1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Life Audio. 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 2: Hey David, thanks for joining me. Thank you for having me, 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 2: but I appreciate it. 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 3: David Pollack college Football Hall of Famer and former University 5 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 3: of Georgia All American and former NFL player as well. 6 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 3: David Pollack dot com is the website you have a 7 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 3: new book, David, Every day counts. 8 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 2: Start where you are, use what you have, do what 9 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: you can. Be an anxious a publisher. 10 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 3: I have followed your career closely, as I've told you 11 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 3: before we started here. 12 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 2: What's the inspiration behind the book? We led? You don't 13 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: want to write this? 14 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 1: Well, first off, I'm a I'm a defensive lineman, so 15 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: writing is not our strength or our forte. And if 16 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: you look behind me Seaball Giftball, that's my podcast with football, 17 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: it's because you don't have to be that bright. So 18 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 1: I will say this, man, like really hard to write 19 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 1: a book. 20 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 2: It was not easy. I had somebody ask me when's 21 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 2: the next one coming out? I'm like never ever? But 22 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: but Michael, it was more about like how could I 23 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 2: share my story? But but but my and it wasn't. 24 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: It's not my it's not my good stuff. 25 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: It's more my my my down, my bad stuff man, 26 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: my challenge is the adversity, and and God's given us 27 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: a heaping, a couple of spoonfuls in our lives and 28 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: we're just we're thankful for it. So to me, the 29 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: book is really about, like how do you handle adversity? 30 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: How do you start where you are, use what you 31 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 1: have to do what you can with That means I 32 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: did it in football, I did it with TV, I 33 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: did it with my wife's you know, health, like we've 34 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: done with all these different things. It's really developing a 35 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: system man, of like you are where you're at, like 36 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 1: the and I use the analogy for a car all 37 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: the time, Like people want to live in the windshield 38 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: and live in the windshield looking forward. Some people want 39 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: to live in the rear view mirror. Like we want 40 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: to be in the car man, like drive the car 41 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: every single day. So it's literally some tricks, some some 42 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: things that some tangible ways that you can make every 43 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: single day count and we don't get stuck in the 44 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: future or stuck in the past. 45 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 2: We live in the present and we win in the present. 46 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 3: You're talking about adversity you have have gone through in 47 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 3: your life. One of those was your NFL career, you 48 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 3: talk about that you were an All American in Georgia. 49 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 3: For those who don't know, David wasn't All American in Georgia, 50 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 3: drafted in the first round of the NFL draft and 51 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 3: then had a career cut short due to injury. David, 52 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 3: for you, how did your faith help guide you through that, 53 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 3: through that moment in your life and what were your 54 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 3: emotions during that time. 55 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: I think, just like anybody else, Like if you'd listened 56 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: to me from when I was six years old on, 57 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:25,119 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna play in the NFL. 58 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna play in the NFL. 59 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: And despite the awesome little little doubters I had and 60 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: awesome people that was like, oh that's cute, you know, 61 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: patcha on the head type of a deal. You know, 62 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: I was able to make it come true and it 63 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: was awesome. It was great me and my wife. My 64 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: wife had married a first round draft pick, a big, 65 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: strong NFL football player, and like, everything was going the 66 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: way that I wanted to go, and then in one play, 67 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: one hit, one instance, it was gone. And so you know, 68 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: it was tough and it was hard, and you know, 69 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: but your perspective changes so much when you know it 70 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,079 Speaker 1: wasn't a broken leg. It was a broken neck. And 71 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: when you're trying to go back to some assemblance of 72 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 1: normal for a while, like I'll never forget man, Michael, 73 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: I benched two. I benched four fifty five in college, 74 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: and that sounds like a lot, but I promise you 75 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: that wasn't in the top twenty five at Georgia. 76 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: Like there's some grown people, like some grown people. 77 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: And when I got cleared two years after my neck 78 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: braces and my halo and my surgery, I benched one 79 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: thirty five twice and I looked like this, like and 80 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: so it was extremely discouraging. And so I think it 81 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: was about like, Okay, how do I make how do 82 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: I make today count? How do I win today? And 83 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: how do I goal set today? How do I set 84 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: my alignment for today? And so I think what I 85 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: what I learned was specifically the Bible says be still 86 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: and know that I am God. I didn't do a 87 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: lot of that in my life. I'm not gonna lie. 88 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: If I had an extra fifteen minutes, I was gone. 89 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: I was gonna go run, I was gonna work out. 90 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: I was gonna play video games like Go Go, Go, 91 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: Do Do Do people talk about it all the time. Hey, man, 92 00:03:58,160 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: I don't hear from God. 93 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: Well do you talk to God? Do you get still 94 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 2: enough to listen to God? 95 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: Because before that injury, for me, it was a very 96 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: transactional relationship with God. I got up in the morning, 97 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: I prayed to him, I had a meal, I'd pray 98 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: to him. If I got some more time in my day, 99 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: might I might holler at him? 100 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 2: Right? 