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Speaker 1: Live from the Liberty University Studio in Memphis, Tennessee. It's

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Speaker 1: common sense conservative commentary from Todd Starsta love this American.

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Speaker 2: Well, Hello Americans, I'm Todd Stearns. Happy Friday to you,

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Speaker 2: and welcome to the Todd Starns Show. We are in

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Speaker 2: for a great three hours of conversation today. However, I

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Speaker 2: will not be behind the microphone. I have a few

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Speaker 2: things meetings that I've got to attend to on this Friday,

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Speaker 2: So I've asked my great friend Jeff Stein from radio

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Speaker 2: station kx EL, are great affiliate there in Iowa, to

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Speaker 2: fill in today. He has a wonderful show lined up

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Speaker 2: for you, ladies and gentlemen, the great Jeff Stein.

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Speaker 3: The studio audience is on its feet. Who Starns. It

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Speaker 3: is always a privilege to join you from the Liberty

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Speaker 3: University Studio at my home base, News Talk fifteen to

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Speaker 3: forty KXL in Cedar, Rapids and Waterloo, Iowa. A fifty

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Speaker 3: thousand watt blow torch scorching the heartland with accurate news

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Speaker 3: and reasonable views. America's anchorman, Well, you gotta pay the bills.

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Speaker 3: He's got business meetings today. He'll be back with you

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Speaker 3: on Monday, and it is my privilege to join you

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Speaker 3: on an open line Friday, so please why not dial

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Speaker 3: nine oh one two six oh five nine two six,

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Speaker 3: same number as always, and you can join our coast

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Speaker 3: to coast conversation at nine oh one two six oh

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Speaker 3: five nine two six. We'll take your calls this half hour.

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Speaker 3: At the bottom of the hour will be joined by

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Speaker 3: the presidential historian and author Craig Shirley. He has a

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Speaker 3: brand new book on the twenty twenty four election called Upheaval,

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Speaker 3: A Clash of Cultures. It will be released soon. And again,

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Speaker 3: mister Shirley, the Reagan biographer worked for mister Reagan as well.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk with him about things going on in Trump

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Speaker 3: world and that new book called Upheaval. Craig Shirley joins

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Speaker 3: us in about a half hour your calls in and

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Speaker 3: around all that at nine oh one two six oh

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Speaker 3: five nine two six. I was with you two weeks ago,

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Speaker 3: and I leaned on Congress a little bit, and some

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Speaker 3: of you were kind enough to send me email messages,

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Speaker 3: and I still have to get back to a few

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Speaker 3: of you. So I apologize for that, but saying that

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Speaker 3: maybe we shouldn't be quite so hard on some of them.

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Speaker 3: Maybe we shouldn't toss them out. I'm likening an election,

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Speaker 3: and it's always this way, but this year in particular,

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Speaker 3: I'm likening the election to a performance review. Now, when

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Speaker 3: I first started work as a lawyer, I would go

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Speaker 3: in once a year for a yearly performance review and

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Speaker 3: they would go through the things that you did during

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Speaker 3: the year at the end and they'd decide if you

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Speaker 3: got a raise or whatever the situation was. And part

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Speaker 3: is because I was all of twenty five years old

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Speaker 3: review once a year, and you'd be thinking everything's going

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Speaker 3: well because nobody had said anything to you all along

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Speaker 3: during the year. And then you get there at that meeting,

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Speaker 3: and maybe because the bosses were a little cheap and

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Speaker 3: didn't want to give you a raise, they'd just start

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Speaker 3: mentioning every little picky thing that they didn't like. And

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Speaker 3: it was an odd situation because you're feeling good going

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Speaker 3: in then they kind of knock you down with these

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Speaker 3: little picky things, and they say, but you're doing a

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Speaker 3: great job, and here's your three percent raise. If you

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Speaker 3: satisfying experience because it did not give you a real

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Speaker 3: sense of how things were going well. I think we

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Speaker 3: have a responsibility to Congress, our members of Congress, to

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Speaker 3: let them know how they're doing short of the November election.

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Speaker 3: In other words, you have a chance to fire folks.

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Speaker 3: Think about a business. Let's say you ran a business

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Speaker 3: here are some areas where we need to see some improvement.

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Speaker 3: Here are some things that you need to do, and

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Speaker 3: if not, action may need to be taken. So here

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Speaker 3: We are speaking on the radio on Friday, January sixteenth

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Speaker 3: of this still new year twenty twenty six, two weeks

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Speaker 3: The House has been nursing along some spending bills, quite bloated,

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Speaker 3: It seems that it's our responsibility because, contrary to what

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Speaker 3: put them there, our money pays their salaries. We are

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Speaker 3: the boss. So in every election year they point out

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Speaker 3: How about you do some of that because I'm not

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Speaker 3: feeling an awful lot of productivity. I'll come back to

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Speaker 3: that in a moment, but it's the people's work that

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Speaker 3: they're supposed to be doing. So how about you show

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Speaker 3: us that you want to retain your job. You want

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Speaker 3: to keep working for us, how about you take action

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Speaker 3: to Oh, I don't know, do the thing that's four

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Speaker 3: months overdue. But instead, here we come with a national

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Speaker 3: holiday on Monday. Good luck finding members of Congress. They're

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Speaker 3: busy on fact finding tours and home district meetings and

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Speaker 3: all manner of other things, anything short of actually making

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Speaker 3: tough decisions. And again, as I have pointed out, and

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Speaker 3: I know Todd has been preaching from the pulpit on

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Speaker 3: this as well, don't tell me you're a big supporter

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Speaker 3: of Donald Trump. Don't tell me that you're America first.

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Speaker 3: Don't tell me all of these things. Show me through

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Speaker 3: your action. Show me. We are running into a situation

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Speaker 3: again where it is every man or woman for themselves,

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Speaker 3: twenty eighteen. And I've told you this before, but I'll

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Speaker 3: be brief. Paul Ryan was the Speaker of the House

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Speaker 3: and he was going all around the country saying, don't

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Speaker 3: blame the House. We've passed four hundred bills. They're sitting

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Speaker 3: Don't hold it against our members. Starting to hear that

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Speaker 3: same thing come out of Washington. All the House is

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Speaker 3: past this, can't control the Senate. Sorry, here's the thing

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Speaker 3: that they miss. We, as the voters, look at them,

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Speaker 3: time for this to be turned aroun out. But just

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Speaker 3: but I think you have potential. I hired you for

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Speaker 3: make this work. Here's what you need to do, and

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Speaker 3: here's your deadline. Ultimately, the deadline is either a primary election,

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Speaker 3: election first deadline though it is two weeks from today.

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Speaker 3: So if you're the voter, you're the boss. How about

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Speaker 3: letting them know. Ah, they never listen to me. They

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Speaker 3: I get that. But even at the state and local level,

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Speaker 3: And you are the boss of them, as you'll point

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Todd Starn Show from the Liberty

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Speaker 3: up where I left off before the break. I was

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Speaker 3: but they are taking the entire next week off. The

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Speaker 3: But it's it's an odd, odd combination of things if

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Speaker 3: nine twelfths of the government. Remember they passed three spending

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Speaker 3: His new book is called Upheaval, A Clash of Cultures.

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Speaker 3: thanks so much for taking the time. Happy New Year, Jeff,

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Speaker 4: Happy New Year? Happy Friday?

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Speaker 3: Happy Upheaval. In fact, this book comes out is it June?

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Speaker 3: Through Humanics Books?

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Speaker 3: All right, So talk about the access that you had

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Speaker 4: Oh, I had John McLaughlin, who is Donald Trump's favorite bolster,

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Speaker 4: That reminds me of something Tom Brokaw once said. He said,

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Speaker 3: Upheaval a clash of cultures. The untold story of one

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Speaker 3: You can pre order right now and then enjoy it

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Speaker 3: that you accurately note that is shaping public perception of

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Speaker 4: No, you hit the nail right on the head. Is

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Speaker 4: Patriotism has made a big comeback. Is that there are

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Speaker 3: So does the Trump movement? Does that extend beyond Trump?

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Speaker 3: And I asked that for a as a comparative question,

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Speaker 3: because you worked for mister Reagan. The trick was, how

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Speaker 3: do you have the Reagan Revolution continue on a lot

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Speaker 3: of people? And I'm not trying to get to the

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Speaker 3: next election by any stretch, but again, how how sustainable

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Speaker 3: is the movement, especially if it is, as you know,

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Speaker 3: a clash of cultures.

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Speaker 4: That is an excellent question, you know. I think first

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Speaker 4: of all is that is Doald Trump has to stay

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Speaker 4: in motion? And he understands he's studying motion politics. Reye's

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Speaker 4: old campaign manager, John Sears once coined the phrase politics' motion.

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Speaker 4: And Donald Trump is always in motion on Venezuela and

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Speaker 4: spending on you know, credit card limit, limits on interest

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Speaker 4: Trump and out of the White House. It makes it

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Speaker 4: hard for him to hit because he's moved so quickly.

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Speaker 4: The Democrats can't gather together enough forces to take him on.

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Speaker 4: So that's number one. Number two is depends, of course,

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Speaker 4: on the success if the economy continues to grow, if

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Speaker 4: the stock mark continues to grow if he continues to

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Speaker 4: act as the agent of peace. I mean, think of this,

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Speaker 4: just this one, Jeff, this one piece of information. The

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Speaker 4: winner of the Nobel Peace Prize, this wonderful woman from Venezuela,

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Speaker 4: gave her peace prize to Donald Trump. That just speaks

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Speaker 4: volumes to us. Is that what the winner of the

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Speaker 4: Nobel Peace Prize thinks of what Donald Trump did in

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Speaker 4: Venezuela and getting rid of Madua and bring peace and

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Speaker 4: freedom and restoring pre market to venezuel I mean, it's

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Speaker 4: a monumental thing what he did, and it is a

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Speaker 4: monumental thing what she did in recognizing what he did.

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Speaker 3: I noted this previously on the radio, but think of

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Speaker 4: I thought that, Yeah, different points of the culture, aren't they.

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Speaker 3: And it just shows I thought that was just a

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Speaker 3: great example of this is Trump world where both can

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Speaker 3: Part for crying out loud.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely, And you know what is that he's going

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Speaker 4: You know, this is again just the example of the

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Speaker 4: Nobel Peace Prize and her awarding. It is first of

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Speaker 4: all the bubble elites, what I call the bubble elites,

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Speaker 4: know are don't have our best interested heart. They have

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Speaker 4: the elite's interested heart, which is power and money. That's

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Speaker 4: all they care about. Is that is that there's such

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Speaker 4: and it's so infuriating to the hearts of the elites

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Speaker 4: of America. It's just again, it crystallizes the difference between

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Speaker 4: what I write about in this book, Upheaval, which is

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Speaker 4: the clash of the two cultures.

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Speaker 3: The book is released on June second, Do yourself a

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Speaker 3: favor order now Humanics Books, the publisher. Upheaval, A Clash

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Speaker 3: of Cultures forthcoming by Craig Shirley. Mister Shirley, it's always

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Speaker 3: a privilege. Thank you so much for taking the time

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Speaker 3: and always look forward to talking to you soon.

