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Speaker 1: Welcome to Christian Parent Crazy World, the podcast that tackles

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Speaker 1: tough topics to help you be a godly parent in

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Speaker 1: an ungodly world. I am your host, Catherine Seekers, and

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Speaker 1: in today's episode, we will tackle this vitally important question,

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Speaker 1: how do we raise globally minded, faith filled kids in

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Speaker 1: a first world culture? Today I am joined by Christy

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Speaker 1: Graham of Samaritans Purse. She is the host of the

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Speaker 1: powerful podcast on the Ground and a mom of four

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Speaker 1: who is living at the intersection of motherhood and international ministry.

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Speaker 1: In this conversation, we're going to explore how witnessing God

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Speaker 1: at work around the world reshapes the way we parent,

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Speaker 1: what we can learn from steadfast believers in places like

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Speaker 1: Ukraine and Sudan, and how stories of transformation from life

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Speaker 1: saving surgeries to women rebuilding their lives through a ministry

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Speaker 1: called a Money Yasu and Kenya can deepen our family's faith.

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Speaker 1: We'll also talk about how everyday families right where you

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Speaker 1: are can step into the Great Commission and raise kids

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Speaker 1: who see beyond their own world and into God's global story.

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Speaker 1: That's the ground we will cover on this episode of

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Speaker 1: Christian Parent Crazy World. You know, if we're honest, most

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Speaker 1: of us parents are running at such a relentless pace.

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Speaker 1: We have school schedules, sports work, church activities, and before

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Speaker 1: we know it, our world can become very small. We're busy,

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Speaker 1: we're tired, and without even realizing it, we can become

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Speaker 1: isolated from the realities that so many believers are facing

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Speaker 1: around the world. But when you look at the ministry

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Speaker 1: of Christ, he was constantly moving toward need, not away

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Speaker 1: from it. He fed the hungry, healed the sick, comforted

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Speaker 1: the broken, and brought hope to the marginalized. Meeting physical

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Speaker 1: needs wasn't separate from his ministry, it was central, and

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Speaker 1: as his followers, we are called to live that same way.

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Speaker 1: We obviously need to do this where we live, but

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Speaker 1: also around the world. We need to open our eyes

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Speaker 1: But here's the truth. When our kids only see faith

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Speaker 1: lived out in comfort, they miss the depth, the dependence,

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Speaker 1: and the power of God that is often most evident

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Speaker 1: in places of suffering. And at some point we are

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Speaker 1: all going to need that steadfast kind of faith no

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Speaker 1: matter where we live. So when we intentionally expose ourselves

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Speaker 1: and our kids to stories of the global church. Stories

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Speaker 1: of courage, of self sacrifice, an unwavering faith. It begins

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Speaker 1: to shape something deeper in them. It builds compassion, it

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Speaker 1: builds perspective, and it anchors their faith into something far

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Speaker 1: bigger than themselves. And what if you could somehow accomplish

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Speaker 1: all of that doll order. I know, but you could

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Speaker 1: accomplish it on your ride to baseball practice or Grandma's house,

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Speaker 1: or on your next road trip. That would be pretty amazing.

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Speaker 1: That is why I'm so excited about today's guest. Christy

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Speaker 1: Graham is with Samaritan's Purse and she is the host

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Speaker 1: of the podcast On the Ground, where she shares powerful,

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Speaker 1: first hand stories from the front lines of ministry around

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Speaker 1: the world. And she's also a mom of four, navigating

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Speaker 1: many of the same challenges that we all face. While

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Speaker 1: helping bring these incredible stories to light. Through her work,

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Speaker 1: she invites us into what God is doing globally, and

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Speaker 1: this work challenges us to think differently about how we live,

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Speaker 1: how we parent, and how we engage with the world

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Speaker 1: around us. So what that said, let's jump right in. Christy,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to Christian Parent Crazy World. I am so

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Speaker 1: excited to have you back.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. I've been looking

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Speaker 2: forward to it.

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Speaker 1: I mentioned to you I have been binge listening to

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Speaker 1: your podcast on the ground with my kids. I've listened

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Speaker 1: to so many episodes, and I'm so excited to talk

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Speaker 1: to you about the amazing work that you guys are doing.

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Speaker 1: But i also want to just encourage my listeners. This

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Speaker 1: is such an education for us globally to hear what

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Speaker 1: around the world. It's really expanding my prayer, my prayer

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Speaker 1: of these needs around the world, but also just giving

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Speaker 1: my kids a taste of what God is doing other cultures,

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Speaker 1: these people around the world. I'm so excited. And you

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Speaker 1: So why don't you introduce yourself to our listeners and

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Speaker 1: tell us how in the world you managed to accomplish

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Speaker 1: all this. We have the same line we were talking

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Speaker 1: about you and all the things that encompass your days,

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Speaker 1: especially in terms of motherhood.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Catherine, Well, thank you so much for having

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Speaker 3: me again. It was so fun last time. I felt

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Speaker 3: like an old friend, you know, just sitting down. We

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Speaker 3: do have so much in common. And I'm a mama

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Speaker 3: four my husband Edward, and I have four kids, one

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Speaker 3: senior and then another freshman, and then sixth grade and

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Speaker 3: the middle. And yeah, it's that's why your podcast is

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Speaker 3: such a perfect tagline for my life.

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Speaker 2: That is how I feel.

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Speaker 3: I don't do it perfectly, you know, I say, I

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Speaker 3: just make progress, you know, and I'm faithful. I'm not

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Speaker 3: There's no perfection here, and sometimes I drop balls. But honestly,

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Speaker 3: I think the way that it works is I always say,

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Speaker 3: it's like you're juggling, you know, and there's glass balls

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Speaker 3: and rubber balls, and so I'll just say this up front.

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Speaker 3: You know, as a mom, my kids are my glass balls,

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Speaker 3: and you know, my husband and certain things God's entrusted

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Speaker 3: And so I think in this season of life, thankfully,

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Speaker 3: my work team is wonderful. They carry a lot of

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Speaker 3: the heavy load and lifting, and I'm able to focus

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Speaker 3: on my kids and then still steward this job, you know,

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Speaker 3: as well as I can. But it takes a team,

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Speaker 3: you know, and so I'm grateful for the team that

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Speaker 3: and so I don't do everything perfectly. I'm just faithful

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Speaker 3: with what the Lord gives me. But yeah, days are

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Speaker 3: I don't know how people do it without the Lord.

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Speaker 3: I say it all the time, you know, without his

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Speaker 1: Amen to that, I just find myself just leaning, leaning,

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Speaker 1: getting ready to sell. How do I do this? I've

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Speaker 1: got to lean into the Holy Spirit. And I am

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Speaker 1: just amazed at all you do because I, like I said,

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Speaker 1: I've been really enjoying just educating my kids and myself

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Speaker 1: I don't want to do that. And I think your

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Speaker 1: show just gives a perfect outlet because you can listen

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Speaker 1: to it on the way to soccer practice, you can

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Speaker 1: of it. There are a couple of episodes where I've

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Speaker 1: a lot of that, but tell us a little bit

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Speaker 1: about how this work with Samaritan's Purse has shaped how

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Speaker 1: you lead as a mom. Can you walk us through

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Speaker 1: that journey? And when did you start the show? How

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Speaker 2: Six or seven years?

