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Speaker 4: All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. Over

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Speaker 4: the weekend, of course, there was a terrible attack in

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Speaker 4: Jews to just explain what this terrible attack has meant

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Speaker 5: So much Andrew.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so just give us your first impressions when you

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Speaker 5: Well, the first thing that comes to mind is Charlie

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Speaker 5: And I've seen after October seventh how the Fellowship has

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Speaker 5: We've placed thousands of bomb shelters. We've gone into Syria

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Speaker 5: You know, Andrew. If there's one thing that I've seen

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well said, And you know it's tragic that this

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Speaker 4: You bring such a positive energy to this and I

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Speaker 5: Well, there's an amazing resilience that you see in Israel.

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Speaker 5: And we're just standing strong in prayer that God promises

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Speaker 5: He says, Israel is forever, Israel ultimately together with the

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Speaker 4: Well, we appreciate I didn't I actually didn't know that

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Speaker 2: That's a really powerful.

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Speaker 4: Thing that you're contributing to IFCJ dot org yaill is

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Speaker 4: so good to see you and thank you for speaking

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Speaker 2: We could use more of that.

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Speaker 5: Thank you for everything you do. Keep up the good work.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, yaile. Talk to you soon.

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Speaker 4: All right, so big, huge stories still kind of going on.

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Speaker 4: Nick Reiner, Rob Reiner's son has now appeared in court

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Speaker 2: In the door. Yeah, because the law term atoms are

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Speaker 4: You know whatever. No, sometimes for some people. Now you

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Speaker 4: All Right, Kurt Schlichter, senior columnists at town Hall. He's

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Speaker 4: also got a new book, another one of his Kelly

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Speaker 4: Turnbull novels. This is Panama Read. Congratulations, Kurt. I don't

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Speaker 2: Tell us about it.

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Speaker 3: Well, thanks.

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Speaker 7: I it helps that I'm no longer a full time lawyer,

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Speaker 7: so I'm excited about that. Yeah, for many reasons, including

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Speaker 7: I started the People's Republic series about ten years ago

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Speaker 7: People's Republic and Andrew. These have all been best sellers.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's awesome. Congratulations. Honestly, I think, you know, people

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Speaker 2: Why are you being even more adamant, Kurt?

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Speaker 7: Look, the basis of all rights are armed citizens who

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Speaker 7: I'll take my own personal defense in my own hands.

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Speaker 3: It makes you safer.

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Speaker 7: The police are not there as our personal bodyguards, Okay.

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Speaker 7: Now, there are some cowardly the ones in Uvaldi need

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Speaker 7: in Texas, I'm carrying all the time. Legally California they

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Speaker 7: don't trust a guy who commanded thousands of people with

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Speaker 7: automatic weapons on the streets. But in Texas they seem

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Speaker 7: to think I'm okay, so I carry a weapon. I

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Speaker 7: may be out gunned, I may be outnumbered. But you know, Andrew,

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Speaker 7: if I'm if I'm engaging bad guys, you know, a

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Speaker 7: retired officer, army officer, they're shooting me, and they're not

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Speaker 7: shooting women, they're not shooting children, they're not shooting other citizens.

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Speaker 2: That's true.

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Speaker 4: That's a good point, Kurt. Let's hear from Erica. This

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Speaker 4: was that deal book New York Times deal book last week.

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Speaker 8: Uh, they're living in a day and aid where they

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Speaker 8: think violence is the solution to them, not wanting to

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Speaker 8: hear a different point of view. That's not a gun problem.

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Speaker 8: That's that's a human, deeply human problem.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought she.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's just such a I get upset because

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Speaker 4: I'm protective of Erica, you know, and it's just a

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Speaker 4: very you know, given what happened to Charlie, it's a

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Speaker 4: pretty it's a pretty you know. I would say, tough

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Speaker 4: question to be asking a widow, But whatever, she did

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Speaker 4: a great job, and she's absolutely right. It's not a

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Speaker 4: gun problem. That's a human problem. What about that Devil's

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Speaker 4: advocate question for you, Kurt if So? You know, you

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Speaker 4: got all these pot smokers now are about to legalize that,

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Speaker 4: we got all the we got a bunch of mental illness.

