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Speaker 1: by Nebraska Senator deb Fisher. Senator Fisher is a member

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Speaker 1: of the United States Senate's Armed Services Committee. Senator welcome.

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Speaker 1: Give us your assessment of the first ten days of

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Speaker 1: the battle with Iran.

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Speaker 2: Hik you.

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Speaker 3: It's just great to be with you. First of all,

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Speaker 3: I support the President and the administration's actions that they've.

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Speaker 2: Taken on a run.

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Speaker 3: This is a state sponsor of terrorism around the world.

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Speaker 3: They are a threat to our country, so I think

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Speaker 3: that the actions are being taken.

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Speaker 2: Have been good. First of all, we've been given briefings.

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Speaker 3: A number of times. We just had another classified briefing

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Speaker 3: this morning on the Arm Services Committee about what's happening,

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Speaker 3: how it's progressing. But the administration's been clear, as I said,

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Speaker 3: on those military objectives, and that's to make sure that

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Speaker 3: Iran does not get a nuclear weapon.

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Speaker 2: It's also to destroy their.

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Speaker 3: Ballistic missile capability right now.

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Speaker 2: That short range and medium range.

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Speaker 3: Capabilities that those ballistic missiles have. But looking forward, it

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Speaker 3: would be a year maybe two before Iran would have

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Speaker 2: That can't happen. That would put Europe in play for them.

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Speaker 2: It would be.

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Speaker 3: Dangerous, and then it's just not hopskipping a jump until

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Speaker 3: they would threaten the United States. So we need to

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Speaker 3: take out those capabilities. And then the third one was

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Speaker 3: to be able to destroy their navy, and we've seen

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Speaker 3: a lot of accomplishment there. Over thirty forty ships have

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Speaker 3: been taken out of action, and that's important due to

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Speaker 3: the straits of hormouse and commerce. We need to make

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Speaker 3: sure that that commerce can still travel safely through that area.

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Speaker 3: And by taking out their navy and taking out their

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Speaker 3: ballistic missiles, that's going to help us to make that

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Speaker 3: a safe passage once again.

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Speaker 1: Senna Fisher, your colleague, Sennor Blimenthal from Connecticut is a Democrat.

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Speaker 1: He came down to talk to reporters today and said

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Speaker 1: he'd been in a classified briefing and he believed we

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Speaker 1: were preparing to send ground troops to Iran. I don't

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Speaker 1: know where he got that. Have you heard that.

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Speaker 3: Senator Bloomenthal was in the same briefing that I was in, now, Hugh,

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Speaker 3: I don't talk about what we discuss in classified briefings,

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Speaker 3: but I can tell you that was.

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Speaker 2: Not my understanding, and I was.

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Speaker 3: There throughout the major part of the brief including Sender

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Speaker 3: Blumenthal's questions that he asked, and I specifically asked some

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Speaker 3: questions related to ground troops as well as we both

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Speaker 3: known as your listeners know, the Department of War makes

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Speaker 3: plans for many contingencies.

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Speaker 2: That are out there. We want that to happen.

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Speaker 3: We want to be able to have our military look

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Speaker 3: at what the objectives are in any area to achieve

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Speaker 3: and then what steps they would take, and then to

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Speaker 3: practice on those. But it's up to the commander in chief.

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Speaker 3: It's up to President Trump to determine when those plans

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Speaker 3: into practice. We saw that with Venezuela and learned later

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Speaker 3: that that was a plan that had been in place

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Speaker 3: for many years, as well as the Twelve Day War

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Speaker 3: phrased that the way that Senator Bluementhal tried to phrase

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Speaker 1: Now, I'd like to move on to the cost. It's

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Speaker 1: obviously large, and it's going to be getting larger and

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Speaker 1: perhaps into the hundreds of billions. So usually in wartime

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Speaker 1: and in time of a battle or a conflict, the

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Speaker 1: United States Congress would vote a supplemental appropriation. I don't

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Speaker 1: think the Democrats will support that. They're against this battle.

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Speaker 1: I'm not even sure they want us to win this battle.

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Speaker 1: But what about using reconciliation? Senator? That would require the

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Speaker 1: budget committees of both houses to agree on the top line,

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Speaker 1: on a DoD line, on a and then come to

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Speaker 1: your committee Committee of Authorization and then to appropriation. Is

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Speaker 1: that a simple majority? Is that on the table?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 2: I think we need to look at everything.

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Speaker 3: This is important that we are able to pass additional

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Speaker 3: mentioned earlier, number of the objectives that are that are

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Speaker 3: see what happens the speaker. Speaker Johnson has talked about

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Speaker 3: doing a reconciliation in the House. We'll see if if

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Speaker 3: they're able to do that. I guess you, I still

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Speaker 3: have hopes that we can get a supplemental done. I

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Speaker 3: think the more information that the Administration can give us

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Speaker 3: of what you know they're they're doing moving forward. So

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Speaker 3: I still have some hope for a supplemental. I think

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Speaker 3: there's different ways that we can put one together and

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Speaker 3: maybe address other issues besides just looking at around itself.

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Speaker 1: Last question, Senator, I have not heard one Democrat unequivocally

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Speaker 1: embrace the idea of winning, of having this regime which

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Speaker 1: is a malign in evil presence and has been for

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Speaker 1: forty seven years. Fall have you heard any Democrat advocate

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Speaker 1: for by whatever means it comes about popular revolution, a

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Speaker 1: coup inside the regime itself at cracks, whether or not

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Speaker 1: we kill every Mula that ever wants to be the

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Speaker 1: supreme leader, I don't know how it is, But does

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Speaker 1: any Democrat speak in terms of winning and what an

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Speaker 1: unqualified good that would be for the world and for

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Speaker 1: the people of Iran.

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Speaker 2: I haven't heard them say that. What I've heard from every.

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Speaker 3: Democrat is they always begin by saying, you know, we're

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Speaker 2: Was taken out. He was an evil man, he needed

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Speaker 3: But and then they go on in a not in

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Speaker 3: a supportive way for the actions that this administration is

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Speaker 3: taken in addressing it. You know, we've seen forty seven

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Speaker 3: years of Republican and Democrat administrations say that around is

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Speaker 3: a threat to this country. They've killed hundreds of Americans,

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Speaker 3: they sponsor terrorists around the world. We are not safe

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Speaker 3: because of the actions that they have and they were

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Speaker 3: continuing to work on developing and enriching uranium, developing a

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Speaker 2: And yet we don't seem to hear that. I was

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Speaker 3: Say full throat in support from Democrats, but any of

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Speaker 3: this is necessary, this has to happen.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: God bless our troops, God bless our commander in chief

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Speaker 3: for stepping forward and finally taking action to remove this evil, horrible,

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Speaker 3: more and more emboldened so they could blackmail the world.