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Speaker 4: Likewise, have a good weekend you as well.

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Speaker 3: And Craig Shirley, the presidential historian and New York Times

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Liberty University Studio and this open

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Speaker 3: line Friday edition of the Todd Starns Show. Jeff Stein

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Speaker 3: filling in for Todd. Call us at nine oh one

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Speaker 3: Just after the top of the hour, the great Newsmax

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Speaker 3: correspondent James Rosen will be here. He's the chief Washington

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Speaker 3: a new book coming out as well next month. James

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Speaker 3: Rosenough Newsmax scheduled to join us just after the top

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Speaker 3: of the hour, you know, as Craig Shirley was talking

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Speaker 3: and I do like that term because again, these are

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Speaker 3: the world. Now, as you know, most likely because of

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Speaker 3: way before the twenty twenty Iowa presidential precinct caucuses. She

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Speaker 3: had all the wind at her sales, big fluffy profiles

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Speaker 3: with an audience to save her life. Certainly didn't save

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Speaker 3: Ostensibly she needed to be in Washington to see if

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Speaker 3: she could get Donald Trump impeached and thrown out from office.

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Speaker 3: But the bottom line was the campaign was a shambles

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Speaker 3: because she just didn't connect with people. She didn't know

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Speaker 3: You got to actually meet the people, and you have

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Speaker 3: to talk to the people, and you can't hide the

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Speaker 3: fact that you don't like people, or that you think

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Speaker 3: And as mister Shirley pointed out, the heartland is the

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Speaker 3: think they know better than anybody else, there's no way

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Speaker 3: there is a huge irony. Trump has money, you know that, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean, he did pretty well for himself in business.

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Speaker 3: He's got money. Yet he connects much better with the

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Speaker 3: it's the ironic thing about him. He can sit there

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Speaker 3: because he likes people. So the fact that he's the

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Speaker 3: because they don't know how to connect with workers. They're

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Speaker 3: of time and again, it's that sense of we know

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Speaker 3: much more than you do, and it drives most of

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Speaker 3: Really tired of Congress in essence not doing anything, and

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Speaker 3: they just seem to think that if they outlast Trump,

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Speaker 3: they'll stay in power. I know Todd has talked about this.

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Speaker 3: These folks who have our by their names, they're not

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Speaker 3: really supporting this president. They're kind of hoping a lot

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Speaker 3: of them that, yeah, he's there, that's fine. If we

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Speaker 3: can just passify him well enough, bump along, then we'll

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Speaker 3: be back to the old times, the old country club

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Speaker 3: Republicans can return. I don't think the voters are going

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Speaker 3: And I think history will show who's on the right

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Speaker 3: these folks who are business as usual Republicans. Now, I

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Speaker 3: don't agree with everything that the President advocates. I don't

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Speaker 3: agree with every way he goes about things. But again

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Speaker 3: from the hypocrisy department, I'm tired of hearing these Republicans

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Speaker 3: talk about they're going to be the best friend Trump

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Speaker 3: ever had, with nothing to back that up other than

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Speaker 3: their words. Similarly, those affected by Trump Arrangement syndrome, nothing

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Speaker 3: that Trump does is right in their view, Well, that's

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Speaker 3: not right either. I would like to hope that the

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Speaker 3: or we elect to represent us. Now it's about us,

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Speaker 3: all right, Think about them? Then dial up. In the

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Speaker 3: next hour of Open Line Friday nine oh one two

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Speaker 3: six oh five, nine two six, James Rosen of Newsmax

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Speaker 3: from the Liberty University Studio. After this break, Jeff Stein

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Speaker 3: in for Todd. Our one done of this edition of

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Speaker 3: the Todd Starns.

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Speaker 1: Show, live from the Liberty University Studio in Memphis, Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: It's America's conservative blowtorch.

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Speaker 2: That's that's American. Todd starts, well, Hello Americans, I'm Todd Starns.

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Speaker 2: Happy Friday to you, and welcome to the Todd Starns Show.

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Speaker 2: We are in for a great three hours of conversation today. However,

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Speaker 2: a few things meetings that I've got to attend to

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Speaker 2: on this Friday. So I've asked my great friend Jeff

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Speaker 2: to fill in today. He has a wonderful show lined

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Speaker 2: up for you, ladies and gentlemen, the great Jeff Stine, and.

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Speaker 3: Once again the crowd goes wild. Hello, fellow Patriot's good

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Speaker 3: to be with you from the Liberty University studio today,

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Speaker 3: in the next segment, but now let's go right to

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Speaker 3: the Patriot Mobile Newsmaker line. And it is always a

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Speaker 3: privilege to welcome the chief Washington correspondent for Newsmax, the

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Speaker 3: great James Rosen, to the program. Mister Rosen, Happy New

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Speaker 3: Year to you, sir.

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Speaker 5: And to you Jeff. Thanks for bringing me back home.

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Speaker 3: Well never a dull moment the life of James Rosen.

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Speaker 3: You've spent the morning with one of the most popular

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Speaker 5: I know you're not referring to the Newsmax assignment desk folks,

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Speaker 5: so yes. In fact, just moments ago, I was at

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Speaker 5: her opposition efforts in Venezuela, where she is widely regarded

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Speaker 5: which I could only dimly comprehend, but she said at

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Speaker 5: one point that she is profoundly confident that there will

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Speaker 5: be a transition to democracy in Venezuela in the not

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Speaker 5: too distant future. All she said about her meeting yesterday

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Speaker 3: It's a tricky situation for the White House because you've

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Speaker 3: got some one who is president now elevated when Maduro

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Speaker 5: Well, the administration once had settled on the plan of

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Speaker 5: Once that decision was settled on, the administration had only

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Speaker 5: to try and install opposition leaders as the new head

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Speaker 5: remnants of the Maduro regime following the decapitation of that regime,

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Speaker 5: if you will. According to published reporting, intelligence Community advised

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Speaker 5: to President Trump that in its assessment, Maria Cunina Machado,

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Speaker 5: So that meant that really the president's only option was

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Speaker 5: And the question that's been raised ever since about Delci Rodriguez,

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Speaker 5: under Nicholas Madodo, who is now the president, and who

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Speaker 5: questions that have been raised about Delta Rodriguez have centered

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Speaker 5: on one fundamental concern, which is what if she doesn't

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Speaker 5: play ball? What if she does not work cooperatively with

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Speaker 5: the Trump administration to evict Russian Chinese and a running

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Speaker 5: interest from the country. What if she does not work

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Speaker 5: with the Trump administration to renovate the oil industry there.

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Speaker 5: And I think the more profound question, Jeff, is well

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Speaker 5: if she can't, because after all, we are asking of

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Speaker 5: Delcia Rodriguez, and the president reports that she has been compliant,

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Speaker 5: but nonetheless we are asking of her that she work

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Speaker 5: by which she and her boss prop themselves up in

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Speaker 5: power for the past decade or more. And it's not

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Speaker 5: clear that any political leader in Delcia Rodriguez's position could

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Speaker 5: pull that off necessarily. It also doesn't require Jeff a

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Speaker 5: robust imagination to conjure readily a number of scenarios by

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Speaker 5: which this entire adventure could go haywire and bring President

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Speaker 5: Trump and his party real grief as the midterm elections approach. So,

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Speaker 5: for example, what happens we know that with so much

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Speaker 5: of the Maduro infrastructure left in place, that that will

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Speaker 5: of some kind. What will happen when the first act

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Speaker 5: of sabotage strikes a major oil installation in the country.

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Speaker 5: What will happen if that claims the lives of Americans?

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Speaker 5: What will happen if American oil executives or others that

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Speaker 5: we send down to participate in this transition are harmed

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Speaker 5: taking hostage? You know, and if you've watched Black Mirror,

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Speaker 5: you know what happens when the first you know, this

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Speaker 5: is grizzly, but the first finger is sent back to

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Speaker 5: the United States from an American hostage. All this would create,

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Speaker 5: any one of these scenarios would create enormous pressure political

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Speaker 5: pressure on President Trump to respond, and this could become

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Speaker 5: a much stickier set of circumstances than it even is

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Speaker 5: right now.

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Speaker 3: James Rosen is Chief Washington correspondent for News. Maxie joins

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Speaker 3: us on the Patriot Mobile newsmaker line on the Todd

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Speaker 3: Starn Show, Jeff Stein filling in, well, as if all

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Speaker 3: that weren't thorny enough, we've got Iran. What should we

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Speaker 3: be watching over the next I don't know, seventy two

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Speaker 5: I suspect that we will all have our eyes glued

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Speaker 5: to social media, as we more or less do every

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Speaker 5: minute of our day to begin with. But there you

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Speaker 5: will find the evidence or the developments that, if they occur,

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Speaker 5: would tip the President's hand towards following through on his

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Speaker 5: spread of military actions. The President had made clear in

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Speaker 5: a number of different venues that if the Iranians responded

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Speaker 5: order military action against Iran, and we even went so

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Speaker 5: far as to say, in all caps on true social

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Speaker 5: help is on the way. But the President appears, at

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Speaker 5: least for the moments, who have drawn back from that intention.

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Speaker 5: And by way of explanation for that slightly amended posture,

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Speaker 5: the White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt said it yesterday's

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Speaker 5: White House Press Briefing that the President had received assurances

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Speaker 5: from the very credible source inside Iran that the regime

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Speaker 5: has now halted the planned executions of eight hundred people

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Speaker 5: now the deaththole from the response to these uprisings. This

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Speaker 5: recent wave of uprising over the past two to three

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Speaker 5: weeks has varied in different estimates, from five hundred to

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Speaker 5: as a dubious basis on which to predicate presidential decision made.

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Speaker 5: It was Wendy Sherman, who was a top State Department

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Speaker 5: of the Iran the Obama era Iran nuclear deal. They

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Speaker 5: we should be taking these kinds of proclamations from inside

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Speaker 5: truly horrifying images of Iranian repression in the streets, I

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Speaker 5: think that would have a significant impact on President Trump's

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Speaker 5: decision made.

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Speaker 3: I've only got about a minute left, and you've got

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Speaker 3: another fantastic volume in the Antonin Scalia biographies. You started

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Speaker 3: with Rise to Greatness, and the first volume about the

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Speaker 3: Supreme Court years that's coming out in just a few weeks.

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Speaker 5: You're very kind to mention it, Jeff. Yes, Volume two

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Speaker 5: in my three volume biography of the late Justice Antonin

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Speaker 5: Sculia will come out February tenth. You can pre order

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Speaker 5: it right now on Amazon and everywhere else you go.

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Speaker 5: The name of the book is Scalia Supreme Court Years

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Speaker 5: nineteen eighty six to two thousand and one, and the

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Speaker 5: first volume, which was published three years ago, took us

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Speaker 5: coming out February ten, packed with interviews and new documents

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Speaker 5: and lots of revelations about Antonin Scalia's life and career

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Speaker 5: and his faith. This new volume covers the first half

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Speaker 5: of his thirty years on the Supreme Court, so it

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Speaker 5: up right up through the national trauma of Bush v. Gore,

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Speaker 5: which neatly bisects and ends the first half of Justice

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Speaker 5: Scalia's tenure. There sits today. I should point out to you, Jeff,

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Speaker 5: the Bush b. Gore case, and that is Clarence Thomas.

