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Speaker 2: All right, so, without further ado, let's go ahead and
Speaker 2: throw to my interview, exclusive interview with Andy Biggs, the
Speaker 2: next governor of the Great State of Arizona. Without further ado,
Speaker 2: please help, Welcome to the stage, Congressman Andy Biggs.
Speaker 3: I can't sure.
Speaker 2: He's so okay. I have to start our time together, Congressman,
Speaker 2: future governor with an anecdote. So we both were at
Speaker 2: the State of the Union and the next day we
Speaker 2: both happen to get on the same flight back to Arizona,
Speaker 2: and he we you know, people don't know this about
Speaker 2: your congressman maybe, but he was flying in coach just
Speaker 2: like I was, although he had an aisle seat and
Speaker 2: I was stuck in a middle seat, and we kept
Speaker 2: talking across the aisle the whole time. And you know,
Speaker 2: you see Andy on on Fox News, and he's very serious,
Speaker 2: and he's you know, he's kind of a he's a
Speaker 2: policy wonk. He understands the ins and out outs of
Speaker 2: government really well. And you don't always get to see
Speaker 2: how warm and gregarious is and all these people kept
Speaker 2: standing walking by and wanted to shake his hand, and
Speaker 2: he would just always had time for them, and I
Speaker 2: I clocked it because it's very very telling about the
Speaker 2: character of a man, how he is when when the
Speaker 2: cameras are not on them. And so it's a true honor.
Speaker 2: You are a friend, you are a friend of the organization,
Speaker 2: you were a friend of Charlie's and we are behind
Speaker 2: you obviously one hundred percent. In this state. He's gonna
Speaker 2: be the next governor of the state of Arizona if
Speaker 2: we have something to do about it.
Speaker 4: Hey, thanks Andrew, thank you very much.
Speaker 2: By the way, we talked so much. This is the
Speaker 2: last thing I'll say that. The gal sitting in between
Speaker 2: us was like, do you want me to move? And
Speaker 2: I was like, no, please, don't give up your asle
Speaker 2: seat for this middle seat. But Andy, tell tell the
Speaker 2: audience about who you are. Who is Andy Biggs? Because
Speaker 2: we know you in Congress, we know you on Fox News.
Speaker 2: But tell us you know how'd you end up here?
Speaker 4: That's a that's a long story, A series of misdecisions
Speaker 4: probably took me to Congress. But I was born and
Speaker 4: raised here, and I grew up in a politically active family.
Speaker 4: Andrew and they were active at the grassroots level, like
Speaker 4: just like everybody in this conference is today, and so
Speaker 4: they would My mom would write letters to the editor,
Speaker 4: right and and we lived in Tucson, so tu sons
Speaker 4: and that wasn't really conservative. It's still not, and it's
Speaker 4: even worse today. But anyway, so she would draw fire.
Speaker 4: And back in those days, when you wrote a letter
Speaker 4: to the editor, your home address was included. If you
Speaker 4: remember this, I don't know if you remember. And I
Speaker 4: had a car. It was an old Smobile ninety eight
Speaker 4: nineteen sixty one. It was bigger than this room that
Speaker 4: we're in. It wouldn't have fit in the driveway, and
Speaker 4: I would park it on the side. And I knew
Speaker 4: my mom had been on the radio, TV or the
Speaker 4: newspaper because people would come and try to throw eggs
Speaker 4: at our house over the car, but they couldn't make it.
Speaker 4: So my car was egged, spray painted with swear words.
Speaker 4: They stole my battery, we get the police officer would
Speaker 4: come at a door to a in them. Anyway, So
Speaker 4: I said, I will never ever be involved in politics.
Speaker 4: It's just too ugly. And then I met my wife
Speaker 4: to be at a political event on a blind date,
Speaker 4: and we fell in love and got married just a
Speaker 4: few months after that, and Andrew, the rest is kind of
Speaker 4: political history.
Speaker 2: So your wife was a part of a political family. Yes,
Speaker 2: you also, your your mom and your dad were activists
Speaker 2: basically local on the local levels. It was in your DNA.
Speaker 2: So even though you said you weren't going to do it,
Speaker 2: you you were just drawn to it like a moth
Speaker 2: to the flame worship.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, pretty much. And I've had the same
Speaker 4: reaction as a moth to the flame. Has been largely
Speaker 4: but no. A call. One day we moved into Gilbert,
Speaker 4: Arizona at the time is about nine thousand people, and buddy,
Speaker 4: somebody called me. A new neighbor calls me and says, hey, Andy,
Speaker 4: are you you know so and so your mom? And
Speaker 4: I said yes, it's so and so your mother in law.
Speaker 4: And I said yes, And he said, well, there's a
Speaker 4: political meeting. He says, you're probably pretty interested in politics.
Speaker 4: I said no, no, no, I'm not. And he said,
Speaker 4: we're gonna we're having a political meeting tonight. Will you come?
Speaker 4: And so we went and it was oh my gosh.
Speaker 4: Andrew was like, it's like half the room didn't like this.
Speaker 4: Half of the room's kind of kind of like our
Speaker 4: party today. This this half didn't like this half, and
Speaker 4: it was better than reality TV. I mean, that's what
Speaker 4: it was. And we just stood there and media was there.
Speaker 4: He was a legislative district meeting, and we left it
Speaker 4: and we had a good time, and he called me
Speaker 4: the next month, you want to go again, okay, And
Speaker 4: then that's how we got sucked into it, right, and
Speaker 4: before too long, he's the he's the president of our
Speaker 4: chairman of the of the local district, and I'm the secretary.
Speaker 4: And that's that's just how it is. We just were.
Speaker 4: You know, if you show up, people ask you to
Speaker 4: do something, and if you're if you do it, you're
Speaker 4: reliable and they will trust you to do more. And
Speaker 4: that's really kind of what happened.
Speaker 2: That's a great lesson for folks that want to get
Speaker 2: involved in politics. Just show up, get involved at the
Speaker 2: local level. That was Charlie's admonition to young people that
Speaker 2: wanted to get involved in politics all the time. Get
Speaker 2: involved with the campaign, by the way, get involved with
Speaker 2: Biggs for governor.
Speaker 4: Big Bigs forgovernor. Dot com.
Speaker 2: Yeah absolutely. So you were a lawyer though as well, Yes, so,
Speaker 2: how long before you were practicing attorney before you ended
Speaker 2: up joining the state ledge.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so Andrew, Andrew knows all my story almost But
Speaker 4: I was practicing law and I chose to tire pretty early.
Speaker 4: But I started doing some international work on behalf of
Speaker 4: a pro life profamily in goos at multilaterals, and but
Speaker 4: I was still active. And there was a redistricting. I mean,
Speaker 4: that's what happened. That decential census came out and now
Speaker 4: we didn't have a state representative here and I was
Speaker 4: asked to run, and we prayed about it and felt
Speaker 4: like I should, and I ran in two thousand and
Speaker 4: two and one and took my first office in the
Speaker 4: state legislature in two thousand and three. Wow.
Speaker 2: So you know, I have a theory. It's going to
Speaker 2: sound like a negative towards you, Andy, but it's actually
Speaker 2: a positive. So I have a theory that a lot
Speaker 2: of congressmen do not make great governors. And the reason
Speaker 2: is because it's different being a CEO of a state
Speaker 2: than it is being part of a deliberative body. But
Speaker 2: one of the highlights of your career that I think
Speaker 2: is worth highlighting is the fact that you were actually
Speaker 2: involved deeply and intimately at the state level. So tell
Speaker 2: us about your history of the state ledge. So if
Speaker 2: you want a governor, you want a governor that knows
Speaker 2: how to pull the levers of power, knows how to
Speaker 2: work within the state system, knows how to get bills passed,
Speaker 2: understands the utilities, understands the minutia of local government. You
Speaker 2: ended up becoming the president of the Senate here in
Speaker 2: the state of Arizona before going to DC. Tell us
Speaker 2: about your time there, what you learned, what you're going
Speaker 2: to glean from that experience.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think that is really going to
Speaker 4: be helpful because because of my position as Senate President,
Speaker 4: I also was essentially writing the state budget, so I
Speaker 4: know the lines, I know, I know what we're going
Speaker 4: to spend, and I know kind of where this is going.
Speaker 4: But I worked with two different Republican governors and so
Speaker 4: we had that interaction. But without getting into the details
Speaker 4: too much, what I can just tell you is there's
Speaker 4: a reason so many current former legislators endorse me because
Speaker 4: I'm pretty open and communicate, let people come into my office.
Speaker 4: And Katie Hobbs was, for peach sakes, current governor, was
Speaker 4: the minority leader when I was there for a while,
Speaker 4: and she'd come into my office every week and we
Speaker 4: would talk about this stuff. But the bottom line is,
Speaker 4: if you know the process and you know the policy,
Speaker 4: and you were willing to collaborate, you can get so
Speaker 4: much done as the governor. And that's really what we're
Speaker 4: gonna do. Yeah, amen to that.
Speaker 2: So let's talk about Arizona. Arizona is a remarkable state.