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Speaker 1: It would be nice to hear one.

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Speaker 2: Democratic understand why they can't do that.

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Speaker 1: If you find one centator like Diogenes with a lamp,

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Speaker 1: please let me know and I'll interview them. Just one,

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Speaker 1: just one Democrat. Senator Deb Fisher from the Great Katy, Nebraska.

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Speaker 1: See David. I just spoke with Sender Deb Fisher of Nebraska,

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Speaker 1: and I asked her if one Democrat, one Democrat had

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Speaker 1: come out and unequivocally called for victory in the battle

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Speaker 1: with Iran so that the Iranian people might be free,

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Speaker 1: in the world a better place. And she said no,

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Speaker 1: to her knowledge, have you heard even one Democrat call

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Speaker 5: I'm trying to think here.

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Speaker 6: I think we may have heard some sentiments like that

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Speaker 6: from possibly Josh Gotheimer in the House, Jared Moskowitz in

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Speaker 6: just on their opposition to the war generally, but their

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Speaker 6: why now, even though the Iranian threat they acknowledge exists.

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Speaker 1: You know, after Yosemite sam on all of its neighbors

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Speaker 1: ideologically incapable offending the hard left of their party. Here's

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Speaker 1: a tougher question. Should Republicans in the House and the

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Speaker 1: say it was right to have been begun, and we

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Speaker 1: it in decisive fashion because they're going to own it,

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Speaker 1: whether or not they want to own it. It's their party,

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Speaker 1: it's their president, it's our president. Actually it's all Americans president,

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Speaker 1: but it's their nominee who started it. So shouldn't they

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Speaker 6: Well, from a political perspective, you're making a really good

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Speaker 6: It's just that you know, there are you know, some

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Speaker 6: are supportive of the president's action in Iran. But you

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Speaker 6: Diametrically opposed to what the President's doing for all sorts

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Speaker 6: broadly speaking, the why now and what.

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Speaker 5: The ultimate goal is.

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Speaker 6: But what I've heard from Republican elected is mostly you

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Speaker 6: you're getting that, you know, I think you know, when

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Speaker 5: A minute, that they have a fine find they have.

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Speaker 6: A tightrope to walk because you don't want to sound

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Speaker 5: That Iran has posted those over the last.

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Speaker 6: Nearly fifty years with a budding nuclear weapons program. On

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Speaker 5: But your overall point is.

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Speaker 6: An apt one, and that Republicans are going to own

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Speaker 6: a principled opposition, you might as well speak up and

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Speaker 1: That's my point. Deb Fisher, Nebraska, Tom Cotton Ark and

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Speaker 1: are very much for winning, and they argue this is

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Speaker 1: a malign regime. The world would be a much better place,

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Speaker 1: and certainly the Iranian people would be better off in

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Speaker 1: by Brett Bair. He was the host of Special Reports,

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Speaker 1: America's Newsman. Actually it's an anchor and you can watch

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Speaker 1: them tonight at six pm on the Fox News Channel. Brett, welcome.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember if you arrived in DC for

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Speaker 1: Okay? So yeah, you've been there for nine to eleven.

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Speaker 9: I think people are hearing different things and the same briefing.

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Speaker 9: He'll pick up in the Oval office and he's I'm

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Speaker 9: sitting here with Sixtair Rubio and Vice President's vance and

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Speaker 9: you know, you're thinking, you're going to get a the

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Speaker 9: up and he says, you know, hold on, Vice President's here,

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Speaker 9: sectors here, and you know you feel like, well, I

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Speaker 9: don't want to interrupt, you know, But he does pick up,

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Speaker 9: and he wants to get his message out.

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Speaker 1: And he's doing it a different It's unusual.

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Speaker 9: I think it'd be tough to be Caroline Levitt hment.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, last question, Senator Cotton gave a speech today

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Speaker 1: about anti semitism in the influencer world on the right

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Speaker 1: wing ecosphere. I don't know that we'll get picked up.

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Speaker 1: I think it it's extraordinarily significant, not unlike William F.

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Speaker 1: Buckley taking on the McCarthy Heights in the fifties. What

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Speaker 1: do you think of Senator Cotton's remarks.

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Speaker 9: I think he's laying down a marker. I think it's

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Speaker 9: a concern inside the Republican Party that there is. I mean, obviously,

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Speaker 9: everybody's for a free speech and everybody's for expressing yourself,

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Speaker 9: but it does seem to come from a point of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Center Cotton, good for him. Brett Bear always good

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Speaker 1: to talk to you. We'll be watching tonight at six

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Speaker 1: pm on the Fox News Channel, a special report gets going.

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Speaker 1: Always watch it, America's anchorman. Thank you, Brett, Welcome back

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Speaker 1: in America. Alex Gray is the CEO of American Global Strategies.

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Speaker 1: In term one of Donald Trump, he was the Chief

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Speaker 1: of Staff at the National Security Council. Alex Gray, welcome back.

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Speaker 1: Can you begin by telling us what you think whoever

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Speaker 1: has your job in tom II is doing this week,

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Speaker 1: because it's got to be wild. Yeah.

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Speaker 11: I can only imagine Hugh and having been there in

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Speaker 11: some wild moments, I think this may top them all. Look,

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Speaker 11: the biggest role that the National Security Council plays is

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Speaker 11: making sure that the information from the interagency, from the

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Speaker 11: intelligence community, from allies and partners gets disseminated through the

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Speaker 11: chain of command to the president in an actionable way

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Speaker 11: that gives some policy options. And you have multiple simultaneous,

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Speaker 11: somewhat interconnected crises going on, whether it's Cuba, Venezuela, obviously Iran,

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Speaker 11: but then the Ripplan effects with China, the upcoming trip

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Speaker 11: to China, the trade dynamics of that the Russia Ukraine

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Speaker 11: conflict and the interconnection with the Iran conflict. So what

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Speaker 11: you're going to be dealing with in that role is

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Speaker 11: this massive amount of incoming somewhat raw information that has

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Speaker 11: to be taken, synthesized, put into some form of useful

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Speaker 11: and actionable information, and then relate to decision makers up

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Speaker 11: to the President, including Secretary slash National Security Advisor Rubio,

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Speaker 11: in a way that they can make some sense out

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Speaker 11: of and turn into policy. And that is right now,

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Speaker 11: that's going to be one heck of a.