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Speaker 5: And gosh, that was a bracing realization for this reporter.

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Speaker 5: I'd like to think of Bush v. Gore as modern history,

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Speaker 5: but maybe that's a luxury you and I can't afford

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Speaker 5: any more.

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Speaker 3: Jeff, I look in the mirror every day and agree

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Speaker 3: with you, sir. Now here's what you do, folks. Wherever

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Speaker 3: you get your good books, you pre order Scalia Supreme

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Speaker 3: Court Years at the same time you order if you've

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Speaker 3: not already purchased a copy of Scalia Rise to Greatness,

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Speaker 3: so you can read volume one and you'll have that

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Speaker 3: in your part, sir.

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Speaker 5: I like the way you think, Jeff. And also I

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Speaker 5: want to point out these books are available on in

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Speaker 5: audio versions on Chirpin and wherever you get audio books

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Speaker 5: as well.

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Speaker 3: James Rosen, it is always a privilege. I know you've

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Speaker 3: been missing the assignment desk at Newsmax and the fund

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Speaker 3: that ensues there, so I'll let you get back to it.

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Speaker 3: Great appreciation for your work and your time, and thanks

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Speaker 3: for joining us here today.

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Speaker 5: Back at you, Jeff.

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: James Rosen is chief Washington correspondent for Newsmax and again

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Speaker 3: the second volume in his three volume series biography of

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Speaker 3: Anteline Scalia Supreme Court Years, that is released February tenth.

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Speaker 3: Mobile Newsmaker line. We'll return to the Liberty University Studio

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Speaker 3: in just a moment, Jeff Stein in for Todd. This

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Speaker 3: does include Facebook, because as the Boss said, we need

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Speaker 3: to nine oh one two six h five nine two six.

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00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 3: Washington d C. Has got to be a fascinating place

861
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 3: these days because you have so many entrenched people whose

862
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 3: heads are exploding on a daily basis because of Donald Trump.

863
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 3: And I just love that. I I love stirring it

864
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 3: up just a little bit in that respect. And you know,

865
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 3: nobody can get too comfortable for too long. But as

866
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 3: I mentioned in the last hour, the Stanley Cup and

867
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 3: the Nobel Peace Prize both under the same rough on

868
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 3: the same day, and we just look at it as

869
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 3: another day in Trump two point zero and the Florida

870
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 3: Panthers were the incumbent Stanley Cup Champs. So they were

871
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 3: there and did the normal presentation of a hockey sweater

872
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 3: with forty seven on it, et cetera. But it sure

873
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 3: looked like there was a bunch of guys happy to

874
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 3: be there. You know, there's a difference between we were

875
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:11,240
Speaker 3: drug here and we're going to be moderately respectful. Difference

876
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:15,240
Speaker 3: between that and it's really cool to talk to this guy.

877
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 3: And that's what the hockey players seem to be expressing,

878
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 3: so many of them wearing bright red neckties on the

879
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 3: day the president didn't. I found that interesting, but red

880
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:32,280
Speaker 3: is one of the team colors, and it's just different.

881
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 3: And this is not to say better, worse, whatever. I

882
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 3: do find that on virtually a daily basis, even if

883
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,439
Speaker 3: it's something that I don't agree with that mister Trump

884
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 3: has done, I can't help but compare and think what

885
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:56,720
Speaker 3: predecessor would have done it this way? What predecessor would

886
00:56:56,840 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 3: have held court with the press multiple times a day

887
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 3: in the Oval office like he does, What president would

888
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 3: do any manner of these things? And again some of

889
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 3: them you look and say, oh my gosh, what president

890
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 3: would have done? Some of this, But it's part of

891
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 3: the whole, and it's part of what is shaking up

892
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 3: what needs to be shaken up. And again, to my

893
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 3: friends on the far left, and I do have some,

894
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 3: they're just beside themselves. I have a longtime professional acquaintance

895
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 3: who does radio on the far left side of the spectrum,

896
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 3: and to him, everything comes back to the Epstein files.

897
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 3: And I have said to him privately and on air,

898
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 3: you know, I respect what you think, but holy cow,

899
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 3: there's nothing there. And if there is, I'll admit that

900
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 3: I was wrong. But there's nothing there. You keep going

901
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 3: back to everything that mister Trump is doing now now

902
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 3: is to avoid anyone paying attention to the Epstein files.

903
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 3: I just don't see it. But again, it feeds into

904
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 3: a narrative of what they want. They want to have

905
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 3: him hauled out the door. They want to have his

906
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 3: people abandoned him for some heinous offense, et cetera. And

907
00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 3: it really gets in the way, frankly, of it colors

908
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 3: their judgment. And that's how we get the craziness that

909
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 3: we have out there. Nine oh one two six oh five,

910
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 3: nine two six. You're not crazy. You've got good thoughts.

911
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 3: And I'd love to hear him on this open line

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Speaker 3: Friday from the Liberty University Studio shortbreak. Now back on

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Speaker 3: the other side with your calls.

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Speaker 7: I'm Jeff Stein, and this is the todd S Darn

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Speaker 7: Show and.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Liberty University Studio and an open

917
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 3: line Friday edition of the Todd Starn Show. Jeff Stein

918
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 3: filling in for Todd today. He'll be back on Monday.

919
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 3: So this is twenty twenty six, and that means we

920
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 3: have radio shows that you hear on the radio, but

921
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 3: there are also so many other ways that you can

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Speaker 3: consume a radio show these days. Cameron is listening in Dallas,

923
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Speaker 3: Texas by Rumble, that wonderful outlet. Cameron, thanks so much

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00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 3: for calling into the program. How are you today?

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00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 8: I'm good, Jeff. Yeah, Rumble is the one for full outlet.

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Speaker 8: I wanted to call about election and I wanted to

927
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 8: call that election integrity, but you jogged my memory talking

928
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 8: about the Shadow's Nobel Peace Prize yesterday. Yes, Mashado is

929
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 8: a true She's a true hero. She literally risked her

930
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 8: life to promote democracy in her country. I believe she

931
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 8: even had to flee the country. Yes, she really is

932
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 8: a true she really is a true hero. So what

933
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Speaker 8: could be more pathetic than our five year old president.

934
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Speaker 8: He wants a trophy or an award, and she's got

935
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Speaker 8: to give it to him to try to curry favor

936
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Speaker 8: with that piece of garbage. I mean, what's more pathetic

937
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 8: that for you cheering it on?

938
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Speaker 3: Well, I think what's more pathetic is you misunderstanding the situation.

939
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Speaker 3: And thanks for calling. I do appreciate it. She had

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01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 3: the thing framed and said she was presenting it to

941
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 3: President Trump and the American people. So if you Cameron,

942
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 3: if that is your name, and if you really are

943
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 3: calling from Dallas, if you want to disavow your ownership interest,

944
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 3: your one three hundred and twenty millionth ownership interest in

945
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 3: that plaque that someday will hang in a Trump library,

946
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 3: go ahead. I'll take your part. What I'm cheering on

947
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 3: is the fact fact that there's somebody in there who's

948
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 3: trying to do something. Now you may not agree with it,

949
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 3: and that's great. You know, she hands him the medal, okay,

950
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 3: And the fact that the no belfolks said, well, you

951
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 3: cannot transfer it. Nobody transferred anything you can hand and

952
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 3: award anybody. It's just again distraction, and I hope someday

953
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 3: that you can collect the rent that mister Trump owes

954
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 3: you for living in your head. Nine oh one two

955
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:40,959
Speaker 3: six oh five nine two six nine oh one two

956
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 3: six oh five nine two six. Let's talk a little

957
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:51,520
Speaker 3: bit about schools, because this is something that has uh

958
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 3: really affected me. In my state, we have finally turned

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01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 3: some public education things around, and I'd be interested in

960
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 3: hearing legitimately what's going on in some of your parts

961
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Speaker 3: of the world. A few years ago, my state enacted

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Speaker 3: educational saving accounts essays. They're not vouchers. They have the

963
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 3: same basic impact, but it's not a voucher program. The

964
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 3: bottom line is school funding K twelve. School funding is

965
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 3: based on the number of students. Right, The more students

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Speaker 3: you have, the more money you get. There is a

967
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 3: formula in these states where you get a certain amount

968
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 3: of state money based upon how many students you have.

969
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 3: The more students you have, the more money you get.

970
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 3: The fewer students you have, the less money you get. Okay,

971
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Speaker 3: that's how the public school model works. So in my state,

972
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 3: we had a lot of people who said, we don't

973
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 3: like how public schools are handling things, so we're going

974
01:02:55,880 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 3: to allow the dollars to move with the student. Not

975
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 3: one hundred percent, but a significant number of the dollars

976
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 3: move with the students. So if the student open end

977
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 3: rules from a public school in CITYA over to a

978
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 3: public school in city B, the money goes to the

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Speaker 3: new school. The money follows the student. That's what's been

980
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 3: going on all along, because the education lobby made sure

981
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 3: that they had this completely roped up right or roped

982
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 3: in if you will. So now we have educational savings

983
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 3: accounts in my state, so if you want to send

984
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 3: your kid to something other than the public school, you

985
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 3: can do it. Make application, they put the money in

986
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 3: the account. You then use that to help defray the

987
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 3: cost to the private school. Now, when this was coming up,

988
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 3: these public schools all just went ballistic, as you might imagine,

989
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 3: because they said, if you do this, we're going to

990
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 3: lose a ton of money. Well guess what happened. They

991
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 3: did it, and yes they did lose a ton of money.

992
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 3: Because when you're given a choice between the corrupt, indoctrination

993
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 3: public school system that we have now in many places

994
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 3: I'm talking about the hierarchy not necessarily dedicated teachers, when

995
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 3: you've got an option you're going to take it. And

996
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 3: COVID is what led to all of this, because there

997
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 3: was schooling from home and parents got to see actually

998
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 3: what their kids were quote learning or if you're in

999
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 3: Minnesota leaning or leering, I guess it is. So parents

1000
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 3: started saying, wait a second, we don't like all of this.

1001
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 3: We're seeing everything that's happening. So now you have students

1002
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 3: who are going to private education outlets and taking the

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01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 3: state money with them. Here's the thing that I'm I

1004
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 3: can't get a good answer from people about people in

1005
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 3: public education. They were saying, we're going to lose In

1006
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 3: one school district in my state, they were going to

1007
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 3: lose five million dollars a year. Now, if you're so

1008
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 3: darn smart, as these education union supporting people like to claim,

1009
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 3: if you're so darn smart and you warned us that

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01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 3: you'd lose five million dollars and they passed the legislation,

1011
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 3: wouldn't you take steps to adjust your budget. You're the

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01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 3: ones school people who told us, oh my god, if

1013
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 3: you pass this bill, we're going to lose five million dollars.

1014
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 3: They passed the bill, why didn't you adjust your budget?

1015
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 3: So now they're all claiming poverty. But here's what's an

1016
01:05:56,760 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 3: even better exposure of mismanagement. A lot of these same

1017
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 3: schools our showing deficits well above the amount of money

1018
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 3: they lost in school funding. Again, second largest district in

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01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 3: my state, we lost five million of state funding. Our

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01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 3: deficit is ten million. Well, how did that happen? How

1021
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 3: in the world are you running such a huge deficit?