Speaker 2: It is. You know, Charlie for those of you knew
Speaker 2: who know the story, was actually born in Illinois, and
Speaker 2: he obviously married Erica, who's a Arizonan. And every time
Speaker 2: we would fly back into Arizona, though this is the
Speaker 2: state that he chose to make his home, he would
Speaker 2: just I have so many memories of this.
Speaker 3: He was just say, oh, look at that, how beautiful
Speaker 3: it is.
Speaker 2: And I was like, Charlie, it's very dry, it's kind
Speaker 2: of brown.
Speaker 5: And He's like, oh, it's great.
Speaker 2: It's like ninety five percent of the days and sun.
Speaker 2: It's wonderful.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: He just loved this state and the spirit of the people.
Speaker 2: What is the spirit of Arizona that you know that
Speaker 2: you know, this a purple state. Right, We've got Gago,
Speaker 2: We've got Mark Kelly, we've got Hobbs a governor, what
Speaker 2: is this real spirit of Arizona.
Speaker 4: Well, so that the purpleness is really an aberration in
Speaker 4: my mind, because what this this state really was a
Speaker 4: you know, historically it was for rugged individuals who would
Speaker 4: come out and make their way. They weren't looking for
Speaker 4: government to kind of take care of them. But I
Speaker 4: mean the spirit of the state still remains strong that way.
Speaker 4: I mean, you look at it, we're still a center
Speaker 4: right state. And when you start looking at it like
Speaker 4: our water situation, no other state in the country did
Speaker 4: what Arizona did. We took a desert state when you
Speaker 4: had forty five fifty thousand people living in this current
Speaker 4: metro area, that's five and a half million people, and
Speaker 4: they built a series of dams to bring water to it.
Speaker 4: I mean that we're still using today. That's what we are. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: series of tweets where you mentioned that Arizona has fallen
Speaker 2: into the bottom five as far as wage growth, the
Speaker 2: bottom five of new job growth, we've got a housing issue.
Speaker 5: What are the top three.
Speaker 2: Four whatever issues that you see plaguing the state of Arizona.
Speaker 4: Well, we had, first of all, we went we've lost
Speaker 4: the American dream here in the state. Perhaps across the
Speaker 4: country in many ways. So the first issue for me
Speaker 4: is to restore that, and that means that you have
Speaker 4: to facilitate and create an atmosphere where young people or
Speaker 4: new families and buy a single family home and be
Speaker 4: able to afford to buy that home. Now, why is
Speaker 4: that Because when people buy this this home for the
Speaker 4: first time, they form families, right, and when you form families,
Speaker 4: that's when you keep your culture, your society, your your
Speaker 4: your history. Without that, we're going to have a problem.
Speaker 4: So for us to facilitate that, that means we have
Speaker 4: to fix a water situation that's tough. We have to
Speaker 4: fix fix our power grid situation, which is tough. By
Speaker 4: the way, these are these are not unique to Arizona.
Speaker 4: These are system wide. But we need to fix those things.
Speaker 4: At the same time, we still have across our southern
Speaker 4: border the most porous human trafficking sector in the in
Speaker 4: the country. So you want to make sure that people
Speaker 4: can afford to buy homes in a safe neighborhood, but
Speaker 4: you also want them to be safe so where they
Speaker 4: can go take the feel comfortable taking their family out
Speaker 4: and you're not gonna be worried about fentanyl coming into
Speaker 4: your your high schools, so so that for us, it's
Speaker 4: for me, it's you start working on the American dream
Speaker 4: with a housing, but you also start working on the
Speaker 4: American dream to make sure that you've you're shutting down
Speaker 4: areas of the border that are still kind of poorous
Speaker 4: because of unique circumstances in Arizona's Arizona's terrain airs, some
Speaker 4: governmental entities that we have here. Once you start doing
Speaker 4: those two things, then you start remembering. We want every
Speaker 4: parent to be able to be influential in the in
Speaker 4: the educational experience of their child. No more boys and
Speaker 4: girls sports or girls' locker rooms, no more grooming behind parents' backs.
Speaker 4: We're gonna work on that. But we're gonna make sure
Speaker 4: that Arizona's educational choice, which is the best in the country,
Speaker 4: is available for every student. So we're not just teaching
Speaker 4: them to read and write and do math at grade level.
Speaker 4: We want them to be able to to else so
Speaker 4: understand our history, come out as great citizens and be
Speaker 4: able to get good jobs.
Speaker 2: We call it the three MS, marriage, mortgage, and mating.
Speaker 2: They're called conservatizing life events. And I remember actually coming
Speaker 2: up with the three MS with Charlie I saw in
Speaker 2: a Brookings Institute study where they realized, oh, shoot, if
Speaker 2: young people get married and they get a mortgage and
Speaker 2: they start having kids, they're going to turn into Republicans,
Speaker 2: and we got to stop this. So but ironically, that
Speaker 2: is the American dream. So you talk about housing, how
Speaker 2: do you make housing more affordable?
Speaker 4: So we have a problem in the West as you,
Speaker 4: as many people know, for instance, of property ownership in Arizona,
Speaker 4: only eighteen percent of the fifth largest state in the
Speaker 4: country is in private hands. The rest of it is
Speaker 4: controlled by government entity state or federal, And that means that,
Speaker 4: for instance, in the Phoenix metro area, you have whole
Speaker 4: swaths of land which would be normally suitable to build
Speaker 4: single family home on. What you're getting instead is a
Speaker 4: dormant asset because it's sitting there being owned by the
Speaker 4: federal or state government. So you have to open that up.
Speaker 4: And twenty five percent of development in Arizona is usually
Speaker 4: the land cost. But the other thing is you reduce cost.
Speaker 4: About thirty percent of it is permitting you seriously, yeah,
Speaker 4: thirty percent, yeah, in Arizona. So you have to make
Speaker 4: sure you take care of the regulatory environment that's in place.
Speaker 4: And when you take care of those two things right there,
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, the cost of say a first
Speaker 4: time home becomes rational and affordable. And that's that's really
Speaker 4: what you want to do.
Speaker 2: What about business investment, job growth, wage growth? How do
Speaker 2: you bring that back to the state.
Speaker 4: Well, what we've done is is we're competing now with
Speaker 4: states that have reduced their income tax either to zero
Speaker 4: or even below ours. Ours is two and a half
Speaker 4: percent flat. So you have to give a better tax structure,
Speaker 4: and you have to reduce the regulatory environment. So it's
Speaker 4: not just housing that's taking four years to get from
Speaker 4: platte to dirt. It's taking that long on all kinds
Speaker 4: of businesses. And you have to facilitate that. And where
Speaker 4: we do facilitate it, we see jobs come in. So
Speaker 4: we recently did one for a group called Hadrian out
Speaker 4: of La County, and they came in and they're hiring
Speaker 4: three hundred and fifty Arizonas to work in that high
Speaker 4: tech manufacturing plant. Those are the two basic things there.
Speaker 4: And by the way, it isn't about giving subsidies, and
Speaker 4: it isn't about giving tax credits. It's about reducing that
Speaker 4: load government interference load on the entire market and then
Speaker 4: you have a better marketplace for everybody.
Speaker 2: So there's a very boring election happening that genuinely, but
Speaker 2: all of a sudden it's garnered national attention in recent weeks.
Speaker 2: And that is something called SRP, right, the Salt River Project,
Speaker 2: and it's the largest utility in the country, I believe,
Speaker 2: or the large private utility in the country.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it is a cooperative. It's a public yeah,
Speaker 4: public private. It's kind of a quasi government.
Speaker 2: You say quasi. I'm a quasi.
Speaker 4: Guy, quasi motive and I'm just saying.
Speaker 2: Hands raised for for quasi? Do you say quasi? I
Speaker 2: got we got one? Am I alone in the hands
Speaker 2: up for quasi?
Speaker 4: So ah. So, so everybody who says quasi, how many
Speaker 4: of you are from north of Arizona or from outside
Speaker 4: of Arizona. No, I think it's wait, yeah, everybody see
Speaker 4: there you go from everywhere?
Speaker 3: He founded like a loop.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is this is a local issue. Apparently. Its
Speaker 4: kind of like this is how we know if you're
Speaker 4: a spy from another state, A You're going to come
Speaker 4: in and say, quasi is thing?
Speaker 2: So, so I do want to talk about this. Actually
Speaker 2: that's it's I was thinking about bringing up before, but
Speaker 2: they hold on, you're getting to be distracted, s RP.
Speaker 2: All right, hold on, this is so we're getting involved
Speaker 2: in this election or this you know, I think it's
Speaker 2: April fifth turning point. Action has gotten involved in it,
Speaker 2: and all this national media attention is coming into it
Speaker 2: because there's the California Green Agenda, the Green New Deal,
Speaker 2: Green New Scam agenda is trying to infiltrate into the
Speaker 2: state of Arizona. Explain why it's it's again, this is wonky,
Speaker 2: but it's important. It's the price of energy, the price
Speaker 2: of water, how we're approaching these things. How important is
Speaker 2: that SRP election to what you plan to do as governor.
