1 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, and good night. Welcome 2 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: to the Aaron Mullins Show. As always, it is great 3 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: to have your company. I am so pumped up Milania 4 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: the movie. It's about to be released, So tomorrow night 5 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: I'll be going to the world premiere in Washington. In fact, 6 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: right now as you are watching or listening to this, 7 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: I will be traveling to Washington, DC for this. 8 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 2: So excited. 9 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: But now I want to take you inside her world, 10 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: deep inside her world. A man called Mark Beckman has 11 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: been her chief advisor basically forever. He works day in, 12 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: day out right alongside her, and he's about to join 13 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: me on this show, and I cannot wait. We'll get 14 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: into all of that, but first he's the word from 15 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: our partner. Now, New Year's resolutions sound great on January first, 16 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,919 Speaker 1: but by January tenth, well, not so much. 17 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: This year. 18 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: There's one resolution though, that's actually worth keeping. Getting your 19 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: finances in order. You need to do it now. For 20 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: many people. 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I want to know about her and Donald Trump. 39 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: I want to know about her being a mum to baron. 40 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: How the hell does she choose what outfits she wears, 41 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: I mean war regardless of where you sit politically or 42 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: what you think of her husband. 43 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 2: Her fashion is insane. 44 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: That hat on the inauguration, I've seen that in the 45 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: preview of this film. It's the biggest deal with Amazon 46 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: in documentary history, forty million dollars. 47 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: They sold the rights. 48 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: But what about Trump derangement syndrome? Will they be out 49 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 1: to ruin this for the first lady. I mean, as 50 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: we say here on the Aaron Mullen Chow, even if 51 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: you hate us, if you're watching us, it still counts 52 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: as you being a fan, So thank you. 53 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 2: So maybe that will happen. 54 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: But I now want to make you inside this world, 55 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: the world of Milania Trump, with probably someone that is 56 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 1: as close to her as anyone in her family. He 57 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: knows her inside and out in a professional way. His 58 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: name is Mark Beckman. Mark Beckman, Welcome to the Aaron 59 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: Mullin Show. It's such a pleasure to have you here 60 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: and to talk about something well, far more glamorous than 61 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: the subject matter that I usually have. 62 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 2: To cover on this show. So thank you on many fronts. 63 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 3: It's truly an honor. You know, I'm a fan, so 64 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 3: thank you for having me. 65 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: Bless you, bless you, and right back at you. I'm 66 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: so excited to watch Milania. And normally we know a 67 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: lot about someone who's going to be in a movie, 68 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: if they're a famous actor or you know, if there's 69 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: someone in history that has been chronicled over many, many years, Milania. 70 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: We all know who she is. 71 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: Not a lot of people know a hell of a 72 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: lot about her. She is intensely private. 73 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 3: I would say that categorizing her as private is correct, 74 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 3: but it goes a little further. She's also intensely selective. 75 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 3: Here's an individual that kind of takes a play from 76 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 3: old royalty, remember like the traditional royals, where they would 77 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 3: quietly in a reserve, dignified way behind the scenes, be 78 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 3: very impactful. 79 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 4: And that's what we've seen from. 80 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 3: The First Lady of the United States in just the 81 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 3: past year. For example, Aaron if I may as First 82 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 3: Lady of the United States, she's had some incredible achievements 83 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 3: before we get to the film, if I could just 84 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 3: share some of these with you, I mean, one of 85 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 3: the first things she did was she passed new legislation 86 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 3: to Take it Down Act to Protect American Children from 87 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 3: non consensual Intimate Imagery, effectively deep fake porn. She then 88 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 3: went on to secure twenty five million dollars for foster 89 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 3: care individuals in the United States that need housing and 90 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 3: put that into HUD She as you know, penned the 91 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 3: famous letter to President Putin, the Peace Letter, which has 92 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 3: result it already in two reunifications between Ukrainian and Russian 93 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 3: children and their families. And I have good reason to 94 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 3: believe a third component is on the way. She went 95 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 3: on to pass the She championed the Fostering the Future 96 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 3: Executive Order, totally inspired by the work that she's done 97 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 3: for the past five years with foster care children and 98 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 3: that community. 