1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: American student organization in the country, fighting for the future 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: of our republic. My call is to fight evil and 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: if the most important thing is doing good, you'll end 7 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You got to 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: stop sending your kids to college. 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The 18 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk Show is proudly sponsored by Preserved Gold, leading 19 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: gold and silver experts and the only precious metals company 20 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: I recommend to my family, friends and viewers. 21 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 3: All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. It's Friday, 22 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 3: February thirteenth. It's an ominous sign, isn't it. That's like 23 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 3: two of those a year. Yeah, well, you know, listen 24 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 3: Friday the thirteenth. That's the thing. I want to start 25 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 3: off today with the nomination of Jeremy carl in the Senate, Yes, 26 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 3: as the Assistant Secretary of State of State for International Organizations, 27 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 3: also referred to as Assistant Secretary of State. 28 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 4: It's basically one of our guys that goes to the UN. 29 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 4: And if that sounds like an odd thing to focus on, 30 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 4: it's not because one of our roles with this show, 31 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 4: one of the roles we have with Turning Point USA, 32 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 4: is we want to perpetuate Charlie's legacy. And one of 33 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 4: the most immediate legacies he's had he has is the 34 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 4: people he fought to put in the administration that he 35 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 4: campaigned for. Get these are some of my favorite people. 36 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 4: Give them a job in the administration. We've had Sarah 37 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 4: Rodgers on the show. She's one of the people he 38 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 4: really wanted to literally just a superstar by she's amazing. Well, 39 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 4: we're going to be having her on again soon. She's 40 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 4: all sorts of exciting. 41 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 3: Can I just say I was just I literally just 42 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 3: did an interview with Politico before the show started, talking 43 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 3: about Nate Morris in Kentucky and about how Charlie's endorsement 44 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 3: of Nate is still propelling him forward in that race. 45 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 3: So it looms large, and yes, to your point, this 46 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 3: is an important one here with Jeremy Carle. 47 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 4: So Jeremy's another one he wanted. He was a frequent 48 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 4: guest in our show. He was the author of the 49 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 4: Unprotected Class, which is one of those really strong calling 50 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 4: out how anti white racism has become this pervasive thing 51 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 4: in America. 52 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 3: If you want to show that up. 53 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 4: Not allowed to talk about it, but he did, and 54 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 4: for that he's been facing per We'll just say, yeah, persecution, Yeah, 55 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,839 Speaker 4: because he went before a Senate panel and had these 56 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 4: parasites trash him for doing this. So this is a 57 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 4: clip from yesterday, Senator Chris Murphy. Let's play clip five 58 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 4: point fifty. 59 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 5: Mister carl I think it's just heartbreaking that you have 60 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 5: been nominated for this position, that you've reached a panel 61 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 5: before the United States Senate. One of the things you 62 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 5: have said is that anti white discrimination is the most 63 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 5: pervasive and politically salient form of racism today. 64 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 6: Certainly This is my belief. I'm not running away from that. 65 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 6: I think that while of course all races in different 66 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 6: contexts can be subject to really severe discrimination, that when 67 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 6: we look at our legal structures, white Americans are often 68 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,399 Speaker 6: very disfavored in overt ways. 69 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 4: Which is objectively true. 70 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 3: Completely the stance of this show. 71 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 4: Yes, in California right now they're fighting to change their 72 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 4: law to be explicit. Oh, can we actually legally discriminated 73 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 4: against white people? It's too hard for us to do 74 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 4: it in the shadows, but in plenty of other states 75 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 4: it is explicitly legal. In our federal government, they've been 76 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 4: doing it for ages, and they've been throwing temper tantrums 77 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 4: at the Trump administration's attempts to roll it back, and 78 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 4: he's highlighted that, and for that they put him in 79 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 4: the docket and just try to humiliate him. 80 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 3: Well, they're calling him a white supremacist, which is it's 81 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 3: funny because he's and they're they're saying he's and an 82 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 3: anti yes, anti Semitic. Well, Jeremy Carl grew up as 83 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 3: a Jew, which is hilarious. You could show these image 84 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 3: images five sixty five, sixty one. So, uh, this is 85 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 3: Senator Rosen. The Jews love to see themselves as oppressed, 86 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 3: is what he said, five sixty one. A post feminist 87 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 3: war America is one of falling fertility, rapid rapidly rising 88 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 3: out of wedlock, bursts, religious collapse, and an explosion of 89 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 3: latchkey kids. 90 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 4: A true, all true, all true. 91 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 3: Uh. And that's uh shaheen uh, Senator shaheen. I don't 92 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 3: know what the heck the problem is. It's like they 93 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 3: think saying the truth is somehow beyond the pale. Now 94 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 3: and what's funny is? And we what's the clip with Booker? 95 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 3: This is? This is a fun one. Actually, let's start here. 96 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 3: Five sixty two. I think this is, Senator Rosen, five 97 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 3: sixty two. 98 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 7: Mister Carl is infamous for delete thousands of his past tweets, 99 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 7: But deleting tweets doesn't delete them. They recorded podcast interviews, 100 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 7: public speeches, or editorials that he's done. As many of 101 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 7: my colleagues have and will point out, mister Carl's vile 102 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 7: anti Semitic comments are very real. Whether he not he 103 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 7: tried to erase them or excuse them. Some may try 104 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 7: to excuse mister Carl's remarks, claiming his words were taken 105 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 7: out of context, that he never said them, and his 106 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 7: own heritage protects him from criticism. So let me be clear. 107 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 7: Identity does not excuse anti semitism. Identity does not excuse racism. 