WEBVTT - Kristi Noem Fired: Marlow and Emma-Jo Morris Instant Reaction 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.400 Today's show sponsored by Lear Capital, the precious metals leader 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:07.080 since nineteen ninety seven and only company I trust and 0:00:07.160 --> 0:00:11.680 recommend to my family, friends and viewers. Visit Lear Alex 0:00:12.000 --> 0:00:12.760 dot com. 0:00:13.400 --> 0:00:16.200 He's editor in chief of Breitbart newis and a New 0:00:16.280 --> 0:00:19.720 York Times best selling author, and on this podcast he 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:24.959 brings deep research, prescient analysis at world class guests. He's 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:29.880 Alex Marlow and this is the Alex Marlow Show. 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:33.360 All Right, Marlow and Morris Today, Emma Joe is here, 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:35.120 m Joe. There's a lot happening in the news. We also, 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:37.440 this is an emergency pod. We're going to be reacting 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:40.720 to Christy Nome who has fired been fired by the 0:00:40.720 --> 0:00:43.440 most famous firer on the planet, one that you might 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:46.760 have seen coming. Bud is Well, frankly a slight surprise 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:49.000 to me. Slight surprise. We'll break that down and get 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:51.559 your reaction. But Emma Joe, you look a little different today. 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:54.000 This is not your normal camera. What's going on? I 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:56.280 don't know if that's your art in the back. Also, 0:00:56.400 --> 0:01:01.200 there's like a LGBT looking yes, silhouette in the back 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:03.160 of your shot, Like, what's that about? 0:01:03.840 --> 0:01:05.080 Maybe that would make sense? 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:08.920 Yeah, a little bit that's not a good time. That's 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:10.680 not a good sign time. 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:11.119 I laugh. 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:14.920 I'm like Jake Tapper every time he decides there's an 0:01:14.920 --> 0:01:17.400 emergency and he has to go on like his selfie 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:20.200 camera and post to Twitter to give his thoughts. 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:20.039 But. 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:24.800 Answer and you are the guests I interrupt the most frequently. 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:28.720 It's I saw him do a car video in sweatpants 0:01:28.800 --> 0:01:30.600 or like a sweatshirt in the hoodie the other day, 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:32.720 and I was like, I was shocked, like how thirsty 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:35.000 use this guy? And it was a very good report actually, 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:38.200 and it was pretty accurate. But I just he's not 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:39.959 out there enough. He needs to be out there more. 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:42.560 He needs to do the two camera in the car. 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:44.080 But you know, I thought he was gonna pull out 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:46.040 some Dave's Hot chicken and do like a dunker and 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:48.320 then like take a bite of it. 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:52.280 And sometimes sometimes the TL is popping off. You're triggered. 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:54.960 You gotta just like throw up the selviie can. 0:01:54.840 --> 0:01:58.680 And like just like talk about it. But yeah, exactly, 0:01:58.720 --> 0:01:59.800 that's that's me right now. 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:01.880 I was just telling Alex like when I got on 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:04.880 the on the call, and I looked like this, and 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:07.840 so I'm in DC and that's why I have this 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:13.359 beautiful art behind me. It's it's not mine unfortunately in Washington, 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:17.400 and yeah, so I literally took the train to time 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:20.040 it to do the podcast with you, and I have 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:22.520 another podcast actually that I'm doing after and I'm like cool, 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:23.200 and I'll take. 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:27.200 The day in Washington and work get to Union station. 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:29.639 I'm like getting the uber coming to the hotel to 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:34.400 meet you. And my laptop's not my bag. I didn't 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:37.840 bring my laptop, so I have one. I have one 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:42.600 pregnancy symptom that's been like I haven't really had pregnancy symptoms. Frankly, 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:45.040 it's been amazing, Like I've just been kind of chilling. 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:49.600 My only symptom was quitting smoking. Except one other, which 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:51.720 was becoming completely. 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:53.840 Retarded, not joking. 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:58.080 Like it's noticeable for when I'm like hanging out and 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:00.760 just talking sometimes I lose my train thought or like 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:02.920 in a situation like this where you would imagine, like 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:06.600 person is going to work for the day, they bring 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:12.000 their computer, plan their whole day around working, just realize. 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:14.399 I wanted to get you some I wanted to give 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:19.600 you some solace because I had a I always forget 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:22.000 something leaving the house, and the people have told me, 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:25.040 I'm above average intelligence most of my life, but I usually, 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:26.880 now that I'm going to work for the first time 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:29.040 in fifteen years, to go in the studio, I always 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:33.880 forget something. And I did have a moment that was 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:36.440 I think it was last week where I left the 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:39.080 house and I had brought the dry cleaning that was 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:40.600 going to take to the dry cleaners, and I had 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:43.360 brought my coffee, and I'd brought my water bottle, and 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:46.200 I had my headphones on, my sunglasses, and I was thinking, Wow, 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:49.400 this is feeling very light and breezy today, and I 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:52.400 forgot one thing, which is my backpack which has my 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:54.960 laptop in it, which I need for to do the show. Yeah, 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:57.040 and I was halfway down the five Freeway. I'm like, oh, 0:03:57.160 --> 0:03:59.000 I guess I'll be doing the show from home today. 