1 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to Timeless Wisdom with Dennis Prager. Here thousands of 2 00:00:24,240 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: hours of Dennis's lectures, courses in classic radio programs, and 3 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: to purchase Dennis Prager's Rational Bibles, go to Dennisprager dot com. 4 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 2: Hi everybody, and welcome to the Male Female Hour. Every hour, 5 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 2: every hour, every week. At this hour, I discuss men 6 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: and women. I tilt though the Male Female Hour for 7 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 2: a whole host of reasons when we won't get into 8 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 2: them right now. This is Dennis Prager Today's subject on 9 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 2: the Male Female Hour is is there a decline in 10 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 2: the masculinity of men? Has been that? Has that been 11 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 2: taking place in the last generation? Both men and women 12 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: are welcome to call in. My own take is that 13 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 2: that is indeed what has happened, and a lot to 14 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 2: women about this. It is a lament that many women 15 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 2: who are single feel not all And if, by the way, 16 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: if you disagree, I'm not rooting for bad news, believe me. 17 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 2: So if the news out there is better than I 18 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: think it might be, I'd be more than happy to 19 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 2: hear from you one eight Praeger seven seven six. Men, 20 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 2: do you do you feel that there is a decline? 21 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: And I could give you so many examples, and I 22 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: will because the term is a loose term, and first 23 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: of all, it's not even used that much any longer. 24 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: But uh, I guess to use what well look superficial, 25 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 2: but it is not. It is not superficial. It's it's exemplary. 26 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 2: It's an It exemplifies it in a good in a 27 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 2: in an effective way. Is going from John Wayne to 28 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: Tom Cruise as as an is no insult intended whatsoever. 29 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 2: It's not my style and it's not the point at all. 30 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 2: John Wayne is rugged, does doesn't care how he looks, 31 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 2: at least it isn't obvious that he cares how he 32 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 2: looks in a film. And you know you love me, 33 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: don't love me? That's all right. I'm who I am 34 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 2: at Tom Cruise is pretty. I mean, there's no way 35 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 2: around it. I mean he is objectively pretty. He is 36 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: he as long as he will be able, will radiate 37 00:02:54,600 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 2: a boy charm, not a man charm. And movies represent 38 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 2: reality in many ways. And so that's just one of 39 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,399 Speaker 2: so many examples the move by the way to pritifying men. 40 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 2: I am I am struck by the number of of 41 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 2: of movies and the number of men who feel it 42 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 2: necessary to remove body hair. And it used to be 43 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 2: that when I was a kid, and we're not talking 44 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 2: the longest time ago. When I was a kid, boys 45 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: ached to have chest hair, for example. That was a 46 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:40,839 Speaker 2: way in which we knew we're a man. Now they 47 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 2: shave it off. They're models of pretty. Men don't even 48 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: have that. But that is what we call a secondary 49 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 2: masculine trait, just as non hair is a secondary female 50 00:03:55,320 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 2: trait primary or our genitalia. And so it is like 51 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 2: it's a big deal. It was it was considered a 52 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 2: very strong thing representing a guy being a guy. Now 53 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 2: those are symbolic in the looks area where a guy's pretty. 54 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 2: The latest James Bond, Daniel Craig. I'm just looking at 55 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 2: a picture of him from the Daily Mail and he 56 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 2: is he he is as hairless on his body as 57 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 2: a woman as as hairless. And when when when uh 58 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: Sean Connery was was? I mean Sean Connery had had 59 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 2: a had chest hair. I'm not a little and he was, 60 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: you know, women went nuts for him, he was, he 61 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 2: was so just in the James Bond character in the 62 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 2: Double O seven films, you can see this movement. Now 63 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 2: you may say it's trivial, and and you may be right. 64 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 2: I think it's not trivial. I think it is represent representative. 