99 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 4: The list goes on and on. It's really incredible. 100 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 3: I mean AI alone, she's built out the Presidential AI Challenge. 101 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 4: She has now. 102 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 3: Participants in all fifty states plus Puerto Rico and Washington, 103 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 3: d C. Just this past Friday, she launched an AI 104 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 3: workshop live from the White House with the CEO of 105 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 3: zoom erk Yuan and they had two thousand kids in 106 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 3: America K through twelve participate. So this person is very impactive, impactful, 107 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 3: And what she does is she selects when to speak. 108 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 3: We're living in a world today, as you know, people 109 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 3: are loud and they get the most attention, and with that, 110 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 3: for some reason, we think they're the most important. But 111 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 3: the old Royals, they were quiet, they were dignified, and 112 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 3: they were selective, and they spoke when they had something 113 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 3: to say, and I think that's what we see here 114 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 3: with our First Lady. 115 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: I think you're spot on and it packs a punch, 116 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: doesn't it. I remember when I first started out in 117 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: television and every charity came to me and wanted me 118 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: to be the face. And I am an EmPATH to 119 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 1: the nth degree, and so I said yes to all 120 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: of them, and towards the end of the year, I 121 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: would speak and not even one person from the media 122 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: would come because it just didn't pack a punch. It 123 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: didn't have impact because I was doing too much of it. 124 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: When you're more selective, you can really change the world, 125 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: can't you. And she's doing that that letter to Putin. 126 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: I can't even imagine how that would have felt for 127 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: her to write something like that to someone like that. 128 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 2: For a reason that involves children's lives. 129 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 3: Aaron, she was deeply moved. She was following the story 130 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 3: with all of these Ukrainian children. She heard the announcement 131 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 3: in Turkey when the Ukrainian First Lady and the twenty 132 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 3: thousand Ukrainian children were missing. That number hasn't been verified, 133 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 3: by the way, but it's worth noting. And she's been 134 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 3: following the story closely, and when President Trump announced that 135 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 3: he was planning to go to Alaska, her idea was, Hey, 136 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 3: let's try to how could we be impactful. Let's do 137 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 3: something and make it permanent. And it was that letter. 138 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 3: It was her idea. That letter has triggered now a 139 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 3: series of conversations, you know, back chant on negotiations that 140 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 3: have resulted in saved lives. 141 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 4: It's important, No. 142 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: It matters more than anything else in the world. The 143 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: plight of our children, whether they're ours or somewhere else, 144 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: it matters more than anything. What is she like as 145 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: a person. She could not be that perfect all the time. 146 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: And if you don't tell me one flaw, I will 147 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: be filthy. 148 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 4: I'll tell you a real flaw. 149 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 3: I mean, this person does not stop working, and she's 150 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 3: giving me my gray hair. 151 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 4: She literally works twenty four to seven. 152 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 3: I can tell you she's one of the hardest working 153 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 3: people in my life. I can't tell you the last 154 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 3: time we took a day off, including holidays, no summer break, 155 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 3: we went. This started before the book launch, So this 156 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 3: goes back quite some time, and we just keep going 157 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 3: on and on. She starts when it's ready. So if 158 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 3: she is a topic that she's ready to hit. At 159 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 3: five point thirty six in the morning every day, I'll 160 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 3: get the text and we get to work, and we'll 161 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 3: keep going if it requires, you know, all night long. 162 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 4: I could tell you. 163 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 3: She had this incredible private screening of the film at 164 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 3: the White House this past Saturday, and after all of 165 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 3: the guests left, she was the first one in the 166 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 3: edit room evaluating all of the photographs and selecting the 167 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 3: best images for all of her guests, the best images 168 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 3: to represent the film and her family. 169 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 4: She doesn't stop. 170 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 3: She was up till the late late hours after that 171 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 3: event on Saturday night, still working. 172 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 2: That's a floor, that's the flow it is for her team. 173 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 2: You have to match. 