1 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: I'm Josh Hammer and this is the Josh Hammer Show. 2 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: It's transgender argument day at the United States Supreme Court. 3 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Plenty of other massive news to get to. Some huge, 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: huge cultural decisions will be decided by the nine justices 5 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: based on how this or argument in today's hearing went. 6 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: But the big story that the international community and most 7 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: Americans are really fixated that are paying attention to right 8 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: now and how can we not address it at the 9 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: top of the show, that is the roiling situation in Iran. 10 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: So it is reaching rapidly something of a boiling point. 11 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: Earlier today, Donald Trump getting in briefed with his latest 12 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: assessment as to what the possible options are as to 13 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 1: what to do at this particular time when it comes 14 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: to the horrific regime crackdown, regime crackdown on the innocent 15 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: civilians who are rising up, who are risking their lives, 16 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: their fortune, and their sacred honor. Yes, that is the 17 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: analogy draw here. They are risking it much as the 18 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: patriots of seventeen seventy six risk it in order to 19 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: try to topple this terrible regime. As of yesterday, we 20 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: were discussing on the show that the inside the Inside 21 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: Baseball scoop that I heard from various sources was potentially 22 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: upwards of two thousand Iranian civilians who have been slaughtered. 23 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: I'm still hearing it's in the thousands. For what it's worth, 24 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: I'm now hearing from some folks over at CBS News. 25 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: It's very, very difficult to get precise numbers on this stuff, 26 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: and partially because of the Internet blackout parts, because the 27 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: foam blackout parts are because this part of the world 28 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: is just infamously difficult to get accurate numbers, see for instance, 29 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: the Gaza Ministry of Health, which is run by Hamas. 30 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: But for whatever it's worth, folks over at CBS and 31 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: least those who I've been in touch with are are 32 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: estimating potentially potentially as many as twenty thousand. Potentially take 33 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: take them with a grain of salt, Okay, a big 34 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: grin of sault, potentially, but we could be looking at 35 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: upwards of twenty thousand innocent to runians. Billions mowed down 36 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: by this regime. Again, all sorts of anecdotal stuff. Images 37 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: popping up over social media of just body bags upon 38 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: body bags upon body bags at the hospital, at the Morgue. 39 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 1: It's a horrible, horrible situation. Well over million millions now 40 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: of Iranians who have been taken to the streets in 41 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: protests of this regime. This particular protest, as discussed previously 42 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: on this show, have happened because of the plumbing real 43 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: of the Iranian currency, because of food scarcity, of the droughts. 44 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: That people just want the regime to focus on themselves 45 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 1: as opposed to funding all of their terrorist proxies and 46 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: all of the sheited insuluments, propaganda overseas and so forth. 47 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: By the way, as an aside, I have to say, 48 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: putting on my pop culture lens here just for a 49 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: secondifem I actually just started season three of Tehran, which 50 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: is the show on Apple TV, strongly encouraged at the 51 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: timing really could not be more incredible. But we just 52 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: started that in season three is off to a good start. 53 00:02:58,560 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: So I was watching that last night. It's like, oh 54 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: my god, this is really happening in real life. So 55 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: that is million dollar question though, is is it happening 56 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: in real life? Because we see now what's going on 57 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: over in Iran, and it's it's bad. But where's auth 58 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: these going to go from here? Moreover, is the Trump 59 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: administration speaking clearly and with one voice on this issue. 60 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: This has been one of the most difficult, thorniest evergreen 61 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: topics whenever various issues for the Trump ministration come up, 62 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,679 Speaker 1: but perhaps especially those pertending to foreign policy. Does the 63 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: administration actually speak with one voice? Does Donald Trump speak 64 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: on behalf of everyone? From Marc Rubio on the more 65 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: hawkish end of the spectrum, Pete Hegseth, who is perhaps 66 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: somewhere in the middle, all the way over to his 67 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: own Vice President Jade Vance and the d and I, 68 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: Tulca Gabber and others who have more isolation sympathies. It's 69 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: pretty well known that there's a lot disagreements within the 70 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: White House, within the administration when it comes to all 71 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: of these issues. So it's been somewhat of the talk 72 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: of the town now for a few days that Trump's 73 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: instincts are indeed to dramatically escalate in in bombing military 74 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: fashion against the Iranian regime. And he is now the leading, 75 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: one of the leading proponents, if you are paying attention 76 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: to the tea leaves, he's one of the leading proponents 77 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: of increasingly aggressive military action to try to topple this regime. 