65 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 2: Next is, as a woman lamented to me in at 66 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: what I was. I gave a speech in Toronto last 67 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 2: year and woman at my table was an attractive, successful 68 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: woman and who's who divorced and was dating and hoping 69 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 2: to get married. And she was telling me how it 70 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 2: is it is rare that a man on a date 71 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 2: will pick up the tab. And men tell me, well, 72 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: of course they're not going to pick up the tab. 73 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 2: The woman is usually making just as much money as 74 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 2: he is. Why the hell should I pay for the dinner? 75 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 2: You know, we're just we're we're just getting to know 76 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 2: each other. And I have to tell you I would 77 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 2: and I did. I mean, it's very very late in 78 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 2: my life that that I had any money at all, 79 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 2: and never had much, and before that had very little. 80 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 2: But I would sooner have taken a woman to to 81 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 2: the cheapest restaurant and pay then the most expensive and 82 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 2: split the tab. It was. I never split a tab 83 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 2: with a woman in my life. It was it was, 84 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 2: it was just out of the question. Now I may 85 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 2: be to a lot of young men listening. I may 86 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 2: be just a relic, This might be a dinosaur type idea, 87 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 2: but that's not the point. The point is that there's 88 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 2: a change now. The question is whether the change is good. 89 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 2: The question is whether there is an issue of the 90 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 2: masculine here and the de emphasis on the masculine. And 91 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: that is why I want women to respond, especially if 92 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 2: you are well. I guess married women could call in too. 93 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 2: They may feel that they're this is reflective one way 94 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 2: or the other in their own husband. These are matters 95 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 2: that concern me. There's an article on the Daily Mail 96 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 2: in London and it's titled why women are to blame 97 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 2: for killing off real men? And you know, well, we 98 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 2: wanted the men to do fifty percent of the housework. 99 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 2: We wanted them to cook meals for us, we wanted 100 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 2: them to be sensitive to us, and by golly, we 101 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 2: got what we wished. And now where are the real men? 102 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 2: That's a major part of her of her article. And 103 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 2: that's my question. That's why I tell you. There is 104 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 2: this unsung film Bedazzled, which is so terrific that a 105 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 2: man who sells his soul to the devil. There are 106 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 2: two incarnations, the early one from the sixties and the 107 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 2: recent one from a few years ago. The recent one 108 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 2: from a few years ago has a scene where the 109 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 2: man who has sold his soul to the devil to 110 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 2: get seven wishes so that he could conquer this woman 111 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 2: he has a crush on at work, and he finds 112 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 2: in her diaries. Because they are able to invisibly sneak 113 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: into the room, the devil makes them invisible. He's read 114 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 2: her diary. She wants a sensitive man, so one of 115 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 2: his seven wishes is to become the most sensitive man 116 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 2: in the world, and thereat so he gets his wish, 117 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 2: and the next scene is he's with the girl he 118 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 2: wants to win over, and he is just crying at 119 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 2: the sunset, and a couple of guys walk over to 120 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 2: them kick sand in his face. He does nothing, and 121 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 2: she who wants poetry or recited to her, and a 122 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 2: man who could cry and a man who loves sunsets, 123 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 2: walks off with the guys who kicked the sand in 124 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 2: the guy's face, who were just rough, tough, miserable, rough guys, 125 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 2: but clearly masculine in their way, and leaves him in 126 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 2: the sand. One eighth Prager seven seven six one eight 127 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 2: pr A G. E r seven seven. And that's the question. 128 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 2: Do you feel that there has been an emasculation and 129 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 2: a d emphasis for getting even a masculine just a 130 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 2: d emphasis on the masculine male. And I gave you 131 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 2: the personification in the John Wayne character versus the good 132 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 2: looking boyish character of a Tom Cruise. I'll take your 133 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 2: calls when we come back. One eight p r a 134 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 2: g e er seven seven six. That's eight seven seven 135 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 2: two four three triple seven six. If it's busy, keep trying. 