174 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,599 Speaker 1: And we hear a lot about the president and his 175 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: work ethic, and we see it firsthand because everything he 176 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: does is documented. Essentially, I don't think media has ever 177 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: had as much access to a president whereas hers is. Again, 178 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, she chooses her moment to make it public, 179 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: but twenty four to seven she is preparing for those 180 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: moments and working. What do you think she feels heading 181 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: into this. Is she a nervous kind of person? Is 182 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:26,599 Speaker 1: she anxious? 183 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 5: Like? 184 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 2: What are her emotions. 185 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: Regarding the launch of something that I'm assuming is deeply personal, 186 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: and she's putting that out there on the world stage. 187 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, it is deeply personal. 188 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 3: What she does in this film is for the first time, 189 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 3: this very private and selective individual opens the lens a 190 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 3: little wider so people can see what they've been curious 191 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 3: about for so many years, her family, her business, the philanthropy, 192 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 3: and of course what it's like to re enter the 193 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 3: world of Washington, DC as the first Lady of the 194 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 3: United States of America. 195 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 4: So she gets a little personal. 196 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 3: We could get into those issues in a minute or so, 197 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 3: but I would say right now, she's very focused, like 198 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 3: a laser. 199 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 4: She knows she's got a lot of work to do 200 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 4: right now. 201 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 3: The launch, as you know, the premiere is on the 202 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 3: twenty ninth, across twenty different cities in the United States 203 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 3: as well as in international markets. There are screenings happening 204 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 3: in places like Antwerp, Belgium, in Athens, in London, so 205 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 3: it's all over the world, and she's involved in every 206 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 3: aspect of the planning eron. I'm not sure if you're aware, 207 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 3: but the creative direction, the concept of the film itself 208 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 3: was born from Milania Trump's imagination, and she's also taking 209 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 3: a very hands on role. It's unprecedented for a person 210 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 3: to get involved at this level, but she's creating all 211 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 3: of the trailers, all of the traditional advertising, whether it's broadcast, television, print, 212 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 3: oh radio. 213 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:55,719 Speaker 4: All of the social media. 214 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 3: She's involved in every detail at these live events. So 215 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 3: I keep mentioning Saturday private screening at the White House, 216 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 3: the black and white imagery, very strict guidelines that we've 217 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 3: created with the Millennia brand, but that carried into every 218 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 3: element in the White House. And this will happen at 219 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 3: the Kennedy Center in Nashville, Miami, New York, LA, all 220 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 3: every town, Las Vegas. It goes on and on, every 221 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 3: single detail she's involved in. So I don't think she's 222 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 3: feeling nervous right now. I think she's feeling very determined. 223 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 2: I loved some. 224 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: Of the images, and I mean, you've been in this 225 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: world longer than I have, but even just the kind 226 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: of the torso images of people holding a book or 227 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: a cart or whatever it was were so powerful. I've 228 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: never seen anything like it, photography like it, and it 229 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: looked like, you know, a famous photographer was doing a 230 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: you know a gallery showing yet it was it was 231 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: photos from that moment at the White House. 232 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 2: It was insane. 233 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 3: So what you think is a book, it's actually a 234 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:58,680 Speaker 3: We have created limited edition popcorn tubs and. 235 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 4: The tubs will be available. You're going to experience it 236 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 4: at the Kennedy Center. 237 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: So the better my dress, mak So how the hell 238 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: am I going to eat it? 239 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 2: Well? 240 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 4: You better? So it's gonna be good. It's gonna be 241 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 4: a beautiful evening. It really is. 242 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 3: And we had limited edition popcorn tubs at the White 243 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 3: House and we'll roll them out all over all. 244 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 4: Over the country. 245 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 3: But that black and white imagery that you're seeing, you 246 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 3: took about a famous photographer. 247 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 4: We are so honored. We tapped the world's most important. 248 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,719 Speaker 3: Fashion photographer to shoot the black and white image that 249 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,239 Speaker 3: we're seeing all over the world, whether it's in Australia, 250 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 3: Times Square, Shabouya, Piccadilly Circus, it's even on the side 251 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 3: of the Duomo right now. That image was shot by 252 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 3: the famed fashion photographer Ellen von umwer Unworth and Ellen 253 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 3: took Milania's lead. Basically, the creative vision for this was 254 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 3: directed by Milania Trump and it's an extension from what 255 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 3: we saw with the White House portrait in black and white, 256 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 3: again on brand with black and white, and now it's 257 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 3: that image of her in the chair with tight angles, 258 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 3: all in black and white. So it's an extension, but 259 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 3: again led by the First Lady of the United States. 