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Speaker 4: You know, has our society fallen so far that we

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Speaker 4: can't be trusted with guns anymore?

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Speaker 7: Well, look, there are some people who can't be trusted

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Speaker 7: with guns, obviously, criminals, mentally illp drug addicts. We've seen

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Speaker 7: the horrible you know, in just the last days, we've

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Speaker 7: seen what mental illness and drug addiction can do. But again,

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Speaker 7: the potential for bad people out there to do bad things.

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Speaker 7: Does not compel me to make myself defenseless.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough.

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Speaker 7: The answer to crime is to deal with criminals. Well,

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Speaker 7: and the part about this still law abiding citizen.

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Speaker 4: Part of this story and be like, I don't know

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Speaker 4: if you have a take on this, but like the

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Speaker 4: son that I think he's twenty four years old, in

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Speaker 4: this instance, he had been investigated by being linked to

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Speaker 4: an ISIS cell. He has investigated for lings. I think

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Speaker 4: they didn't nothing. They found jahadis ISIS flags in the car.

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Speaker 4: I mean this guy was completely motivated by Jahadist ideology.

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Speaker 2: So I mean I'm bad a good boy. That's what

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Speaker 2: the mom said. He's just a good boy, Kurt.

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Speaker 7: There are bad people out there who want to murder

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Speaker 7: or enslave us. Well, I don't want to be murdered

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Speaker 7: and I won't be a slave. The answer is not

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Speaker 7: a monopoly on violence by an unaccountable government, but a

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Speaker 7: monopoly on violence by the people, by the citizens.

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Speaker 3: If those guys were.

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Speaker 7: Sitting there, walking around, confident and cool and collected until

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Speaker 7: the police showed up and engaged them, if there was

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Speaker 7: an American citizen, if that was in Texas where a

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Speaker 7: lot of people carry weapons. Those guys would not been

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Speaker 7: able to do that. They would have had to deal

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Speaker 7: with the tactical problem of people firing weapons at them.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 7: Maybe a cig P three two, three sixty five, maybe

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Speaker 7: a forty five, maybe a long weapon.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 7: The tactical problem for a mass killer is somebody shooting

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Speaker 7: at him. He's got to engage that. When he's doing that,

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Speaker 7: everybody else has a chance to take cover and protect themselves.

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Speaker 3: That's what we need.

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Speaker 4: I'm just reminded of that. Remember that hero's name was

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Speaker 4: Jack Wilson. Do you remember this story in Yeah Jack?

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Speaker 4: So Jack Wilson just pulled up an image of him.

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Speaker 4: But this was in It looks like let's see here.

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Speaker 4: It was in twenty nineteen. He was a firearms instructor

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Speaker 4: and former reserve sheriff's deputy who fatally shot a gunman

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Speaker 4: during a service at the West Freeway Church of Christ

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Speaker 4: in White Settlement, Texas. And that was on yeah, December

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Speaker 4: twenty nineteen. He took a single shot and ended the attack,

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Speaker 4: which saved an estimated, well they say, two hundred and

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Speaker 4: fifty people in the congregation, but who knows how many

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Speaker 4: would have ultimately been killed. But that I mean, that

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Speaker 4: is the sort of that could have been this situation.

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Speaker 4: But Australia has pursued a disarmament campaign. Let's hear from

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Speaker 4: Charlie Kirk. This is, you know, the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 4: After all, he talks about this one eighteen.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's much more of a brokenness of humanity problem

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Speaker 1: or a sin problem, not the actual tool itself. But honestly,

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Speaker 1: I think we should have less gun laws, not more.

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Speaker 1: People disagree with this.

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Speaker 2: It's a right.

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Speaker 1: People should be able to protect themselves as they see

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Speaker 1: fit in states that generally have more guns, not less guns,

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Speaker 1: like Houston. Yes, you do have some more gun deaths

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Speaker 1: amongst inner city gangs, but violent crime tends to go down.

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Speaker 1: And so I don't want to disarm peaceful, law abiding

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Speaker 1: people just because some people abuse that tool or that technology.