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01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 3: And it's all the big city school districts in my state.

1023
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:32,919
Speaker 3: Eight million here, ten million there, thirteen million there. That's

1024
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 3: the deficit that the public school is running. It is

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01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 3: not all on account of these educational savings accounts and

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01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 3: public dollars. Moving with students they got fewer students shouldn't

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01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 3: be quite as costly. But yet, not only are they

1028
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 3: whining about the money they lost. In many cases, the

1029
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 3: deficit is now double what they claimed they lost. How

1030
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 3: does that work? And in one district they admitted the

1031
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 3: superintendent admitted publicly that she knew in October they would

1032
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 3: be down five million dollars, but she did not say

1033
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 3: anything publicly or to the board of education in October.

1034
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 3: Why because they had a bond issue on the ballot

1035
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 3: in November and they wanted your tax money. They wanted

1036
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 3: your hard earned money, so they did not tell you

1037
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 3: that they were going to be in the hole by

1038
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 3: five million dollars because they didn't want to adversely affect

1039
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:45,600
Speaker 3: their ability to take more money out of your pocket. Now,

1040
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 3: after the bond issue fails, thank you very much, they're saying, huh,

1041
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 3: deficits ten million, we're going to have to close schools.

1042
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 3: We're gonna have nobody's laying off administrators, by the way,

1043
01:07:57,240 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 3: but we're gonna have to do these terrible things. I

1044
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 3: have a feeling they didn't say anything about the deficit

1045
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 3: because they figured, oh, we're going to get a bond

1046
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 3: issue passed, we'll just kind of move money around. I

1047
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 3: just have to assume that's what they were thinking of doing.

1048
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Speaker 3: In other words, friends, it's a Ponzi scheme. An awful

1049
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 3: lot of this stuff, flat out Ponzi scheme. Now. I

1050
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 3: gave you those examples from a state that historically has

1051
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 3: valued education, a state that continues to put more public

1052
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 3: money into education every year than the year prior, never

1053
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 3: as much as the union folks want. There's support for

1054
01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 3: education where I'm at. There always has been. I cannot

1055
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 3: imagine what's going on in some of these big blue cities.

1056
01:08:56,439 --> 01:09:00,160
Speaker 3: I don't know what's going on where you're at, but

1057
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Speaker 3: I share it with you as a bit of a

1058
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 3: cautionary tale to say, those school board meetings are pretty

1059
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 3: darn important, aren't they. Not only is it the education

1060
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Speaker 3: of the next generation. Look where all your tax moneys

1061
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 3: go on? Your property taxes? How viable is your community

1062
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:20,600
Speaker 3: If you've got a failing school, that's not good for

1063
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 3: attracting business and attracting people. The fact that all of

1064
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 3: this is happening at this time shows the failure of

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01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 3: some of these institutions that we used to take for

1066
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Speaker 3: granted as being neutral, that are being run in the

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Speaker 3: shadow of, and often in conjunction with, these big blue

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Speaker 3: cities and their bad policies. And again the we know

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Speaker 3: more than you do philosophy. Think about it in your

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Speaker 3: own local district. And that brings us to the overarching

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Speaker 3: thing that we talk about here a lot. How do

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Speaker 3: you make a difference. I don't know how do you,

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Speaker 3: because each one of us is different, But how about

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Speaker 3: paying attention at the local level. How about paying attention

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Speaker 3: at city council, school board, et cetera. Can I have

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Speaker 3: the biggest impact right there? It's great that we talk

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Speaker 3: about these global issues, but each one of us can

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Speaker 3: do something, and I'll talk more about that after we

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Speaker 3: take this break. Nine oh one two six oh five,

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Speaker 3: nine two six. That's nine oh one two, six oh five,

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Speaker 3: nine two six. That's how you can join the Coast

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Speaker 3: to Coast Conversation from the Liberty University Studio. Jeff stein

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Speaker 3: In for Todd. This is the Todd Starn Show. Welcome

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Speaker 3: back to the Liberty University Studio and an open line

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Speaker 3: Friday edition of The Todd Starn Show. Nine oh one two,

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Speaker 3: six oh five, nine two six. Join the Coast to

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Speaker 3: Coast Conversation if you like. In the next hour, we're

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Speaker 3: going to talk about health care costs and we're going

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Speaker 3: to tie it in with the President's proposed healthcare reform

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Speaker 3: bill that was announced yesterday. And you've heard me, if

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Speaker 3: you've listened to the program when Todd has been kind

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Speaker 3: enough to invite me to join, you've heard me before

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Speaker 3: whine about the fact that we've heard for a decade

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Speaker 3: now more than that that Republicans were going to repeal

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Speaker 3: and replace Obamacare. We've got our own ideas, we're going

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Speaker 3: to fix everything, and we got nothing and so if

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Speaker 3: this helps guide the conversation towards some sort of meaningful resolution, fantastic.

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Speaker 3: We'll find out and we'll talk with a guest on

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Speaker 3: that topic that is coming up at the bottom of

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Speaker 3: the next hour. So, speaking of healthcare, I try to

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Speaker 3: avoid doctors, and I have been very blessed in my

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Speaker 3: life that I have had very little issues, and I

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Speaker 3: thank God for that every single day. But I do

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Speaker 3: go for an annual physical, just did mine right before Christmas.

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Speaker 3: I don't take care of myself. I don't eat like

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Speaker 3: I should, I don't exercise. I sit here and talk

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Speaker 3: for a living that is not conducive to robust help.

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Speaker 3: And if you're like me, you probably don't look forward

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Speaker 3: to the physical because you don't want to have to

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Speaker 3: answer some of those questions. And you wait and see

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Speaker 3: what the blood test shows. You don't know what they're

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Speaker 3: going to find, etc. Okay, So you could eat right

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Speaker 3: for the week before the doctor's appointment, or you could

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden use the treadmill that you have

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Speaker 3: sitting in a corner that you just pile laundry on

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Speaker 3: because nobody ever uses it. You could do all those

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Speaker 3: things for the week ahead of time won't matter. You

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Speaker 3: should do something though, that does matter before your next checkup.

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Speaker 3: Now I already know mine is like fifty weeks away.

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Speaker 3: Before your next checkup, make the one health change that

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Speaker 3: your doctor will notice in a positive way. And your

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Speaker 3: doctor will notice it or you get your money backs.

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Speaker 3: We're talking here about Field of Greens. Now, doctors today

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Speaker 3: look beyond your calendar age. They look at biological age.

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Speaker 3: This is how healthy your cells and vital organs are.

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Speaker 3: Makes sense, we're all different. Well, Field of Greens was

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Speaker 3: designed with that in mind. Each fruit and vegetable is

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Speaker 3: doctor selected to support your cells, your heart, lungs, kidneys,

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Speaker 3: and a healthy weight overall. In fact, a university study

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Speaker 3: has found that participants who only added Field of Greens

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Speaker 3: saw measurable improvements in key health markers. This is one

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Speaker 3: change that changed everything. How simple as that, and that's

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Speaker 3: why Field of Greens promises your doctor will notice your

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Speaker 3: improved health or your money back. So go into your

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Speaker 3: next physical cold confident. It's one scoop once a day

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Speaker 3: and you're done. I like that approach, and we'll see

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Speaker 3: what it does in fifty weeks when I go back.

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Speaker 3: Make Field of Greens your one smart change this new year.

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Speaker 3: Check out the university study and get twenty percent off.

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Speaker 3: Let me look at that again. Yep, twenty percent off

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Speaker 3: at fieldofgreens dot com. But you have to use promo

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Speaker 3: code Starns. All right, that's Fieldofgreens dot com. Promo code

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Speaker 3: starns for twenty percent off from Field of Greens. You'll

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Speaker 3: feel better. The doctor will notice it. Tell me how

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Speaker 3: that's a bad deal. Well it's not. It's a great deal.

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Speaker 3: Nine oh one two six oh five nine two six

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Speaker 3: to join our conversation on this open line Friday. I

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Speaker 3: noticed something in the news, and this is something that

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Speaker 3: those of us who work in media have been concerned about,

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Speaker 3: and that's AI, Artificial and intelligence. You know, why would

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Speaker 3: they need me to sit behind the microphone when they

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Speaker 3: can just generate it through AI. Why do you have

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Speaker 3: to pay actors and actresses when you can just generate

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Speaker 3: it via AI. So Matthew McConaughey, well known actor, he's

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Speaker 3: one of those who's concerned about AI fakes. I don't

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Speaker 3: think I don't know if this has been talked about

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Speaker 3: on the programmer if you saw this, but he's trademarking

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Speaker 3: himself with the federal government Federal Trademark Office. Over recent months,

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Speaker 3: mister McConaughey has secured eight different trademarks from the US

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Speaker 3: Patent and Trademark Office, covering various video and audio clips

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Speaker 3: of his face and voice, including catchphrases. Remember there was

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Speaker 3: the movie where he said all right, all right, all right,

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Speaker 3: something like that. Well, he's now trademarked that so that

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Speaker 3: he has the weight of federal law to go after

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Speaker 3: people who design apps or whatever protocols that clone his

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Speaker 3: likeness or voice without his approval. You know, it's characters

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Speaker 3: can be trademarked, cartoon characters can be trademarked, etc. You

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Speaker 3: cannot use them without permission. If you want to find

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Speaker 3: out how quickly they'll jump on you, pick your favorite

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Speaker 3: college or university and start selling shirts with that school's

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Speaker 3: mascot on it. Oh, you're going to get a nasty

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Speaker 3: letter because those are all trademarked so that the trademark

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Speaker 3: holder can control the use of the image or likeness.

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Speaker 3: Mister McConaughey's attorneys say they are not aware of any

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Speaker 3: AI deep fakes, but in the absence of other federal

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Speaker 3: law to help protect this intellectual property filing, the trademark

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Speaker 3: gives you the weight of federal law. So actually it's

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Speaker 3: a great test case. Others have done the same thing

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Speaker 3: over the course of time. I cannot imagine anybody wants

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Speaker 3: my voice, and after all the talking I've done, to

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Speaker 3: damn a little sick of hearing it myself. But if

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Speaker 3: you have a strong stomach, stick around. It's our three

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Speaker 3: of The Todd starn Show coming up after this short break.

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Speaker 3: Jeff Stein in for Todd. Thanks for being along on

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Speaker 3: the Todd starn Show, live.

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Speaker 1: From the Liberty University Studio in Memphis, Tennessee. It's America's

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Speaker 1: favorite gun, total Bible clinging, deplorable, American's American Todd Stars.

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Speaker 2: Well, hello Americans, I'm Todd Starns. Happy Friday to you,

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Speaker 2: and welcome to the Todd Starns Show. We are in

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Speaker 2: for a great three hours of conversation today. However, I

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Speaker 2: will not be behind the microphone. I have a few

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Speaker 2: things meetings that I've got to attend to on this Friday,

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Speaker 2: so I've asked my great friend Jeff Stein from radio

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Speaker 2: station KXEL, are great affiliate there in Iowa, to fill

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Speaker 2: in today. He has a wonderful show lined up for you,

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Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen, the great Jeff Stein.