108 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 7: Identity does not excuse hateful rhetoric. Regardless of who says them. 109 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 7: Words matter, as my colleagues have said. 110 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 4: And she goes on like that for about two minutes, 111 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 4: and it's so disgusting to me because this is what 112 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 4: they've fixated on. They're going to say, this guy is 113 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 4: an anti Semite. So we can't appoint him to do 114 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 4: President Trump's work at the UN or spoilers one of 115 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 4: the main things we do at the UN, as we 116 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 4: actually have to constantly fend off resolutions that they do 117 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 4: to basically attack two groups. They love passing resolutions at 118 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 4: the UN to attack Israel, and they love passing resolutions 119 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 4: at the UN to attack like settler countries, which always 120 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 4: include America. So they'll do these indigenous rights things, all 121 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 4: of that, and he's made it very clear he's going 122 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 4: to pursue that agenda. He obviously understands, as Charlie did, 123 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 4: that a huge number of the attacks on Israel are 124 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 4: ultimately attacks on Western civilization attacks on white people, like 125 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 4: you know, through that coded lens, and they fixate on 126 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 4: him because he's said things which Charlie himself did that 127 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 4: are basically the constant fights over Israel often derail American 128 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 4: politics and are not a good thing. That's what he said. 129 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, Jeremy carl is a completely mainstream America first, 130 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 3: populous conservative guy. There's nothing, there's nothing that stand out 131 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 3: about Jeremy in this sort of ideological sense. The only 132 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 3: thing stand out about him is that he's going to 133 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 3: be extremely effective in setting right a lot of the 134 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 3: wrongs of the sort of you know, Transatlantic sort of 135 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 3: liberal hegemony. 136 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 8: Right. 137 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 3: So here's one that I just love. This clip with 138 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 3: Senator Corey Booker is just amazing, and we're going to 139 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 3: prove just how stupid Senator Corey Booker is. On the 140 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 3: other side, it's five twenty five. 141 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 2: What do you mean when you say that you believe 142 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 2: in the great replacement theory? 143 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 5: Senator? 144 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 6: Thank you for that question. This refers to the intentional 145 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 6: demographic replacement of Europeans in Europe. It was invented by 146 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 6: Renault Kamu, who was a French scholar. 147 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 2: You think there's an active effort to quote unquote replace 148 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 2: Americans right now. 149 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 6: Senator, I think the demographic Party, through its immigration policies, 150 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 6: has certainly settin signs of that. 151 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 2: And I don't understand that. 152 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 4: I don't understand that there was a great tweet that 153 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 4: went viral and so good that, like so much discourse 154 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 4: in America, is just the left pretending not to understand things, 155 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 4: because of course they understand it. They'll brag about this. Oh, 156 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 4: They'll have their meetings and they'll say, Okay, guys, here's 157 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 4: the countdown until white people aren't you know politically. I mean, 158 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 4: Gene Wu, you just had that thing. Hey, guys, we're 159 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 4: actually the majority in this area. We should just take 160 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 4: over like Wajah hot Ali. 161 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 3: You know, the mistake you made was letting us in 162 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 3: in the first place. There is literally hours of footage 163 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 3: from just the two thousands of progressives going on television 164 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 3: bragging about the browning of America and how we're gonna 165 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 3: turn everything Democrat Party. This was the promise of the 166 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 3: Obama years that the demographic shifts in America, we're going 167 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 3: to deliver a permanent Democrat majority across the board because 168 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 3: brown people vote Democrat. That was the whole point. 169 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 4: There have been left wing NGOs that have literally had 170 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 4: a chart that's tracing out the white percentage America in 171 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 4: the future, and they highlight the year it goes below 172 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 4: fifty percent. 173 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 3: Yep. 174 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 4: And so that's what's going on. And I want to 175 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 4: just make sure we hit this in this segment that 176 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 4: Utah Senator John Curtis, a former Democrat but somehow now 177 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 4: got himself elected as a Republican, has said that for 178 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 4: now he's opposing Jerry Carl's nomination after reviewing his record 179 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 4: and participating in today's hearing. I'm not convinced that Jeremy 180 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 4: Carl is the right person to represent our nation's best 181 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 4: interest in international forums. And I find his anti Israel 182 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 4: views and insensitive remarks about Jews unbecoming of the position 183 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 4: for which he has been nominated. 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We just played one in the first segment, 240 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 3: but I want to play it again, and then I'm 241 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 3: gonna juxtapose it with one of the all time favorite 242 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 3: clips of Charlie on this show, five point twenty five 243 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 3: and then five sixty three. 244 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 2: What do you mean when you say that you believe 245 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 2: in the great replacement theory? 246 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 6: Senator, Thank you for that question. This refers to the 247 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 6: intentional demographic replacement of Europeans in Europe. It was invented 248 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 6: by Renaul Kamu, who was a French scholar. 249 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 2: You think there's an active effort to quote unquote replace 250 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 2: Americans right. 251 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 6: Now, Senator, I think the Democratic Party, through its immigration policies, 252 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 6: has certainly senttin signs of that. 253 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 2: And I don't understand that. 254 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 3: I don't understand this. I don't understand that. Five sixty three, 255 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 3: here's the Castro Brothers great throwback. 256 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 9: Texas is a very very republican state, but some people 257 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 9: say the demographics are changing, and the demographics alone will 258 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 9: make that it won't be so republican next time around. 259 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 8: In a couple of presidential cycles, you'll be on election night, 260 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 8: you'll be announcing that we're calling the thirty eight electoral 261 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 8: votes of Texas for the Democratic nominee for president. It's changing. 262 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 8: It's going to become a purple state and then a 263 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 8: blue state because of the demographics, because of the population 264 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 8: growth of folks from outside of Texas. No. 265 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 10: I think that's right, but it's not going to happen 266 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 10: on its own. The demographics are changing, but it's going 267 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 10: to take a lot of work from Democrats to lay 268 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 10: the infrastructure for change. So we're very busy working on 269 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 10: that now. 270 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 3: Oh, Okay, so the demographics are changing in Texas. That's 271 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 3: how they plan to change Texas. Here's the truth. Democrats 272 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 3: have not won the white vote in a national election, 273 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 3: and they're highly aware. 