260 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 2: Incredible. You mentioned personal moments. 261 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: Can you give us an insight as much as you 262 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: can give away? 263 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 4: I could. 264 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 3: I think the most compelling part that comes to life 265 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 3: is the interaction between her and her husband. You might 266 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 3: remember there was a little snippet of that at the 267 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 3: end of the trailer when President Trump calls the First 268 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,719 Speaker 3: Lady and asks her if she saw the results of 269 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 3: him being sealed as president by the Congress leading up 270 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 3: to the inauguration. 271 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 4: But you know, it's these. 272 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 3: Moments, Aaron, like most husbands and wives have this different interaction, 273 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 3: and the media can't cover that when it applies to 274 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 3: Donald and Malania Trump. This is something that's very intimate. 275 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,719 Speaker 3: But what Malania Trump did with the film, which everybody's 276 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 3: got to check out, is she allowed unprecedented access to 277 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 3: her relationship with the President, to meetings that were important 278 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 3: for the family. Remember this film happens shortly after two 279 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 3: assassination attempts on the president, and you might recall that 280 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 3: Iran was calling for I think other people in the 281 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 3: family to be killed as well. So behind the scenes 282 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 3: access to important meetings like security surrounding the inauguration, but 283 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 3: also all the stuff that people might love. For example, 284 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 3: she is the style icon of our generation. Doesn't matter 285 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 3: that Vogue doesn't have her on the cover. What happens 286 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 3: in this film is a fashion explosion. There's more fashion 287 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 3: in here than any fashion magazine can cover. And the 288 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 3: truth of the matter is that people who love fashion 289 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 3: will love it. You see what the process is, how 290 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 3: she selected that iconic hat that she wore into the 291 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 3: rotunda on that famous historic day geopolitics. You might have 292 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 3: seen Queen Rainia of Jordan joined her, and what that 293 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 3: conversation was like, and other world leaders that joined her 294 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 3: during this twenty day period of her life. It's really 295 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 3: an interesting, interesting twenty day period. 296 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: Launching any new project in the world of film is 297 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: nerve wracking, and you know, I can't imagine all that 298 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: goes into it. But add Trump derangement syndrome into this, 299 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: How does that play out. 300 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 2: In your minds? 301 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: And is it something you just write off entirely. Do 302 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: you feel like they'll come to see it and to 303 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: hate it, And that's fine because hey, they're coming. He 304 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: guess why how do you handle that side of things, 305 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: the divisiveness. 306 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, for sure, Trump's arrangement syndrome exists, and 307 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 3: we'll have the haters. You know, they're going to come out. 308 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 3: They're probably already attacking us. But that's fine. We put 309 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 3: together a film that's not political. It's about the most 310 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 3: famous woman on the planet and what she does for 311 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 3: twenty days, marching from New York City to Palm Beach 312 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 3: and then back into the White House in Washington, d C. 313 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 4: It's an incredible historic moment and. 314 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 3: If people want to be inspired, for example, a young 315 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 3: woman in college wants to learn how she could also 316 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 3: build her own career and build her own family. Honestly, 317 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 3: similar to you like what you're doing with your life. 318 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 3: This is a great moment in time for people to 319 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 3: like that. And you know, we can't help the haters 320 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 3: if they're gonna just hate without seeing the film and 321 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 3: learning about this first lady, It's fine, it's not our 322 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 3: it's not for us. 323 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 4: Let's let them let them go cry. It's an amazing moment, Aaron. 324 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 4: I mean, this is the first time a film like 325 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 4: this has been made. 326 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 3: It's been you know, it's it's unprecedented, and if they 327 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 3: want to be upset about it, you know, bless their heartless. 328 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: And I often look at who they cheer for, the 329 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: people who want to destroy me. I look at who 330 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: they cheer for, and I go, what a badge of honor? 