136 00:09:55,440 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 2: This is the Male Female Hour, and I am very 137 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 2: interested in getting your feedback the fifty to fifty man, 138 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 2: is he still masculine? You are listening to the Dennis 139 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 2: Prager Show, The Male Female Hour. 140 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: This episode of Timeless Wisdom will continue right after this. 141 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: Now back to more of Dennis Prager's Timeless Wisdom. 142 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,719 Speaker 2: If I may say a good word about my own 143 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 2: radio show, am I allowed? Alan, I'm not kidding, huh. 144 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 2: You'll allow a dispensation here. This show, I believe is 145 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 2: the most fifty to fifty male female of general talk 146 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 2: shows that exist. And what's even more interesting to me 147 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 2: is that you will have many men call up on 148 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 2: micro subjects and many women call up on macro subjects. 149 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 2: That's how balanced it is now. So right now, I 150 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 2: would have I really predicted all the lines would be female, 151 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 2: and they're all male. But we have to hear from 152 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 2: some females on this, so we may have to do 153 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: a little affirmative action action here one eighth Praguer seven 154 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 2: seven six. This is the Male Female Hour on the 155 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,719 Speaker 2: Dennis Prager Show. The hour each week talking about men 156 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 2: and women, and we talk about some very sensitive of subjects, 157 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 2: as you can see on the list of the subjects 158 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 2: of the show at the Praeger Radio dot com website. 159 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 2: Today the subject is has there been a lessened masculinity 160 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 2: among men in the West generally, but specifically of course 161 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 2: American men? And I think of the change to changes 162 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 2: that I could give you from movies. That's a frame 163 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 2: of reference we would all have from John Wayne to 164 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 2: Tom Cruise, from rugged masculine guy to a pretty boy. 165 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 2: Not meant to insult him in the least. He may 166 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 2: be the most wonderful man. It's not the issue, just 167 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 2: what is personified. There is a boy there, and John 168 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 2: Wayne is never thought of as a boy never. And 169 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 2: the other is the character of Double O. Seven James Bond, 170 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 2: the quintessentially masculine male and the hairy chest of Sean 171 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 2: Connery to Daniel Craig the latest Double seven as hairless 172 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 2: as a female. Now that all may be in your 173 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 2: view nothing and that's fine, but that there are just 174 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 2: two examples from the film world. Alrighty, let's go to 175 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 2: some of your calls and we'll begin in El Segundo, California. Fred, Hi, 176 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 2: Fred Dennis Prager. 177 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 3: Appreciate the opportunity. This is an incredibly important topic. 178 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 2: I love it. 179 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 3: I'd love to go out to dinner with you, watch 180 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 3: you smoke a cigar, all sit the whiskey, and we'll 181 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 3: talk about this for hours. 182 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 2: Thank you, We'll swap vices there we go. 183 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 3: I love those kind of simple, manly advising. 184 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 2: That's right. 185 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 3: So as a side note, I thought about when you 186 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 3: talked about the fifty to fifty relationship. I'll remember when 187 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 3: I was in college and I was twenty years old. 188 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 3: For a short while, I dated an eighteen year old 189 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 3: gal who is a senior in high school, and she 190 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 3: told me especially that she didn't want a fifty to 191 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 3: fifty relationship on like a sixty to forty relationship with 192 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 3: a man takes a lead in the relationship, and to me, 193 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 3: it was what you're talking about that didn't make sense. 194 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 3: I was all about fifty to fifties fairness. What I 195 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 3: told Eva going in a couple things. A there has 196 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 3: clearly been an emasculation of men in our society and 197 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 3: a feminization of society. And you can look at some 198 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 3: of the macro trends, if you will, fads among youth. 