78 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: On the other hand, you have the Vice President JD. Vance, 79 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: who is leading the alternative caucus, who is leading the 80 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: caucus of those who are trying now to preach diplomacy 81 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: and various other means for what it's worth, Donald Trump 82 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: not exactly interested in diplomacy. Donald Trump putting out on 83 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: truth social this morning quote Irode and patriots keep protesting, 84 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: take over your institutions. Save the names of the killers 85 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: and abusers. They will pay a big price. I have 86 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: canceled all meetings with the Roddian officials until the senseless 87 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: killing of protesters stops. Help is on its way migas 88 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: in make Iran great again. So he's canceled all meetings 89 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: with officials until the killing stops. So it seems to 90 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: me the Vance led push for diplomacy, whatever the merits 91 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,679 Speaker 1: of that of that may or may not be, simply 92 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: are at this point falling on deaf years for President Trump, 93 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: and by the way, that's his own entire can of worms. 94 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: Is what is the current nature of the president vice 95 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: president relationship. Recalled that Vice President Vance was actually not 96 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: there at mar Lago during the Maduro operation. We saw 97 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: all these images of Donald Trump flanked by people like 98 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 1: Marco Rubiel. Well, where is the vice president? Well, his 99 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: office put out a statement explaining why he was not there. 100 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: They said that it was a possible security concern and 101 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 1: op SEC concern, operational security. I'm not entirely sure that 102 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: makes a whole lot of sense to make, to be 103 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: honest with you, there's a lot of problement people there. 104 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: They all had their own large motor cads. But is 105 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: this another issue from Venezuela and now to Iran where 106 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: there is this emerging delta, there's this emerging gap between 107 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: President Trump and Vice President Vance. I actually, you know, 108 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: putting on our domestic politics had for a minute here, 109 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: I was just looking at an article a pull from 110 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: rass Mussen ras Musen, which is one of the more 111 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: conservative Republican leading major poulters out there. Ras Muson had 112 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: a big piece just yesterday talking about how jad Vance's 113 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: favorability numbers have been plumbing recently. So is this going 114 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,119 Speaker 1: to help his recovery where he's yet again being seen, 115 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: perhaps probably accurately, seen as being on the other side 116 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: of President Tromp on a major foreign policy issue. I 117 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: have to suspect that is not going to help JD. 118 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: Vans when it comes to twenty twenty eight, when it 119 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: comes potentially to Donald Trump's endorsement. Frankly of Jdvan's come 120 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight, But we will cross that bridge when 121 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 1: it gets to it. For now, the possible escalation of 122 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: military activities from the United States there looks at this 123 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: point to be pretty much imminence. B fifty two bombers 124 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: moving all the way into the Eastern Mediterranean, a lot 125 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: of assets moving into places like Turkey. It seems like 126 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: this thing is really going to potentially hit the fan asap. Now, 127 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: you don't have to necessarily go in guns fully blazing. 128 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: There are alternatives to There are things such as cyber 129 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 1: attacks and things of that nature. But even if this 130 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: thing does really militarily escalade and there start being lots 131 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: of bombs and fireworks and all of that, it's important 132 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: to note a couple of things. One is that no 133 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: one here is talking about boots on the ground. I mean, 134 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: how many times do we hear this slogan of boots 135 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: on the ground. It's becomes something of a line that 136 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: a lot of the Tucker Curlson Ron Paul types push 137 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: to try to persuade people not to take any military 138 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: action whatsoever. But it's obviously a false choice because there's 139 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: approximately a million or two million different things that can 140 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: happen between boots on the ground and between it doing 141 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: absolutely nothing. Last I checked, there is virtually no one. 142 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: I'm not even sure if Lindsey Graham himself is pushing 143 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: for literal boots on the ground, the literal one hundred 144 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: first airborne parachuting into Tehran to topple the Iyatola. No, 145 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: that's not what's happening. What is happening is that the 146 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: Iranian people, who have been brutally, brutally repressed for four 147 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: and a half decades from the world's number one state 148 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: sponsor of jihad, are risky at all to go to 149 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: the streets to fight back against this regime. That's what's happening. 150 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 2: You know. 151 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: I saw some folks on social media earlier today who 152 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: were promoting this clip of Charlie Kirk before he was 153 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: trying to be assassinated. This was back in June, during 154 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: the whole debate over whether to Bambaran's nuclear sytes, and 155 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: this clip that I saw being circulated was Charlie Kirk 156 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: saying beware of taking out the Ayatola, Well, guess what 157 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: was not happening back then? The Iranian people were not uprising. 158 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: Charlie Stance on this for what it's worth, Charlie Stance 159 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: was very clear. He said that it's worth supporting the 160 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: Iranian people if slash, when they rise up against this regime. 161 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: What's not necessarily worth doing is going in guns fully blazing, 162 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: absent the running people's support. Totally separate conversation for what it's worth, 163 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: if Donald Trump does decide to significantly increase the military 164 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: threat in the United States visa vise the iotolin As 165 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: moll as they're in, or it looks like he can 166 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: count on at least some byparises a poorer at least some, 167 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: which is fascinating. For instance, here was John Fetterman and 168 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania speaking on CNN. 169 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 3: Sure, absolutely, and now if it continues to make more sense. Absolutely. 