Speaker 4: It's it's absolutely, it's it's like at the at the top.
Speaker 4: So we gotta we got to take care of this.
Speaker 4: Here's why. Because SRP is a power and water company.
Speaker 4: So when I talked about the the the lakes that
Speaker 4: were built and the basically the rivers that were tamed,
Speaker 4: that was SRP doing that over one hundred years ago,
Speaker 4: over one hundred years ago. And we still they still
Speaker 4: move a lot of water, they still move a lot
Speaker 4: of power. And what we're seeing is at the acc
Speaker 4: these groups that are coming in, they want to rely
Speaker 4: on the Green New Deal stuff and they want to
Speaker 4: increase the amount of solar and wind, which is less reliable,
Speaker 4: more expensive, ugly, and I mean the wind turbines. Actually
Speaker 4: they're in northern northeast Arizona. There are private groups that
Speaker 4: are trying to come in and put up to eight
Speaker 4: thousand wind turbines up in the eight eight thousand and
Speaker 4: And what that does is those are pollutants when they
Speaker 4: when they run the course, because they don't live forever.
Speaker 4: When they run the course, they actually pollute the land
Speaker 4: underneath them. So if you want to get power stability
Speaker 4: and make sure that you move to a cheaper form
Speaker 4: of power, you have to acknowledge that clean coal. Arizona's
Speaker 4: got some clean coal. We actually have that that resource.
Speaker 4: We also have some of those facilities China is doing.
Speaker 4: I heard this morning one hundred per week. That seems
Speaker 4: astounding of coal plants. So you have the coal, then
Speaker 4: you have natural gas refining that that's clean, it's cheap,
Speaker 4: it's something that we can get and move very quickly
Speaker 4: and sufficient. And the third thing is the movement to nuclear.
Speaker 4: A lot of people don't realize this, but the until
Speaker 4: Georgia recently opened their nuclear plant, the Palaverti Nuclear Plant
Speaker 4: west of town here, was the largest nuclear facility in
Speaker 4: the United States. And now we're moving to SMRs, which
Speaker 4: this is this is the wonkiness you don't want me
Speaker 4: to get to. I'm sorry, sry.
Speaker 2: We'll get through this very soon, I promise important.
Speaker 4: But to move it to the nuclear small modular reactors.
Speaker 4: President Trump is trying to get nine of those placed
Speaker 4: in different facilities military installations, so that they're up and
Speaker 4: running by the end of twenty twenty seven. I don't
Speaker 4: know if that's doable, but what happens, we're trying to
Speaker 4: get one at Luke, some of us in the delegation.
Speaker 4: If we can get something there and you start making
Speaker 4: that scalable, all of a sudden, it changes the entire
Speaker 4: dynamics for where we're going. Because where we're going, you're
Speaker 4: seeing a tremendous increase in the demand for power and water.
Speaker 4: And by the way, we went from about nineteen seventies
Speaker 4: having roughly maybe a million and a half to two
Speaker 4: million people, maybe a little bit more than that, from
Speaker 4: the early seventies to today, where we are seven and a
Speaker 4: half million people in this state and guess what, we
Speaker 4: use the same amount of water because of the way
Speaker 4: we manage our water resources. And you don't want to
Speaker 4: turn that over to the Green New Deal folks because
Speaker 4: they don't like people. They really, they just don't like people.
Speaker 4: And I'm not kidding when I say that. And we
Speaker 4: like people, and we like growth, and we like the
Speaker 4: economic opportunities that freedom allows. They want to crush freedom
Speaker 4: with their authoritarian, basically policies that they believe will drive
Speaker 4: people out of Arizona and who knows where.
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Speaker 2: So what is your message to them as you're trying
Speaker 2: to win their votes in the state, the newcomers to
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Speaker 4: Well, I think regardless of where you're coming from and
Speaker 4: what your political vision is, you want to be able
Speaker 4: to afford to live. You want to be able to
Speaker 4: afford to have good housing, you want to be able
Speaker 4: to buy food, and you want to be able to
Speaker 4: get around, and there's no place better than that than Arizona.
Speaker 4: We provide all that might. But what will happen is
Speaker 4: when you get me as the governor with a great legislature,
Speaker 4: it will become easier for you and all of those things.
Speaker 4: But it isn't just that they want the same things
Speaker 4: we want. They may not know why they want them,
Speaker 4: and they may and think they may not logically see
Speaker 4: the consistency with our policies and getting what they want.
Speaker 4: But the reality is they they want to make sure
Speaker 4: they're free too. Most of them, the people that are
Speaker 4: going to vote in this election, they want to be
Speaker 4: free too.
Speaker 2: So I how many of you guys have heard you know,
Speaker 2: you can't have too conservative of a of a candidate
Speaker 2: on the ballot. They can't win. Have you guys heard
Speaker 2: something along that lines? Yeah, yeah, you've heard.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've heard that.
Speaker 2: So I heard that, so Andy, Congressman, Yeah, what what
Speaker 2: is your message? What do you say to that? When
Speaker 2: people say Congressman Biggs is he's too much of a conservative,
Speaker 2: he's too rock ribbed. What's your what's your answer? To that.
Speaker 4: Well, I always tell him that, you know, I'm one
Speaker 4: of the Republicans that votes against his party, uh number
Speaker 4: three for voting against my party. So I really am independent. Okay,
Speaker 4: other way this is true. We're looking at that. It's true.
Speaker 4: But but beyond that, I remind them that if if
Speaker 4: if I'm speaking to an independent, I just remind him.
Speaker 4: I asked them what they what it is that they're
Speaker 4: looking for in the state that they live in. What
Speaker 4: is it you really want? And sooner or later we're
Speaker 4: gonna gree we want good education for our kids, we
Speaker 4: want the opportunities, we want our kids to be safe.
Speaker 4: We want our kids we want to be able to
Speaker 4: have medical freedom, medical choice. Oddly enough, that's the MAHA movement.
Speaker 4: So when we start finding these points of confluence where
Speaker 4: we agree, man, they come along. They're going to come along.
Speaker 4: And then I always remind my Republican doubters. I say, hey,
Speaker 4: guess what you know. Donald Trump wasn't supposed to win
Speaker 4: this in twenty twenty four, but he won this state
Speaker 4: because we got out the vote. With the help of
Speaker 4: TP Action, Citizens Alliance and others. We got the vote
Speaker 4: out and we ended up winning and Donald Trump won
Speaker 4: by the biggest margin in the country for a battleground state.
Speaker 2: And I would say that if you want to tank
Speaker 2: the enthusiasm of the base, nominate a squish, Nominate somebody
Speaker 2: that doesn't stand for anything. So midterms are a turnout exercise.
Speaker 2: It's all about how many of your base voters you
Speaker 2: can turnout, and you need enthusiasm. You need to be
Speaker 2: offering real solutions to the problems. So I would just
Speaker 2: that's my pushback.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you agree, well, well you're absolutely right that
Speaker 4: I give that to the republic, to the Republicans, to
Speaker 4: the independence. They want to know where where do you
Speaker 4: agree and can you deliver on that? So they want
Speaker 4: things that's where we get to. They want safety for
Speaker 4: their kids, they want education for their kids, they want
Speaker 4: they want to make sure that they can get a
Speaker 4: stable job making a decent wage. They want to be
Speaker 4: able to get safe housing, you know. And and in
Speaker 4: the end, people people live where the lifestyle is the
Speaker 4: best for them, and they chose to be here, and
Speaker 4: they're gonna like it here under a Biggs administration.
Speaker 2: Biggs is Andy Biggs for governor. You are the best, genuinely,
Speaker 2: can we do?
Speaker 4: Can we do?
Speaker 2: Some Q and A.
Speaker 4: Do we have time?
Speaker 2: Yeah? If you guys have questions for congressmen eggs, please
Speaker 2: just want to do it? Just raise their hand. Yeah,
Speaker 2: raise your.
Speaker 4: Hand now, Andrew, Here's the important part. I always say,
Speaker 4: an you can ask me any question you'd like, and
Speaker 4: then I'll decide if I'm going to answer it. So
Speaker 4: feel I want you to Yeah, feel free.
Speaker 2: I got a couple here. It's hard to see you
Speaker 2: guys with the lights on this.
Speaker 4: We know that Arizona has had some voter fraud. Are
Speaker 4: you concerned about that? Yeah? The question is am I
Speaker 4: concerned about voter fraud in Arizona? Yes and no, And
Speaker 4: I'll tell you. I'll tell you why it's yes and no.
Speaker 4: First of all, I am concerned about it, but I
Speaker 4: know that like in Maricopa County, which has had problems,
Speaker 4: both the county Board and the county recorder newly elected,
Speaker 4: they're they're a little bit of chafing at each other,
Speaker 4: but they're trying to put it in place. I know
Speaker 4: them all. They're trying to give us the best election
Speaker 4: they possibly can. That's number one. Number two is I
Speaker 4: remember what happened in twenty twenty four with President Trump
Speaker 4: and we expanded the majority of Republicans in both the
Speaker 4: House and Senate, and in some respects, I'm relying on
Speaker 4: making it too big to rig again, getting out that base,
Speaker 4: getting out that vote. And when we do that, because
Speaker 4: it is a turnout election, I think we win, not
Speaker 4: only closely, we win going away because we're going to
Speaker 4: turn out our voters.