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Speaker 3: I'm like, look, so when my husband I moved here,

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Speaker 3: devastated when the Lord called us out, honestly, but the

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Speaker 3: And that was It was really hard for me because

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Speaker 3: And honestly, when you said you were listening to the

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Speaker 3: go with him every time. And so the podcast there

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Speaker 3: it's so true. We can get so our problems can

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Speaker 3: I never want to minimize my kids, but when they

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Speaker 3: her kids starve, you know, it just helps put things

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Speaker 3: into perspective that you know, our pain has a purpose

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Speaker 2: And yeah, every episode becomes my favorite, and.

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Speaker 1: someone in our family, and I got that family. There's

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Speaker 1: a there's a pillowcase with a family tree on it,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, how perfect. And the jewelry, I

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Speaker 1: was kind of like, I've got got a few things

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Speaker 1: I might want to gift myself self there. And it's

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Speaker 1: not it's not crazy prices. They like really well priced.

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Speaker 1: They're not like you don't have to spend a fortune

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Speaker 1: on it, but you kind of want to because you

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Speaker 1: want to support this ministry. So I was absolutely blown

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Speaker 1: away in that episode. There were a lot of tears.

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Speaker 1: I was like, listening to these women, I appreciate, I

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Speaker 1: really appreciate what you said. We don't ever want to

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Speaker 1: make our kids feel bad or minimize necessarily what we're

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Speaker 1: going through. It's hard to be on day thirty nine

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Speaker 1: of a six state bathroom right now, but it's not

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Speaker 1: the same thing. And having that perspective of what these

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Speaker 1: other women are going through certainly helps to shape mine

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Speaker 1: and help me not to get so consumed by the

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Speaker 1: frustration of it all. And it certainly helps my kids

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Speaker 1: and we do even though we're in the West and

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Speaker 1: we have great medical care. I have a dear, dear,

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Speaker 1: dear friend on hospice right now, and so you know,

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Speaker 1: we still have suffering, we still have hardships, but partaking

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Speaker 1: of the suffering and the joy and the transformation that

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Speaker 1: that God is doing in these places around the world.

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Speaker 1: It's just is so inspiring and so encouraging for us.

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Speaker 1: And I tell you, I put that on my list.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to go visit that. Plus, Plus, there's a

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Speaker 1: storefront here in the US. I noticed there's one in Chattooga, right.

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Speaker 3: M Yeah, Becky's daughter helps she runs that. That's where

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Speaker 3: she lives, and so you can physically go to one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, that's not far from me, and I have

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Speaker 1: relatives there, and I'm very excited. I'm going to put

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Speaker 1: that on my bucket list. We're going to go visit

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Speaker 1: the storefront and see it. It just is absolutely beautiful,

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Speaker 1: but even more so what they're doing in the lives

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Speaker 1: of these women. It's just transformation. There was a three

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Speaker 1: step process that the fabric itself helps to allude to.

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Speaker 1: I think it was what was it, I've got it

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Speaker 1: written here somewhere in my notes. It was brokenness, and

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Speaker 1: then it leads to I can't remember the second one,

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Speaker 1: but it was transformation. Was the third one, I've got

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Speaker 1: it somewhere. I'll find it in a minute. But what

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Speaker 1: they're doing there, and that it's kind of woven into

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Speaker 1: the fabric of the ministry, but the actual physical fabric

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Speaker 1: of what these women do, because they come there and

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Speaker 1: they learn how to love and how to forgive, and

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Speaker 1: that transformation is remarkable, remarkable.

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Speaker 3: Speaking to that just a little bit, yeah, and yeah,

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Speaker 3: it was neat to watch, like even as Ingrid was quilting,

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Speaker 3: you know, just when you look at the back of

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Speaker 3: a quilt, it looks like a mess, you know, yea,

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Speaker 3: but she's and it's just such a g analogy of

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Speaker 3: our life, you know, certain aspects, even the hardships. You know,

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Speaker 3: God can again redeem and restore and he's he's making,

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Speaker 3: you know, a beautiful tapestry. And so it's fun to

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Speaker 3: watch these women's Yeah, tangily, you are taking brokenness, you

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Speaker 3: are taking and they actually die their own fabric there.

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Speaker 3: They have little I got to like stamp the you know, elephants,

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Speaker 3: and then you put it in the die and again

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Speaker 3: it's like, you know, so you watch, yeah, brokenness come

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Speaker 3: out and be transformed, and it just I love the

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Speaker 3: way that they have tangibly put to words. You know

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Speaker 3: what God does in our hearts and our lives. And again,

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Speaker 3: every single woman that comes through those doors, I mean

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Speaker 3: she is fleeing something. You know, she has lost something,

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Speaker 3: she's been abused, she's been marginalized, She's had to flee.

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Speaker 3: And yet God transforms and he makes all things new

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Speaker 3: and truly is you watch, we are new creation in

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Speaker 3: Christ Jesus. And it was just amazing to witness. And

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Speaker 3: again I just I can still get Tyri and brought

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Speaker 3: back to worshiping with those women, and you know, just

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Speaker 3: knowing each one had such stories. And like you said,

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Speaker 3: I never, you know, want to minimize anybody's pain, because

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Speaker 3: pain is pain, right, whatever you're facing is pain. But

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Speaker 3: perspective I think allows us to come outside of our pain.

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Speaker 3: Because pain can isolate, it can make us go inward,

511
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Speaker 3: and it can make us and again even my kids,

512
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Speaker 3: whatever they're dealing with, it can make them go so inward.

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Speaker 3: But when we go outward and upward I mean upwards

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Speaker 3: most important to Jesus. But we go outward and see

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Speaker 3: other people's pain. Again, it doesn't change our circumstances, but

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Speaker 3: it changes our perspective and it allows us to use

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Speaker 3: that pain with a purpose.

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Speaker 2: So I think it's just I do.

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Speaker 3: I bring up these stories often, you know, just when

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Speaker 3: we're facing daily you know, struggles. Again, it doesn't minimize that,

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Speaker 3: but I think even myself, I have to tell myself,

522
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Speaker 3: remember what Ingrid left. I can face this with joy,

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Speaker 3: you know, and I can praise Jesus because there's always

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Speaker 3: things to be grateful for. And I think that's something

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Speaker 3: I learned from these women too, that even though they

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Speaker 3: have a lot of lacks, and they definitely have a

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Speaker 3: lot of still pain and burdens, they only see the positives,

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Speaker 3: you know, they're they're able to praise the Lord. And

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Speaker 3: so I think that's something that changed me to was

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Speaker 3: in every situation we have, we can praise Him, and

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Speaker 3: even if our salvation is the only thing, you know,

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Speaker 3: that's possible. Again, what Ingrid said, Jesus is enough. You know,

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Speaker 3: on hard days where nothing is going right, Jesus is enough.