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Speaker 1: And so when you look at gun deaths in this country,

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Speaker 1: there are thirty thousand gun deaths a year. Two thirds

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Speaker 1: of them are death by suicide. Okay, so that number

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Speaker 1: shouldn't have been in there. The vast majority of the

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Speaker 1: gun deaths that are related, that are are the ones

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Speaker 1: in the remainder are individuals in gangs and inner cities

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Speaker 1: that use guns in kind of gang violence.

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Speaker 2: So there's lots of categories there.

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Speaker 7: Look, I started shooting when I was six. My dad

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Speaker 7: was a country guy. Even though I'm a BMW driving

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Speaker 7: LA lawyer, I still have that blood in me. I've

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Speaker 7: had guns around me all my life. I've carried weapons

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Speaker 7: as an army officer overseas and here. I've never shot anybody.

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Speaker 7: I've never heard anybody, and there's zero chance I'm going

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Speaker 7: to unless I have a good reason to. Tens of

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Speaker 7: millions of other Americans are just like me, law abiding, peaceful,

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Speaker 7: but ready to defend ourselves, our families, our communities, and

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Speaker 7: our constitutions. We're not giving up our guns. It's not

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Speaker 7: a discussion. That's how it's going to be.

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Speaker 4: That's right, Good Americana there, Kurt. Good conversation is about

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Speaker 4: showing respect. It's how we create a space where people

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Speaker 4: are able to share their ideas and to be heard.

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Speaker 4: Charlie knew that TikTok has always strived to build that

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Speaker 4: kind of place that thrives unrespectful connection, where curiosity fuels

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Speaker 4: connection and we can share what's on our minds and

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Speaker 4: learn from each other. When ideas meet respect good things happen.

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Speaker 2: On TikTok.

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Speaker 4: You can find a mechanic explaining the why behind a

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Speaker 4: problem most of us wouldn't even know how to name,

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Speaker 4: or a father sharing a lifetime of knowledge with his viewers.

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Speaker 4: Viewers who listen, discuss and respond. TikTok turns connection into

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Speaker 4: community through small acts of understanding. You can feel it

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Speaker 4: in the comments in the thank you from a stranger

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Speaker 4: halfway across the world. TikTok is a place where respect

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Speaker 4: opens the door for discussion, and discussion helps us build

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Speaker 4: something real.

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Speaker 1: Portions of our program are sponsored in part by TikTok.

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Speaker 4: All right, go ahead and throw up this Vanity Fair picture.

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Speaker 4: You get one minute to react to the Susie Wilds

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Speaker 4: interview and this picture.

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Speaker 7: Go Why are you talking to Vanity Fair? Let me

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Speaker 7: say it again because I can't believe I have to

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Speaker 7: say it.

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Speaker 3: Why are you talking to Vanity Fair?

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Speaker 7: I mean, was Brian tater Stelder busy?

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Speaker 5: I mean?

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Speaker 3: Why are you talking to Vanity Fair?

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Speaker 2: Look at the picture again. It is really well shot.

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Speaker 7: It's a beautiful shot that hits hard people who need

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Speaker 7: to answer the question, why are you talking to Vanity Fair?

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Speaker 7: I don't understand it and then and then.

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Speaker 3: You're like shocked, Oh, well they lied about what I said.

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Speaker 3: They misconstruct they taught me out of context.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, okay, apparently fair.

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Speaker 4: Apparently this this reporter is is known for doing books

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Speaker 4: and interviews with chiefs of staff And I'm getting my

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Speaker 4: studio is laughing at you. But we're gonna switch topics

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Speaker 4: here to Mark. Wayne Mollin kind of made some waves

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Speaker 4: yesterday by saying he's kind of in favor of NUKI

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Speaker 4: and the philibuster. I have questions, though, I want to

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Speaker 4: talk about the pros and the cons.

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Speaker 9: One there was a conversation that's taking place to saying, well,

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Speaker 9: maybe we don't do all the filibusters, but we just

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Speaker 9: do it when it comes to appropriations. Well that's where

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Speaker 9: the policy is made to appropriations. Anyways, I think that's

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Speaker 9: a sound policy for us to have a serious conversation about.