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Speaker 1: Job, Alex Gray. I'll come back to the battle with

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Speaker 1: they're on in a moment. But you did bring up

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Speaker 1: the president's scheduled trip to China where he'll sit down

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Speaker 1: with General Secretary Gi. We've had precedents like that before

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Speaker 1: during the Cold War one when President Nixon another would

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Speaker 1: sit down with Brashev or Joe and Lyon Mao. When

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Speaker 1: you add really no idea what the purpose was? What

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Speaker 1: do you think the purpose of this is?

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Speaker 11: Well, look, I think the purpose of this is to

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Speaker 11: give us something approaching and equilibrium. I don't think there's

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Speaker 11: any question that the President identifies China as the pacing

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Speaker 11: But I think the President did identify something based on

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Speaker 11: what happened after Liberation Day. He identified that because of

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Speaker 11: multiple administrations of both parties and their failure to prepare

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Speaker 11: our industrial base and our supply chains and to take

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Speaker 11: the proactive measures necessary, we don't have critical capacity in

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Speaker 11: things like rare earths and critical minerals and other things

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Speaker 11: that will give us the resilience and redundancy to sustain

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Speaker 11: the type of long term competition we need to have

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Speaker 11: has to buy us a little bit of time on

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Speaker 11: the economic front, which obviously has broader strategic implications, but

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Speaker 11: he's got to buy us a little bit of time

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Speaker 11: to get our own house in order. You're seeing him

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Speaker 11: taking really important steps to get those critical minerals and

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Speaker 11: rare earths in fighting shape. But I think part of

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Speaker 11: the purpose of the summit is to come in from

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Speaker 11: a position of strength, which he very much has following

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Speaker 11: Venezuela and Iran. He made a little allusion to that

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Speaker 11: earlier when he noted in a remark yesterday that we

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Speaker 11: don't have the dependency on oil from the Middle East

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Speaker 11: that the Chinese do. It was a very clear to me,

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Speaker 11: a very clear jab at hi jimping about who has leverage.

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Speaker 11: But at the same time, going into this talk, these talks,

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Speaker 11: the President has I think, has come to the realization

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Speaker 11: that we have to at least get the US China

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Speaker 11: time needed to get us prepared for the long term,

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Speaker 11: which Hugh, I think we learned over the last year.

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Speaker 11: We don't have the depth of resilience, particularly in the

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Speaker 11: industrial base, that we need to have for success in

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Speaker 11: the long term.

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Speaker 1: Well, I agree with that. I would like to see

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Speaker 1: a supplemental that addresses that, or at least a second

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Speaker 1: reconciliation that can pass on a majority vote that addresses funding.

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Speaker 1: And the National Security Council will ever get involved with

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Speaker 1: the omb's discussion about Department of War funding. Alex that

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Speaker 1: part of the wrint over there.

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Speaker 11: To some extent. You know, when I was there, Ambassador O'Brien,

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Speaker 11: the National Security Advisor, and Russ Vought then and now

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Speaker 11: Director of O and B. They had a great relationship.

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Speaker 11: They saw eye to eye on a lot of the

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Speaker 11: big questions we faced, including rebuilding the Navy and the

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Speaker 11: building our space capabilities. I think there's a lot there

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Speaker 11: should be a lot of interaction where NSC helps set

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Speaker 11: you take the president's priorities and then turn with O

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Speaker 11: and B turn those big strategic priorities into dollars and

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Speaker 11: cents that can go to Congress and turn into resources.

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Speaker 1: Alex Gray, I know in Trump won, the National Security

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Speaker 1: of Council helped President Trump put a focus on and

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Speaker 1: a demand signal out for hypersonic missiles and other weapons

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Speaker 1: of the New war, the war that we're watching right now,

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Speaker 1: which is not a ground game, it is a standoff

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Speaker 1: or standover if you're unthreatened. Do you think that the

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Speaker 1: demand signal coming out of this battle is going to

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Speaker 1: be more of that? Please?

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Speaker 11: Absolutely, Look, I don't think that we can have both

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Speaker 11: of these things be true at the same time. On

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Speaker 11: the one hand, we don't have sufficient munitions for what

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Speaker 11: we need to do in the potential Taiwan straight into

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Speaker 11: Pacific scenario. That's manifestly true. On the other hand, we

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Speaker 11: can't allow ourselves to be hamstrung in other critical theaters

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Speaker 11: just because previous administrations have failed to prepare the inventories

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Speaker 11: and stockpiles that we need. Both of those statements can

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Speaker 11: be true, and I think they are the president. Frankly,

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Speaker 11: the people who are making the argument that we don't

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Speaker 11: have sufficient munitions to do what needs to be done

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Speaker 11: in Iran, I think they're missing the bigger picture, which

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Speaker 11: is that doing what needs to be done in Iran will, finally,

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Speaker 11: if the President is successful, as I believe he will be,

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Speaker 11: will free us up to be able to extricate ourselves

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Speaker 11: from the Middle East finally, to eventually do the pivot

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Speaker 11: that Hillary Clinton prom is sixteen years ago. We will

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Speaker 11: not be able to do that unless we can actually

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Speaker 11: extricate ourselves from the Middle East. This action could let

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Speaker 11: us do that, And it also, Hugh, I think reinforces

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Speaker 11: the need to do a full peacetime mobilization, like it's

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Speaker 11: nineteen thirty nine, nineteen forty to build the munitions in

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Speaker 11: an industrial base for an Asia Pacific scenario, now long

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Speaker 11: before it's actually needed.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned success in this mission. How do you define

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Speaker 1: that outlex.

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Speaker 11: I think the President has three operational metrics that I

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Speaker 11: think are sound, and Frankly, if you listen to General Kaine,

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Speaker 11: it sounds like We're very close to meeting those metrics.

