WEBVTT - Timeless Wisdom: Weekend Torah Teaching - Genesis 3 

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Timeless Wisdom with Dennis Prager. Here thousands of

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<v Speaker 2>Ongoing Study of Genesis. We have reached all the way

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<v Speaker 2>to chapter three, so you've only missed two chapters. I

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<v Speaker 2>hope that, my regular class, that you brought some Bibles

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<v Speaker 2>with you. If not, I will read the sentences anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's not a worry one second. Please, I'm I

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<v Speaker 2>announced that after don't forget in the midst of the

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<v Speaker 2>drama of Genesis. Yes, just a.

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<v Speaker 3>H okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Now last week, no last section whenever. That was two

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<v Speaker 2>weeks ago. That's right, two weeks ago. You recall the

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<v Speaker 2>creation of women took place. By the way, I think

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<v Speaker 2>some A word about a subject that is often raised

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<v Speaker 2>is do Genesis one and Genesis two have different creation accounts?

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<v Speaker 2>This is one of the bases by which people frequently

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<v Speaker 2>speak of the what's called a documentary hypothesis.

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<v Speaker 3>Who wrote the Torah is.

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<v Speaker 2>A is one of the great ongoing riddles of both

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<v Speaker 2>religious and non religious people. I don't have an answer

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<v Speaker 2>to that, as I've often said I am intellectually open

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<v Speaker 2>to whatever scholars show me. At the same time, I

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<v Speaker 2>treat it as if it's divine, So there I allow

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<v Speaker 2>my intellect free reign. My intellect is always open to

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<v Speaker 2>reading what scholars write. On the other hand, I do

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<v Speaker 2>not close my religious soul to the divinity of the text.

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<v Speaker 2>I found music is the best analogy that I can give,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've given it frequently because I love music and

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<v Speaker 2>it's helpful. I do not find that I enjoy music

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<v Speaker 2>more the more I study about modulations of keys and

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<v Speaker 2>the use of triads and so on and various works.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a given point I found others may not

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<v Speaker 2>where in my study of music, I enjoyed the music

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<v Speaker 2>less the more I studied how it was written, that

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<v Speaker 2>I ended up seeing e flat instead of hearing a

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<v Speaker 2>gorgeous melody that happened to me. It may not happen

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<v Speaker 2>to you, but it can happen to people. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>afraid that a lot of scholars of Bible see all

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<v Speaker 2>the notes but don't hear the music. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>know the notes, but I am more interested in the

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<v Speaker 2>final analysis in the music. Do Genesis wanted to conflict

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so. To the modern mind, we write

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<v Speaker 2>stories as follows and January eighth, the following happened on

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<v Speaker 2>January tenth, This happened in February, the following happened, and

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<v Speaker 2>we go on.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how we moderns write. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no problem with that, But that's not how

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<v Speaker 2>the Torah was written. But whether it is by God

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<v Speaker 2>or by man, that is not how people wrote in

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<v Speaker 2>the ancient world. It was stories without chronological interest. Generally speaking,

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<v Speaker 2>they would give the story and if they had another

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<v Speaker 2>version of the story. Whereas our mind says, look two

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<v Speaker 2>stories that contradict each other.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not how they thought.

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<v Speaker 2>They said, Wait a minute, reality has a great many

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<v Speaker 2>angles to it in some ways, that's more sophisticated. Wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>you think that it would be interesting to read I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know about the assassination of Abraham Lincoln.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's say, and you read it, you read three stories

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<v Speaker 3>about it.

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<v Speaker 2>They each accentuated different details, Lincoln's perspective, John Wilkes booth perspective,

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<v Speaker 2>the country's perspective, just to make up three. Wouldn't that

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<v Speaker 2>be an interesting way of reading about it? I think

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<v Speaker 2>it would illuminate more. But then somebody will say, uh huh.

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<v Speaker 2>You see it couldn't have happened the way it was written,

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<v Speaker 2>because one story gives you this perspective and another gives

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<v Speaker 2>you this. For example, in one case it says, and

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<v Speaker 2>God created Adam male and female.

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<v Speaker 3>He created them.

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<v Speaker 2>Then in the next one you have God created Adam,

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<v Speaker 2>and how is the woman? She doesn't get a name yet,

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<v Speaker 2>how is the woman created? It was created by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>as I pointed out, from his side, not from his

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<v Speaker 2>rib from his side. So people say, you see, it's contradictory,

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<v Speaker 2>But why is that contradictory? One statement is I want

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<v Speaker 2>you to know God, or the author capital a smole

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<v Speaker 2>A is saying, I want you to know that the

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<v Speaker 2>human being is a full human, that there are male

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<v Speaker 2>humans and there are female humans, and they are absolutely equal.

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<v Speaker 2>Now in chapter two, I'll give you the details of

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<v Speaker 2>how it happened. There are scholars who say, you see,

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<v Speaker 2>it's contradictor which one do we listen to? One or

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<v Speaker 2>two shows that there are two different versions here. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't read it that way. It's not a defense of

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<v Speaker 2>the text so much that I'm making as a defense

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<v Speaker 2>of a sophisticated idea that you can get the story

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<v Speaker 2>and you can have two different perspectives, but they're not

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<v Speaker 2>contradictory in any way. Number If number one had said,

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<v Speaker 2>if chapter one had said God created Adam male and female,

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<v Speaker 2>he created them, and he created them at the exact

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<v Speaker 2>same moment, and he never took her from his side,

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<v Speaker 2>and then chapter two said that, you know what, Adam

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<v Speaker 2>was created and then the woman was created from his side.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know what, we have a contradiction. Otherwise, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't see it as a contradiction. Thanks Ron, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>see it as a contradiction. Just as more information. Remember,

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<v Speaker 2>Torah means teacher. It does not mean history. Torah means

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<v Speaker 2>it comes from the Hebrew verb lejorote, which is to teach.

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<v Speaker 2>If you look at it that way, I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>a much better way of understanding what's going on. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>The last thing we learned in chapter two is that.

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<v Speaker 3>Adam and his.

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<v Speaker 2>Wife were naked, but they weren't embarrassed by the fact.

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<v Speaker 2>Who is not embarrassed by nudity? The answer is, kids,

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<v Speaker 2>what I said last week and will very very basically recapitulate,

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<v Speaker 2>is I think you have in the story of the

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<v Speaker 2>Garden of Eden, and I have always believed this. I

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<v Speaker 2>think you have the story in the garden of Eden

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<v Speaker 2>of every.

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<v Speaker 3>One of us.

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<v Speaker 2>Every one of us starts out in the garden of Eden,

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<v Speaker 2>and we grow up. However, a lot of people want

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<v Speaker 2>to stay in the garden of Eden. A lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people don't want to grow up. In fact, the more

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<v Speaker 2>I grow up or the older I get, some will

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<v Speaker 2>debate whether I grow up that much. That's a separate issue.

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<v Speaker 2>You already heard I was controversial. But the more I

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<v Speaker 2>do get older, the more I realize that that's what

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<v Speaker 2>life is about.

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<v Speaker 3>Growing up.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course is every one of us who is

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<v Speaker 2>an adult knows. But this is one of the great

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<v Speaker 2>secrets that children don't know, is that getting older and

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<v Speaker 2>growing up have little to do with each other. It

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<v Speaker 2>is one of the you know what I knew I

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<v Speaker 2>was an adult when I met immature fifty year old,

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<v Speaker 2>because when you're a kid, you just think, oh, fifty

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<v Speaker 2>forty thirty, they're adults, they're mature because they got older.

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<v Speaker 2>And then as you get older, you realize that's not

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<v Speaker 2>true at all. There are people who never grow up,

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<v Speaker 2>who don't want to grow up. That's the Peter Pan

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<v Speaker 2>legend if you will. Women accuse a lot of men

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<v Speaker 2>of doing that, for which reason a lot don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to commit, because commitment takes it For men, in particular,

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<v Speaker 2>an active of renunciation of part of their childishness, of

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<v Speaker 2>gallivanting around the world as a kid forever, wandering from

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<v Speaker 2>flower to flower. It's not I'm using a be analogy. Please,

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<v Speaker 2>it was. Take it as an insult to women who

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<v Speaker 2>be compared to flowers. But that's really what is involved

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<v Speaker 2>in life, I am convinced is the act of growing up,

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<v Speaker 2>and growing up means shedding a lot of the innocence

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<v Speaker 2>it does. It's shedding innocence. It doesn't mean becoming coarse,

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<v Speaker 2>you can do that when you shed innocence, but it

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<v Speaker 2>does mean shedding the innocence of our childhood.

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<v Speaker 1>This episode of Timeless Wisdom will continue right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to more of Dennis Brager's Timeless Wisdom.

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<v Speaker 2>They were naked and didn't even know it. They weren't

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<v Speaker 2>embarrassed by it at all. Everything was natural. They had

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<v Speaker 2>no pain, they had no suffering, and as I pointed

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<v Speaker 2>out last time, they were bored out of their mind.

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<v Speaker 2>That is what I believe the text is in the

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<v Speaker 2>final analysis, really wanting to tell us that if we

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<v Speaker 2>could have a beautiful, beautiful life freed of all pain

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<v Speaker 2>in the garden of Eden, or know it all, really

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<v Speaker 2>have it all in the sense of understanding the nitty

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<v Speaker 2>gritty of life with the ultimate nitty gritty, the sexual

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<v Speaker 2>nitty gritty, we would opt for the pain and growing

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<v Speaker 2>up and non innocence over no pain and innocence. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what we would do. That's what I think. The story

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<v Speaker 2>is here to tell us not so much that Adam sinned,

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<v Speaker 2>though that is an element obviously, but rather that this

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<v Speaker 2>is what it is to be human. Listen, the only

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<v Speaker 2>thing that Adam was told not to do. It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>He could do anything he wanted except one thing. Eat

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<v Speaker 2>from the Tree of knowledge of good and bad. It's

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<v Speaker 2>the only thing he couldn't do. And lo and behold,

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<v Speaker 2>it's exactly what he did, by the way, which proves

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<v Speaker 2>that eating from the tree is not what gave man

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<v Speaker 2>the ability to choose between right and wrong. We had

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<v Speaker 2>that ability prior to eating from the tree. What there was, however,

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<v Speaker 2>was a contradistinction between two trees, the tree of knowledge

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<v Speaker 2>of good and bad and the tree of life. And basically,

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<v Speaker 2>what God is saying, and what the text is saying,

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<v Speaker 2>is this, human beings, you have your choice. You can

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<v Speaker 2>eat from the tree of immortality, or you can eat

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<v Speaker 2>from the tree of knowledge of good and bad. But

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<v Speaker 2>you can't eat from both. You want to be immortal, fine,

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead, but you cannot then be fully human. You

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<v Speaker 2>want to be fully human, then you die. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>God said. You eat from that tree and you'll die, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So that brings us to chapter three. Chapter three begins

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<v Speaker 2>with the serpent being declared or the snake, or the

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<v Speaker 2>serpent being declared the most cunning of all the animals,

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<v Speaker 2>of all the wild animals that God made. And he

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<v Speaker 2>said to said to the woman, which is interesting in

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<v Speaker 2>and of itself. This whole thing, by the way, is

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<v Speaker 2>very difficult stuff. That's why, as I pointed out when

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<v Speaker 2>I first gave it, I waited a long time to

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<v Speaker 2>teach this. I have taught Deuteronomy, I have taught Exodus,

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<v Speaker 2>and I would never touch the beginning chapters of Genesis.

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<v Speaker 2>It's still it's still in some ways puzzling, But I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to sort out the puzzle with you. Well, first

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<v Speaker 2>of all, why is the serpent used clearly. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how clearly is appropriate a word. But what we

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<v Speaker 2>have here again, and those of you who have been

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<v Speaker 2>taking this with me, no much of the beginning of

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<v Speaker 2>Genesis is to destroy polytheism. It's to destroy the gods

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<v Speaker 2>of the of ancient human beings, of ancient man. One

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<v Speaker 2>of them was the serpent. The serpent was a very

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<v Speaker 2>revered symbol, as you can see in almost all ancient pictures.

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<v Speaker 3>God uses the serpent.

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<v Speaker 2>Here to chastise him, just as by the way, all

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<v Speaker 2>the ten, well nine of the ten plagues against the

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<v Speaker 2>Egyptians were against Egyptian gods. The first plague was against

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<v Speaker 2>the Nile, which was an Egyptian god.

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<v Speaker 3>It was turned to blood.

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<v Speaker 2>The ninth plague was against Ra, the sun god darkness.