170 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 3: I think I was the only Democrat that fully supported 171 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 3: our strike of their Irenian nuclear facilities last year, and 172 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 3: now by then, without those kinds of strikes, Iran could 173 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,719 Speaker 3: have acquired a nuclear bomb. I think I hope we 174 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 3: can all agree that Iran should have never acquired a 175 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 3: nuclear bomb. And Iran is one of the world's top 176 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 3: terrorist unrid and now you have that poisonous regime now 177 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 3: in spiral. So why wouldn't we want to support that 178 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 3: and those brave protesters they've killed probably more than six 179 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 3: hundred by now. So now why would we want to 180 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 3: have the kinds of targeted, kinds of action that could 181 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 3: break that regime? 182 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: Dal Trump has a unique opportunity to go down here 183 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: in the history books. Already, in one fell swoop, in 184 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: one astonishing breath taking operation in Caracas, he has extracted 185 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: the illegitimate narco terrorist leader of Venezuela, Nicholas Maduro. Could 186 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: he also be the president who presides over the end 187 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: of four and a half plus decades of tyranny in 188 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: Iran and by extension, frankly, for the whole world. Given 189 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: how much jihad across the entire world that regime has sewed, 190 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: how much American blood, how much European blood, how much 191 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: Christian bloo Jewish blood, how much blood is on this 192 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: theocratic isthmus regime's hands. It's not necessarily the job of 193 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: the United States to go in there, with the aircraft 194 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: carriers and the overwhelming ground, air and sea power. That's 195 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: not what's being floated right now. What is being floated 196 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 1: is support of the Iranian people. The details that will 197 00:10:59,960 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: be defined by the president. But make no mistake about it, 198 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 1: donald Trump's red line has been crossed. And yesterday's show 199 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: we explained why we're not necessarily the biggest fans of 200 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: red lines. I prefer the more foreign policy be done 201 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: in secretive, clandestine fashion. Why give the enemy and he 202 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: heads up, what's whatever, it's what your next move might 203 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: actually be. But he said a redline. He said, if 204 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: the regime starts massacring dissidents, he will take action. Over 205 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: the weekend. On Sunday, it was reported that Donald Trump 206 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: was emitting that perhaps his redline has been crossed. Here 207 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: on Tuesday, we can now definitively say it has been crossed, 208 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: stomped on, and torn to shreds. It's in your court, 209 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: mister president, exactly where you take it from here. But 210 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: you have a unique opportunity to go down history for 211 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: providing moral sooker. And yes, military support is necessary to 212 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: the running people. We'll be right back. I'm Josh Hammer 213 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: and welcome back very much. Monitoring situation in Iraan. But 214 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: as mentioned at the beginning, of our show. There's other 215 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 1: stuff going on as well. One of the largest cases 216 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: is actually technically two consolidated cases. One of the largest 217 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: oral argument days at the Usupreme Court occurred earlier today. 218 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: I listened to large swaths of the oral argument. So 219 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: these are two technically combined cases. One is out of 220 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: the states of Idaho. One is out of the state 221 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: of West Virginia. The state out of Idaho is Little 222 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: versus Hcock's West Virginia, and is West Virginia versus BPJ. 223 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: They are basically dealing with the same fat pattern, which 224 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: is whether or not a statute a law in Idaho 225 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: or West Virginia that bans that bans biological males from 226 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: competing against biological females when it comes to high school 227 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: athletic competition, Whether or not these laws are constitutionally principal, 228 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 1: perhaps if there's a fourteen mement angle, or perhaps whether 229 00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: they run a foul of Title nine. Title nine being 230 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: the amendments to the Civil Rights Act, which was passed 231 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy two that prohibits set discrimination in all 232 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: educational programs and for all those universities institutions that receive 233 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: federal funding. More generally. So, as I mentioned, I watched 234 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: and listen to a lot of this or argument this morning. 235 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: The first thing that ought to be said is there 236 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: actually was a lot of jarring language from some of 237 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: the right of center justices. You know, those of you 238 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: who've known me for a long time, who are not 239 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: silly new to the show, you know that one of 240 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: my longest pet peeves I've mean being this drum basically 241 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: my entire adult life, is the utter and complete debacle 242 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: the failure of Republican judicial nominations. Why in the world 243 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: can Republican presidents just not get their judges right? To 244 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 1: be clear, they do sometimes. Most of the Trump Lower 245 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: court judital picks, for the most part, are really good. 246 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: I know that firsthand. I actually clerked for one. I 247 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 1: was one of the very first four law clerks for 248 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: the Honorable James C. Hoe of the US corp Appeals 249 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: for the Fifth Circuit back in twenty eighteen. Judge Hoe 250 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: is a phenomenal jurist, and god willing will be our 251 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: next Supreme Court justice. But all three of Donald Trump's 252 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: first term Supreme Court nominees performed, shall we say, in 253 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: less than stellar fashion at the oral argument earlier today, 254 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: you had both Bret Cavanaugh, both Brett Cavanaugh and Amy 255 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: Coney Barrett, literally both of them who at times referred 256 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: to boys who subjectively identify as girls as so called 257 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: trans girls. Yes, Amy Coney Barrett, the one who's basically 258 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: on the Supreme Court, because Dianne Feinstein, the late Diane Finestelin, 259 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: said that the dogmall lives likely within you. Ye, Amy 260 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: Cony Barrett couldn't even bring herself to describe biological males 261 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: as biological males. Brek Kavanaugh, for Wordsworth did essentially the 262 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: same thing. Neil Gorsich for Wordsworth. Gorsich is a particularly 263 00:14:56,120 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: frustrating one. So Neil Gorsich asked about whether a prohibition 264 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: on on cross sex dressing would amount to discrimination kind 265 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: of this notion that transgenderism can entail subjective notions such 266 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: as changing the clothes that you wear there and he 267 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: actually even asked some of the lawyers for the transgender 268 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: athletes why they were not trying to press the issue 269 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: as to whether transgender's constitutes what in constitutional law are 270 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: known as discrete and insular minorities, which is really kind 271 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: of legalize language. Goes back to a nineteen thirties opinion 272 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: from the New Deal called Caroline Products. An infamous footnote 273 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: in that case called footnote for basically it's not worth 274 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: explaining the details. Basically what this means is gorse is 275 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: trying to tee up for the transgender plaintiff layers a 276 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: possible way of trying to litigate this case in a 277 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: way that it would be seen as complete and utter 278 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: abominable discrimination. Gorstich is the justice who in twenty twenty 279 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: also gave us a case called Bostak was a case 280 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: not on Title nine but on Title seven, which involves 281 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: employment decisions whether you can, for instance, hire or fire 282 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: on the basis of sex. And in the Bostock case, 283 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: the court held six to three where you had John 284 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: Roberts annual, Gorstitch joined the liberals Gorsi's rule for the court. 285 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: At that time, Gorsich held that discrimination on the base 286 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: of sex essentially amounts to discrimination on the basis of 287 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: sex orientation and gender identity. And right now Gorsich today 288 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: seemed to be again advanced the argument that transgenderism should 289 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: be seen as a protected class. And my reading the 290 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: tea les is that Grosich could potentially be a vote 291 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: here to extend his same logic and rationale in the 292 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: Bostock case. That's a Title seven case to now this 293 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: Title nine case when it comes to these two transgender 294 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: at the cases. For what it's worth, John Roberts, who 295 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: is as squishy as of all of the Republican nomination 296 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: jurors on the court there, John Roberts actually came across 297 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: probably as the most sober of all the centrists, which 298 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: is not necessarily the most encouraging thing. Having said that, 299 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: not trying to overly blackpill you guys, I still, despite that, 300 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: find it really really hard to believe that Idaho and 301 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: West Virginia and also the DOJ. The DOJ swooped in 302 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: here as an intervener, they had an oral advocate at 303 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: the courts as well, argue in defense of the Idaho 304 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: and West Virginia laws, or arguing defense of biological reality, 305 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: or arguing defense of sexual dimorphism, arguing defense of the 306 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 1: integrity of biological females not be subjected to athletic competition 307 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: for biological males. So I have to think that there 308 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: is enough that there is enough ammunition even if someone 309 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: like Neil Gorstich were to go wildly. Admittedly, though, you're 310 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: starting to play with fire, because if Gorstich does indeed 311 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: vote to extend his principle from Bostock, and he tries 312 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: to conceive of transgenderism as a so called protective class, 313 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: and he ends up holding on these laws are illegal 314 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: under Title nine, then you're down to a one vote margin. 315 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: You can't afford to lose capital Roberts or Barrett's. So 316 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: it's just so frustrating. I mean, this is such an 317 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: easy case. This is so easy, or at least it 318 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: should be. You know, for all the legal leads we're 319 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: talking here about carolling products footnote four, We're talking about 320 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: discreet insummonorities, intermediate scrutiny, strict scrutiny, all these tears of scrutiny, 321 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: which by the way, are all made up. How about 322 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: he cut to the chase. How about the law just 323 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: reflect the truth? Is that not The purpose of law 324 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: in the first place is to be a reflection of 325 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: the truth, to be a reflection of God's plan for mankind, 326 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: of human anthropology, of human teleology. What we are here 327 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 1: to do? What is our purpose? The law should express this, 328 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: and when it doesn't, that's how you know that a 329 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: law is flawed or is unjust, and when there is 330 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 1: an ambiguous statue, not that any of these statues are 331 00:18:55,680 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 1: ambiguous is incumbent upon judges in this case us to 332 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: read these statutes when in doubt. When an ambiguous cases, 333 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 1: which again this is not, but you should read it 334 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: to err on the side of things like biological truth 335 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 1: and moral truth, substantive justice, things like this. I didn't 336 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: hear a lot of that, frankly at the oral argument 337 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: at the court earlier today. If this does go the 338 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 1: wrong way, if Idah, how West Virginia lose this, and 339 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 1: if the court says that biological males can compete against 340 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: biological females, that is something of a yet another five 341 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: alarm fire for the conservative legal movement. If God forbid, 342 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: two of the three of Kavanaugh Baron Gorsis go the 343 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: wrong way, that is a really, really, really big deal. Again, 344 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: if I had to make a guess, it really seems 345 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: like Gorsis could go the wrong way. I still think 346 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 1: that you look in a five to four victory for 347 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: Idaho and West Virginia, but it really really really should 348 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: not be this close, really really really should not be 349 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 1: this close at all because when a legal regime is 350 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: not ultimately tethered to the truth, is appropriate to start 351 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: questioning the legitimacy of that regime in the first place. 