Speaker 2: Yeahs, do you have any plans for restoring academic integrity
Speaker 2: to Arizona?
Speaker 4: Oh? Do I have any places for a string academic integrity.
Speaker 4: So here's the way to think of it. We are
Speaker 4: perpetually at the bottom of attainment, right we have, we struggled,
Speaker 4: and so I'm going to just offer some things that
Speaker 4: I think work. They worked in Louisiana, they work in Mississippi,
Speaker 4: which has always been bottom five in attainment. Now in achievement,
Speaker 4: they're in the top five. And what they did is
Speaker 4: they got rid of common Core. When Arizona said we
Speaker 4: were going to get rid of common Core, we just
Speaker 4: renamed it. That's what we did. And that's and by
Speaker 4: the way, you do need that institutional history, and I
Speaker 4: do have that institutional memory. So we need to eliminate
Speaker 4: common Core, and then we need to do what has
Speaker 4: worked in Louisiana, Mississippi and wherever it's been tried. And
Speaker 4: let's go back to phonics, reading, science based mathematics. And
Speaker 4: when you do those things, the kids typically respond their
Speaker 4: reading by grade level. And then you make sure you
Speaker 4: have a good history and there reminding kids of what
Speaker 4: it's like to live in a free country and how
Speaker 4: we got to be the greatest nation in the history
Speaker 4: of the world. Then we will be up there in
Speaker 4: that top five, like Louisiana and Mississippi because they went
Speaker 4: from We were always grateful because it was you know,
Speaker 4: I can't remember who it was always number one, but
Speaker 4: the other forty seven states were tied at forty ninth,
Speaker 4: and then Mississippi and louisan and down at fifty. We
Speaker 4: were grateful for those two. But now they've shown us
Speaker 4: the way to do it, and that is the way
Speaker 4: to do it.
Speaker 2: Would you keep I think the Mississippi miracle by the
Speaker 2: way they it's been widely reported they'll keep a lot
Speaker 2: of the students back if they're not making grade level
Speaker 2: and reading. Is that something you would do here?
Speaker 4: Yeah, social promotion can't. You don't want to stigmatize the child,
Speaker 4: but you believe me, you are stigmatizing the child more
Speaker 4: by granting social promotion and putting them in a position
Speaker 4: where I mean, I just was reading about a graduate
Speaker 4: of an Ivy League college who graduated and could not read.
Speaker 4: So it is important for us to not socially promote
Speaker 4: but instead make sure we have educational attainment so that child.
Speaker 4: That child will have much more self esteem when they
Speaker 4: can read and write and do math at grade level,
Speaker 4: which is where their peers are. That's what's critical. And
Speaker 4: so yeah, and the other thing I would say, if
Speaker 4: you want to you need to understand we have three
Speaker 4: of the top ten rated high schools in the country
Speaker 4: right here in Arizona. We need to keep the educational
Speaker 4: choice going in Arizona. If we protect that, we will
Speaker 4: have great outcomes. We'll have to be the last question,
Speaker 4: thank you.
Speaker 6: You mentioned what Arizonians want, and I want to know
Speaker 6: how you plan on doing those things. The affordable housing,
Speaker 6: the education, the water, the electrical Do you have those
Speaker 6: plans implemented and is there a website where we can
Speaker 6: see how you have drawn out those plans.
Speaker 4: So I do have plans in every one of those areas,
Speaker 4: and I'm not sure we haven't reflected on our website
Speaker 4: in every one of those areas. But I've already talked
Speaker 4: about education here briefly, and I've talked about water. I
Speaker 4: can talk about water for hours, but in particular, you
Speaker 4: need to know that we have to save the system,
Speaker 4: the entire system, and if we failed to do that,
Speaker 4: then Arizona will have a problem. We are being hosed
Speaker 4: right now by the current administration. There's a real problem
Speaker 4: between the upper basin states and the lower basin states.
Speaker 4: And I've been leading the fight in Washington, d C.
Speaker 4: With my colleagues to make sure Arizona gets a better
Speaker 4: shake at that. And so that's that's that. On power,
Speaker 4: I've already talked about that briefly, how the move is
Speaker 4: going to be towards ultimately moving towards SMRs because that
Speaker 4: will give us a broader range of power. I can't
Speaker 4: remember what else she asked other policy areas, But.
Speaker 2: Did he did he get everything that you were asking about?
Speaker 4: Affordable housing. I've already talked about that. Permitting, Yeah, you
Speaker 4: have you have to deal with you have to deal
Speaker 4: with permitting the scarcity of land and which is artificial
Speaker 4: in the state, and deal with that and that without
Speaker 4: getting tu wonkey on Dad. I mean, there are ways
Speaker 4: to actually deal with that that actually benefit K twelve
Speaker 4: education and the economy and lower can help make housing
Speaker 4: more affordable.
Speaker 2: Great Congressman Andy Biggs, the Great Andy Biggs, the next
Speaker 2: governor of the State of Arizona.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Andrews, Thank you everyone. Thanks all right.
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Speaker 5: All right, it's my turn. We uh just had an
Speaker 5: event here in Phoenix, the same one where Andrew was
Speaker 5: interviewing Andy Biggs. We also welcomed Nick Shirley Smolly fraud
Speaker 5: Exploder Extraordinary Learing Center, We the Learing Centerman. We welcome
Speaker 5: him out to Arizona to speak in front of some
Speaker 5: of our supporters, and we had an interview which dived
Speaker 5: into his work. A lot of people really enjoyed it.
Speaker 5: It was a fun conversation. We hope all of you
Speaker 5: enjoy it as well. Hello everybody, alrighty, well, welcome Nick.
Speaker 5: Thank you for coming out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm super happy to be here, all right, I was,
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 5: Saying just before we got in that we already we
Speaker 5: already own a lot. He did force us to abandon
Speaker 5: an initiative we were planning to launch. We can't launch
Speaker 5: Leering Point USA anymore. We had to look for a
Speaker 5: new name for that one. But I think it's all
Speaker 5: worth it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it would be a real shame if the kids
Speaker 3: couldn't lear anymore.
Speaker 5: But yeah, well, well welcome out here. And I think,
Speaker 5: just to start off, I was, I was looking at
Speaker 5: some of your you know, more recent tweets, and obviously
Speaker 5: you're known for your documentary stuff, you're your investigative work,
Speaker 5: but you had a normal post just the other day,
Speaker 5: and I want to read it because I think it
Speaker 5: really speaks to the influence that I know Charlie has
Speaker 5: had on you and a lot of other people. So
Speaker 5: let me bring it up here. And what you said
Speaker 5: was the more time I spend on X and around politics,
Speaker 5: I realize how easy it is for people to complain.
Speaker 5: Very few people actually do the thing. I would much
Speaker 5: rather actively be trying to do something than just complaining
Speaker 5: without bringing a solution. And I know that is very
Speaker 5: much something that Charlie would say all the time. He
Speaker 5: was all about being the change that you seek in
Speaker 5: the world. So I know you're also iconic for being
Speaker 5: one of the final guests on our show before the
Speaker 5: tragedy that happened in Utah. So can you just tell
Speaker 5: us a bit about the impact Charlie had on your
Speaker 5: life an outlook.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had a lot of respect for Charlie because
Speaker 3: of what he's done and every time I'd go to
Speaker 3: like Amfest or even coming here today to see what
Speaker 3: he built, what he has built and the people that
Speaker 3: he's been able to track around him speaks to the
Speaker 3: person he was. And the reason I made that post
Speaker 3: is because I I'm going out doing so much and
Speaker 3: people like Charlie did so much, and it's so easy
Speaker 3: for us to go out and do so much and
Speaker 3: to actually go to the place talk about it put
Speaker 3: our money where our mouth is. And then there's so
Speaker 3: many people who just want to complain and attack the
Speaker 3: people that are actually doing the doing, and so yeah,
Speaker 3: I kind of get sometimes I get kind of fed
Speaker 3: up when I get on the internet and I see
Speaker 3: people always just like complaining and complaining with ever bringing
Speaker 3: any solution, and so right before I tweeted that, I
Speaker 3: had seen that Gavin Newsom was blaming Trump for his
Speaker 3: disaster of a state of California, and I said, how
Speaker 3: are you supposed to blame Trump for this when you're
Speaker 3: the one who's pushed all the billionaires out of your state,
Speaker 3: you let twenty four billion dollars go on accounted for,
Speaker 3: and you're complaining about taxes, But he has the highest
Speaker 3: tax on gas in the United States and so but
Speaker 3: all that's Trump's faults. And so I saying, well, he're
Speaker 3: the governor. Like take ownership, And I think Charlie's a
Speaker 3: perfect example of someone who takes ownership and he sees
Speaker 3: a problem, he would actually go and do something about it.