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<v Speaker 2>What most Jews and non Jews do not realize about

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<v Speaker 2>Judaism is that its real intent was to destroy Polytheism,

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<v Speaker 2>is to destroy the worship of false gods. We have

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<v Speaker 2>plenty of false gods today. But that brings me to

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<v Speaker 2>an entirely different subject, which you can get it right

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<v Speaker 2>outside the room afterwards. But in the meantime, this issue

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<v Speaker 2>here is the destruction of false gods. One of them

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<v Speaker 2>here being the serpent. Okay, so the serpent speaks to

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<v Speaker 2>the woman. First question is why didn't the serpent speak

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<v Speaker 2>to man? Good question, isn't it? Why didn't the serpent

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<v Speaker 2>go to the man? Why did the serpent go to

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<v Speaker 2>the woman? I don't have a complete answer, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>the sort of question that makes reading this stuff come alive.

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<v Speaker 2>When I learned this stuff as a kid in Yeshiva,

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<v Speaker 2>that was the way we were taught to learn, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's been the greatest, single, greatest vehicle of learning in

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<v Speaker 2>my life. I read newspaper, articles, books and Torah in

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<v Speaker 2>that way. Why did the author say X? And not?

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<v Speaker 2>Why why didn't the serpent go to Adam? Well, you

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<v Speaker 2>could have any number of thoughts that could come to

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<v Speaker 2>the mind. First is he thought he'd have a better

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<v Speaker 2>chance with the woman. I think that that's the most

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<v Speaker 2>obvious answer that one might say. Is that a put

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<v Speaker 2>down of women, that women are more easily talked into

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<v Speaker 2>the wrong thing? Well, I don't think so, in light

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<v Speaker 2>of how of what was done with Adam. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>when you will see how Adam got to eat from

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<v Speaker 2>that tree, you can truly leave that text saying men

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<v Speaker 2>are silly putty. I mean nothing in comparison to what

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<v Speaker 2>the woman he put up no fight whatsoever is you'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm not sure it's a statement that women are

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<v Speaker 2>more easily changed or persuaded to do the wrong thing.

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<v Speaker 2>What might have been is she was not instructed Adam was.

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<v Speaker 2>She got it second hand. That's what I think is

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<v Speaker 2>going on here, Rather than so much that the woman

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<v Speaker 2>is a more persuadable creature than the man. That might

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<v Speaker 2>be it might have been an element. I don't deny it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think the more obvious thing is God's instruction

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<v Speaker 2>of not eating from the tree of knowledge of good

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<v Speaker 2>and bad was given to Adam. It was not given

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<v Speaker 2>to his wife. I'm not saying e because we don't

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<v Speaker 2>know her as yet. That's the reason I'm not. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not giving her the name yet. That's my that's my suspicion.

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<v Speaker 2>So the serpent speaks to her, and I'll read to

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<v Speaker 2>you from the English translation I have, which is, none

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<v Speaker 2>of them are great, they're just relatively good. And the

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<v Speaker 2>uh and he said to the woman yep.

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<v Speaker 3>Well it doesn't say yep, mind says yay.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I prefer yep yea yay half God said, didn't

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<v Speaker 2>God say you shall not eat of any tree of

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<v Speaker 2>the garden?

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<v Speaker 3>Already?

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<v Speaker 2>This is really it's priceless. It is just priceless. The

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<v Speaker 2>serpent is a major liar. He goes to the woman,

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<v Speaker 2>or it goes to the woman and says, hey, didn't

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<v Speaker 2>didn't God say you can't eat of any tree? He's

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<v Speaker 2>totally made up. Do you see the what the serpent

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<v Speaker 2>is trying to do here? If he would have said,

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<v Speaker 2>if the serpent would have said what God really said,

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<v Speaker 2>she wouldn't have been persuaded because she would have realized

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<v Speaker 2>how reasonable God's demand was. But the serpent makes up something.

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<v Speaker 2>Why did God say eat of all the trees? He

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<v Speaker 2>actually said that God eat of all the trees except

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<v Speaker 2>for one. Here comes the serpent and says, hey, didn't

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<v Speaker 2>God say don't eat from every tree in the garden?

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<v Speaker 2>Totally inverted what God had said. People do that all

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<v Speaker 2>the time. In order to get people to do something wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>to violate a law, they will exaggerate what the laws

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<v Speaker 2>are to make them seem absurd. So he's delegitimizing already.

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<v Speaker 2>That's another reason, by the way, that I believe that

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<v Speaker 2>the serpent went to the woman and not Adam, because

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<v Speaker 2>she didn't hear the actual directions, but rather he did

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<v Speaker 2>so he could confuse the serpent can confuse her. So

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<v Speaker 2>didn't God say, you can't eat from all the trees

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<v Speaker 2>of the garden. So verse two, and the woman said

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<v Speaker 2>to the serpent, of the fruit of the trees of

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<v Speaker 2>the garden we can eat. But of the fruit of

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<v Speaker 2>the tree which is in the midst of the garden,

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<v Speaker 2>God said, do not eat of it, neither touch it,

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<v Speaker 2>lest you die. Okay, she got it all wrong. The

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<v Speaker 2>only part she got right was that God said you

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<v Speaker 2>eat of all the trees. Why did she get wrong?

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<v Speaker 2>Anybody realized what she got wrong? Why did she say

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<v Speaker 2>here that has nothing to do with what God instructed touching?

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<v Speaker 2>He never said don't touch it. She got it all wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like telephone. What we have here is that proverbial

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<v Speaker 2>game of telephone, wherein I tell you something, you tell

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<v Speaker 2>somebody else something, and by the end of it it

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<v Speaker 2>is unrecognizable all God said. God really is getting a

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<v Speaker 2>bad rap here. He sounds like he's a jerk. The

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<v Speaker 2>serpent makes them sound like a jerk, and so does

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<v Speaker 2>the woman. Don't touch it all he said was don't

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<v Speaker 2>eat of it, and the serpent says, you can't do

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<v Speaker 2>it of any of the trees. So God gets a

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<v Speaker 2>bad rap, as it were. Now, Also, I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>an answer for this, but there's a very interesting thing here.

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<v Speaker 2>She said the tree in the middle of the garden.

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<v Speaker 2>Why didn't she say the tree of knowledge of good

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<v Speaker 2>and bad? Interesting, isn't it? Because I'll tell you why

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<v Speaker 2>it's interesting. If you look at verse chapter two, verse nine,

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<v Speaker 2>the tree that is described as in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>the garden is the tree of life. I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>an answer to that, but you have to admit that

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<v Speaker 2>that's pretty interesting. The words cannot have been, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>erroneously thrown in it's they're too precise. The tree of knowledge,

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<v Speaker 2>the tree of life is described.

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<v Speaker 3>As the tree in the middle of the garden.

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<v Speaker 2>And now she's telling the serpent we can't eat or

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<v Speaker 2>touch of the tree in the middle of the garden.

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<v Speaker 2>So she got it all wrong. She identified the tree wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>She said that we can't touch it, and the serpent

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<v Speaker 2>got wrong. As I said in his original question.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, this episode of Timeless Wisdom will continue right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to more of Dennis prager's timeless wisdom.

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<v Speaker 2>Next verse number were three. But of the fruit of

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<v Speaker 2>the tree, which is in the midst of the garden,

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<v Speaker 2>God said, do not eat of it, nor touch it,

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<v Speaker 2>lest you diverse four. And the serpent said to the woman,

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<v Speaker 2>you won't surely die.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that's interesting. I wonder how he knew. I'm very serious.

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<v Speaker 2>It is an interesting question. How did he know that?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have an answer, but you gotta admit it

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<v Speaker 2>does make it. Serpents sound fairly impressive. Maybe that's why

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<v Speaker 2>it's called the most cunning of the animals. Who knows,

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe he figured it out. What exactly will happen? Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what he says. For God knows that the day

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<v Speaker 2>you eat of it, your eyes will be opened, and

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<v Speaker 2>you'll be like God, knowing good and evil. This is

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<v Speaker 2>very heavy stuff. Okay, what is the serpent doing here?

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<v Speaker 2>The serpent is doing something critically important for us. Remember,

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<v Speaker 2>you got to read it always. What do I learn

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<v Speaker 2>from this? Or you're not understanding what the thing was

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<v Speaker 2>written for? What whom is the serpent now blaming for

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<v Speaker 2>this law?

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<v Speaker 3>God?

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<v Speaker 2>The serpent is doing a very interesting thing. He's saying

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<v Speaker 2>to her, you got this law from God because God

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<v Speaker 2>needs the law, not because you do. Is that clear

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<v Speaker 2>to you? He's saying. The serpent is saying, he's afraid

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<v Speaker 2>the day you eat it, you'll be like him. You'll

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<v Speaker 2>know good and evil just like God knows. So he's afraid.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why he gave you the law. Miss That's what

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<v Speaker 2>the serpent is saying. If you would understand that, then

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<v Speaker 2>you would realize it's not for your sake. I can't

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<v Speaker 2>tell you how important this is, because a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people think that laws, religious laws are given for God's sake,

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<v Speaker 2>and that immediately renders them. I believe unworthy of being followed.

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<v Speaker 2>Every law, any religious law, to be worth its salt,

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<v Speaker 2>has to be given.

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<v Speaker 3>For our benefit, not for God's benefit.

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<v Speaker 2>If you are told in Judaism to keep the Sabbath,

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<v Speaker 2>you are not told to keep the Sabbath for God's sake.

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<v Speaker 2>You are told to keep it for your sake. God

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<v Speaker 2>can't be made happy or sad, as it were, through

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<v Speaker 2>a law. They are given for us. This law was

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<v Speaker 2>given for us, not for God's sake. But the serpent

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<v Speaker 2>turns it around. He is worried if you do this,

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<v Speaker 2>So the law's not for you, madam, it's for God.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you know why it begins verse one, and the

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<v Speaker 2>serpent was very cunning. Now you realize how inverted everything is.

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<v Speaker 2>First it gives you a ridiculous law, don't eat from

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<v Speaker 2>any of the tree trees. Then he gives you. Then

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<v Speaker 2>when we understand the real law he gave you, it's

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<v Speaker 2>obvious that it's solely given for God's sake, not for

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<v Speaker 2>your own.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, what does knowing good and bad mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Or good and evil? What is the tree of knowledge

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<v Speaker 2>of good and evil mean? The more that I have

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<v Speaker 2>delved into this, the more and the more I look

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<v Speaker 2>at where tov varah, good and bad are listed together

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<v Speaker 2>as a unit in the Bible, it generally means everything,

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<v Speaker 2>knowledge of everything. In other words, for we have it

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<v Speaker 2>in English where we would say, well, you know, he knows,

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<v Speaker 2>he knows the pros and the cons. If you know

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<v Speaker 2>the pros and the cons of something, you really know it. Well, right,

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<v Speaker 2>you got to know both sides. That's what it really means,

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<v Speaker 2>knowing both sides. That's a that would be the tree

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<v Speaker 2>of knowledge of both sides would probably be the most

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<v Speaker 2>accurate translation, not literally accurate, but in explaining what it's

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<v Speaker 2>what it involves. So it's the tree of knowledge of

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<v Speaker 2>everything of both sides. You will know, you will know

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<v Speaker 2>them if you eat there now.

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<v Speaker 3>Verse six.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, by the way, just I'm sorry, I'm five. We

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<v Speaker 2>have here a classic presentation of the way all of

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<v Speaker 2>us tend to do what's wrong. First we would overstate

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<v Speaker 2>the prohibition, then knock the motives of the pro of

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<v Speaker 2>whoever prohibited it, and then realize and then say, I

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<v Speaker 2>won't really suffer from it. It's almost like, for example,

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<v Speaker 2>with drugs. With narcotics, people will say people who will

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<v Speaker 2>use it will say, well, you know, they just banned.

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<v Speaker 2>The government bans everything. This is just another thing that

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<v Speaker 2>they're banning. Number two, why do they knock it? Because

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<v Speaker 2>they want to deprive me of real freedom. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>for my sake, it's for the government's sake to have

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<v Speaker 2>more power or whatever the reason might be.

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<v Speaker 3>And Third, if I take.

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<v Speaker 2>It, I'm not going to really suffer from it, whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it is that is. We often use that type of

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<v Speaker 2>argument to enable ourselves to do something wrong. That's exactly

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<v Speaker 2>what happens here verse six. And when the woman saw

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<v Speaker 2>that the tree was good for food, that it was

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<v Speaker 2>a delight to the eyes, and that it was desired

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<v Speaker 2>to make one wise. She took of the fruit and

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<v Speaker 2>ate for the next part. It's a very interesting thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that we have here a very.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting assessment of the woman. The woman is tempted in

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<v Speaker 2>every way. She's tempted by her eyes, she's tempted by

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<v Speaker 2>her appetite, and she's tempted by her mind. That's very important,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that in some ways it makes her

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<v Speaker 2>look a lot better.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't merely wow.

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<v Speaker 2>And she was convinced by the serpent, and it looked good,

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<v Speaker 2>and she ate no. She thought about it. She looked

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<v Speaker 2>at it after hearing the arguments, and one of the

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<v Speaker 2>arguments for doing it. And you know the word seiko.