331 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: What a badge of honor that you don't see? I 332 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: to ee with me. I will take it. 333 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 2: I will take it. 334 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: What she like is a mother because I myself the 335 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: most important job in the world. Everything I do centers 336 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: around my love and dedication to my child. I'd assume 337 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: it's the same thing. But her baby's grown up now 338 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: as well. So how have you seen that evolution to 339 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: her being a mother all the time with now her 340 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: son having gone away. 341 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 3: You'll see this in the film. She's always been committed 342 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 3: to family first. She talks about it in the book. 343 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 3: Actually it's not just being a mom, it's also being 344 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 3: a very devoted daughter as well as a wife. And 345 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 3: the film brings the interaction between these people her family, 346 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 3: you know, it brings it to fruition. It shows people 347 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 3: really how her family is her priority. 348 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 4: Saturday night at the White House, it was great. 349 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 3: She for the first time presented this film to her 350 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 3: husband's son and father. They sat right there in the 351 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 3: first row with her and it was a very organic, 352 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 3: beautiful response that they had. And people who appreciate family 353 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 3: and want to learn more about it should check out 354 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 3: the film. 355 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,719 Speaker 1: Donald Trump and I'm wrapping up. I know you're very 356 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 1: busy and very important. What is his reaction been to 357 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: this and what is he like? He's a supportive husband, 358 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 1: I imagine. I mean he asked a lot from her. 359 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: She's had to give up a lot for him to 360 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: chase his dream and on behalf of America. 361 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 3: She's proud to be First Lady. It's one of the 362 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 3: most important things for her in her life. I would 363 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 3: say that if I was going to rank them, I 364 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 3: would say her family, her business, philanthropy, and first Lady 365 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 3: all kind of bubble up to the top as far 366 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 3: as her priorities go. President Trump has been extremely supportive. 367 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 3: It was such a beautiful, sincere moment on Saturday night. 368 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 3: It was the first time he saw the film, and 369 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,199 Speaker 3: he stood up at the end and grabbed the microphone. 370 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 3: This wasn't planned, and gave this gorgeous speech about how 371 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 3: proud he was of his wife, but not surprised. He 372 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 3: explained that she was able to create a New York 373 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 3: Times best selling book that sat at the top for 374 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 3: thirteen weeks, and now she's in the film industry, and 375 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 3: he thinks this film deserves to go to the top, 376 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 3: not because of partisan politics. It's not a political film, 377 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 3: but because the story has never been told before. And 378 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 3: what Malania Trump has done is she's authored a story 379 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 3: that will live for the ages. 380 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 2: Last question mark. 381 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: I note that she has started a production company, so 382 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: I assume this is not the last thing we will 383 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: see from her. Well, we see her move into other 384 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: projects that maybe don't involve her personally on camera. But 385 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: is this the start of something much bigger from the 386 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: first lady? 387 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 4: For sure? It's interesting. 388 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 3: Milania came up with the idea and then told me 389 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 3: to go sell this idea, and we sold it to 390 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 3: Amazon MGM. It's the biggest documentary deal in history, forty 391 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 3: million dollars. As you know, it's been widely reported. But 392 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 3: what we sold Arin is a snapshot twenty days into 393 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 3: her life. What we did not sell is the rights 394 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 3: to her best selling book the four years after the 395 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 3: First you know, after the four administration and now in 396 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 3: the forty seven administration. So we fully intend to leverage 397 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 3: Muse Films, her new production company, to create more stories 398 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 3: about this very famous person who lives a life that 399 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 3: only one could imagine. 400 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 4: Plus other conservative. 401 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 3: People, people that are into individual freedom, people like you 402 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 3: who like fashion, art, music, entertainment, who appreciate family, health 403 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 3: and wellness. Honestly, people like you who want to see 404 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 3: this perspective. We're not going to create a vertical that 405 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 3: is standing up Republican politics or partisan politics, but I'm 406 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 3: sure values that you appreciate and share with the First 407 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 3: Lady could come to life with mus Films, and that's 408 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 3: what we plan to do. 409 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 2: I'm so excited. 