43.839
<v Speaker 9>have a bunch of people who rotate through as well.

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<v Speaker 9>Eric Erickson is one of our regulars as well. A

0:56:47.840 --> 0:56:50.319
<v Speaker 9>guy named Hima Moore who used to be the chief

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<v Speaker 9>of staff of the DNC.

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<v Speaker 7>Megan McCain has a show.

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<v Speaker 9>There's also a program from an actor named Ethan Soupley

0:56:58.080 --> 0:57:01.359
<v Speaker 9>who lost hundreds of pounds, and the shows about it's

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<v Speaker 9>called Lifelong. It's about making a commitment to public to

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<v Speaker 9>personal health, weight loss, stand off drugs and alcohol, learning

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<v Speaker 7>To eat right and be healthy.

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<v Speaker 9>And then we have our game show as well, hosted

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<v Speaker 9>by different people including meganos the game show at times too.

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<v Speaker 7>Those are some of the shows we have now. And

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<v Speaker 7>as I said, more coming.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Mark Halper and the founder of two Way.

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<v Speaker 3>I just pulled it up here live, interactive, authentic and

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<v Speaker 3>number two the wordway dot TV. I'd encourage you to

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<v Speaker 3>check it out. It's quite interesting. All right, Mark, let's

0:57:38.720 --> 0:57:41.640
<v Speaker 3>get back to our political conversation. Let me ask you this,

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<v Speaker 3>if you had to describe the political environment in America

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<v Speaker 3>right now in one sentence, what would it be.

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<v Speaker 9>A yearning to produce a better life for kids and

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<v Speaker 9>grandkids by fundamentally changing the power between.

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<v Speaker 7>The governed and the governors?

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<v Speaker 1>Is there is?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that what is driving most of our politics right

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<v Speaker 3>now just sort of a fundamental distrust of, or discussed

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<v Speaker 3>with the institutional elites who run our government and frankly

0:58:21.320 --> 0:58:23.000
<v Speaker 3>other large institutions in this country.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I think, as much as anything else, is what

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<v Speaker 9>fuel Donald Trump's rise, and even though he's been president

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<v Speaker 9>now for six years, I think it fuels a lot

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<v Speaker 9>of the MAGA movement. It's what fuels the Democratic Socialists

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<v Speaker 9>and Senator Sanders. And you look at what's going on

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<v Speaker 9>with data centers where someone is dedicated to the free

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<v Speaker 9>market and technological advantage, as Mike Rogers, Republican synd candidate

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<v Speaker 9>in Michigan has now called for one year moratorium on

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<v Speaker 9>data centers in Michigan. There's there's a there's a there's

0:58:50.960 --> 0:58:53.600
<v Speaker 9>an optimistic country. It's a hopeful country. It's a country

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<v Speaker 9>that wants our kids and grandkids to have more opportunity

0:58:56.240 --> 0:58:58.760
<v Speaker 9>than we do. And what people see and it's backed

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<v Speaker 9>by the data. That's they're not paranoid to think it

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<v Speaker 9>too much power, too much wealth, concentrated in the hands

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<v Speaker 9>of a few at the expense of the many, As

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<v Speaker 9>doctor El said, Mike Roger's opponent says, the man the

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<v Speaker 9>money over the many. And I think that is the

0:59:15.320 --> 0:59:18.080
<v Speaker 9>strongest force in American politics. And it's not just on

0:59:18.120 --> 0:59:20.680
<v Speaker 9>the far left and the far right. You go to

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<v Speaker 9>a suburban potluck dinner in almost any suburb in America

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<v Speaker 9>and you'll hear the same thing. The elites have too

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<v Speaker 9>much power and they're not using it for the benefit

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<v Speaker 9>of the many when it comes to income, when it

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<v Speaker 9>comes to health. And that's not a liberal thing. Conservatives,

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<v Speaker 9>i think, believe the same thing. The elites in this

0:59:38.520 --> 0:59:42.960
<v Speaker 9>country have not governed correctly, and people want better governance

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<v Speaker 9>that doesn't involve reliance on career politicians.