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Speaker 11: So it's destruction of the terrorist proxies, the nuclear program,

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Speaker 11: and the missile program. I think those are three very

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Speaker 11: very important operational metrics that we're tracking. I think the

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Speaker 11: strategic question is, can we do something in a modified

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Speaker 11: form analogous to what happened with Delcy Rodgrie in Venezuela,

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Speaker 11: where you can use the operational success to have impact

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Speaker 11: and influence on the next leadership of Iran such that

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Speaker 11: they will change behavior enough to bias the time to

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Speaker 11: finally stop this twenty five year whack a mole game

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Speaker 11: we play with Iran where we are constantly going back

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Speaker 11: into the Middle East in some form to deal with

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Speaker 11: their malign behavior. We have to have enough of a change.

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Speaker 11: This doesn't mean we have to choose leadership. We doesn't

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Speaker 11: mean we have to choose the government of Iran, but

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Speaker 11: it means we have to have enough influence in suasion

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Speaker 11: over that government so that we can eventually make the

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Speaker 11: full pivot to the Indo Pacific that I think most

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Speaker 11: of us agree eventually has.

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Speaker 7: To be done.

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Speaker 1: Alex greg CEO of American and Global Strategy for Chief

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Speaker 1: of Staff at the National Security Council during the first

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Speaker 1: term at President Trump, thank you for joining me. Don't

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Speaker 1: go anywhere, America. I'm coming right back. I got lots

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Speaker 1: more of the tape, and again I may play again,

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Speaker 1: Chairman a Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Kine. Summary of

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Speaker 1: the metrics. Thus, far more than fifty ships of the

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Speaker 1: Iranian Navy are now at the bottom, and we're not

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Speaker 1: even getting started on the ships. Stay tuned in America.

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Speaker 1: I'm here. I'm joined now by Rich Lowry of National View. Rich,

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Speaker 1: do you think the President or the Republicans are making

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Speaker 1: the case for the battle with Iran in sufficiently moral terms?

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Speaker 1: Not a strategic and technical, but moral terms? Well, not really.

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Speaker 12: I don't think there's been enough of the case made.

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Speaker 10: It would be much better if there's a big case

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Speaker 10: made beforehand instead, In part because they had the target

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Speaker 10: of opportunity hitting the eye toll right at the outset, there.

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Speaker 12: Wasn't much of the case made at all.

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Speaker 10: Right, it was an afterthought in the State of the Union,

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Speaker 10: maybe a passing reference at Many minute ninety or something,

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Speaker 10: in part because they wanted to maintain the.

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Speaker 12: Element of surprise.

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Speaker 10: But I think they've been behind the eight ball in

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Speaker 10: terms of making the case public case for this Hue

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Speaker 10: literally from the beginning.

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Speaker 1: Now, I would like Secretary Ruby to do that because

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Speaker 1: he is a set piece speaker. The president is better

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Speaker 1: in an exchange. By the way, what do you make

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Speaker 1: I asked quit bare this earlier. I've been covering politics

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Speaker 1: for thirty five years. I have never seen a chief

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Speaker 1: executive call this many reporters or accept their call.

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Speaker 10: Have you, No, it's extraordinary, but this has always been.

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Speaker 10: He's just extremely accessible. He wasn't the first term.

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Speaker 12: He has been in the second term. And he'll pretty

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Speaker 12: much call anyone who call him.

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Speaker 10: Went back, who attempts to call him. I had an

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Speaker 10: incident in the first term, or I hadn't talked to him.

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Speaker 10: You know, we weren't huge Trump fans. Obviously that that

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Speaker 10: primary said, there's some after effects of that. And I

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Speaker 10: just called the switchboard one night, the White House switchboard, and.

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Speaker 12: He called me back the next day.

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Speaker 10: And I told Lindsay Graham about this, and Graham said, yeah,

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Speaker 10: he's the most successful person in Washington. And Graham said,

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Speaker 10: when he was having trouble getting Pompeio on the phone,

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Speaker 10: he'd called Trump to call to.

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Speaker 12: Get Pompeio to call him back. So this is just

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Speaker 12: as typical of Hope.

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Speaker 1: Well, Lindsey Graham is actually Centator Cotton very consistent. Lindsay

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Speaker 1: Graham is very consistent. They want to win. Today, Senator

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Speaker 1: Cotton and Senator Cruz held an anti Semitism function in

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Speaker 1: which they invoked your predecessor Bill Buckley as having driven

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Speaker 1: the anti Semites out of the Republican Party in the fifties.

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Speaker 1: They also drove out the Birchers, who were more expansive

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Speaker 1: in their hatreds than just anti Semitism. What do you

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Speaker 1: make of that? I think it's long overdue, and all

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Speaker 1: honor to Jefferson, as Lincoln said, all honor to Cotton

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Speaker 1: and Cruise.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, this is actually a nast review events.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know that that we did.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, that we did this morning in conjunction with the RJC,

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Speaker 10: and they're both excellent.

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Speaker 13: Banks.

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Speaker 10: Centator Banks was there as well and very good. But

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Speaker 10: Cruz just really has this bowen in his teeth.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 10: He's just not going to let it go. He just said,

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Speaker 10: I'm in director world with Tucker Carlson. I think he's

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Speaker 10: corrupting our movement and our party, and I'm not going.

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Speaker 12: To stand for it. So he really came to play

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Speaker 12: this morm Well.

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Speaker 1: Cotton came to play. But Cotton lives by the rule

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Speaker 1: I do, which is, don't give publicity to people who

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Speaker 1: want publicity. And I've done that for twenty five years

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Speaker 1: on this program. And I don't bring up fringe actors,

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Speaker 1: and unfortunately, our anti Semitic influencers to use Tom Cotton's

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Speaker 1: air quotes already get enough clicks. Rich Lowry, how much

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Speaker 1: of a problem do you think it is really in

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Speaker 1: the Republican Party, because I don't think it's really a

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Speaker 1: problem in the Republican Party.

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Speaker 12: Well, it depends on how you define the Republican Party.

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Speaker 10: Are there senators and members of Congress who are anti

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Speaker 10: Semites openly or secretly? No?

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Speaker 1: Oh wait, but there are three? There are three?

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Speaker 10: Well, okay, all right, But is it a huge problem

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Speaker 10: among elected officials. No, but I think they Young Republicans,

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Speaker 10: especially young males, are increasingly slay this way. And Manhattan

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Speaker 10: Institute study last December and the last year indicated this

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Speaker 10: is the case. You hear about it anecdotally all the

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Speaker 10: time I went to the University of Virginia.