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Speaker 3: You know the fact that he died, He's sent his

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Speaker 3: son Jesus for my sins, and I live forever with him,

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Speaker 3: that is enough to face the day. So but again,

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Speaker 3: we have so much more to be thankful for. So

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Speaker 3: I try to tell the kids, you know, just look

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Speaker 3: at the good you know, look at the praises. You know,

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Speaker 3: we get to go to school, we get to you know,

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Speaker 3: have a fridge full of food. I think we can

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Speaker 3: sometimes we look at what we're lacking or what we

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Speaker 3: don't have, and when we look at what we do have,

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Speaker 3: it it just changes the way that we respond to situations.

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Speaker 1: Amen. Amen to that. I found that quote by Becky Good.

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Speaker 1: She's talking about how the story is sewn into the

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Speaker 1: fabric of the things that they make there. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, I saw that elephant, that elephant print on

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Speaker 1: the apron. I thought it was so cute. I almost

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Speaker 1: got that one, but I ended up going with a

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Speaker 1: different one. She said, And so these are the garments

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Speaker 1: that they wear, and each garment tells a tells part

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Speaker 1: of the story, the story of our transformation, what God

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Speaker 1: does in us. So we have three parts brokenness, transformation,

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Speaker 1: and celebration. That was the part I was looking for.

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Speaker 1: And I love that because you've got the transformation, but

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Speaker 1: it's followed by a celebration about what God has done.

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Speaker 1: And you alluded to Isaiah sixty one. You know, beauty

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Speaker 1: from ashes, gladness from mourning, praise from despair. That's what

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Speaker 1: God is doing in each of these broken lives. He's

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Speaker 1: transforming them, and he's giving all of us something incredible

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Speaker 1: to celebrate. He's doing that in our lives as well.

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Speaker 1: He's doing the same thing. Yes, we're here in the West,

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Speaker 1: but he's doing the same thing with our brokenness. He's

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Speaker 1: helping to transform us and give us something to celebrate.

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Speaker 1: I also want to talk to you about this Children's

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Speaker 1: Heart Project. I was really moved watching the video of

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Speaker 1: what they're able to do around the world. Their parent

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine also having a child with a life

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Speaker 1: threatening need or illness and I didn't have the ability

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Speaker 1: to do anything about it. And you guys come in

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Speaker 1: and you're able, through the Children's Heart Project to give

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Speaker 1: life altering, life saving operations to children. And I was

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Speaker 1: really moved. You talked about how you can see in

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Speaker 1: some of these children they get so ill their face

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Speaker 1: their lips are turning blue. You could see it in

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Speaker 1: the video. There was one child her lips were dark blue.

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Speaker 1: I noted that when I was looking at it. And

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Speaker 1: then they come in, they're able through this project, through

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Speaker 1: this ministry, to transform lives there and to save the

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Speaker 1: lives of these children physically here on earth. That's amazing.

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Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit more about what's going on there. Hey, friends,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we work in several countries where they don't

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Speaker 3: have the capability to perform these heart surgeries, so these

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Speaker 3: kids are born with holes in their hearts. And so yeah,

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Speaker 3: like Mongolia or Uganda, there's several countries where and or

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Speaker 3: or they do have you know, maybe one or two

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Speaker 3: hospitals that can do it, but it's just too expensive.

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Speaker 3: So these kids they are literally dying, you know. And

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Speaker 3: you know, again here in the US, you know, we

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Speaker 3: would find out about that at birth and you know,

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Speaker 3: be able to do the surgery pretty quickly, but in

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Speaker 3: certain countries it's missed for many years. In fact, one year,

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Speaker 3: I went to Cayman Islands, is one of our hospitals

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Speaker 3: that donates their time and does the surgeries for us.

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Speaker 3: And I went and there was a mom and a

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Speaker 3: daughter and she was going for her daughter and found

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Speaker 3: out she had a hole in her heart. And here

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Speaker 3: this twenty year old mom had lived her whole life.

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Speaker 3: And you know, then it explained, Oh that's why I

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Speaker 3: pass out all the time and I can't do common

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Speaker 3: tasks and I've struggled and people made fun of me

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Speaker 3: as a kid because I couldn't play. And you know,

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Speaker 3: again hers wasn't as severe as some of the kids

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Speaker 3: that come through that are blue and it's visible that

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Speaker 3: they have problems. But anyway, I got to witness both

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Speaker 3: of them get surgery one time and it was incredible.

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Speaker 3: Both you know, had this life changing surgery. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: as a mom, could you imagine watching your kid struggle.

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Speaker 3: Some are again they miss the symptoms, they miss what's happening,

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Speaker 3: and so they don't catch it for years. And so

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Speaker 3: some of these kids are older, but then some it

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Speaker 3: is so severe that as a baby it's figured out.

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Speaker 3: And so I love that this Children's Heart Project. We

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Speaker 3: have translators and staff in those countries, so they meet

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Speaker 3: with these kids when they come for their assessments, they

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Speaker 3: get to know them. Then we have chaplains, so we

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Speaker 3: build relationship. This is such a long term relationship building ministry.

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Speaker 2: And so once they've.

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Speaker 3: Qualified and we realize their candidate, they're able to travel.

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Speaker 3: They'll go to one of our partner hospitals and it's

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Speaker 3: about six weeks, which again is so incredible.

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Speaker 2: They stay with a host family, and.

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Speaker 3: So we have church partners from around the world that

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Speaker 3: host these families. And again they get to see Jesus

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Speaker 3: in these homes. You know, they get to stay and

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Speaker 3: live with them, so many except Christ because of this.

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Speaker 3: You know, they come with their mom and their interpreter

648
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 3: and it's just incredible. But yes, the surgery is incredible.

649
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 3: I mean they go from being blue, unable to breathe,

650
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 3: unable to perform normal tasks, and then they feel good

651
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 3: right away. So even as they're you know, rehabbing and

652
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,959
Speaker 3: you know they're sore, they feel incredible and they feel

653
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 3: the physical dissonance. But more than that, it's the spiritual

654
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 3: transformation we see time and time again because it's such

655
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 3: a long term ministry where we build relationships and they

656
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 3: come to know Christ, you know, because they witness the

657
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 3: family or the you know, the translator. And what's need

658
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 3: is then they go home and these communities are impacted

659
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 3: because so it's such a ripple effect ministry because they

660
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 3: will come home and this community will have watched this

661
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 3: sick child be healed. You know, it's like again you

662
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 3: watch it in the New Testament when Jesus healed people

663
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 3: and they went from blind, you know, to site or

664
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Speaker 3: they went from sick, lame to running. And so these

665
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 3: communities get to see. But more than that, they ask

666
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 3: why why would you do this? You know, and our

667
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 3: chaplains and our translators can say, because of Jesus. And

668
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,839
Speaker 3: again it's I love these projects that are a tangible

669
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 3: witness for the gospel. You know that God so loved

670
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 3: the world that he gave his one on only son,

671
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 3: you know, he you don't pay a debt, He paid

672
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 3: the debt.

673
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 2: You know.

674
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 3: It's just this amazing ministry where kids' lives are changed.

675
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 3: But it doesn't just impact the kid, it impacts the

676
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 3: whole community. And so we are watching, you know, so

677
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 3: much ministry happen and these kids, yeah, get to live

678
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,439
Speaker 3: a full life. And I got to talk to one

679
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 3: from Mongolia who now is a pastor, you know, and

680
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,280
Speaker 3: he his life was changed.

681
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 2: You know.

