1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 1: The voice of free speech, the truth delivered common sense 2 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: for the American people. Welcome to the Scott Jenning Show. 3 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 2: Well, it was a calmer night in Minneapolis, but still 4 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: an impasse remains between Trump and local Democrats there. Arkansas 5 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 2: Attorney General Tim Griffin is here to take on China. 6 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: We'll talk to him. And Marco Rubio testifies on Capitol Hill. 7 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 2: It's Wednesday, January twenty eighth. This is the Scott Jennings 8 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: Show on Salem. Rely from your nation's capital today, still 9 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 2: fighting a cold, but determined to deliver common sense to 10 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: the American people. Were all hopped up on Pseuda fed 11 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 2: and musinix and hot tea and honey. Caroline's in here. 12 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 2: She's got the honey jar. She's like Winnie the Pooh 13 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 2: out here with all this honey. We'll see if we 14 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: can make it through the show. Let's start with the news. 15 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: A calmer night last evening in Minneapolis, after Trump's born 16 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 2: Tom Homan arrived and met with the Governor Tim Walls 17 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: in Minneapolis Mayor and honorary Somali pirate Jacob Frye. It 18 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 2: appears that local police have now been freed up, at 19 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: least in some instances to help keep the peace now 20 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 2: before they had been ordered to stand down and look 21 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 2: away when federal agents were under attack from violent, angry mobs. 22 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 2: That's a big step in the right direction for Homan. 23 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: One has to wonder had Walls and Fry allowed local 24 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: police to do crowd control in the first place, would 25 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 2: two people be dead right now? Perhaps not Walls and 26 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 2: Fry and the rest of the Minnesota Democrats radicalized, mobilized, 27 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 2: and unleashed political vigilantes, and then told the local cops 28 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 2: to look the other way. 29 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 3: It's that simple. 30 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 2: At least now, this matter appears to be resolved of 31 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 2: using local cops to do crowd control. Let's hope it 32 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 2: stays that way. But there is no resolution on the 33 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 2: only question that met. Will mayor Fry cooperate with ICE 34 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 2: and let them take custody of illegal aliens who are 35 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 2: in the local jail. Homan asked for it, Trump wants it, 36 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 2: and today Fry still says no, he will not cooperate. 37 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 2: He says federal immigration laws will not be enforced in Minneapolis. 38 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: The attempted secession from the union continues. The lack of 39 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 2: cooperation is the entire reason for the large ICE presence 40 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 2: in Minneapolis. In the first place, Minneapolis is a sanctuary city, 41 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: and Frye is taking that to the extreme, protecting violent 42 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: illegal populations at all costs. There are nearly fourteen hundred 43 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 2: illegal aliens in Minnesota jails as we speak. While many 44 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 2: Democrats are content to die on this hill of defending 45 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 2: all illegal immigration, at least one of them is having 46 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,959 Speaker 2: a change of heart. I want you to listen to 47 00:02:56,040 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 2: this exchange last night on CNN between Caitlin Collins and 48 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: Senator John Fetterman of Pennsylvania CUT eight. 49 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 4: Do you still agree with that tonight? 50 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 5: Is that still your position that sanctuary cities make people safer? 51 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:17,399 Speaker 6: I think at that time the dynamic has changed much differently, 52 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 6: and the border has become more and more increasingly more difficult. 53 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 7: So for me now, I think it's entirely appropriate. 54 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 6: To make the adjustments, and I do think I do 55 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 6: think at this point we should be turning over all 56 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 6: the criminals that are in custody and all these jurisdictions. 57 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 4: Does that I mean for Minneapolis. 58 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 5: Obviously you're the senator from Pennsylvania, But in Minnesota, Jacob 59 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 5: fry the mayor, says he doesn't believe that they should 60 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 5: cooperate with those federal enforcement laws. So you do believe 61 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 5: that they should be cooperating more with the Trump administration. 62 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 7: What I do. 63 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 6: What I do believe is that if there are law 64 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 6: enforcement that have these people in custody, you know, that 65 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 6: are behaving in criminal behavior, then yes they should, they 66 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 6: should cooperate with that, and those individuals, if they're convicted, 67 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 6: shouldn't be deported. 68 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 2: If only Minnesota had Democrats as sensible as John Fetterman. 69 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 2: Now Trump has the right guy on the ground here 70 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 2: in Homan, but Democrats have chosen so poorly when it 71 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 2: comes to leadership that a common sense outcome in Minnesota 72 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: seems a remote possibility. Sadly, Democrats nationwide are more apt 73 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 2: to display the attitude of walls and fry than Fetterman. 74 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 2: In fact, in Fetterman's home state of Pennsylvania, the Philadelphia 75 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 2: District Attorney Larry Krasner is facing enormous backlash today for 76 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 2: these comments about federal law enforcement officers. 77 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 3: You won't believe your ears. Here's cut six. 78 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 8: This is a small bunch of wanna be Nazis, that's 79 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 8: what they are. In a country of three hundred and 80 00:04:55,720 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 8: fifty million, we outnumber them. If we have to hunt 81 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 8: you down the way they hunted down Nazis for decades, 82 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 8: we will find your identities, we will find you, we 83 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 8: will achieve justice. 84 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 2: And it's hard to imagine anything more chilling than that. 85 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 2: The left in this country must decide, are we a 86 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 2: nation of laws, including immigration laws, or are we a 87 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 2: nation that lives under mob rule? 88 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 3: Now? 89 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 2: I appeared on CNN yesterday afternoon with Casey Hunt to 90 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 2: make a plea for being a nation of laws. 91 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 4: Here's cut ten. I will just caution all these people. 92 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 9: You cannot let an angry mob nullify federal law and 93 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 9: a jurisdiction. 94 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 10: If they do that in America, what the angry mob 95 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 10: is the American people. 96 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 9: These people in Minneapolis are an angry mob. 97 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 4: Whether you like it or not. 98 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 9: They don't like the fact that the president is enforcing 99 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 9: long standing federal immigration Does that mean they should be 100 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 9: on the street. 101 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 4: That's the question that we're talking about debate. The debate 102 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 4: is about what the president is going to do next. 103 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 9: And if you were to let them win and you 104 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 9: were to be run out of town, what do you 105 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 9: think what happened in La Chicago, New York, all over 106 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 9: the country you're going to or problematic? 107 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 4: I mean, do I think it's problematic? Of course, it's problematic. Okay, 108 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 4: is wrong anytime someone dies. Anytimes someone dies, it's problematic. 109 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 9: But what they're asking for is for federal law enforcement 110 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 9: to be sent. 111 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 4: Out of town? Is it wrong? And that no federal 112 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 4: laws at forced? Was what happened to Alex pretty on 113 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 4: the street? 114 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 11: Wrong? 115 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 4: Was it wrong? Is it wrong? 116 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 9: I'm waiting for an investigation, which I fully support. I 117 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 9: don't know what the circumstances were. 118 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 12: If I don't like democratic president in the White House, 119 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 12: would you. 120 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 4: Be I want an investigation? 121 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 9: Would I want to? Of course I would. I don't 122 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 9: like that people have died. I don't like this chaos. 123 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 9: But I also don't like the idea that we're just 124 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 9: going to say, well, in this one little territory, we're 125 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,679 Speaker 9: not going to enforce federal laws anymore. That doesn't strike 126 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 9: me as a good idea for the president right now. 127 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 4: So A, he's got a treat situation. 128 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 9: It's very complex, but being run out of town by 129 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 9: an angry mob, to. 130 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 4: Me, is not an option. 131 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 2: That was the debate we had on CNN yesterday afternoon, 132 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 2: and it is the question of the day. Are we 133 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 2: a nation of laws or are we a nation of mobs? 134 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 2: And how are we going to treat the people who 135 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 2: enforce our laws? Are we going to treat them like 136 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 2: Nazis to be hunted as the Philadelphia District Attorney says, 137 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 2: Are we going to continue to call them the Gestapo? 138 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 2: That's what Tim Walls has called them. This is the 139 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 2: language they are using today to set up the action tomorrow. 140 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 2: Make no mistake, this is not mere rhetoric for these Democrats. 141 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 3: They fully intend to do this. 142 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: In California, a congressman named Eric Swalwell, who's now running 143 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 2: for governor of California, has threatened similar retribution for anyone 144 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 2: who has ever worked for ICE. So you have people 145 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 2: who sign up to be law enforcement, who sign up 146 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 2: to do public service for the federal government, who put 147 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 2: themselves in harm's way to protect. 148 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 3: Us and to enforce our laws. 149 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 2: They don't write laws, they enforce laws, and they get 150 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 2: to be treated like Nazis to be hunted down. It's 151 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 2: really unbelievable. This is a pivotal moment for Donald Trump's presidency. 152 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 2: In my opinion, it is a pivotal moment because allowing 153 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: angry mobs. To nullify federal laws would create open season 154 00:08:56,360 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 2: on law enforcement in cities across the country, and that 155 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: simply cannot be allowed. I don't believe the President is 156 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 2: going to allow it, after all enforcing our immigration laws 157 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 2: and cleaning up the immigration crisis caused by Democrats as 158 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 2: one of the key reasons he was elected in the 159 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 2: first place. You're listening to the Scott Jennings Show here 160 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 2: on Salem. 