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:04.120 Turned around, surprised you pregnant? Yeah? 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:04.720 You know. 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:09.880 Tall Rico says that the the trans need abortions, which means, 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:12.080 I guess, man need abortions. I don't know, I mean 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:16.279 we can. Who knows this day and age, we'll do 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:16.599 the no. 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:19.320 Just like Jesus Christ. 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:24.200 Yeah, the the he is maybe he is the second Coming, 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:27.960 So give me your thoughts. On him, Emma, because this 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:29.640 is not going to be a revealed to some of 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:31.800 the audience, but some of you might not be aware 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:37.480 that you reside in the LGBT plus spectrum. I think 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:41.240 you can stop at the L is the what what 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:45.800 is this guy's deal with the trans and is the 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:48.000 it's like some sort of a fetish thing that he's 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:52.000 just obsessed with all of these putting trans above everyone else. 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:54.359 And I just don't have this guy ran that he's 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:57.320 convinced that we need to use the Bible to justify 0:04:57.400 --> 0:05:00.839 trans and abortions. And it's just blasphem me from my 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:02.560 vantage point, But you see the appeal. 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:06.480 Yes, No, No, I mean personally, I don't you know. 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:09.640 I think that there's some fellow travelers in my plus 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:13.359 community who for some reason, like I guess, feel bad, 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:16.320 feel bad about being a plus or something, or like 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:19.120 they have shame around being a plus or whatever, and 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:21.800 they need to find a way to like justify it 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:24.720 to themselves or make themselves feel. 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:27.719 Better, or attack others for not approving of them or valued. 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:29.720 I don't know. I don't have that psychology. 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:32.520 My psychology is like, tell me, you know, I'm not 0:05:32.560 --> 0:05:35.680 a Christian I'm Jewish, but like, tell me exactly what 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:39.440 the Bible is, you know, do not never twist God's word. 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:40.320 That's disgusting. 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:43.560 It is taken, really going to be that. I said 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:46.040 this on the show. Yeah, yeah, and. 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:48.039 I listened to that, and I agreed one hundred percent, 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:51.000 and I thought about my own you know, obviously, as 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:52.799 I'm listening to I'm thinking about what I think about 0:05:52.800 --> 0:05:55.400 what you're saying. And I have the exact same perspective, 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:59.960 which is I am much more comfortable in I'm positioning myself, 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:03.640 understanding myself in relation to God's word and to God, 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:06.520 and you know, working that out between me and God 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:11.080 in terms of what my limitations are versus trying to 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:13.480 lie to myself and lie to others about what God 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:20.240 clearly says. So I find it repulsive when activists, you know, 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:22.719 and I don't think this guy is a plus, but 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:26.880 he's just a freak when they try to try to 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:29.839 wrap themselves in God in the Bible and then say 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:32.560 things that we know aren't true. And it's like, that's 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:36.440 a deep sin, that's a problem, that's disgusting, and it's 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:39.360 it's disgusting to do it in the name of the pluses. 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:42.520 I'm sure that there are a lot of regular pluses 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:45.000 out there who are extremely offended by it, like I am. 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:48.279 So I don't know if you. You probably did not 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:50.320 hear the live radio show today, just based on your 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:55.400 age and demographic. But we're recording this between when my 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:57.720 radio show gets recorded when it comes out as podcast. 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:00.360 But I refer to ta Rico as a PLUS today, 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:02.440 and I think I cracked up the entire booth here 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:04.520 in LA that I think he is the plus. I 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:07.160 don't know if he's lergy, but he seems. 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:12.920 Like maybe that's what plus is. Jolvin, who you've. 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:14.720 Had on the show, is also a member of the 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:18.120 PLUS community, and we've spent some time talking about what 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:20.600 a plus might be because I'm an L and he's 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:24.360 a G. And that's kind of what we understand between 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:26.400 each other, is that is the L and the G 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:30.800 perhaps the B. And I know what a T is, 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:32.360 but I don't I don't connect. 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:36.040 With the t's, but I know what a T is. Obviously. No, 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:38.760 I have no idea what a plus is. I literally 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:39.680 have no idea. 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:43.120 And I wonder is a plus a straight person who 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:50.240 virtue signals with bride like the pride stuff is a 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:54.280 plus a straight person who twists the Bible inside out 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:57.760 to justify gay being gay. 