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<v Speaker 3>You're raised mark One of the issues that is rising

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<v Speaker 3>in many of these campaigns around the country, and that

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<v Speaker 3>is the issue of data centers tell us do people

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<v Speaker 3>have legitimate concerns about data centers, or are we living

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<v Speaker 3>through mass hysteria that is fueled by online propaganda, which

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<v Speaker 3>is closer to the truth.

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<v Speaker 7>They're both.

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<v Speaker 9>They're both true, and I know you were trying to

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<v Speaker 9>set up the polls and understand why, but they're both true.

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<v Speaker 9>There are legitimate complaints, and I really do think the

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<v Speaker 9>people who run the AI companies, who are amongst literally

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<v Speaker 9>the smartest people who've ever walked the face of the earth,

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<v Speaker 9>have been absolute effing morons when it comes to understanding

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<v Speaker 9>their obligation to society and basic public relations.

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<v Speaker 7>One oh one.

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<v Speaker 9>You can't have a bunch of millionaires and billionaires be

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<v Speaker 9>the spokespeople for something that not only is probably going

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<v Speaker 9>to be the most significant technological revolution in America, and

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<v Speaker 9>technological revolutions always come with job loss, but something that

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<v Speaker 9>is scary to people. And you can't make the physical

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<v Speaker 9>manifestation of this scary, vague new technology, giant build ugly buildings,

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<v Speaker 9>built in people's backyards. It's this malpractice that they've done

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<v Speaker 9>it this way. This administration came in with a very

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<v Speaker 9>definitive attitude, informed by the Biden folks. The Biden folks

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<v Speaker 9>said to the industry, you got to be regulated. We

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<v Speaker 9>got to regulate you. We're not going to make the

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<v Speaker 9>mistake we made with social media. You've got to be regulated.

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<v Speaker 9>And the industry supported President Trump in large part because

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<v Speaker 9>President Trump and his team said, no, we're going to

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<v Speaker 9>beat China by empowering this industry. And then they put

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<v Speaker 9>David Sacks, a very smart man, in charge of this

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<v Speaker 9>and David Sachs is a I would say absolutist, but

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<v Speaker 9>pretty close to saying no regulation. Okay, so you have

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<v Speaker 9>an industry with no sense of public relations, You've got

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<v Speaker 9>an administration with a high fidelity to no regulation of

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<v Speaker 9>this sector. And then in the real world that backfired,

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<v Speaker 9>and didn't just backfire with liberals and socialists, it backfired

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<v Speaker 9>with people across the political spectrum. You and I have

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<v Speaker 9>never lived through, with the possible exception of attitudes towards

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<v Speaker 9>same sex marriage, we have never lived through such a

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<v Speaker 9>dramatic change in public opinion in such a short period

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<v Speaker 9>of time. And so now I think through the election

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<v Speaker 9>through the interim is going to be a pandorama who

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<v Speaker 9>can accuse the other side more fervently of being in

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<v Speaker 9>the pocket of big Big Ai. And then hopefully after

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<v Speaker 9>the election there'll be a more rational conversation because yes,

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<v Speaker 9>there's paranoia about it, but there are also real concerns

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<v Speaker 9>that someone's gonna have to find a way to solomon

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<v Speaker 9>like navigate their way through the proper level of regulation here.

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<v Speaker 3>And based on your review of the polls and what

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<v Speaker 3>you see the two parties doing and arguing right now,

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<v Speaker 3>do you have a sense of which party stands to

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<v Speaker 3>politically benefit more from this environment in November? Will it

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<v Speaker 3>be the Democrats or the Republicans who get on top

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<v Speaker 3>of this better and make it work for them in individual.

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<v Speaker 9>Races specifically AI and data centers.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, this is well.

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<v Speaker 3>Look, I mean we're seeing ads like in Ohio and

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<v Speaker 3>we're seeing ads that are all about data centers coming

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<v Speaker 3>on an attack against Houston for instance.

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<v Speaker 9>Right, So, so Republicans Democrats have two advantages. To answer

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<v Speaker 9>your question, who's going to win this? Republicans have two.

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<v Speaker 9>Democrats have two advantages. Number One, the Republican Party, thanks

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<v Speaker 9>to the Trump administration, is the party of big big AI.