274 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 4: Of this in generations, so cannot win with the historical 275 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 4: American population. So they have banked on bring in a 276 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 4: new population. So what they do. They'll even write about, oh, 277 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 4: the betrayal where they didn't do as well with a 278 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 4: Hispanic vote in twenty twenty four, and like, oh, it's 279 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 4: a betrayal because the plan might have gone awry, and 280 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 4: they'll try to repeat it again. That's part of what 281 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 4: the Biden operation was is if people are assimilating too 282 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 4: quickly to not being Democrats, we might have to really 283 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 4: flood the zone. Let's let in fifteen million people. AM 284 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 4: going to see them. 285 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 3: That'll lock it in well, and I'm going to have 286 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 3: Danny pull this. 287 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 9: Uh. 288 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 3: Social security numbers. The Biden administration in twenty twenty four 289 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 3: gave out a record number of social security numbers just 290 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 3: to try and juice the election. I'm convinced. I mean 291 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 3: we're talking. If we get the graph here, I really 292 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 3: want to find it. It is stark. The difference between 293 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 3: basically every other year, and then twenty twenty four they 294 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 3: surged it. If you don't think for a second that 295 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 3: they're not banking on demographic change to change the political 296 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 3: future of this country, you are a fool and you're 297 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:43,359 Speaker 3: not paying attention. And I find this that younger conservatives 298 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 3: understand this completely. The older you get, the more you're 299 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 3: operating under an old paradigm where you I don't know 300 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 3: if it's civil rights hangover there. You go, look at 301 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, that's how many Social Security cards that 302 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 3: the numbers that the Biden administration rushed surged to get 303 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 3: out and candidly in twenty twenty five, it's still too high, 304 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 3: but it was probably a backlog I'm told from you know, 305 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 3: Biden pushing things through. So hopefully that number drops back 306 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 3: down to where it should be. But that was intentional, right. 307 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 4: Rush Like naturalizations too, they were trying to rubber stand 308 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 4: as many new citizenships as soon as they could. This 309 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 4: was covered in the New York Times and other publications. 310 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 3: No, this this is a big thing. I think we 311 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 3: wanted to highlight the Jeremy Carl instance because you know, 312 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 3: we do this with DEI, we do this with trans 313 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 3: You know, we looked at twenty twenty four as this 314 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 3: great rebuke of the excesses of woke, the excesses of 315 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 3: radical progressivism. And yet we see this with Mom Donnie, 316 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 3: We see this in Seattle with their mayor Brandon Johnson. 317 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 3: In Chicago, what happened in Minneapolis. Woke is not dead. 318 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 3: Woke took a took a beating in twenty twenty four, 319 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 3: and it has these little pockets of power, these strongholds, 320 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 3: and they're going to regather their constitution and they're going 321 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 3: to try and push out and expand again. And you 322 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 3: just see this with the Democrats in the Senate about 323 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 3: Jeremy carl a man once again, extremely competent, extremely qualified, 324 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 3: who holds mainstream conservative views when it comes to race, populism, 325 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 3: national sovereignty, immigration, replacement, immigration. These are not controversial at 326 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 3: all for half of America. And they walk into that 327 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 3: Senate chamber and they go completely hysterical, acting completely shocked 328 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 3: about the fact that we think any of these things. 329 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 3: This is not a surprise anymore. We know what's happening. 330 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 3: You guys have been called on a ton and we 331 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 3: have immunities. We built up immunities as a conservative movement 332 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 3: to us garbage. 333 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 4: Because apparently the senator from Utah. 334 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 3: Is Listen, that's a whole other thing. Listen, the senator 335 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 3: from Utah, Senator Curtis, throw up his picture, would you, 336 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 3: so people know this guy's news. I believe he's the 337 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 3: one replaced Romney. 338 00:17:58,600 --> 00:17:58,719 Speaker 10: Uh. 339 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 3: This guy has been and I mean I think he's 340 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 3: kind of flown under the radar a little bit. Mostly. 341 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 3: He's kind of gone along, get along, you know, to 342 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 3: he goes along to get along mostly. And listen, if 343 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 3: that's gonna be what your choice is in the Senate, fine, 344 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 3: we'll live with it. But there has been so many 345 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 3: troubling moments with this guy that he is a he 346 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 3: is a squish, he is an establishment guy. Here's your offer. 347 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 3: Don't do this with Jeremy Carl and we're gonna move 348 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 3: on and we're gonna forget about you. We're not gonna forget, 349 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 3: but we're gonna We're gonna let this one go. But man, 350 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 3: if you try and draw a line on Jeremy Carl, 351 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 3: we will make loud noises, we will continue coming after you. 352 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 3: We will not forget mister Curtis, because this is obscene. 353 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 3: And again we start, we'll end where we started. Charlie 354 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 3: believed in Jeremy Carl. Charlie fought to get Jeremy Carl 355 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 3: into this administration, and we will continue that mission without 356 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 3: without flinching, mister Curtis, So don't try us. 357 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 4: The online world moves fast, and it's moving even faster 358 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 4: these days. That's why TikTok approaches teen safety with families 359 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 4: in mind from the start, because discovery and creativity are 360 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 4: both wonderful things, but it's important to make sure that 361 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 4: safety comes first as well. On TikTok, teenagers have over 362 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 4: fifty built in protections right from when they join. 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Their protections are built 371 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 4: in from the moment those teenagers join so that safety 372 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 4: and peace of mind for parents is there right from 373 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 4: the start. All of this is to say when safety 374 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 4: comes first, discovery and creativity can follow without fear. Learn 375 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 4: more by going to TikTok dot com slash guardians Guide. 376 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 4: That's TikTok dot com slash guardians Guide. So we have 377 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 4: Saga and Jety. We've had him on a few times 378 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 4: to talk about We talked about property taxes. Definitely inspired 379 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 4: a very strong reaction our viewers. Oh still people will 380 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 4: still send that in, but no regrets. But he's also 381 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 4: been a very vocal person. He was one of the ones, 382 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 4: I would say, over the last few years, one of 383 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 4: the loudest voices against marijuana, which we also discussed with 384 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,959 Speaker 4: Alex Bearnson yesterday. He was really one of the other 385 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 4: ones beating the drum. He had a very viral tweet 386 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 4: pointing out the sheer number of people who've gotten addicted 387 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 4: to marijuana. And then he's he's really getting vindicated because 388 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 4: now with the New York Times coming out and some 389 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 4: others admitting actually the rush to legalizing it and subsidizing it, 390 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 4: he gets to take a back put in everyone big mistake. Saga, 391 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 4: are you there yeah, take a little victory lap here 392 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 4: for a second. 393 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 11: Thank you very much. 394 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 12: Gentlemen, Look, it's not a victory lap, because a victory 395 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 12: lap for me is a tragedy for our country. We have, 396 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 12: you know, millions, tens of millions, almost five percent of 397 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 12: the US population, a significant part of our adult population, 398 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 12: which is using marijuana, high potency marijuana on a daily basis. 