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<v Speaker 2>That word is here las guille to become sensical, to

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<v Speaker 2>become sensed wise. That's the word that is used. That

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<v Speaker 2>was one of the three things that appealed to her.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you something. If something appeals to your eyes,

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<v Speaker 2>your appetite, and your mind, that's the triple threat. As

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<v Speaker 2>they say, it is very hard to say no to

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<v Speaker 2>one of them, let alone to all three of them.

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<v Speaker 3>Who would you.

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<v Speaker 2>With the promise that you actually might know everything as

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<v Speaker 2>a result, you wouldn't eat of it. It's an interesting question.

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<v Speaker 2>I think what the text is saying here. Please understand

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<v Speaker 2>why the woman was tempted. Okay, now she took of

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<v Speaker 2>it and she ate. I find this all so impressive

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<v Speaker 2>on her part. After all, you figure she could have

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<v Speaker 2>said to herself, maybe we will die when we eat it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll give it to my husband first, right, he'll be

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<v Speaker 2>my official taster. Doesn't say that she took it. In

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<v Speaker 2>other words, she's stuck by her convictions. If I am

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<v Speaker 2>gonna eat, if I am gonna do it, I will

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<v Speaker 2>eat first. And it says she took from its fruit

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<v Speaker 2>and she ate.

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<v Speaker 3>She didn't die.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, remember it's remember God said when you eat from it,

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<v Speaker 2>you'll die. She obviously didn't die, so she can only

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<v Speaker 2>conclude the serpent's right.

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<v Speaker 3>That's interesting, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>I totally understand why would she would give it to

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<v Speaker 2>her husband after that?

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<v Speaker 3>It makes perfect sense. The serpent seems to have.

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<v Speaker 2>Turned out right. I didn't die. My eyes are opening.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing's delicious. I'm getting wiser and wiser and newter

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<v Speaker 2>and neuter by the moment. And that's terrific too, because

0:28:19.020 --> 0:28:24.540
<v Speaker 2>sex before nudity was very boring. And here we go.

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<v Speaker 2>So what happens. It's the end of that. And she

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<v Speaker 2>also gave to the man with whom she.

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<v Speaker 3>Was and he ate. Okay, now you have to admit.

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<v Speaker 2>That she comes out somewhat more impressive than he does. Here,

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<v Speaker 2>that was it. The serpent goes through this whole routine.

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<v Speaker 2>You will be wise. God is wrong. Don't you want

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<v Speaker 2>to know everything? She looks at the tree. It's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>She'll get wiser a whole thing. And with him he adam, Here,

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<v Speaker 2>here's an apple.

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<v Speaker 1>This episode of timeless Wisdom will continue right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to more of Dennis Prager's timeless wisdom.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, now this is This is a very interesting thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It really is. It's actually a puzzle to me how

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<v Speaker 2>easily he ate? What is one to conclude from this?

0:29:35.219 --> 0:29:39.779
<v Speaker 2>There were two possibilities only either he knew what it

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<v Speaker 2>was a fruit from the tree of knowledge of everything,

0:29:45.060 --> 0:29:47.780
<v Speaker 2>or he didn't know what it was. Now we don't

0:29:47.820 --> 0:29:50.779
<v Speaker 2>know that doing it's a very interesting thing. It doesn't

0:29:50.820 --> 0:29:53.380
<v Speaker 2>say she didn't say, here, look, this is from the

0:29:53.380 --> 0:29:56.140
<v Speaker 2>tree of knowledge of good and bad. You'll love it.

0:29:56.580 --> 0:29:58.940
<v Speaker 2>I ate from it and look at me, I'm I'm

0:29:58.979 --> 0:30:03.259
<v Speaker 2>happy and alive, and the serpent's doing a beautiful dance

0:30:03.300 --> 0:30:06.380
<v Speaker 2>and we're all thrilled. Nothing like that happened. She just

0:30:06.420 --> 0:30:10.900
<v Speaker 2>said here, did he know? It's a very I don't

0:30:10.900 --> 0:30:12.819
<v Speaker 2>have the answer to that, but it occurred to me

0:30:13.020 --> 0:30:15.860
<v Speaker 2>studying this that that's a real question. Did he know

0:30:15.979 --> 0:30:20.580
<v Speaker 2>what he was eating? We we don't know. For shoe,

0:30:21.020 --> 0:30:26.219
<v Speaker 2>it looked different from any of the other fruit. So

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<v Speaker 2>now there are two possibilities. If he knew what it was,

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<v Speaker 2>why did he eat? Okay, on the assumption that he

0:30:37.900 --> 0:30:40.620
<v Speaker 2>knew it was from the forbidden tree, which God himself

0:30:40.620 --> 0:30:44.620
<v Speaker 2>had forbidden Adam, why did he eat from it? I

0:30:44.620 --> 0:30:48.940
<v Speaker 2>don't have an answer except to say, possibly that he

0:30:49.020 --> 0:30:53.940
<v Speaker 2>had total trust in her, or he was totally controlled

0:30:53.979 --> 0:30:56.620
<v Speaker 2>by her. It was very possible. We don't, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>psychologically or however.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>But if he didn't know what it was, it is

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<v Speaker 2>fascinating that he took it so easily, no questions, nothing,

0:31:09.380 --> 0:31:12.099
<v Speaker 2>What if he didn't know what it was. If he

0:31:12.180 --> 0:31:15.779
<v Speaker 2>didn't know what it was, then she is an sob

0:31:18.180 --> 0:31:21.819
<v Speaker 2>see that that's important. If he didn't know what it was,

0:31:22.300 --> 0:31:25.100
<v Speaker 2>she tricked him.

0:31:25.300 --> 0:31:27.339
<v Speaker 3>Is that right 'tis a fruit.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's a fascinating issue which maybe more years of

0:31:33.500 --> 0:31:36.060
<v Speaker 2>study will lead me to one conclusion or the other.

0:31:36.979 --> 0:31:39.580
<v Speaker 2>I have to believe. Please hold it because I want

0:31:39.580 --> 0:31:41.140
<v Speaker 2>to go through. Do write it down though I want

0:31:41.140 --> 0:31:44.620
<v Speaker 2>to take questions later. Please don't forget it, and any

0:31:44.660 --> 0:31:46.700
<v Speaker 2>of you, if you have anything to say, please write

0:31:46.739 --> 0:31:48.459
<v Speaker 2>it down because I want to take stuff later. I

0:31:48.500 --> 0:31:50.860
<v Speaker 2>just don't want to stop in the middle. But that's

0:31:51.260 --> 0:31:55.420
<v Speaker 2>a very tough issue. My suspicion is he knew what

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<v Speaker 2>it was. The reason I do is because God wouldn't

0:32:00.180 --> 0:32:03.979
<v Speaker 2>have punished him. Otherwise God only would have punished her,

0:32:04.459 --> 0:32:07.299
<v Speaker 2>if punishment is a correct term. And last week I

0:32:07.380 --> 0:32:09.700
<v Speaker 2>noted that I don't fare if he didn't know what

0:32:09.739 --> 0:32:12.620
<v Speaker 2>it was, how could he be held culpable. So my

0:32:12.780 --> 0:32:15.979
<v Speaker 2>suspicion is he knew what it was. And look, his

0:32:16.020 --> 0:32:21.180
<v Speaker 2>wife's chewing Adam here. She's not dying, she's loving it.

0:32:22.180 --> 0:32:24.980
<v Speaker 2>And uh, I guess that's why he did it.

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<v Speaker 3>He was he was somewhat.

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<v Speaker 2>Malleable when God was talking to him. He was very

0:32:30.860 --> 0:32:33.380
<v Speaker 2>influenced by God. When his wife was talking to him,

0:32:33.380 --> 0:32:36.380
<v Speaker 2>he was very influenced by his wife. Adam basically was

0:32:36.420 --> 0:32:37.700
<v Speaker 2>whoever got to me last?

0:32:38.100 --> 0:32:38.820
<v Speaker 3>I listened to.

0:32:38.820 --> 0:32:48.780
<v Speaker 2>Him next verse and the eyes of them both were opened,

0:32:49.580 --> 0:32:54.780
<v Speaker 2>and they knew that they were naked. Now that is fascinating.

0:32:55.100 --> 0:32:57.620
<v Speaker 2>That is about as fascinating a verse as exists in

0:32:57.660 --> 0:33:02.660
<v Speaker 2>the torum. You know, you're imagine it's your first time

0:33:02.700 --> 0:33:05.900
<v Speaker 2>reading the text. I would think that the single most

0:33:06.020 --> 0:33:09.739
<v Speaker 2>curious thing in your mind, the thing you're most curious

0:33:09.780 --> 0:33:13.100
<v Speaker 2>over is what'll they learn when they eat from the

0:33:13.180 --> 0:33:16.019
<v Speaker 2>tree of knowledge of good and bad? Right to me,

0:33:16.180 --> 0:33:20.580
<v Speaker 2>that's the suspense of the story, not what'll happened to them? Well, yeah,

0:33:20.700 --> 0:33:22.820
<v Speaker 2>wattle happened to them, but not in the sense will

0:33:22.820 --> 0:33:25.860
<v Speaker 2>God kill them? But wattle happened to them. What will

0:33:25.900 --> 0:33:30.740
<v Speaker 2>be different? One thing, and only one thing is mentioned.

0:33:31.660 --> 0:33:37.660
<v Speaker 2>They discover sexuality. They knew sex. They had to have

0:33:37.739 --> 0:33:41.660
<v Speaker 2>known intercourse because they were told to be fruitful and multiply,

0:33:42.380 --> 0:33:45.020
<v Speaker 2>and that was the only way to do it. By

0:33:45.060 --> 0:33:48.180
<v Speaker 2>the way, it's a fascinating question to be able to

0:33:48.219 --> 0:33:54.700
<v Speaker 2>have intercourse without really knowing sexuality. Now animals do it though,

0:33:55.620 --> 0:34:00.660
<v Speaker 2>so an effect what they had I assume was intercourse

0:34:00.979 --> 0:34:05.940
<v Speaker 2>Allah animals, wherein you did it? It was one of

0:34:05.979 --> 0:34:09.580
<v Speaker 2>the pleasurable acts of your life. But animals don't go

0:34:09.700 --> 0:34:14.100
<v Speaker 2>around embarrassed at their nudity. It's just one of the

0:34:14.140 --> 0:34:16.819
<v Speaker 2>acts that they perform in order to procreate the species.

0:34:17.340 --> 0:34:19.899
<v Speaker 2>Was that what sex was like prior to eating from

0:34:19.940 --> 0:34:23.219
<v Speaker 2>the tree of Knowledge? I don't think there's an answer, obviously,

0:34:23.660 --> 0:34:27.540
<v Speaker 2>but it is interesting they learned their naked In other words,

0:34:27.620 --> 0:34:33.020
<v Speaker 2>they learned the sexy side and the naughty side of sex,

0:34:34.020 --> 0:34:37.700
<v Speaker 2>the bad side, the top side, because there are a

0:34:37.739 --> 0:34:42.900
<v Speaker 2>lot of sides to sex. As that great.

0:34:45.380 --> 0:34:46.339
<v Speaker 3>He just was killed.

0:34:46.380 --> 0:34:51.340
<v Speaker 2>He was a UCLA professor of psychiatry. Stolar Robert Stoler

0:34:52.500 --> 0:34:55.980
<v Speaker 2>wrote a book called Sexual Excitement. I think he was

0:34:56.020 --> 0:35:00.939
<v Speaker 2>one of the leading psychiatric thinkers human thinkers of our time.

0:35:00.980 --> 0:35:04.260
<v Speaker 2>He was killed by a speeding kid driver a couple

0:35:04.299 --> 0:35:08.940
<v Speaker 2>of months ago, and it's really it's an unbelievable loss

0:35:10.140 --> 0:35:14.100
<v Speaker 2>at any rate. Stoler wrote in this book, he wrote real,

0:35:14.540 --> 0:35:18.420
<v Speaker 2>which is why he was controversial. He actually wrote about reality.

0:35:19.339 --> 0:35:22.700
<v Speaker 2>And he wrote at the end of one chapter, I

0:35:22.779 --> 0:35:26.020
<v Speaker 2>never memorized books. I can't. I mean, I never rememorized lines.

0:35:26.739 --> 0:35:30.580
<v Speaker 2>That's not my gift to memorize. But I committed to

0:35:30.700 --> 0:35:36.060
<v Speaker 2>memorization the last two lines of one of his chapters.

0:35:36.100 --> 0:35:39.500
<v Speaker 2>One of the pre eminent psychiatrists in the world. He

0:35:39.620 --> 0:35:44.980
<v Speaker 2>was writing on male female love making, and he said,

0:35:45.140 --> 0:35:50.380
<v Speaker 2>let me see if I remember. I don't remember it exactly.

