WEBVTT - Why Megyn Kelly Stayed Quiet 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:04.680 My name is Charlie Kirk. 0:00:05.080 --> 0:00:08.520 I run the largest pro American student organization in the country, 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:12.520 fighting for the future of our republic. My call is 0:00:12.560 --> 0:00:15.360 to fight evil and to proclaim truth. If the most 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:18.840 important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:21.560 end up miserable. But if the most important thing is 0:00:21.720 --> 0:00:26.040 doing good, you'll end up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:27.880 You got to stop sending your kids to college. You 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:29.960 should get married as young as possible and have as 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:32.199 many kids as possible. Go start at turning point. You 0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:34.680 would say college chapter. Go start aturning point, yould say 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:36.680 high school chapter. Go find out how your church can 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:39.320 get involved. Sign up and become an activist. I gave 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:41.839 my life to the Lord in fifth grade, most important 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:44.599 decision I ever made in my life, and I encourage you. 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:45.080 To do the same. 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:49.720 Here I am Lord, Use me. Buckle up, everybody, Here 0:00:50.400 --> 0:00:58.800 we go. The Charlie Kirk Show is proudly sponsored by 0:00:58.800 --> 0:01:02.960 Preserved Gold, leading gold and silver experts and the only 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:07.000 precious metals company. I recommend to my family, friends and viewers. 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:12.759 So, Megan, you know what we're going to talk about here. It's, 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:20.280 of course the affordability crisis. Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean, 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:22.760 like you know, thank you for joining us and making 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:24.880 the time you are in demand. You went from one 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:26.399 thing to the next and next you had a delay 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:29.360 getting here. So I just want to give Megan Kelly 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:32.160 serious kudos that she still showed up for all of 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:34.600 you and for this podcast. God bless you for that. 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:37.679 I would not, of course love you guys, Thank you. 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:40.319 Love you, Megan. So I do want to give you 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:44.520 a chance to just kind of people didn't understand the 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:48.120 role you were playing behind the scenes, and I understood it, 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:51.160 and I wasn't I wasn't at liberty to explain what 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:54.040 you were doing behind the scenes. But I actually think 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:57.040 I want to say thank you because there was very 0:01:57.040 --> 0:01:59.240 few people that could have filled that role that you 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:02.040 were attempting to play, and you were holding your fire 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:04.240 even though your audience was like demanding you weigh in 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:07.000 on certain things and you didn't. You were disciplined and professional. 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:10.400 So I know exactly what you did and why you 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:12.280 did it, and I want to vouch for you as 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:15.400 a third party that understood why you were, you know, 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:18.360 remaining out of the fray, and you took a lot 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:20.120 of heat from that, what was that? Like, you know, 0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:21.000 so thank you for that. 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:26.000 Well, it's annoying to me to be attacked by people 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:29.120 who don't know what they're talking about. Right, So it's 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:30.840 one thing if you have your doubt's like why isn't 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:33.399 she saying this about that or this about the other thing? 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:36.200 And then maybe you reach out to me and say, 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:38.560 is there another reason? Like is there something I don't know? 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:41.920 But to see people who I consider like long term 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:46.080 friends go out and publicly call me a coward when 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:50.000 you and I both know how much we've talked behind 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:53.000 the scenes about how to handle this problem. What are 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:55.400 the options? What do we all think is the best option? 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:58.400 You too, Blake. We could do this, we could do this, 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:01.320 we could do that, Let's try this. Maybe we'll do 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:03.480 a baby step this way. You know, we've all been 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:07.360 talking for months and then it graduated to you know, 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:13.440 it was ramping up. And then Erica called me and uh, 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:17.560 it was her. It was her idea to meet with Candace, 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:20.560 and she said I want to do it. And I 0:03:20.600 --> 0:03:22.800 originally said, are you sure you want to do that? Like, 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:26.720 you know, Candace said, one word from you will silence this, 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:28.760 and maybe you just have to give her a word. 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:32.160 Maybe if you just send her a note or a. 0:03:31.919 --> 0:03:34.240 Letter, try try peace. 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:37.080 Like maybe maybe Candace wants an off ramp potentially, I 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:38.680 don't know. I don't know kandas that well, I know 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:40.080 her a little. I've gotten to know her a little 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:43.840 better over the past few months. So but Erica really 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:45.760 didn't want to do that. She thought it was important 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:48.880 that it be like an in person meeting and that 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:52.880 she allow herself to be subjected to whatever questions Candace had. 