399 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 12: This is lebotomizing a significant portion of our population at 400 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 12: lower's IQ, at lower's testosterone. It's dangerous for pregnant women. 401 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 12: I mean, we can go down so many of the lists. 402 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 12: The number one pushback that I get, and I will say, gentlemen, 403 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 12: you may find this shocking. I have spoken about the 404 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 12: most controversial issues of the time, ice, you know, BLM 405 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 12: and everything. I have received hate mail many times, daylight savings, 406 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 12: property tax. As you said, nothing inspires more hatred for 407 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 12: me personally than talking about the ills of marijuana, and 408 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 12: in particular, the one I hear the most is about 409 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 12: so called medical benefits. I need to remind everyone that 410 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 12: a massive study just came out not even three months ago, 411 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 12: go written up by The New York Times, by JAMA 412 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 12: major medical journals that shows that all of the claims, 413 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 12: almost all the claims about medical marijuana are completely fake. 414 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 12: And I think that what's something very insidious and dangerous 415 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 12: about this drug is the worship of it by many 416 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 12: of its users. People who are alcoholics do not try 417 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 12: to justify their alcohol use by saying that it's curing them. 418 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 11: It's a shameful activity. 419 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 12: And frankly, I think it should be like if you 420 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 12: need to drink every single day to function, like you 421 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 12: have a real problem. And I think that exactly the 422 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 12: same thing of marijuana, except its proponents will say that 423 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 12: there's nothing wrong with that. Our cultural norms around marijuana 424 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 12: are encouraging high potency indulgence by huge segments of our population. 425 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 12: There is no proper regulation, and unfortunately, you know a 426 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 12: significant part of both bipartisan America are being seduced by 427 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 12: what is now big weed. I mean, these people make 428 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 12: big Tobacco look like choir boys with the way that 429 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 12: they have been lobbying not only this administration but others 430 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 12: to Americans as hooked on this drug as possible, and 431 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 12: to keep out responsible voices who are warning about its problems, 432 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 12: just like Alex Bearnson did with Tell Your Children, which 433 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 12: I highly recommend if you are a parent, you need 434 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 12: to buy that book. You need to read it and 435 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 12: need to keep your kids away from this substance. 436 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 4: No, Sager. So we agree with you, but we get 437 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 4: a lot of emails. We got several just yesterday from people, 438 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 4: hate mail, but also people We had the ones who said, 439 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 4: I got cancer or I have cancer and I take 440 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 4: it and I think it helps with it a great deal. 441 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 4: Do you think those stories are authentic or do you 442 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 4: think they're confusing maybe other medical effects with marijuana. 443 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, Blake, as we've said, you know, the 444 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 12: ANEC data is not data, and then the actual medical 445 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,239 Speaker 12: review of these claims does not hold scrutiny. And by 446 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 12: the way, you know, one of the biggest pushbacks I 447 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 12: get is like, why don't you talk about alcohol. 448 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 11: I don't drink alcohol. 449 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 12: I believe Charlie stayed away from it as well. You know, 450 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 12: we all talked about that previously, and you know, I'll 451 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 12: happily talk about some of the dangers of that. But again, 452 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 12: alcohols are not trying to justify their alcohol use. You know, 453 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 12: one of the things I've also warned about there was 454 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 12: a more recent study I believe he was out of 455 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 12: the state of Ohio or Michigan. I need to go 456 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 12: back and to check, but it did show that a 457 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 12: significant portion of driver debts whenever they checked their blood 458 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 12: had high levels of THHC such potent enough for them 459 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 12: to cause impairment in driving. People who you know, go 460 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 12: after alcohol like to talk about correctly dwis and impair driving. 461 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 12: But everybody seems to ignore that we have a significant 462 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 12: enough cannabis crisis for people who are driving while high. Nobody, 463 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 12: nobody is paying attention to these So I would just 464 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 12: say to that person the same way I talk to 465 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 12: people whenever I talk about the dangers of SSRIs. It 466 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 12: may have made you feel as if it worked in 467 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 12: that case, but in a longitudinal study we see that 468 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 12: it does not hold even close to the same benefit, 469 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 12: let's say, of things with not even near the amount 470 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 12: of danger, like exercise and or diet. So these claims, 471 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 12: while we can, you know, take individually, when we study 472 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 12: them in the long term, we see that on the 473 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 12: whole they do not hold up as promised and look 474 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 12: like not to get leud. But just yesterday, you know, 475 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 12: as a joke, I was tweeting about cannabis suppositories, which 476 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 12: I did not know was a thing. And yeah, so 477 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 12: that's that's a thing. It's extremely high potent. And you know, 478 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 12: the criticism, my god, is like, you're making fun of 479 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 12: cancer patients. And I went to the website which is 480 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 12: selling these cannabis suppositories and what's the very first thing 481 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 12: and it says a discrete ways to use cannabis, right, 482 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 12: Like even the sellers are in on the joke, like 483 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 12: they use medical marijuana as a claim to try and 484 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 12: give it some veneer of health, when in reality, this 485 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 12: is about addiction and it's a tragic story. You know, 486 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 12: marijuana is not a costless drug. I highly recommend people, 487 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 12: you know, read Alex Sperenson's book about psychosis. Check out 488 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 12: Andrew Huberman's work on the topic as well. It's ruining 489 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 12: your sleep if you're a young man, in particular, if 490 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 12: you want to have a family, it's effect on testosterone, 491 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 12: on your ability to have children. 492 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 11: People are not telling you the truth. 493 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 12: And then similarly, with a lot of pregnant women, Every 494 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 12: pregnant woman in America knows you should stay away from alcohol. Unfortunately, 495 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 12: because of this medical worship culture around marijuana, they are 496 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 12: using marijuana in some cases for pain relief for others 497 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 12: because they believe the propaganda of costlessness and it is 498 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 12: already causing problems for children in the womb, not to 499 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 12: mention the explosion of something called cannabis hypermesi syndrome, which 500 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 12: you can all look up. Scrommating is an effect where 501 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 12: you're just like significantly vomiting people, you know, children, teenagers 502 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 12: and others who are vaping this very high potency drug. 503 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 12: Ask any er doctor in your life, they will know 504 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 12: exactly what I am talking about. 