682
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 3: It came from a small village, never had heard about Christ,

683
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 3: you know, became a Christian and it's now a pastor

684
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 3: and wants to share Jesus with Mongolia.

685
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Speaker 2: You know.

686
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,359
Speaker 3: It's just and many have become doctors or you know,

687
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 3: just lives have been radically changed because of this surgery.

688
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 3: And again it's you know, as a mom, we want

689
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 3: to do everything for our kids, and so these parents.

690
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 3: It is just incredible for them to have this be

691
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 3: taken care of, and again it's a debt that they

692
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 3: couldn't pay. And again we just bring it back to

693
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 3: the gospel that you know, He for God so loved us,

694
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Speaker 3: and so it is.

695
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Speaker 2: It is a really neat ministry.

696
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 3: I could talk about it all day, so I feel

697
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 3: like I need to stop talking.

698
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm loving every minute of it. This is

699
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 1: so awesome because it's the entry point of the Gospel

700
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Speaker 1: into not only the lives of those individuals, as you

701
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: were saying, but as you were saying, the whole community,

702
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 1: because they're like, wait, what did this happen? Why did

703
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 1: they do this? Right? And then that is where they

704
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 1: can begin to share the gospel message with their communities.

705
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 1: I was reminded of the woman at the well. She

706
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: was touched by Jesus and she went back and told

707
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: her whole community what he had done for her, what

708
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: he knew, and how he had reached out to her

709
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: with compassion and love. And it's just it's a beautiful

710
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 1: ministry to reach to help spread the Great Commission, because

711
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,479
Speaker 1: that's how Jesus minister right. He first met physical needs

712
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: so that he could meet spiritual needs, and there's all

713
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: of these physical needs that thank God, we have the

714
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: technology now to meet so many of them. They may

715
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: not have it in their country and their hospitals, but

716
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: we're able to bring it to them, and that's just

717
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: such a beautiful thing.

718
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Speaker 4: Love love that I do want to talk to you

719
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 4: about some of these other incredible stories that you're able

720
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 4: to share, because not only do you talk about the

721
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 4: ministry that you're doing on the ground, but you talk

722
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 4: about a lot of the people behind the scenes.

723
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Speaker 1: And I have to tell you, I was utterly and

724
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 1: completely blown away and riveted by your two part episodes

725
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: on the Hijacked Plane and the Pilot. I decided to

726
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 1: listen to that. I was on the way home. I

727
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: rarely have ever have only one kid in the car,

728
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: but I had one kid in the car was my

729
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: eleven year old, who is like, if it's not about

730
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: Jesus or baseball, he's not really interested. And so I

731
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: stuck that one on and for forty minutes on the

732
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: way home, the two of us were like on the

733
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: edge of our seats. I was just if there had

734
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: been flies in the car, they would have been in

735
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 1: my mouth, because my mouth was Agape. I was like

736
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: probably clinching the wheel because it was like so exciting

737
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 1: and so incredible what Jesus did. So there was a

738
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: hijacked plane with one of your pilots, and this was Kenya.

739
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Speaker 1: Was it Kenya or am i?

740
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 2: Yes?

741
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, well he lives in Kenya, but he was

742
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 3: flying in Sudan, but it doesn't Yeah, he flies over

743
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 3: all over Africa.

744
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,879
Speaker 1: So yes, Jim straight, Jim straight. So you were interviewing

745
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: him and what happened when his plane was hijacked, and

746
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: let me just tell you, I want you to share

747
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: part of the story. But we get to the end

748
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: of the episode. Writers were pulling into the driveway and

749
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: it's a two part series and you come on and

750
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: you said you said tune in next week to hear

751
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: the conclusion of this story. And my eleven year old

752
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: son is like, oh man, I was so upset that

753
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: he thought he was gonna have to wait another week.

754
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: He didn't know it was an episode that had been

755
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,240
Speaker 1: out for a couple of months, but he was really bummed.

756
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: And not only that, he was going on a road

757
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: trip the next day to Mississippi to play in a tournament,

758
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: and his grandfather was taking him, who is major baby boomer.

759
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,839
Speaker 1: He goes and makes him download Spotify so he can

760
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: get the episodes so they can So how in the

761
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: world are you appealing to baby boomers all the way

762
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: down to Jen Although I don't know, I have to

763
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: tip my hat to you, but I thought it was phenomenal.

764
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Speaker 1: I send it to everybody. I sent it to my husband.

765
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Speaker 1: I've listened to it again with my daughters. This was

766
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Speaker 1: not only incredible podcasting, but it was just such an

767
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: incredible story about what God did when one of your

768
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Speaker 1: pilots was hijack. Tell us a little bit about that.

769
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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. I know. I hate to give anyway

770
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Speaker 2: because I want people to listen to me.

771
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,919
Speaker 1: I want to give too much away either, because it's

772
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: such a great story. I'll link at the show notes

773
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: because you don't have to listen to it.

774
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Speaker 3: But Jim, you know, he and his wife have been

775
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 3: missionaries for over forty years in Africa and just selfless servants.

776
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 3: That again, I just love meeting I met him this

777
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 3: summer in Kenya. He flew us to one of the

778
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Speaker 3: hospitals and just I was overwhelmed with just his selflessness,

779
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 3: the way that he has served the Lord, you know,

780
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Speaker 3: not I won't say quietly, because he's made big impacts.

781
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 3: But then this, this event happens, and again it's just

782
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 3: incredible and it shows you that when you're faithful with

783
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Speaker 3: the little, you can be entrusted with much, you know,

784
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Speaker 3: And that is something that Jim he was just doing

785
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 3: a routine flight that day, you know, in fact, in Kenya,

786
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Speaker 3: he flies a lot in Sudan and self student delivering supplies.

787
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Speaker 3: He's constantly dropping things off, and so it was a

788
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 3: routine day for him. But yes, his plane was hijacked

789
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 3: and he just had one other staff member on the plane, Ben,

790
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 3: who was gonna go work on one of our hospitals.

791
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Speaker 3: And I have, yes, used that, I've talked. We've talked

792
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 3: about this so much in our home because I just

793
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 3: you know, said, this is why, you know, the grass

794
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 3: withers and the flowers fade, but the word of the

795
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 3: Lord stands forever.

796
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Speaker 1: You know.

797
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 3: Jim even said, I don't have a great men, I

798
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 3: don't know what to do in circumstances, but the word

799
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 3: of the Lord is what came out of his mouth,

800
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 3: you know, in a time where you could be really fearful,

801
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 3: and I just love the way that he wasn't afraid

802
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,240
Speaker 3: because for one, he knew where.

803
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 2: His home was.

804
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 3: And probably my favorite quote that he said was he

805
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:17,839
Speaker 3: decided it was either going to be a good day

806
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 3: or a great day. You know, it was going to

807
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 3: be a good day if he got to go home

808
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 3: and see his wife, that would be wonderful, But it

809
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 3: would be a great day if he got to be

810
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 3: with his father. And I just love that. Philippians. You know,

811
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 3: one for me to live is Christ to die is gain.