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:01.440 Yeah, that's right, And that's where it's the usually something 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:08.200 very profound earlier, which is that you can't evangelize falsehoods 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:12.720 from the pulpit about the Bible to others. If you 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:14.720 want to work this stuff out in your personal life 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:18.520 on a personal basis on what you feel like, maybe 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:20.400 some sort of a gray area or maybe some sort 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:23.600 of point disagreement that you might have with scripture, then 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:25.480 you worked that out on your own. But don't just 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:29.360 flat out contradict, defy the Bible and actually gaslight people 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:31.760 and say, no, that's what it says. This actually the 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:35.440 story of Jesus's birth to a virgin in a manger 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:40.560 into abject poverty without even a room. The real story 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:43.200 there is about abortion. Like to say that, you're like, 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:45.160 come on, what are you talking about? Like it's the 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:47.880 how much you. 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:52.360 Yeah, yeah, I know, it's Yeah, it's extremely upsetting to hear. 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:55.720 It's extremely upsetting. I don't know, like I mean that 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:57.960 that's been And I've spoken to other pluses on the 0:08:58.040 --> 0:08:59.600 right about this stuff. 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:01.920 Obviously, it just comes up in conversation, you know. 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:07.880 Amongst yourselves, and and it's it's I think it's much more, Uh, 0:09:08.240 --> 0:09:09.079 you have much more. 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:11.880 Integrity to say unlimited. 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:16.480 You know, perhaps I have an affliction or whatever that 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:20.320 that put between you, know that that puts me further 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:25.560 away from let's say, like perfect observance. Then to say no, no, 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:28.800 I am observant, you're wrong, or this is what it 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:31.880 really means, or it's just why in sell people? Why 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:35.560 not just be respectful and then and then take, you know, 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:39.760 take your challenges with your spirituality and bring them between 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:40.400 you and God. 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:44.200 Imagine being a young woman just finding out that you're pregnant, 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:46.880 not knowing where to go or what to do, not 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:50.160 even knowing exactly what's going on in your body. Well, 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:52.760 the whole world tells her it's just a clump of cells. 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:55.440 You and I know the truth. We know it is 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:58.040 a baby. 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Call eight three three eight 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:42.360 five zero two two two nine or clicking the preborn 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:47.679 banner at Alexmarlow dot com today and that seems like 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:52.320 just a place from more humble and I this is 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:54.680 one thing that is noteworthy that if you're gonna be 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:58.640 someone who pontificates on religious issues, then it is important 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:02.480 to understand that it does put yourself forward in a 0:11:02.520 --> 0:11:07.400 way where it is it's very grandiose what he's trying 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:10.800 to do, this six year old little twerp that he's 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:13.720 going to, you know, tell all of us, we've all 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:17.120 interpreted the Bible completely wrong, our entire lives. And we 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:20.080 just heard of him thirty minutes ago. Because the Democrat 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:25.040 donors didn't like the incredible black woman that is Jasmine Crockett, 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:27.120 and that was the only reason why we're talking about 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:30.040 him at all. And then now he's he's just completely 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:32.960 re educating us on the Bible. So it's odd, But 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:36.160 do you feel like he was fully vetted? On today's show, 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:39.120 on the Live show and on the yesterday's Live show, 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:42.120 I went through some of his the most the craziest 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:43.920 stuff he said. So I encourage all of you to 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:45.719 catch up in those shows if you haven't heard it. 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:48.800 But it's really he seems to just hate white people. 0:11:48.880 --> 0:11:51.520 He loves abortions, loves trans doesn't seem to like women. 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:54.520 Did they vet him or is there something going on? 0:11:56.559 --> 0:12:00.439 No? I think he You know, I work with some 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:05.280 evangelical Christians and Protestants on my on my at the 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:08.520 consultancy at Beckingstone, and I was asking them a bit 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:10.640 about you know, obviously this is anecdotal, but we're just 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:13.240 hanging out and chatting, right and I was asking them like, 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:17.400 what is the appeal here exactly? And they were explaining 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:19.280 to me, some of the guys that I work with 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:21.880 that they think it's that he appeals to, which I 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:24.800 guess is a demographic that is present in Texas, you know, 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:34.360 ex evangelical or ex fundamentalist of younger people who are 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:37.520 progressive but have like a religious background and come from 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:41.520 a religious place. So there, so he's kind of standing 0:12:41.520 --> 0:12:46.680 at that intersection of like progressive, woke, and also religious, 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:48.199 and that's. 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:49.480 Apparently who he's appealing to. 