101 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: And then when your world goes dark and silent and 102 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: still and everything around you starts to slow down. It 103 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: was amazing how much when I got still and started 104 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: to build some rhythms and some cadence in my life 105 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: and talk to my father, how much he started to 106 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: talk to me, and how much he started to show me. 107 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: And man, that broken neck was a privilege and an 108 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: honor because it made me a better dad, it made 109 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: me a better husband, it had made me a better son. 110 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 1: At the age of twenty two years old, I got 111 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: more life perspective than all of my twenty one years 112 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: before on this earth, and probably one of the most influential, 113 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: impactful moments period in my life. 114 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 2: So how did that moment then prepare you for later 115 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 2: challenge in life? Those who have followed your career. 116 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 3: Know you were at ESPN, they've been downsizing. You were 117 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 3: one of the people who was downsized. Your wife has 118 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,559 Speaker 3: also had some health challenges. Did that moment in terms 119 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 3: of not making the NFL do do an injury? Did 120 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 3: that kind of help you have the strength and the 121 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 3: character to go through those. 122 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 2: Other other adversities? One hundred million percent. Man. 123 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: I got my first adversity, like severe adversity at twenty two, 124 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: and then you start living again, and here's what you realize, 125 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: just like you, Michael, it's not if, it's when adversity 126 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 1: is coming. And the next adversity for me was a firing. 127 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: And listen, that was a really nice way. By the way, 128 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,559 Speaker 1: when you said they downsized, Yeah, I got fired, super 129 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: nice way. I appreciate your politeness. But when you get 130 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: that call and you realize, like, hey, what you've been 131 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: working towards and your next iteration in life that you 132 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: thought you were made for, that like, this is my thing, 133 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: right and it's gone. So you have football, this is 134 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: my thing and it's gone. And you know, commentating this 135 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: is my thing and it's gone. And you know, the 136 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: older I get, man, the way less I worry about 137 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: what happens to me. I don't care about what comes 138 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: my way. I care about my response. That's all I 139 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: care about. Man. And so you know, as soon as 140 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: I got fired from ESPN, like I was very thankful this. 141 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 2: First message I sent out with mad like I got to. 142 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: Do something for fifteen years that was so amazing, Like 143 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: I didn't deserve that, Like I didn't. 144 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: I honestly I didn't even earn it. 145 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 1: I didn't think I was worthy of doing it, especially 146 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: as fast as I got to be able to go 147 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: to college game day and do that. So you know, 148 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: I'm the type of person. And we just sat in 149 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: our household the other day, actually my wife did. She said, literally, 150 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: we were hugging my daughter to my son last night 151 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: they lost their playoff game in basketball, and my wife 152 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: was like, what do you always say about don't cry 153 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: because it's over, Smile because it happened, right, Like I 154 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: got an opportunity to do this and to walk through this, 155 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: and so we've had some hard to walk through, and 156 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: you know, it just it makes the fun, It makes 157 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: the joyful that much sweeter. 158 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 3: You mentioned serving football principles in the book that Motivated 159 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 3: Do You, including something called the fifty to forty ten rule. 160 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 3: Tell us about that and kind of how that applies 161 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 3: to everyday life. 162 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 2: Well, I tell you. 163 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: What, man, and no matter what walk of life you're in, 164 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: and mine was football, So I like to use football analogies. 165 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: But like, fifty percent of the people that you show 166 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: up to work with fifty percent, if you show up 167 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: with a good attitude and you work your tail off, 168 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: you'll beat them. You'll beat half the people in this wall. 169 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: Like that is that's a really good start to doing anything, 170 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: to any kind of business, any kind of formula, any 171 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: kind of thing you're walking through. When you eliminate fifty 172 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: percent of your competition right away, that's a good thing. 173 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: So fifty percent is gone by being a worker, having 174 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: a joyful attitude and working. Forty percent is out detailing. 175 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: And so I'm specific of when I talk about out detailing. 