812
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 3: If I live in the flesh, this means fruitful work

813
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,280
Speaker 3: for me. And I don't know which one I should choose,

814
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 3: you know, And that is in the middle of the cockpit,

815
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 3: that is what he's thinking about. And I just was

816
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 3: really convicted, you know, Lord is that And I think

817
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,760
Speaker 3: that's where again, what we're faithful with in the little

818
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 3: is how we're entrusted, you know, am I. You know

819
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 3: again what we talked about earlier with our kids. I

820
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 3: don't want them to feel guilty, but in those hard

821
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 3: if that presses us into God's word, and it presses

822
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 3: us into you know, you know, we're just remembering we're outwardly,

823
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 3: we're wasting away.

824
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 2: But inwardly, we can be renewed day by day.

825
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 3: And so I think Jim just exemplified being somebody that

826
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 3: is renewed every day in God's word. And God even

827
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 3: prepared him ahead of that flight, you know. And I

828
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 3: think that's something that struck me, was really being And

829
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Speaker 3: I love how you and even earlier you said that

830
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 3: when things get crazy and we just have to recenter

831
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 3: and just hear from God. I think versus that I

832
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 3: took for granted as a kid are now coming to life,

833
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 3: like trust in the Lord with all your heart and

834
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 3: lean not on your own understanding. I think after talking

835
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 3: to Jim, that's one that has really resonated with me

836
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 3: is I don't want to lean on my own understanding,

837
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,959
Speaker 3: you know, I need to lean on God and pour

838
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 3: in his words so that it can pour out from

839
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 3: me when things get hard. But yes, this plane was hijacked,

840
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 3: and you know, it was such a great episode. But

841
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 3: I struggled with making a two part because I was like,

842
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 3: I don't want to miss people, because the second part

843
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 3: I thought was even more incredible. It was, you know,

844
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 3: just and again what both of our pilots, and we

845
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 3: had twoilet's telling the story. You know one from you know,

846
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 3: Jim actually in the cockpit, and then Matt was somebody

847
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 3: that you know here at International Headquarters.

848
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 2: They were you know, through.

849
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Speaker 3: Communication, trying to give him guidance and counsel and so

850
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 3: to hear Matt's perspective, somebody that is, I mean, they've

851
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 3: been friends and neighbors for many years. They lived in

852
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 3: Africa together for a long time. You know, I can't

853
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 3: imagine knowing what my friend was going up against. And

854
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 3: I think sometimes it's harder for us when we're not

855
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 3: in action, you know, and we're out of control and

856
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 3: we have to trust the Lord. But again, just to

857
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,760
Speaker 3: see the way that they both learned from the Lord,

858
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 3: I think there's just so many things for us to

859
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 3: take away.

860
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Speaker 2: And I need to listen to that.

861
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Speaker 3: Again because I think there's just so many truths to

862
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 3: come out of it.

863
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Speaker 2: And I love that.

864
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Speaker 3: Yeah, your son was so rivetted, and you know our

865
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Speaker 3: boys too. It's just but just the power of Christ,

866
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 3: you know. And again, we do the possible, We do

867
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 3: as much as we can, but it's God who convicts hearts,

868
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 3: and that hijacker, I mean, his heart was convicted, you know,

869
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 3: when he shared the name of Jesus with him. I

870
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 3: think that was Another thing that really struck me was that,

871
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 3: you know, Ephesian six, we have enemies, you know, and

872
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 3: but we are not going against them unarmed. You know,

873
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 3: we have the breastplate of righteousness and the sword of

874
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,720
Speaker 3: the Truth. And I think just remembering that our battle

875
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 3: is not against flesh and blood. And I love how

876
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 3: Jim said, you know, I realized, I'm not fighting a

877
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 3: physical battle, fighting a spiritual battle, and so I'm in

878
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:28,240
Speaker 3: us to fight it with spiritual armor. And again, that man,

879
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,439
Speaker 3: he was someone lost without a shepherd. And I think

880
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 3: that's another thing. Another takeaway from that episode was and

881
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 3: that's what smarried furs we the good Samaritan. It started

882
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,919
Speaker 3: with compassion, you know, the Samaritan had compassion for that man. Yes,

883
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 3: he went and helped him physically, but it starts with compassion.

884
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 3: And we need to have compassion with everyone we come across, right,

885
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 3: you know, even a hijacker who is wanting to do

886
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 3: harm to us. He is like a sheep without a shepherd.

887
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 3: And I love that Jim loved him enough to tell

888
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 3: him the gospel, to pray with him and then even

889
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 3: after and I actually I need to follow up with

890
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 3: Jim and see if he's been able to go visit him,

891
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 3: because he said, I really want to know after this,

892
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get in touch with Jim and just find

893
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 3: out if he's able to go visit him, because I think,

894
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 3: you know, again, that was a divine and appointment that

895
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 3: you know, what man meant for evil, God can use

896
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 3: for the purposes and you know, for his glory. And

897
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 3: so he's continuing to pray for that man he'll know

898
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 3: Jesus and but yeah, incredible story. But again, I this

899
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 3: is why I love spotlighting our staff because they're not

900
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 3: doing anything that the world would know about.

901
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 2: You know.

902
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 3: It's he's being faithful and the little and God isn't

903
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 3: trusting him with much. And so it just shows you

904
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 3: that we never know what a day brings.

905
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: And so I want to see the film version of this.

906
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: I really think you've got a movie here. I'm not

907
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: carry it would. And all the things that you mentioned

908
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: were the same things that jump out at me. It

909
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: started things started to turn with compassion. Like I said,

910
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 1: I don't want to give too much away, but the

911
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: hijacker had lost all of his family, and Jim had

912
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 1: compassion on that and then everything really turned when he

913
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: introduced the name of Jesus, and like you said, in

914
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,919
Speaker 1: his own personal prayer time before, God had prepared him.

915
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: And I want to read the quote that he said

916
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 1: in that because that it was the same thing that

917
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: was the big thing for me, he said. Jim said,

918
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: I encourage myself with that reality that at some point

919
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: this is going to end in two hours and it

920
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: will either end good or great. Is what I told myself.

921
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 1: It'll end good. If I'm on the ground somewhere walking

922
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 1: around with the testimony, it'll end great. If he pulls

923
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: the trigger for me, it will end great. And that

924
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 1: was such a tremendous perspective to have. I think that's

925
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 1: a lot harder, like you said, for Matt on the ground,

926
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: whose friend he knows his friend is up there, that

927
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 1: doesn't feel so great for his friend to go be

928
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 1: with Jesus, or for Jim's family. I get that. But

929
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: in life, if we could have from that perspective that

930
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: to live as Christ but to die is gain because

931
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: we get to go to be with him, it was

932
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: It's so exciting. I will definitely post a link in

933
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 1: the show notes and encourage all my listeners to go

934
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: listen to one, part one and part two, and I

935
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: just want to add this, everything I hoped would happen

936
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: up until that point did happen, you know, the things

937
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: that I was hoping my how it might end up resolving.

938
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 1: Part two was really incredible and I would love to

939
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: hear an update on that, So if you do want

940
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: to follow up episode on that, please do. There are

941
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: a couple other episodes and a few minutes we have

942
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: left a couple other things you guys have been up

943
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 1: to that I just want to touch on. I was

944
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: so moved by both the Ukrainian episode and the episode

945
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 1: where you're rebuilding all the churches in Sudan. First the

946
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: Ukrainian one, I was blown away just you know, because

947
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: we I think a lot of people over here were like,

948
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: we just don't want to hear any more news about that.