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<v Speaker 9>They just a factual matter, they've been more sympathetic to it.

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<v Speaker 9>And number two, uh, many of the Republican candidates in

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<v Speaker 9>the in the most high profile races have a longer

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<v Speaker 9>and more robust history of speaking favorably about Big AI.

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<v Speaker 9>So that's two advantages of the Democrats have. The advantage

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<v Speaker 9>the Republicans have is I believe their cash advantage may

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<v Speaker 9>be over a billion and a half dollars, and most

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<v Speaker 9>of the Democrats who are running on the ballot have

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<v Speaker 9>also been favorable towards AI. Governor Shapiro in Pennsylvania flip

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<v Speaker 9>flop this week from pro AI to Semianti. But there's

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<v Speaker 9>plenty to say about what he said in the past,

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<v Speaker 9>and and and more money to do. More advertising and

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<v Speaker 9>voter contact on that issue will help Republicans. On balance,

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<v Speaker 9>I believe that this will be an issue that works

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<v Speaker 9>if you go to the key races like Ohio Senate,

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<v Speaker 9>if you go to if you go to.

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<v Speaker 7>Texas Senate.

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<v Speaker 9>On balance and the targeted races, Democrats should do better

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<v Speaker 9>on this issue, should be a larger beneficiary. But like

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<v Speaker 9>with most of the things on the midterms, I want

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<v Speaker 9>to see how your friend James Blair spends a billion

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<v Speaker 9>and a half dollars more than the Democrats to try

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<v Speaker 9>to try a different view of which parties in the

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<v Speaker 9>pocket of Big AI.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's no doubt the Republicans have a cash advantage

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<v Speaker 3>here and deploying that is going to make a huge

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<v Speaker 3>difference in these races. We've got a minute and a

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<v Speaker 3>half here, Mark Befhere we take our next break. I

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<v Speaker 3>want to I want to ask you about the midterms.

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<v Speaker 3>Who which chamber is most likely to change hands? Is

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<v Speaker 3>it the House of the Senate?

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<v Speaker 9>It's the House, It has been the House, and it

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<v Speaker 9>will be the House no matter what happens.

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<v Speaker 7>Between now in November.

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<v Speaker 9>They both could and and and On the current track,

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<v Speaker 9>Democrats could win a surprisingly large number of Senate seats

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<v Speaker 9>could on this current track, But the House is a

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<v Speaker 9>much easier play for the Democrats to win the majority.

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<v Speaker 1>On the Senate side.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think Texas and Iowa are genuinely competitive or

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<v Speaker 3>is this Democrats again? Sort of you know, looking at

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<v Speaker 3>a mirage off in the distance, wind up investing, only

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<v Speaker 3>to be disappointed at the end.

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<v Speaker 9>I have been the leading person in my profession. How

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<v Speaker 9>long do we have, Scott, I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Want to have we got to Yeah, I'll give you

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<v Speaker 3>the last one minute here, give me a minute, Okay.

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<v Speaker 9>I have throughout my career been the leading person in

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<v Speaker 9>my business saying Democrats are wasting their time and money

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<v Speaker 9>in Texas. Maybe someday the demographics will be different. So

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<v Speaker 9>that constant posture. I never thought Beato had a chance.

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<v Speaker 9>I never thought any of these folks had a chance.

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<v Speaker 9>That posture gives me the credibility to say on the

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<v Speaker 9>current trajectory. Inexplicably James Tallerica, who said fifteen things would

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<v Speaker 9>normally disqualify a Democrat from being the first Democrat in

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<v Speaker 9>three generation, three decades to win.

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<v Speaker 7>A seat state wide.

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<v Speaker 9>He's the favorite until and unless Paxton demonstrates that it

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<v Speaker 9>will work for this, raise the money for this, that

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<v Speaker 9>someone will put in the money, because he can't go

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<v Speaker 9>in with five million dollars and say you're going to

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<v Speaker 9>save Paxton. If you're going to save Paxton, you got

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<v Speaker 9>to come in with fifty five million plus. So until

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<v Speaker 9>somebody does that, and until he shows he can answer questions,

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<v Speaker 9>until he shows he will work hard.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, Tallarico is the favorite.