0:35:50.739 --> 0:35:52.780
<v Speaker 2>See that I committed two lines to memory and forgot

0:35:52.819 --> 0:35:55.700
<v Speaker 2>one of them, but I remember the second. The first

0:35:55.739 --> 0:36:02.419
<v Speaker 2>line was something to the effect of when people when

0:36:02.500 --> 0:36:10.580
<v Speaker 2>people have sex, it is not frequently love making too bad.

0:36:12.100 --> 0:36:15.380
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, in the scientific treatise about human beings,

0:36:15.739 --> 0:36:19.620
<v Speaker 2>you don't expect the writer to write too bad as

0:36:19.700 --> 0:36:23.779
<v Speaker 2>the end of the chapter. But what he was pointing out,

0:36:23.819 --> 0:36:25.860
<v Speaker 2>which I think a lot of us like to deny

0:36:26.100 --> 0:36:32.340
<v Speaker 2>in our desire to romanticize life, is the non loving

0:36:32.460 --> 0:36:38.180
<v Speaker 2>element of sex, which is a very powerful part of it.

0:36:38.299 --> 0:36:41.980
<v Speaker 2>After all, you love your child, you love your parents,

0:36:42.060 --> 0:36:45.339
<v Speaker 2>you love maybe a cousin or a friend, but you

0:36:45.380 --> 0:36:47.259
<v Speaker 2>don't want to make love to them. If it were

0:36:47.339 --> 0:36:51.020
<v Speaker 2>only love, then we would be making love to all

0:36:51.060 --> 0:36:53.219
<v Speaker 2>the people we love or want to make love to them,

0:36:53.420 --> 0:36:57.219
<v Speaker 2>but we don't. And you know how powerful non sexual

0:36:57.259 --> 0:37:01.060
<v Speaker 2>love is. You have it for your children. That's very powerful,

0:37:01.060 --> 0:37:06.740
<v Speaker 2>at least when they're young. And just joking, just joking,

0:37:08.259 --> 0:37:12.019
<v Speaker 2>and so you know the power of non sexual love.

0:37:14.060 --> 0:37:18.020
<v Speaker 2>Clearly sex is a lot more and often not even

0:37:18.180 --> 0:37:22.300
<v Speaker 2>about love. There can be very unloved having powerful sex.

0:37:22.980 --> 0:37:26.899
<v Speaker 2>And that's a very powerful force that was unleashed when

0:37:26.940 --> 0:37:30.219
<v Speaker 2>they did this, And that really, in effect is what

0:37:30.299 --> 0:37:36.819
<v Speaker 2>divides us from our innocent child childhood from adulthood. That

0:37:37.020 --> 0:37:41.419
<v Speaker 2>divides everybody that you can't help that you simply grow

0:37:41.460 --> 0:37:43.700
<v Speaker 2>into an understanding of those differences.

0:37:44.700 --> 0:37:45.620
<v Speaker 3>So that's the.

0:37:45.660 --> 0:37:51.540
<v Speaker 2>Thing they learned. They were no longer innocent, and we

0:37:51.620 --> 0:37:54.459
<v Speaker 2>all know what innocent means, and it has to do

0:37:55.100 --> 0:38:01.140
<v Speaker 2>with that big dragon in our lives which concerns our sexuality.

0:38:01.700 --> 0:38:07.739
<v Speaker 2>So what did they do. They immediately made for them

0:38:07.940 --> 0:38:11.900
<v Speaker 2>fig leaves and made them into in modern Hebrew, it's' belts.

0:38:12.540 --> 0:38:14.940
<v Speaker 2>But the assumption is that they were wider than belts

0:38:15.020 --> 0:38:18.460
<v Speaker 2>what they made for themselves. So it says, I have

0:38:18.580 --> 0:38:25.219
<v Speaker 2>here girdles. Translation is anybody aprons coverings? They're all good? Okay?

0:38:27.700 --> 0:38:30.259
<v Speaker 2>Was mini skirt? Is that what I heard from their numbers?

0:38:30.540 --> 0:38:32.660
<v Speaker 2>Wouldn't that be funny? And she made for herself a

0:38:32.779 --> 0:38:47.260
<v Speaker 2>mini skirt all right? Next next verse, and they heard

0:38:47.299 --> 0:38:50.899
<v Speaker 2>the voice of God of the Lord God walking in

0:38:50.940 --> 0:38:53.420
<v Speaker 2>the garden toward the cool of the day or the

0:38:54.500 --> 0:38:58.020
<v Speaker 2>spirit of the day, might even be better. Actually, I

0:38:58.060 --> 0:39:00.379
<v Speaker 2>think than cool of anybody have spirit of the day

0:39:01.779 --> 0:39:05.939
<v Speaker 2>or what wind of the day? Breezy time. Yeah, I

0:39:06.060 --> 0:39:09.060
<v Speaker 2>have not figured out why that was thrown in. It

0:39:09.140 --> 0:39:11.140
<v Speaker 2>might have meant more to the ancients than to us

0:39:11.219 --> 0:39:17.419
<v Speaker 2>those words. And Adam and his wife hid themselves from

0:39:17.420 --> 0:39:20.380
<v Speaker 2>the presence of God amongst the trees of the garden.

0:39:21.859 --> 0:39:26.580
<v Speaker 2>Which is almost funny to hide yourself among trees from God,

0:39:27.060 --> 0:39:31.419
<v Speaker 2>but they did. And God called out to Adam. Now

0:39:31.420 --> 0:39:33.379
<v Speaker 2>why did God call out to Adam and not both

0:39:33.380 --> 0:39:36.459
<v Speaker 2>of them? Because it was to Adam that he gave

0:39:36.500 --> 0:39:37.660
<v Speaker 2>the instructions.

0:39:37.700 --> 0:39:38.380
<v Speaker 3>God's fair.

0:39:39.380 --> 0:39:42.460
<v Speaker 2>And he says, and this is the number of rabbinic

0:39:42.500 --> 0:39:46.540
<v Speaker 2>sermons given on this verse could fill the Encyclopedia Judaica.

0:39:47.140 --> 0:39:50.299
<v Speaker 2>And God said to Adam, where art thou?

0:39:50.500 --> 0:39:51.140
<v Speaker 3>Where are you?

0:39:51.779 --> 0:39:51.979
<v Speaker 2>Now?

0:39:52.060 --> 0:39:54.299
<v Speaker 3>Of course, why do rabbis love to.

0:39:54.219 --> 0:39:57.780
<v Speaker 2>Make a sermon on that sentence, because obviously God knows

0:39:57.779 --> 0:40:01.540
<v Speaker 2>where Adam is. So the question is not for God's sake,

0:40:01.940 --> 0:40:05.100
<v Speaker 2>it's for our sake. Where are you?

0:40:05.100 --> 0:40:06.539
<v Speaker 3>You got to know where you are?

0:40:06.660 --> 0:40:14.219
<v Speaker 2>God knew where he was obviously anyway, So he answers,

0:40:14.299 --> 0:40:16.820
<v Speaker 2>I heard your voice in the garden, and I got

0:40:17.259 --> 0:40:22.819
<v Speaker 2>scared because I am naked, and I to which God said,

0:40:22.859 --> 0:40:26.219
<v Speaker 2>who told you your naked? That's really it's priceless. I

0:40:26.259 --> 0:40:30.020
<v Speaker 2>love this. You didn't happen to have eaten from that

0:40:30.940 --> 0:40:34.140
<v Speaker 2>tree that I told you not to eat from, by

0:40:34.219 --> 0:40:42.459
<v Speaker 2>any chance, So Adam said, well, in fact I did.

0:40:42.980 --> 0:40:45.380
<v Speaker 3>So what does Adam say?

0:40:45.500 --> 0:40:49.140
<v Speaker 2>This is one of my favorite lines in the entire Bible.

0:40:51.739 --> 0:40:57.620
<v Speaker 3>This woman you gave me. I didn't ask for the apple.

0:40:57.700 --> 0:41:00.100
<v Speaker 2>I didn't ask for the woman. Get the hell out

0:41:00.140 --> 0:41:05.500
<v Speaker 2>of here. Isn't that a riot? It's absolutely funny. I

0:41:05.620 --> 0:41:07.180
<v Speaker 2>did I ask for this woman.

0:41:07.739 --> 0:41:09.779
<v Speaker 3>You gave it to me, and she got me to

0:41:09.819 --> 0:41:12.779
<v Speaker 3>do it. That is why it's so priceless.

0:41:13.100 --> 0:41:16.180
<v Speaker 2>It's not only shifting blame to her. Is she shouldn't

0:41:16.219 --> 0:41:21.219
<v Speaker 2>have been born. It's worse than blaming her, it's blaming

0:41:21.420 --> 0:41:24.620
<v Speaker 2>he was blaming God. If you didn't make her, I

0:41:24.739 --> 0:41:27.899
<v Speaker 2>promise you I never would have eaten from that tree.

0:41:28.020 --> 0:41:29.819
<v Speaker 3>And he's right, he got a hand it to him.

0:41:30.060 --> 0:41:32.580
<v Speaker 2>A monkey could not have convinced him to eat from

0:41:32.580 --> 0:41:39.980
<v Speaker 2>the tree. So this woman that you made that's what

0:41:40.100 --> 0:41:43.740
<v Speaker 2>I love. It's God's fault. You know, there are people,

0:41:43.900 --> 0:41:46.219
<v Speaker 2>you know, I get angry at people, you know, blaming

0:41:46.259 --> 0:41:49.780
<v Speaker 2>government for their problems. This is the ultimate. It's God's fault.

0:41:52.500 --> 0:41:53.940
<v Speaker 2>She is the one who gave me an i ate.

0:41:54.100 --> 0:41:57.779
<v Speaker 2>So God said, now, by the way, it's interesting here.

0:41:58.779 --> 0:42:02.420
<v Speaker 2>They all tell the truth. When God asked the questions,

0:42:02.460 --> 0:42:04.700
<v Speaker 2>they all tell the truth. Did he not tell the truth?

0:42:04.779 --> 0:42:06.980
<v Speaker 2>The woman who you made gave me an i ate?

0:42:08.180 --> 0:42:11.700
<v Speaker 2>Is that absolute true? That's why God doesn't respond anymore.

0:42:12.900 --> 0:42:15.499
<v Speaker 2>He got the truth from Adam, so fine. He knows

0:42:15.540 --> 0:42:17.859
<v Speaker 2>it's true. It's a very interesting thing. So he goes

0:42:17.859 --> 0:42:20.819
<v Speaker 2>to the woman who was whom he made. And so

0:42:20.859 --> 0:42:22.620
<v Speaker 2>God says to the woman, what'd you do?

0:42:23.299 --> 0:42:26.020
<v Speaker 3>What did you do? I don't think He said, what

0:42:26.140 --> 0:42:28.180
<v Speaker 3>you do? What did you do?

0:42:30.620 --> 0:42:37.060
<v Speaker 2>And the woman said, the serpent tricked me and I ate?

0:42:38.339 --> 0:42:39.739
<v Speaker 2>Is that true?

0:42:40.420 --> 0:42:42.259
<v Speaker 3>Yes? It is true?

0:42:43.020 --> 0:42:48.339
<v Speaker 2>Huh yeah, So God again, it's very They all tell

0:42:48.339 --> 0:42:52.700
<v Speaker 2>God that you listen, the serpent trick. Nobody takes responsibility.

0:42:52.739 --> 0:42:55.339
<v Speaker 2>I mean, their character I won't speak about. But at

0:42:55.420 --> 0:42:58.459
<v Speaker 2>least they told the truth. You know, you can imagine

0:42:58.700 --> 0:43:00.819
<v Speaker 2>Adam could have said, gee, I didn't know it was

0:43:00.859 --> 0:43:02.899
<v Speaker 2>that apple. That is another reason, by the way, that

0:43:02.980 --> 0:43:05.739
<v Speaker 2>I believed that he knew what he was eating, since

0:43:05.859 --> 0:43:08.580
<v Speaker 2>with God roaming, he could have easily said.

0:43:09.299 --> 0:43:10.019
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know.