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:55.560 And she said, will you please be a part of 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:57.040 that with me, like will you go with me? And 0:03:57.120 --> 0:03:59.800 of course I said, yes, I'll go. And at that 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:03.800 I felt it was I was very lucky that I 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:07.800 hadn't been leading attacks against Candace, because I mean, obviously 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:09.600 I disagreed with her on all the things she said 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:10.920 about you guys have turning. But when I said that 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:12.600 on my show many times, I mean, it made very 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:15.360 clear to everybody I don't agree with these theories and 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:17.719 this is what I think happened, and all the evidence 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:22.120 suggests it is this man and whatever. But I was 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:25.400 very happy that I hadn't gone scorched earth on Candace 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:27.839 Owens because I was in a position where I would 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:29.840 have been acceptable to her, And sure enough she and 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:32.320 I had a text exchange shortly after mine with Erica 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:35.000 where she was like, I'm glad it's you. Yes, I'll 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:38.400 do it, and I just just excuse me, just saw 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:41.359 Erica backstage and she said, you can say whatever. You 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:45.040 can tell everybody what's happened. But the original plan was 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:47.640 that we were going to have a live stream on 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:49.520 the day. You guys were going to do the live 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:55.599 stream in Arizona was the first plan. Erica, Candace and 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:58.359 yours truly as more of a facilitator, those two were 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:00.280 going to do it, and I was going to there 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:04.240 just to keep everybody within the lines. And then Candace 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:07.320 said she was facing a security threat out here in 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:11.120 Arizona and that she couldn't she wasn't going to come. 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:12.320 And. 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:17.520 Erica said, I'll come to you, which I was surprised 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:19.400 Erica said that, you know, because if Erica didn't really 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:21.000 want to do this, she easily could have been like okay, 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:23.560 I offered, but she was like, no, well I'll come 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:25.640 to Nashville try it again. So I was like, wow, 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:29.520 Like Eric's strong, She's like she's going through a lot 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:31.440 right now, and she's got her kids and she had 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:33.880 just come off of like Charlie's book tour, was in 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:35.239 the middle of it, so it was like a lot 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:38.360 and I will say, to her credit, Candace actually wound 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:41.039 up saying okay to that though they the live stream 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:44.760 idea died, and they wound up deciding that they would 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:46.279 just meet the two of them since they weren't going 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:49.279 to put this out on the airwaves. Republic consumption consumption, 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:51.160 which was fine with me, and I thought that was 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:54.000 a good idea. And look, I mean, it's up to 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:55.680 them to talk about, you know, what did and did 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:58.520 not happen there. But my the initial impression, I think 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:00.479 it's fair to say from both women was that it 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:03.400 went it went well, and that it ended in a 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:06.960 much better place than where it started. Now will that 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:11.320 hold what's more fragile, the Gaza peace fire or this situation. 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:14.600 I know Eric is not going to do anything. The 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:16.440 question is where's Candice is going to take And I've 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:18.880 seen what she's doing this week. I really don't know. 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:23.320 My only goal all along has been to try not 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:26.000 to take sides. Not the turning point thing, but in 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:29.840 the Israel battle. That's happening in the conservative movement such 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:32.760 that I can make room for people who are upset 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:36.640 with Israel and not fans of Israel's behavior, and still, 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:39.840 you know, have room for the people who are ardently 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:42.159 pro Israel, as I have been, as Charlie was for 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:45.599 all those years. And then that morph like it started 0:06:45.600 --> 0:06:48.040 off like an insistence that I condemned the people who 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:51.520 were anti Israel into an insistence that I condemn every 0:06:51.560 --> 0:06:54.600 single iteration of what they were saying forevermore. And then 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:56.440 it felt to blmy for me, and I was like, 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:56.880 I'm out. 0:06:58.279 --> 0:07:00.680 It reminds me of what Russell Brand said from stage, 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:03.080 where he was just like, I'm so against it, like authority, 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:05.200 I have to rage against it, and it was there 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:07.200 is a thing you have. Tucker's kind of like that too. 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:10.360 When you tell Tucker he can't talk about something, He's 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:12.000 going to talk about it, like do if you want 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:14.080 him to talk about it, just do the reverse psychology 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:17.000 with Tucker. You cannot talk about UFOs and then the 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:19.360 guy's going to just go all in on UFOs for 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:21.480 like a year ago, and that was Charlie too. 