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When we come back a 186 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 2: deeper look at plummeting homicide rates in America, Stay with us, 187 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 2: ready for. 188 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 13: More common sense here CNN senior political commentator, New York 189 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 13: Times best selling author An America. 190 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 14: His favorite political pundit, Scott Jettings. 191 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 2: You know, I keep reading all these headlines and it's 192 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 2: good news in America that homicide rates have plummeted, And 193 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 2: then the sub headlines all say no one knows why, 194 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 2: And I thought to myself, how could we find out 195 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 2: the answer to this question and here's the answer. 196 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 3: Joining us is Rafael Mangwall. 197 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 2: Roff is the Nick O'Nell Fellow at the Manhattan Institute. 198 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 2: He is a contributing editor at City Journal. He is 199 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 2: a member of the Council on Criminal Justice. He is 200 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 2: one of the nation's foremost experts on criminal justice and 201 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 2: crime statistics. Raff, Welcome back to the Scott Shetting Show. 202 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 12: Always good to be with you, Scott, Thanks so much 203 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 12: for having me on. 204 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 2: Thanks for coming in today. So there's a new report 205 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 2: from the Council on Criminal Justice that shows that data 206 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 2: collected from thirty five American cities showed a twenty one 207 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 2: decrease in the homicide rate from twenty twenty four to 208 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. Carjackings, shoplifting, aggravated assaults are all down 209 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 2: as well. 210 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 3: Why is that. 211 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 2: We have a lot of media asking why or saying 212 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 2: they don't know why. 213 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 3: What's your view? 214 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 12: Well, I think there are a lot of reasons. I mean, 215 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 12: the one thing I always like to tell people is 216 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 12: to resist the temptation to nationalize conversations about crime. Crime, 217 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 12: as we all know, is a very hyper local phenomenon. 218 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 12: It's something that you experience where you are when you're there. 219 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 12: It's not something that you experience in the aggregate, and 220 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 12: so we should resist explanations that sort of aggregate crime 221 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 12: as a whole. That said, I do think that there 222 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 12: are a bunch of things that are going on in 223 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 12: the country, both policy and non policy related phenomenon that can, 224 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 12: I think, help explain why these numbers are moving in 225 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 12: the direction that they're moving, which, by the way, is 226 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 12: very very good news. On the non policy side, we've 227 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 12: had some major shifts throughout the country. We've seen a 228 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 12: significant move towards suburbanization, so urban populations are declining in 229 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 12: a lot of parts of the country. We have seen 230 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 12: a pretty significant decline in alcohol consumption, which is generally 231 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 12: associated with the commission of violent crime. We're seeing massive 232 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 12: changes in routine activities, more work from home rates, more 233 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 12: time spent at home, more time spent in the gym 234 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 12: when you're outside of the home, as opposed to time 235 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 12: spent in bars and nightclubs, which tend to be low 236 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 12: gi of crime. And why that matters actually is because 237 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 12: the more time that we spend at home, the fewer 238 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 12: opportunities there are for criminals to victimize us. And so 239 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 12: the raw numbers in a lot of these crime categories 240 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 12: no longer tell the same story, right, because we have 241 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 12: to now view them conditional on being in a place 242 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 12: where we might otherwise be victimized. And that's basically just 243 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 12: a nerdy way of saying that we need to control 244 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 12: for the amount of time that people are spending outside. 245 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 12: And then on the policy side, look, police departments around 246 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 12: the country have been reasserting themselves the last couple of years. 247 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 12: We're seeing arrest numbers go up, We're seeing stops go 248 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 12: up for the first time in over a decade. We 249 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 12: are seeing the prison population at the national level take upward. 250 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 12: We are seeing local jail populations take upward. Lots of 251 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 12: states in the wake of twenty twenty started to harden 252 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,719 Speaker 12: their criminal justice systems. A couple of examples or Louisiana, 253 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 12: Tennessee especially, I think, has been a national leader with 254 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 12: initiatives like truth and Sentencing and you know, bail reform 255 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 12: initiatives and you know, blended juvenile sentencing and you know, 256 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 12: basically making it so that it's easier to send bad 257 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 12: guys to jail. And the cops I think are kind 258 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 12: of you know, taking control back of the streets. When 259 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 12: you combine that with some of the things on the 260 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 12: non policy side, I think we can kind of get 261 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 12: to at least applausible explanation for why things are moving 262 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 12: in the direction that they're moving. And I just want 263 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 12: to say the reason that a lot of people on 264 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 12: the left like to say we don't know why it 265 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 12: is so that you know, they can discount the policing. 266 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my question here. 267 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 2: A couple of things jumped out to me, and your 268 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 2: answer one, it sounds like our social habits, our cultural 269 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 2: habits are part of it, but they're obviously are policy 270 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 2: difference is you cited some states that have cracked down 271 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 2: increased policing. I assume it's your view that we're still 272 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 2: seeing a big difference between red states and blue states 273 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 2: when it comes to increase policing and increased incarceration rates 274 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 2: for people who commit violent crimes. 275 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 12: Oh yeah, I mean, look, I think states, like I said, Tennessee, 276 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 12: Louisiana have kind of really stood out in the national 277 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 12: picture of states that have moved pretty significantly to the 278 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 12: right in terms of their broader criminal justice policies. You know, 279 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 12: we've seen rollbacks of some of these parole reforms. We've 280 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 12: seen reintroductions of you know, three strikes measures and truth 281 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 12: and sentencing measures. These are all things I think that reflect, 282 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 12: you know, the sense that a lot of these places 283 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 12: has kind of just had it. But one of the 284 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 12: other things I think we need to realize is that 285 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 12: in a lot of blue cities, there have been some 286 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 12: significant changes. We have seen blue city DA's lose their seats. 287 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 12: In Oakland, California, you had Pamela Price successfully recalled and 288 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 12: replaced with Jones Dickinson. You had Nate pop Mak, Nate Hackman. 289 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 12: In Los Angeles, Iileen Berkle. 290 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 2: Some people turns out, turns out constituents out there don't 291 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 2: like don't like it when they can't go out on 292 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 2: their front porch without being murdered or Carjack Raff. I 293 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 2: love this conversation. I'm going to have you back soon. 294 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 2: Rafael mang Wall he's at the Manhattan Institute. Read him 295 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 2: in the City Journal. Raf thanks for joining us today. 296 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 2: We got to take a break when we come back. 297 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 2: Arkansas Attorney General Tim Griffin is here an important topic. 298 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 2: You don't want to miss it. 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This is Tim Griffin. 371 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 4: You may or may not know. 372 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 15: It's well documented that the fennel that's on the street 373 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 15: in the United States and manufactured south of the border, 374 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:48,119 Speaker 15: primarily in Mexico, with ingredients shipped from mainland China. 375 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 4: And if you think that the. 376 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 15: Government of China is trying to stop that, you would 377 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 15: be wronged. 378 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 4: This fits into. 379 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 15: What I've talked about before, which is grayzone warfare, which 380 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 15: is China is able to kill Americans and to disrupt 381 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 15: our societies and erode our social fabric without pulling a 382 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 15: trick by doing things in our communities that degrade us as. 383 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 4: A society and destroy families. 384 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 15: You may or. 385 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,959 Speaker 2: And joining us now military veteran and Arkansas Attorney General 386 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 2: Tim Griffin, my friend, welcome into the Scott Chitting Show. 387 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 16: Thank you for having me. 388 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 15: It was great to have you in Arkansas, and thanks 389 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 15: for having me to talk about this really really important topic. 390 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, when you were discussing this with me down in 391 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 2: Little Rock, the way you put it together. 392 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 3: I mean, it made a lot of sense to me. 393 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 2: And you're dealing with all these things going on in 394 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 2: our communities on a daily basis. Kind of give me 395 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 2: an overview. How did you get interested in this phrase 396 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 2: gray zone warfare? And just give us an idea when 397 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 2: you're in Arkansas, how does it play out in local 398 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 2: communities there and what are you, as an attorney general 399 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 2: able to do about it? 400 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 7: Yeah. 401 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 15: So I've been in the military going on thirty years 402 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 15: in June twenty nine years in the reserve, one year 403 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 15: that was active duty. 404 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 16: I'm now in the Guard. 