176 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: So from my work, what that looks like. I can't 177 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: cover everybody's job, right, But like when I'm an NFL 178 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: football player watching tape, studying my opponent, getting an edge 179 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: on how do they like to use their hands? 180 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 2: How does X affect why? 181 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: Like watching all the guys up front, watching the running backs, 182 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: getting tells like how about nutrition, man, Like, you want 183 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: to talk about recovering at an elite level, training your 184 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: body at an elite level, getting sleep, continuing to educate 185 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: yourself on all the things that make you different that 186 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: can separate you. 187 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 2: So, now you've outworked. 188 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: Fifty percent of people by showing up with a good 189 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: attitude forty percent of people. You can out detail, and 190 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: you can outstudy, and you can use your your gifts 191 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: and you're wiring to gain edges and your competitiveness and 192 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: your mind and your mental acuity, and like, you can 193 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: use all that to get the forty percent. Well, now 194 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: you've got ninety percent that's walked through that, Like, you're 195 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: left with the last ten who can get hit and 196 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: keep moving forward? Man Like, who can take shots, can 197 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: take adversity can take Hey, I drew this up, man, 198 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: This is my proposal. This is what I want. This 199 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: is the job I want. This is the interview I 200 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: just went for. Nope, you're not good enough. You're not 201 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: getting the job. Like, okay, good. What's next for me? 202 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: What do I need to take away from this? Like, 203 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: how do I get to the next level? How do 204 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: I keep working continue to implement those philosophies man, it's 205 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: a unique way to look at things. But that's how 206 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: you eliminate your competition. That's how you become the best 207 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: version of you, which makes other people want to hire you, 208 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: want to be around you, and it makes you a 209 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: lead in your field. 210 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 3: Was talking about your own personal faith? Did you come 211 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 3: to faith the early in life? Did you come to 212 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 3: faith later in life? Did that become stronger? I think 213 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 3: you've already kind of said that. Did it become stronger 214 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 3: at some point as a young adult? 215 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 2: Well? 216 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: Man, I came to faith as a senior in high 217 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: school a very unconventional way, never step foot in the church. 218 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: One day in my life, my neighbor across the street 219 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: was like, hey, bro, we're having a lock in. 220 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 2: You want to come. 221 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: I was like, what does that mean? He goes, We're 222 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: going to go to the church and that they lock 223 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 1: you in for the night. I'm like no oh, and 224 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: he was like he goes, but he said, but you 225 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,839 Speaker 1: get to stay up all night and they feed you 226 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: and you get to play games. I'm like, in and 227 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: it's the first time I ever heard about Jesus Man. 228 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: It's the first time that that seed had ever been 229 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: playing it in my life. And then that led to 230 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: me starting to consume my Bible. That led to me 231 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: to a teacher that I had in my junior year 232 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: of high school, Mark Watson, who was a physics teacher. 233 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: And every day I came in, Man, I have a 234 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: very big spiritual gift, Michael, the gift of being annoying. 235 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 2: It's trust me. My family completely agrees with it. 236 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: But the way he handled me and cared for me 237 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: and was so so like just unbelievably graceful, full of grace, 238 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: full of mercy, full of positivity. I was like, something's 239 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: different about this dude. And he played praise and worship 240 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: music before before classes at a public school, and he 241 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: had a Jesus fish. I called him a Jesus free 242 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: And so for senior reading for outside for an outside book, 243 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: I chose. I'm like, hey, I want to read the 244 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: Bible and I want to figure out about the Bible. 245 00:10:59,920 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: And my English teacher said no, and I was like, well, 246 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: I said, mister Watson will sit down with me if 247 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: I do and make sure I read, and she goes 248 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: if you talked to him, I said no, but I 249 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: bet he will and show enough he did, and he 250 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: took me through Matthew, Mark Luke, and John. And if 251 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 1: you are a new believer, please start in Matthew, Mark, Luke, 252 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: and John. Do not start in the Old Testament. You're 253 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: ed to start spinning in circles and you'll be just 254 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: really confused. But but I tell people, I love to 255 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 1: tell people Michael that all the time, because here's the thing. 