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Speaker 1: All right, Welcome to the Carl Jackson Show. This is

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Speaker 1: so much going on around the world, and I'm going

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Speaker 1: to get to a guest here in just a second,

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Speaker 1: our guest Steven Moser. Guys, I want you to understand,

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Speaker 1: and I truly do believe this. Whether you like President

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Speaker 1: Trump or not actually does, it doesn't really matter to me.

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Speaker 1: I want to make something emphatically clear. The world hates us.

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Speaker 1: The world wants to take us down, or many people

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Speaker 1: in the world, many countries in the world, particularly China,

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Speaker 1: and President Trump when he said America first, I don't

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Speaker 1: think that means. I never thought that meant America sitting

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Speaker 1: a duck. I thought it meant China last. And I

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Speaker 1: think that's exactly what President Trump is doing now. Obviously

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Speaker 1: he want to take he wants to take care of

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Speaker 1: people domestically, and that's fine as well.

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Speaker 2: He's got to do that.

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Speaker 1: I know that's what everybody wants right now. It's the

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Speaker 1: economy stupid, I got it. That's what we really have

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Speaker 1: to hit hard. Heading into on the twenty twenty six elections.

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Speaker 1: But guys, let me tell you something. The Biden administration

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Speaker 1: left this world in a mess, and the world was

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Speaker 1: starting to reshape. Our allies, even the global the global economy,

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Speaker 1: was sinking, all right. And President Trump, just using sheer

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Speaker 1: I love reading I love reading his work what we've

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Speaker 1: seen with President Trump as far as foreign policy is concerned.

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Speaker 1: A Stephen Moser, and welcome to the show. By the way,

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate you, really appreciate you coming on. I

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Speaker 1: know it was a little bit of hard left with

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Speaker 1: the tech stuff, and I get it, Stephen, because I'm

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Speaker 1: the same way. But I'm talking to the president of

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Speaker 1: his stuff when it comes to Asia on foreign policy.

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Speaker 1: Steven Moser, welcome to the program.

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Speaker 3: It's good to be here with you again, Carl.

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Speaker 1: Stephen, Like before I even get to your article, and

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Speaker 1: I encourage every single actually, I will make sure that

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Speaker 1: everybody reads this article. It's entitled with close Allies Iran

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Speaker 1: and face. Now this is very important because we're gonna

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Speaker 1: if you don't mind, Steven, I like to go through

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Speaker 1: this methodically so that people, the listeners can understand. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot of people that might say, you know what,

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Speaker 1: you know, I never thought President Trump would be a

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Speaker 1: neo con Oh, Carl, you're a neo kan And I'm like, guys,

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Speaker 1: you can call me whatever you want. I was never

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Speaker 1: ask you this, just looking at your column, is President Trump,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he is, and in terms of in terms of

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Speaker 3: same page. When it comes to foreign policy, it's America first.

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Speaker 3: It's America leads by force of its example, right because

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Speaker 3: Carl shouldn't think that that President Trump can only do

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Speaker 3: and ultimately this foreign policy of his is really all

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Speaker 3: But remember most of these wars were started by, encouraged by,

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Speaker 1: And so I love the fact that you said that,

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Speaker 1: And the world's biggest loser is clearly China. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: But talk about what Trump going into Venezuela, taking Maduro out,

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Speaker 1: And I love this. There's so much more, Stephen, if

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Speaker 1: you can stick with me, There's so much more in

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Speaker 1: the Carl Jackson Show again. I'm joined by my guest,

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Speaker 1: Steven Moser. He is the president of the Population Research

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Speaker 1: Institute and the author of The Devil and Communist China.