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Speaker 3: It is always a privilege to speak to Stearn's nation

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Speaker 3: and filling for America's anchorman. Thank you, mister Starnes, and

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Speaker 3: a good day to you on this open line Friday

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Speaker 3: from the Liberty University Studio. I am Jeff Stein. Nine

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Speaker 3: oh one two six oh five, nine two six. That's

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Speaker 3: how you can join our coast to coast conversation nine

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Speaker 3: oh one two six oh five, nine two six. We'll

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Speaker 3: be talking about health insurance plans, health insurance costs. That's

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Speaker 3: coming up with a gasked at the bottom of the hour.

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Speaker 3: But now let's go to the phone lines and talk

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Speaker 3: to John from Bowling Green Listens on the app. John,

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Speaker 3: thanks so much for calling the starr and show Jeff

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Speaker 3: Stein filling in. How are you.

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Speaker 6: Or mister Stein into all my brothers and sisters of

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Speaker 6: the Jewish faith Shabat shalom today I'm practicing with too,

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Speaker 6: miss Antics, but I want to talk to you about

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Speaker 6: the upcoming mid terms and our economy. Yes, if the

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Speaker 6: American people vote the controlling of the House to the

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Speaker 6: Democrats and the Senate, we're going to lose all the progress.

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Speaker 6: Let me tell I want to explain something to you.

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Speaker 6: Since this administration came into office, our family alone has

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Speaker 6: been getting more bang for our buck. And if the

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Speaker 6: gas prices get lower, our grocery prices are getting lower.

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Speaker 6: Like I said, from what we had four years ago,

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Speaker 6: we put two hundred dollars, were able to double that. Okay,

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Speaker 6: we've been getting ten twenty percent more for our dollar

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Speaker 6: and got as low as a dollar ninety nine dowllon

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Speaker 6: out here where I live. Okay, depending on where you're at.

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Speaker 6: And all that progress that this president and the administration

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Speaker 6: has made, we're going to lose all that because they're

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Speaker 6: going to try to impeach this president. And to all

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Speaker 6: those Republicans that decide they're going to jump shifts, and

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Speaker 6: I'm going to call them rats because they're just scared

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Speaker 6: of the upcoming midterms. They're the ones at fault that

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Speaker 6: are not you know, the American people are not giving

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Speaker 6: them a chance to explain why and what they're trying

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Speaker 6: to do for the American people. And so you know,

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Speaker 6: the farmers are upset because all the illegals. Look, we

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Speaker 6: have prisons with honor farms. Put the prisoners to work

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Speaker 6: on these farms so they can learn the trade. Seriously,

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Speaker 6: mister Stein, you have these honoreies and they can put

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Speaker 6: them to work and they can learn a trade. But

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Speaker 6: if the American people, and I'm going to be very

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Speaker 6: sincere about this, okay, because my wife and I served

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Speaker 6: this country, we fought in the war. If the American

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Speaker 6: people are ignorant and stupid enough to get rid of

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Speaker 6: the control of the House to the Republicans, even though

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Speaker 6: they're stupid for extending Obamacare, we're going to lose everything

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Speaker 6: we've worked for, Okay, And to me, this midterm is critical,

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Speaker 6: very critical, because we need to let them continue to

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Speaker 6: do the job that they were voted to do for.

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Speaker 6: And those Republicans that are jumping ship, how dare you?

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Speaker 6: You're abandoning the American people when they need you the most.

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Speaker 6: If this were in a war, you'd be shot in

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Speaker 6: front of a firing squad for abandoning them. That's all

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Speaker 6: I wanted to say, mister Stein. And again, I'm sorry

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Speaker 6: because it's really upsetting me. Because President Trump is exactly right.

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Speaker 6: We lose the midterms, we lose all the progress.

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Speaker 3: You're absolutely right, and thank you so much for calling

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Speaker 3: in from Bowling Green. I have kin from Monticello, which

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Speaker 3: is south of you there in Kentucky. John made some

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Speaker 3: very good points, but I want to start first of

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Speaker 3: all with tone. He's frustrated, aren't you? And it's okay

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Speaker 3: to be frustrated. I think we need to show a

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Speaker 3: bit of that, because again I have talked about the

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Speaker 3: fact that we have people who claim to be Republicans

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Speaker 3: who are not supporting the president or an agenda. And

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Speaker 3: that is the thing that I'm calling them out about,

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Speaker 3: is the hypocrisy of it. And we began the program.

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Speaker 3: If you were kind enough to be along an hour one,

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Speaker 3: you heard me say, look, this is a job review time.

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Speaker 3: You've got time for us to give you what you want,

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Speaker 3: which is another term. But it starts now, started yesterday,

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Speaker 3: started months ago. But what I'm so tired of it.

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Speaker 3: And John is exactly right, as the president oach, you'll

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Speaker 3: lose the majority, forget it, We've lost everything. They're going

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Speaker 3: to spend their time to try to get rid of him.

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Speaker 3: Good luck. But it's a distraction. It takes us away

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Speaker 3: from the gains that have been made. Think about it

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Speaker 3: this way, how bad were things one year ago? Tuesdays

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Speaker 3: the anniversary of inauguration, Trump presidency will be twenty five

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Speaker 3: trying to undo all of the autopen things. It's the hypocrisy, though,

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Speaker 3: of these Republicans, and I hear it all the time,

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Speaker 3: where they say, elect me, I'll be the best friend

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump ever had. You haven't been so far?

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Speaker 4: Have you?

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Speaker 3: What have you done to actually? Well, you know, I voted,

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Speaker 3: Come on, that's the minimum. I just think some of

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Speaker 3: them are just way too complacent. So if you want

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Speaker 3: to be an independent minded Republican, okay, it's the hypocrisy

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Speaker 3: that just drives me crazy. One of the things that

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Speaker 3: John mentioned was the gas prices. They are lower where

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Speaker 3: I live. They're not as long as some other areas

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Speaker 3: of my state, but they are lower. And here's how

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Speaker 3: that impacts the grocery prices. Sometimes it has to be

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Speaker 3: pointed out, how do groceries get to your store. They

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Speaker 3: don't just magically appear there. They're brought in on trucks.

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Speaker 3: If the overall price of gas is lower, then the

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Speaker 3: cost of bringing goods to the grocery store is lower.

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Speaker 3: And if the costs are lower, they don't have to

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Speaker 3: charge as much and your prices go down. That's why

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Speaker 3: energy independence was such an important focus of the first

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Speaker 3: Trump administration and why it needs to be again, because

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Speaker 3: if you have energy and dependence, if you can keep

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Speaker 3: the cost of fuel down, that not only helps the

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Speaker 3: soccer mom and the mini van and the guy commuting

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Speaker 3: and all of that, but it means that your grocery

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Speaker 3: prices are lower because it does not cost as much

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Speaker 3: to transmit the goods to the store. Another thing that

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Speaker 3: John mentioned was farmers being upset. I'll tell you why

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Speaker 3: farmers are upset because we are years behind the five

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Speaker 3: year farm bill. Now, this should be important to anybody

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Speaker 3: who eats Anybody in this audience who eats food, you

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Speaker 3: should hope that we have a robust farm bill. They

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Speaker 3: set them up every five years so that we have

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Speaker 3: some certainty in the market and so that you can

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Speaker 3: make plans. You don't just show up one day and

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Speaker 3: say I'm going to farm right now. You've got farmers

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Speaker 3: who are trying to figure out their financing for what

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Speaker 3: they'll plant going forward. We have in this year, we

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Speaker 3: have a problem with beef in this country because there's

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Speaker 3: been too much conspiracy with the packing houses and a

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Speaker 3: lot of folks have not enhanced their herds. And if

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Speaker 3: you say to somebody, hey, we're going to change the

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Speaker 3: market forces now you can go back to raising and

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Speaker 3: selling beef. That doesn't happen overnight. It takes a while

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Speaker 3: to get the herd up to numbers. And the problem

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Speaker 3: is we are now more than two years behind the

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Speaker 3: five year farm bill. All the reference prices are at

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Speaker 3: least five years, if not to seven or eight years old.

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Speaker 3: And yes, most of a farm bill is tied to

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Speaker 3: snap benefits. Something like eighty five percent of money in

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Speaker 3: the farm bill has nothing to do with farmers, has

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Speaker 3: to do with food distribution. And so when they reopened

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Speaker 3: the government last month, they made sure that the Department

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Speaker 3: of Agriculture was fully funded through the end of the

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Speaker 3: fiscal year September thirty, twenty twenty six. They also made

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Speaker 3: sure that the snap benefits were there. All of that

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Speaker 3: was helpful to keep farm programs going. The problem is

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Speaker 3: they lost a bit of leverage in getting a five

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Speaker 3: year farm bill across the finish line. Honest to goodness, folks,

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Speaker 3: they should be talking now about how to put together

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Speaker 3: things for the next farm bill. They're so far behind

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Speaker 3: they're almost meeting themselves on the other side. So, if

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Speaker 3: if you care about having control of our own destiny

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Speaker 3: through the growth of food and through energy, need to

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Speaker 3: be paying closer attention to what the president's policies are

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Speaker 3: and what Congress is not doing. If you've noticed a

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Speaker 3: theme that I'm not thrilled with Congress, you're paying attention

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Speaker 3: because I'm not. I just don't understand why it is

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Speaker 3: so difficult. The answer is it's not It shouldn't be.

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Speaker 3: It just needs leadership, and I'm not feeling it right now.

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Speaker 3: John from Bowling Green, thanks for starting the hour off.

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Speaker 3: Your right cannot lose the majority. Your right need to

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Speaker 3: it needs to be done, and it starts with every

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Speaker 3: person listening to this program. Nine oh one, two six

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Speaker 3: oh five, nine two six your calls welcome in the

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Speaker 3: next segment. Let's take a short break. Now take your

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Speaker 3: calls on the other side. Jeff Stein filling in for

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Speaker 3: Todd on the Todd Starn Show. Welcome back to the

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Speaker 3: Liberty University Studio and the Todd Starn Show. Jeff Stein

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Speaker 3: filling in for Todd on this open line Friday nine

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Speaker 3: We've been talking about some economic issues this hour. How

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Speaker 3: free month of service. You've heard of Scott Rasmussen, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: Mister Rasmussen and his father were the founders of ESPN

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Speaker 3: now through Rasmussen Media Group of search for the Neapolitan Institute,

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Speaker 3: fifty three percent of voters in America, fifty three percent

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Speaker 3: consider Israel and an ally of the United States. A

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Speaker 3: this country. And as you might expect, it breaks down

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Speaker 3: along party lines. Sixty six percent of Republicans say Israel

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Speaker 3: is an ally of the US. Only forty three percent

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Speaker 3: of Democrats say. So, let's think about that for a moment.

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Speaker 3: What party took the Jewish vote for granted for decades?