505 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 11: This is a crisis. It's a full blown crisis. 506 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,439 Speaker 3: Well I think, yeah, I was going to say that. 507 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 3: The two things that hit me what you're talking about, 508 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 3: Sega is the driving while high This is I mean 509 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 3: high school kids. This is a famous, famous thing for 510 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 3: high school kids. They think it's like a joke. So 511 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 3: I think you're absolutely right. We should make progress on 512 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 3: passing laws that you know, maybe we already have them, 513 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 3: but like actually in four them. So that's one thing, 514 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 3: young men in the schizophrenia thing. You saw the Brett 515 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 3: Cooper tweet that went viral, that's another because that THHG 516 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 3: is so much more potent now than it was, you know, 517 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 3: back in the sixties. And seventies. Here's here's the last 518 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 3: pushback that we got as far as emails yesterday. And 519 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 3: by the way, people feel free to email us Freedom 520 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 3: at Charliekirk dot com give us your thoughts. I know 521 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 3: a lot of you disagree with this. There's a libertarian 522 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 3: streak in the conservative movement, especially when it comes to marijuana. 523 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 3: They say, hey, listen, these things are all legal, cigarettes, drinking, 524 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 3: you know, marijuana should be considered the same. What is 525 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 3: your pushback directly to that libertarian like, just don't get 526 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 3: you know, get off my lawn. Government, don't tell me 527 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 3: what to do. Leave me. 528 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 12: Look, I hear you, I hear you loud and clear. However, 529 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 12: we accept as a society that total freedom would be anarchy, 530 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 12: and so we have to have well established forms. And 531 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 12: when your freedom begins to have high levels of societal 532 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 12: costs and cause danger and medical crises and significantly ramp up, 533 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 12: let's say, you know, violence in some cases. You know, 534 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 12: by the way, we haven't even talked about the mass 535 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 12: shooter angle. The number of mass shooters who are cannabis 536 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 12: addicts is unbelievable, even though it's a relatively small subset. 537 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 12: So SSRI certainly should be discussed, but that's another angle 538 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 12: through which we should The point around it is that 539 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 12: nobody is saying, at least me, I am not saying 540 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 12: that you holding a dimebag should send you to jail. 541 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 12: What I am saying is that we need very well 542 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 12: established norms and regulation to keep these companies which are 543 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 12: selling these products of extremely high potency with no limits 544 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 12: on advertising, no actual analysis of its claims, no safeguards 545 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 12: to try and keep it away from children. And I 546 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 12: encourage people to try and to think in that way. 547 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 12: This is a normative conversation in the beginning, Like, really, 548 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 12: what I'm talking about here is culture, perhaps more than anything. 549 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 12: The same way that we have conquered smoking in the 550 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 12: United States largely, same with drinking. At some of the 551 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 12: higher echelons of society, we've seen drinking come down significantly. 552 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 11: We need to do the same thing with weed. 553 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 4: I'm just thinking about the tragedy of like, because we 554 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 4: had that peak where oh, actually marijuana is great, and 555 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 4: in fact it has it has health benefits of anything. 556 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 4: I'm thinking when we started to legalize it, it wasn't 557 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 4: even just oh it's legal now. We were getting Democrats 558 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 4: were having these bills to subsidize it so like former 559 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 4: cunt convicted drug dealers, like black Americans could open their 560 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 4: own weed stores, so we can have as many weed 561 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 4: stores as possible in low income neighborhoods. And I'm just thinking, 562 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 4: we're going to look back at this in ten years, 563 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 4: fifteen twenty, and that'll be the new argument they used 564 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 4: to prove why America's racist. They'll say, not only did 565 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 4: they legalize weed, they subsidized putting weed into black neighborhood 566 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 4: And it's going it's going to be so hard to explain. No, Actually, 567 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 4: that is what liberals were doing well as a do 568 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 4: gooder thing. 569 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 3: You know. I'm thinking like Tyler Robinson and his like 570 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 3: Lance Twigs. 571 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 4: Yes, the Shooter and Tumblr Ridge the other Apparently it 572 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 4: was like a bunch of you think. 573 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 3: About the the delivery mechanism of modern weed with vaping 574 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 3: versus you go back into your mind like what the 575 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 3: hippies were doing. It's like the hippies you get around 576 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 3: a you know, a bong and it would be like. 577 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 4: They had like an actual plant and it took off 578 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 4: some mountain. 579 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 3: Now, but it was like it was like an almost 580 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 3: it was just it took a lot more effort right 581 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 3: to get around you had to you know, get it already. 582 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 3: And now it's like, oh, you know, you're just sitting 583 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 3: on the couch watching TV vaping and it's just the 584 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 3: And by the way, the dosage is so much higher. 585 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 3: It's like that, it's so much easier to make it 586 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 3: a chronic repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, kind of like usage thing. 587 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 3: It becomes much more habitual. 588 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: But another component of all of this which cannot be 589 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: lost is that when marijuana is legalized, you invite corporate 590 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: actors that are very, very good at making things addictive. 591 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: The operative question, the most important question, will more people 592 00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: using weed make America a stronger, better, happier, more joyful 593 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: country fifty years from now or less? So some people 594 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: say it will make it that way. I completely disagree. 595 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: I think the data is totally differ. 596 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 4: That was Charlie on the marijuana threat. We obviously want 597 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 4: to highlight that because he was a big fighter, even 598 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 4: when it was super unpopular. 599 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: With you. 600 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 4: He was always a warrior. He didn't care if he 601 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 4: took a bunch of hate for it. 602 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 3: Hi, folks, Andrew Colvett here, I'd like to tell you 603 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 3: about my friends over at why Refy. 