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:24.240 Where people would say, don't have Tucker at the event 0:07:24.280 --> 0:07:26.320 and I remember him saying I might have to invite 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:26.760 him twice. 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:29.360 Now, yeah, he just got two speeches. Yeah, we're going 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:30.120 to do two speeches. 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:32.160 And it was just that was what he said. He 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:35.120 hated moral blackmail. Yes, if you want to make the 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:37.720 argument that he's wrong, he'd listen to that. With that 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:41.600 argument of you should feel strong armed into not associating 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:43.400 with him, he just despised that we Well. 0:07:43.080 --> 0:07:45.440 It's like it's not enough that you're not a critic, 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:48.760 Like you're not okay, So somebody like a Ben Shapiro 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:52.080 doesn't like the critics of Israel or whatever his latest 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:54.400 point is. Now he's trying to say it's all about Erica, 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:56.880 but it's about Israel. So he doesn't like the people 0:07:56.880 --> 0:07:59.720 who are critics of Israel. But then he also wants 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:02.800 to can them and excommunicate people who aren't critics of 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:04.920 the critics. They also need to go. So who will 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:07.200 be standing when Ben is done with us? Truly? Like 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:10.320 who It'll be Ben and Barry Weiss, It'll be great. 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:16.600 We're honored to be partnering with Alan Jackson Ministries, and 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:19.240 today I want to point you to their podcast. It's 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:23.480 called Culture in Christianity. The Alan Jackson podcast. What makes 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:26.960 it unique is Pastor Allan's biblical perspective. He takes the 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:29.440 truth from the Bible and applies it to issues we're 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:33.439 facing today, gender confusion, abortion, immigration, Doge Trump, and the 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:36.280 White House issues in the church. He doesn't just discuss 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:39.120 the problems in every episode, he gives practical things we 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:42.040 can do to make a difference. His guests have incredible 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:45.640 expertise and powerful testimonies. 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Whenever 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:24.920 people watch this, so I don't know when that will 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:29.760 be But were you talking about something that I said 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:33.120 this backstage. I was like, that is exactly what Charlie 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:35.400 would have said. And you said something about, you know, 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:38.800 friends should pick up the phone and call you if 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:41.000 they have a problem instead of sneak attack. And I 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:42.920 didn't know exactly who you were directing that at, but 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:44.880 it was Ben or Barry or both way to read. 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:48.360 It both okay, yeah, we got only cowards take to 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:52.760 the national stage or x to attack their friends without 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:55.520 so much as a phone call to discuss it. And 0:09:55.679 --> 0:10:00.000 also didn't tag me because she is afraid laughing emoji, 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:01.840 laughing emoji, laughing emoji. 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:05.320 I was retweeting a tweet by Barry Weiss which reads, 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:07.880 oh I can get that too, Yeah, it's attached. 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:12.160 It was Barry said, only cowards tolerate conspiracy theorists. Ben 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:15.679 Shapiro delivered a barn burner tonight at TPUSA. Read the 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:18.240 whole thing in the Free Press, and I think it's 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:19.320 just a link to his address. 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:22.360 Okay, so let me just tell you something. Barry Weiss 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:25.480 over the past five years has been like a good 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:28.520 friend of mine. I have advised her in her many 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:31.319 legal battles she's had I have advised her on her 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:37.480 failed nonprofit that she tried. I have constantly been there 0:10:37.480 --> 0:10:39.560 to help her through any sort of tumultuous thing that 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:42.720 came her way. We've had drinks together. Like I know 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:45.480 Barry Weiss, Ben Shapiro has been coming on my show 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:49.840 since twenty eleven. Nobody knew who he was. I literally 0:10:49.840 --> 0:10:52.840 helped make Ben Shapiro's name for him. So I have 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:55.440 a lot of very positive experiences in the well with 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:57.920 both of these folks, and they know that I've been 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:02.080 very pro Israel. So what in the actual. 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:08.000 Eleven year olds? Eleven year olds got job? I know 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:10.800 Charlie doesn't Charlie always say that, he would say he's 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:13.880 I always remember there's eleven year olds listening, and I 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:16.000 love that. It's such a guiding life from me. 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:19.559 But yes, so yeah, So I very much felt like 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:23.320 this is so out of line, This is so uncalled for. 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:25.960 Who wouldn't call me? These guys are they actually know me? 0:11:26.000 --> 0:11:28.120 I'm in both of their cell phones, they have my number. 0:11:28.600 --> 0:11:31.559 Who wouldn't just call me up and say, is there 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:34.200 something else going on here that I need to know? Right? Like? 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:37.480 What's going on? Nope, it's it's more fun to go 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:39.680 out on the stage and call a dear friend and 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:41.960 Ben couch it with, oh, she's a friend with friends 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:46.680 like that and call them a coward. Okay, take it 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:48.280 up with Erica. 