Speaker 3: I mean, he dedicated his whole entire life to helping
Speaker 3: make America great and making America a better place to live.
Speaker 3: And so me and myself, I want to do the
Speaker 3: same thing, whether it's going and doing these videos and
Speaker 3: showing people and highlighting what's actually happening and bringing a
Speaker 3: solution to some of these problems. People say, well, Nick,
Speaker 3: you're complaining by making that tweet. I'm like, no, I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you guys what's happening. And then I have
Speaker 3: actually post a video every single week to show you
Speaker 3: what's going on. That's why you guys are actually interacting
Speaker 3: with me, because I'm creating these conversations exactly exactly.
Speaker 5: And I think it's very common to run into people
Speaker 5: who say I'd love to help out once I have
Speaker 5: the right job, or once I've finished the right program,
Speaker 5: once I've moved to the right town. But I think
Speaker 5: you've shown exactly what is possible, which is you can
Speaker 5: basically take a smartphone and go to the right spot
Speaker 5: and ask the right questions and get one hundred and
Speaker 5: fifty million views on X So I think that is
Speaker 5: the next natural question. I know there's a lot of people,
Speaker 5: a lot like you who are in their late team
Speaker 5: early twenties. They love to ask that general question, how
Speaker 5: can I do what you do? And so let's let's imagine.
Speaker 5: Let's imagine there's someone out here in Phoenix or in
Speaker 5: a town like Los Angeles and they've seen it seems
Speaker 5: there's a lot of fraud out there. It seems like
Speaker 5: there's a lot of waste, it seems like there's a
Speaker 5: lot of corruption. They have a smartphone. What should they
Speaker 5: do next to take action?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the most important thing is going into
Speaker 3: the location, going to the source. A lot of people
Speaker 3: don't want to go to the source of where they.
Speaker 5: No one wants to go outside.
Speaker 3: Nobody wants to go outside. So if you're angry about
Speaker 3: your governor, you're angry about the leering center in your neighborhood,
Speaker 3: maybe go to the place and do your research and say, okay,
Speaker 3: let's go see if I can talk to the person
Speaker 3: and have those conversations to actually see what's happening.
Speaker 5: I will admit I was when I was driving up here,
Speaker 5: I did pass by a place that was prominently labeled
Speaker 5: as a Phoenix autism center, and it did enter my mind,
Speaker 5: Oh is that one of those? And I don't want
Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't know about that when it
Speaker 5: might be legitimate.
Speaker 3: But people, if they start going around your towns and
Speaker 3: you notice there's like these learning centers or these autism centers,
Speaker 3: you're gonna realize there's no cars in the parking lot,
Speaker 3: and every time you drive by them, there's actually no
Speaker 3: cars there. So this is like a whole fraud system
Speaker 3: that's in every state in the United States. But going
Speaker 3: back to your question about what someone could actually do
Speaker 3: if they want to do something well, I think you
Speaker 3: have to go do the doing, obviously, but you have
Speaker 3: to go to the source, and you have to be
Speaker 3: not afraid to speak on things for what they are.
Speaker 3: I think nowadays a lot of things that actually aren't
Speaker 3: controversial are becoming controversial. Like the topic of fraud. I
Speaker 3: think it should not be controversial that fraud is bad
Speaker 3: no matter who's committing it. The fact that men are
Speaker 3: in girls sports they were born with a whole different thing,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, So how's that even controversial?
Speaker 3: Or the fact that people get mad that we deport
Speaker 3: illegal migrants, the words illegal, and so a lot of
Speaker 3: controversial things are becoming I think a lot of things
Speaker 3: that aren't controversial are becoming controversial. So you have to
Speaker 3: have the courage to speak on the non controversial issues
Speaker 3: that have now become controversial and saying for what they are, so.
Speaker 5: True, so true. And is your step one when you're
Speaker 5: going to a new destination, like when you're landing the
Speaker 5: Minnesota and you want to go to the daycare centers
Speaker 5: or whatever follow up business you're looking at, is it
Speaker 5: as simple as look them up on Google Maps and
Speaker 5: start just going to each one or.
Speaker 3: It's a little bit more complicated than that. You got
Speaker 3: to do your research. So I had known doubt that
Speaker 3: fraud in Minnesota since last June, for instance, I have
Speaker 3: been gathering information on it. And then the man in
Speaker 3: the video, David.
Speaker 5: How did that unfold? Like you just went there and
Speaker 5: people were telling you about it?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I went did a video and last June about the
Speaker 3: rise of Islam and the Smali population side of Minnesota
Speaker 3: because people were telling you about it. And then all
Speaker 3: the Minnesotas were like, finally someone's here to make a
Speaker 3: video about the fraud. I said, what fraud? And people
Speaker 3: one lady called me for two hours. I got stuck
Speaker 3: in a gas station parking lot for two hours talking
Speaker 3: to this lady and you would not hang up, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, but do you know about this one?
Speaker 3: I'm like okay, thank you very much. And then she
Speaker 3: kept going and then the next day she planned a
Speaker 3: bunch of people from an interview and they all backed
Speaker 3: out because they were too scared to speak out out
Speaker 3: against the fraud. And so I was like, okay, well
Speaker 3: there's something here. I had known about it. And then
Speaker 3: the man David, who had been gathering information for years
Speaker 3: because they didn't want to release the money numbers to
Speaker 3: the public, And a lot of these places won't, like,
Speaker 3: for instance, if you try to get the auditing for California,
Speaker 3: Let's just say, if I think I think the only
Speaker 3: one I could find was from twenty twenty three, they
Speaker 3: don't even want to give you from twenty twenty four
Speaker 3: because then people could go and do these investigations. And
Speaker 3: actually right now they're like taking down parts of their
Speaker 3: websites to help you filter and search throughout stuff. In
Speaker 3: Minnesota did that same exact thing when I did the
Speaker 3: video on the fraud, Like they literally crashed down the
Speaker 3: website like at the heat of it to try and
Speaker 3: hide the fraud.
Speaker 5: Have you faced any other backlash from the left. Have
Speaker 5: they threatened you with lawsuits? Have they tried to basically
Speaker 5: tell you you're not a to do this?
Speaker 3: No, because what I'm doing is true, like him going
Speaker 3: after like, what are they gonna sue me for calling
Speaker 3: out the Laarying Center. I mean the Laying Center literally
Speaker 3: packed up their bags and left.
Speaker 5: I have to say I really admires as a guy
Speaker 5: who is a journalist myself, anyone who has like an
Speaker 5: explicit scalp, so to speak, someone they took down, and
Speaker 5: I think you have to your credit you took down
Speaker 5: I think the politician. I think I might personally detest
Speaker 5: more than anyone else. As a guy who's from the Midwest,
Speaker 5: I really don't like Tim Walls. He's the exact type
Speaker 5: of person that I really don't like as a Democrat.
Speaker 5: How does it feel to have that to your credit?
Speaker 5: I think.
Speaker 3: It's a nice trophy to have.
Speaker 5: Do you get emails? Do people from Minnesota contact you
Speaker 5: and say, like, thank you, You've liberated us until the
Speaker 5: next Democrat takes office.
Speaker 3: Yes, people were very very happy that Tim Wallas decide
Speaker 3: to step down. And that also just goes and proves
Speaker 3: that what I was doing was true and correct, because
Speaker 3: why would he step down if there actually wasn't anything
Speaker 3: to be hiding from. And so that was one of
Speaker 3: my favorite things. When he started calling me like a
Speaker 3: he called me like a far right conspiracy theorist. And
Speaker 3: then he called me he called me a delusional, far
Speaker 3: right conspiracy theorist. And then he said I was like,
Speaker 3: is what he say? He said? He said a lot
Speaker 3: of things, but I think he said like racist, like Yeah,
Speaker 3: he call this like all racist or whatnot for going
Speaker 3: after the fraud. And that's the reason why people were
Speaker 3: not able to speak out or too afraid to speak out,
Speaker 3: because your governor would then call you racist or a
Speaker 3: delusional conspiracy theorist for speaking out against the thing that
Speaker 3: made him drop out of reelection.
Speaker 5: Sort of about how it started, how it's going sort
Speaker 5: of thing for him.
Speaker 3: And yeah, it's a bad hill to die on.
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Speaker 5: I imagine you get this question a lot, but I,
Speaker 5: you know, I figure i'll get ahead of the audience. Here,
Speaker 5: what's next? What you've got your sweatshirt that says where
Speaker 5: did my tax dollars go?
Speaker 3: Are?
Speaker 5: Where do you next? Want to see where it's going?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So after the Minnesota video, I got a lot
Speaker 3: of death threats because I went after I literally took
Speaker 3: down like a billion dollar enterprise that was taking place,
Speaker 3: and so people get killed over millions of dollars. Billions
Speaker 3: of dollars is a little bit more risky to even expose.