405 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 15: So the term greyzone warfare is extremely common in the 406 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 15: national security space. If you go to Google and you 407 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 15: search greyzone warfare, you will see more stuff than you 408 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 15: can read. It's everywhere. It's well known if you're in 409 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 15: that world. If you're not in that world, you don't 410 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 15: hear the term greyzone warfare much at all. 411 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:51,719 Speaker 16: I have sought to change that. Why and what is so? 412 00:22:54,000 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 15: Grayzone warfare is basically warfare in the gray zone. 413 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 16: Between peace. 414 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 4: And full on kinetic. 415 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 15: Warfare that we normally think of when we think of warfare, Scott, 416 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 15: we think of bullets, we think of bombs, we think 417 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 15: of tanks, we think of fighters. So that's what we 418 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 15: call war. Everybody would agree on that, World War two, 419 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 15: you name it. Right on the other side of that 420 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 15: is just complete peace. So in the middle of this 421 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 15: massive gray zone, and in the gray zone is where 422 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 15: a lot of our adversaries want to live. They don't 423 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 15: want peace with us, they don't like us. They are 424 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 15: enemy or adversary, but they can't engage in traditional warfare. 425 00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 15: Some of them can't engage in traditional warfare yet. 426 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 16: Because they're not able. They would get they would lose. 427 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 15: So the gray zone is where a lot of conduct 428 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 15: occurs that wouldn't necessarily qualify as traditional warfare, but it 429 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 15: hurts us and it gives our adversaries an advantage. 430 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 16: So let me give you some examples cyber attacks. 431 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 15: Now, when I'm talking about these examples, I'm not talking 432 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 15: about rogue, random kids on the couch. I'm talking about 433 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 15: engagement by foreign governments. Let's take the Chinese right, or 434 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 15: North Korea, whatever, engagement by foreign governments or at a minimum, 435 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:58,360 Speaker 15: foreign governments blessing encouraging fomenting that sort of activity. So 436 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 15: one would be cyber attack. We have cyber attacks that 437 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 15: disrupt shut down certain companies or certain power infrastructure. We 438 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 15: have cyber attacks that still information all of those sorts 439 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 15: of things, and oftentimes in the gray zone, the government 440 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 15: of a country, let's say China is the one engaged 441 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 15: in this. Now that does not typically that's not typically 442 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 15: characterize as full on war, right, But there is a 443 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 15: gradient spectrum. So if you attack them, if they attacked 444 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 15: us or one of our companies instole our information, would 445 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 15: that be war traditional war? 446 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 16: Would that lead to bombs? Probably not? 447 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 7: Right? 448 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 15: Well, what if they shut down a bunch of hospitals 449 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 15: and no one dies? 450 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 16: Probably not. 451 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,199 Speaker 15: What if they shut down a bunch of hospitals and 452 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 15: many people die. You can see it's a gradient spectrum. 453 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 15: And the further the more damage is done in the 454 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 15: gray zone, the closer you get to war. Fentonel distribution 455 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 15: that kills Americans when it's intentional by the Chinese government, 456 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 15: which it is, And I could go into all that 457 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 15: that's well documented. Illicit massage parlors. I don't mean one 458 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 15: or two by local people. I'm talking about more Chinese 459 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 15: operated illicit massage parlors in this country. As we have McDonald's, 460 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,400 Speaker 15: we have as many as many as. 461 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 3: You're saying, there's as many of that as McDonald's. 462 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 15: Wow, as many as McDonald's. This is well documented. There's 463 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 15: a great group out of Virginia, the Network, and they 464 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 15: track these we have so I used to think that 465 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,439 Speaker 15: these were sort of mom and pop criminals. 466 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 16: In local communities. 467 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 15: But what we found out over time at every single 468 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 15: one that we have rated illicit massage parlors, every single 469 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 15: one of them has been Chinese tied wire transfers to 470 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 15: mainland China Chinese currency. Think about that Chinese currency in 471 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 15: rural Arkansas, Okay. We have a guy, Gary Liu, that 472 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 15: we caught with the US Marshalls over in Oklahoma. He's 473 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 15: in a jail in Arkansas, ten million dollar bond. 474 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 16: He's a mid level human trafficker. 475 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 15: These are all these are not what we think of 476 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 15: as traditional prostitution locally run. These are human trafficking operations 477 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 15: in these massage parlors all over the country. So we've 478 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 15: interviewed numerous witnesses and they basically say that they they're 479 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 15: Chinese citizens who ladies, women and miners are often the 480 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 15: victims in these in these traffic trafficking ranks, but they 481 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 15: respond to ads in China for work in the US. 482 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 15: They don't know what kind they come over. They're broad 483 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 15: in and then they are sent to particular areas and 484 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 15: then they're moved around. But they're basically sex slaves. And 485 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 15: the bottom the general gist of that was they were 486 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 15: told to code to a certain place either on the 487 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 15: border with Mexico at Texas or California, and we asked them, 488 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 15: how did you get into the US. They walked across 489 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 15: the border and said asylum. And then they most of 490 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 15: them only speak Mandarin through interpreters, they knew where to say. 491 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 15: They needed to go, either Monterey Park, California, or Flushing, 492 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 15: New York. Those are the two main hubs. But this 493 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 15: has not happened and we have not found that it's 494 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 15: happened in the last year. This was all when the 495 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 15: border was not being secure. 496 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 3: Damn about it. We've got it. Yeah, yeah, we've got 497 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 3: about a minute to go. 498 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 2: I want to give you a chance to tell me, 499 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 2: as Attorney General what I mean. I'll be honest listening 500 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 2: to you talk about this, China seems to be more 501 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 2: of an interference in our day to day life, just 502 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 2: in average communities than most people would know. I mean, 503 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 2: is is that a big surprise when you took this 504 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 2: job as Attorney general when you got elected, were you 505 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 2: I mean, has this been a shock to you? 506 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 3: It is to me. 507 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 15: Well, I knew that they were working to undermine us 508 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 15: in our society. I did not know the number of 509 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 15: ways they were doing it in all of our backyards. 510 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 15: Here's the way to think of the gray zone. Think 511 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 15: of it as a hub, and there's all these spokes 512 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 15: of activity. So there's the fentanyl trade killing Americans. Normally 513 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 15: war costs money. They're killing Americans and making money. 514 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 17: Right. 515 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 16: You have the illicit sexual massage. 516 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 15: You have the farm land that they're getting for strategic advantage. 517 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 16: You have the stealing of intellectual property. 518 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 15: We had a case with the Feds here where they 519 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 15: stole rice seed for the genetic makeup to. 520 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 16: Grow more at home. 521 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 15: We have the smuggling in of bio weapons, as you 522 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 15: saw from Wuhan a few months ago. The FEDS called somebody, 523 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 15: I think it was in Michigan. Each of the you 524 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 15: have cyber attacks, Each of these are spokes on the 525 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 15: gray zone hub. And if you think of it that way, 526 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 15: you see we are in a way. 527 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 2: Already in confide. Yeah, we're fighting them. That's Arkansas Attorney 528 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 2: General Tim Griffin. Thanks for these insights today. When we 529 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 2: come back, Marco Rubio's on Capitol Hill, stay. 530 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 13: With us conversation said stories you simply won't hear from 531 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 13: the mainstream media. 532 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 2: It's the scutch at a show rounding out the hour 533 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 2: here with Capitol Hill coverage. Secretary of State Marco Rubia 534 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 2: testified today he may still be there actually in front 535 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 2: of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Rubio again proving himself 536 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 2: to be the president's most able communicator, especially on world affairs. 537 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 2: The hearing was about Venezuela, Rubio laying out the importance 538 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 2: of taking out Maduro. 539 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 3: Here's cut seven. 540 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 18: Let me just say this, what is our goal going 541 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 18: in We had in our hemisphere a regime operated by 542 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 18: an indicted narco trafficker that became a base of operation 543 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 18: for virtually every competitor, adversary, and enemy in the world. 544 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 18: It was for Iran, their primary spot of operation in 545 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 18: the Western Hemisphere was Venezuela. For Russia, their primary base 546 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 18: of operation in the Western Hemisphere along Cuba and Nicaragua 547 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 18: was Venezuela. In the case of China, China was receiving 548 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 18: oil at a huge buck twenty dollars a barrel discount, 549 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 18: and what they weren't even paying money for it. 550 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 4: It was being used to pay down debt that they 551 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 4: were owed. 552 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 18: This is the oil of the people of Venezuela, and 553 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 18: it was being given to the Chinese as barter at 554 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 18: a twenty percent at a twenty dollars discount pervaro in 555 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 18: some cases. And so you had basically three of our 556 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 18: primary opponents in the world operating from our hemisphere. From 557 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 18: that spot, it was also a place where we had 558 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 18: a narco trafficking regime that openly cooperated with the FARC 559 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 18: and the ELN and other drag dug trafficking organizations using 560 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 18: their national territory. 561 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 4: It was an enormous. 