949
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 1: The Ukrainian you know, it's like it seems to be

950
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 1: old news. These people are still living in these realities.

951
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:16,439
Speaker 1: You interviewed Pastor Daniel there. His community has gone from

952
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: forty to twenty thousand, and one of the things he

953
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: talked about is most of the women and children have left.

954
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 1: Can you imagine not hearing children play can you. I mean, like,

955
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: I hear that literally all day. Sometimes I want to

956
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: quiet it down. But here's a community in this war

957
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: torn nation where they don't hear that anymore. And the

958
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: primary takeaway I had from that he said, they're steadfast.

959
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 1: They're not just resilient. He made that distinction because resilience

960
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: has the image of Okay, you get knocked down and

961
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: you get back up, but they really just stay steady

962
00:48:55,200 --> 00:49:00,919
Speaker 1: and stead fast. They're stayed regardless of what happened. Bad day.

963
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: They're steady. They're not on the ground, they're steady. Good day,

964
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: They're steady. And I was kind of amazed because they

965
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: shared some incredible stories. And one of the stories, well

966
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: actually told two stories, one of a family who had

967
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: been bombed and they survived. And then he told a

968
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: story of a young couple and I think her name

969
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: was Irena, I can't remember, but there was a young

970
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: couple and her husband. They were newly went the car

971
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: was hit by a drone and her husband died, but

972
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: somehow miraculously she survived and she doesn't hear well or

973
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,919
Speaker 1: see well. She was in the ICU, I think, he said,

974
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: for four months. But he talked about the goodness of

975
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 1: God in both of those stories, which was so remarkable,

976
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: and how they're steady and stayed and God is working.

977
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: And he said, this is what he said. I shared

978
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: two stories. One story sounds good, another story does not

979
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: sound good. But why do I share these two stories

980
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: all the time? God is faithful. The question is are

981
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 1: we faithful or not? And hearing that from someone who's

982
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: walking through these kinds of circumstances and these kinds of

983
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: journeys to have that kind of peace and steadfastness just

984
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:31,720
Speaker 1: ministered to me so much here halfway around the world.

985
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 1: And I thank you for bringing that to light because

986
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: we don't I think sometimes we want to tune out

987
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: when we hear about Ukraine again, because you know, the

988
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: war keeps going on, and we need to remember these

989
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: people are still suffering. They still need our prayers, and

990
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:49,839
Speaker 1: they still need our compassion and our love and the

991
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: ministry that you're bringing to them.

992
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

993
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 3: I know, Daniel was amazing, and I just yeah, I

994
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 3: think if shadrack me checking of Benugo, you know, going

995
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 3: into that fired they said, even I know my God

996
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 3: can save me, but even if not, you know, they

997
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 3: that even if not mentality, that is what these Ukrainians

998
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 3: are living with every single day. It's not just a

999
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 3: one time like chad Rak she got. And again not

1000
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 3: that I'm minimizing that instance. I don't know that I

1001
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 3: would go into the fiery furnace either. But it's not

1002
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 3: a one time.

1003
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:19,919
Speaker 2: Thing for them.

1004
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 3: It's every single in fact, every minute and in fact,

1005
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 3: you know, one church was bombed. When I was talking

1006
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 3: to Ryan Lanard, country director, it was bombed a couple

1007
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 3: hours before he came in, and he said, they didn't

1008
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,439
Speaker 3: call asking for anything. You know, he thought Ryan would

1009
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,760
Speaker 3: say what do you need? And they didn't want anything.

1010
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 3: They said, don't worry. Our basement wasn't destroyed. All of

1011
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 3: our supplies are there, will be doing our distributions today,

1012
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 3: you know, and it's just.

1013
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, you know, rather.

1014
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 3: Than oh no, how are we gonna worship? What are

1015
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 3: we going to do, it was don't worry. We still

1016
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 3: can serve the Lord today. And so I think I

1017
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 3: just it was so convicting.

1018
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 2: It is so.

1019
00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 1: Convicting, like if my church got bombed or something and

1020
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: in my house, you know, I don't think that I

1021
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,479
Speaker 1: don't think that would be my initial response. Don't worry

1022
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: We're still going to get our work done. I mean, like,

1023
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: that's their response.

1024
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 3: And sometimes I think, and I even share this with

1025
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 3: the kids, sometimes hearing those kind of things actually makes

1026
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 3: me kind of get a little depressed because I'm like,

1027
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 3: I am not that is not my response, you know,

1028
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,720
Speaker 3: and so I have to kind of shake myself and say, Okay,

1029
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:24,720
Speaker 3: I think it's.

1030
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 1: So good to hear these stories because we're like, it

1031
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 1: helps us when those momentary, light afflictions, which are a

1032
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: lot more momentary and a lot lighter in our part

1033
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: of the world for the most part, for the most part,

1034
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: when they come our way, we're like, we think of

1035
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: how they're overcoming those situations. It's it's really incredible, incredible.

1036
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 1: We we only have a few minutes left. And one

1037
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: of the two other things I wanted to talk to

1038
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 1: you about very quickly. I loved the episode on Sudan.

1039
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: I had no idea that that Smaritan's Purse was there

1040
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: rebuilding five one hundred churches. They'd all been bombed out,

1041
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: and it was kind of a vision of Ryan Boyett,

1042
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,439
Speaker 1: one of your workers there, and one of the things

1043
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 1: he talked about in doing that and just how these

1044
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: churches are such a symbol of hope, and they've been allowed.

1045
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 1: I think Franklin went to was it the president or

1046
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: someone he actually got permission. He asked them to rebuild

1047
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:26,919
Speaker 1: a church, and he said, no, we won't, but you can.

1048
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: And so he has been busy about rebuilding all five

1049
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 1: hundred churches that were destroyed. And I love what Ryan

1050
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: his insight into that. One of the things he said

1051
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: is that it's so great to be a part of

1052
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: something that cannot fail because it's God's work. It cannot fail.

1053
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: And so yeah, they might have momentary setbacks, there might

1054
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 1: be difficulties, but it cannot fail because it's not our work.

1055
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 1: It's not the work of our hands. We're just joining

1056
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 1: our hands to God's mighty hands, who is able to

1057
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,919
Speaker 1: accomplish this work. He's able to do exceeding abundantly above

1058
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: all that we could think are ask And so somehow

1059
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: all of these churches are being rebuilt. Uh, tell us

1060
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: a little bit about that, because that was so inspiring

1061
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 1: and encouraging.

1062
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is an incredible And again just to be

1063
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 3: reminded that these two countries, you know, have had such

1064
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 3: I mean they really no peace, no war. You know,

1065
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 3: there's always been conflict. And Ryan is incredible. He actually

1066
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 3: was a staff. He went over there with Samaritans Purse

1067
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 3: and then when the war got so bad, we had

1068
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 3: to evacuate because sometimes we do have to get you know,

1069
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 3: international staff out for it because it damages or harms

1070
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,399
Speaker 3: the people, the local people. So that was the case,

1071
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 3: and Ryan said, nope, I'm not leaving, and he stayed

1072
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:40,919
Speaker 3: and he married a Sudanese woman.