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Just 620 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 3: go to yrefi dot com and tell them your friend 621 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 3: Andrews sent you. 622 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 4: We want to pivot into another topic because Sager is 623 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 4: very good on this one as well. The Epstein files 624 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 4: the infamous ones, but we wanted to have a specific cook. 625 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 4: There was an opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal 626 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 4: the other day by Barton Swain, and he argues the 627 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 4: Jeffrey Epstein files were supposed to uncover the financiers, sex 628 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 4: trafficking and blackmail operations. They haven't for the excellent reason 629 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 4: that there were no such operations. So we've had guests 630 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,719 Speaker 4: from both sides of the spectrum, Sager, some arguing. Actually 631 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 4: one argue the real villain in the story, he says, 632 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 4: is Virginia Guffrey herself. That she was a fabulous and 633 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 4: she kind of created the big conspiracy theories out of nothing, 634 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 4: and like Epstein, Sezy Epstein might be sleazy, he did 635 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 4: like underage girls, but that was the limit of what 636 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 4: is wrongdoing was Now. I know you are have generally 637 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 4: been a believer in we'll call it the big tent 638 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 4: Epstein theory that there is a lot that is still hidden, 639 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,479 Speaker 4: a lot to be found. So what are you currently 640 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 4: thinking with all the files that have been released? 641 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 12: I understand that argument. However, I often find that they're 642 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 12: arguing against a straw man, as if that was the 643 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 12: only claim. 644 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 11: Let's say in the Big ten community, let's say. 645 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 12: That if you were to widen your aperture that the 646 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 12: confirmation of the core claim, which was that Epstein was 647 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 12: obviously involved in a highly powerful network that involved governments 648 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 12: and intelligence agencies. That you really can't ignore all of 649 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 12: the evidence that we now have, not only from the files, 650 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 12: but from the previous release that would happen before, as 651 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 12: a lot of as well as a lot of the 652 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 12: information that was already in the open source environment. And 653 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 12: so one of the things I find very frustrating is 654 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 12: that yes, there became this kind of what I would 655 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 12: call like a low IQ conspiracy, a client list where 656 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 12: they would say blackmail tape, and then so he would 657 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 12: write exactly next to it what he blackmailed for. I'm sorry, 658 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 12: I mean, I think that's a very unsophisticated understanding of 659 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 12: how power influence and yes, in some cases blackmail works. 660 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 12: But it also ignores, frankly, the memo where Epstein memorialized 661 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 12: to himself some very salacious claims that were made against 662 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 12: Bill Gates and guys. I can tell you, having had 663 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 12: access to tens of thousands of Epstein's hacked emails that 664 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 12: I read through, I would venture to say I read 665 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 12: through every single one. He was very often in the 666 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 12: business of sending himself exactly these types of emails, memos, 667 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 12: and others to memorialize certain conversations, send them to lawyers, 668 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 12: and keep tabs on others. Individuals now smoking guns largely 669 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 12: do not exist. For people who are in law enforcement 670 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 12: will understand what I am saying. You have to be 671 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 12: able to connect the dots. And what we see is 672 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 12: not only all of the compromising photos that have been 673 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 12: released let's say, of Lord Mandelssin, of Prince Andrew, many 674 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 12: of these others rich and powerful people, but it really 675 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 12: belies the you know what I would say, the ignoring 676 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 12: by a lit lot of the people who don't want 677 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 12: to see a bigger network here of Epstein's work with 678 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 12: these intelligence agencies. And the reason why the intelligence agency 679 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 12: question is central and the most important is that his 680 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 12: usefulness to this very powerful network of government's intelligence agencies 681 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 12: all across the world, not just one single intelligence agency, 682 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 12: is what enabled him to get away with some of 683 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 12: his more salacious activities that everybody else likes to focus on. 684 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 3: Now, listen, I think I think the intelligence I tend 685 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 3: to be. I lean more on your side here because 686 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 3: the whole, his whole rise to power, his whole, how 687 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 3: rich he got the less Wexner connections, this revelation that 688 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 3: lex was has now been listed in the files as 689 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 3: a co conspirator. The question about when are we going 690 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 3: to see indictments? We're told actually yesterday by Chip Roy 691 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 3: that he asked Pam Bondi specifically if some of these 692 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 3: other investigations are ongoing, and can we expect some indictments. 693 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 3: Apparently yes is the answer that they're working on on 694 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 3: the Coke conspirators. But I tend to think that he 695 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 3: was connected to Intel, and I agree there's this, let 696 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,760 Speaker 3: I think a low IQ take on what that means. 697 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 3: It's like, here's your ten million dollars, now, you know, 698 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 3: send these arm shipments over here, and then we're gonna 699 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 3: like bury it over here. People think of it in 700 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 3: very black and white terms. He was very good at insinuating, 701 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 3: at at reminding people of what he knew. That he 702 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,720 Speaker 3: was keeping tabs on everything, and it's a soft power, 703 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 3: and you're right, it enabled him to get away with 704 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 3: this really gross lifestyle over the years. That was a 705 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 3: you know, people kind of turn the other other cheek 706 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,760 Speaker 3: to So I tend to think I tend to agree 707 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 3: that I think he was connected internationally I think he 708 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 3: had a power play, But I do tend to think 709 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 3: that the sex thing, which is what a lot of 710 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 3: people hang their hat on, is probably less salacious than 711 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 3: people want want to believe, because Virginia Guffrey was the 712 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,839 Speaker 3: one that recruited a lot of these young women, underage women, 713 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 3: and they would they were taught to tell tell, you know, 714 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 3: Jeffery Epstein, I'm eighteen and everything's fine, and put on 715 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 3: makeup and dress a certain way. 716 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 12: There's no question that Virginia Guffray had her own problems, Okay, 717 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 12: And I don't want to, you know, totally besmirch the 718 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 12: dead either. We shouldn't forget that she committed suicide and 719 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 12: she really was driven toward she had a tortureius life, Okay, 720 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 12: And we also saw a lot of images that showed 721 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 12: that she did certainly have, you know, a lot of 722 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 12: connections inside of Epstein's universe. But I want to come 723 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 12: back to what you said, and then let's also do 724 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 12: what investigators do. They rule out other possibilities. One of 725 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 12: the reasons why rich people said they associated with Epstein 726 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 12: was tax advice. Well, now we have access to millions 727 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 12: of his emails. There's no tax advice in there. Zero 728 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 12: Leon Black, the head of the Apollo Group who's worth 729 