199 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 3: When I was a kid in the seventies, moving into eighties, 200 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 3: the guys used to drive those mini little pickup trucks, 201 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 3: and then women started using those mini pickup trucks, and 202 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 3: then girls started driving, women started driving jeeps, then girl 203 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 3: women started smoking cigars, and then women embraced tattooing. All 204 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 3: of those were the domain of men. 205 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 2: Very very good point. And then you look at which 206 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 2: it's funny when you say that I've never I've mentioned 207 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 2: this in the past. I never bought Freud's theory of 208 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 2: penis envy. But with all of the taking on by 209 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 2: by the leading women's movement called feminism, which only was 210 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 2: take on all the traits that men have in their 211 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 2: sexuality in anything, and then in their macro pursuits just 212 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 2: be like men. You wondered, was Freud right? 213 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 3: Probably? And then you look from that, do we see 214 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 3: anxiety which is to some degree liberalism, the embracing of 215 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 3: emotions and you live? 216 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 2: Are you breaking? Unfortunately your phone is breaking down? You know. 217 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 2: That was the third one. So I'm sorry, but I 218 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 2: think his point is right. Do you know what just 219 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 2: hitting me? This is really an idea worth exploring. Is 220 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:20,479 Speaker 2: equality a feminine value? I think it is. See America 221 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 2: was always a masculine society. In fact, that was a 222 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 2: major critique of feminism. It's a patriarchal society. The masculine 223 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 2: was valued in the and macro values, and one of 224 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 2: them is that is not equality. Equality the fifty to fifty. 225 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 2: You know, we will in the micro and the macro 226 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 2: is a feminine or feminist value. We will split the tab. 227 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 2: I will not treat you right, not masculine. I will 228 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 2: do fifty percent of the housework, not I mean whatever 229 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 2: you'll say, you don't. That's not the traditional notion of masculine, 230 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 2: and men do tend to rebel against that unless unless 231 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 2: they have divvied up things where you see it's funny. 232 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 2: I think it's more masculine to be fully in charge 233 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 2: of the house. I don't have a problem with the 234 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 2: house husband. Ironically, I have much more of a problem 235 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 2: with the fifty to fifty. I'll do fifty percent of 236 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 2: the dishes, you'll do fifty percent of I'll do fifty 237 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 2: percent of the beds. You'll do fifty percent of the beds. 238 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 2: I'll do fifty percent of the sweeping. You'll do fifty 239 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 2: percent of the vacuuming. If a guy's in charge of 240 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 2: the house and she gets the money outside, I don't 241 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 2: think he's emasculated. Okay, I just want to make that clear. 242 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 2: But fifty to fifty is not a masculine trade. It's 243 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 2: a feminine trade. You don't want to hurt anybody's feelings 244 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 2: because you don't want anybody better off than anybody else. 245 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 2: The man is I want to win. That's why the 246 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 2: movement not to allow or the movement to give every 247 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 2: kid who plays baseball, every twelve year old gets an award. 248 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 2: As my kids did, you would not know. It'd mean 249 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 2: no way to know whether my kids are on winning 250 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 2: or losing teams because they all got awards. As it 251 00:17:08,360 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 2: is they were. They kept up the prayer tradition of 252 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 2: being on losing teams. But I didn't get awards when 253 00:17:14,159 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 2: I was a kid for being on the losing team. 254 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 2: The only kids who got awards with the kids on 255 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 2: the winning team. And it never occurred to me in 256 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 2: my craziest dreams that I get an award on a 257 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 2: losing team. That's a feminine value. Equality is a feminine value. 258 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 2: France had it not America America's life liberty, the pursuit 259 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 2: of happiness. France's is liberty, equality, fraternity. That's a big difference. 260 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 2: That's why we produced John Wayne. All right, let's go 261 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 2: to some more calls in Houston, Texas. It's Marianne, Hello, Maryanne. 262 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 2: Dennis Prager, Yes, Hello, I. 263 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 4: Was just calling in regarding to the hello, Yes, go ahead. 264 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 4: I'm sorry calling in regards to the eating out. I 265 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 4: definitely think that the you know, we should operate with 266 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 4: our men being men. The only thing advice I give 267 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 4: my daughter who's going out on a dinner date is 268 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 4: to split a fifty fifty, only for the reason that 269 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 4: I don't want the gentleman to think that now he's 270 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 4: laid out money for her, she owes him something. 