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:53.240 I don't really know people in like, you know, in 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:57.040 that position, in that demographic, so I can't attest to 0:12:57.080 --> 0:12:59.640 this myself, but I could definitely see how that's. 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:02.679 A thing where you have people who do. 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:06.080 Connect with like religious culture and church culture, but are 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:09.000 like from like a different generation, and you know, like 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:12.400 are trying to be cool and perhaps a bit ashamed 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:15.880 of how rigid and harsh you know, their religion is 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:18.920 and want to just be like liberal. And I can 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:22.280 see how that exists, even if I don't like hang 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:24.959 out with those people myself, and I think that that's 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:30.280 obviously his cohort. The Democrats are really scrambling, and they're 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:32.680 working as hard as they can to try to find 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:38.440 somebody who is simultaneously palatable to two groups who hate 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:40.199 each other and oppose each other, or really they hate 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:43.439 and opposition comes from one side, which is progressives. Against 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:48.839 Christian people and they're trying to find some sort of 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:52.319 Frankenstegn And that's what this is, in my opinion. It's 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:55.560 trying to make progressives and palatable to Christians and vice versa. 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:58.960 And this is just not something. This is not work. 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:01.720 It for me to speak. I me have all Christians. 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:03.560 But I hope people see how insulting this all is. 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:06.240 It's just all all very deeply insulting. So all right, 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:10.480 we promised the audience Emma, we got a weigh in here. 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:13.600 So Christie nom has been fired as of moments before 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:16.520 the show. I'll tell you so, I spent some time 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:19.800 in Washington last week and I spent some time with 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:22.440 the President and this was a topic that her track 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:26.000 record and her presentation was rubbing certain people the wrong way. 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:28.880 And I'll though it was off record, but I don't 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:30.720 think you have a problem with me sharing this. So 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:33.640 I'm gonna have faith in myself here. But the President 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:35.640 was very complimentary of her energy and that she tries 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:38.360 to do stuff, tries to get stuff done, and he 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:40.400 thinks that you know, And I thought this was really 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:43.720 noteworthy from a leadership perspective, that you want people to 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:45.760 take initiative. And I know this because I run a 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:47.480 news room. There's a lot of people who were here 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:50.280 and it's virtual, so I'm not lording over everyone's shoulder. 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:53.000 It's the only reason you know, I have time to 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:55.720 record a podcast is because I have a reasonable faith 0:14:55.760 --> 0:14:58.000 that the people who are on watch right now are 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:00.200 trying to move and trying to get stuff done. And 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:04.480 that's that's something that is really important. It's in a 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:07.600 way the most important skill. But I guess it just 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:11.240 caught up or that she's had one scandal after the next, 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:14.000 and I want to know if you had any thoughts 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:16.040 what you think might be the most defensive. But she's 0:15:16.080 --> 0:15:18.240 gone as of about an hour ago when we're recording 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:19.200 your quick take. 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:25.240 Yeah, it just just you know, I I'm not I 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:28.760 don't wanna My take is you know, I come to 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:32.280 things often like just like I care about aesthetics, I 0:15:32.280 --> 0:15:34.440 care about aesthetics and I care about vibe, and that's 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:36.120 part of my job and something that I think about 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:36.520 a lot. 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:40.280 And this is not a role where like it's a 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:43.280 light vibe. This is actually a solemn role. You know, 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:45.240 we have a duty and a. 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:48.760 Mandate to secure the border and to deport illegal aliens 0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:53.760 and enforce their immigration law, which isn't always compassionate or whatever, 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:57.960 but it's matter of fact, and and it can be sad, 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:00.200 you know, And I think you know Tom Holmer and 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:02.880 often talks about how heavy and how sad and how 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:06.240 hard it can sometimes be to secure the border and 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:07.480 what that really takes and. 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:11.040 What it really entails. It's not it's not a light thing. 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:16.080 And she has the brand that I don't think her 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:19.000 her personal brand is a fit with the HS and 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:21.120 I never have and I've talked about this, I think 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:23.880 with you before. I've definitely said it publicly where I 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:25.160 feel like it's a little glib. 0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:30.960 It is the vanity feels a little too light. 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:32.280 You know. 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:33.480 This stuff isn't funny. 