256 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: Anyone can invite anyone to church. Anyone can invite anyone 257 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: to Bible study. Everyone has that capacity. You can let 258 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: the preacher do the work like anyone can do that. 259 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: So you out there to say I'm not I'm not 260 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: an evel evangelicist. That's not my gift. Okay, well your gift. 261 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: Can you can send a text message. I know that, 262 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: like you can send an invite and then two a 263 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: life worth, a life lived worth emulating like Mark Watson 264 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: lived a life that I was Like, something's different, and friends, 265 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 1: that's the most important thing that we ever do. 266 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 2: Like the way we live our life is the. 267 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: Biggest way we will ever have for anyone else around us, 268 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: because everybody's watching. And when it's different, and when it's 269 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,719 Speaker 1: spirit fit led, and when it's joy led, and when 270 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: it's forgiveness and grace like people are like, wait a minute, 271 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: that's different. 272 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 2: Why why do you feel that way? 273 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: And so those were two things, man, that I share 274 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: with people all the time, like, that's why I came 275 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: to Christ. 276 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 3: And those are two things that we all can do 277 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 3: and all can control. Yeah, somebody invited you. That's incredible. 278 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 3: I assumed that you were a church going person all 279 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 3: your life. That's a great story, unbelievable, inspiring. We were 280 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 3: going to also talk about the fact that seems like 281 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 3: there's a revival of. 282 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 2: Sorts going on among athletes today. 283 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 3: You know, when I was growing up, there was Reddy White, 284 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 3: there was Kurt Warner, there was Tim Tebow fifteen years 285 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 3: ago or so, and now it seems like everybody's a 286 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 3: Tim Tebow. What has happened in the sports world, in 287 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 3: the football world as well, that there are so many 288 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 3: young men and women now proclaiming Christ unashamed and publicly. 289 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 2: What happened, David? I think a couple of things have happened. 290 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: One, we live in a world now where everyone has 291 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: access to a camera and a microphone. Yeah, right here 292 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: on the phone. Everyone has a camera and a microphone. 293 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: So and everyone feels like they need to know you 294 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: and who you are and what you stand for. 295 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 2: And so when you have people that are inquisitive about. 296 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: Who you are, what you are, what you stand for, 297 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: and you have a microphone and you have a camera, 298 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: I think it's just it's going to naturally come out 299 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: more and more. I do think people have been so 300 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: bold about their faith and our country's going through more 301 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: and more of a revival that I think it allows 302 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: others to feel safe to be in bolden to share, 303 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: because let's be honest, there was also a big time 304 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: in our country when we did share, we were looked 305 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: at like something was wrong with us, and we were 306 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: harassed and we were looked at in a negative light. 307 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: Thank God, things in our country I think have kind 308 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 1: of shifted and you're seeing all sides, whether you like 309 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: it or not, Like whether you like the green side, 310 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: the red side, the blue side, whatever side it is, right, like, 311 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: you get to see all sides in all types. 312 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 2: And so I'm very. 313 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: Encouraged man by the people that are willing to share 314 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 1: their faith and share it boldly. 315 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 2: And sometimes it used to be like yeah, like God thing, 316 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 2: God thing. 317 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: I hear a lot of Jesus Man, and that puts 318 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: a smile on my face, man, because it's not again. 319 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: I think for a long time, man, people thought that 320 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: Christianity was a rigid, hard set of rules and you 321 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: needed to do X, Y and Z, and I think 322 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: people are starting to realize, Man, it's the freeing way 323 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: to live. 324 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 2: It's not a captive way. It's a revolutionary way. 325 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: It's a freeing way that allows you to be you 326 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: and understand like, at the same time, you ain't perfect, 327 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: and I don't expect you to be perfect, Like, this 328 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: is not a religion of perfection, like there was one 329 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: that was perfect for us. 330 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 2: We were all messed up. That's why it took him right. 331 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 2: So I think it's been cool to see that shift. 332 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 2: Let's talk about a couple more things in your life. 333 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 2: You host a podcast, the Seaball Get Ball Podcast. Tell 334 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 2: us briefly about that. 335 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: To college football podcast, Man, college football is the greatest 336 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: sport of the planet to me. You know, we just 337 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: talk about football, and it's in a very different way. 338 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 2: No agendas. We don't do gambling. It's just not our thing. 339 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 2: Like we are. 340 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: We are going to talk about the game. We're not 341 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: going to talk about point spreads. We're gonna talk about 342 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: how much we love and who we think is gonna win, 343 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: all that good stuff, but we're not gonna talk about that, 344 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: And we don't talk about some of the other stuff 345 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: too when it comes, so we don't curse. 346 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 2: You know, my son one of the most proudest things 347 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 2: I am, Michael of my my son listens to my podcast. 348 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: He's seventeen, so it's kind of surprising that he would 349 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: listen to it. But I just love the fact that 350 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: I'm not sharing gambling stuff with him. I'm not sharing alcohol, 351 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: I'm not cursing all the time, like it's a safe, 352 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: family friendly thing. 