271 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you see, but that's not the way it 272 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 2: should work. I should pay for the woman because I'm 273 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 2: a man, not because I'm going to get the third 274 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 2: base that night. Back in a moment. 275 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 1: This episode of Timeless Wisdom will continue right after this. 276 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 1: Now back to more of Dennis Prager's Timeless Wisdom. 277 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 2: They're listening to the Dennis Prager Show, and Marianne and Houston, 278 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 2: thank you for that call. We're talking about the question. 279 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 2: This is the Male Female Hour. I have this hour 280 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 2: devoted to issues of men and women every single week 281 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 2: at this time. And the question is is there a 282 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 2: devaluing of masculinity. I have no doubt that there is. 283 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 2: I've given any number of examples, and we'll repeat them later, 284 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 2: but not now. Her last one was because I'm against 285 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 2: the fifty to fifty on a date, I'll pay fifty percent. 286 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 2: I'm a guy. If you're a guy, in my opinion, 287 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 2: you should pay for the whole thing. If you can't 288 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 2: afford to go to a cheaper restaurant, and if the 289 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 2: woman resents you because it's a cheaper restaurant, this is 290 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 2: not the woman for you. What she should instead love 291 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 2: is the fact that you're paying for Of course, I'm 292 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 2: talking first date, second date, third date. That's what I'm 293 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 2: talking about, and this notion of this notion, I have 294 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 2: to tell you, Alan and I looked at each other. 295 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 2: It is as if we come from a different planet. 296 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 2: The guy pays for dinner, and therefore you are obligated 297 00:19:56,200 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 2: to have sex with him. Excuse me? What what that? See? 298 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 2: Mary Anne told her daughter maybe you should have fifty 299 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 2: to fifty. She's against it, Marianne, but she's worried about 300 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 2: her daughter feeling up. Your feel obligated? Is that the 301 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 2: wimpy female we have produced? I'm obligated to go to 302 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 2: bed with him because because I had, he paid for 303 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 2: a step. What are we talking about? I know the 304 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 2: guy would think that yes, no, no, no. She also 305 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 2: said that she'd feels she might feel obligated. Yes, but 306 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 2: that's wrong on both Now does the guy hope that 307 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 2: that happens? Men live with that hope? I mean, that's 308 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 2: what That's what keeps men going. I mean, of course 309 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 2: he has that hope. That's a separate issue. People have 310 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 2: a hope when they get a lottery but nobody who 311 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 2: sells a lottery ticket feels morally obligated to produce a winner. Eh. Alright, 312 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 2: let's go to some more of your calls. We go 313 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:06,479 Speaker 2: to Ray in Cleveland, Ohio. Ray, Dennis Prager, Thanks for calling, Hi, Dennis. 314 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:06,919 Speaker 5: How are you. 315 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm well, Thank you Ray. 316 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 5: Good. I just it's kind of funny. I just started 317 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 5: listening to Talk Greater for the first time in my 318 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 5: life about a week ago, and I had a conversation 319 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 5: with my wife last night about this exact. When I 320 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 5: met my wife, I was the open the door, pull 321 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 5: out the chair, pay for everything when we go out, 322 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 5: very masculine kind of things to do. And we were 323 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 5: about on our fifth or sixth date, and she looked 324 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 5: at me and she said, you're making me feel like 325 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 5: an invalid. I don't like I don't know how to 326 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 5: do anything for myself, Like you make me feel like 327 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 5: I can't pay for my own bill and I can't 328 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 5: open my own door. And she said, and I really 329 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 5: would appreciate it if you didn't do it anymore. And 330 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 5: I had this dumb sounded look on my face, like, 331 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 5: are you kidding me. I'm not saying you can't, I'm 332 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 5: just saying. When I was a kid, my dad told 333 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 5: me that women were to be respected and that we 334 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 5: were to show them respect by doing the things that 335 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 5: were expected to do. 336 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 2: See, it's so interesting that there's a weakening of women 337 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 2: that went along with the weakening of men through feminism. 