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Speaker 3: If you were to just go and paint with a broadbrush,

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Speaker 3: which you should never have done, but you certainly can't

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Speaker 3: these days. But if you were to have done and so,

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Speaker 3: and you'd say, okay, how do Jewish people vote? Well, Democrat? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they vote Democrat. What president has done more for the

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Speaker 3: people of Israel? Just throw that out there. But then

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Speaker 3: you get the numbers. A majority two thirds of Republicans

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Speaker 3: say Israel is one of our allies. Not even a

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Speaker 3: majority of Democrats think that. That's just that's just stunning

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Speaker 3: to me. Twenty six percent of Democrats say Israel is

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Speaker 3: an enemy of this country? Are you kidding me? So

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Speaker 3: I'll say this again. Sixty six percent of Republicans say

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Speaker 3: say that. Twenty six percent of Democrats say Israel is

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Speaker 3: our enemy. It is so important to break through these

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Speaker 3: preconceived notions and to do it with facts. So again,

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Speaker 3: as we're coming toward this very important midterm election, it's

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Speaker 3: turns out for the people of Israel, for Jews across

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Speaker 3: this country. I've railed so many times about support for

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Speaker 3: Hamas on college campuses in this country. It's abhorrent, it

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Speaker 3: is absolutely unconscionable, and it's so hard for us to believe. Well,

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Speaker 3: there are numbers that would tend to suggest where some

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Speaker 3: of this comes from. I saw another Oh, something came

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Speaker 3: through my email and I want to share it. Okay,

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Speaker 3: here we go. There was a recent study and this

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Speaker 3: makes the same point Yale University faculty. All right, the yalees.

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Speaker 3: Yale University faculty now sends ninety eight percent of its

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Speaker 3: political donations to Democrats. As a faculty, ninety eight percent

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Speaker 3: of Yale faculty members send money to Democrats, zero give

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Speaker 3: to Republicans. Literally, not a single faculty member at Yale

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Speaker 3: further to the left. At Yale. That's the colleges, that's

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about healthcare costs on the other side of

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Speaker 3: this break. Jeff Stein in for Todd. This is the

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Speaker 3: Todd Starn Show. Welcome back to the Liberty University Studio

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Speaker 3: and an open line Friday edition of The Todd Starn Show.

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Speaker 3: Jeff Stein filling in for Todd Today. We'll take your

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Speaker 3: calls in the next segment at nine oh one two

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Speaker 3: six oh five, nine two six. But now let's go

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Speaker 3: to the Patriot Mobile newsmaker line and welcome Gerard Simica.

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Speaker 3: Mister Simica is chairman and general counsel with Consumer Action

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Speaker 3: for a Strong Economy. They go by the acronym CASE

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Speaker 3: and you learn more online CASEFO consumers dot org. Mister Simmica,

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Speaker 3: thanks so much for taking the time. Jeff Stein filling

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Speaker 3: in for Todd. How are you.

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Speaker 9: I'm doing great, Jeff, Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 3: I've not had the privilege of speaking to you on

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Speaker 9: We focused on the free market aspects of economy that

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Speaker 9: They're uneducated, they don't know what they're doing, they needed

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Speaker 9: the government to protect them. We come from the other side,

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01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:23,599
Speaker 9: where we think that competition, free market and you know, investment, innovation,

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01:37:24,160 --> 01:37:27,439
Speaker 9: low taxes, smaller governments are what benefit consumers the most

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01:37:27,439 --> 01:37:30,839
Speaker 9: of what benefits you know, businesses, employers, and the entire economy.

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Speaker 3: Next week, Congress, and in this case, it's the House,

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Speaker 3: because as I understand that, the Senate is not even

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01:37:38,400 --> 01:37:41,479
Speaker 3: in session at all next week, but the House is

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01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:45,160
Speaker 3: going to have some hearings on lowering health care costs.

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Speaker 3: What's the context of that, And given that nobody in

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01:37:51,120 --> 01:37:54,280
Speaker 3: Congress has figured this out yet, I'm just wondering what

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Speaker 3: your level of optimism is about how productive these hearings

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Speaker 3: will be.

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Speaker 9: I thought we saw this with the Affordable Care Act

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Speaker 9: Affordable for who. Well, health care costs continue rising more

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Speaker 9: and more, and healthcare is a you know, very strange

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01:38:09,640 --> 01:38:12,280
Speaker 9: industry in the sense that consumers really have no control

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01:38:12,320 --> 01:38:15,160
Speaker 9: over what they're paying. You know, imagine how much more

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01:38:15,200 --> 01:38:16,840
Speaker 9: dinner would be if you ate it, and then the

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01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:18,880
Speaker 9: waiter brought you the bill to tell you how much

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01:38:18,920 --> 01:38:21,799
Speaker 9: everything costs. So today, when people go into a facility

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01:38:21,880 --> 01:38:24,639
Speaker 9: or hospital, you don't have a procedure donor to be checked.

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01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:26,840
Speaker 9: You know, they have no earthly idea of what's going

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01:38:26,920 --> 01:38:30,360
Speaker 9: to cost them. And so when you have that kind

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01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:35,639
Speaker 9: of you know, opaqueness, transparency is really the big driver

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01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:39,599
Speaker 9: behind the lack of affordability because especially with hospitals, who

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01:38:39,680 --> 01:38:42,240
Speaker 9: are make up one third of all health care spending

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01:38:42,640 --> 01:38:45,719
Speaker 9: in the country, their prices are going up three times

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01:38:45,720 --> 01:38:49,760
Speaker 9: faster than inflation. They're consolidating their abusing their non non

1514
01:38:50,280 --> 01:38:53,640
Speaker 9: you know, a nonprofit status. So if we want to

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01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:57,120
Speaker 9: start with addressing health care costs, that is you know,

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01:38:57,160 --> 01:38:59,559
Speaker 9: you look to where the problem is the biggest, and

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01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:01,599
Speaker 9: that's where we need to start, is just looking at

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01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:04,680
Speaker 9: you know, hospital billing, surprise billings, and it's total lack

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01:39:04,680 --> 01:39:07,120
Speaker 9: of transparency that is rampant through the industry.

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Speaker 3: This thing as we now know, and you mentioned the

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01:39:13,840 --> 01:39:18,160
Speaker 3: quote Affordable Care Act, even those who were proponents of

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01:39:18,200 --> 01:39:20,880
Speaker 3: that back in the day, what almost eleven years ago,

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01:39:21,560 --> 01:39:25,160
Speaker 3: they conceded after the fact that it would never work

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01:39:25,240 --> 01:39:28,120
Speaker 3: unless you took the next step and had full government

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01:39:28,160 --> 01:39:30,439
Speaker 3: control of healthcare. Okay, So if we don't want to

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01:39:30,439 --> 01:39:33,360
Speaker 3: go to that degree, and gosh, I hope we don't,

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01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:36,400
Speaker 3: how do we how do we write this? How do

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01:39:36,479 --> 01:39:39,400
Speaker 3: we how do we roll this back in a meaningful way?

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01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:43,479
Speaker 9: Yeah, a little bit of our bad for you, but

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01:39:43,680 --> 01:39:45,920
Speaker 9: you know, a full dose is good for you.

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01:39:47,200 --> 01:39:48,040
Speaker 4: No sense.

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01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:52,320
Speaker 9: That of course is their goal all along, But we

1533
01:39:52,479 --> 01:39:55,360
Speaker 9: roll it back through. I think what the president is

1534
01:39:55,400 --> 01:39:57,920
Speaker 9: not really healthcare plans defar. It's more of an outline

1535
01:39:58,120 --> 01:39:59,600
Speaker 9: and it has some really good things in it, and

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01:39:59,640 --> 01:40:04,680
Speaker 9: it's with you know, making healthcare more like other consumer

1537
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:10,080
Speaker 9: products and consumer services, which is you know, transparency, more competitions, uh,

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01:40:10,400 --> 01:40:14,840
Speaker 9: you know, more consumers direct to consumer pharmaceuticals, cutting out

1539
01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:18,240
Speaker 9: the middlemen, the PBMs, who you know clawback rebates and

1540
01:40:19,120 --> 01:40:21,680
Speaker 9: you know, are the price setters. Nobody really knows when

1541
01:40:21,720 --> 01:40:27,120
Speaker 9: the pharmaceutical makers sell their have their formularies with the PBMs,

1542
01:40:27,520 --> 01:40:30,240
Speaker 9: they don't know what they'll be charging on the other end,

1543
01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:33,240
Speaker 9: and the pharmacies and the people that and the insured

1544
01:40:34,200 --> 01:40:36,360
Speaker 9: when the insurance companies that have gobbled up all the

1545
01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:39,400
Speaker 9: PBMs so all the major insurance companies have their own PBMs,

1546
01:40:39,479 --> 01:40:42,160
Speaker 9: which which are the benefit managers. They don't know what

1547
01:40:42,520 --> 01:40:46,280
Speaker 9: the PBMs paid to the to the pharmaceutical makers, so

1548
01:40:46,439 --> 01:40:49,000
Speaker 9: they're the only ones that have all the information. And

1549
01:40:49,080 --> 01:40:53,360
Speaker 9: there are some rules from Trump's first administration on transparency,

1550
01:40:53,560 --> 01:40:57,320
Speaker 9: they're largely being ignored. So cutting out the middlemen, you know,

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01:40:57,400 --> 01:41:00,400
Speaker 9: the consolidation with the hospitals, They basically have theopose in

1552
01:41:00,439 --> 01:41:03,879
Speaker 9: many areas, which of course gives you tremendous power to

1553
01:41:03,880 --> 01:41:07,840
Speaker 9: set the price on everything, just like any other industry.

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01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:13,559
Speaker 9: It works better when there's more competitions, the less i'd say,

1555
01:41:13,920 --> 01:41:16,680
Speaker 9: you know, governments setting the rules like these certificates of

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01:41:16,760 --> 01:41:21,160
Speaker 9: needs that hospitals get to control their you know, areas

1557
01:41:21,160 --> 01:41:24,800
Speaker 9: and communities. They say, if somebody else wants to create

1558
01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:26,559
Speaker 9: a facility or a clinic in the area, they say

1559
01:41:26,560 --> 01:41:28,840
Speaker 9: how many beds they can have. And these are all

1560
01:41:29,080 --> 01:41:33,120
Speaker 9: just monopoly protection programs. We need to cut out the

1561
01:41:33,240 --> 01:41:38,920
Speaker 9: unnecessary waste in these middlemen and really give consumers, you know,

1562
01:41:39,439 --> 01:41:44,439
Speaker 9: clear view of what things costs and options. Portability, for example,

1563
01:41:44,720 --> 01:41:48,760
Speaker 9: would be a great idea for insurance that would cut

1564
01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:51,840
Speaker 9: out the certificates of need, and states would compete for

1565
01:41:51,960 --> 01:41:55,960
Speaker 9: having the most favorable stay insurance laws for consumers. That's

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01:41:56,000 --> 01:41:59,280
Speaker 9: where consumers would gravitate. And then other states would you know,

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01:41:59,479 --> 01:42:01,559
Speaker 9: a companies would have to follow a suit in order

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01:42:01,600 --> 01:42:03,880
Speaker 9: to compete. You know, you want government to compete. It's

1569
01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:06,439
Speaker 9: like you want the free market to compete. But again,

1570
01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:08,920
Speaker 9: you know, started with the hospitals, it would be would

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01:42:08,960 --> 01:42:13,880
Speaker 9: be a major leap forward in addressing these affordability problems

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01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:17,479
Speaker 9: just because of total total opaqueness.