410 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 1: And that's one thing I love so much about her 411 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: is that you can actually be beautiful. You can dress exquisitively, 412 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: you can have substance alongside all of those things. You 413 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 1: can be attractive, you can save children in Ukraine, you 414 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: can do everything at that. He's not mutually exclusive, and 415 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: often as a society we try and say, well, we 416 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: can't wear that. If you're going to be that, and 417 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: you can't know. Sorry, she can do whatever the hell 418 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: she wants, and she does it all with grace and 419 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: with class. And I cannot wait to watch this, and 420 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 1: I encourage all of my viewers and my listeners to 421 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 1: watch this incredible piece of art, but based on reality, 422 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: a glimpse we would never get otherwise. Mark, congratulations, and 423 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us here on the 424 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: Aeron Mullin Show. 425 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Erin, I appreciate it. 426 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 1: Well, ladies and gentlemen, you I mean, if you haven't 427 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: already gone online to buy these tickets, you should be. 428 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 2: And by the way, no commercial deals done here. 429 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: I get nothing out of you all going to watch 430 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:44,959 Speaker 1: this documentary, this movie, except for the joy that I 431 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: know you will derive from watching this. I'm so excited 432 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: to see it. I'll bring you lots of goss from 433 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: the actual event as well. 434 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 2: Don't you worry. Don't you worry. 435 00:21:55,320 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: The thirtieth it is released globally worldwide of January. Well, 436 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed that very special look into the 437 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: life of Milania Trump. Make sure you, of course go 438 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: and see the movie now. From that interview where I 439 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,959 Speaker 1: was at home in the studio to now I've managed 440 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: to drive to the airport. 441 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 2: I'm about to fly to Washington for the premiere. 442 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: But I've just spoken to Quanta Afmant, who is one 443 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: of the most phenomenal women goes to different war zones 444 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: around the world, reports back. 445 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 2: She's a Muslim woman. 446 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:32,959 Speaker 1: She is so anti terror, which should be the obvious stance. 447 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: By the way, She's focusing at the moment on Syria 448 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: and what is happening with the Kurds there, and her 449 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: words of warning are chilling, but they must be heard. 450 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 2: We'll get into all of that, but first, here's a 451 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 2: word from our partner. 452 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 1: Okay, so I found my brand new obsession and all 453 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 1: the other things that I was obsessed with. 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Now now the Kurds, their forces, 483 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 6: the Syrian Democratic forces have been abruptly stripped of their 484 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 6: US partnership. Really, it happened last weekend in a very 485 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 6: perfunctory manner, and US artillery US patronage has all been withdrawn. 486 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 6: As Ahmad al Shara launched and pushed forward his Islamist 487 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 6: defensive on minority populations. 488 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 5: So that area is home to the Kurds, the. 489 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 6: Yezidis, who've already survived one genocide by ISIS, and also Christians. 490 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 6: And it's not only that a partnership has ended. There 491 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 6: have been atrocities already perpetrated. There is a town called 492 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 6: Kobanni that was known as the Graveyard of Isis, where 493 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 6: the Kurds lost over eleven thousand, some say fifteen thousand 494 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 6: soldiers in the war against ISIS so that it wouldn't 495 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 6: spill over into Europe and the United States. 496 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 5: That is now surrounded besieged. 497 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 6: No electricity, no power, our children dying of hypothermia and 498 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 6: under active assault. These are Ahmad al Sharra's Islamist forces, 499 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 6: and the minorities no longer have that umber of protection 500 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 6: from the Kurdish forces. 501 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 5: It is incredibly shocking. 502 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 2: How has this happened. 503 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: We've seen al Jilanim and he goes by different names, 504 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: former al Qaeda terrorists be embraced by the American administration 505 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: playing basketball with the head of Central Command, with Donald Trump, 506 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 1: of course, shaking the hands of world leaders, including the 507 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 1: French president. Weren't their conditions on having US and Western support, 508 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: that he would not allow this to happen under his watch. 509 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: What role is he playing? Is he enabling this? Is 510 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: he the driving force? Where does he stand? 