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Speaker 1: Also get his book, The Bully of Asia, a very

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Speaker 1: popular book. I'm sure it still sells well. I'd imagine

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Speaker 1: Stephen it should. But anyway, he's been talking about this

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Speaker 1: stuff forever. You can find him online pop dot org,

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Speaker 1: I know there's a lot of people that say, ah,

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Speaker 2: And just to be clear, that we have Europe buying

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're paying for most of the war in Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let me let me ask you about this. Going

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Speaker 3: Well, and remember, the Chinese Communist Party sold these weapons

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Speaker 1: My guest is Steven W. Moser. He is the president

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Speaker 1: of the Population Research Institute, the author of The Devil

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Speaker 1: thank god they're safe. But what happened with that particular

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Speaker 1: raid is now that set China back. That set China

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Speaker 1: back big time. Do you think China Stephen Moser is

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Speaker 1: rethinking strategies for Taiwan for taking Taiwan at this point.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna be really hard to take Taiwan

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Speaker 1: if you can't get your hands on the amount of

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Speaker 1: oil needed to wage a war.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's also going to be very hard to

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Speaker 3: take Taiwan if your own population is unhappy with your governance.

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Speaker 3: Because the decline of the export sector in China has

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Speaker 3: caused millions of workers in China lose their jobs. They're

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Speaker 3: going back to their towns and villages, but there are

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Speaker 3: no jobs waiting for them. There's no land for them

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Speaker 3: to farm. So there's a huge and growing population of

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Speaker 3: people in China who are unemployed and disaffected from the government.

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Speaker 3: You know, and people need to understand. You mentioned communism

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Speaker 3: early in the show. You know who controls the wealth

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Speaker 3: of China, and it's not the one hundred million members

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Speaker 3: of the Chinese Communist Party per se. You've got to

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Speaker 3: join the party to get ahead, of course, But there

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Speaker 3: are five hundred families in China that date their relationship

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Speaker 3: to the Chinese Communist Party back to the twenties and

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Speaker 3: the thirties. Those are the elite families. Those are the princes,

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Speaker 3: and the princes and the five hundred families control nearly

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Speaker 3: all of the wealth of China. So communism is not

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Speaker 3: a matter of achieving equality. Communism is a matter of

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Speaker 3: creating a fantasy in the minds of people that one

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Speaker 3: day we will all be equal. Meanwhile, you steal everything

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Speaker 3: that isn't tied down for your own use, for your

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Speaker 3: own family. That's how it works out. That's how it

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Speaker 3: worked out in the Soviet Union with the nomen Flanter.

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Speaker 3: That's how it worked out, is working out in China today.

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Speaker 3: It's just the history is a fabrication of communism. The

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Speaker 3: ideology is a fantasy. And it's a shame that people

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Speaker 3: who you know, have nothing and think they're going to

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Speaker 3: benefit from communism wind up having even less because even

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Speaker 3: their freedom is taken away from them.

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Speaker 1: Ran I want to talk about the Middle weeks a run. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: people are being slaughtered there. I saw a message that

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Speaker 1: a friend of a friend of ours wrote on Instagram,

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Speaker 1: so one of her family members was able to get

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Speaker 1: a message to her and literally, this person on the

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Speaker 1: ground in Iran believes that there's been at least fifty

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Speaker 1: thousand people that have been slaughtered. And obviously we don't

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Speaker 1: we don't know the numbers, but according to this person,

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Speaker 1: people are absolutely people are just absolutely terrified, terrified at

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Speaker 1: this point in time. And people that are wounded, that

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Speaker 1: are any that are going to hospital, some of them

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Speaker 1: are any of dead. So some people are scared to

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Speaker 1: even be treated for wounds. And these people are incomplete,

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Speaker 1: they're completely paranoid. And the Iyatola they're losing their grips

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Speaker 1: of power. I hope to God that Iran, that Iran fails.

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Speaker 1: I hope the Ayatola falls. I understand that there's fear

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Speaker 1: interrepidation about well, who will replace the Iyatola and the IRGC,

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, I perhaps somebody less evil, less evil

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Speaker 1: than them. I don't know. I'd be willing to I'd

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Speaker 1: be willing to take that bet. But what do you

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Speaker 1: see happening with Iran? Even frankly, even with Russia, with

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Speaker 1: the price of oil dropping under the Trump administration. These

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Speaker 1: nations are in serious trouble, aren't they? Steven?