562 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 18: Strategic risk for the United States, not halfway around the world, 563 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 18: not in another continent, but in the hemisphere in which 564 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 18: we all live, and it was having dramatic impacts on us, 565 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 18: but also on Columbia and on the Caribbean basin and 566 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 18: all sorts of other places. It was an untenable situation 567 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 18: and it had to be addressed, and it was addressed, 568 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 18: And now the question becomes what happens moving forward as 569 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 18: I've described to you in previous settings and in individual conversations, 570 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 18: we had three objectives here the final I'll work it 571 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 18: backwards because the end state here is we want to 572 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 18: reach a phase of transition where we are left with 573 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 18: a friendly, stable, prosperous Venezuela. 574 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 2: Marco Rubio running circles around the Democrats on the committee 575 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 2: today and making clear that our adversaries, the Russians, the Chinese, 576 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 2: and the Iranians all had a foothold in our hemisphere 577 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 2: because of Maduro. I want you to listen here to Rubio, 578 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 2: by the way, separate the good guys from the bad guys. 579 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 3: Here's cut twelve. 580 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 18: Owner gets complicated, I'll certainly let you know, but our 581 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 18: anticipation is that we're going to be able to continue 582 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 18: to work cooperatively with them because it's in their interest. 583 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 18: In hours, but I will point out to this, after 584 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 18: this operation happened, look at the people who criticized it, 585 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 18: and there were others China, Russia, Iran, Hamas. These are 586 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 18: the people that were upset about this strike and this 587 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 18: raid and what we did. And I can tell you 588 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 18: that in many countries in the Western hemisphere, there was 589 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 18: great pleasure in the fact that Maduro was removed and 590 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 18: that it didn't involve in all that war and innovation. 591 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 2: Rubio there responding to Democrats on the committee who were 592 00:33:55,600 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 2: harping on him today about Venezuela, and he pretty much 593 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 2: which made it clear criticizing the president on Venezuela today 594 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 2: meant joining up with China. 595 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 3: Russia, Iran and himas it was brilliant. 596 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 2: One final clip from Rubio, this is cut number nine, 597 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 2: about how Venezuela could return to being a prosperous nation. 598 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 18: The Iranian presence, the Chinese influence, the Russian presence as well. 599 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:22,879 Speaker 18: In fact, I would tell you that there are many 600 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 18: elements there in Venezuela that welcome or returned to establishing 601 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 18: relations to the United States on multiple fronts. We are 602 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 18: at the end talking about a western country that has 603 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,919 Speaker 18: a long history of cooperation and work with the United States. 604 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 18: At one time, Venezuela preach obas was a very strong 605 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 18: US ally and we hope to get back to that point. 606 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:40,439 Speaker 4: We're not there. 607 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,760 Speaker 18: This thing still is in his infancy, but I certainly 608 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 18: think a lot of progresses have been made in that regard. 609 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 9: I was impressed with your description of the fact how 610 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 9: careful you were in there. 611 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,280 Speaker 2: Marco Rubio today testifying in front of the Senate Foreign 612 00:34:55,320 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 2: Relations Committee about Venezuela and once again showing why the 613 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 2: President trust him so much and why the President's given 614 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 2: him so many jobs. We're coming down to the last 615 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 2: few seconds here of our number one of the Scott 616 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 2: Jennings Show. We do have a little bit of breaking 617 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 2: news just into the show. According to this report, the 618 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 2: FBI is now executing a search warrant at a Fulton 619 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 2: County election office in Georgia related to the twenty twenty election. 620 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 2: I don't have anything more than the headline at the moment, 621 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 2: but again the news is the FBI is executing a 622 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:36,240 Speaker 2: search warrant at a Fulton County election office in Georgia 623 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 2: related to the twenty twenty election. The other news of 624 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 2: the hour that we haven't discussed, the person who squirted 625 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 2: some kind of a substance on ilhan Omar at her 626 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 2: town hall meeting last night has been arrested, and it 627 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 2: seems like the substance has been identified as apple cider 628 00:35:55,440 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 2: vinegar so ilhan Omar is unharmed by the apple cider 629 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 2: vinegar attack, but the substance has been identified. We'll take 630 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 2: a break and we'll come back. It's more common sense 631 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 2: for the American people. Scott Jennings is on Salem. Stay 632 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 2: with us, common sense for the American people. This is 633 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 2: the Scott. 634 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 14: Jenny Show, the voice of free speech. 635 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:25,760 Speaker 1: The truth delivered, common sense for the American people. Welcome 636 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: to the Scott Jenning Show. It's Wednesday, January twenty eighth. 637 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 1: Common Sense for the American People. Scott Jennings broadcasting from 638 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: your nation's capital. We have some breaking news into the 639 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: show to start this hour. This is a message sent 640 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 1: moments ago from the Attorney General, Pam Bondi. She is 641 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: on the ground in Minnesota and she says that federal 642 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 1: agents have arrested sixteen Minnesota rioters for allegedly assaulting federal 643 00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,360 Speaker 1: law enforcement people who have been resisting and in heating 644 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: federal law enforcement agents. Bondi says, we expect more arrests 645 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 1: to come. We'll keep an eye on this. 646 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,840 Speaker 2: Coming up this hour, Jessica Schwab from The Free Beacon 647 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 2: has some new reporting anti Semitism at Columbia University. Back 648 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 2: in the news, Jessica's been the intrepid reporter uncovering the 649 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 2: malfeasan set Columbia. 650 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 3: We'll get her on the line shortly. 651 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 2: Alabama Senator and gubernatorial candidate Tommy Tuberville joins us at 652 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,879 Speaker 2: the bottom of the hour thirty three minutes past the hour. 653 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 2: Let's start, however, with the news of the day. Here 654 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 2: in Washington, President Trump and Treasury Secretary Scott Besson held 655 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 2: a big event today to promote the new Trump accounts 656 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 2: that were included in the Big Beautiful Bill last summer. 657 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 2: Trump Accounts our tax advantaged custodial style investment accounts for 658 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 2: children designed for long term wealth building. The US Treasury 659 00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 2: provides a one thousand dollars seed deposit for babies born 660 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 2: between twenty twenty five and twenty twenty eight. You can 661 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 2: do five thousand dollars in annual contributions until they turn eighteen. 662 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 2: The accounts can be opened in early twenty twenty six. 663 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,760 Speaker 2: President Trump himself touted the value of these accounts today. 664 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 3: Let's hear cut eleven account. 665 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 17: Should reach at least fifty thousand dollars in value by 666 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 17: the time the child turns eighteen, and could be very 667 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 17: substantially more than that with slightly greater contributions to the 668 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 17: typical account will grow to one hundred thousand, two hundred thousand, 669 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 17: and can even grow up to pass three hundred thousand 670 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 17: dollars per child, and we think, most likely the most 671 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 17: likely cases in the two hundred thousand three hundred thousand range, 672 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 17: the size and scale of this wealth will do off 673 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,359 Speaker 17: All government programs ever created to benefit America's youth has 674 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 17: never been anything like this. That's why everybody's talking about it. 675 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 2: Even joining us on the line here at the Scott 676 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 2: Jennings Show is Joe Lavornia, economist and counselor to Treasury 677 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 2: Secretary Scott Bessett. You've heard Joe on here before talking 678 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:11,760 Speaker 2: about economic news. 679 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 3: Joe, welcome back to the show. 680 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:15,800 Speaker 7: Thanks for having me. Scott. 681 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, glad you're here, because this was a huge event. 682 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 2: I saw President Trump, I saw Scott Bessett, I saw 683 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 2: Kevin O'Leary, mister wonderful, I saw NICKI minaj of all 684 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 2: people there today, and everybody was bringing attention to these 685 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 2: Trump accounts which are now active. So tell us how 686 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 2: does this work? How do you get your kids signed 687 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 2: up for a Trump account? 688 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:39,280 Speaker 7: Yeah? 689 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,760 Speaker 19: Well, yeah, certainly the president knows how to brandon market 690 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 19: and I've gotten certainly a tremendous amount of press, and 691 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,359 Speaker 19: that was one of the reasons why we wanted to 692 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 19: do the summit. And he's got a lot of companies 693 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 19: across all different industries, the white swath of large companies 694 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 19: that are going to be partaking in this as well 695 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 19: more wealthy philanthropists and such. 696 00:39:58,680 --> 00:39:59,760 Speaker 7: So it's all great news. 697 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 19: Essentially. You can go to very simple you go to 698 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 19: Trump Accounts dot gov and sign up there, or when 699 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 19: you're filing your taxes for this year, you go to 700 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 19: Form forty five forty seven. You can sign up there 701 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 19: and the government will put the money in the account 702 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 19: around July fourth. You will choose a low cost index 703 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:27,000 Speaker 19: fund that broadly mimics the broader market or some other 704 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 19: market based account. They'll have low costs, and we'll proxy 705 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 19: the US stock market, which has been an engine of 706 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 19: value creation or engine of wealth, as the President highlighted 707 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 19: for decades, and that hopefully will likely be the case, 708 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 19: especially President Trump's policies in place. 709 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 2: The kids that are eligible here have to be born 710 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 2: between January first, twenty twenty five and twenty twenty eight. 711 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 3: Is that right? 712 00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 20: That is correct? 713 00:40:59,080 --> 00:40:59,720 Speaker 7: That is correct? 