352 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: And it's not just that Bostock is the only recent 353 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: pressant for this. Yes, Gorstitz wobbled and boss Stock and 354 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: Roberts actually, for what it's worth, also had the wrong 355 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: opinion in this Title seven case. But just last year 356 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: it was actually even more recent present. It was a 357 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: case at a Tennessee called Scrimetti. In the Scrimmetti case 358 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: out of Tennessee, the court said that is well within 359 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: the police powers of the states in this case Tennessee 360 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: the volunteer state to severely ban or outright proscribe the 361 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: use of hormones, of chemical castrain drugs, general mutilation, all 362 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: this stuff when it comes to so called transgender adolescents prepubessence. 363 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: That was a sixth three decision that the more recent 364 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 1: case in the Bostock case, that should hold. That absolutely 365 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 1: should hold. But the fundamental point is this against about 366 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: the truth. What is transgenderism. Transgenderism is a lie, of course, 367 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: gender dyspory is not a lie. It's a mental condition. 368 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: But the notion of a distinct class of transgenderism doesn't 369 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 1: make any more sense than a distinct class of drug 370 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: addicts or alcoholics. We should have immense compassion, but in 371 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: no way whatsoever should the law, ever, ever, ever deviate 372 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: from the truth in order to accommodate what is in 373 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: this case a mental illness. God willing, Idaho and West 374 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: Virginia will prevail. We'll be right back. We're also still 375 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: tracking the ice situation in Minneapolis. It's pretty good for 376 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: the most part. Notably my article three project. Colleague Will Chamberlain, 377 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 1: in an excellent incisive post yesterday, noted how this is 378 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: looking at a lot different than the summer of twenty twenty. 379 00:21:56,119 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: Right now, you see a generally emboldened US law enforcement presidents. 380 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: When it comes to ice, when it comes to DHS, 381 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: when it comes to National Guard, but even when it 382 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: comes to the local police that are choosing to work 383 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: with defence, they're generally doing a pretty good job of 384 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: tamping down and putting down the incipient mayhem they are 385 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: in Minneapolis, but more generally speaking, getting us outside of 386 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: the Minneapolis Renee Good ice situation, there continues to be 387 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: a concerted effort on the left to paint illegal aliens 388 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: as the victims of unjust laws. We were talking before 389 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 1: the break about these transgend or athlete cases and the 390 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: notion of trying to make sure that your law is 391 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: tethered to truth and to reality. Well, folks, one of 392 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: the most real and truthful things we can ever say 393 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 1: about the law is that the law exists for a 394 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: particular nation state. There's also this thing as global law, 395 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: other than the law of God, God all My to himself, 396 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 1: the Bibles close as we come to global law. Other 397 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: than that, the entire notion of a body of law 398 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: is implicitly dependent on there being an entity for whom 399 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:15,400 Speaker 1: that law combined. That means the nation state. And if 400 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,239 Speaker 1: you have a nation state, that means you have borders. Now, 401 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: we've had so many Democrats who are pulling their hair 402 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: on saying, oh my God, Ice is deporting a lot 403 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: of these aliens who didn't even commit a crime. They 404 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: didn't commit a homicide or a rape or this or that. There, 405 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 1: They're just undocumented workers, to which I say, the crime 406 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: they committed was when they walked here in the first place. 407 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 1: But don't just take it from me. I was watching 408 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: this wonderful Cliff and a certain gentleman made a certain 409 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: radio address in the year nineteen ninety five on this 410 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: very topic, and he said this, He said, it does 411 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 1: not matter if they have committed crimes while here. They 412 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,479 Speaker 1: came here legally. That's a crime. They have to go. 413 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: Who do I speak of? I speak of Bill Clinton? 414 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: Where is that sentiment today? It was totally common sensible 415 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: back in the mid nineties. Let's go ahead, actually and 416 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: watch this clip of Bill Clinton speaking in his State 417 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: of the union'sdress the very same year of nine ninety five. 418 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 2: In the budget I will present to you, we will 419 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 2: try to do more to speed the deportation of illegal 420 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 2: aliens who a arrested for crimes, to better identify illegal 421 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 2: aliens in the workface, as recommended by the commission headed 422 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 2: by a former. 423 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: Congresswoman Barbara Jordan. 