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Speaker 12: I was just talking to a friend the other day.

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Speaker 10: His daughter goes to UVA and she came to him

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Speaker 10: recently and said, I'm not going to a college Republican

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Speaker 10: meeting ever again.

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Speaker 12: He's like, why, you know, college republicanly uba? What could

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Speaker 12: go wrong?

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Speaker 10: To forget what issue was being discussed at a meeting?

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Speaker 10: But the guys in front of her muttering, Oh, it's

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Speaker 10: a jewice, It's a juiceful, and I think it is.

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Speaker 10: It is more prevalent than you'd like among young guys.

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Speaker 1: That alarms me. I've been teaching Launston's at Chaman University

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Speaker 1: for twenty five years and thirty years. Actually I started

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Speaker 1: teaching before I started doing the National Show. I started

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Speaker 1: the National Show in two thousand. I started teaching in

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Speaker 1: ninety five. And I've never met a conservative who's any

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Speaker 1: nice I might in the classroom, not once. So I'm

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Speaker 1: alarmed because VA is high end. Those are smart kids.

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Speaker 1: What do you think the university had to do about that? Well?

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Speaker 12: I don't.

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Speaker 10: I don't think that it's the university's purviewed to, you know,

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Speaker 10: I don't. They're not teaching anti Semitic content as far

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Speaker 10: as as far as I know, and they're not, you know,

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Speaker 10: they're not Columbia. They're they're left at center. I think

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Speaker 10: I think this is being done by conservative right wing influencers.

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Speaker 1: You know, I am going to suggest that if I

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Speaker 1: found it on Chapman University, and I have not, I

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Speaker 1: would urge everyone there to hold the rally or not

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Speaker 1: the rally. The event you did today, how many people

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Speaker 1: spoke today, how many people came, and what was the

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Speaker 1: coverage of it.

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Speaker 10: It was a good crowd we did at the Museum

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Speaker 10: of the Bible, A couple hundred people there. It was

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Speaker 10: just a morning event or about from nine am to

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Speaker 10: one pm, but packed with the.

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Speaker 12: Great great speakers. Three three.

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Speaker 10: I mentioned Leo Parrell, others, David Azerat, they're familiar with him.

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Speaker 10: He's a Mitsdale, a little more new right than we are,

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Speaker 10: but brilliant based case. He's making the base case for

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Speaker 10: Israel in a really compelling way.

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Speaker 1: Well, the base case for Israel is that the most

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Speaker 1: powerful ally we have in the world, that's a nuclear

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Speaker 1: power and not afraid to project force. Got nothing to

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Speaker 1: do with her being Jewish. Tell me Rich when you

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Speaker 1: do the editors next, will you be talking about this,

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Speaker 1: because I would love to hear more about this event.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, we just recorded. We did not talk much about this.

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Speaker 10: I mentioned it, but we're focused to first and foremost

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Speaker 10: on ran For understandable reasons.

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Speaker 1: This is to you.

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Speaker 12: You know, it's a different one for Trump.

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Speaker 10: Almost everything else he's done has been a one off

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Speaker 10: anti its campaign a little different, but still just an

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Speaker 10: air campaign against guerrilla force.

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Speaker 12: This is a much more difficult challenge. Is important that

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Speaker 12: he prevailed.

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Speaker 1: And last question, Rich, I want more Republicans to talk

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Speaker 1: in terms of winning a victory.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what victory looks like, whether the regime

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Speaker 1: has to collapse or whether they just have to cry

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Speaker 1: uncle or go delsy and then I want cubit of fault.

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Speaker 1: But I think they had to talk about winning and

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Speaker 1: changing the world because Trump is changing the world. Has

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Speaker 1: anyone besides Cotton dead Fisher did it on the show today?

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Speaker 1: Anyone else talk about that? We got a minute.

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Speaker 12: No, not as much as they should. I think Walter

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Speaker 12: Russell made a good case in the Journald this morning.

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Speaker 10: That victory is basically, can you open the straits before

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Speaker 10: moves even when the regime is still hostile, showing that

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Speaker 10: they don't have control of it, or are they backing

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Speaker 10: you off because.

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Speaker 12: You can't reopen it. I think that's a key indicator.

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Speaker 1: Well said as always Rich Lowry, host of the Editors

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Speaker 1: podcast for National Review, editor in chief of National Review,

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Speaker 1: and the host of The McCarthy Report. Don't forget that

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Speaker 1: because it's always entertaining, except for the New York baseball

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Speaker 1: bias that is in evidence and soon will be overwhelming

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Speaker 1: like kudzuu as the season gets close to the beginning.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Rich. Don't go an here where America. I'll

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Speaker 1: be right back on the uq AT show. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: in America. Have Bethany Mandel is the co founder of

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Speaker 1: the Wars, which you can find at the mom Wars

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Speaker 1: dot substat dot com, co author of Stolen Youth and

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Speaker 1: It's better to be Lucky than Smart. In the last hour,

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Speaker 1: I played Senator Cotton and Senator Cruz talking about anti

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Speaker 1: Semitism among quote influencers on the right. Then Rich Lowry

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Speaker 1: in the last segment, explained to me that National Review

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Speaker 1: had both put on this great, big show at the

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Speaker 1: Museum of the Bible today about anti Semotism on the

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Speaker 1: so called influencers of the right segment. And then Bethany

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Speaker 1: Mandel shows up It was supposed to be on yesterday,

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Speaker 1: but I had to come on today because of me. Bethany,

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Speaker 1: you were there today, tell us about it.

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Speaker 8: I was there, That's why I'm wearing makeup and address.

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Speaker 8: It all worked out for the best.

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Speaker 7: It was.

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Speaker 8: It was a really incredible event. I was really impressed

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Speaker 8: with NR for doing it. The Lieutenant Governor of Texas

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Speaker 8: spoke and I'm forgetting his name Begaret on Good Morning Trick,

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Speaker 8: Thank you.

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Speaker 7: I was.

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Speaker 8: I was on the radio with Larry O'Connor this morning

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Speaker 8: at five and sorry, well little Rundown fumes today and

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Speaker 8: he explained sort of the connection with Buckley standing athwart

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Speaker 8: history and saying stop when it came to anti Semitism

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Speaker 8: in his day, and it felt like that moment today

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Speaker 8: with NR.