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,360 Speaker 12: nine billion dollars, said he paid him one hundred and 730 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 12: fifty million dollars for tax advice. Can't find a single 731 00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 12: email of any tax advice. The only advice that I 732 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 12: found is he found like a business insider article and 733 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 12: sent it to one of his accountants. Sorry, that doesn't 734 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 12: pass Mustard. Second, with Les Wexner, he was the greatest 735 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 12: financial mind I've ever seen. 736 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 11: As I said, I've read. 737 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 12: His unredacted emails which I had gained access to. There 738 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 12: is no sophisticated financial engineering going on. You can also 739 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 12: read Jason Leopold over at Bloomberg News. He read through it. 740 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 12: The only real thing that we can come away with 741 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 12: how he made his money is either blackmail and other 742 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 12: types of criminality. For example, what is UK politics exploding 743 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 12: over right now? Insider trading over being given the tit 744 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 12: heads up by Lord Mandelsson about an upcoming bailout. Similarly 745 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 12: trading information, let's say with Prince Andrew, who is the 746 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,760 Speaker 12: time was the UK trade advisor. That is the actual 747 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,359 Speaker 12: glimpse into how he made his money. But remember the 748 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 12: intelligence connection is important because it goes to the beginning. 749 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 11: This is a. 750 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 12: Person with a fake Austrian passport at the height of 751 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 12: the Cold War, long before he is a multi millionaire 752 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,839 Speaker 12: or even a billionaire. Vienna, by the way, was what 753 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 12: the capital of spies and the nexus of East and West. 754 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 12: This is a person in a relationship with the Kashoge family, 755 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:51,880 Speaker 12: with the Least family, who are at the heart and 756 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 12: center of Iran contra. This is a person who is 757 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 12: involved in hundred million dollars Ponzi schemes, in some cases 758 00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,839 Speaker 12: stealing some of the money from there, and an ex 759 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 12: expert in money laundering, moving money across the globe, which 760 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 12: is what enabled these arms deals with Israel with the 761 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 12: coat de noir, with Russia, with everything that is his expertise. 762 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 3: Blake, are you beginning to are you more convinced? That 763 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 3: was pretty compelling from Seger, all those connects, the early stuff. 764 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 4: So I think I've talked to you about this and 765 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 4: other venue Sager, But I always wonder there's a person 766 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 4: you might be familiar. I don't want to name him 767 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 4: right now, but I kind of just wonder if maybe 768 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 4: the skeleton key of Epstein is he's just a scammer, 769 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,480 Speaker 4: who's like almost a pathological like he's lying all of 770 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 4: the time, and so it would make sense for him 771 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 4: to like the answer to why he gets rich. New 772 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 4: York Times wrote about this a few months ago that 773 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 4: it seems the secret how he got riches he may 774 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,279 Speaker 4: have just kind of scammed people or robbed people. Well 775 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 4: he ran yeah like less Wester basically says, oh, he 776 00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 4: embezzled money like he impressed me and then he just 777 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 4: started stealing like crazy. And before you have the Internet, 778 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,879 Speaker 4: before you have as much financial sophistication as we have now, 779 00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 4: it was easier to get away with that reputation. More 780 00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 4: you might have more people who would say I got 781 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 4: scammed and I have to sort of just shrug and 782 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 4: go with it because otherwise I'm too humiliated to keep 783 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 4: my business going. And I wonder if that is sort 784 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 4: of the answer, And that could go to the Intel thing. 785 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 4: What if it's less that he was super plugged in 786 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 4: with Intel and more that he would let everyone believe 787 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 4: he was super plugged in with Intel, and he he 788 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 4: would feed this narrative like what if the answer is 789 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 4: just Epstein was really charismatic, really good at tricking and 790 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,280 Speaker 4: leading people along robbin Bill. Yeah, Ultimate Connord. 791 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 12: It would be possible if we didn't have evidence of 792 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,800 Speaker 12: him broker ing Israeli military sales. 793 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,399 Speaker 11: To Coote Devoir. That's another thing. 794 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,400 Speaker 12: Is not just kote of war to Mongolia making a 795 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 12: security agreement between those two countries. He's at the nexus 796 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 12: of an FSB agent who is a graduate, sorry at FSB, 797 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 12: graduate of the academy in Russia, who becomes the head 798 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 12: of a major economic development fund in Saint Petersburg, who 799 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,759 Speaker 12: he then later emails for help in getting rid of 800 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 12: a woman who is blackmailing who very rich people in 801 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 12: New York City incl sending her his address asking for help. 802 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 11: I mean, I'm sorry, Like this does not pass the muster. 803 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 12: Sorry if I shouldn't cot it curse, But you know, 804 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 12: it doesn't pass muster for this idea that he was 805 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 12: a scammer, because we have too much concrete evidence of 806 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 12: his actual dealings with all of these arms trafficking networks, 807 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 12: including with other intelligence agencies. Another very important email I 808 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 12: found in the files. This is a file where you 809 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 12: see an email exchange between Aud Barock, the former Prime 810 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 12: Minister of Israel, and Epstein. Aud is meeting with the 811 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 12: Katari investment fund right before Epstein says, by the way, 812 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 12: please remind them I don't work from Masad. Right with 813 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 12: a smiley face. 814 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 11: That's there. 815 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 12: Aud Barock says, you or I smiley and Epstein says both. 816 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,840 Speaker 12: And in these cases it's pretty clear that the Kataris 817 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 12: thought he did work for Masad. Now, maybe, like you 818 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 12: guys said, this is all part of an illusion, but 819 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 12: there is a bit of a joking nature between aud 820 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 12: Barock and his relationship here with Epstein. Aud Barock, by 821 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 12: the way, was also the warmer ahead of the military intelligence. 822 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 12: He helped Epstein, by the way, funded millions of dollars 823 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 12: into one of his defense technology startups, a Pallanteer esque 824 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 12: spywear type system, which we have long seen that we 825 00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 12: use private conduits people like Epstein to fund some of 826 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 12: these black activities that happen outside of the normal official 827 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 12: parameters of the CIA. By the way, you know, bringing 828 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,800 Speaker 12: it back to Iran contracts, maybe some of the audience 829 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 12: doesn't even know what I'm talking about. The reason why 830 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 12: Iran Contra was so significant is that it was the 831 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 12: CIA and the intelligence community that was doing what it 832 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,840 Speaker 12: had always done, except now we're in a post Church 833 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 12: Committee environment. So after the Church Committee, with real oversight 834 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 12: by the United States government in Congress, they can no 835 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 12: longer just you know, fund arms here, traffic some drugs there, 836 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,759 Speaker 12: send arms to overhear. What they have to do is 837 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 12: use these arms dealing sketchy conduits like Epstein, like Koshogi, 838 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 12: like we have Douglas Lee, so many others that we're 839 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 12: implicated in the scheme. 