424 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 2: We are a nation of immigrants, but we are also 425 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 2: a nation of laws. It is wrong and ultimately self 426 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 2: defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind 427 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 2: of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in 428 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 2: recent years, and we must do more to stop. 429 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 1: Now he's saying that we're a Nesian of immigrants. I 430 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: take issue with that particular framing America is not a 431 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: nation of immigrants. We are a nation of Americans. We 432 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: are a nation of those who are native born, and yes, 433 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 1: those who came here who have subsumed to have been 434 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: subsumed into Americanism. So I don't agree with the framing 435 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: that we are a nation of immigrants. I actually really 436 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: hate that phrase. Certainly, there are very few people here 437 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 1: who are direct a sentence of the Mayflower in sixteen twenty. 438 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: That's something of a tangential non starter point though, because 439 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: at various points over our family histories, our genealogies, someone 440 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: came here and someone decided to assimilarly, to learn to 441 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: learn English, to subscribe to cultural Americanism, to subscribe to 442 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 1: the broader Protestant work ethic, ethos that has defined this 443 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: country for hundreds of years, to do things like understand 444 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 1: American civics and constitutionalism and this and that. So we're 445 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: a nation of Americans, both the native born and the umorents. 446 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: That's a better way to phrase it. But the point 447 00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 1: is that even slick Willy, even slick Willy Clinton in 448 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: the nineteen nineties compelled to say that we are a 449 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: nation of laws. Of course, nowadays nowadays, if you support Ice, 450 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: if you support a Christy Noman DHS Tom Holman, the 451 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 1: borders are and all the Ice men and women, if 452 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: you support them enforcing this nation's im immigration laws, then 453 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 1: you will get invariably tarn feathered as a fascist. They'll 454 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: call it hate speech. They'll say, oh, man, what are 455 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 1: they doing in rounding up and getting getting this guy? 456 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,199 Speaker 1: Who is he? He's just laying around here. He's not 457 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: committing any crimes. Yes he did. His crime was cries 458 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: on the border illegally. His first act on our soil 459 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: was to be here illegally. When you don't enforce the 460 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: rule of law, respect for the rule of law dies. 461 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 1: Without the rule of law, you are nothing. You are 462 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: nothing whatsoever. 463 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 3: You know. 464 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: We were talking a few minutes ago about these these cases, 465 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: Theupreme Corps, the Trenchender athlete case, and these distinctions between 466 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: biological male or biological female, or transgender or non transgender. 467 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 1: The law is full of distinctions. It is replete with 468 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: attempts to draw lines and to try to say that 469 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: this is an attempt to devise a policy scheme or 470 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 1: legal scheme that work for this group or that group, 471 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 1: but not the other way around. The most important distinction 472 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 1: in all of the rule of law, at least for 473 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 1: the United States of America, is that between Americans and 474 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 1: non Americans. It's deeply relevant when it comes to which 475 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: provisions of the Constitution apply and which provisions of all 476 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: many other statutes in our legal code apply as well. 477 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 1: The Democrats today have lost their everlasting minds when it 478 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 1: comes to the topic of immigration. They say that you 479 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: are trying to go back to nineteen thirties era Germany, 480 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: that Ice is the gestape. How offensive, how utterly appallingly 481 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 1: offensive is this look. If you have an issue with 482 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: how this ministration is enforcing its immigration laws, maybe, just 483 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: maybe you should have forced their hand by letting in 484 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 1: millions and millions millions of unvetted illegal aliens during the 485 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: four years of the Biden Harris regime. Maybe that was 486 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 1: a good idea. Who would have thought of that. I'm 487 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: just so sick of this notion that we hear and 488 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: over over and over again that you have to have 489 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: committed a crime in order to justify Ice supporting you. 490 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: First of all, Ike doesn't give a you know what 491 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: about your own subjective approval or lack thereof. They couldn't 492 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: care less, But they don't need anything more than identifying 493 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: an illegal alien and saying, guess what you're out of here. 494 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,959 Speaker 1: That's the way that it ought to work. Immigration abortion 495 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: Maybe the two issues really more generally with Democrats have 496 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: more the leftist the quickest in the decades since the 497 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: Clinton administration in the nineteen nineties, Bill Clinton was the 498 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: era of safe, legal and rare on the issue of abortion. Nowadays, 499 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: abortion is touted as the left's foremost pagan sacrament, as 500 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: a moloch like altar to the pagan non god goddesses 501 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: that they all too frequently worship in favor or in 502 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: lieu of the One True God. As for immigration, well, 503 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: their immigration priorities other than some occasional votes of relatives 504 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: any people like Eric Adams in New York City, people 505 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: like John Fetterman in Pennsylvania, with very rare exceptions loan 506 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: of voice and wilderness. Their take on immigration seems to 507 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: me that it is dictated by, on the one hand, 508 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: possibly corporate needs, that's the corporate chilling time Democrat, but 509 