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Speaker 4: It was really well timed.

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Speaker 8: It was a beautiful event, and I thought everyone should

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Speaker 8: go listen to Ted Cruz's entire speech. There was a

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Speaker 8: couple of funny parts in there that you're going to

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Speaker 8: see a lot of clips, but it's really worth sitting

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Speaker 8: down and spending the fifteen twenty minutes on listening the

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Speaker 8: whole speech because it was incredible and it was.

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Speaker 4: A really important, pivotal moment.

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Speaker 1: I think, Bethany, you and I were at the rally

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Speaker 1: for Israel in the aftermath of ten seven, when hundreds

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Speaker 1: of thousands of people from all over the United States

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Speaker 1: went to the mall, and since that time Israel has

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Speaker 1: been taking a pounding online. But I never confused the

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Speaker 1: online world with the real world. I don't believe it

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Speaker 1: is a problem among elected Republicans anti Semitism, do you.

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Speaker 8: I don't think it's a problem among elected Republicans. I

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Speaker 8: do think it's a problem among Republicans writ large, including

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Speaker 8: the staff in a lot of these offices, including the

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Speaker 8: interns at a lot of these offices. The kerfuffle that

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Speaker 8: happened at Heritage didn't come out of nowhere.

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Speaker 4: I think that. I mean Cruz.

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Speaker 8: I think it was Cruz said, you know, this is

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Speaker 8: a problem in Hill offices, with interns, you name it.

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Speaker 8: This is not just an online problem. If you look

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Speaker 8: at polling data about how young evangelicals feel about Israel,

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Speaker 8: it's as bad as black liberals.

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Speaker 1: You know, that is very disconcerting. But I would put

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Speaker 1: this word out to the people who run internships on

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Speaker 1: the Hill, like I have an intern here on The

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Speaker 1: hu Huitt Show and I always have. I've got probably

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Speaker 1: how many interns that we had Duyne over the course

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Speaker 1: of twenty five years, seventy five. If someone came in

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Speaker 1: here and was anti Israel, anti Zionists, and certainly anti Smic,

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Speaker 1: they would not be here for the next day. They'd

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Speaker 1: be fired, and it would be with reason, because it's irrational,

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Speaker 1: and I can't have irrational people. Do you think that

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Speaker 1: word is out?

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Speaker 8: No, I mean I think I don't think that there

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Speaker 8: should be a litmus test for people being you know,

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Speaker 8: pro Israel or whatever. But the problem for anti Semitism,

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Speaker 8: and and a lot of people hide their anti Semitism

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Speaker 8: with oh, I'm just an anti Zionist, is that they're stupid.

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Speaker 8: And a lot of people are stupid, especially as you

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Speaker 8: go younger and younger, and a lot of them are uneducated,

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Speaker 8: not just stupid, but also uneducated about the tenets of

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Speaker 8: their faith. And so you see a lot of the

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Speaker 8: trad bros who proclaim that they're Catholic. This is Tucker

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Speaker 8: Carlson's latest guest, the Carrie, the woman from the Sorry

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Speaker 8: like a Catholic?

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Speaker 1: Can we be as a Roman Catholic? Don't no Catholic?

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Speaker 1: But she she calls herself a Catholic, but then she

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Speaker 1: doesn't know anything about John Paul the Second or Benedict.

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Speaker 1: Even Francis, who was bad on everything, got this sort

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Speaker 1: of right.

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Speaker 8: She's brand new, she's brand new, and she doesn't understand

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Speaker 8: anything about Catholicism.

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Speaker 4: My mother was Catholic. I probably understand more about Catholicism

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Speaker 4: than she does. Right, But this is this is the problem.

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Speaker 8: These are people that walk around saying Christ is King,

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Speaker 8: but don't understand anything that anything that you you just

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Speaker 8: spent thirty seconds talking about it. It's all Chinese to them.

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Speaker 8: And so this is a real problem of people just

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Speaker 8: not understanding what do we believe as conservatives, what do

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Speaker 8: they believe as Catholics, And that ignorance is manifesting in

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Speaker 8: their anti Semitism.

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Speaker 1: And I will I will add to this for my

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Speaker 1: Catholic listener, Cardinal Koopich, if you're listening, I'm online right

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Speaker 1: now in Chicago, if you're listening, take it back. You

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Speaker 1: don't know anything about just war doctrine. I doubt you've

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Speaker 1: ever studied it. You may have picked up Augustine once

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Speaker 1: and put it right back down. But he's saying this

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Speaker 1: is not a just war and in fact that it's

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Speaker 1: classic Augustinian just war doctrine. But we got a cardinal

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Speaker 1: in Chicago who's just like an old seventies liberal hippie

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Speaker 1: my age, and it didn't get it. They're ignorant. It

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Speaker 1: really does upset me when people holding themselves out as

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Speaker 1: authorities on in church doctrine don't even know church doctrine.

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Speaker 1: And coming out of a Catholic family, you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about. In the speaker's lineup today, you're at

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Speaker 1: the Museum of the Bible. By the way, can we

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Speaker 1: give a shout out to the MOB for hosting.

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Speaker 4: That one percent?

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Speaker 8: I am a paid member. This is not a plug

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Speaker 8: that I'm not an influencer for them. I'm a paid

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Speaker 8: member because I wanted to go to their play of

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Speaker 8: Joseph and it was fifteen percent off if you were

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Speaker 8: a member, and so I finally bit the bullet and joined.

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Speaker 8: We've been I don't know, probably half a dozen times.

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Speaker 8: It is spectacular and speaking specifically to the Jews, it

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Speaker 8: is even though it's built by Evangelical Christians. I know

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Speaker 8: the woman that helped supply all of the Jewish artifacts,

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Speaker 8: she is amazing. She works with passages on Christian tours

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Speaker 8: to Israel. But she's Jewish.

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Speaker 4: Her name is Rifka. Amazing. I could not speak more

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Speaker 4: highly of the Museum of the Bible.

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Speaker 1: I can speak about the Greens because I know the Greens,

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Speaker 1: and both the Green Senior and the Greens Junior, who

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Speaker 1: poured all their fortune into the mob and they're fabulous people.

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Speaker 1: And they've had to return some artifacts whenever some artifacts

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Speaker 1: have been determined to have been inappropriately acquired, and they

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Speaker 1: do so willingly and joyously. But it's a great museum.