511 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 6: So? Certainly for a year there has been a discussion 512 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 6: of how the Syrian Democratic Forces would be integrated with 513 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 6: the Syrian National Army, and that was politically sensitive. Both 514 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 6: sides were engaging. But these actions have followed an agreement 515 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 6: that obviously has been made between Turkey and the United 516 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 6: States and France around the same time that Israel was 517 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 6: beginning to form some form of a security understanding with Syria. 518 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 6: Though Israel is not implicated, Antisemites and others that like 519 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 6: to detract israelis suggesting Israel's to blame. 520 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 5: It's quite the opposite. 521 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 6: And it seems that the United States has decided to 522 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:32,479 Speaker 6: allow Turkey full reign over Syria. For those that don't know, 523 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 6: Turkey is a sworn enemy of the Kurds. They did 524 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 6: have a domestic terrorist problem with the PKK. They've now 525 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 6: made peace. These people in the Syrian area of north 526 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:48,239 Speaker 6: Eassyria are not PKK and so and with that, the 527 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 6: US Envoy Tom Barank has essentially dismissed the sacrifice and 528 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 6: allegiance of the Kurds without any ceremony or any care 529 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 6: for the protection of minorities. That's the part that's absolutely shocking, 530 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 6: that is going to become a terrible stain on American legacy. 531 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 5: Just to say one thing. 532 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 6: The Kurts not only were our partners militarily, they share 533 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 6: our values. 534 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 5: The Serian Democratic Forces have. 535 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 6: A female battalion of female warriors that have rescued Yazdi 536 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 6: women that were facing genocide. 537 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 5: They're incredible believers. 538 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 6: In gender equality and democracy, and other than Israel, there's 539 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 6: no other such ally in the entire region. 540 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: What needs to happen to try and stop this bloodshed? 541 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 1: And we look at the situation in Iran where President 542 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: Donald Trump said help is on the way a couple 543 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: of weeks ago. I understand these things take time. I 544 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: understand there is so much at play behind the scenes 545 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 1: that we are not privy to. And I also understand 546 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: that we can't look to the US to fix. 547 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 2: Every global problem. 548 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 1: But bloody hell, I mean, it's in their interest too, 549 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: isn't it. It's in their interest to have stability in 550 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: these regions and not to have murderous dictators enabling slaughters 551 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: of innocent people. 552 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,719 Speaker 6: Some of our lawmakers have already suggested what needs to happen, 553 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 6: immediate snapback sanctions on amadol Shara. We need to have 554 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 6: immediate Senate hearings. Lindsey Graham has taken a lead in 555 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 6: questioning this decision. I think your ground Ambassador Tom Barak, 556 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 6: bring him back to DC and insert somebody who understands 557 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 6: what America's values really are. He's becoming way too comfortable 558 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 6: with Islamist Muslim Brotherhood patron Erdigan and preferring Erdigan's policies 559 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 6: over the United States policies. This could have enormous ramifications 560 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 6: our loyal allies, the Iraqi Kurds that are in Erbil. 561 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 5: Many of those. 562 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 6: Kurdish ordinary people are questioning their alliance with the United States, 563 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 6: their Iranian backed militia in Iraq, who are offering to 564 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 6: help the Syrian Democrat forces, almost as if they're going 565 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 6: to change sides and now want to jeer at anybody 566 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 6: that was an ally with the United States. And with 567 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 6: what's happening in Iran, there's a huge Kurdish population that's 568 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 6: also persecuted in Iran, and this will only add to 569 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 6: the restive sense of mass migration. 570 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 5: We're creating an. 571 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 6: Environment now where ISIS extremists that were also in detention 572 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 6: centers there and prisons in North East Syria are now 573 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 6: being actively unwilfully released by amadol Shara's forces, which seems 574 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 6: to be a way that Turkey is going to utilize 575 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 6: Syria like a valve to release ISIS extremists and terrorism 576 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 6: towards Europe when it wants to exert pressure on Iraq. 577 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 6: Perhaps it's all a disaster. The President needs to make 578 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 6: a statement about the sanctity of minorities in Syria. 579 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 5: Al Shara has to be held. 580 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 6: To task with all kinds of financial sanctions. The envoy 581 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 6: has to be changed, and American people need an answer. 582 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 6: Our own American and troops are devastated. They've served in 583 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 6: parallel with the Kurds for ten years, and the Kurdish 584 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 6: area of Iraq is the one place where not a 585 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 6: single American life was lost in all of the conflict 586 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 6: that followed the Iraq War. So it really is as ignominious, 587 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 6: but maybe with much bigger regional implications than the way 588 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 6: President Biden exited Afghanistan. 