338 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 2: She thinks she is weaker because you hold the door 339 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 2: for her. Well, I I as if you as if 340 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 2: it she can't open doors. 341 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 5: That's exactly right. My mom always told me that women 342 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 5: look at it the wrong way. My mom always felt 343 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 5: like she was treated like a queen. And the queen 344 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 5: is taken care of. She doesn't even put on her 345 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 5: own shoes for goingn's sake, But she is powerful, and 346 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 5: that is exactly what's wrong. We got these psychologists who 347 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 5: are saying, you know, these men are hurting their boys, 348 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 5: teaching their boys that you know, you got to bring 349 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 5: home the bacon, and you know, you go and shoot 350 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,719 Speaker 5: deer and drink beer with your friends, and you know, 351 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 5: and your your wife is there to serve you. And 352 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 5: we're harming we're harming our kids, and we can't do 353 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 5: it anymore. So then we go to the opposite extreme 354 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 5: and we say, okay, well now we kind of have 355 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 5: to make a switch. It's like the paradigm switch. I 356 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 5: don't understand why there can't be well. 357 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 2: It's worth did she ever object while you were dating 358 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 2: or this is. 359 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 5: New, No, this was this was while we were dating. 360 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,119 Speaker 5: And now we've been married, and you know, I'm twenty 361 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 5: six and we've been married for quite some time now. 362 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 5: And she said to me, she goes, you know, I'd 363 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 5: really like it if you started doing those things again. 364 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 2: Uh huh, all right, Well that's when they say, you know, 365 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 2: a woman is allowed to change your mind, which which 366 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 2: always cracks me up that ironically, I don't like. I'm 367 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 2: not I'm thrilled you change your mind, but I don't 368 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 2: like when that, to me is not a masculine or 369 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 2: feminine thing. It is. It is just wrong. You can't 370 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 2: excuse either sex for not thinking clearly. So I don't 371 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 2: I don't buy that thing. Well, you know, it's a 372 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 2: women's prerogative. Remember that that that line. Yeah, all right, 373 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 2: We continue on the the masculinization or demasculinization of men 374 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 2: on the Dennis Prager Show. Prager, it is the Male 375 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 2: Female Hour on the Dennis Prager Show. I have three 376 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 2: dedicated hours a week. Friday, I have the Hour on Happiness, 377 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 2: Tuesday the Ultimate Issues Hour, and a Wednesday the Male 378 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 2: Female Hour. And this one is about the worry that 379 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 2: I have and many women have expressed to me, and 380 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 2: I think a lot of men feel this, and that 381 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 2: is the emasculating of men. That our society is engaged 382 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 2: in the sense that the masculine is not valued, and 383 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 2: men have kicking and screaming, sometimes voluntarily at other times 384 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 2: just brought into it, like fifty to fifty paying for meals. Well, 385 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,959 Speaker 2: we both make the same amount. But see, let me 386 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 2: explain that to young men listening. What it means if 387 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,679 Speaker 2: you take out a girl on a date and you 388 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 2: pay for it, and I don't care if it's subway, 389 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 2: A masculine man prefers to pay for the whole subway meal, 390 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 2: then pay for half of an upscale restaurant meal. That's 391 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 2: what a masculine man does, okay, so and why because 392 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,479 Speaker 2: when you pay for the meal, what you are saying 393 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 2: to that woman is one day I will be married 394 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 2: and I will try to take care of a woman 395 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 2: and a family. That's what you are. That's what you're announcing. 396 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 2: Now that may not even be possible anymore, given the 397 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 2: the the economy, and I don't mean the specific economy 398 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 2: of today, but the economic reality of women so often 399 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 2: bringing in a good part of the family income. But 400 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 2: that doesn't necessarily mean that the man is not masculine. 401 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 2: It's the desire to do that that makes a man masculine, 402 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 2: not the success in doing that. But if you already 403 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 2: start out life, you're twenty five and on a date, 404 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 2: and you're starting out announcing I'm not going to take 405 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 2: care of you, that's not masculine. Alrighty, let's go to 406 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 2: more of your call and in Pasadena, California, it's Tim, Hi, Tim, 407 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 2: Dennis Prager. 