Speaker 3: So after I did that, I did a video on
Speaker 3: in the Californiaifornia fraud. They're voting fraud and just how
Speaker 3: easy it is for people to vote. So I said, okay,
Speaker 3: maybe I'll get little less death threats, but this week
Speaker 3: I'm coming back out exposing millions and maybe billions of
Speaker 3: dollars in California. So now I'm ready for for.
Speaker 4: To even know what's it.
Speaker 5: Can you tell us what the industry is this time,
Speaker 5: or any any preview you can give us, or is
Speaker 5: that is that a secret?
Speaker 3: Well, if you look at California, they're budgets that keep
Speaker 3: going up for their thing called medical every year it
Speaker 3: goes up by the billions. There's not millions more people
Speaker 3: coming in, so it has something to do with that just.
Speaker 5: Goes up every year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like it literally goes up exponentially every single year,
Speaker 3: like literally billions of dollars.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, if I could have a recommendation. I
Speaker 5: was reading about this myself. So New York and Florida
Speaker 5: have pretty similar populations, and in fact, Florida overtook New
Speaker 5: York thanks to COVID, and Florida's pretty famous for having
Speaker 5: a lot of older people there. They like to retire there.
Speaker 5: New York spends three times as much on medication.
Speaker 3: Like New York City alone, which is crazy. And I think,
Speaker 3: like you're seeing in these democrat cities that charge most
Speaker 3: in taxes, but then their quality of living is actually
Speaker 3: the worst and they have the most amount like they're
Speaker 3: always in debt, like a lot of most states are
Speaker 3: in debt. But these states are always like talking about, oh,
Speaker 3: we need this much more, we need to tax this
Speaker 3: much more. And I think if they were actually taxed less,
Speaker 3: it would incentivize businesses to actually run profitable businesses versus
Speaker 3: relying on the government, which would actually help eliminate a
Speaker 3: lot of their waste in their debt because they're always
Speaker 3: trying to tax more and then yet they just raise
Speaker 3: their budgets, buy the billions. And if they were to
Speaker 3: have more of a competitive way of doing business, they
Speaker 3: wouldn't have to be so reliant upon the government. And
Speaker 3: I'm not like some genius or anything, but I think
Speaker 3: that just makes sense. Like if you're gonna open a business,
Speaker 3: before you do it, figure out how to make it profitable.
Speaker 5: Exactly, exactly, novel idea, or I guess you can just
Speaker 5: get taxpayers to pay for it every single.
Speaker 3: Time, exactly. And that's the problem in all these states
Speaker 3: is they just want to rely upon the government. Let's
Speaker 3: raise taxes, let's raise taxes, but then they're actually never
Speaker 3: making money, Like the only money they're making is from us,
Speaker 3: but not from the person who's buying their product or
Speaker 3: the service they're providing. A lot of these places don't
Speaker 3: actually provide the service.
Speaker 5: How did you originally get started on this? What was
Speaker 5: the What was the first video you made that made
Speaker 5: you think I'm gonna be a guy who makes political video?
Speaker 4: Four?
Speaker 3: Well, the first one. It's funny because Congressman Biggs was here.
Speaker 3: I had been to Amfest in twenty twenty three. I
Speaker 3: saw some things saying, oh, patriots are gonna be uniting
Speaker 3: here at Phoenix, Arizona. I was like, Oh, this will
Speaker 3: be a good time to go interview some like redneck hillbillies,
Speaker 3: Like maybe it's still be interesting, you'll talk to some people.
Speaker 3: And then I got there, I was like, oh, like, oh,
Speaker 3: all these people are so cool, like they're just here
Speaker 3: because they want the best for America.
Speaker 5: And were you more towards the center or even on
Speaker 5: the left then or no?
Speaker 3: I had I liked I was a Trump. I've always
Speaker 3: liked Trump, Like I remember watching The Apprentice with my grandpa.
Speaker 3: I was like, so I always liked but I thought
Speaker 3: that I thought like Amfest, like oh, this is like
Speaker 3: some place where the rednecks are coming and we're all
Speaker 3: gonna join in like have a big old maga party.
Speaker 3: And I was like, Okay, this will be some funny interviews,
Speaker 3: I guess. And then I get there. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 3: these people are all cool. And then I start hearing
Speaker 3: about the border. And my mom had been talking about
Speaker 3: the border for a long time because I was on
Speaker 3: a mission trip for our church. So for two years
Speaker 3: I was pretty much not like I wasn't really paying
Speaker 3: attention much to the news. And then I learned Spanish
Speaker 3: on that mission trip, and then I talked to everyone
Speaker 3: at Amfest and like, oh, the border's really bad. And
Speaker 3: so I went down to the border all by myself,
Speaker 3: and I had no idea what's going on. I set
Speaker 3: up a tripod and I started interviewing people as they're
Speaker 3: coming across.
Speaker 5: Tell your mom about this before you did that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just told them, like, I'm just gonna spend
Speaker 3: one more day in Phoenix. And so I go down there,
Speaker 3: and so this is answering your question about how I
Speaker 3: kind of got into this seeing this corruption. And so
Speaker 3: I get down there and all these migrants are like
Speaker 3: celebrating coming across the border. I'm like in my car,
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my gosh, these people are coming across,
Speaker 3: like I'm like, wait, why are they running? And then
Speaker 3: I get over there and they're like celebrating. They're like
Speaker 3: hopping in cameram like what the heck is going on?
Speaker 3: And since I could speak Spanish to them, they start
Speaker 3: telling me everything. And then I'm like, oh wow, this
Speaker 3: is gonna be like a very interesting video. And then
Speaker 3: ten minutes later, Congressman Biggs drives by with other guy.
Speaker 3: They're like, you guys, know, who are you at?
Speaker 4: What are you doing?
Speaker 3: Don't you know there's a cartel who were on the
Speaker 3: other side. I'm like what, And there was like an
Speaker 3: active cartel war going on the other side. But meanwhile
Speaker 3: these migrants are like celebrated. I'm like giving them like food.
Speaker 3: I'm like, are you guys starving? Like you guys been
Speaker 3: walking for a while. Meanwhile, they had just been like
Speaker 3: trafficked over by the cartel and they're gonna go hop
Speaker 3: in the van to then get put into a detention
Speaker 3: not even I don't even think you call it a
Speaker 3: detention facility here, and then that.
Speaker 5: Same facility probably.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like a welcome facility. And then that same day
Speaker 3: I got one of these phone I'm like, okay, well,
Speaker 3: I want to make sure all right, And the next
Speaker 3: day she's somehow in New York City. I'm like, WHOA,
Speaker 3: what's going on here? And so that kind of just
Speaker 3: started the snowball of me like tracking down the migrant
Speaker 3: crisis and seeing like government corruption, and that was one
Speaker 3: of the first people to ever expose like and have
Speaker 3: a migrant say, yeah, I've been living in this hotel
Speaker 3: in New York City for seven months for completely free,
Speaker 3: and nobody knew that. So I started just to see
Speaker 3: how corrupt things were. And then once you see how
Speaker 3: corupt one side of it is, and it just happens
Speaker 3: to be the most of coruptions happening from the Democrats,
Speaker 3: and so then I just kept going to more and
Speaker 3: more places and it just unraveled itself into what it
Speaker 3: is now.
Speaker 5: Did you know the President was going to shout out
Speaker 5: your your work during the State of the Union?
Speaker 3: That was pretty cool. That was pretty cool. The smally
Speaker 3: frauds as the pirates, Yeah, they definitely had it coming
Speaker 3: for him. It's funny. I actually was like hoping I
Speaker 3: was going to see ilan Omar there, and so I
Speaker 3: got invited. I got invited to the to the State
Speaker 3: of the Union, and they put ilhan Omar's guests right
Speaker 3: behind me, and so I'm like looking them, I'm like
Speaker 3: looking just down at the chamber, and then I hear
Speaker 3: some Somalian language. I look back and it's ilhan Omar,
Speaker 3: and uh, yeah, I really want to say hi to her,
Speaker 3: but she I don't think she wanted to say hi back.
Speaker 3: All right, nobody knows that. Nobody haven't told that story. Well,
Speaker 3: I was like super eager to say hi to or,
Speaker 3: but yeah, I don't think she wanted to say hi.
Speaker 5: Would that be like the White Whale investigation, if you
Speaker 5: could finally get one to the bottom of the whole
Speaker 5: brother thing.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean, I think it's already confirmed that
Speaker 3: she did marry pretty much.
Speaker 5: I think it's pretty it's pretty likely at this point,
Speaker 5: but very likely.
Speaker 3: I think if she got deported, that would be like
Speaker 3: the biggest like w out of all this whole entire thing.
Speaker 3: I really do think a lot of people want to
Speaker 3: see that happen as well, because at the State of
Speaker 3: the Union, for instance, this was the most telling thing
Speaker 3: of the whole entire thing for me because I'm sitting
Speaker 3: on the top of the chamber all the congressmen and
Speaker 3: congresswomen are down there, and there's only really one topic
Speaker 3: where everybody stood up about, and that was about condemning
Speaker 3: political violence when they mentioned Charlie Kirk, and there's only
Speaker 3: only her and I think one other person didn't stand up.