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Speaker 9: Because we only had three years here, let's go all in,

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Speaker 9: and I'm in that favor. Where you're at right now

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Speaker 9: is let's go all in. Let's get this thing done,

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Speaker 9: because we're not going to get immigration policy done with

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Speaker 9: bipartisan support. My position on the filibuster has changed.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so that actually I'll be honest, Blake, that was

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Speaker 4: music to my ears. I was like, if we're not

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Speaker 4: going to get immigration policy? And I kind of thought

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Speaker 4: about as we talked.

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Speaker 6: About It's true, you only do this if you're going

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Speaker 6: to do a big thing.

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Speaker 4: But do we have the votes even if we nuked

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Speaker 4: the filibuster?

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Speaker 7: Probably not. I remember there are a lot of people

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Speaker 7: who don't want the revolution. Aren't counter revolution that were

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Speaker 7: that Donald Trump and the populists are are trying to have.

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Speaker 7: They There are so many Indiana Republicans spread all through America.

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Speaker 4: Into a pejorative I mean, it's so good the Indiana

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Speaker 4: don't be in Indiana that though.

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Speaker 6: That'll motivate them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, probably the tune out get those that'll motivate them

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Speaker 4: more than the R word.

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Speaker 6: They're going to send us the biggest winger in Senate history.

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Speaker 2: We are all in, by the way, Kurt, we are

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Speaker 2: going to practice.

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Speaker 7: I went to Indiana and talk to them. They're hardcore,

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Speaker 7: and I'm from California, so I know what hardcore looks like,

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Speaker 7: because that's all.

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Speaker 3: That's left of us as Republicans.

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Speaker 7: Ye, look the look I I would love to maintain

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Speaker 7: the filibuster if we could I think it is a

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Speaker 7: useful product. But as I wrote to my town Hall

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Speaker 7: column a while ago, and I write Monday, Wednesday, and Thursday,

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Speaker 7: and everybody should go read them. Uh, the Democrats are

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Speaker 7: definitely given the chance going to end the filibuster for

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Speaker 7: everything and do whatever they want.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 7: I would love the opportunity to do whatever we want

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Speaker 7: because we only have three years to prove ourselves and

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Speaker 7: our policies will work.

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Speaker 3: As we saw when Ronald Reagan was elected.

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Speaker 7: Uh, that's a little before your time, and when Donald

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Speaker 7: Trump was elected the first time, that's probably before your

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Speaker 7: time too. Our policies do work. It would be good

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Speaker 7: for us to get them in. And then again, there

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Speaker 7: are benefits to having the filibuster.

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Speaker 3: Maybe make a deal. Okay, we're either going to make.

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Speaker 7: The filibuster permanent by a constitutional amendment, or we're going

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Speaker 7: to change it and then use it to our advantage

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Speaker 7: because you guys are going to do it to us,

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Speaker 7: and we know you're going to do.

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Speaker 3: It to us, because you've told us you're going to

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Speaker 3: do it to us.

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Speaker 7: I would love to see things like immigration, national concealed carry.

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Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, it's so there's so many things should

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Speaker 7: we do them?

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Speaker 6: Good question, Yeah, if you should do it, if you

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Speaker 6: have the votes to pass things that really matter, and

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Speaker 6: your next funding threshold is not a thing that really

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Speaker 6: matters the way, you know, existentially for this country fifty

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Speaker 6: years there.

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Speaker 4: Immigration voter, I d there's a few that are are

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Speaker 4: truly truly important. If we could, if we could take

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Speaker 4: the Puerto Rico, the DC, maybe even Guam statehood off

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Speaker 4: the table, I think the country would be much better off.

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Speaker 4: So I don't maybe it is a deal, Kurt. I

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Speaker 4: hadn't thought about making a deal because I'm just assuming

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Speaker 4: they'll break the contract as soon as they get powered.

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Speaker 7: So put in the Constitution Panama.

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Speaker 4: Read Kurt's new book. Please check it out. Kurt Schlickter,

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Speaker 4: are always a pleasure to have you seen your columnists

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Speaker 4: at town Hall? What what days do to your columns again?

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Speaker 3: Mondays, Wednesdays and Thursdays?

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Speaker 7: All right, yeah, yeah, and a uh yeah, And they

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Speaker 7: really make the Libs and the Fredo Conservatives mad Kurt Slickter.

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Speaker 2: All right, guys, we'll see you all tomorrow.

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Speaker 7: Until then, for more on many of these stories and

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