353 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 2: But man, I just love ball. 354 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: I love getting my buddies on from college game day 355 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: to coaches all across the country. Like this offseason, we're 356 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: doing every new coach that took a job in the 357 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: power for every single one of them, and we're working 358 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: our way through and it has nothing to do with football. Michael, Like, 359 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: I'm literally like, hey, what makes you tick? Like why 360 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: are you sitting in this chair? Who's he's the first 361 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: person you called when you've got this job? Like what 362 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: do you do with your family? What's your family fun time? 363 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: You know? Like what made you you? Like just kind 364 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: of getting to know the guys on a deeper level. 365 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: So it's a lot of fun to do, and it's 366 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: kind of fun to control it yourself by being your podcast. 367 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 3: Absolutely Seaball Getball, that's the name of that podcast. And 368 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 3: finally you have a foundation, the Pollock Family Foundation. I know, 369 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 3: I don't know a lot about that. Tell us about that. 370 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's me and my wife started at about twelve years 371 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: ago and it's evolved over time. But man, just trying 372 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: to find a way to plug into the community. We've 373 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: been given so much and so much that we don't deserve, 374 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: that we do not deserve, and we want to find 375 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: a way to give back. 376 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 2: And we do a lot of different programs real quick. 377 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: The one I'm most proud of we do it in 378 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: downtown Athens the Sunday of Thanksgiving every year and it's 379 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: called Banquet of Blessings. It comes from Luke, but literally 380 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: we bust in some homeless in the area in the 381 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 1: surrounding area and then all the needy comes in and 382 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: they get a home cook meal that can throw down 383 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: for ages and all the pies, the coffee, the collars, 384 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 1: everything that goes with it, and then they get to 385 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: walk through a line. Man, they all get brand new coachs, 386 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: brand new book bags, brand new books, toys, bull socks, beanies, scarves, 387 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: gloves like you just go down the line. And we 388 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: just want them to know, man, that people we care 389 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: about you, you loved, you matter. And all the high 390 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 1: school kids that I coach in football and basketball and 391 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: then we've coached for all these years telling them that, like, 392 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: you're not to blame for where you're at. Like I 393 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: told my son all the time, I'm pointing over there 394 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: to these kids like look at like you're just going 395 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: to a different family, Like that's the only difference between 396 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: you and them. They were born into something different, but 397 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 1: if you don't do something about. 398 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 2: It, you are to blame. 399 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: And so just being able to plug in and try 400 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 1: to make a difference man, and be the hands and 401 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: feet you know here in Athens, in our backyard and 402 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: across the southeast, that's definitely something that we're passionate about. 403 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 2: David. 404 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 3: As long as I've seen you on TV, you've always 405 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 3: been high energy and optimistic. Have you always been like 406 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 3: this or does that come from your faith? 407 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 2: I'm just curious about you personally. 408 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, God definitely wired me this way. I've had some 409 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: people ask me like that, Like I've always been really 410 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: really high energy, and I've always been optimistic, and I've 411 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: always been very confident, borderline cocky, pompous, butthole definitely cross 412 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 1: that line a bunch along the way, man. But like 413 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: I think that I love to chase, I love to 414 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: go after goals, I love to dream big. I love 415 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: to work, and so you know, all those things kind 416 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: of come together and all your different passions, and man, 417 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: I never thought I'd do what a blessing to be 418 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 1: able to be an NFL player, a college football player, 419 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: to write a kid's book, to write a book, to 420 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: be on TV, to I just did a movie recently. 421 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 2: I've never done that before, like, which was really really cool. 422 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,239 Speaker 2: It's a small part in a movie, but like I 423 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 2: love to do. 424 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: My wife says it all the times, like you just 425 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: love to have seven things going, don't you, And I'm like. 426 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. I don't mind. 427 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: I don't mind working and being I'm busy and God 428 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: definitely gave. 429 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 2: Me plenty of energy. That's awesome. David Pollocks have been 430 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 2: our guests. He's the author of the new book Every 431 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 2: Day Counts. 432 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: David, thanks so much you and Man Michael, thank you about. 433 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 4: If you enjoy today's interview, please make sure to subscribe 434 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 4: and share the episode with a friend. A big thanks 435 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 4: to the team at Life Audio for their partnership with 436 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 4: us on the podcast. 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