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<v Speaker 9>It's not just that it's a competitive he's the favorite Iowa.

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<v Speaker 9>It's the complicated race. The governor's race makes it hard

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<v Speaker 9>to analyze the center race. But yes, those two races

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<v Speaker 9>are genuinely competitive as of today.

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<v Speaker 3>After the break, we're going to look beyond the November election.

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<v Speaker 3>Mark Halpern is our guest. He maintains one of the

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<v Speaker 3>most closely watched rankings of the potential twenty twenty eight

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<v Speaker 3>presidential candidates. We'll talk to Mark about who is rising

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<v Speaker 3>and who is falling, and who Mark Halpern believes is

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<v Speaker 3>most likely to lead the Democrat and Republican parties in

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty eight. We take a break. It's common Sense

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<v Speaker 3>for the American People. Scott Jennings is on Salem.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay with us, common Sense for the American People.

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<v Speaker 7>The scotch Atty Show.

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<v Speaker 3>Rounding out the week with our friend from two Way

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<v Speaker 3>dot TV, Mark Halpern, legendary political journalist.

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<v Speaker 7>Mark.

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<v Speaker 3>You maintain a list of rankings of Democrats most likely

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<v Speaker 3>to win the presidential nomination in twenty twenty eight. You

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<v Speaker 3>update it monthly. Your next update will come in early September.

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<v Speaker 3>For August, you had it this way. Shapiro Newsome, Boodhage, Edge,

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<v Speaker 3>Kamala Harris, AOC, Bernie Sanders, John Assoff, and Mark Kelly.

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<v Speaker 3>First question, are we going to see a major shakeup

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<v Speaker 3>when you reorder these folks in September.

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<v Speaker 7>We are.

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<v Speaker 9>I just read a piece for the Free Press of

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<v Speaker 9>at AOC. I'm moving her up. I lay out in

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<v Speaker 9>the piece, which I'll do as part of the rankings,

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<v Speaker 9>just how much stronger I believe she is now than

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<v Speaker 9>she was. Bernie Sanders is probably not going to run.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm the only one who thinks he might, but he

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<v Speaker 9>probably won't because of his age. He'll want someone to

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<v Speaker 9>lead the movement in AOC are good friends. I don't

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<v Speaker 9>believe they'll think Rocanna is up for it. And although

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<v Speaker 9>I think she's reluctant to run, I think she might

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<v Speaker 9>be carried in at the way George Bush described running

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<v Speaker 9>in two thousand as like he was a quark on

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<v Speaker 9>a raging river. I think that metaphor may apply to

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<v Speaker 9>her right now the demand for a progressive candidate, because

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<v Speaker 9>there's nobody else besides her and Bernie and Rocana, I

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<v Speaker 9>think the demand may be so high she runs, and

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<v Speaker 9>if she does, I think your chances for the nomination

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<v Speaker 9>are quite high at this point.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think the changes to the Democrat National Committee

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<v Speaker 3>primary calendar hurt, help or make no difference to a

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<v Speaker 3>candidate like AOC.

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<v Speaker 9>I think the conventional wisdom is that they hurt because

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<v Speaker 9>South Carolina's first.

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<v Speaker 7>I have a different view. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 9>I think it's too soon to say, because the only

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<v Speaker 9>reason the early states matter is because the press say

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<v Speaker 9>they do. That's the only reason these days will not

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<v Speaker 9>be sync with the Republican days. These days will not

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<v Speaker 9>will be in a lot of states with no political tradition.

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<v Speaker 9>Even South Carolina's political tradition of first the nation is

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<v Speaker 9>not the same as rich as Iowa and New Hampshire.

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<v Speaker 9>So I think if you take any state in the Union, Scott,

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<v Speaker 9>I think the Progressives have twenty percent minimum up to

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<v Speaker 9>forty percent, twenty percent and forty percent in between. That's

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<v Speaker 9>more than enough to win every one or at least

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<v Speaker 9>finish top three. And whereas South Carolina when he used

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<v Speaker 9>to go third or fourth was a problem for more

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<v Speaker 9>liberal candidates because it was kind of the firewall for

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<v Speaker 9>the establishment, going first means AOC doesn't need to win it.