840 00:42:58,719 --> 00:42:59,720 Speaker 11: You need these. 841 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,400 Speaker 12: Individual The CIA cannot just open up a bank account 842 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 12: that says CIA down in Nicaragua. You need people who 843 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 12: are highly sophisticated money Launders. Jeffrey Epstein worked at bear 844 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 12: Stearns under Ace Greenberg, remember, with zero experience. After supposedly 845 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 12: meeting him while he was teaching his son at the 846 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 12: Dalton School in the nineteen seventies, CEO of bear Stearns 847 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 12: hires him, and he gets fired from bear Stearns allegedly 848 00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 12: because you know, dealing in some of these sketchy activities. 849 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 12: But it's not like he's cut out entirely. He goes 850 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 12: and he opens his own investment management fund, except there's 851 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,799 Speaker 12: no evidence of any real investments or anything made. In 852 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,880 Speaker 12: the nineteen eighties, he declares that he will only manage 853 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 12: the money if people worth over one billion dollars. 854 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:42,759 Speaker 11: Which is extraordinary. 855 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 12: There were like eleven people in the world who were 856 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 12: worth one billion dollars or so at that time. Nothing 857 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 12: passes the smell test in every single one of these cases, 858 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 12: and it all points to a very sophisticated what I 859 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,120 Speaker 12: think is a money laundering operation that at times intersected 860 00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 12: with the intelligence community the CIA. By the way of 861 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 12: the important things from the files is Epstein foyering the 862 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 12: CIA for any mention of himself in the year nineteen 863 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,240 Speaker 12: ninety nine so, and then again in the year twenty eleven. 864 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,799 Speaker 3: Well, so, I think that I think my conclusion here 865 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 3: is approximately this that when you are a business and 866 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,280 Speaker 3: you put out an RFP right for a request for proposal, 867 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,719 Speaker 3: and there's a couple of different people that could meet 868 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 3: your needs, and then they send you back what they 869 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 3: can do, and then you pick one. I think Epstein 870 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,279 Speaker 3: was just a gun for hire out there that if 871 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 3: you wanted to do something sketchy, maybe he could. He 872 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 3: could kind of facilitate it here, make it look kind 873 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 3: of up by the books or whatever, and that was 874 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,239 Speaker 3: about it. And he knew a lot of people, so 875 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,440 Speaker 3: he had a lot of connections. He was sort of 876 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:48,320 Speaker 3: a known commodity in this sort of CD underworld and that, 877 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 3: you know, but he kept an air of being a 878 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 3: legitimate financier. I think, you know, so what did he 879 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,759 Speaker 3: work for Masad? Sometimes? Did he work for the CIA? 880 00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 3: Sometimes like did he work for the Russians? Sometimes I 881 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 3: have one last question for Segar and then we've got 882 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 3: a probably like one minute. So at this hearing with 883 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,720 Speaker 3: Pam BONDI, you had all these victims stand up behind. 884 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:11,839 Speaker 3: But then I find out because I was looking at 885 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:17,440 Speaker 3: Michael Tracy's Twitter, they were all adults at the time 886 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:23,360 Speaker 3: when the you know, sexual activities happened. They were getting money, 887 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 3: some of them were getting cars, kickbacks, whatever, tuition. What 888 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,880 Speaker 3: how is this different than just prostitution, which would be 889 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:37,160 Speaker 3: sort of consensual. I'm confused there because victims, wouldn't you 890 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 3: think that they're underage or something? 891 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,880 Speaker 12: What's your take on that, well, Andrew, I would challenge 892 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,880 Speaker 12: you very hard on that. Mean I thought we were 893 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 12: here on a conservative show. I don't believe that there 894 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 12: is any such thing really as like consensual well or 895 00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:51,800 Speaker 12: not deeply exploitative. 896 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 3: Isn't any I think it's incredibly deeply exploited. If but 897 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 3: but again it gets to this point of I think 898 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,480 Speaker 3: I'm what I'm pushing back against is this idea that 899 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 3: there were like I think because the narrative is that 900 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,080 Speaker 3: there's all these underage girls that got you know, trapped 901 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 3: and drugged and done. 902 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:11,960 Speaker 4: To do things against sacrifice. 903 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, like and really it was basic prostitution, is what 904 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,799 Speaker 3: it seems like he would know it was. 905 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,279 Speaker 12: Basic prostitution in the cases that you're talking about. But 906 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,040 Speaker 12: remember even in the original indictment in which he ends 907 00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 12: up where he's charged that he does admit to a 908 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,759 Speaker 12: seventeen year old and a fourteen year old was also there. 909 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 12: It's all in the documents. You can go, yeah and 910 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,400 Speaker 12: reach other sat but I just yeah, no, no, no, I 911 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,600 Speaker 12: really just pushed back hard against this idea because like, 912 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,359 Speaker 12: flying women across the world to have sex with them 913 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,920 Speaker 12: is an express violation of the man at Oh and 914 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,319 Speaker 12: also I believe it conservatives we have to stand up 915 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 12: and be like absolutely not, like we protect women who 916 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,160 Speaker 12: are being deeply exploited in these Eastern European countries, sold 917 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,400 Speaker 12: false bills of goods, who are saying they're going to 918 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 12: some model being pressured on an island like you're saying 919 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,960 Speaker 12: in the nineteen nineties or in the two thousands, when 920 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 12: there's no internet or able to escape. So you know, 921 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 12: I'm look, I may be getting a bit prickly on this, 922 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 12: but you know, just because people are of age doesn't 923 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 12: mean that they're not being exploited. 924 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,000 Speaker 3: No, I don't, and that happens all across the count degree. 925 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 3: You're not getting prickly, No, I agree with that. When 926 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 3: I'm pushing it back against is this I think there's this. 927 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,279 Speaker 3: It's just a narrative around Epstein where it's just all 928 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 3: of these I think you just assume it's underage and 929 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,520 Speaker 3: they were all fourteen, and then you find out Virginia 930 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,920 Speaker 3: was recruiting them. Anyways, we gotta go, Sega. It's been 931 00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,560 Speaker 3: wonderful having you my friend. Thanks Blake for setting it up. 932 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,759 Speaker 3: Of course, we'll have you on chatting with you. 933 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,000 Speaker 4: For more on many of these stories and news you 934 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:40,960 Speaker 4: can trust, go to Charlie Kirk dot com.