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Speaker 3: They are. I mean, you know, one way to think

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Speaker 3: of Russia is as a gas station with nuclear weapons.

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Speaker 3: And if the gas station isn't selling as much gas,

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Speaker 3: or isn't making as much money when it sells that gas,

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Speaker 3: then they're going to fall on hard times and be

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Speaker 3: unable to fund their continuing aggression in Ukraine. So it

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Speaker 3: all comes back to energy at one level. You know,

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Speaker 3: what's happened in Iran breaks my heart. I mean, it's

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Speaker 3: been languishing under this thuggish dictatorship now for half century.

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Speaker 3: The Iranian people deserve better, Obviously, tens of thousands of

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Speaker 3: people have been killed. It kind of reminds me of Tinanman,

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Speaker 3: you know, after the Chinese Communist Party killed ten thousand

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Speaker 3: people in and around the central square of the city

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Speaker 3: of Beijing, the capital city of China. They then went

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Speaker 3: the next day to the hospitals and they took all

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Speaker 3: the wounded out, and the wounded whenever heard from again.

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Speaker 3: So the total det was doubled, a triple the actual

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Speaker 3: number of people killed on the first day, because they

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Speaker 3: killed all the witnesses, you see, And that's what the

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Speaker 3: Ietol and his thugs are trying to do. I think

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Speaker 3: in Iran, they're trying to kill all the witnesses, all

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Speaker 3: the people who were victimized by their brutality but not

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Speaker 3: quite killed. They're ensuring that they don't survive to tell

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Speaker 3: their tale of how they were victimized, terrorized. Whatever shreds

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Speaker 3: of legitimacy the Ietotis regime had before this, it's now gone.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they are well and truly a pariah state now,

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Speaker 3: like North Korea, for example, and no one with any

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Speaker 3: decency is going to want to work with him. Hopefully

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Speaker 3: this will dry up funding to Hamas in Gaza, it

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Speaker 3: will draw up the funding to Isbola in Lebanon and Syria.

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Speaker 3: It will draw up the funding to the militias in Iraq,

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Speaker 3: which are still destabilizing that country and to isis in

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Speaker 3: northern and and a stable Middle East could be the

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Speaker 3: result of it will be the result of the fall

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Speaker 3: of the Ayatola regime, but it may already be beginning

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Speaker 3: because the Ayatola has problems closer to home and can

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Speaker 3: no longer afford to support these terrorist organizations overseas. So

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Speaker 3: we we can. We can pray and hope that the

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Speaker 3: Middle East will become a much more stable place and uh,

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Speaker 3: and China again will lose its chief ally in a region.

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Speaker 3: Having lost Venezuela in South America, it's now going to

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Speaker 3: lose Iran in the Middle East, and soon enough it's

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Speaker 3: going to be China alone, and China alone we can

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Speaker 3: deal with. I love that.

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Speaker 1: And and frankly for for the naysayers out there, Stephen

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Speaker 1: Moser that would say, listen, we we shouldn't be concerned

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Speaker 1: about the Middle East. We we have no business uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, messing around with the with with the Roan,

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Speaker 1: that's that's none of our none of our business. I

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Speaker 1: just think people are so naive. Of course it is.

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Speaker 1: They believe that we're the big Satan. They believe that

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Speaker 1: Israel is the little Satan and frankly, with the Ayatolas

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Speaker 1: out of the way, we don't really have to As

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Speaker 1: you mentioned, I mean, these people are that are their

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Speaker 1: proxies hesblah Hamas, the hutis. With these you know, crazy

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Speaker 1: insane Islamic thugs out of the way, Americans don't have

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Speaker 1: to necessarily worry about going overseas to fight wars in

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Speaker 1: the Middle East. Isn't that what Trump seems to be

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Speaker 1: doing with all of these taking on all these deals.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and we're not going to see any major new

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Speaker 3: Trump troop commitments. I think anywhere in the world. We're

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Speaker 3: going to see surgical stripes. Perhaps, we're going to see

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Speaker 3: the removal of a dictator, as we did with Maduro.