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<v Speaker 7>If it's fourth, she needs to win it.

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<v Speaker 9>So I think the conventional wisdom that the Progressives are

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<v Speaker 9>hurt by South Carolina moving first is one.

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<v Speaker 7>Hundred percent wrong.

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<v Speaker 9>Probably we don't know for sure, but that'd be my

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<v Speaker 9>guess I think she can finish in the top three

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<v Speaker 9>in all first six states and going to Super Tuesday

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<v Speaker 9>with the most delegates.

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<v Speaker 3>Is there a candidate that is currently not on your

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<v Speaker 3>list that you're keeping an eye on that could be

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of a sleeper and find themselves in

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<v Speaker 3>position sort of to make a late move here to

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<v Speaker 3>get the nomination.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't believe in sleepers. Suggest there's no such thing.

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<v Speaker 9>People say, well, Barack Obama was a sleeper. Barack Obama

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<v Speaker 9>was talked about as a potential president when you went

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<v Speaker 9>to Harvard Law School. People say Donald Trump was a sleeper.

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<v Speaker 9>Donald Trump talked about running for president for twenty five years.

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<v Speaker 9>I just don't believe in sleepers. Now, my list only

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<v Speaker 9>has eight and there have been people who've been on

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<v Speaker 9>it and off it, So there may be somebody who's

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<v Speaker 9>been on it in the past who's not on it

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<v Speaker 9>this month.

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<v Speaker 7>But no, I don't I believe.

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<v Speaker 9>I believe the field is the field because there's at

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<v Speaker 9>least a couple people on this list who aren't going

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<v Speaker 9>to let some outsider come in and just steal the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I continue to believe that Kamala Harris has more

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<v Speaker 3>strength as a possible nominee than some.

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<v Speaker 1>People give her credit for.

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<v Speaker 7>But she is.

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<v Speaker 3>I see you have her fourth and I think she's

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<v Speaker 3>a stronger possibility than some people think.

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<v Speaker 1>We got about a minute and a half part I

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<v Speaker 1>want to get Yeah, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 9>Go ahead, sorry, go ahead, just quickly. Every month she's the

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<v Speaker 9>most controversial. I do reporting with about fifty folks, mostly Democrats,

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<v Speaker 9>some Republicans. Some people every month say she should be

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<v Speaker 9>number one, and some people every month say she shouldn't

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<v Speaker 9>be on the list.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I can imagine you get strong opinions. Let's close out.

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<v Speaker 3>We got about a minute I want to do the Republicans.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you one hundred percent convinced that Jade Vance is

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<v Speaker 3>going to run for president?

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<v Speaker 9>No, he just had a kid. You've got you've got

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<v Speaker 9>four kids? Or five kids?

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<v Speaker 1>Four?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 7>Forget how many kids do you get? Four? He's just

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<v Speaker 7>had a fourth kid. Uh, yeah, he does.

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<v Speaker 9>He would you would you start running for president right

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<v Speaker 9>after your first kid was last kid was born. I

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<v Speaker 9>just think it's not a sure thing. I think if

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<v Speaker 9>he does run, I think he's a mortal lock for

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<v Speaker 9>the nomination. With Donald Trump and Marco Rubio's endorsement, and

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<v Speaker 9>I think it's close to mortal lock. You'll pick Rubio's

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<v Speaker 9>his running name, but no, it's not a sure thing

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<v Speaker 9>he's going to run.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, that's Mark Halpern, American political journalist and political commentator. Mark,

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<v Speaker 3>you were a good guinea pig. That's the first in

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<v Speaker 3>a series of I think we're gonna do this more.

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<v Speaker 3>I think this work. You were You were really good

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<v Speaker 3>with the uh uh with the format today, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think we're gonna try it again. We take a break,

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<v Speaker 3>more news on this radio station after this.

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<v Speaker 1>You got it. Thanks Mark, We'll see you guys on Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Scott. I'm out of here.