0:43:10.100 --> 0:43:14.339
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was from the Tree of the life

0:43:14.660 --> 0:43:18.340
<v Speaker 2>right or any other tree. But he didn't. He told

0:43:18.380 --> 0:43:20.500
<v Speaker 2>the truth. He was too scared to lie. Perhaps or

0:43:20.700 --> 0:43:23.300
<v Speaker 2>given credit, he told the truth. He told the truth,

0:43:23.339 --> 0:43:26.660
<v Speaker 2>and he said what it was. So I think we

0:43:26.700 --> 0:43:30.739
<v Speaker 2>can infer from that she didn't trick him. It was

0:43:30.779 --> 0:43:33.340
<v Speaker 2>simply her presence. I think he told the whole truth

0:43:33.339 --> 0:43:35.899
<v Speaker 2>and nothing but the truth. The woman gave it to

0:43:35.940 --> 0:43:40.980
<v Speaker 2>me and I ate. Okay, she said the serpent tricked me,

0:43:41.700 --> 0:43:45.140
<v Speaker 2>which is true. It's not the whole truth because she

0:43:45.219 --> 0:43:48.419
<v Speaker 2>knew what she was doing at any rate. But he

0:43:48.460 --> 0:43:52.660
<v Speaker 2>did trick her, at least that's her perception. Let's put

0:43:52.660 --> 0:43:55.980
<v Speaker 2>it this way, that the serpent misled her into believing,

0:43:56.380 --> 0:43:59.660
<v Speaker 2>into getting confused, and she ate. So God doesn't say

0:43:59.660 --> 0:44:02.259
<v Speaker 2>another word to her, just like God didn't say another

0:44:02.299 --> 0:44:07.419
<v Speaker 2>word to Adam. So God goes to the serpent, and

0:44:07.580 --> 0:44:10.820
<v Speaker 2>notice this is verse fourteen. He doesn't ask the serpent

0:44:10.859 --> 0:44:16.180
<v Speaker 2>the single question, because what's the serpent going to say,

0:44:17.100 --> 0:44:20.460
<v Speaker 2>who's the serpent gonna blame it on? There's nobody left.

0:44:22.660 --> 0:44:23.819
<v Speaker 3>It's interesting, isn't it.

0:44:24.060 --> 0:44:27.780
<v Speaker 2>That's why God didn't say to the serpent, and why

0:44:27.819 --> 0:44:31.780
<v Speaker 2>did you do it? So God says to the serpent,

0:44:31.859 --> 0:44:35.499
<v Speaker 2>because you did this, you will be cursed from of

0:44:35.700 --> 0:44:37.259
<v Speaker 2>all most pursed.

0:44:36.900 --> 0:44:41.339
<v Speaker 3>Of all the animals that exist.

0:44:41.580 --> 0:44:44.859
<v Speaker 2>You will crawl, you will walk on your belly, and

0:44:45.020 --> 0:44:47.500
<v Speaker 2>you will eat dust all the days.

0:44:47.259 --> 0:44:48.500
<v Speaker 3>Of your life.

0:44:49.580 --> 0:44:54.820
<v Speaker 2>I think clearly was to d de deify the serpent,

0:44:55.580 --> 0:44:57.779
<v Speaker 2>which is what I spoke about in all of Genesis.

0:44:58.620 --> 0:45:01.620
<v Speaker 2>And then fifteen, I will put enmity between you and

0:45:01.660 --> 0:45:04.819
<v Speaker 2>the woman and between your seed and her seed. This

0:45:04.900 --> 0:45:10.819
<v Speaker 2>is clearly an anti pagan polemic, wherein the mixture of

0:45:10.859 --> 0:45:15.020
<v Speaker 2>the human and the animal in Paganism was very great.

0:45:15.500 --> 0:45:19.340
<v Speaker 2>This is a total separation. Human is human, serpents are serpent.

0:45:19.380 --> 0:45:25.700
<v Speaker 2>There is no relationship in any way. And you'll be,

0:45:26.060 --> 0:45:31.980
<v Speaker 2>you will be. They'll bruise your head, that you serpent,

0:45:32.219 --> 0:45:36.540
<v Speaker 2>and you'll bruise their heel. Okay, Then to the woman, sixteen,

0:45:37.620 --> 0:45:40.500
<v Speaker 2>I will greatly multiply your pain and your travail and

0:45:40.580 --> 0:45:42.299
<v Speaker 2>pain you will bring forth children.

0:45:43.580 --> 0:45:44.459
<v Speaker 3>That's part one.

0:45:44.700 --> 0:45:48.460
<v Speaker 2>Now, very interesting thing here is I will multiply your pain.

0:45:48.500 --> 0:45:51.539
<v Speaker 2>In other words, she had pain for childbirth from Eden.

0:45:52.700 --> 0:45:55.620
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't say, now you will give birth and pain.

0:45:56.259 --> 0:45:59.779
<v Speaker 2>I will multiply what already exists. That that's an interesting

0:45:59.819 --> 0:46:02.620
<v Speaker 2>point that I don't think a lot of people realize

0:46:02.620 --> 0:46:05.739
<v Speaker 2>that there was pain and child birth originally. According to

0:46:05.779 --> 0:46:09.740
<v Speaker 2>the Genesis story, what happens is it will be multiplied. Okay,

0:46:09.819 --> 0:46:12.580
<v Speaker 2>now you know sex, now you know life. So I'm

0:46:12.620 --> 0:46:14.980
<v Speaker 2>not going to protect you. What God is really saying

0:46:15.100 --> 0:46:18.900
<v Speaker 2>is if you want knowledge of everything man and woman, okay,

0:46:19.100 --> 0:46:20.500
<v Speaker 2>but don't ask for my protection.

0:46:21.219 --> 0:46:22.780
<v Speaker 3>You want life on its terms.

0:46:22.980 --> 0:46:26.580
<v Speaker 2>Here you are? Are you with me? My friends? This

0:46:26.700 --> 0:46:31.660
<v Speaker 2>is critical. That's what really happened. God softened life for

0:46:31.819 --> 0:46:35.700
<v Speaker 2>us till we said, in effect, no, I want it all.

0:46:35.779 --> 0:46:39.099
<v Speaker 2>I want to know it all. And therefore, if that's

0:46:39.140 --> 0:46:40.900
<v Speaker 2>the case, God removes protection.

0:46:41.060 --> 0:46:42.140
<v Speaker 3>That's why we get mortal.

0:46:42.219 --> 0:46:44.700
<v Speaker 2>We get pained, we get hurt from each other, we

0:46:44.739 --> 0:46:47.700
<v Speaker 2>get hurt from nature, we get hurt from childbirth. We

0:46:47.779 --> 0:46:51.140
<v Speaker 2>in effect opted for that. Remember it does not say

0:46:51.140 --> 0:46:53.700
<v Speaker 2>and God said I'm going to punish you. The word

0:46:53.779 --> 0:46:56.660
<v Speaker 2>punished does not occur here, but it did occur with

0:46:56.739 --> 0:47:01.420
<v Speaker 2>the serpent, and it does occur with Adam. The woman

0:47:01.700 --> 0:47:06.820
<v Speaker 2>does not have the word curse. The serpent is cursed

0:47:07.259 --> 0:47:12.019
<v Speaker 2>to travel on his belly. Man has cursed earth, you'll

0:47:12.020 --> 0:47:14.500
<v Speaker 2>see in a moment, but the woman does not have

0:47:14.580 --> 0:47:18.579
<v Speaker 2>anything cursed. This is the consequence of what you did,

0:47:19.299 --> 0:47:23.740
<v Speaker 2>much more than it is punishment. The problem comes next.

0:47:24.580 --> 0:47:28.020
<v Speaker 2>What else will be the result of this leaving of

0:47:28.219 --> 0:47:33.020
<v Speaker 2>Eden as it were? And your desire will be to

0:47:33.259 --> 0:47:38.100
<v Speaker 2>your man or your husband, and he will rule over you. Now,

0:47:38.140 --> 0:47:41.779
<v Speaker 2>this is an interesting and very difficult segment, which does

0:47:41.819 --> 0:47:47.660
<v Speaker 2>not please feminists, but the point is free shows that

0:47:47.700 --> 0:47:53.099
<v Speaker 2>the original intent was that man and woman be totally equal, right,

0:47:54.380 --> 0:47:59.020
<v Speaker 2>which is exactly what existed beforehand. But now you have

0:47:59.460 --> 0:48:02.860
<v Speaker 2>you have, I have removed that element of my protection

0:48:02.980 --> 0:48:05.820
<v Speaker 2>as I just spoke about, and I'm gonna let nature

0:48:06.259 --> 0:48:09.219
<v Speaker 2>go its merry way. That means you have pain and

0:48:09.339 --> 0:48:13.660
<v Speaker 2>child birth, men will be dominant, But that doesn't mean

0:48:13.700 --> 0:48:17.739
<v Speaker 2>that that's God's will. You are not subverting God God's

0:48:17.779 --> 0:48:22.299
<v Speaker 2>will if you take if you take a painkiller for childbirth,

0:48:24.100 --> 0:48:26.060
<v Speaker 2>and you are not subverting God's will. If you have

0:48:26.100 --> 0:48:29.660
<v Speaker 2>an equal relationship with your husband. This is not saying,

0:48:29.660 --> 0:48:32.700
<v Speaker 2>and this is my desire that women suffering childbirth and

0:48:32.739 --> 0:48:33.700
<v Speaker 2>men rule over them.

0:48:34.500 --> 0:48:36.019
<v Speaker 3>That is not what I stated here.

0:48:37.540 --> 0:48:41.140
<v Speaker 2>It's simply saying that now that natural forces will go,

0:48:41.620 --> 0:48:44.459
<v Speaker 2>this is what will happen. But by the way, to

0:48:44.500 --> 0:48:48.620
<v Speaker 2>a certain extent there is that is what it is about.

0:48:49.060 --> 0:48:52.980
<v Speaker 2>In most cultures men have dominated women, which is not

0:48:53.100 --> 0:48:55.620
<v Speaker 2>something to be proud of. It's simply a fact of life.

0:48:56.100 --> 0:48:58.540
<v Speaker 2>But just as we can have painkillers, we can have

0:48:58.620 --> 0:49:03.779
<v Speaker 2>inequality killers. Right, the two of them are very allowable.

0:49:05.020 --> 0:49:08.099
<v Speaker 2>The other part is the tougher part, that you will

0:49:08.140 --> 0:49:12.899
<v Speaker 2>your desire, your yearning will be for your husband. This

0:49:13.700 --> 0:49:18.340
<v Speaker 2>part is much less easily subverted than the male ruling

0:49:18.700 --> 0:49:26.580
<v Speaker 2>and childbirth pain. Yearnings are not nearly as easily destroyed

0:49:27.299 --> 0:49:35.259
<v Speaker 2>as are inequalities and physical pains, and that yearning does exist.

0:49:36.339 --> 0:49:38.419
<v Speaker 2>My argument here would be that this is in a

0:49:38.460 --> 0:49:42.299
<v Speaker 2>slightly different category, much more of the unchangeable, though people

0:49:42.380 --> 0:49:44.899
<v Speaker 2>will want to change it. That's why get you see

0:49:44.940 --> 0:49:48.259
<v Speaker 2>all these books in bookstores of yes you can live

0:49:48.299 --> 0:49:50.939
<v Speaker 2>without a man, Yes you are something without a man,

0:49:51.060 --> 0:49:53.580
<v Speaker 2>Yes you don't need a man, and so on. There

0:49:53.700 --> 0:49:56.899
<v Speaker 2>is in many women nothing exists for all but in

0:49:56.940 --> 0:50:01.500
<v Speaker 2>many women. In most women a deep yearning for a man.

0:50:02.259 --> 0:50:04.779
<v Speaker 2>Now you say, well, isn't there deep yearning in men

0:50:04.859 --> 0:50:07.100
<v Speaker 2>for a woman? As I said when I gave a

0:50:07.140 --> 0:50:10.860
<v Speaker 2>course on this, it's a slightly different yearning. Women yearn

0:50:11.020 --> 0:50:15.180
<v Speaker 2>a man and men yearn for women. They're not the

0:50:15.299 --> 0:50:18.420
<v Speaker 2>exact same yearning. Don't yell at me for this, Okay,

0:50:18.500 --> 0:50:21.379
<v Speaker 2>I am the bearer of bad tidings, is not the

0:50:21.460 --> 0:50:25.259
<v Speaker 2>creator of the problem. Uh. That doesn't mean that men

0:50:25.339 --> 0:50:28.419
<v Speaker 2>cannot grow into that yearning. But that is a good

0:50:28.540 --> 0:50:32.940
<v Speaker 2>yearn If women didn't yearn for a man, men wouldn't marry.

0:50:34.219 --> 0:50:35.460
<v Speaker 3>You don't have any book.

0:50:35.580 --> 0:50:39.620
<v Speaker 2>Go to any bookstore and find me any book. And

0:50:40.339 --> 0:50:43.660
<v Speaker 2>they write books on anything. Anything that'll sell they write on.

0:50:44.739 --> 0:50:47.540
<v Speaker 2>You will never find the book how to get her

0:50:47.660 --> 0:50:58.300
<v Speaker 2>to commit? Why not? There is book after book after

0:50:58.460 --> 0:51:02.380
<v Speaker 2>book about getting him to commit? Why men don't commit?

0:51:02.420 --> 0:51:05.700
<v Speaker 2>The Peter Pan complex. Why isn't there?

0:51:05.779 --> 0:51:06.259
<v Speaker 3>What was there?

0:51:06.420 --> 0:51:09.299
<v Speaker 2>What was the why is there? The tinker Bell complex?