0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:36.000 And you know, we were talking about the last time 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:39.160 we were on about you know, the stuff cartels are 0:16:39.200 --> 0:16:42.080 doing that she's responsible for cleaning up and she's responsible 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:45.720 for maintaining security against and I don't want to see 0:16:45.720 --> 0:16:47.120 a cute outfit like I don't. 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:47.680 I don't like. 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:50.120 I don't like what she was doing. I didn't like 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:53.120 the approach, I didn't like the ascetic I didn't like 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:55.479 the whole presentation. 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:58.040 You know, I don't know her at all. I don't 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:01.000 know her at all, and I'm really sympathetic to what 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:04.080 Trump said exactly think that Trump said. And that's how 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:06.840 I've run the newsroom that I've run is that, you know, 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:09.680 my style is that I've got a dry sense of humor, 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:11.520 but I try to be a serious person for the 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:13.840 most part, and I try to be super high integrity 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:16.040 for the most part. I try to be yeller. But 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:18.680 you know, I've managed people who are not as high integrity, 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:24.360 who are more just I would say, demonstrative with their emotions, 0:17:24.359 --> 0:17:27.639 and people who employ all sorts of gnarly tools and 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:29.600 their toolkit that I would never use in a personal level, 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:32.320 and I've learned to love all of it for different scenarios. 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:33.720 Just you know, I don't go to the golf course 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:36.320 with fourteen drivers. I go with you fourteen different clubs. 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:39.159 And I've always liked that, and I thought that's what 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:42.080 Trump was doing here, and I kind of had faith 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:45.119 in it. But I don't know, maybe I missed on 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:47.680 this one because it's the I don't have any regrets 0:17:47.880 --> 0:17:51.320 or or as I like say, no regrets, because sometimes 0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:54.840 you get the no regirts tattoos out there is. Yeah, 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:59.200 I no regrets on this, but it is. I guess 0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:01.439 it is just not enough to have great vibes and 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:02.920 that applies to us too. 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:06.159 Yeah, of course, and listen, I'm sure she's great, Like 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:06.800 I would love to. 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:08.600 Have Tonore with her, hang with her or whatever, but 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:11.080 I don't know. 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:13.200 It was all just kind of too cute. And I 0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:15.240 hope that Mark Wayn Mullen has a different tone. 0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:15.480 Yeah. 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:17.000 I hope so too, so Mark Wayn mullins, And well, 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:19.320 we'll get to him. He's a huge fan favorite. So 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:22.720 we are definitely not going backwards with this, but I 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:26.159 feel like it's important that we play this clip. I 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:28.160 think this is what did know him in. And there's 0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:31.439 a number of controversies in particular just sort of the 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:35.480 optics of her getting glammed up and then trying to 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:38.480 have a very serious job and that was okay for me, 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:41.240 but it was not working for I think everyone within 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:44.680 the administration. And there was all sorts of different issues 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:49.040 in terms of in particular stemming from her rumored relationship 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:51.600 with Corey Lewandowski, who is a Trump campaign advisor in 0:18:51.640 --> 0:18:54.120 the first term. They're both married. I think they both 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:57.720 have lots of kids, and it was really sort of 0:18:57.720 --> 0:19:01.120 tabloid fodder, and it was it was an open secret, 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:04.000 which I don't know anything first or even secondhand about 0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:06.359 this stuff, but everyone assumed that was going on didn't 0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:09.920 look great. They of course worked together and this type 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:13.440 of stuff. I think Trump needs people to be careful 0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:16.720 and he doesn't need I think, moral purity from people, 0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:19.800 but I think he needs people to be more careful 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:23.800 and that I think the pr for the immigration enforcement 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:26.560 has been not good. I think that a lot of 0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:29.280 it's been effective, but a lot of it has been 0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:32.639 not good in terms of managing political expectations, which is 0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:35.320 a reality in that now we are in an election year. 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:38.720 So I think this was a big moment. John Kennedy, 0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:42.119 Senator Kennedy had a exchange with her a couple of 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:45.960 days ago as we're recording, where she was getting called 0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:49.080 out for something that is not easy to defend and 0:19:49.119 --> 0:19:51.080 she does not have a great defense. I think this 0:19:51.240 --> 0:19:54.200 is the moment that mark the end for Christy oum. 0:19:54.359 --> 0:19:56.399 Let's play this cuple He's Missy the. 0:19:56.440 --> 0:20:00.359 President improved ahead of time. You spending two one hundred 0:20:00.359 --> 0:20:04.600 and twenty million dollars running TV ads across the country 0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:06.760 in which you are featured prominently. 0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:09.919 Yes, sir, we went through the legal processes. Did it correct? 0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:17.600 Yes he did? Yes, Okay, okay, So legal or not? 0:20:17.600 --> 0:20:20.720 Not a great premise when we got massive affordability issues 0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:24.560 in a bloated budget. Two twenty million in TV ads 0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:27.879