408 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 6: Dennis, it's a real pleasure to talk to you, as always, 409 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 6: and I'm surprised that you're surprised that so many men 410 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 6: are calling in. I think that this is a huge, huge, 411 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 6: huge issue for men because of the way society has 412 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 6: devalued us. And the example I would give you is 413 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 6: the way that we are devalued on television. When is 414 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 6: the last time you saw a masculine man portrayed as 415 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 6: a major person on television in a sitcom or whatnot, 416 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 6: or even commercials. It's fashionable these days that the men 417 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 6: are the bumbling idiots in the world. 418 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 2: That's right, I agree with you. I agree. It's it's 419 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 2: reason number forty six why I consider television and college 420 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 2: the single worst influences in American life. 421 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 6: And speaking of you know, I watched last night Dancing 422 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 6: with the Stars. One of the major persons on there 423 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 6: is a guy, Jason Taylor six six, two hundred and 424 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 6: eighty pounds football player, and here he is doing curiarets 425 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,719 Speaker 6: and whatever else they do dancing, and it just struck 426 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 6: me wrong that he's doing that. 427 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 2: I'm with you, I'm with you. Good luck to you, Tim, 428 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 2: That's correct, San Antonio, Texas. Ryan, Hello, Ryan, Dennis Prager, Hi. 429 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 7: Dennis, thanks for taking my call. I just wanted to 430 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 7: say that from my experience growing up, I believe that 431 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 7: the the masculinization of men has had a lot to 432 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 7: do with so many people that I know who grew 433 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 7: up in single mom households really without male influence, primarily 434 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,439 Speaker 7: in the adolescent years where you need to have your 435 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 7: dad around. 436 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 2: And it's a very interesting point. It's a very very 437 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 2: interesting point. The the the change from Tom Cruise, excuse me, 438 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 2: from John Wayne to Tom Cruise may pre date the 439 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 2: staggering number of single mom raising boys households. But but nevertheless, 440 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:26,439 Speaker 2: I am uh that let me make clear to single 441 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 2: mothers here. It's this is not an inevitability. There are 442 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 2: women who can raise masculine sons. However, it's harder to 443 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 2: do it without a masculine male. In a boy's life, 444 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,719 Speaker 2: he needs a masculine male. Do you know how many 445 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 2: people I've not I don't. I've never said this to 446 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 2: the best of my knowledge. But but it's it's I 447 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 2: think it's. It's it's so important to make your point here, Ryan. 448 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 2: I get so many letters from men telling me that 449 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 2: I am their father figure because they don't have one. 450 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 7: No, I believe it. I believe it, and and I 451 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 7: I think it. It actually affects, uh, the the romantic 452 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 7: issues that a lot of the callers have brought up because, uh, 453 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 7: you know, growing up and not being able to observe 454 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 7: a man and woman interact in a romantic relationship. That 455 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 7: that's healthy, that's right. 456 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 2: This is this is where that's right. This is boys 457 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 2: need boys need male models more than girls need female models. 458 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,719 Speaker 2: There are things that girls need more than boys. There 459 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 2: are things that boys need more than girls. We're not 460 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 2: the same, folks. A boy does not know how to 461 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 2: be man a man without a female model. Girls, unless obstructed, 462 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 2: tend to grow up into women. It's best if they 463 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 2: have a female model, of course it is, but but 464 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 2: but but boys are wilder in nature and without a 465 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 2: very clear image of what it means to be a man, 466 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 2: they don't have a clue. I didn't, No man that 467 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 2: I know did. That was a very important call. Not 468 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 2: only do they not have a man at home in 469 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 2: many instances because of divorce and tiny number of situations, 470 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 2: is the death of a father. But and it shouldn't 471 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 2: be that way. That's why I've always said that joined 472 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 2: physical custody is so important for children. And that's that 473 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 2: may be another male female subject. By the way, how 474 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 2: many women, out of anger at the men or as 475 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 2: certitude that they're the better parent, isolate the father after 476 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 2: a divorce, to the terrible detriment of the kids. But 477 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 2: it's not only there, it's also at school. How many 478 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 2: how many kids have a male teacher until before high school? 