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Speaker 1: It's near the mall, but a lot of people won't

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Speaker 1: find it, and then it'll be a little bit stunned.

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Speaker 1: Because the Rembrandt room over at the National Portrait Gallery

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Speaker 1: is free, I mean the National Gallery of Art. You know,

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Speaker 1: you know in there and sit among the rem Brands

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Speaker 1: for free. And Dan Da Vinci MLB is not free.

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Speaker 1: But you're saying, if you live in the area, join

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Speaker 8: They have great homeschool events too. That's another reason we joined.

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Speaker 8: And they also I'm this is actually a road trip

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Speaker 8: the Arc Encounter in Kentucky where they've built a life

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Speaker 8: size Noah's Arc and we are going to go next year.

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Speaker 1: Good for you. Don't don't miss Dollywood. Let me go

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Speaker 1: back to the war. How do your friends in Israel

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Speaker 1: feel it's going.

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Speaker 4: I think that they feel like it's going well.

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Speaker 8: The exhaustion is an otherworldly I was actually going to

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Speaker 8: send you an Instagram video that one of my friends

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Speaker 8: made of her making dinner, and she planned on making fajitas.

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Speaker 8: That way she could stop and start if she had

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Speaker 8: to run to the into the shelter. Her kids have

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Speaker 8: been home for ten days straight and they don't want

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Speaker 8: to go outside in case there's a siren and they

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Speaker 8: have to run.

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Speaker 4: It's exhausting. It's really, really deeply exhausting.

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Speaker 1: Is she on optimist that it will be over soon

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Speaker 1: in terms of the sirens?

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Speaker 8: I don't think anyone is, honestly, And I also wanted

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Speaker 1: Oh oh, I have to go and listen. I hope

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Speaker 1: She's a fine reporter. How long has she been doing this?

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Speaker 4: Yes, she's fantastic. I'm probably twenty years Yeah.

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Speaker 1: She is a very very fine reporter and I turned

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Speaker 1: You don't have to send me your contact information so

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Speaker 1: I can have her on so. Bethany last question we

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Speaker 1: got less than a minute. Do you think President Trump

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Speaker 1: has been clear enough in deciding in telegraphing what victory

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Speaker 1: looks like.

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Speaker 8: I am not super keen on criticizing him, but no,

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Speaker 8: I don't. I feel like we've heard a lot of

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Speaker 8: that metric is. I think that they've achieved something really

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Speaker 8: incredible with real minimal losses on the Americans part. And

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Speaker 8: that being said, I wonder what the endgame is here,

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Speaker 1: That it should be the incapacitation of the regime worth

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Speaker 1: the lives of at least seven Americans one hundred and

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Speaker 1: The cost must beating quots of the game, and the

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Speaker 1: What does President Trump mean? I'm calling on our telepath

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Speaker 5: What does he mean?

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Speaker 1: Jane? Last night the war's almost over. Then last night

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Speaker 1: we got a long way to go? And then this

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Speaker 1: morning Peteg says that weeks what's going on here?

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Speaker 7: What bad messaging? You just not consistent messaging.

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Speaker 13: When he says the war's almost over, I don't know

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00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 13: exactly what he means because there still is the government in.

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Speaker 7: Place and the bad guys.

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Speaker 13: So then, you know, I'll trust access to say we

1014
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Speaker 13: got a long way to go, because that prepares people

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Speaker 13: for the ineditable.

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Speaker 7: That prepares people for long sustained campaigns.

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Speaker 13: I mean, do you think they've been hammering them now,

1018
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 13: day and night for how long and how much can

1019
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Speaker 13: they have left?

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Speaker 7: Well, you know plenty. It's a matter of launchers.

1021
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 13: As you read today that they just nailed a launcher

1022
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Speaker 13: and it seemed to be an odd thing to note

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Speaker 13: and hawk because we were told that a lot of

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Speaker 13: the launching were put out of business early on.

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Speaker 7: I mean, so consistent messaging would be better.

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Speaker 13: But I'm less concerned about that than more concerned about

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Speaker 13: the efficacy of the entire operation.

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Speaker 7: Aren't you?

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Speaker 1: And I'm with you on that. Now, what I would

1030
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Speaker 1: really love to see is the Republicans put their arms

1031
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 1: around winning. Have they done that?

1032
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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, No, I don't think so, don't.

1034
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Speaker 13: I haven't gotten a full throated pushed back to what

1035
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Speaker 13: the Democrats are saying.

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Speaker 7: I did enjoy Bill Maher pointing out.

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Speaker 13: To Camp number who was Cory book, Adam Schiff reading

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Speaker 13: Adam Shif read it right, a line about the statements

1039
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Speaker 13: of the war powers and all the rest of it,

1040
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Speaker 13: and Shift said it was just totally vague. Totally vague

1041
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 13: is what Obama said. We all know that the presidents

1042
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Speaker 13: claim these powers for themselves, and the war powers is

1043
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 13: dodgy and the rest of it. But yes, I would

1044
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Speaker 13: like to see a full throated pushback because I don't

1045
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Speaker 13: think the anti.

1046
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Speaker 7: War message is getting traction at this point.

1047
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 13: I think the only people who are really spun up

1048
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Speaker 13: about it are the ones who'd be inclined to be spun.

1049
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Speaker 7: Up about it anyway.

1050
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Speaker 13: But yes, better messaging would be great, but again, you know,

1051
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 13: messaging is one thing, the actual operation.

1052
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Speaker 7: Is the other.

1053
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and let's put the war to one side, because

1054
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: now you know are experts on what's going on. But

1055
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Speaker 1: I think we know how to communicate the Republicans.

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Speaker 7: Speak for yourself.

1057
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Speaker 1: I know, I know we're actually we played risk. No,

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Speaker 1: I really do think Republicans are going to get stuck

1059
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Speaker 1: with the war, whether or not they wanted the war.

1060
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Speaker 1: So they should put their arms around the war and

1061
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:34,439
Speaker 1: say we want Iran to be free, and it would

1062
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Speaker 1: be a good thing. It would be a great thing

1063
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Speaker 1: for the world if Iran was free. How hard is

1064
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Speaker 1: it to say that it isn't.

1065
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Speaker 7: But it's not just it would be a great thing.

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Speaker 7: It will be a great thing.

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Speaker 13: That's the thing, not say, well, you know, in some

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Speaker 13: ideal world we'd like ironic it will be free.