714 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,919 Speaker 19: If you were born before twenty twenty five. You can 715 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:09,360 Speaker 19: still invest five thousand dollars tax free. You just won't 716 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 19: get the benefit of the one thousand seed investment or 717 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 19: seed countital that's the treasure will be making. 718 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 2: So I'll just give you my example. I have four 719 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 2: kids sixteen, twelve, ten, and eight. You're saying they could 720 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 2: all get a Trump account and we could put five 721 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:29,799 Speaker 2: thousand dollars in the accounts. Correct, Okay, Well that's we'll 722 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 2: have to get the Jennings financial wizards on the line 723 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 2: after the show today and get working on that. I 724 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 2: was I had been thinking this was just for these babies, 725 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 2: and now everybody can do it. 726 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 3: That's terrific. So tell us about the investments. 727 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 2: So these accounts get opened up and they're tied to 728 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 2: the performance of the stock market. 729 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:47,400 Speaker 3: How does that work? 730 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:48,759 Speaker 7: Right? 731 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,399 Speaker 4: So, I mean, I'm not sure. 732 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 19: I haven't seen the you know, everything is there's still 733 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,479 Speaker 19: more details coming out, but essentially, you know, it would 734 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 19: be like a like like an. 735 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 7: F and P. 736 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 20: Five hundred that's in P. 737 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 19: Five hundred is a very familiar benchmarket covers, you know, 738 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,919 Speaker 19: the broad market. You know the five hundred I guess 739 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 19: best most important company, So to speak, you'd buy something 740 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,799 Speaker 19: that mimics that performance, so you get the exposure to 741 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 19: the stock market, but at a low cost. 742 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 20: So the transaction. 743 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,720 Speaker 19: Fees are basically or the cost of maintaining that account 744 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,359 Speaker 19: are are deminimus. Because what we want to be able 745 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 19: to do is have young boys and girls have exposure 746 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,399 Speaker 19: to the stock market and the most efficient way that's 747 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 19: most likely to capture the upside that the stock market 748 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,280 Speaker 19: historically has provided. 749 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 2: So when the kid turns eighteen years old, they get 750 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,360 Speaker 2: full access to this account. At that point, the money 751 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,720 Speaker 2: becomes theirs and they can do with it what they want. 752 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 20: That's correct. 753 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 19: It almost kind of works, and they could keep it 754 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 19: in longer, which I would hope they would because they're 755 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,799 Speaker 19: going to have great returns and they they'll make more 756 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,839 Speaker 19: from compounding its low or they keep it in. 757 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,280 Speaker 20: But at that point, yes, at eighteen, it's theirs. 758 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,799 Speaker 19: It goes from the custodian ship from the parent to 759 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 19: the child or the adult now and then it's effectively 760 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,799 Speaker 19: works as like an IRA in some sense, you'd be 761 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 19: taxed on the you know, on the on the money's 762 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,760 Speaker 19: made over that time if you were to take it out. 763 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 2: So you can leave it in though, so when the 764 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,400 Speaker 2: kid turns eighteen, that you can choose to just let 765 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:23,920 Speaker 2: it keep growing, is what you're saying. 766 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 19: That's exactly right, That's exactly right. And I think that 767 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 19: you know, given you know that, you know there's a 768 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 19: huge in some sense imply financial literacy components of this, 769 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 19: because people are going to see their savings growing, and 770 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 19: the longer they leave it in, the more it's going 771 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,400 Speaker 19: to grow. And hopefully they'll leave it for that exact 772 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,959 Speaker 19: reason and continue and continue to contribute during this time. 773 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,359 Speaker 19: And by the way, you can give up to five 774 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 19: thousand annually and it doesn't have to just be you know, 775 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,719 Speaker 19: a parent or a guardian. 776 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 7: Or family member. 777 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:53,080 Speaker 19: It could be an employer. 778 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:54,319 Speaker 20: Employers are allowed to give. 779 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:58,080 Speaker 19: Up to twenty five hundred dollars that doesn't count as 780 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 19: employee income to the program as well. 781 00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 7: So you know, there's a lot of ways. 782 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 19: You could contribute and really build this in a meaningful 783 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 19: way so that when the time is up, whenever you 784 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 19: decide to take it out, you have a substantial amount 785 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,719 Speaker 19: of savings. You really got financial security or is the 786 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,280 Speaker 19: President highlighted earlier today, you know it's never. 787 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:15,760 Speaker 7: Been done before. 788 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,399 Speaker 19: This is going to be a real novel event that's 789 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 19: really going to help working class families. You know, a 790 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 19: large percentage of which to this day don't have any 791 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:24,840 Speaker 19: stock market exposure. 792 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 2: So what you're saying is is that an employer could 793 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:33,719 Speaker 2: give a twenty five hundred dollars bonus to an employee 794 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 2: but give it to these Trump accounts for their kids, 795 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,880 Speaker 2: and that would not count as taxable income. That is 796 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 2: a well, that is a great but you know, if 797 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,440 Speaker 2: you were trying to do something for your employees, that's 798 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 2: a great thing to do. Give twenty five hundred dollars 799 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:48,240 Speaker 2: to a kid's account. It doesn't count against you on taxes. 800 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,279 Speaker 2: That that what a great benefit that would be if 801 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:51,840 Speaker 2: a business decided to do that. 802 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 19: Yep, And that's why, you know, that's why so many 803 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 19: of these companies now, just in the last day, even 804 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 19: today in America, I believe one of the latest saying 805 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 19: they're going to partake in this program. Uh, I mean, 806 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,840 Speaker 19: it's hard, hard, what's not to like? 807 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 20: That's a rhetorical question, of course. 808 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 2: Scott, that's Joe Lavornia. I know that, sir. Thank you 809 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:15,840 Speaker 2: for telling me. Though I'm. 810 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,680 Speaker 3: I appreciate the I appreciate the k I knew it. 811 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,800 Speaker 3: I knew it. That's Joe. That's Joe Lavornia. 812 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,880 Speaker 2: He's economist and counselor to Treasury Secretary Scott Vessett, and 813 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,439 Speaker 2: he and the Treasury guys and the White House team 814 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 2: were uh rolling out these Trump accounts today. 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We're looking back into the story about anti 851 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 2: Semitism on college campuses and wouldn't you know it, Columbia 852 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:35,280 Speaker 2: University back in the news. The headline today Columbia vowed 853 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:42,239 Speaker 2: to expel Kaimanni James, who fantasized about murdering Zionists, and 854 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,080 Speaker 2: he could return this fall with this report. 855 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:46,000 Speaker 3: Joining us now. 856 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:50,759 Speaker 2: Jessica Schwab, a reporter for the Washington Free Beacon. Jessica, 857 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,000 Speaker 2: thanks for coming back to the Scott Jennings show. 858 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:53,920 Speaker 3: Let's start with this. 859 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:59,040 Speaker 2: Who is this character, Kaimanni James at Columbia University. 860 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,880 Speaker 10: Yeah, thank you Scott for having me. Kimani James was 861 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:09,320 Speaker 10: really the face of the anti Israel and what became 862 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 10: the very overtly anti Semitic movement on Columbia's campus. He 863 00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:19,640 Speaker 10: I think really stood out because he was just so 864 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 10: proud of his anti Semitic remarks and behavior, especially during 865 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:31,360 Speaker 10: an incident that happened in April twenty twenty four where 866 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 10: I actually happened to capture. 867 00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:34,560 Speaker 4: This on video. 868 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,720 Speaker 10: I had walked into the encampments and within a minute 869 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,799 Speaker 10: he had accosted the few friends and I who had 870 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,840 Speaker 10: walked in just looking to observe we came in peace, 871 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,960 Speaker 10: and he rallied a mob of roughly two hundred people, 872 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,839 Speaker 10: all of these heads popped out of the tents on 873 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,200 Speaker 10: the campus squad and he said, we have Zionis on 874 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 10: the encampment. Let's form a human chains where I'm standing 875 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,799 Speaker 10: so we can kick them out. And that's what the 876 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:07,520 Speaker 10: group did. They followed him like a demagogue. And so 877 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,839 Speaker 10: the fact that there is a possibility for him to 878 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:16,759 Speaker 10: rejoin the Columbia community in fall twenty twenty six is 879 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:21,120 Speaker 10: a surprising opportunity that they would give this student who 880 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:26,960 Speaker 10: has demonstrated that he is not on campus to build 881 00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,480 Speaker 10: civil discourse, but most just to disrupt. 882 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:35,600 Speaker 2: So who makes this decision at Columbia, Jessica, Is it 883 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,080 Speaker 2: lie with the president of the university. Is there a 884 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:42,080 Speaker 2: dean who will ultimately make the call on bringing this 885 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:42,719 Speaker 2: person back? 886 00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:49,440 Speaker 10: Yeah, so the admissions decision falled to the admissions committee 887 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,319 Speaker 10: at Columbia. However, it seems in this case, which is 888 00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:59,320 Speaker 10: quite exceptional, that the president would have a final say 889 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:03,000 Speaker 10: over this matter. That part is a bit unclear. However, 890 00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:07,120 Speaker 10: now that Colombia has a new president, it seems that 891 00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:12,760 Speaker 10: the decision to allow him back onto campus would fall 892 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,440 Speaker 10: in her hands right around the time when she herself, 893 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:21,400 Speaker 10: Jennifer Minuken is taking the reins of this in battled university. 