589 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 5: But it's just not getting the attention. 590 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 2: It deserves much more attention. 591 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:36,239 Speaker 1: And they're also there's got to be a position that 592 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: the Western nations take. When people side with us and 593 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: support us, we can't then just leave them hanging. President 594 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: Trump takes immense pride in this President of peace, and 595 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: so he should. He's done extraordinary work globally. This risks 596 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: undoing that reputation that he has worked so incredibly hard 597 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: for this conspiral. 598 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 2: It's already out of hand. 599 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: How big can this get if the West and America 600 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: continues to turn a blind eye. 601 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 6: So, first of all, you're correct about President Trump. The 602 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 6: other thing that is absolutely sacrisanct to President Trump is 603 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 6: a religious freedom and international freedom and sheltering minorities. 604 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 5: We've seen that throughout both of his presidencies. 605 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 6: He's even created special envoys, particularly for international religious freedom. 606 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 6: You mentioned something about the international community. One of the 607 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 6: worst betrayals the Kurds have just faced is from France. 608 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 6: There was a memo leaked of President Macran towards President 609 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 6: Trump concerning Denmark and Greenland. But the first line is 610 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 6: we are completely in line with you on Syria, which 611 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 6: suggests the French who defended the Kurds since the time 612 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,479 Speaker 6: of Miterran his wife was considered the mother of all Kurds, 613 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 6: that they've also abandoned him. So your audience is very, 614 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 6: very tuned into the needs of Israel, and Israel is 615 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 6: absolutely concerned, having faced its own years of war after 616 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 6: October seven nth to defend its sovereignty, to protect and 617 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 6: shield the Druids on the Southwest. It also means Turkey 618 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 6: is that much closer to subjugating all of Syria and 619 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 6: threatening Israel. 620 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 5: So that's one. 621 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 6: The second every Israeli leader has to be asking themselves 622 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 6: is if the Kurds can be so unceremoniously dismissed, is 623 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 6: there going to be a similar capricious end to the 624 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 6: US Israel alliance. We've always been worried about that with 625 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 6: the far left attitudes in the United States, But could 626 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 6: this actually happen from an increasingly isolationist America that may 627 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 6: follow the Trump presidency. And in terms of wider implications, 628 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 6: I do believe, and I'm certain you agree, there. 629 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 5: Will be a major strike on Iran. 630 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 6: All of the indicators appointing towards that the Iatolas are over. 631 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 6: We don't know what will follow. It will be upheaval. 632 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 6: But if we now have groups that have been betrayed 633 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 6: by the United States and we have anarchy in Iran, 634 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 6: one thing that I think will happen is with the 635 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 6: end of the transfer of the last isis extremist prisoners 636 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 6: who are being moved to Iraq. That's how much confidence 637 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 6: the United States has in the new series state. 638 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 5: They can't be safe there. 639 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 6: Will the United States pull out of Iraq? Especially if 640 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,959 Speaker 6: Iran is no longer a threat. What happens to the 641 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 6: Iraqi cords in that area? Are they going to be abandoned? 642 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 6: Do we now have Turkish influence spreading not only beyond 643 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 6: Iraq but towards the post regime Iran? Will it capture 644 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 6: also other Brotherhood areas of importance? 645 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 5: Already Lebanon. What's going to happen to Jordan? 646 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 6: Is the Saudi and Gulf Arab countries going to move 647 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 6: closer to Turkey and eventually the US lose all influence. 648 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 6: Any of those possibilities may be developing. 649 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 2: You are absolutely brilliant as always. 650 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for the dedication that you give 651 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 1: to this issue and to so many others, because without 652 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: your voice, so many of it goes completely unnoticed and 653 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 1: intentionally ignored by much of the mainstream media, which is 654 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,720 Speaker 1: disgraceful in so many ways. But thank you for giving 655 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 1: these people a voice. You don't have to, you choose to. 656 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 1: You're amazing and thank you for coming on this show. 657 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 5: A pleasure erin really kind of you. 658 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen. Thank you so so much. We are 659 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 2: on the road. As you can see, I'm in an 660 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 2: airport lounge. Will bring you so much more as it 661 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 2: happens over the next few days. 662 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: Of course, we'll have a very special weekend episode and 663 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: more from the premiere of Milania Trumps