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Speaker 5: To go forward to the.

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Speaker 7: Positive messages to what this is all about.

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Speaker 13: But again, how many times have we been told that

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Speaker 13: we don't want forever wars, want nation building and all

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Speaker 13: the rest of it. Hard to talk about the endpoint

1074
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Speaker 13: of this, which is Iran welcomed back into the international

1075
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Speaker 13: community without sounding as if you're nation building, without sounding

1076
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Speaker 13: as if it's the same regime change thing we've heard before.

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Speaker 13: And unfortunately in this part it's true. We do want

1078
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Speaker 13: regime change. We may have to do some nation building

1079
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Speaker 13: in the sense that you know, arrange it. I think

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Speaker 13: Trump said, not a shot. No, he hasn't been there.

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Speaker 13: It's got to be somebody from the inside. I mean

1082
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Speaker 13: that indicates the sort of thinking and strategy about what

1083
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 13: happens after we hope the mole regime collapses. But yes,

1084
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Speaker 13: get around it, embrace it as a thing that America

1085
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Speaker 13: does and shows two things, one the power of the

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Speaker 13: American military and two the fact that we can be

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Speaker 13: a force for good in this country, which according to

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Speaker 13: a survey of the last week, something like eighty four

1089
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Speaker 13: percent of Republicans believe that the US is a force

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Speaker 13: for good. Is something like, I don't know, it's like

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Speaker 13: thirty six percent of Democrats believe to.

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Speaker 5: So so make that out there.

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Speaker 7: Put that out there.

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Speaker 13: People are amazed by what they've seen, but eventually they

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00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:02,240
Speaker 13: get tired of air footage of tomahawks going into windows

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Speaker 13: and want something more behind this.

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Speaker 1: We want the people back out in the streets, not

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Speaker 1: getting killed this time. Now I want to go to

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Speaker 1: next week. I want to anticipate a week from now.

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00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: Cuba is out of everything. They're more out of everything

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Speaker 1: than I am. After the White's been gone for two weeks.

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Speaker 1: I got nothing in here in the house if there's

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Speaker 1: because I don't shot. Cubans can't shop. There's nothing there.

1104
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Speaker 1: So we're going to get demands made on America to

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00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: feed Cuba. I think we will feed Cuba, but I

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00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: don't think we out of fuel Cuba. What do you think?

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00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 13: Well, are you saying that Mexico hasn't been supplying you

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Speaker 13: with food when your wife was up for a fortnight

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00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 13: notes tisk, I think Mexican. I think Mexican supplies to

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Speaker 13: Cuba have been curtailed.

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00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 7: And what I've heard there are intimations that think that

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Speaker 7: the US.

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Speaker 13: Administration will help Cuba through this difficult patch, which is

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Speaker 13: interesting because instead of trying to make it brittle and

1115
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 13: crack and fall and then you have chaos, it's it's

1116
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 13: is they're attempting to manage a leverage bio.

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Speaker 7: To ease Yes, should we do that?

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Speaker 13: I think we should because if it's all contingent when

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Speaker 13: the end of the cast for a regime and the

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Speaker 13: downfall of communism, because then we will have shown three

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00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 13: different ways in which the new doctrine works. One the

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00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 13: guys go in in the middle of the night with

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Speaker 13: supersonic special weapons and turn everybody into jelly and take

1124
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Speaker 13: the head of the state and put him in another

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Speaker 13: country Venezuela. Two overwhelming show of force Shakana and Iran.

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Speaker 13: And three let's all sit down to the table and

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Speaker 13: talk about how you're going to be out of power

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Speaker 13: in a month or so. So yeah, I mean, those

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Speaker 13: are three different approaches to instability and troublesome regimes.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, they here the name Diaz, Carnal or Carnal Diaz,

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Speaker 1: I can't remember. He's just another he's not named Castro.

1132
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Speaker 1: But there's still Rangel still alive. I don't know if

1133
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Speaker 1: he's right combinant. Do we need to escort him off

1134
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 1: the island, along with maybe thirty thousand of their ultra

1135
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Speaker 1: security people to whomever will take them.

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Speaker 13: Yes, I would like to do it in two ways.

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Speaker 13: One question about the fuel. I don't know if we

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Speaker 13: give them fuel, but food is a good thing.

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Speaker 7: To do.

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Speaker 13: But when it comes to getting them off, I would

1141
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Speaker 13: not put them on a seven forty seven and ship

1142
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 13: them over here. I would actually just make sure that

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00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 13: they got to the coast of Cuba and were required

1144
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Speaker 13: to leave by rickety boats. That would be That would

1145
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 13: be poetic justice. What's more, not just wicked rickety boats

1146
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 13: or fifty seven mercury. Reason that they've somehow managed to float,

1147
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 13: but know that they will be met on the other

1148
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 13: side in Florida by the friends and the families of

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Speaker 13: everybody who is dispossessed by the cast or magime.

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Speaker 7: Ideally, that's what I'd like to see happened.

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Speaker 1: Now. The three countries Nzuela, let Iran in Cuba, you know,

1152
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Speaker 1: are Ukrainian, you know the big We have one minute.

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Speaker 1: Which country will recover quick ast if it's freed?

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Speaker 7: Interesting?

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Speaker 13: I think I won want to say Ukraine because they've

1156
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Speaker 13: got a lot of stuff that people want, which surprises people.

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Speaker 7: It's like what they got just grain, they you know,

1158
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Speaker 7: they got lots of stuff.

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Speaker 13: They have neon, they have rare earth and the rest

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Speaker 13: of it, and you great as a smart capable place

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Speaker 13: that I think could bounce back. And they've been free

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Speaker 13: for a while. Venezuela has been, like Cuba has been,

1163
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 13: has been slumping under the burden of bad governments for

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Speaker 13: a long time, so it may be a while to

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Speaker 13: shake that out of the system.

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Speaker 7: Iran.

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Speaker 5: Who knows.

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Speaker 7: That's the big question, isn't it, And we're going to

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Speaker 7: find out.

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Speaker 1: I think it's going to be Cuba only because of

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Speaker 1: the proximity two and the incredible energy and well made

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Speaker 1: and accumulated in the United States going back into Cuba

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Speaker 1: big time. But lit'll see, and we'll check in with

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Speaker 1: Lilacs otherwise noted Cruscan next week. Follow him at Change

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