1073
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 2: So his his story is incredible.

1074
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 3: But he has just fallen in love with their you know,

1075
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,399
Speaker 3: the people there, and so that's why I think, yeah,

1076
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 3: he had such a passion, and Franklin too. But what's

1077
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Speaker 3: incredible about that is, yes, they've rebuilt five hundred physical churches,

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Speaker 3: and again these churches get involved, you know, they're helping

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Speaker 3: to build it. They have skin in the game. They

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Speaker 3: are really excited. But what's even more incredible was, you know,

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Speaker 3: Franklin said, we don't want to just build physical buildings.

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Speaker 3: We want to rebuild the pastors because so many pastors

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Speaker 3: were killed, and so for every pastor that was killed,

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Speaker 3: he wanted to train ten more pastors, you know, and

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Speaker 3: so there are two Bible colleges there that that train

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Speaker 3: these pastors. You know, hiband Bible College, and then there's

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Speaker 3: another one, and you know, just the discipleship and the

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Speaker 3: way that the church is not thwarted, you know. Again,

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Speaker 3: like we said with Ukraine, the physical churches were bombed

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Speaker 3: and lost and even people were killed, but it did

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Speaker 3: not dampen the flame. It only made it work, you know,

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Speaker 3: enlarged it. And I think there are so many pastors

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Speaker 3: and even some from Muslim communities that they will be persecuted,

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Speaker 3: you know, for becoming a pastor. They are they're not

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Speaker 3: afraid because they Jesus is enough. Again this and it

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Speaker 3: just comes out of all the It's funny how every

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Speaker 3: culture and context, the gospel's the same, the impacts the same.

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Speaker 2: You know, He is enough, he is worse.

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Speaker 3: And so we are just watching so many churches be revitalized,

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Speaker 3: yes physically, but more importantly spiritually they're growing and you know,

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Speaker 3: opposition cannot thwart the Church of Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 2: And so it's incredible.

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Speaker 1: And our timeline for our classical Christian education when we

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Speaker 1: get to we have Christian you know a lot of

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Speaker 1: biblical events with world events and this like one hundred

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Speaker 1: and seventy plus point timeline and it talks about how

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Speaker 1: persecution spread the gospel, that is, how the gospel originally spread,

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Speaker 1: and it still spreads today. God is greater than our enemy.

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Speaker 1: He who is within me is greater than he who

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Speaker 1: is in the world, and we see that time and

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Speaker 1: time again, and all of these dire situations, the one

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Speaker 1: last one I really wanted to talk to you about.

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Speaker 1: I loved this episode on the Great Commission is for

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Speaker 1: everyone because here we're talking about all these things in

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Speaker 1: Sudan and Ukraine and over and Kenya and around the world.

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Speaker 1: And I know a lot of listeners are probably like,

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Speaker 1: what does that have to do with me. Sure, I

1118
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: can maybe give a gift, maybe I can say a prayer,

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00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: I can listen to these stories and widen my perspective,

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Speaker 1: but how could I even get involved? And so that

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00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 1: episode you interviewed three different people. One of them was

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Speaker 1: an ICU nurse named Shannon, which I'm like, well, of

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Speaker 1: course you would expect someone like that to be a

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Speaker 1: part of these teams you call them dart teams, their

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Speaker 1: disaster assistants response teams. You would expect that. And I

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Speaker 1: loved her perspective. She was incredible, really incredible. But then

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Speaker 1: you interviewed a guy named Austin from Knoxville, just up

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Speaker 1: the road for me, who was a catering manager. Yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: like he cater's weddings. I was like, well, that hits

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Speaker 1: close to home. My husband's been in the food and

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Speaker 1: beverage industry for thirty years. I think a lot of

1132
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: us think, well, we can't do those sort of things, right,

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Speaker 1: Yes you can. There's actually a lot of team members

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Speaker 1: that you need that have very different skill sets. They

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00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 1: don't have to be medical. But he has been able

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Speaker 1: to work on these disaster assistants, response teams and minister

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Speaker 1: around the world. And his perspective was so incredible because

1138
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Speaker 1: he has a wife and young children. But he said,

1139
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: they bring them in on the journey and they don't

1140
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: say Daddy's leaving. They say Daddy is going on a mission.

1141
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 1: And that was incredible. And then the third guy you

1142
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Speaker 1: interviewed was someone who he said, if you ask me,

1143
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 1: I'm in charge of the wash, but really doing the

1144
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: wash is how I fulfill the great commission. Paraphrase that

1145
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: a little bit. But why don't we bring this home

1146
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 1: by talking about and maybe it'll be through Samaritans Purse,

1147
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 1: or maybe it will be through a local church ministry

1148
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: or something. But we're all called to take part in this.

1149
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Speaker 1: We're all called to do something, and you might not

1150
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: think you're equipped. You might think I'm a catering manager

1151
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Speaker 1: from Knoxville and I'm usually working on weddings. The cool parallel,

1152
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Speaker 1: he said, was and both the disaster response and at

1153
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 1: a wedding, you really don't have margin to get it wrong.

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00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 1: The very different and events, but they're pretty high intense

1155
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 1: events where you really need to get everything right. And

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Speaker 1: he talked about how they kind of compliment each other.

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Speaker 1: I thought that was it would have never occurred to me.

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Speaker 1: But whether you're an icy, you nurse, whether you wash

1159
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,919
Speaker 1: things for a living, or you're a catering manager, God

1160
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 1: has a call on each of our lives to take

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Speaker 1: part in the Great Commission. And I love that there

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00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: are probably opportunities maybe for people in the listening audience

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Speaker 1: to do that through Samaritan's Purse or through some other

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Speaker 1: local ministry that you have. My children are going back

1165
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Speaker 1: to Asia this summer, and I'm very excited of introducing

1166
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: them more and more to the work that you're doing.

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Speaker 1: Who knows, maybe I'll have a kid on one of

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Speaker 1: those dart teams or working with you full time at

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Speaker 1: some point, because they're definitely their interests lie and that direction.

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Speaker 1: But speaking to that in our closing moments.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that episode was incredible because it was

1172
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 3: the Body of Christ, right. I mean, with the Body Christ,

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00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 3: it says the eye isn't more important than the ear.

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Speaker 3: You know, every part of the body is necessary, and

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Speaker 3: I think that's what we see on a dart, but

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Speaker 3: it's also what we see within the local church, you know.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I wanted people to hear, Okay, yes you

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Speaker 3: can join the dart team and we would love to

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Speaker 3: have you. And we do need all specialties. I think, yeah,

1180
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Speaker 3: you just think of the medical.

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Speaker 2: But we need admin, we need food. You know, there's

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Speaker 2: just so many parts.

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Speaker 3: But I was trying to challenge people to look at

1184
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Speaker 3: home are where's your sphere of influence and where's the

1185
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 3: Lord placed you? You know, again, we often think we're

1186
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Speaker 3: not equipped, we have nothing to give, but you do one.

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Speaker 3: The ministry of presence is important, just spending time with people.