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Speaker 5: Of the prices.

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01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:22,360
Speaker 3: And again, pharmacy benefit managers PBMs, that's that middleman that's

1575
01:42:22,400 --> 01:42:25,240
Speaker 3: gotten in the way, et cetera, et cetera. You know,

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01:42:25,320 --> 01:42:30,280
Speaker 3: when when I've been very blessed to have great health,

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01:42:30,439 --> 01:42:32,840
Speaker 3: and I thank God for that, but about a year ago,

1578
01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:36,280
Speaker 3: they thought they saw something so I had to do tests. Okay,

1579
01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:40,439
Speaker 3: everything's fine, But that's when I was introduced to the

1580
01:42:40,479 --> 01:42:43,960
Speaker 3: concept of well, if you have this test done in

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01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:47,200
Speaker 3: your doctor's office, it's covered, but if it's at the hospital,

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01:42:47,240 --> 01:42:49,519
Speaker 3: it's not. But nobody will tell you that till after

1583
01:42:49,560 --> 01:42:52,439
Speaker 3: the fact, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. I mean,

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01:42:52,520 --> 01:42:57,120
Speaker 3: it is maddening to try to keep track of these things.

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01:42:57,600 --> 01:43:00,880
Speaker 3: And because these hospitals, for first of all, they at

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01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:04,560
Speaker 3: least where I'm at, they bought up the doctor's practices,

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01:43:04,680 --> 01:43:07,760
Speaker 3: bring them in under the auspices of the hospital. And

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01:43:07,840 --> 01:43:10,760
Speaker 3: then when you get a referral, it's obviously to one

1589
01:43:10,760 --> 01:43:14,320
Speaker 3: of their doctors. And yes, you have the free choice

1590
01:43:14,360 --> 01:43:17,400
Speaker 3: to go somewhere else, but you've got to be well

1591
01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:21,719
Speaker 3: enough informed. And when your doctor, your general practitioner you trust,

1592
01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:24,280
Speaker 3: says go to this specialist, you tend to do it,

1593
01:43:24,680 --> 01:43:28,000
Speaker 3: et cetera. I mean, we've got a lot of problems here,

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01:43:28,920 --> 01:43:33,080
Speaker 3: and none of it is addressing proper care for individuals

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01:43:33,200 --> 01:43:35,639
Speaker 3: or enhanced care for individuals.

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Speaker 9: Absolutely, and it goes to the Obamacare maytas too. It's

1597
01:43:39,320 --> 01:43:42,120
Speaker 9: like no fault insurance where a lot of people are

1598
01:43:42,120 --> 01:43:44,960
Speaker 9: paying four things on their insurance. I mean, I think

1599
01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:48,240
Speaker 9: I'm paying forul prenatal care, which I'm I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 9: I'm not gonna need.

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01:43:49,360 --> 01:43:52,360
Speaker 5: But or you know, if you're.

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01:43:52,360 --> 01:43:55,720
Speaker 9: Elderly and you're paying for a juvenile dentistry and all

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01:43:55,760 --> 01:43:58,479
Speaker 9: these things. And to get rid of those mandates which

1604
01:43:58,479 --> 01:44:00,000
Speaker 9: are just killing everybody.

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01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:01,760
Speaker 5: But like you said, there was.

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Speaker 9: A rule years ago. The idea was that hospitals provided

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01:44:04,760 --> 01:44:07,200
Speaker 9: better care than clinics, and that may have made sense,

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01:44:07,280 --> 01:44:10,200
Speaker 9: you know, maybe in the seventies where you're covering somebody

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01:44:10,200 --> 01:44:11,640
Speaker 9: and you want to make sure they're not going to

1610
01:44:11,720 --> 01:44:15,920
Speaker 9: some you know, a Carnival Barker somewhere that is offering

1611
01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:18,800
Speaker 9: to do a procedure on you. But today that's not

1612
01:44:18,880 --> 01:44:22,439
Speaker 9: the case. I mean, outpatient clinics and many facilities provide

1613
01:44:23,000 --> 01:44:24,920
Speaker 9: just as good, if not better care than your local

1614
01:44:24,960 --> 01:44:28,200
Speaker 9: hospital can. So, but this rule that you're facing where

1615
01:44:28,280 --> 01:44:33,360
Speaker 9: it will cost more or it'll be covered or not covered. Again,

1616
01:44:33,439 --> 01:44:37,680
Speaker 9: those are the kind of stupid regulations that are in

1617
01:44:37,760 --> 01:44:40,519
Speaker 9: place and have just you know, like dianve olders have

1618
01:44:40,640 --> 01:44:44,080
Speaker 9: not been able to be budged, and you know they

1619
01:44:44,080 --> 01:44:47,360
Speaker 9: need to be dynamited. You're exactly right if it doesn't

1620
01:44:47,400 --> 01:44:52,800
Speaker 9: make If it doesn't, there's no distinction. And really, you know,

1621
01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:56,559
Speaker 9: the actual care you're getting, it shouldn't matter where it happens,

1622
01:44:56,560 --> 01:44:57,639
Speaker 9: as long as you get the care.

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01:44:59,160 --> 01:45:02,320
Speaker 3: So the president yesterday came up with a plan since

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01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:06,679
Speaker 3: Congress apparently is not able to uh, obviously you've taken

1625
01:45:06,720 --> 01:45:08,320
Speaker 3: a look at that. Give us a sense is that

1626
01:45:08,439 --> 01:45:11,520
Speaker 3: on the right track. What's your what's your instant analysis

1627
01:45:11,520 --> 01:45:13,599
Speaker 3: of the President's healthcare reform plan.

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01:45:14,640 --> 01:45:17,120
Speaker 9: Yeah, and again I would call it more of an

1629
01:45:17,160 --> 01:45:20,599
Speaker 9: outline at this point because the specifics are really what

1630
01:45:20,640 --> 01:45:22,800
Speaker 9: they're going to have to be filled in. But as

1631
01:45:22,800 --> 01:45:25,479
Speaker 9: far as the general outline, you know, we think it's

1632
01:45:25,520 --> 01:45:31,840
Speaker 9: great because it does address competition, it does address transparency,

1633
01:45:32,400 --> 01:45:34,479
Speaker 9: and you know, those are the kind of things that

1634
01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:39,200
Speaker 9: you you know, you need where if you know, again,

1635
01:45:39,240 --> 01:45:44,960
Speaker 9: if we have direct to consumer services and pharmaceuticals, that's

1636
01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:46,519
Speaker 9: going to kill a lot of what, you know, the

1637
01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:50,040
Speaker 9: subsidies you know in Obamacare, which we which we keep

1638
01:45:50,040 --> 01:45:54,880
Speaker 9: fighting over. I mean, when there's another deadline, budget deadline

1639
01:45:54,920 --> 01:45:58,400
Speaker 9: coming in the thirty if we saw the shutdown a

1640
01:45:58,439 --> 01:46:01,240
Speaker 9: few months ago that was over subsidies that were of

1641
01:46:01,240 --> 01:46:04,320
Speaker 9: course only supposed to last through through COVID, and so

1642
01:46:05,120 --> 01:46:07,760
Speaker 9: the Democrats did not keep their word and insisted on

1643
01:46:08,040 --> 01:46:10,240
Speaker 9: that they be included and shut down the government over it.

1644
01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:13,320
Speaker 9: The only area that we'd really like to see the

1645
01:46:13,360 --> 01:46:18,679
Speaker 9: president address is pharmaceutical pricing. We're not fans of Most

1646
01:46:18,680 --> 01:46:20,960
Speaker 9: Favored Nation, which are which are price caps where he

1647
01:46:20,960 --> 01:46:24,600
Speaker 9: would set prices based upon what other nations with socialists

1648
01:46:25,360 --> 01:46:29,679
Speaker 9: you know, socialized medicine, what what they pay for the drugs.

1649
01:46:30,280 --> 01:46:33,240
Speaker 9: Two problems with that is, first of all, the drugs

1650
01:46:33,439 --> 01:46:37,280
Speaker 9: plans you have in other countries, whether it's Canada, Japan,

1651
01:46:37,439 --> 01:46:41,400
Speaker 9: or Europe, they have access to far fewer drugs than

1652
01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:45,479
Speaker 9: American pasties do. And we know, uh, people aren't like cars,

1653
01:46:45,520 --> 01:46:48,320
Speaker 9: where a carburetor you know, will go and whatever model

1654
01:46:48,360 --> 01:46:51,439
Speaker 9: it's made for. People are different. They respond to different

1655
01:46:51,439 --> 01:46:55,320
Speaker 9: treatments and different types of medications and different dosages and everything.

1656
01:46:55,400 --> 01:46:58,680
Speaker 9: So we want to make sure that patients here have

1657
01:46:58,760 --> 01:47:02,479
Speaker 9: access to the white the range of drugs that might

1658
01:47:03,560 --> 01:47:06,400
Speaker 9: be useful to them. But secondly, what he did with

1659
01:47:06,720 --> 01:47:09,599
Speaker 9: you know, NATO, he made them pay their fair share

1660
01:47:10,160 --> 01:47:12,479
Speaker 9: and he made them step up to you He said

1661
01:47:12,479 --> 01:47:15,240
Speaker 9: they weren't contributing and now to contributing up to five

1662
01:47:15,280 --> 01:47:18,479
Speaker 9: percent for their own defense. Well, you know, these countries

1663
01:47:18,479 --> 01:47:21,800
Speaker 9: are freeloading off of Americans because American companies do a

1664
01:47:21,840 --> 01:47:25,400
Speaker 9: tremendous amount of the innovation and research and development. It

1665
01:47:25,439 --> 01:47:28,160
Speaker 9: takes billions of dollars to bring a drug to market,

1666
01:47:28,520 --> 01:47:31,559
Speaker 9: you know, over eight years and over clinical testing and

1667
01:47:31,600 --> 01:47:34,200
Speaker 9: all this. It's not an easy thing to actually get

1668
01:47:34,200 --> 01:47:36,759
Speaker 9: a drug to market, and that takes billions of dollars

1669
01:47:37,200 --> 01:47:39,920
Speaker 9: in research, and so if we want to keep you know,

1670
01:47:40,080 --> 01:47:42,120
Speaker 9: we're on the edge of you know, a lot of

1671
01:47:42,160 --> 01:47:46,720
Speaker 9: break through technologies that might really start, you know, addressing

1672
01:47:47,120 --> 01:47:50,240
Speaker 9: some of our most pernicious healthcare problems, like you know,

1673
01:47:50,320 --> 01:47:54,360
Speaker 9: Parkinson's and Alzheimer's and cancers and heart disease. You know,

1674
01:47:54,479 --> 01:47:56,200
Speaker 9: we're very close on a lot of those things. We're

1675
01:47:56,200 --> 01:47:59,200
Speaker 9: making tremendous strikes. If you go with most favorite nation

1676
01:47:59,479 --> 01:48:03,160
Speaker 9: and price caps, that's going to cut into the amount

1677
01:48:03,240 --> 01:48:07,200
Speaker 9: of money that you know, our research and development can

1678
01:48:07,240 --> 01:48:10,000
Speaker 9: produce for We don't want the best healthcare system of

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01:48:10,080 --> 01:48:12,479
Speaker 9: nineteen seventy seven. In other words, you know it's an

1680
01:48:12,479 --> 01:48:15,439
Speaker 9: expensive but you know when you know you might not

1681
01:48:15,479 --> 01:48:21,160
Speaker 9: make it here. You know, we're seeing longer longevity as well.