479 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 2: How many two percent of the population there are boys 480 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 2: growing up in our Saudi who essentially don't don't interact 481 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 2: with a live male, with a live adult male, not 482 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 2: at home, not at school. You're listening to the Dennis 483 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 2: Prager Show. 484 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: We continue this episode of Timeless wisdom will continue right 485 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: after this. Now back to more of Dennis Prager's timeless wisdom. 486 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 2: All right, everybody, you're listening to the Dennis Prager Show. 487 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 2: And the problem of the masculinization of the male in 488 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 2: our society and the fifty to fifty notion is one 489 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 2: of them. The pretty boy, the chestless, the hairless chest. 490 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 2: It's just so many indications. And we go to Houston, Texas. Isabelle, Hi, Isabelle, 491 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 2: Dennis Prager. 492 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 8: Hi, Dennis, real pleasure to talk to you. 493 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 9: Thank you, love your show. 494 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 8: Thank you mostly because you talk about things that matter, 495 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 8: and I think this really really matters, and you just 496 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 8: touched on it. I think the common is boys are 497 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 8: in single parent homes and typically those are mothers combined 498 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 8: with no male role models in the schools, because in 499 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 8: elementary schools there are no men teaching boys. And I 500 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 8: think it's a huge problem. And even for my son 501 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 8: who has a you know, a male father at home, 502 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 8: a good male role model, I still think it's a 503 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 8: problem and it really worries me a lot. Yep, it 504 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 8: certainly is, and and we need men to step up 505 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 8: to the plate to defend this country. Who are we 506 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 8: going to turn to. 507 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, well there will always be a percentage that that 508 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 2: will but but everything conspires. The college emasculates men. There's 509 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 2: there's no there's no masculinity at our at our colleges. Uh, 510 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 2: it's uh, it's no wonder that a lot of guys 511 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 2: even opt out, and that it's that now there are 512 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 2: more women at colleges. It's not a it's not a 513 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 2: masculinizing experience, and in fact, that's part of the reason 514 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 2: they can think, you know, the elites don't even want 515 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 2: want the military to recruit. There there there there there 516 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 2: masculinity offend the feminized leadership of our colleges. All right, Phoenix, Arizona. Brent, Hello, Brent, Dennis. 517 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 9: Prager, Hi, Dennis, thank you for taking my call. 518 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 2: Thank you. 519 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 9: I wanted to call and get your by the way, 520 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 9: good topic today. I wanted to get your response to 521 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 9: my dating policy, and because I value your input on this. 522 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 9: My dad has always taught me, you know, you pay 523 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 9: for when you go out, and demand takes charge and 524 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 9: pays for bill and whatnot, and I believe that. But 525 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 9: my dating policy is I only want to pay for 526 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 9: my wife when I go out. But I'm not married 527 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 9: and So what typically the girl will say is, well, 528 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 9: you know, how do you know who to pay for them? 529 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 9: And I say, well, I'm not going to pay for you, 530 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,079 Speaker 9: but what I want you to do is wherever. 531 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 2: We go, if we go to all right, Unfortunately I 532 00:34:15,319 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 2: got to leave it there, but I'm for the guy paying. 533 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 2: This has been the male female hour on the Dennis 534 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 2: Prager Show. 535 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: This has been Timeless Wisdom with Dennis Prager. Visit dennispraguer 536 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: dot com for thousands of hours of Dennis's lectures, courses, 537 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: and classic radio programs, and to purchase Dennis Prager's Rational 538 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: Bibles