894 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,680 Speaker 2: Okay, according to your report, if they bring him back, 895 00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,239 Speaker 2: it would go against what Columbia claimed when he was 896 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:33,120 Speaker 2: expelled and what they told Congress. There was a hearing 897 00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:37,000 Speaker 2: of the House Committee on Education and Workforce chaired by 898 00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:42,400 Speaker 2: Representative Virginia Fox, and in September, the university president said 899 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,000 Speaker 2: they made a direct statement that Kaimanni James would be 900 00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:50,120 Speaker 2: expelled for his anti Semitic rhetoric. So if the new 901 00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:53,680 Speaker 2: president here at Columbia goes back on that, what are 902 00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,319 Speaker 2: the implications there about what they told Congress at that 903 00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:57,200 Speaker 2: particular hearing. 904 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:03,360 Speaker 10: Yeah, surprise me if maybe there might be another congressional hearing, 905 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,799 Speaker 10: that's not out of the question in my mind. As 906 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:12,600 Speaker 10: they did tell Virginia Fox, they made a direct statement, 907 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,920 Speaker 10: as you said, that this student would be expelled, and 908 00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:21,560 Speaker 10: clearly he wasn't. And so it's really an open question 909 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,439 Speaker 10: as to how the university is going to respond to 910 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:28,919 Speaker 10: his application should he apply for the fall twenty twenty 911 00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:32,000 Speaker 10: sixth semester. They did reject his bid to re enroll 912 00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:37,279 Speaker 10: in the fall twenty twenty five semester, and so I'm 913 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,480 Speaker 10: not sure how James intends to sort of clean up 914 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:44,440 Speaker 10: his act to make his application more appealing in the 915 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,720 Speaker 10: next many months. 916 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:51,120 Speaker 2: But we'll see Jessica, I've got about thirty seconds. You've 917 00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,600 Speaker 2: been in and out of these encampments. You've covered this deeply. 918 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,960 Speaker 2: Did Jewish students feel safe as we talk today at 919 00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,759 Speaker 2: Columbia University? 920 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:06,640 Speaker 10: I think that turmoil has clearly not gone away, but 921 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:11,040 Speaker 10: the university seems to have kept their radicals on a 922 00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:17,319 Speaker 10: tighter leash. However, this new president, there's some questions left open, 923 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:22,200 Speaker 10: given that she struck a deal with her own campus's 924 00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:29,080 Speaker 10: Gaza solidarity encampment following the radicals occupation of this major 925 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:34,600 Speaker 10: campus nexus, and so we would like to see that 926 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:39,720 Speaker 10: Jewish students have nothing to fear, especially with this person 927 00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:43,920 Speaker 10: possibly coming back. But yeah, I think there's a mixed 928 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:45,600 Speaker 10: feelings some campus. 929 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,839 Speaker 2: Still still some open questions out there. Jessica Schwab read 930 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,759 Speaker 2: her reporting in The Free Bacon. It's common sense for 931 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:56,879 Speaker 2: the American people, stay with us. Wednesday, January twenty eighth, 932 00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,480 Speaker 2: common sense for the American people. Scott Jennings, according to 933 00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,720 Speaker 2: You Live from Your Nation's Capital, breaking news into the show, 934 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,120 Speaker 2: looks like the Fed says there will be no rate 935 00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:10,279 Speaker 2: cut today, rates staying at three and a half to 936 00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:14,439 Speaker 2: three point seventy five percent. So that's just coming out 937 00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:18,280 Speaker 2: of the Federal Reserve. Rounding out the show today, big 938 00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,400 Speaker 2: honor for me to have on our next guest. He 939 00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:25,799 Speaker 2: is senator from Alabama. He is running for governor of Alabama, 940 00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:28,719 Speaker 2: and he's one of the most legendary football coaches in 941 00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:32,840 Speaker 2: American history. Coach Tommy Tubberville. Welcome to the Scott Jennings Show. 942 00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:35,319 Speaker 7: Thank you, Scott, thanks for having me on. 943 00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,960 Speaker 20: It's an honor and a privilege. 944 00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:39,560 Speaker 7: I love your work. 945 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,799 Speaker 20: And I try to fashion myself after you about how 946 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,799 Speaker 20: you can debate and get on of these people's skin 947 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,120 Speaker 20: on the left. But at the end of the day, 948 00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,600 Speaker 20: we're all on the same team and hopefully we can 949 00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:51,879 Speaker 20: get this mess straightened out. 950 00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,879 Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad, I'm honored by your compliments, sir, and 951 00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,480 Speaker 2: I'm glad to have you on this momentous day. We 952 00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,480 Speaker 2: have breaking news that I think you are uniquely qualified 953 00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:05,799 Speaker 2: to comment upon. How is it that Bill Belichick was 954 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,719 Speaker 2: snubbed by the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Everybody I 955 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,040 Speaker 2: know is going crazy about this. What's going on with 956 00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:14,400 Speaker 2: these guys? Bill Belichick? Six Super Bowls? What do you 957 00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:14,920 Speaker 2: make of it? 958 00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:20,040 Speaker 20: Yeah, it's just it's just the sign of times. You know, 959 00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:21,759 Speaker 20: at the end of the day, one of the better 960 00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:26,319 Speaker 20: coaches ever. And you don't judge people on what they 961 00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,480 Speaker 20: are today. You judge them on what they what they 962 00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,000 Speaker 20: did while they were NFL and had a lot of 963 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:32,719 Speaker 20: people look at you know, probably the. 964 00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,080 Speaker 7: Last year his girlfriend. 965 00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:38,160 Speaker 20: And and you know, not a very good year at 966 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:39,160 Speaker 20: North Carolina. 967 00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:41,880 Speaker 7: But a guy that wins all those. 968 00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:48,799 Speaker 20: Super Bowls and again he has made so many record books. 969 00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:51,880 Speaker 20: It's it's a disgrace. And the people that are on 970 00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,240 Speaker 20: that committee that did not vote for him should step 971 00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,439 Speaker 20: down immediately because they have no business being owned there. 972 00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:01,360 Speaker 20: It's just I hated for him, but I hate it 973 00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,600 Speaker 20: for the NFL our. NFL is in a tail spend 974 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,520 Speaker 20: and they hadn't been a tail spend for twenty years 975 00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,319 Speaker 20: since Colin Kaepernick took a knee and in all this 976 00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:12,719 Speaker 20: woke nonsense and now you I don't call this a 977 00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,560 Speaker 20: Super Bowl with this rabbit or the money guy or 978 00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:16,760 Speaker 20: whatever he is at halftime. 979 00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:17,640 Speaker 7: I call it. 980 00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:20,120 Speaker 20: I call it the woke Bowl. And that's what it's 981 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,080 Speaker 20: turning in to be. It's you know, it's just it's 982 00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:27,320 Speaker 20: all about money and getting out there and not representing 983 00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:31,640 Speaker 20: our country. It is representing themselves and showing how great 984 00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:35,160 Speaker 20: they are. You know, it's it's sad how we've let 985 00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:36,560 Speaker 20: team sports get to this part. 986 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,960 Speaker 2: Coach Dubberville, what do you make of college football and 987 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:44,280 Speaker 2: college athletics today with the advent of paying the players 988 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,719 Speaker 2: with gambling now we had a big round of indictments 989 00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:51,200 Speaker 2: on college betting the other day. What's your overall view 990 00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:54,200 Speaker 2: of how college athletics is working in this country? And 991 00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,600 Speaker 2: does Congress need to step in on any of these issues? 992 00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:58,640 Speaker 7: Oh? Big time. It's a disaster. 993 00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,200 Speaker 20: I've had a bill that Joe Manchin I came up 994 00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,359 Speaker 20: with a few years ago, and Schumer wanted to put 995 00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,240 Speaker 20: unionization in it and wouldn't put it on the floor. 996 00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,840 Speaker 20: But it's a disaster. There's no leadership we you know, 997 00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:18,239 Speaker 20: the NCAA they decided after their five hundred lawsuit, they 998 00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,560 Speaker 20: said we're out of this mess. There's no way we 999 00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:25,719 Speaker 20: can regulate this, and really they were probably right. But 1000 00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:31,080 Speaker 20: what we've done is we've almost destroyed women's sports, Olympic sports, 1001 00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,960 Speaker 20: and the sports that people really love college basketball, men 1002 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:39,200 Speaker 20: and women and football, college football. It's a disaster and 1003 00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,200 Speaker 20: it's gonna get worse before it gets better. I don't 1004 00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:47,000 Speaker 20: know the answer to it. I cannot stand the attitude 1005 00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,680 Speaker 20: of there's no education to it anymore. You have kids 1006 00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,799 Speaker 20: that are transferring every year, and if you transfer one time, 1007 00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:54,640 Speaker 20: you're very lucky to be able to get a degree. 1008 00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,120 Speaker 20: But it's just Scott, it's just off the deep end. 1009 00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:01,040 Speaker 20: It's kind of like the country we lost. There's no 1010 00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:05,400 Speaker 20: basics anymore. And again, we've got to stand up to 1011 00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,399 Speaker 20: the people that say, hey, we want all this money. 1012 00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,160 Speaker 20: He say, listen, this is not about money. This is 1013 00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:13,000 Speaker 20: about education. I don't mind him making money, but don't 1014 00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:17,080 Speaker 20: destroy education from thousands and thousands of other people. 1015 00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:18,320 Speaker 7: Yeah. 1016 00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,760 Speaker 3: I was watching a press conference. I forget the kid's. 1017 00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,400 Speaker 2: Name, but you know they asked him about it was 1018 00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,720 Speaker 2: after one of the games that asked him about how 1019 00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,880 Speaker 2: things were going at school with all the football preparation. 1020 00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:30,680 Speaker 3: He said, oh, I graduated two years ago. 1021 00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,680 Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, this is like college athletics and we've 1022 00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,800 Speaker 2: got somebody that hasn't been in class in two years. 1023 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:37,720 Speaker 3: It's a little strange. 1024 00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,440 Speaker 20: Yeah, no education to it, Scott. And I've talked to 1025 00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,000 Speaker 20: the president about it. I hope we can get him 1026 00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:47,040 Speaker 20: to do something in terms of an executive order. That's 1027 00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:48,680 Speaker 20: the only way we can get anything done around here 1028 00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,600 Speaker 20: because Republicans we have the House, the Senate, and the 1029 00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,400 Speaker 20: White House, but we can't pass a bill because we 1030 00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,400 Speaker 20: have rhinos on the Republican side, we have people that 1031 00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,440 Speaker 20: don't want to stand up to the Democrats. It's just 1032 00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,880 Speaker 20: this one thing after another. When we've got all the 1033 00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,120 Speaker 20: power and we can't get a damn thing done up 1034 00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,680 Speaker 20: here because nobody wants to stand up for what's right. 