00:29:54,840 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: more generally and more often by multiculturalism and intersectionality. You know, 510 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: they say that the so called great replacement theory is 511 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: a conspiracy theory, it's not. There is a lot of 512 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: intentional attempts to dilute America's historical inheritance going on there 513 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: as well. A lot of it also is just cynical 514 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: attempts to gain more voters. Really quite simple. But ultimately, 515 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: you are undermining and desecrating the rule of law. By 516 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: promoting a scheme of legal immigration, by encouraging those to 517 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: come here illegally, and by refusing to deport those who 518 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: are already here illegally, you are ruining support and respect 519 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: for the rule of law. You are ruining support for 520 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: the only edifice that prevents us from descending into tyranny 521 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: and anarchy. The rule of law is the bedrock of 522 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,239 Speaker 1: any society. Is one of Donald Trump's fortes. We are 523 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: blessed to have him in power right now. He's doing 524 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: a bank up job at Frankly, when it comes to crime, 525 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: when it comes to illegal immigration, keep it up, mister 526 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: President Bill Clinton. Ninth nineties, frankly would have agreed with you. 527 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Welcome back. Last we checked in 528 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: on Megan Kelly, it wasn't pretty. Unfortunately, it's only gone 529 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: significantly worse since then trust me, I don't like to 530 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: talk about the fact that Megan Kelly has ascended into 531 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: hyperconspiratorial lunacy. I would much prefer it to be the 532 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: case that Megan Kelly were still a voice for civilizational stunning. 533 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: But when you look at Megan Kelly's career, it's really 534 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: only about meg Kelly feels in a given moment, is 535 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: better to boost herself or to better acculturate herself to 536 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: her audience or her cliqts more accurately at a given time. 537 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: You see what's one time back on Fox News, me 538 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: and Kelly really made her bones. She advanced up the 539 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: corporate ladder there at News Corp. As a no nonsense, 540 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: vaguely centrist ish kind of lawyerly proseput style interviewer who 541 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: can forget her every very very difficult grilling, probably over 542 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: the top offensive grilling of Donald Trump back in that 543 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen President of primary debate. Fox News didn't like 544 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: that very much. She ended up going to NBC News, 545 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: where she tried to appease her left wing bosses. At 546 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: thirty Rock, she took a very hard left stance on issues, 547 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 1: where today she now ironically claims to be pretty hardcore 548 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: issues like transgenderism. There was this infamous segment on Making 549 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: Kelly's Show, her very short lived show in NBC years ago, 550 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: where she brought on a group a group of teenagers 551 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: and was lauding them for their courage for transitioning from 552 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: girls to boys or boys to girls. Now, Megan or 553 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 1: Grandma Groper as we prefer to call her, Grandma Draper, 554 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: says that she's had something of a change of heart 555 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: on the issue of transgenderism for teenie, but really, does 556 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: any religious person, does any religious Jew or Christian have 557 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: to evolve or have a change of heart on the 558 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: notion of male female sexual dimorphism. It's only right there 559 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: in the twenty seventh verse of the entire Bible, in 560 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: Genesis one twenty seven, the notion that God made man 561 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 1: his image male and female had created them. Eventually, after 562 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: being fired by NBC News, Main Kelly reservices with her 563 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: current show being and Kelly Show, and for a while 564 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: it was going just fine. Indeed, after the horrific hamas 565 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: Pegram the Simhatora massacre of October seven, twenty twenty three, 566 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: Megan had yours truly on as I guessed fairly frequently, 567 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: including one appearance where I was on for an hour 568 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: or more. It was a really deep dive and all 569 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: the various angles and facets of the then all too 570 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: fresh slaughter and the war that was to come. Unfortunately, 571 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: mein Kelly over the past we'll go back potentially as 572 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: far as year ish, but really really really accelerating over 573 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: the past half year and going into hyperdrive after Charlie 574 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: Kirks assassination. At this point Me and Kelly has made 575 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: her bed with the enemies of Western civilization. She has 576 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: repeatedly made her loyalty to individuals like Candae Owens at 577 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: Tuger Carlson. No, that would be Candace Owens, who is 578 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: a literal nineteen thirties Germany esque Jew hater, who is 579 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: an avowid enemy of Western civilization for that matter, who 580 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: I know from people who attended her wedding. She had 581 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: a drink called Pudence Punch because of her russophilia and 582 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 1: love for the Kremlin in Russia. Canis Owens, who implicated 583 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,800 Speaker 1: Erica Kirk, who Megan pretends to defend Kansas has implicated 584 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: Erica Kirk in her own husband's assassination. Literally a conspiracy 585 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: theorist so dripping in utter madness that even Alex Jones 586 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 1: think felt compelled recently to say, stop, you're making us 587 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: look bad. Really he did that, check the record. And 588 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: Megan also has made her undying loyalty known to Tucker Carlson, 589 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: the single leading provocateur of the anti American, anti Semitic, 590 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 1: anti Western quote unquote right, someone whose daily show is 591 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 1: filled with myriad apologia for Russia, China, Oran Venezuela. He 592 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 1: literally defended Maduro and Venezuela is