0:51:09.940 --> 0:51:11.899
<v Speaker 2>There should be one. There should be about women who

0:51:11.940 --> 0:51:16.620
<v Speaker 2>won't commit? Right are women who leave? Why they have

0:51:16.779 --> 0:51:19.499
<v Speaker 2>men who leave women and women who love them? There's

0:51:19.580 --> 0:51:23.980
<v Speaker 2>no book men who leave? No there isn't there is

0:51:24.020 --> 0:51:25.660
<v Speaker 2>book men to leave women and women who love them?

0:51:25.660 --> 0:51:27.140
<v Speaker 2>Why is there women who leave men and men who

0:51:27.140 --> 0:51:31.220
<v Speaker 2>love them? It happens, But that's not the issue.

0:51:31.299 --> 0:51:33.499
<v Speaker 3>That yearning is actually a good thing.

0:51:33.779 --> 0:51:37.739
<v Speaker 2>One of us better yearn or we won't ever cement,

0:51:38.420 --> 0:51:42.660
<v Speaker 2>we'll never stick together. That yearning is critical, but it

0:51:42.739 --> 0:51:46.180
<v Speaker 2>is the cause of great pain to a woman. And

0:51:46.259 --> 0:51:49.899
<v Speaker 2>by the way, that is also a statement. Remember man's

0:51:50.020 --> 0:51:55.460
<v Speaker 2>problem here becomes Man's consequence of eating is macro or macro.

0:51:56.219 --> 0:52:04.540
<v Speaker 2>Women's consequence is micro. Notice that micro is the personal

0:52:05.180 --> 0:52:09.620
<v Speaker 2>that's where women specialize. Doesn't mean they're only interested any

0:52:09.620 --> 0:52:11.700
<v Speaker 2>more than men are not only interested in the macro.

0:52:12.100 --> 0:52:13.980
<v Speaker 2>But as a talk show host for ten years, I

0:52:13.980 --> 0:52:17.060
<v Speaker 2>can tell you when I discuss micro topics on my

0:52:17.140 --> 0:52:22.780
<v Speaker 2>list is Linda, Jenny, bar and when I talk macro,

0:52:22.940 --> 0:52:28.779
<v Speaker 2>it's Ira, Tom and Joe. Because that's where they specialize.

0:52:28.779 --> 0:52:32.180
<v Speaker 2>That's why you go the old There is truth to

0:52:32.219 --> 0:52:35.299
<v Speaker 2>it that when you go to a party, men will

0:52:35.339 --> 0:52:40.219
<v Speaker 2>talk about sports, stocks, investments, and politics. Women will talk

0:52:40.219 --> 0:52:44.660
<v Speaker 2>about real life. That's why I prefer women's discussions at parties.

0:52:46.060 --> 0:52:48.979
<v Speaker 2>The macro stuff, I mean, it comes out of my ears.

0:52:48.980 --> 0:52:51.219
<v Speaker 2>I do it for a living. I rather talk about

0:52:51.259 --> 0:52:53.420
<v Speaker 2>the nitty gritty of life, the real things.

0:52:54.180 --> 0:52:56.259
<v Speaker 3>But that really is what you have here.

0:52:56.700 --> 0:53:03.100
<v Speaker 2>Her consequences are micro, his consequences are macro. The consequences

0:53:03.100 --> 0:53:10.499
<v Speaker 2>of his eating from the tree are in verse seventeen.

0:53:10.580 --> 0:53:13.460
<v Speaker 2>And to Adam, he said, because you hearkened into the

0:53:13.540 --> 0:53:16.779
<v Speaker 2>voice of your wife, in other words, as opposed to

0:53:16.940 --> 0:53:21.299
<v Speaker 2>hearken to mine. His punishment isn't because he listened to

0:53:21.339 --> 0:53:24.419
<v Speaker 2>his woman. It's because he listened to his woman and

0:53:24.500 --> 0:53:28.779
<v Speaker 2>not God. And have eaten of the tree of which

0:53:28.859 --> 0:53:30.819
<v Speaker 2>I commanded you. In other words, in other words, I

0:53:30.859 --> 0:53:35.020
<v Speaker 2>commanded you not to and you listen to her, saying

0:53:35.060 --> 0:53:37.340
<v Speaker 2>you shall not eat of it. Cursed is the ground,

0:53:37.460 --> 0:53:40.660
<v Speaker 2>you see, the serpent is cursed, and Adam is cursed.

0:53:41.020 --> 0:53:44.340
<v Speaker 2>But specific, to be very specific, the ground is cursed

0:53:44.339 --> 0:53:49.379
<v Speaker 2>for Adam in toil. Cursed is the ground for your sake.

0:53:49.460 --> 0:53:52.300
<v Speaker 2>In toil, shall you eat of it all the days

0:53:52.299 --> 0:53:55.459
<v Speaker 2>of your life? Thorns also and thistles it will bring

0:53:55.540 --> 0:53:58.299
<v Speaker 2>forth to you, and you will eat the herb of

0:53:58.339 --> 0:54:00.620
<v Speaker 2>the field and the sweat of thy face.

0:54:01.299 --> 0:54:02.060
<v Speaker 3>You will eat.

0:54:01.940 --> 0:54:06.339
<v Speaker 2>Bread till you return unto the ground, for out of

0:54:06.380 --> 0:54:10.539
<v Speaker 2>it where you taken for dust you are, and into

0:54:10.700 --> 0:54:14.860
<v Speaker 2>dust you will return, all for one apple.

0:54:19.060 --> 0:54:22.340
<v Speaker 3>Finally, after that, you do wonder what happened?

0:54:22.540 --> 0:54:26.899
<v Speaker 2>But you know, it's these these lacunai, these gaps in

0:54:26.940 --> 0:54:29.539
<v Speaker 2>the narrative that are always so fascinating. What did Adam

0:54:29.580 --> 0:54:29.980
<v Speaker 2>and Eve do?

0:54:30.100 --> 0:54:30.299
<v Speaker 3>Then?

0:54:30.940 --> 0:54:33.460
<v Speaker 2>You know? Did they look at each other that they embrace,

0:54:33.859 --> 0:54:36.859
<v Speaker 2>they make love? Did they get angry at each other?

0:54:37.859 --> 0:54:41.300
<v Speaker 2>Did they start hunting snakes? You know, you just wonder

0:54:41.339 --> 0:54:44.820
<v Speaker 2>what did they do? Who knows? What is the next sentence?

0:54:44.940 --> 0:54:48.460
<v Speaker 2>It almost seems like a non sequitur the next sentences.

0:54:49.140 --> 0:54:56.980
<v Speaker 2>And Adam named his wife Eve, for Eve means jerk nothing.

0:54:59.180 --> 0:54:59.940
<v Speaker 3>Can you imagine?

0:54:59.980 --> 0:55:05.299
<v Speaker 2>You know, he was so ticked off now because she

0:55:05.700 --> 0:55:11.739
<v Speaker 2>was the mother of all living things and Hebrew and Hebrew,

0:55:11.819 --> 0:55:15.700
<v Speaker 2>all these original names proved to me, and I don't

0:55:15.700 --> 0:55:17.660
<v Speaker 2>want to prove it to you if you don't feel

0:55:17.660 --> 0:55:21.140
<v Speaker 2>this way. But for me personally, the whole st is

0:55:21.180 --> 0:55:28.500
<v Speaker 2>allegorical because the names mean that Adam means earth, Eve

0:55:28.859 --> 0:55:33.540
<v Speaker 2>means life, so it's earth and life. I mean, we're talking,

0:55:33.819 --> 0:55:37.460
<v Speaker 2>I think very symbolically here. Even the names canaan Abel

0:55:37.660 --> 0:55:40.540
<v Speaker 2>means something in that way that tend to make it

0:55:40.580 --> 0:55:43.219
<v Speaker 2>an allegory, but if you wish to take them literally,

0:55:43.299 --> 0:55:44.779
<v Speaker 2>I have no problem whatsoever.

0:55:46.900 --> 0:55:49.100
<v Speaker 3>And it's very touching. Verse twenty one.

0:55:50.299 --> 0:55:53.700
<v Speaker 2>By the way, you notice there's no protest. Isn't it interesting?

0:55:53.739 --> 0:55:57.500
<v Speaker 2>There's no protest from Adam and Eve. It's not fair.

0:55:58.339 --> 0:56:00.700
<v Speaker 2>First of all, why do you think there was no protest?

0:56:00.779 --> 0:56:02.980
<v Speaker 2>One is I'll bet you they were pretty relieved that

0:56:03.020 --> 0:56:07.140
<v Speaker 2>they didn't die. That may truly be one of the

0:56:07.180 --> 0:56:11.100
<v Speaker 2>reasons that there was no protest. Another one was a

0:56:11.219 --> 0:56:14.620
<v Speaker 2>sense of yeah, well, we now our eyes are now

0:56:14.660 --> 0:56:16.980
<v Speaker 2>open and we understand what you're describing.

0:56:17.060 --> 0:56:18.299
<v Speaker 3>It's as if I were to say to.

0:56:18.259 --> 0:56:22.100
<v Speaker 2>You, you don't want to lie, no problem, you want

0:56:22.100 --> 0:56:24.219
<v Speaker 2>a driver's license. Okay, let me just tell you the

0:56:24.259 --> 0:56:26.979
<v Speaker 2>following the chance of your being killed in a car

0:56:27.020 --> 0:56:31.739
<v Speaker 2>crash or the following the number of people who who

0:56:31.940 --> 0:56:35.620
<v Speaker 2>are remained in a crash is the following. You've now

0:56:35.660 --> 0:56:38.259
<v Speaker 2>opened your eyes to driving. Let me tell you the

0:56:38.339 --> 0:56:41.779
<v Speaker 2>realities of driving. You get what I'm saying, and you're

0:56:41.819 --> 0:56:44.620
<v Speaker 2>not going to complain. You will just you'll swallow hard

0:56:44.940 --> 0:56:47.979
<v Speaker 2>and say I understand this. That's what comes with getting

0:56:48.020 --> 0:56:51.180
<v Speaker 2>a driver's license. They got a driver's license to live,

0:56:51.980 --> 0:56:54.540
<v Speaker 2>and here are the risks that come with it, and

0:56:54.620 --> 0:56:57.580
<v Speaker 2>so you don't get complaints for all we know. Incidentally,

0:56:57.620 --> 0:57:01.899
<v Speaker 2>they weren't terribly depressed. Who knows, I'm serious, We don't know.

0:57:02.859 --> 0:57:03.379
<v Speaker 3>After all.

0:57:03.380 --> 0:57:06.140
<v Speaker 2>What he did afterwards was give his wife a name,

0:57:06.980 --> 0:57:09.900
<v Speaker 2>which is very interesting. It certainly doesn't bespeak of anger.

0:57:11.779 --> 0:57:15.460
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, God made this a touching And then the

0:57:15.580 --> 0:57:18.300
<v Speaker 2>next thing is God made for Adam and his wife

0:57:19.740 --> 0:57:24.620
<v Speaker 2>garments of skin and clothe them.

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<v Speaker 3>Twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>God said, behold, man is like one of us, knowing everything.

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<v Speaker 2>And now lest he put forth his hand and take

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<v Speaker 2>from the tree of life and eat and live forever.

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<v Speaker 3>Therefore God sent.

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<v Speaker 2>Him forth from the garden of Eden to till the

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<v Speaker 2>ground from whence he was taken. So he drove out

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<v Speaker 2>Adam or the atom the man, and he placed at

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<v Speaker 2>the east of the garden of Eden the Cherubim and

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<v Speaker 2>the flaming Sword, which are like angels, with the flaming

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<v Speaker 2>sword which turned every way to keep the way to

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<v Speaker 2>the Tree of life. So it's not available to us

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<v Speaker 2>in the state that we are, but the tree of

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<v Speaker 2>immortality still exists. It's an interesting hint isn't it. It

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't destroyed, it's just guarded from our reach. Well, what

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<v Speaker 2>does that imply? You'll infer what you want. But it

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<v Speaker 2>is interesting, isn't it, that it's still there wherever that

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<v Speaker 2>may be. It's a tough thing here that God said

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<v Speaker 2>he'll be one of us, that man will be one

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<v Speaker 2>of us. This is really the lesson of the story.

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<v Speaker 2>We can know a lot. We human beings can know

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<v Speaker 2>an awful lot. The problem is when we think we

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<v Speaker 2>can know everything, and that is called the Greeks call

0:58:51.460 --> 0:58:55.459
<v Speaker 2>it hubris. It's a tremendous arrogance that the human can have.

0:58:56.300 --> 0:59:02.380
<v Speaker 2>We can know everything, we can play God. The belief

0:59:02.500 --> 0:59:05.140
<v Speaker 2>of the Bible is and it's one of my favorite quotes.