1682
01:48:21,320 --> 01:48:25,120
Speaker 9: So even so Americans do have a lot of issues,

1683
01:48:25,160 --> 01:48:29,719
Speaker 9: and there's problems with nutrition and heart disease, and even

1684
01:48:30,320 --> 01:48:33,760
Speaker 9: overweight people are living longer, intend to have a better

1685
01:48:33,800 --> 01:48:36,400
Speaker 9: quality of life, you know, stay into their sixties and seventies.

1686
01:48:36,680 --> 01:48:41,000
Speaker 9: But make those other countries pay up, don't soak us.

1687
01:48:41,040 --> 01:48:44,280
Speaker 9: And so we'd like to see them, you know, maybe

1688
01:48:44,479 --> 01:48:46,960
Speaker 9: pivot on that, but otherwise we think it's a great

1689
01:48:46,960 --> 01:48:50,000
Speaker 9: plan that empower consumers and brings greater competition where it's needed.

1690
01:48:50,960 --> 01:48:54,760
Speaker 3: Case for Consumers dot Org. Case for Consumers dot Org

1691
01:48:54,840 --> 01:48:58,200
Speaker 3: all the good information on this and so many other topics.

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Speaker 3: Mister Semica, thanks so much for taking the time. Have

1693
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Speaker 3: a good weekend, sir, you see you too.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Jeff Gerard Simca is Chairman and General counsel of CASE

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01:49:07,520 --> 01:49:10,000
Speaker 3: Consumer Action for a Strong Economy. He joined us on

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01:49:10,040 --> 01:49:13,799
Speaker 3: the Patriot Mobile newsmaker line. We'll continue from the Liberty

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01:49:13,880 --> 01:49:16,559
Speaker 3: University Studio in just a moment short break. Now more

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01:49:16,600 --> 01:49:24,680
Speaker 3: on the other side on the Todd starn Show, and

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01:49:24,760 --> 01:49:28,200
Speaker 3: we welcome you back to the Liberty University Studio and

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01:49:28,320 --> 01:49:30,960
Speaker 3: the final segment of this open line Friday edition of

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01:49:31,000 --> 01:49:34,360
Speaker 3: The Todd Starn Show. Jeff Stein filling in for Todd today.

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01:49:34,439 --> 01:49:39,080
Speaker 3: He'll be back on Monday. Thanks to team Todd in Memphis,

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01:49:39,120 --> 01:49:42,240
Speaker 3: Helen and Dylan taking care of everything, and mister Starns

1705
01:49:42,280 --> 01:49:45,000
Speaker 3: for giving me the keys to the Cadillac once again.

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01:49:45,360 --> 01:49:47,160
Speaker 3: Hopefully we've kept it out of the ditch for you.

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01:49:47,920 --> 01:49:50,080
Speaker 3: Let's close with something we've been talking about a lot

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01:49:50,120 --> 01:49:52,559
Speaker 3: of serious stuff, and the world is a serious place,

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01:49:52,560 --> 01:49:54,519
Speaker 3: and we have all sorts of things that we need

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01:49:54,560 --> 01:49:58,799
Speaker 3: to be concerned about. All very much true, but sometimes

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01:49:58,840 --> 01:50:01,200
Speaker 3: we need to have a little, a little levity, a

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01:50:01,240 --> 01:50:04,560
Speaker 3: little fun. So I was going I was at the

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01:50:04,600 --> 01:50:06,519
Speaker 3: store the other day. It was one of these big

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01:50:06,600 --> 01:50:10,479
Speaker 3: chain stores. It was the one that was founded in Bentonville, Arkansas.

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01:50:10,520 --> 01:50:14,000
Speaker 3: If that helps, you put a put a marker on it.

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01:50:14,880 --> 01:50:17,599
Speaker 3: And they've got this. This is kind of odds. Here

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01:50:17,640 --> 01:50:20,760
Speaker 3: we are in mid January. Here's one aisle of discounted

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01:50:20,840 --> 01:50:24,000
Speaker 3: Christmas items that they haven't gotten rid of. Then you've

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01:50:24,040 --> 01:50:29,760
Speaker 3: got your Valentine's Day items and already Easter. And in

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01:50:29,880 --> 01:50:34,840
Speaker 3: keeping with that, peeps. You know what peeps are right?

1721
01:50:34,880 --> 01:50:38,320
Speaker 3: These are these little marshmallow treats. Now, I we did

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01:50:38,360 --> 01:50:40,800
Speaker 3: not have these in my house growing up, but I

1723
01:50:40,840 --> 01:50:44,360
Speaker 3: know for some people it was like, oh my gosh, peeps,

1724
01:50:44,479 --> 01:50:47,599
Speaker 3: that's the big thing about Easter. The big thing about

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01:50:47,640 --> 01:50:51,160
Speaker 3: Easter should be resurrection. But the point for those who

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01:50:51,320 --> 01:50:54,040
Speaker 3: treat it as a you know, Easter bunny type thing.

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01:50:55,400 --> 01:50:58,759
Speaker 3: You got peeps, these little things that look like chicks,

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01:50:58,760 --> 01:51:00,680
Speaker 3: and then they make them that look like bunnies. And

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01:51:01,680 --> 01:51:03,920
Speaker 3: I'm not a big fan. You know, I'll take my

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01:51:04,000 --> 01:51:07,240
Speaker 3: sugar straight. But in any event, the folks who make

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01:51:07,320 --> 01:51:10,880
Speaker 3: Peeps know that Easter is the big time for them,

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01:51:11,840 --> 01:51:17,120
Speaker 3: and they announce some new flavors for this Easter. Now,

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Speaker 3: i gotta tell you, you know, I haven't had luncheck

1734
01:51:20,880 --> 01:51:23,000
Speaker 3: because I've done the show. I'm not sure after reading

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01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:27,720
Speaker 3: this to you that I'm going to have an appetite.

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01:51:27,760 --> 01:51:32,400
Speaker 3: Peeps announced this week that it will be selling You

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01:51:32,400 --> 01:51:38,040
Speaker 3: can get them now someplaces pop tart frosted strawberry flavored

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01:51:38,160 --> 01:51:44,200
Speaker 3: marshmallow chicks. In other words, the Peeps chicks taste like

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01:51:44,320 --> 01:51:50,240
Speaker 3: a strawberry pop tart. Then they also have sunny de

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01:51:50,439 --> 01:51:55,479
Speaker 3: flavored marshmallow chicks. That's the beverage, right, like orange juice,

1741
01:51:55,520 --> 01:52:01,000
Speaker 3: that kind of thing. Now, can you say marketing partnership? Here?

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01:52:01,439 --> 01:52:05,400
Speaker 3: They're not just strawberry flavored checks. They're pop tart strawberry

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01:52:05,400 --> 01:52:09,519
Speaker 3: flavored chicks. They also have Now, this is the one

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01:52:09,360 --> 01:52:13,120
Speaker 3: that I don't think I can have lunch after. They

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01:52:13,160 --> 01:52:21,360
Speaker 3: have chili lime mango flavored marshmallow chicks. The whole point

1746
01:52:21,360 --> 01:52:23,519
Speaker 3: of Peeps is that they just have no taste, right,

1747
01:52:24,560 --> 01:52:27,400
Speaker 3: It's just sugar and it's sticky, and I mean, that's

1748
01:52:27,439 --> 01:52:31,000
Speaker 3: that's the whole point of it, isn't it. Chili lime

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01:52:31,040 --> 01:52:36,919
Speaker 3: mango flavored marshmallow chicks. I went to the Peep's website,

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01:52:36,920 --> 01:52:39,760
Speaker 3: which is peepsbrand dot com because I care about you

1751
01:52:39,840 --> 01:52:43,439
Speaker 3: in the audience and I'm doing research. They have chocolate

1752
01:52:43,479 --> 01:52:50,519
Speaker 3: pudding flavored bunnies and rice Crispy Treat flavored marshmallow chicks.

1753
01:52:51,280 --> 01:52:54,599
Speaker 3: That's just wrong. But here's there's a whole list. I'll

1754
01:52:54,640 --> 01:52:56,719
Speaker 3: hold this piece of paper very close to the microphone

1755
01:52:56,760 --> 01:53:01,439
Speaker 3: so you can see it. They have doctor pepper flavored

1756
01:53:01,479 --> 01:53:08,040
Speaker 3: marshmallow chicks. Now that's sacrilegious. I mean, I know I

1757
01:53:08,160 --> 01:53:11,360
Speaker 3: drink doctor pepper cherry flavored, which I once had a

1758
01:53:11,400 --> 01:53:13,759
Speaker 3: student when I was teaching college. Say no, just stop

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01:53:13,960 --> 01:53:20,759
Speaker 3: stop Doctor pepper flavored marshmallow chicks. Cotton candy flavored, sour

1760
01:53:20,960 --> 01:53:28,560
Speaker 3: watermelon flavored marshmallow chicks. No, no, not so much, s'mores flavored.

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01:53:30,080 --> 01:53:35,600
Speaker 3: And some of these stores have an exclusive. For example,

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01:53:36,040 --> 01:53:40,160
Speaker 3: apparently you can only get sunny d Peeps at Target.

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01:53:41,800 --> 01:53:44,080
Speaker 3: You folks there in the Mid South, pay attention. You

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01:53:44,120 --> 01:53:48,160
Speaker 3: can only get chili lime mango peeps at the Kroger.

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01:53:49,880 --> 01:53:52,040
Speaker 3: Starn's is going to be going to the Kroger tonight.

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01:53:52,080 --> 01:53:55,840
Speaker 3: I can just tell to get his peeps. Sam's Club

1767
01:53:55,880 --> 01:53:58,120
Speaker 3: has a variety ten pack, well, of course it does.

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01:53:58,160 --> 01:54:01,599
Speaker 3: It's a ten pack. And at Sam's Club, where else

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01:54:01,680 --> 01:54:05,519
Speaker 3: I think there was? Oh yeah, tropical punch flavored bunnies.

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01:54:05,960 --> 01:54:10,400
Speaker 3: Only get those at the Dollar Trade. So there you go, kids,

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01:54:10,880 --> 01:54:15,920
Speaker 3: peeps in every flavor for Easter. That's not going to

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01:54:16,000 --> 01:54:18,360
Speaker 3: help you with the you know, you're you're better off

1773
01:54:18,400 --> 01:54:22,879
Speaker 3: with the you know, you're better off with the grains

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01:54:22,920 --> 01:54:26,639
Speaker 3: and the fruits and the other things. It has been

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01:54:26,800 --> 01:54:30,240
Speaker 3: a privilege, as always, thank you so much for being along.

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01:54:30,680 --> 01:54:33,560
Speaker 3: Jeff Stein filling in for Todd on The Todd's Darn Show.