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:51.160 You know I did this earlier. I'm not going to 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:53.960 do it again. I asked the audience, you know, did 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:56.880 you appreciate the Ben Shapiro approach? And about half the 0:11:56.920 --> 0:11:58.800 hands went up, and I said, do you appreciate the 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:02.800 Tucker approach? Half the hands went up, sometimes the same hand, Yeah, 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:07.080 because like this, yeah, one of these. It is very 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:11.000 interesting when you look at the divisions on the right, 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:13.880 you know. And that's why I started this conversation by 0:12:13.880 --> 0:12:15.960 praising that you were trying to be a peacemaker, that 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:18.200 you were trying to hold your fire, and you were 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:20.320 actually trying to do the right thing. Where you were 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:24.880 strategically doing something which people interpreted as cowardice, you were 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:27.440 actually playing a long game to help bring peace to 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:29.719 a situation that was pretty volatile. And that's why I 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:32.400 want people to know that why you did what you did, 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:34.640 Why I did not personally take offense, why I was 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:38.200 you know, all that thing, all those things, but the 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:41.720 divisions are are real and they do tend to come 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:44.080 down along this. A lot of this is the Israel. 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:47.600 It's the neo con it's the Israel issue. And you know, 0:12:47.640 --> 0:12:50.160 it's funny. I got a press inquiry going about that. 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:54.680 We just celebrated a one of the hostages on stage 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:58.599 and they were at the music festival five hundred and 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:01.240 five days in captivity, and they're like, well with all 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:03.120 the Israel stuff, you know, And I was like, wait, 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:05.800 are you conflating a foreign policy debate with whether or 0:13:05.840 --> 0:13:07.800 not it's okay for somebody to be held hostage for 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:10.120 five hundred and five days? Why have we lost our 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:12.520 ever loving minds about. 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:15.520 Some leftist statement? The leftist refused to celebrate when Trump 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:18.040 got the hostages out. It was like those emotional videos 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:19.680 of the hostage is being released, Like if you can't 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:23.320 celebrate that, you've lost your grip on humanity. But there's 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:26.360 no question Israel is dividing the conservative movement right now. 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:29.440 And may I just say, for the record, I strongly object. 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:32.520 I'm sorry. I say it's. 0:13:32.240 --> 0:13:34.880 Deeply wrong that we would ever divide America over a 0:13:34.960 --> 0:13:38.600 foreign country. I do think there is a contingent within 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:42.200 the pro Israeli group that is Israel first. They really are. 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:45.520 They're proving it every day, and you know, this is 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:46.960 some of what I'm going to talk about tonight. But 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:50.400 I don't see it that way at all. I'm not 0:13:51.080 --> 0:13:53.720 the people who are my enemy are the people who 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:56.840 shot Charlie Kirk. It's the people who want all of 0:13:56.920 --> 0:13:59.880 us dead because we're at a turning point convention. It 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:03.560 is not someone who doesn't like Israel or bb net 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:07.400 in Yahoo or even somebody who has some negative associations 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:11.760 with not Jewish people writ large, but with the Jewish 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:16.000 activists who are a bunch of bullies. I understand the 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:18.560 criticism against them because I've been on the receiving end 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:21.960 of it, notwithstanding the fact that I've never said one 0:14:22.040 --> 0:14:26.040 word against Israel, not one word. It's my failure to 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:31.720 condemn as if I am mother of the Internet. It's ridiculous. 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:35.480 So I really think these the pro Israel advocates, like 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:38.520 the most loud and outspoken ones, are the ones who 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:39.960 are tearing the movement apart. 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:42.240 Yeah, it was interesting because there was a lot made 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:45.280 after Charlie was assassinated about the meeting in the Hamptons, 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:47.800 like it became this like, oh it all went down 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:50.840 to the Hamptons and that's why Charlie's dead. And you know, 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:52.480 it's funny. I talked to Charlie and he's like, I 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:54.680 was kind of boring whatever, And I talked to all 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:57.600 the team. Nothing like exceptional. Really that exceptional happened, at 0:14:57.680 --> 0:15:00.200 least in Charlie's mind. And I asked him. I was like, 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:01.880 what was the whole point of the Hampton saying? He 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:03.440 was like, oh, it is an intervention. I was like, 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:06.320 for them on you or you on them. He's like, oh, yeah, 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:08.040 for me on them. I needed to tell like my 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:10.560 Jewish friends, like they're they're causing more damage than they 0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:13.320 are good and they're driving people away. And I and 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:15.200 you know, And then another thing that went viral was 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:18.480 you and Charlie's conversation on your show right after that, Yeah, 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:21.480 where he was just like so annoyed at the moral 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:24.680 blackmailing and it's like, we are we are your friends. 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:27.120 You know, you don't you found it repulsive? 