0:59:05.180 --> 0:59:11.140
<v Speaker 2>I believe it's from Proverbs reschid hochmayerrata Dounai. Wisdom begins

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<v Speaker 2>with awe of God. If you don't acknowledge that there

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<v Speaker 2>is something higher than you with all of your knowledge,

0:59:18.820 --> 0:59:22.700
<v Speaker 2>you'll be a fool. That's the biblical notion. I believe

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<v Speaker 2>it deeply that I will give one example of this.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the biggest fools of the twentieth century have

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<v Speaker 2>been secular intellectuals. Not all secular intellectuals or fools. But

0:59:35.820 --> 0:59:39.700
<v Speaker 2>the biggest fools have been secular intellectuals. They gave us

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<v Speaker 2>theories like communism and Marxism, they gave us arianism, they

0:59:44.780 --> 0:59:49.860
<v Speaker 2>gave us racism. It is a very very powerful lesson

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<v Speaker 2>to be learned, as scholars have noted. And you were

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<v Speaker 2>more likely to be anti Semitic in Nazi Germany if

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<v Speaker 2>you graduated high school or college than if you didn't go.

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<v Speaker 2>The Anti Defamation League has pointed out that blacks do

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<v Speaker 2>not have any more anti Semitic tendencies than whites, except

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<v Speaker 2>for one group of blacks, Blacks that go to American colleges.

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<v Speaker 2>Anti Semitism among them is far higher than among blacks

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<v Speaker 2>who don't go to college. There is a real worry

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<v Speaker 2>that I have of the pursuit of knowledge with no

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<v Speaker 2>notion of God attached. And that's the lesson that is

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<v Speaker 2>being taught here. You think you can know tou Verah,

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<v Speaker 2>you think you can know everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, if you.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't know that I God am higher and know more,

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<v Speaker 2>you will ruin your lives, which is exactly what we

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<v Speaker 2>do time after time with the hubris of thinking that

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<v Speaker 2>we can understand everything without God. That's what is talked

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<v Speaker 2>about in these last sentences of chapter three, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>the whole point of the story. You can know a

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<v Speaker 2>lot man, but the moment you think you're one of us,

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<v Speaker 2>you are doomed. And it was Marx who said man

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<v Speaker 2>is God. Apparently they weren't all that angry with each other,

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<v Speaker 2>because chapter four, verse one begins and Adam knew his

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<v Speaker 2>wife Eve, and she got pregnant and gave birth to Cain. See,

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<v Speaker 2>I told you it wasn't wasn't all that bad. They

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<v Speaker 2>had sex, and the way this again proves that knowledge

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<v Speaker 2>of good and evil has a lot to do with sex.

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<v Speaker 2>That the biblical word for having sex is you get

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<v Speaker 2>the phrase you know, well, do you know her? Biblically?

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<v Speaker 2>People have used that often as a joke, but it

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<v Speaker 2>is to know biblically is to have sex with that.

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<v Speaker 2>And there is a lot of There is both a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of truth to that and a lot of I

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<v Speaker 2>think relationship to the tree of knowledge of good and bad. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>he knew his wife. It's interesting it doesn't say he

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<v Speaker 2>slept with her, he lay with her. It sometimes does,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's the first time it's used. And I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>it's related to the tree of knowledge.

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<v Speaker 3>She gave birth to.

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<v Speaker 2>Cain. Why because I have gotten the man with the

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<v Speaker 2>help of God.

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<v Speaker 3>Kayan.

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<v Speaker 2>Any of you who know Hebrew know Lee means to

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<v Speaker 2>buy or to acquire. Cain therefore means acquired that which

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<v Speaker 2>was acquired. That's how he got his name. Okay. And

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<v Speaker 2>she continued to give birth, and she gave birth to

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<v Speaker 2>his brother.

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<v Speaker 3>Hovel in English able.

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<v Speaker 2>And now hovel means it could really means nothingness.

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<v Speaker 3>Or vanity.

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<v Speaker 2>The beginning of Ecclesiastes is heavell ha aalim hakol hovel

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<v Speaker 2>vanity of vanities. Everything is vanity or nothing of things,

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<v Speaker 2>or emptiness of emptiness. So they have acquired an emptiness

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<v Speaker 2>for kids. And you think you've seen odd names. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>never forget a former US ambassador to the Dominican Republic.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw a letter from him in the New York

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<v Speaker 2>Times about twenty years.

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<v Speaker 3>Ago, Phelps Phelps.

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<v Speaker 2>I just wondered, of all the names in the world,

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<v Speaker 2>why his parents gave their son Phelps the name Phelps.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Know the uh.

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<v Speaker 2>She gives birth to the two of them. Abel is

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<v Speaker 2>a Abel Where are we we are? In Verse two?

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<v Speaker 2>Abel was a keeper of sheep, and Cain was a

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<v Speaker 2>tiller of the ground. And it came to pass after

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<v Speaker 2>some time that Cain brought of the fruit of the

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<v Speaker 2>ground an offering to God. By the way, one of

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<v Speaker 2>the points here is the universality of sacrifice and the

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<v Speaker 2>universality of prayer and belief in God. Cain brings from

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<v Speaker 2>the fruit of the earth an offering to God. And

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<v Speaker 2>Abel also brought an offering of the first of his flock,

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<v Speaker 2>and of the fat thereof. This is truly fascinating. And

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<v Speaker 2>the Lord had respect unto able and to his offering.

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<v Speaker 3>What other translations do you have? And the Lord what.

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<v Speaker 2>Turned to paid heed to I'm sorry received. In other words,

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<v Speaker 2>God preferred able sacrifice. Okay, here's my sixty four thousand

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<v Speaker 2>dollars question after I read verse five.

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<v Speaker 3>But to Cain and to his.

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<v Speaker 2>Offering, he had no respect, and Cain was very angry,

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<v Speaker 2>and his countenance fell. Here's my question to you, How

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<v Speaker 2>did Cain know that God preferred able sacrifice?

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<v Speaker 3>Anybody have an answer?

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<v Speaker 2>Huh?

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<v Speaker 3>What?

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<v Speaker 2>God doesn't pick up sacrifices, You just offer them. Unless

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<v Speaker 2>smoke didn't go up. Well, that's interesting. It's very physical. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>the fire came from heaven and aided up.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you see that here?

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, okay, but this is rabbinic exegesis later on, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's fine, but it doesn't say it. What can you

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<v Speaker 2>infer from the text just reading what I call the

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<v Speaker 2>shop the text itself? Yes, okay, that's my answers. Anybody

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<v Speaker 2>have another answer? That's what I believe, I'll tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you, yes, back there. Yes, what did I

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<v Speaker 2>able to ask for only on the basis of what

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<v Speaker 2>is written?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I think that that's true, and that's what his

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<v Speaker 2>answer was. That's why Cain knew. Let me if I may,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, sir. This uh what I believe, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>I can't prove it, but I try to read only

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<v Speaker 2>what's there without the light of thousands of years of

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<v Speaker 2>various readings into it, which I appreciate, but I'm trying

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<v Speaker 2>to read it anew. It seems to me that Cain

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<v Speaker 2>knew because Cain knew what his brother offered, which is

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<v Speaker 2>what you're pointing out, and knew what he offered, and

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<v Speaker 2>as you pointed out, he knew what he felt he

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<v Speaker 2>was doing it more or less ProForma or compared to

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<v Speaker 2>his brother's sincerity. He felt that he was lacking.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the issue.

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<v Speaker 2>God doesn't need first borns or first fruits.

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<v Speaker 3>That's pagan.

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<v Speaker 2>God doesn't eat, so it can't be God's preference. It

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<v Speaker 2>has to be here the internal devotion of the individual.

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<v Speaker 2>And clearly that Cain's was greater. Cain knew it. You

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<v Speaker 2>know what you feel, and sometimes not always at all,

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<v Speaker 2>you can sense what another feels. My point here is this,

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<v Speaker 2>and then this is now adding to this point. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not written here. When you do things for a god,

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<v Speaker 2>to God, sincerity is everything. When you do things for people,

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<v Speaker 2>sincerity is much less important. It's one of the things that,

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<v Speaker 2>in fact, I believe so deeply. It is one of

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<v Speaker 2>the guiding principles of my own religious life. And I

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<v Speaker 2>will explain. It says in the Torah that you give

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<v Speaker 2>ten percent of your earnings to the poor, right Seduka.

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<v Speaker 2>It also says in the Torah that when the Israelites,

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<v Speaker 2>when the Jews built the temple, it said, let every

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<v Speaker 2>Jew give whatever his heart prompts him to give. And

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<v Speaker 2>I use that distinction to teach or to learn the following.

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<v Speaker 2>What you do for God should come from your heart.

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<v Speaker 2>What you do for human beings doesn't necessarily have to

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<v Speaker 2>come from your heart. It is better to give ten

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<v Speaker 2>percent of your money to charity, even if it's so

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<v Speaker 2>because of the law, than to give one percent from

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<v Speaker 2>your heart, because the poor need your money much more

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<v Speaker 2>than they need your heart. But God needs your heart,

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<v Speaker 2>not your money. And that's what the issue is here.

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<v Speaker 2>The issue is that it was clear that it was

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<v Speaker 2>insincere on Cain's part, and Caine knew it. Now, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a very interesting thing that happens in life. If somebody

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<v Speaker 2>does something better than you do, you have two possible reactions.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't that beautiful? I could learn from that, it's something

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<v Speaker 2>for me to emulate. Or they should drop dead. Is

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<v Speaker 2>that correct? Those are the two general possible reactions we

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<v Speaker 2>have to other people's excellence or greatness in the same

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<v Speaker 2>act that we have my God, that is really something

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<v Speaker 2>to learn from. Or you know what, he should drop dead.

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<v Speaker 2>Caine opted for the latter. We now go to verse six. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>oh oh, And by the way, what's critical here, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's right up my alley and what I've been speaking

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<v Speaker 2>about in the last year. What is Cain's reaction? He

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<v Speaker 2>got angry? My current theory of life is that anger

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<v Speaker 2>is the most important emotion to get a hold of.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mean to suppress to get a hold of.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody in this room has anger. There is no human

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<v Speaker 2>being in the world who is not angry. The questions

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<v Speaker 2>are how angry and at whom we all have anger.

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<v Speaker 2>My mother didn't love me enough. My father didn't love

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<v Speaker 2>me enough. My brother didn't love me enough. My sister

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<v Speaker 2>didn't love me enough. My husband didn't love me enough.

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<v Speaker 2>My wife didn't love me enough. My kids don't love

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<v Speaker 2>me enough. The government doesn't love me enough. My friends

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<v Speaker 2>aren't faithful to me enough. People don't do enough for me.

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<v Speaker 2>People cheat me. I get cut off when I go

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<v Speaker 2>in the left lane. No people take my parking spot.

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<v Speaker 2>And not only that, six million Jews were killed a

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<v Speaker 2>generation ago. Okay, from the sublime, or from the ridiculous

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<v Speaker 2>to the sublime, back to the ridiculous, back to the sublime.

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<v Speaker 2>There are a lot of reasons to be angry. The

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<v Speaker 2>question is is the anger is the anger appropriate? There

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<v Speaker 2>are people, there are religious people who say never be angry.

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<v Speaker 2>I get this a lot when I speak on interreligious forums, which,

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<v Speaker 2>for those of you not in LA on the unhumble

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<v Speaker 2>assumption that every one of you in La knows this,

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<v Speaker 2>which is of course preposterous, but a lot of you do.

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday nights, I speak to a priest, minister, rabbi on

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<v Speaker 2>the radio every week for ten years, and it is

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<v Speaker 2>not uncommon for a priest or a minister, much more

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<v Speaker 2>so than a rabbi as it happens, to say that

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<v Speaker 2>it is not good to have anger. I don't agree

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<v Speaker 2>with that, but there is a lot of truth that

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<v Speaker 2>anger is the breeder of evil that I believe deeply.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very new part of me, or a new part

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<v Speaker 2>of my thinking, that evil comes from anger more than

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<v Speaker 2>any other one thing. The trouble is that people need

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<v Speaker 2>to know what their anger is toward. Germans had a

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<v Speaker 2>deep anger. A lot of psychologists hold that they are

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<v Speaker 2>angry from the way they were raised, that Germans had

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<v Speaker 2>a particularly severe upbringing, fairly loveless, severe authoritarian upbringing. Others

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<v Speaker 2>also note the anger over losing World War One and

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<v Speaker 2>that the right wing in Germany blamed their government for

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<v Speaker 2>selling them short at the Treaty of Versailles. Whatever it was,

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<v Speaker 2>it is clear that there was a lot of anger.

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<v Speaker 2>Anger is okay if you channel it towards the appropriate source,

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<v Speaker 2>so that, for example, I would say to a Jew,

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<v Speaker 2>would I said this when the Prime Minister of Israel

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<v Speaker 2>announced that Poles drink anti Semitism in their mother's milk.

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<v Speaker 2>He is angry at Poland for the Holocaust. What he

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<v Speaker 2>should be is angry at every Pole who participated in it,

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<v Speaker 2>as opposed to Poland. It is good in my mind

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<v Speaker 2>to be angry at those who do bad, but it

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<v Speaker 2>is terrible to be angry at a group. That's where

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of evil takes place, anger that is not deserved,

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<v Speaker 2>and it just I don't control it. It is not

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<v Speaker 2>coincidental that it says he was angry.