Speaker 3: So even the rest of the Democrats stood up, but
Speaker 3: she wonn't. And so that was very telling about the
Speaker 3: who the true person she is if she's not even
Speaker 3: able to condemn political violence, in fact, she actually incites
Speaker 3: it after her fraud's exposed, she goes and tells everyone
Speaker 3: to go protest, and so she is very not much
Speaker 3: a benefit for this country, Like she's not a benefit
Speaker 3: at all.
Speaker 4: All.
Speaker 5: Right, Well, I saw what a celebrity you are with
Speaker 5: all of the people here, certainly more so than me,
Speaker 5: probably because you have a much better hairline than me,
Speaker 5: I'm sure. But I want to give them a chance
Speaker 5: to ask a few questions to you, of course.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 5: We have here right over here, place to raise your
Speaker 5: hand if you have anything, and we'll get the mic
Speaker 5: to you.
Speaker 8: Yeah, obviously, thanks for being here, Nick. Question, You've got
Speaker 8: a lot of supporters in this room, a lot of
Speaker 8: influential supporters. How can we help you? As you're going
Speaker 8: on this journey.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, So the most important thing is for people
Speaker 3: to watch the videos, share them, and I mean security
Speaker 3: is not cheap, so well's help with that. Yeah, you're
Speaker 3: more than likely to donate. But the most important thing
Speaker 3: is if you see something you your own city, DM
Speaker 3: me or email me so I can go and then
Speaker 3: investigate it. Because there's so much going on inside this country.
Speaker 3: A lot of you talk to you today. We're from California.
Speaker 3: If you guys were from Minnesota, I'm sorry, where do
Speaker 3: we donate? Just come talk to me? But there's actually
Speaker 3: a website called support Nick Shirley dot com as well, and.
Speaker 5: I should shout out you even your your EX account.
Speaker 5: You actually you can subscribe to that EX account.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you can subscribe to me on X.
Speaker 5: Do you have other subscription stuff?
Speaker 3: Ex is the best one because one hundred percent goes
Speaker 3: to you on like other platforms.
Speaker 4: Great. Great.
Speaker 5: Have you ever contemplated having I don't know what the term,
Speaker 5: maybe a farm system? Like have you ever had a
Speaker 5: tip and you know you can't get to that town,
Speaker 5: but you know someone who's closer to it.
Speaker 3: Yes, So right now I'm actually developing a website called
Speaker 3: Antifraud Club dot com and that's where you see the
Speaker 3: shirt right here. The back of it says Anti Fraud
Speaker 3: Taxpayer Club. And so I'm actually trying to make it
Speaker 3: available so people can go inside of their own cities,
Speaker 3: because what I did in California is the HHS actually
Speaker 3: open up their databases to the public. And so I'm
Speaker 3: actually trying to figure out a way to come up
Speaker 3: with like a decentralized version of doge and then help
Speaker 3: other people go out and find the fraud inside their places,
Speaker 3: and then they can then platform on my site and
Speaker 3: it's all gonna be like completely free for people to use.
Speaker 3: And then I'm going to teach people essentially how to
Speaker 3: go in and do it, and so that that would
Speaker 3: be cool. Like the site's going to be free, but
Speaker 3: I think to learn from me not might charge like
Speaker 3: a five dollars fee or something, but uh, just so
Speaker 3: I can keep the site up.
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Speaker 8: Hi.
Speaker 7: Nick. Hello, So I'm a big fan and I do
Speaker 7: speak Hillbilly because I'm from Georgia.
Speaker 2: There are a couple of us.
Speaker 4: Here from Georgia.
Speaker 7: But we would love for you to come in and
Speaker 7: expose Fulton County.
Speaker 5: I've heard a lot about Fulton County, Charlie episodes about that.
Speaker 7: So that is a Jerrymander big section of Atlanta, Okay,
Speaker 7: and you probably heard the Buckheb which is a wealthy section,
Speaker 7: has been trying to separate book calls. They don't get support,
Speaker 7: but they want Buckhead's money for the city. But they're
Speaker 7: just layers and layers and layers of corruption and fraud
Speaker 7: with it, especially the voter fraud. They have been picking
Speaker 7: up homeless people taking them into vote. There have been
Speaker 7: people there's a guy that's actually been on Instagram, Hillary,
Speaker 7: do you know his name? Okay, but he has been
Speaker 7: going in and he has found that the people that
Speaker 7: voted were registered at cemeteries, the addresses at vacant lots.
Speaker 7: So this is going on in Atlanta, and we would
Speaker 7: love for you to come there.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think that'd be a great video for me
Speaker 3: to go do. So I'll take you up on that one.
Speaker 5: Do you have like a maybe a tier list or
Speaker 5: a rank list of places you most want to go
Speaker 5: to that you haven't Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I gotta keep that one a secret, but
Speaker 3: that's on there. I think that'd be really good because
Speaker 3: in California, for instance, and I did a video just
Speaker 3: to show like how easy it would be to vote
Speaker 3: in general without voter ID. There was a lady. This
Speaker 3: also goes back to me talking about how non controversial
Speaker 3: issues had become controversial. There was a lady who registered
Speaker 3: her dog to vote. She was a Republican. The dog
Speaker 3: voted twice, once successfully, the second time didn't go successfully,
Speaker 3: and then she then turned herself in. You had Democrats
Speaker 3: the next day defending the dog. We're pro dog people,
Speaker 3: we're pro dog people, but the fact was whether it's
Speaker 3: a Democrat Republican. Just to show the fact that a
Speaker 3: dog's registered to vote, you had a person literally not
Speaker 3: even a person. You had thousands of people defending the dog.
Speaker 3: And they didn't see the issue because it's not a
Speaker 3: right or left issue, but they couldn't. But because they
Speaker 3: made a left right issue, it became one. But they
Speaker 3: couldn't say that it's not good that a dog was
Speaker 3: registered to vote.
Speaker 5: Would you rather have dogs voting or dead people or
Speaker 5: illegal rank?
Speaker 3: I mean, I think a dog would probably be smarter,
Speaker 3: but hopefully none of them.
Speaker 2: I d like nice to see.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for what you do. It's a
Speaker 3: quick question.
Speaker 8: Where did you get your sweatshirt?
Speaker 5: Because I want to buy one.
Speaker 3: Yes, these are Sureley Defense dot Com. They'll be out
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Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 7: Second question, I don't know if you get this a lot,
Speaker 7: but how does your faith play into what you do?
Speaker 7: Because I know you mentioned you know, your church and
Speaker 7: stuff like that, So how does that really play into
Speaker 7: your role?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it plays a lot into I think, just who
Speaker 3: I am in general. And today I have my grandpa
Speaker 3: here as well, he's right there. I brought him with me,
Speaker 3: and uh so having having people around me that are
Speaker 3: also in the same morals, and my faith played a
Speaker 3: big role into because I think it saved me from
Speaker 3: a lot of things when it's growing up with like
Speaker 3: just everything that a young man goes through these days,
Speaker 3: My morals were super strong because of my faith and
Speaker 3: because of the people I looked up to, whether it's
Speaker 3: my Grandpa, Jesus. Uh just having those strong figures in
Speaker 3: my life I really looked up to. It saved me
Speaker 3: from really ever getting down into anything that I shouldn't
Speaker 3: have been into. And so nowadays, like just like how
Speaker 3: I go about doing my stuff, I don't My goal
Speaker 3: is never for someone to be like, oh, Nick's part
Speaker 3: of this religion or that religion, just like oh no,
Speaker 3: he follows Jesus Christ. I think that's the most important
Speaker 3: thing for me.
Speaker 5: Anyone else out there got one?
Speaker 3: There?
Speaker 5: Oh, I can tell we got more of them.
Speaker 9: I don't need a mic, but I'll use one, thank
Speaker 9: you so much. And I agree there's a lot of fraud.
Speaker 9: And I know all the key conservative people who've exposed this.
Speaker 9: And one thing I want shell to remember. We have
Speaker 9: an awful Republican secretary of state. His name is Brad Rettensburger.
Speaker 9: It's not really it's Raffensburger, but he's a rat and
Speaker 9: he's still running and he registered again under a Republican ticket.
Speaker 9: And I just got to tell you all this story.
Speaker 9: He called me three or four years ago. He knew
Speaker 9: me I'm active in politics, and he said, will you
Speaker 9: give me some money? And I said, have you lost
Speaker 9: your mind? You are a traitor, syrup And I went
Speaker 9: off on him and he listened, and then all of
Speaker 9: a sudden he said, well, I guess you're not going
Speaker 9: to give me any money. I said no, but he
Speaker 9: called me again four months ago. I'm just saying, this
Speaker 9: is a corrupt state, my state.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think just in general, we're seeing how
Speaker 3: corrupt everything is.
Speaker 5: I mean, because it's not a blue state.
Speaker 4: Thing.
Speaker 5: It's a it's many.