1035 00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:09,560 Speaker 20: It just makes me sick at my stomach. 1036 00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,920 Speaker 2: Senator, is that why you're leaving Washington and running for governor? 1037 00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,440 Speaker 3: Are you sort of just tired of banging your head 1038 00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:18,720 Speaker 3: against the wall in Washington? You think you can get 1039 00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:20,040 Speaker 3: more done in Alabama. 1040 00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:22,640 Speaker 20: Yeah, you know I looked at it, Scott, for a year. 1041 00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,200 Speaker 20: About this time last year, I decided, I was, you know, 1042 00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,680 Speaker 20: it's time to go back to Alabama. You know, I 1043 00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,080 Speaker 20: looked at being because I'd only do it for six 1044 00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:30,840 Speaker 20: more years up here. 1045 00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:31,640 Speaker 7: What can I get done? 1046 00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:33,680 Speaker 20: You've got to be way up the totem pole on 1047 00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:37,120 Speaker 20: seniority here. It's not about merit, it's about seniority. And 1048 00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,480 Speaker 20: that's one thing that I dislike about the Senate. I 1049 00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:41,880 Speaker 20: don't know why we don't do things on merit, and 1050 00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,400 Speaker 20: we should do that all over the country. But I 1051 00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,280 Speaker 20: looked at the governor's race and I talked to the 1052 00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,440 Speaker 20: President about it, and you know, he's sending more power 1053 00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:51,320 Speaker 20: and the money back to the states and given the 1054 00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:54,600 Speaker 20: states more leeway of how you want to run your 1055 00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:56,800 Speaker 20: own state. And I told the President that and he 1056 00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,880 Speaker 20: agreed with me that you know, it's if you want 1057 00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:02,600 Speaker 20: to do that, you know, you know you'll you'll do 1058 00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,320 Speaker 20: good at it because you've put things together, You've made 1059 00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:08,600 Speaker 20: tough decisions. It's like you're running a big business, meaning 1060 00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,080 Speaker 20: in college football. And so yeah, I can get more 1061 00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,680 Speaker 20: done back in the state of Alabama as governor. H 1062 00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,600 Speaker 20: And again, it's just unfortunate up here, you know, when 1063 00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:19,720 Speaker 20: you're lowing the poll like I am and and a 1064 00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,960 Speaker 20: lot of other people, you have no say. 1065 00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:24,400 Speaker 3: One of the. 1066 00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,200 Speaker 2: Bills that a lot of conservatives right now are really 1067 00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:30,280 Speaker 2: hoping gets some momentum is the Save Act. You've been 1068 00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:33,560 Speaker 2: a longtime supporter of the Save Act. Tell us about 1069 00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,760 Speaker 2: the Save Act and what that would do for American 1070 00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:36,680 Speaker 2: election security. 1071 00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:42,200 Speaker 20: If we don't make our elections to where people trust 1072 00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:45,800 Speaker 20: them this country's over. And I think that had a 1073 00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,480 Speaker 20: lot to do when President went into Venezuela. A lot 1074 00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:50,560 Speaker 20: of other things, but one was that's where all the 1075 00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:55,520 Speaker 20: dominion voting machines and all the tech groups for running 1076 00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:58,320 Speaker 20: those machines out of Venezuela, and he's trying to get 1077 00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,880 Speaker 20: to the bottom of that. We need one day voting, 1078 01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:05,400 Speaker 20: we need paper ballots, and we need voter ID and 1079 01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,720 Speaker 20: if we don't get that before next November, we'll probably 1080 01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:13,160 Speaker 20: lose House, maybe even the Senate, and then heaven forbid 1081 01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:15,000 Speaker 20: what will happen in two years after that for the 1082 01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:18,920 Speaker 20: presidential race. But we as Republicans, Scott could stand up 1083 01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:22,240 Speaker 20: today and put it on the floor, and if they 1084 01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:26,080 Speaker 20: voted it down, we say, Okay, enough's enough. We're busting 1085 01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:29,160 Speaker 20: the filibuster and we're gonna vote this send because if 1086 01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:32,680 Speaker 20: we don't have rules and regulations going into this this 1087 01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:34,280 Speaker 20: section cycle. 1088 01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:37,920 Speaker 7: Coming up, they're gonna feed us. They're gonna let illegals. 1089 01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:41,600 Speaker 20: Vote, they're gonna miscount the ballots, they're gonna have voting 1090 01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:44,360 Speaker 20: machines that are that are off the sharks in terms 1091 01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:46,560 Speaker 20: of giving votes, just like they. 1092 01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:47,400 Speaker 7: Did in twenty twenty. 1093 01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:51,080 Speaker 20: That was an embarrassment to people in this country that 1094 01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:54,360 Speaker 20: want fair elections. When Joe Biden, they said he got 1095 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,200 Speaker 20: eighty million votes. There you couldn't mean. 1096 01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:58,280 Speaker 7: That guy couldn't get forty million votes. 1097 01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,160 Speaker 20: And it's it's just that, you know, we're to the 1098 01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,960 Speaker 20: point now where it's either to do something about it, 1099 01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,840 Speaker 20: shut the heck up, and just let the Democrats run 1100 01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:10,080 Speaker 20: this country into the ground and give communism to the 1101 01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:12,000 Speaker 20: American people, because that's what's going to happen. 1102 01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:16,360 Speaker 2: What's your radar tell you about the future of the 1103 01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:16,919 Speaker 2: Save Act? 1104 01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:18,600 Speaker 3: Do you think it will come to the floor. 1105 01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:20,439 Speaker 2: I know there's a few Republicans that have said they've 1106 01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:22,720 Speaker 2: had some issues with it. I mean, do you think 1107 01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:25,240 Speaker 2: you'll get to a place where the entire conference at 1108 01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:26,680 Speaker 2: least could support the Save Act? 1109 01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:31,880 Speaker 20: I would hope, but that would only be fifty three votes. 1110 01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:35,040 Speaker 7: We'd probably lose one or two. We always do because 1111 01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:36,320 Speaker 7: they don't trust President. 1112 01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:39,080 Speaker 20: Trump anything that makes sense. 1113 01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,360 Speaker 7: Up here. We have people vote with the Democrats and 1114 01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:42,160 Speaker 7: they go the other way. 1115 01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:47,760 Speaker 20: But that's just the way it is. And heaven forbid. 1116 01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:51,680 Speaker 20: Like I said, we've got what months to get this done, 1117 01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,760 Speaker 20: and they're getting ready to shut the government down, and 1118 01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:57,600 Speaker 20: we don't have enough nerve to say, listen, you won't 1119 01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:58,960 Speaker 20: shut it down. Shut it down, But we're going to 1120 01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:02,080 Speaker 20: vote our fifty three vot We need seventy y'all to 1121 01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:05,680 Speaker 20: vote with us to pass these bills. 1122 01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:07,840 Speaker 7: To not shut the government down. Well, we're scared to 1123 01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:08,520 Speaker 7: death of them. 1124 01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,600 Speaker 20: We have got to stand up to these people that 1125 01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:15,080 Speaker 20: want to change their country into something and it's not, 1126 01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:16,080 Speaker 20: which is communism. 1127 01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,040 Speaker 2: Well, they want to shut the government down. It sounds 1128 01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:22,680 Speaker 2: like over illegal immigration. And it's crazy to me how 1129 01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:27,280 Speaker 2: the Democratic Party has made illegal immigrant populations all over 1130 01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:30,480 Speaker 2: this country their number one constituency. Is it your prediction 1131 01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:32,520 Speaker 2: that we are going to see a shutdown? What do 1132 01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:33,800 Speaker 2: you think is going to happen here. 1133 01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:36,360 Speaker 7: Today? 1134 01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:40,680 Speaker 20: Unless we take the Homeland security out of this bill, 1135 01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:43,320 Speaker 20: which it doesn't make any difference, It doesn't make any sense. 1136 01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:46,840 Speaker 20: This is how stupid the Democrats are. There is funding 1137 01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:50,120 Speaker 20: for DHS in this bill, but DHS is already funded 1138 01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:51,920 Speaker 20: for four years because we did that in the big 1139 01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:56,400 Speaker 20: beautiful bill almost ninety billion dollars, So that's really off 1140 01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,880 Speaker 20: the table. What they would if they shut it down, 1141 01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:02,000 Speaker 20: they would shut down the TA. They was shut down 1142 01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:06,200 Speaker 20: the Coastguard, and they was shut down paying the military, 1143 01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:11,480 Speaker 20: and so it makes no sense that they would be 1144 01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:16,400 Speaker 20: defunding the people that we absolutely need to defend this country. 1145 01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:22,520 Speaker 20: But they're so stupid that they think that that we're 1146 01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:23,600 Speaker 20: not going to shut it down. 1147 01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:25,920 Speaker 7: But they might not be stupid. 1148 01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:28,479 Speaker 20: We might let them do it and shut it down 1149 01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:30,560 Speaker 20: and our vote along with them and. 1150 01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:32,439 Speaker 7: Give them what they want. 1151 01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:34,120 Speaker 20: But I wouldn't give them a damn inch because I'd 1152 01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:36,600 Speaker 20: say what they don't give us one thing, or didn't 1153 01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:39,160 Speaker 20: in four years that they were in charge. While I 1154 01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:41,880 Speaker 20: was here under Joe Biden, they looked at us and 1155 01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:45,360 Speaker 20: laughed at us, and we had Republicans vote with them. 1156 01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:48,520 Speaker 20: It just makes no sense. We have got to stand 1157 01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:50,200 Speaker 20: up now or this country. 1158 01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,440 Speaker 7: Is going to be gone. 1159 01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:55,440 Speaker 2: Senator Tubberville, one last question for you. I'm sure you're 1160 01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:59,120 Speaker 2: watching all of this unfolding nonsense in Minneapolis. What do 1161 01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:02,600 Speaker 2: you make of these Democrats up there who simply have 1162 01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:07,360 Speaker 2: decided they want to nullify federal immigration laws in their jurisdiction. 1163 01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:12,320 Speaker 20: When they're stealing our taxpayers blind, they are deep frauding. 1164 01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:14,840 Speaker 20: Are the taxpayers in this country stealing? 1165 01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:17,160 Speaker 7: Right and the left? That's what this is all about 1166 01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:18,040 Speaker 7: is a cover up. 1167 01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:20,120 Speaker 20: From the from the state government, to the city government, 1168 01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:21,040 Speaker 20: to the county government. 1169 01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:22,040 Speaker 7: They're all in on it. 1170 01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:28,040 Speaker 20: And they've got this lady what Elianne Omar congressman up 1171 01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:30,640 Speaker 20: there from a third world country who probably should be 1172 01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:35,360 Speaker 20: in jail because she falsified whatever to become a citizen. 1173 01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:37,440 Speaker 7: And then how about. 