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<v Speaker 3>Did anybody hurt him? No, he hurt himself.

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<v Speaker 2>But he lashed out in his anger against Abel, who

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<v Speaker 2>did nothing whatsoever to Caine, which, by the way, is really,

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<v Speaker 2>in a sense much of history of persecution, certainly of

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<v Speaker 2>the Jews. The Jews would live in most societies quite quietly.

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<v Speaker 2>Not in the twentieth century. Jews have got a lot noisier,

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<v Speaker 2>but in general Jews were very quiet, living their own lives,

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<v Speaker 2>and were hurt. They were the Abels. There was a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of anger around them. They did their thing. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's not only Jews, who's not the only persecuted group

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<v Speaker 2>in history. It's just it's the most ubiquitous. People get

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<v Speaker 2>angry and they lash out at the abels around them.

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<v Speaker 2>That happens all the time. The kid who cheats in

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<v Speaker 2>class is very likely to be angry at the kid

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<v Speaker 2>who doesn't cheat in class, and does well be your

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<v Speaker 2>real anger at them? Why didn't you stoop to my level?

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<v Speaker 2>There's an anger. In fact, there's a book out for

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<v Speaker 2>ordinary men or ordinary people I don't recall, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>about a group of Germans who murdered eighty thousand Jews.

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<v Speaker 2>And before the war, they were postman civil servants. They

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<v Speaker 2>were just brought in together and say, here, go kill Jews.

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<v Speaker 2>Most of them aren't even anti Semitic, but they did it.

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<v Speaker 2>And a big part of the reason was they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want the anger that they felt would be shown to

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<v Speaker 2>them by their colleagues if they didn't participate. If you

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<v Speaker 2>do good, the bad will be angry at you. It

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<v Speaker 2>is a common thing in life. Anger is very tough issue.

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<v Speaker 2>Causes a lot of bad stuff, And that's what God

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<v Speaker 2>says to Cain in six While why are you angry,

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<v Speaker 2>and why why do.

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<v Speaker 3>You look sad? Number seven?

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<v Speaker 2>If you do well, if you do good, won't it

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<v Speaker 2>be lifted up? And if you don't do well, if

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<v Speaker 2>you don't do good, sin sin sits or couches, crouches

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<v Speaker 2>at the door, and you will desire it, but you

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<v Speaker 2>can rule over it. Is that an effect the translation

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<v Speaker 2>you all have in effect because a very tough sentence

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<v Speaker 2>in Hebrew. If you get angry, it is very common.

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<v Speaker 2>That's God's point here. When you get angry, the likelihood

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<v Speaker 2>of your doing bad is increased tremendously. That's why you've

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<v Speaker 2>got to rule over it. Evil sin is crouching at

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<v Speaker 2>the door if you get angry, a bad you're doing.

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<v Speaker 3>Bad is.

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<v Speaker 2>Unless you control yourself. That was God's advice. God knew

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<v Speaker 2>exactly what Cain would do. This is his advice, rule

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<v Speaker 2>your anger, rule the desire for sin, and then ate,

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<v Speaker 2>which is one of the most interesting verses. And Cain

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<v Speaker 2>spoke to Abel his brother, and it came to pass

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<v Speaker 2>when they were in the field, Cain rose up against

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<v Speaker 2>Abel his brother and killed him. To a very bizarre sentence.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at it again. And Cain spoke to Abel's brother

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<v Speaker 2>and it came to pass. What did he say? Isn't

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<v Speaker 2>that interesting? We don't know what he said. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>he said, come with me out to the field. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what he said, but whatever it was, he

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<v Speaker 2>got up and he killed him. Did able to do

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<v Speaker 2>a thing to Cain?

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing?

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<v Speaker 2>And he just killed him. And God said to Cain,

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<v Speaker 2>just like he had said to Adam, Right, Cain, where's

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<v Speaker 2>Abel your brother? And in one of the most famous

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<v Speaker 2>answers in the entire Bible, Cain says, I don't The

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<v Speaker 2>traditional translation is I don't know. I am my brother's keeper. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>these will be my final but they are big, big

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<v Speaker 2>points this There is an incredible amount of material in

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<v Speaker 2>this thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Number one?

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<v Speaker 2>Why didn't Cain say I killed him?

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<v Speaker 3>So?

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<v Speaker 2>Wouldn't that have been the most logical answer. I picked

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<v Speaker 2>up a rock, bashed his head in, and he's dead. God,

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<v Speaker 2>any problem? I mean, it's sincerely? Why didn't he answer that?

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<v Speaker 2>Did God ever say thou shalt not murder? No ten Commandments,

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<v Speaker 2>no seven Laws of the Children of Noah? Cain could

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<v Speaker 2>have said, I killed them? What's the problem? I believe

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<v Speaker 2>that this teaches one of the most fundamental rules of

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<v Speaker 2>life and of Judaism and of the tour And that

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<v Speaker 2>is the belief that revealed legislation is not necessary to

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<v Speaker 2>know good from evil. We are expected to know that

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<v Speaker 2>certain things are wrong just by the fact that we

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<v Speaker 2>are human beings. That's why I never accept the argument, well,

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<v Speaker 2>they weren't educated, How are they supposed to know that

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<v Speaker 2>you don't beat children or you don't shoot children in

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<v Speaker 2>the area they grow up in an area where a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of kids are shot. People speaking of gang members

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<v Speaker 2>will say, hell, how are they supposed to know? The

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<v Speaker 2>answer is the belief written here that we have a

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<v Speaker 2>conscience that just as you know you don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>be killed, you know that this person doesn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>be killed. That's why his answer is so important. He

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<v Speaker 2>does not feign ignorance of the morality immorality of what

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<v Speaker 2>he did. Okay, this is how I learn that conscience

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<v Speaker 2>is implanted in the human being. According to the Bible,

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<v Speaker 2>Cain knew what he did was wrong, but he gives

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<v Speaker 2>a smart algy answer, g I don't know? Am I

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<v Speaker 2>my brother's keeper? There are three ways to read his response.

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<v Speaker 2>The Hebrew says laya datti hashomira rianofi. Literally, it can

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<v Speaker 2>mean what I what you heard, I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Am I my brother's keeper? Or it could also be.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that I am my brother's keeper. There

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<v Speaker 2>are three ways to read it, depending upon where you

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<v Speaker 2>put the uh the accent. One is I didn't know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't. Well, there are four ways. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know? Am I my brother's keeper? Just a snotty answer. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's one. Another one is I I didn't know that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm my brother's keeper, having to do in effect with

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<v Speaker 2>the act that he had just performed. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>that that I'm responsible for my brother. Another one is

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know hashomer or I don't know am I

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<v Speaker 2>my brother's keeper? You God are my brother's keeper? If

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<v Speaker 2>you put the emphasis on I, it's all different. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, am I my brother's keeper? Usually we say

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, am I my brother's keeper? But what

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<v Speaker 2>if the accent is on I, am I my brother's keeper?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you see all the existential things that come from this?

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<v Speaker 2>You could all ask the same thing, Am I responsible

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<v Speaker 2>for people? Or is God responsible for people? For those

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<v Speaker 2>of you who wonder how God can allow evil, here

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<v Speaker 2>is the answer. God allows evil because we are our

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<v Speaker 2>brother's keepers. God, isn't anyone who's He says, why did

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<v Speaker 2>God allow the Holocaust? Is asking Cain's question, you are

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<v Speaker 2>my brother's keeper. Nahho, that's not true. The implication is unacceptable.

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<v Speaker 2>We are our brother's keeper, not God. That's how he

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<v Speaker 2>allows it. So I don't know how you want to

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<v Speaker 2>read it, but it is a very interesting possibility in

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<v Speaker 2>any of these directions. And the final point to be

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<v Speaker 2>raised is verse eleven, verse ten, What did you do?

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<v Speaker 2>God said the voice of your brother's bloods? And it's

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<v Speaker 2>too bad that it doesn't translate it as bloods. It translates.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure your translation is blood. Does anyone have bloods? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's where a literal translation would be very healthy of bloods?

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<v Speaker 2>What translation is that? The Hebrew is the voice? I'll

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<v Speaker 2>do it literally, the voice of the bloods of your

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<v Speaker 2>brother are screaming at me from the earth. And here

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<v Speaker 2>I think the rabbinic translation is right on. When you

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<v Speaker 2>kill someone, you have not only killed them, you have

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<v Speaker 2>killed all those they would that would have come from them.

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<v Speaker 2>So the bloods of your brother are screaming at me

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<v Speaker 2>from the earth means it's not just your brother's blood,

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<v Speaker 2>but his kids that he never had, and the grandkids

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<v Speaker 2>he never had, and so on and so forth. It's

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<v Speaker 2>to give you an idea of how evil murder is

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<v Speaker 2>what you have done when you murder, that this would

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<v Speaker 2>be listed as the first sin of the human species.

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<v Speaker 2>If I don't want to include the eating of the

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<v Speaker 2>I guess the eating is the first, But this is

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<v Speaker 2>the first that we can relate to. None of us

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<v Speaker 2>can violate the trees in the garden. That's how bad

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<v Speaker 2>it is. That is what you've done. When you commit murder.

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<v Speaker 2>You have killed far more than that individual. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>so powerful that they are screaming at me.

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<v Speaker 3>You know who should be angry? God is in.

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<v Speaker 2>Effect saying Abel, he's the one who's screaming. He's the

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<v Speaker 2>one who should be angry. It's the victim who's angry,

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<v Speaker 2>not the criminal who should be angry.

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<v Speaker 3>You should control your anger.

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<v Speaker 2>But he has justified anger because you murdered him. It's

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<v Speaker 2>darn good lesson for our time, where we often invert

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<v Speaker 2>whose anger we have sympathy with and whom we ignore

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<v Speaker 2>when when that anger is unleashed. Let me take a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of questions. I know that some of you had

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<v Speaker 2>and if you don't, we could take it next time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yep, yeah, we're not up.

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<v Speaker 2>To that yet, so let me take it when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes up on the years. Is that we're not upright,

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<v Speaker 2>it's beyond ya where we got Yes, just take five minutes, folks,

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<v Speaker 2>if you could stay where you are.

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<v Speaker 3>It's correct. I know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why people say apple. It's like a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people say that Jonah was swallowed by a whale.

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<v Speaker 2>It never says whale, it says great fish. Maybe he

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<v Speaker 2>had an apple in the great whale and that was

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and they got mixed up back there. Yes, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's in. It's an interesting question that he was present

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<v Speaker 2>for the discussion.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, what verse is that? Six? Three six?

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<v Speaker 2>The question was, I'll read you the verse. It's great.

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<v Speaker 2>It's an interest. I have to think it through.

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<v Speaker 3>Hmm uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And she so she took this is eve, she took

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<v Speaker 2>from the fruit fruit, and she ate and she gave

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<v Speaker 2>it also to her husband who was with her, and

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<v Speaker 2>he ate. So is the implication that he was with

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<v Speaker 2>her during the dialogue with the serpent? Oh, well, we've

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<v Speaker 2>established he knew where it came from. But yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>that would be at the very least. It's an interesting

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<v Speaker 2>point because with her would seem totally redundant, not redundant, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>redundant or superfluous. Who obviously where else is he going

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<v Speaker 2>to be? Interesting point? Yes, contribute to the equation of

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<v Speaker 2>sex and sin. Is that what you're basically asking? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>the truth is it probably did for a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think that that's the point. Here comes into

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<v Speaker 3>the picture.

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<v Speaker 2>Life changes, We're no longer innocent, and it really, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's primal stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Sex is the tnt of life.

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<v Speaker 2>It is and it can blow things up and it

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<v Speaker 2>can make the world, which it does. That's that drive.

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<v Speaker 2>If you think of an asexual person, you think of

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<v Speaker 2>a person with no drive, right, And if you think

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<v Speaker 2>of a person with a great deal of drive, you

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<v Speaker 2>automatically assume they have a strong sex component. And that

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<v Speaker 2>is true. It's the dynamite of our lives. It's the dynamism,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's not something we're happy to see, generally speaking,

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<v Speaker 2>profoundly subside in our life. We feel life ebbing away.

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<v Speaker 2>If that ebbs away, it's something people wish to preserve

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<v Speaker 2>that part of them, whether they have the means to

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<v Speaker 2>live it or not. As a physical issue, but having

1:29:25.500 --> 1:29:29.059
<v Speaker 2>the drive is something everybody wants. It keeps you alive.

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<v Speaker 2>So yes, I don't see it at all sinful. I

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<v Speaker 2>see it as a root of a lot of sin, obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>the most obvious being rape, another one being adultery, though

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<v Speaker 2>that's more complex because they're all emotional and other.

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