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:29.880 Yeah? He did, and I and you know, and I 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:33.080 try and have a sensitivity for it, and I sympathize 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:36.120 with it because you know, just like you, I have 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:39.360 been pro Israel my whole life. I've never really even 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:41.760 questioned it. You know, I like them better than the 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:44.000 other guys, you know, like that as an American. I mean, 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:46.480 you know we have similar enemies. You know, I love 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:48.680 the Holy Land. I love like that my Lord and 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:50.960 Savior walked there, you know, and that they are good 0:15:51.000 --> 0:15:54.560 stewards of a lot of those holy sites. But you know, 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:57.280 when you get to a point where you're like your friend, 0:15:57.360 --> 0:16:00.680 your friends have gone through this traumatic situation of over seventh, 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:02.680 you try and have sympathy for that and understand that 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:07.320 it's been a traumatic experience, but you know, we have 0:16:07.400 --> 0:16:09.880 to find a way through here, a third way through. 0:16:09.960 --> 0:16:11.520 And I think that's what Charlie was doing. He was 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:14.240 trying to fight for a larger conversation that more people 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:15.080 could feel a part of it. 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:17.640 I agree both of us were, and that's why when 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:19.120 he came on that show. You and I've talked about 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:20.800 this many times. But when he came on my show 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:25.160 on August sixth, which was post the intervention, we were 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:29.040 not planning on discussing Israel. I'm trying to get my 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:31.120 exact timing right, because he came on once a month, 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:34.000 so I think that was the August sixth one. We 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:37.040 were not planning on discussing Israel at all. I just knew. 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:39.280 I knew from seeing him at the Student Action Summit 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:41.760 where we had a backstage exchange, that he had had it, 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:45.200 and I was feeling the same. I was like, this 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:48.640 isn't very annoying. I had said almost nothing about Israel. Literally, 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:50.760 I'd gone on Piers Morgan and said, I think it's 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:53.440 time to wrap it up for them, because their approval 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:57.920 rating is plummeting. Like the popularity of Israel and Yahoo 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:01.040 in America. They've already lost the liberals, they've love independence, 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:04.600 they're starting to lose Republicans, especially the young people, which 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:06.240 is who Charlie spent his life surrounded by. So he 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:12.720 knew too. And for that the brigade turned and they 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:15.960 were very, very angry that I said at the Studentational 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:18.840 Summit that Epstein, if he was being controlled by anybody, 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:22.040 any sort of foreign intelligence service, it was probably Masad 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:26.240 anti semit that's an anti Semitic. Literally Benjamin Netanyah who 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:28.840 just sent out a tweet saying that within the past 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:31.800 twenty days is he anti Semitic. So it's like both 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:34.920 of us were feeling this is insane, Like if they'll 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:37.399 do this to two ardent advocates who have been on 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:39.680 their side openly and avowedly for two years now, since 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:41.960 ten to seven, not to mention before that, then they'll 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:44.000 do this to anybody. And it really did cause me 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:46.919 to start looking harder at some of the claims that 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:50.200 they've been throwing out of anti Semitic and to your point, Andrew, 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:52.479 I'm going to say something else, and this is their fault? 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:57.119 Is this is their fault. I've also been somebody who's 0:17:57.200 --> 0:17:59.920 knee jerk supported Israel my whole life, and then I 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:02.480 got to Fox and you had to It was not 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:06.480 a question like you must support Israel, which was fine 0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:10.200 because that was my natural inclination anyway. But it's only 0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:14.760 now that I'm starting to reevaluate do I support Israel? Like? 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:18.359 What is it about Israel that I support? Why have 0:18:18.480 --> 0:18:21.560 I been so knee jerk defensive of them? Is there 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:25.560 another side to consider? Have I been? Have I been 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:28.680 intolerant of people who have a different argument on this? 0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:31.040 And do I need to do some soul searching on 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:34.880 my certainty about what white hat warriors they are? And 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:39.400 I'm telling you it is not Hamas or the Palestinian 0:18:39.480 --> 0:18:42.320 protesters on Columbia campus who got me to start thinking 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:45.399 that way. It is the bullies who are trying to 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:50.119 censor speech on our side about this issue. 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:53.399 President Trump walked into a catch twenty two when taking office. 0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:55.720 Do nothing in America would be staring at a ticking 0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:58.920 debt bomb, the kind of crisis that could cripple our future. Instead, 0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:02.000 he's taken action with strong policies to slow the train 0:19:02.080 --> 0:19:05.000 and buy some time. But the effects of past administration 0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:08.119 spending are still working through the system, and experts predict 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:11.719 dramatic price increases and market uncertainty. 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