1174 01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:39,400 Speaker 20: That this morning where it looks like that World War 1175 01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,760 Speaker 20: II wrestling. You know, this guy sitting on the front 1176 01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:43,880 Speaker 20: row and he runs to the side like he's going. 1177 01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:45,120 Speaker 7: To touch but he doesn't go at her. 1178 01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:49,200 Speaker 20: He runs to the side and sprays what apple cider, Senator, 1179 01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,240 Speaker 20: the vinegar or something like that. 1180 01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:56,280 Speaker 7: It looked like wrestling. So Scott, I'll tell you what. 1181 01:04:56,400 --> 01:05:00,000 Speaker 20: It just disheartening to see our country go this direct 1182 01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,840 Speaker 20: when we need more and more people that will stand 1183 01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:06,400 Speaker 20: up to the communist socialists of this country and say 1184 01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,360 Speaker 20: you're not We're going to close our borders. President Thank 1185 01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:11,840 Speaker 20: god President Trump did that. We got to get these 1186 01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:13,760 Speaker 20: people out of here. Ninety eight percent of the country 1187 01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:17,280 Speaker 20: is going by the rule of law, but except for Minnesota, 1188 01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:19,400 Speaker 20: and what do they have in common? They are steers 1189 01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:23,240 Speaker 20: stealing the tax ers, blind stealing that is. 1190 01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:26,880 Speaker 2: That is Senator Tommy Tuberville of Alabama. More with him 1191 01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:28,920 Speaker 2: on his run for governor when we come back, it's 1192 01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,160 Speaker 2: common sense for the American people stay with. 1193 01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:35,360 Speaker 13: Us, straight talking, without the bluster, when you positively need 1194 01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:35,840 Speaker 13: the truth. 1195 01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:39,120 Speaker 14: This is where you come, Discutch any show. 1196 01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:43,360 Speaker 2: Home stretch here on Wednesday, January twenty eighth on the 1197 01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:48,440 Speaker 2: line with US coach. Senator and I think soon to 1198 01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:52,480 Speaker 2: be governor of Alabama, Tommy Tuberville is with US coach. 1199 01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:54,720 Speaker 2: Thanks for hanging on the line with us here. I 1200 01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:56,280 Speaker 2: want to talk a little bit about your run for 1201 01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:59,560 Speaker 2: governor of Alabama and here what your platform is. I 1202 01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:01,680 Speaker 2: do want to start with a question about taxes. You 1203 01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:05,840 Speaker 2: know a lot of red states have dramatically cut state 1204 01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:09,560 Speaker 2: income taxes or even phase them out altogether. Is that 1205 01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:12,400 Speaker 2: something that you are looking at if you become governor 1206 01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:15,360 Speaker 2: of Alabama major reductions in taxes on your people. 1207 01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:20,360 Speaker 20: Well that's a good point, Scott. And what is President 1208 01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:23,920 Speaker 20: Trump's agenda? Number one agenda is to grow this country 1209 01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:27,840 Speaker 20: and to do that, we have to bring manufacturing back. Now, 1210 01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:30,439 Speaker 20: there's not a day goes by or a week goes 1211 01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:32,720 Speaker 20: by up here in the Senate. I don't have manufacturing 1212 01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:35,080 Speaker 20: companies come to me from either the United States or 1213 01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,960 Speaker 20: from overseas and coach we want to move to Alabama. 1214 01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:41,160 Speaker 20: We know they're going to some of these other senators 1215 01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:43,560 Speaker 20: and doing the same thing in the local states, whether 1216 01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:47,200 Speaker 20: it's Florida or Georgia or Mississippi or Tennessee. Yes, we 1217 01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:49,880 Speaker 20: have to be able to compete to do that when 1218 01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:53,120 Speaker 20: other people Mississippi just started dropping their state income tax. 1219 01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:55,320 Speaker 7: They don't have state income tax in Florida. 1220 01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:59,320 Speaker 20: So in the future, we've got to look at some 1221 01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:03,840 Speaker 20: possible ways keep our tax base but also lord it 1222 01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:07,080 Speaker 20: to where we can encourage these businesses to come in 1223 01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:10,720 Speaker 20: with these high paying jobs. And so we'll look at 1224 01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:13,200 Speaker 20: all avenues. I'm not big on property tax, to be 1225 01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:17,080 Speaker 20: honest with you. Why and I've listened to Ron Desentis 1226 01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:19,720 Speaker 20: about this and formant. Why don't you have somebody buy 1227 01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:22,960 Speaker 20: the home and you never really own it because you've 1228 01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:26,240 Speaker 20: got to continue to pay to own it to either 1229 01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:29,480 Speaker 20: the state or the city or the county. And it 1230 01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:31,840 Speaker 20: just makes no sense to me. Now, I can understand 1231 01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:33,600 Speaker 20: people that have two or three homes that live in 1232 01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:36,760 Speaker 20: other states, and maybe you need the tax, but there's 1233 01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:39,240 Speaker 20: a lot of things that you can do to take 1234 01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:42,400 Speaker 20: the burden off the taxpayers. And I'm telling you those Scott, 1235 01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:45,880 Speaker 20: I'm hearing from people all over my state. Why should 1236 01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:49,200 Speaker 20: I pay any kind of taxes when there's no oversight 1237 01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:53,400 Speaker 20: and you're allowing people to steal us blind And I 1238 01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:54,600 Speaker 20: can't blame them. 1239 01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:55,480 Speaker 7: I know. 1240 01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:59,080 Speaker 2: Another big issue for you, coach is education policy. You 1241 01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:03,160 Speaker 2: strongly believe parents having a stronger role in education. What 1242 01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:06,560 Speaker 2: are you looking at in terms of changing education policy 1243 01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:09,080 Speaker 2: in Alabama to strengthen parents involvement? 1244 01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:11,560 Speaker 20: Yeah, well, you got to do you You got to 1245 01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:14,720 Speaker 20: go kids back to the parents. A lot of these schools, 1246 01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:19,040 Speaker 20: these tenured schools that are run by unions. You have 1247 01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:20,760 Speaker 20: a lot of a lot of these kids coming out of. 1248 01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:22,000 Speaker 7: These schools can't read and write. 1249 01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:23,800 Speaker 20: And if you can't read and write, you can't do math, 1250 01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:26,920 Speaker 20: do science, can't do history. Now I've dealt with I've 1251 01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:29,960 Speaker 20: been in almost every state in this country except for Alaska, 1252 01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:33,320 Speaker 20: visiting schools when I was recruiting on the high school 1253 01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:36,320 Speaker 20: or college levels, recruiting kids. Now, I'm seeing a lot 1254 01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:38,960 Speaker 20: of great schools, public schools, But the problem is our 1255 01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:42,520 Speaker 20: inner city kids are getting they're getting cheated because. 1256 01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:44,559 Speaker 7: We don't have a lot of those inner. 1257 01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:47,320 Speaker 20: City schools that are getting the job done in terms 1258 01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:51,240 Speaker 20: of teaching these kids. They come out and they're illiterate. 1259 01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:53,160 Speaker 20: I mean, they can't read and write and they can't 1260 01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:55,439 Speaker 20: do anything, but they just pass them on through. So 1261 01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:57,640 Speaker 20: I'm a true believer. 1262 01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:02,080 Speaker 7: Of the choose the school that you want to go to. 1263 01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:06,120 Speaker 20: We have that in the state of Alabama to where 1264 01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:09,559 Speaker 20: you can get a stipend and if you're not getting 1265 01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:11,639 Speaker 20: the education that you want or their parents don't think 1266 01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:14,000 Speaker 20: you are, you can go to another school and the 1267 01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:15,960 Speaker 20: government will give you a check to pay. 1268 01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:18,240 Speaker 7: Into that school at private school. So a lot of. 1269 01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:20,960 Speaker 20: People say we need public schools. If you look at 1270 01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:25,000 Speaker 20: what's happened Scott, we have twice as many administrators now 1271 01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:26,920 Speaker 20: then we had when you and I was in school, 1272 01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:29,439 Speaker 20: and we don't have near as many teachers because they're 1273 01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:31,920 Speaker 20: getting those easier jobs to where you don't have to 1274 01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:34,040 Speaker 20: go in that classroom for four or five hours a 1275 01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:36,599 Speaker 20: day to teach. They're taking the easy way out. It's 1276 01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:39,160 Speaker 20: time that we cut out administrators, put more teachers in 1277 01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:42,360 Speaker 20: the classroom and teach these kids to read and write. 1278 01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:45,160 Speaker 20: If we don't, then we're going to continue to drop 1279 01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:47,080 Speaker 20: in this contry. We're twenty seventh in the world right 1280 01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:49,080 Speaker 20: now in education, we should be number. 1281 01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:49,880 Speaker 7: One, no doubt. 1282 01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:54,960 Speaker 2: Coach, you are a legendary football coach, and then you 1283 01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:57,840 Speaker 2: got into public service. I sense a little frustration in 1284 01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:01,040 Speaker 2: your voice with what you've learned in polic Do you 1285 01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:04,920 Speaker 2: think being governor is going to assuage that frustration. 1286 01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:06,360 Speaker 3: It sounds like being senator for. 1287 01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:09,760 Speaker 2: You has been a bit, a bit of a frustrating experience. 1288 01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:13,160 Speaker 20: Well, it's a learning process, and there's some good things 1289 01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,400 Speaker 20: that happened up here in the federal government. The problem 1290 01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:17,880 Speaker 20: it is so hard to get anything done. And for 1291 01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:20,559 Speaker 20: four years, Scott I set back and listened to guys 1292 01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:23,720 Speaker 20: like Secon day More workers of the Homeland Security said, oh, 1293 01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:26,400 Speaker 20: our borders closed, but we were letting five thousand people 1294 01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:30,400 Speaker 20: a day to come in with treat and nobody's worried 1295 01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:30,720 Speaker 20: about it. 1296 01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:31,120 Speaker 7: Up here. 1297 01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:35,599 Speaker 20: Nobody's worried. But we are absolutely spending money that are 1298 01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:38,920 Speaker 20: great great great grandkids are going to have to pay 1299 01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:43,160 Speaker 20: for and our dollars getting less valued. Thank god President 1300 01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:45,920 Speaker 20: Trump got any closed the border. But we had so 1301 01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:48,639 Speaker 20: many negative things happened my first four years here. I'm 1302 01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:51,479 Speaker 20: looking around, going, how do we how are we even 1303 01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:53,880 Speaker 20: still up here? Why are the American people even paying 1304 01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:56,920 Speaker 20: taxes to pay for this nonsense that we're doing here? 1305 01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:59,799 Speaker 20: I mean, we we serve no purpose. 1306 01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:04,360 Speaker 2: That's Coach Tommy Turberville, Senator soon to be governor of Alabama, 1307 01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:07,360 Speaker 2: coach forgovernor dot com. Thanks for joining us today, See 1308 01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:08,960 Speaker 2: you tomorrow on Scott Jenny Show