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Speaker 3: But a lot of times are our life experiences become

1189
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Speaker 3: our qualifications or what we've read in God's word. I mean,

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Speaker 3: so I just wanted to challenge people that, yes, no

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Speaker 3: matter what you do as your day job as a believer,

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Speaker 3: we all we all have the same calling right to

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Speaker 3: have compassion, to love the Lord your God with all

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Speaker 3: your heart, soul, mind, strength, and love your neighbors yourself.

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Speaker 3: So it was a challenge to love your neighbor well

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Speaker 3: wherever you are, you know, whether it's visiting a shut in,

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Speaker 3: you know, at a nursing home, or you know, there's

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Speaker 3: just we don't have to go leave to go serve.

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Speaker 3: We can do it in our own home. So that

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01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 3: was an incredible episode and I think it just showed

1201
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 3: again the importance of the Body of Christ that we

1202
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 3: all have.

1203
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Speaker 2: A part to play.

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Speaker 3: And I just want to close with Ephesians two ten

1205
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 3: because for people listening, you know, you, it says you

1206
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 3: are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do works

1207
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 3: which He has planned in advance for you to do.

1208
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Speaker 3: And I think that's something that we saw in that episode,

1209
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 3: was that God had works planned in advance for each

1210
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 3: of these people. And again it's just it just comes

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Speaker 3: out of being obedient, you know. Even Austin said his

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Speaker 3: coming into the service was during COVID when business was

1213
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Speaker 3: slow and it looked like a door was closed. He

1214
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 3: could have gotten really bitter and gotten upset, but instead

1215
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 3: he said, Lord, what do you have for me right now?

1216
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 3: This isn't a shut door, This is just a you know,

1217
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 3: you're in his heart. A man plans his course, but

1218
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Speaker 3: the Lord directs his steps of Proverbs sixty nine. And

1219
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Speaker 3: so I just encourage everybody listening. Let the Lord director steps.

1220
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Speaker 3: You know, don't get so set in your ways and

1221
01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 3: what you want to do and what you think you're

1222
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 3: good at. The Lord might have something else, maybe your pain,

1223
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 3: maybe something that you've been through is a source of

1224
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 3: ministry for someone else. So I think we limit ourselves

1225
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 3: sometimes for what God can do with us.

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Speaker 2: We just want so obedience. So that episode was incredible too.

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Speaker 2: I love it again. Every episode becomes my favorite.

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Speaker 1: I can totally see why.

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Speaker 3: As you're talking, I'm like, I got to go back

1230
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Speaker 3: and listen to those because they're really great.

1231
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I've listened to some of them multiple times in

1232
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 1: my car. Absolutely love them. And I was going to

1233
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 1: quote you there what you had said in that episode.

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Speaker 1: I think our life experiences are often our best qualifications

1235
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 1: for the future ministry God has for us, we just

1236
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 1: have to listen to that still small voice. We need

1237
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 1: to get quiet enough with the Lord and say, Okay, God,

1238
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 1: where do you want me to plug in? What do

1239
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 1: you want me to do? I think that I just

1240
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 1: have so many ideas after listening to all of these stories,

1241
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 1: and in particular just we both have kids, seniors that

1242
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 1: are graduating and looking at the lives the things that

1243
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 1: God is going to do our lives, and it's often

1244
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 1: not where we think it's gonna go, right, It really isn't.

1245
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 1: But God wants to use us somewhere some way to

1246
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 1: fulfill his call on our lives, which is part of

1247
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 1: the Great commission to spread the Gospel. I love that.

1248
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,480
Speaker 1: I want to quote. I found that quote from I

1249
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 1: think it was with it Ricky, I think was the

1250
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 1: He was the third person in that episode. He said,

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Speaker 1: if you asked me what I do, I would have

1252
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 1: to answer the wash. But really what I do is

1253
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 1: that Samaritans Purse helps me fulfill the Great Commission. And

1254
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 1: so whether it's you, guys, or your local church or

1255
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 1: some ministry that the Lord leads you to be a

1256
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 1: part of or start, Yeah, God has a plan and

1257
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 1: a call for each of us. So why don't you

1258
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 1: tell us where our listeners can hear your podcast and

1259
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 1: learn more about the great work that Samaritans Vers is

1260
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 1: doing around the world.

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Speaker 3: Well, the website Smartanspurse dot org is the best way

1262
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 3: to hear about what samaranspurs is doing. And then our

1263
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 3: podcast you can find on any anywhere anywhere that you

1264
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:00,480
Speaker 3: like to stream, Apple, Spotify. It's on the ground with

1265
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 3: Smeariton's Purse. And again, we just want to take you

1266
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 3: to the front lines and around the world and show

1267
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 3: you what God is doing. So we'd love to have

1268
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Speaker 3: you join us there.

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Speaker 1: And you do it so so well. So well, I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan. This is this is truly. I've

1271
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Speaker 1: got a few things on my regular playlist and this

1272
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 1: is this is one of them. Some of the stuff

1273
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 1: on my playlist is just for me, you know, or

1274
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 1: me and my husband might listen to it, but this

1275
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 1: one's this one really works for the whole family, and

1276
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 1: not many things do that. Yeah, So, Baby Boomers to

1277
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 1: Jen Alpha, you love Cover the Gamut. So thank you

1278
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 1: so much for being with us again. This has been

1279
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Speaker 1: delightful and truly this is my new favorite, my new

1280
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Speaker 1: favorite podcast. Yeah.

1281
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Speaker 2: Well, I enjoyed it too.

1282
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 3: I needed you, you encouraged me, so thank you for

1283
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 3: thank you this time.

1284
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 2: I appreciate it.

1285
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Speaker 1: Thank you, And I'll link all of those episodes in

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Speaker 1: the show note, but just go to On the Ground

1287
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Speaker 1: with Samaritans first and you'll see them all for yourselves.

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Speaker 1: You guys have some of the best summaries on your

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Speaker 1: website too, because I was going through after I listened

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Speaker 1: to him, just kind of recapping it, and you've got

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Speaker 1: all the great quotes in there, so definitely avail yourself

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Speaker 1: of that. So thank you so much, Christy.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Catherine. It's great to see you. You do.

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Speaker 2: Talk to you again soon, hopefully.

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Speaker 1: Yes, moms and dads, as parents, we have such a

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Speaker 1: unique opportunity to shape not just what our kids know,

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Speaker 1: but how they see the world in their place in

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Speaker 1: God's story. Resources like On the Ground with Samaritan's Purse

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Speaker 1: reminds us that faith is bigger. It's so much bigger

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Speaker 1: than our homes, bigger than our routines. It is global,

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Speaker 1: it's active, and it's alive. Bringing these kinds of stories

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Speaker 1: into our homes and into our cars and into our earbuds,

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Speaker 1: it helps our kids develop compassion and courage, and a

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Speaker 1: deeper understanding of what it means to follow Christ wherever

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Speaker 1: He leads, because we are all called to fulfill the

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Speaker 1: great commission. So lean into conversations like these, listen together,

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Speaker 1: talk about what you're learning, Let it stretch your family's

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Speaker 1: faith and vision for what God can do in and

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Speaker 1: through them. And as always, remember God gave you your kids,

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Speaker 1: your specific kids for a reason. That's because you hold

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Speaker 1: the key to unlocking God created them to be. We'll

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Speaker 1: see you next time, Christian parent.

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