Speaker 3: States, many state thing, because yeah, it's in all states
Speaker 3: and you're seeing it now, which is interesting that now
Speaker 3: you're even seeing like the administration put a focus on it,
Speaker 3: like they literally have open up a whole new I
Speaker 3: don't know if it's a department or agency or whatever,
Speaker 3: but they opened up a whole new thing just to
Speaker 3: crack down on the fraud. I think there's a new
Speaker 3: attorney General and JD. Vance is heading this new department
Speaker 3: I think about the fraud, which is a direct I
Speaker 3: would like to say it's a direct reaction to what
Speaker 3: we exposed in Minnesota because they weren't really talking about
Speaker 3: it before. No, I think and people in the thing
Speaker 3: with these fraudsters is they got away with it for
Speaker 3: so long, and it was literally right in front of
Speaker 3: our face, like the Leering Center was in front of
Speaker 3: everyone's face.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it really was. And I want to give you
Speaker 5: credit for this that your video, of course gets one
Speaker 5: hundred and fifty million views. But as an example, CBS
Speaker 5: News just did a big story on I believe it
Speaker 5: was hospice fraud in California. And that's another thing where
Speaker 5: we've been seeing allegations about that for a long time,
Speaker 5: and it's almost the novel idea of we've had. We
Speaker 5: have dozens of different publications in this country, and they
Speaker 5: can write yet another story about how Hitler or something,
Speaker 5: or you could cover something that half of America would
Speaker 5: find immediately compelling and no one is talking about it,
Speaker 5: and it is right in front of your face. And
Speaker 5: I guess that's probably your message to other young people.
Speaker 5: So much stuff is right in front of you if
Speaker 5: you just pick up a camera, pick up a microphone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and not every person needs to go and become
Speaker 3: a YouTuber, but they can go and do their own
Speaker 3: little investigation. If they see something, then take it to
Speaker 3: the person who you can go and take that too.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of people that work inside of the
Speaker 3: state governments and a lot of people who actually do
Speaker 3: get into politics because they want to make change. So
Speaker 3: there's a lot of people in the government who actually
Speaker 3: do want to create change. It's not just so much
Speaker 3: of crazies that are trying to destroy the United States.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of them, but there's also a lot
Speaker 3: of really good people who are trying to make a difference.
Speaker 5: Do you have any sense maybe where in government you're
Speaker 5: most likely to find someone who'd be helpful, who might
Speaker 5: give you a helpful tip.
Speaker 3: M that's a tough question. Well, I think like the
Speaker 3: a lot of the public record, a lot of this
Speaker 3: information need if you request it, they have to give
Speaker 3: it to you. So depending on what kind of fraud
Speaker 3: do you want to look at, you need to then
Speaker 3: go and find the department that's underneath that, and a
Speaker 3: lot of that information should be public information. You just
Speaker 3: have to request it. And sometimes like David had a
Speaker 3: request for years to get that those numbers because they
Speaker 3: didn't want to release it, and then he eventually had
Speaker 3: somebody from inside the capital release it to him. So
Speaker 3: it is like you do have to go around a
Speaker 3: lot make it happen because they don't want to fraud
Speaker 3: be exposed. And that's one of the reasons why there
Speaker 3: is so much fraud, because they have made it so complicated.
Speaker 3: It's like almost too complicated sometimes.
Speaker 5: And I believe even in Minnesota they've been hiding information
Speaker 5: about daycares now, which yes, that's one way to respond
Speaker 5: to finding what you found.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the way to hide fraud is to make it
Speaker 3: super complex to or people can't really track it down
Speaker 3: just look up how funding goes, Like look up on
Speaker 3: your AI how does funding work for daycares in California?
Speaker 3: There's like four different categories for them to make get
Speaker 3: money from the government. Like why do you need four
Speaker 3: different categories to get money to run a daycare? Like
Speaker 3: how how's that even possible? Like what's the purpose of that?
Speaker 3: Should just be as simple as it shouldn't It should
Speaker 3: be very simple, Like shouldn't one category be enough?
Speaker 5: I think we have time for one or two more.
Speaker 3: Thanks for coming in today.
Speaker 10: I just want to echo where the two ladies from
Speaker 10: Georgia said in terms of topics to cover, probably with
Speaker 10: even more focused in the coming months about election integrity.
Speaker 10: I think this is such a vital component. And have
Speaker 10: you ever considered uniting with I don't know, James o'
Speaker 10: keith or any of the other people who do what
Speaker 10: you do so well to really pressure Congress to do
Speaker 10: something about this before the next elections, because we're not
Speaker 10: sure how it's going to turn out, but this has
Speaker 10: got to be done.
Speaker 3: Yeah, James is a good friend. A lot of other
Speaker 3: journalists like Savannah Hernandez is a great friend. Ken Higby
Speaker 3: is a great friend, and I think honestly when you
Speaker 3: tackle these these top these topics, I'm trying to determine
Speaker 3: if it's better to do it all at once or
Speaker 3: come out at different angles like and so I've done
Speaker 3: video that James in the past, for instance, and he's
Speaker 3: a great person and I do think it would be
Speaker 3: beneficial to do something together as well. I had to
Speaker 3: kind of really just drop a bomb of dynamite on him.
Speaker 3: I we'll go one more question, Blake.
Speaker 11: Hi, Nick, my name is Pastor. I come from San Diego.
Speaker 11: My father in law recently had a rental property in
Speaker 11: Spring Valley, which is predominantly a Chaldean you know community,
Speaker 11: and he said, you know, within it a few days
Speaker 11: he got like, I don't know, twenty requests and they
Speaker 11: were like mainly Section eight housing and he said he
Speaker 11: would bring the people in and they would check it out.
Speaker 11: And there was just so many, like you know, there
Speaker 11: were stories of like one hundred and twenty thousand or
Speaker 11: Mercedes pulling up. And I guess how it works with
Speaker 11: Sex and eight housing is I think they only have
Speaker 11: to pay about ten percent of the rent per month,
Speaker 11: so your rent's like three thousand. The applicant or you know,
Speaker 11: whoever will has to pay like three hundred dollars a
Speaker 11: month and they could own a seven to eleven, or
Speaker 11: they could be making a few hundred thousand dollars a
Speaker 11: year and they're not spending any money on rent, and
Speaker 11: they're not spending any money on taxes. We're all paying
Speaker 11: for them to live. Have you thought about maybe approaching
Speaker 11: that or that'd be a little more difficult because you know,
Speaker 11: going to a business as far as you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So that just goes to show like how bad
Speaker 3: the fraud is. Like it's everywhere, whether it's the daycares,
Speaker 3: the hospice centers, or the homes like section eight, like
Speaker 3: what he's talking about Section eight, and so, I mean,
Speaker 3: there's a lot of fraud to tackle only one man,
Speaker 3: but we're working on expanding.
Speaker 5: It's a line I saw someone remark the other day
Speaker 5: is we actually just had the number of American adults
Speaker 5: who are not in the labor force has I believe,
Speaker 5: passed the previous record high, which was during COVID. And
Speaker 5: as he pointed out, we're not seeing people starve to death.
Speaker 5: So people are getting by somehow, and a lot of
Speaker 5: it is through there's one government program out after another,
Speaker 5: and as you saw that so many of these businesses
Speaker 5: that are fraud adjacent. They'll you know, you'll have your
Speaker 5: daycare center and your medicaid center and your medical transport company,
Speaker 5: and they'll all conveniently be in the same building.
Speaker 3: Oh it's so bad. And think about how much more
Speaker 3: of a benefit these people would would be to society
Speaker 3: if they spend the same amount of time on thinking
Speaker 3: about how to defraud us versus actually like getting a
Speaker 3: job and providing some sort of benefit to society.
Speaker 5: Imagine that.
Speaker 3: Imagine that because any thought schemes aren't aren't like small,
Speaker 3: like they're billions of dollars.
Speaker 5: Right complicated anything else out there. Prosecution.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so in Minnesota they found, for instance, like the
Speaker 3: main daycare that was receiving like three point six seven
Speaker 3: million dollars. The lady tried to flee to the UK
Speaker 3: on one way ticket, and they caught her and arrested
Speaker 3: her at the airport. And then they just arrested another
Speaker 3: person with autism who are not with his I key,
Speaker 3: never mind, I'm not gonna go there. But so he
Speaker 3: go out arrested for autism center fraud. And so now
Speaker 3: that like the evidence there, I think this is what
Speaker 3: I hope the federal government's waiting or not waiting, but
Speaker 3: they're getting gathering all the information so that when it
Speaker 3: does come time to do those prosecutions, they can then
Speaker 3: just go and tackle them all.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: My personal take is, if you're in a red state,
Speaker 5: what you can advocate for now is, I know we
Speaker 5: aren't fans of big government, but you can say, let's
Speaker 5: hire more prosecutors in our state AG's office and go
Speaker 5: after these things. Because in Minnesota, for example, we saw
Speaker 5: the federal prosecutor he said, I am prosecuting as much
Speaker 5: of this as I can. There is just too much
Speaker 5: of it for us to get all of it. And
Speaker 5: I suspect that's the case in many places. But I'm
Speaker 5: being told we need to wrap. So make surely everybody.
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