a daily dose of 593 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:35,879 Speaker 1: how to make the American people stupider. That's what Megan 594 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: Kelly is what I signed up for. Well, just last week, 595 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: less than a mom that though she called me a 596 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: snake on her show, Megan who is the quintessential coward 597 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: because she refuses to actually go with the courage of 598 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: her admittedly kind of only half baits convictions. She refuses 599 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 1: to do anything whatsoever to call out the lunacy from 600 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:03,800 Speaker 1: her friends, refuses, categoric refuses to say, can't just stop, Tucker, stop, 601 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: what are you doing? It's pure cowardice. So she gratuitously 602 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 1: dunked on me about a month ago, for no reason, 603 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: called me a snake for having done it nothing whatsoever 604 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: ovent to retweet one or two vaguely critical tweets. And 605 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: now last week, Megan went on her best friend Tucker 606 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: Carlson the Doha Shill, because Tucker is, if nothing, if 607 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,760 Speaker 1: nothing else, he is certainly a shill for the regime 608 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: and Katar. So Megan Grandma grayper Kelly went on Tucker 609 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: the Dohah Shill Carlson Show last week, and boy was 610 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: it a doozy. They were celebrating who else but Tucker's 611 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 1: most controversial recent guest, otherwise known as the lifelong arch 612 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: foe of their purported friend Charlie Kirk. Nick Fuentes, our 613 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 1: dear friend Dave Ruben put together quite a montage of this. 614 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 1: Go ahead and watch. This is Joseph Stalin's birthday. I'm 615 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 1: a family. You're a fan of Stalins as an admirer. 616 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, but he actually has a lot of things 617 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 4: he talks about that you're like, huh, is it not 618 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 4: a bad point about our country? So we'll be going 619 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 4: out telling people vote for a protest candidate, vote for 620 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 4: the Democrat, vote for a third party, don't vote vote 621 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 4: for anyone else, Do not give the anchor baby your vote. 622 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 4: Disgusting and that's a message for Vance in twenty. 623 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: Eight There is value to be derived from that guy's messaging. 624 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 4: Why do we say Hitler's cool and make jokes about 625 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 4: this because we are destroying the secular religion of liberalism 626 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 4: and the Holocaust, which go hand in glove. 627 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 1: That's why he asked. 628 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,479 Speaker 4: Me about the six million. To tell you the truth. 629 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 4: I don't know how many Jews died during the Holocaust. 630 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 4: Don't care. 631 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:53,959 Speaker 1: He's very interesting. Congratulations, Grandma, you officially made your bed. Look, 632 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 1: we all see what's going on here. Nay Kelly, who 633 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 1: clearly is not happy being consigned to the digit ghetto. 634 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 1: A woman who thinks she should be on cable news 635 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: or maybe even daytime television as she used to be 636 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: with NBC, now desperate to get in with the cool kids, 637 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 1: to try to appeal to the youth in the twilight 638 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 1: years of her career. Ditto Tucker Carlson, by the way, 639 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 1: also formerly of cable News, also consigned to the digital 640 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 1: ghetto now. Tucker is a slightly different situation because he 641 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: really does seem to have some genuine animus and hatred, 642 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 1: not just for Jews, but also for many Christians, frankly, 643 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 1: and also for Western civilization more generally. But Grandma Grouper 644 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:36,879 Speaker 1: is making a purely cynical play here to fall over 645 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:41,760 Speaker 1: hel to trip over herself, to apologize for the gutter, trash, filth, 646 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,280 Speaker 1: the utter verman, as Charlie Kirk called him of Nick Flentes. 647 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,439 Speaker 1: Is this how you treat your friend? I mean, these 648 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 1: two call Charlie Kirk their friend. Fuentess was the lifelong 649 00:38:55,000 --> 00:39:00,439 Speaker 1: arch foe of Charlie Curry. Disgusting, absolutely disgusting, And it's 650 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 1: all this desperate play for clicks. You know, when I 651 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:08,879 Speaker 1: decided to leave my law firm trajectory, when I left 652 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,800 Speaker 1: the law firm years ago now and I finished my 653 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 1: clerkship for my federal judge, and I said, though I 654 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: was going to embark on a different kind of career, 655 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 1: the kind of career that I'm doing right now speaking 656 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:25,320 Speaker 1: into this microphone, producing audio video content, writing columns, writing books, essays. 657 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 1: When I said I was going to leave the legal 658 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,280 Speaker 1: career and do all of this, I made a promise 659 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,799 Speaker 1: myself that I would never sell out. I'm in this 660 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: for the truth. I'm in this because America matters, Because 661 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: ideas matter, because Western civilization matters, because the Biblical inheritance matters. 662 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 1: That's why I'm in this business. When you were deciding 663 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 1: who to get your information from, who to be a 664 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 1: consumer of, when it comes to the media, when it 665 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 1: comes to information, you should ask yourself, is this person 666 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 1: in it because he or she cares about values and 667 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:03,759 Speaker 1: the truth or in it just to be a clickhore. Unfortunately, 668 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 1: Grandma Grouper has established herself as the foremost clickhore of 669 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 1: the current online zeitgeist. It's a really sad, entredded descent 670 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,800 Speaker 1: to watch, but unfortunately there's really no one to blame 671 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 1: for it other than Grandma Groper, Megan Kelly herself. She's 672 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 1: made her bed, she will lie with it. It's a 673 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 1: bold strategy, and frankly, I don't think it's going to 674 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 1: pay off for her. I'm Josh hammer having good EATA 675 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 2: The Josh Hamber Show is a member of the Trust Project.