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Speaker 3: We're going to see the use of energy and financial weapons, tariffs, tariffs, tariffs,

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Speaker 3: tariffs to bring down these regimes or at least cripple

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Speaker 3: them to the point where they can no longer stir

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Speaker 3: up trouble in their regions. And all of this is

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Speaker 3: very very good. I mean, look, I'm was traumatized as

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Speaker 3: the next guy by our endless wars in Iraq and

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Speaker 3: in Afghanistan. I had sons being in that theater for

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Speaker 3: years they're they're no longer there because we've we've we've

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Speaker 3: withdrawn from those countries. We don't want to go back.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to go back. But this is not

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Speaker 3: about going back. This is not about being the policeman

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Speaker 3: of the world. This is about making America safe and

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Speaker 3: secure by crippling America's primary enemy in the world, the

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Speaker 3: People's Republic of China, which wants to destroy us.

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Speaker 1: You know, I almost feel like this, Steve, and I

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Speaker 1: feel like if President Trump can make sure that we're

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Speaker 1: safe from enemies abroad, it's going to be much easier

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Speaker 1: to deal with a lot of the craziness that's happening

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Speaker 1: right here in the United States. Ergo Minneapolis, you know,

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Speaker 1: and all that kind of nonsense. So I just feel

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Speaker 1: like this is so crucial and it is so absolutely important,

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Speaker 1: and I wanted to play another clip, But now, for

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Speaker 1: whatever reason, I have so many clips, I can't seem

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Speaker 1: to find the clip that I wanted to wanted to

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Speaker 1: play for you. Let me let me get your take

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Speaker 1: on the World Economic form in general. Are these these

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Speaker 1: people just just clowns? Has that thing just do you

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Speaker 1: see a resurgence of the World Economic form with trum.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'd imagine that if if a Democrat got

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Speaker 1: elected and went to the World Economic Form and bowed

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Speaker 1: down to those people at this point, they would look

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Speaker 1: really weak, wouldn't they. And then let me get your

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Speaker 1: take on Greenland.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, this is this is the globalist elites

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Speaker 3: getting together to plot how they're going to take wealth

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Speaker 3: away from the middle class, from ordinary people and funnel

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Speaker 3: it upward into their own bank accounts. This is about

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Speaker 3: reorganizing the world by very smart and voracious people, greedy

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Speaker 3: people who want to monopolize power and control. And it

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Speaker 3: kind of in the same way that the Chinese Communist

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Speaker 3: Party monopolizes power and control. Maybe not as quite as

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Speaker 3: blatantly or quite as using the military, but these people

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Speaker 3: want control and this The tone of the World Economic

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Speaker 3: Forum this time around was completely different. Everyone was saying,

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Speaker 3: even the people, even the Klaus Schwab in charge of

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Speaker 3: the World Economic we need to listen to the people more.

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Speaker 3: We need to understand these populists. The whole world is shifting,

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Speaker 3: The global tectonic plates are shifting in favor of liberty,

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Speaker 3: in favor of freedom, and God bless Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: Oh Man, and I hope we don't let it go

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Speaker 1: and listen, we don't have enough time, sadly to cover Greenland.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why I didn't mention that early and upfront,

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Speaker 1: but really I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: I listen.

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Speaker 1: I believe that Greenland. Whether you like the tactics or not,

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Speaker 1: it is absolutely necessary to protect our best interest, in

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Speaker 1: NATO's best interest. Steven Moser, thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: joining us. I really appreciate you as always always a

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Speaker 1: wealth of knowledge.

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Speaker 3: God bless you, Thank you all, bless you all right