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Speaker 1: He's editor in chief of breit Bart News and a

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Speaker 1: New York Times best selling author, and on this podcast

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Speaker 1: he brings deep research, prescient analysis at world class guests.

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Speaker 1: He's Alex Marlowe and this is the Alex marlow Show.

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Speaker 2: All right, Alex and Friends podcast. Emma Joe Morris is here,

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Speaker 2: and Emma Joe, i'd even ask your plugs. I want

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Speaker 2: to get into it, but I'll let you through out

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Speaker 2: your plugs here in a second, but best known, of

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Speaker 2: course we're working for me bright Bart News for many years,

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Speaker 2: but also the laptop from hell Scoops when she was

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Speaker 2: at the New York Post. And feel everybody know what

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Speaker 2: you're doing now, Emma.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm consulting now.

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Speaker 4: I took my knowledge that I gleaned from you and

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Speaker 4: I'm sharing it with people who have less access to

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Speaker 4: you about how to communicate with the right, which is

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Speaker 4: what I think your best talent is.

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Speaker 2: And I'll tell you, I'm guessing that the rates that

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Speaker 2: you can charge in that line of work are a little

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Speaker 2: better than what you know banner advertisements are going for

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Speaker 2: on a news website, So a little bit, a little

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Speaker 2: bit all right, So sof so, we were just catching

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Speaker 2: up right before we got on and you were sharing

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Speaker 2: with me that you are with child is the expression.

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Speaker 2: So congratulations, that's amazing, And so you can help me

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Speaker 2: on a couple of things that we've been discussing. But

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Speaker 2: first of all, did you feel at what point during

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Speaker 2: the pregnancy that the soul entered the fetis? Because this

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Speaker 2: has been in a high, high dispute, Like I always

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Speaker 2: thought that probably at conception is probably a good place

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Speaker 2: to look, But is it, like the has it entered yet,

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Speaker 2: like you're in I think in the second trimester, do

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Speaker 2: you know, is there a soul there or is it

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Speaker 2: still just a clump of flash?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well we were a clump of self.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we were just discussing this off camera, you know,

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Speaker 4: like there's debates in the Talmud about this, you know,

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Speaker 4: and and I think that I've figured it out, or

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Speaker 4: that we figured it out now in the current year,

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Speaker 4: which is when you post on your Instagram story the

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Speaker 4: photo of the ultrasound, the soul is imbued into the child.

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Speaker 3: So that's happened, so I can talk about it now.

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Speaker 2: So if you guys believe in life, you should go

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Speaker 2: to preborn dot com or preborn dot com slash more

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Speaker 2: low even better, and you should donate. And I run

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Speaker 2: this campaign for this incredible pro life group PEA.

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Speaker 3: That's I know about it.

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Speaker 2: That's version of my show. I'm a ninety seven percent

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Speaker 2: of my goal and someone's got to step up and

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Speaker 2: get me to one hundred percent. And it's I feel

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Speaker 2: like it's a success. It's a successful campaign, but I

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Speaker 2: would like to hit one hundred percent. And this is

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Speaker 2: this is real talk, ladies and gentlemen. If anyone's out

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Speaker 2: there and would like to make it so I get

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Speaker 2: to one hundred percent, that'd be very nice for me.

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Speaker 2: And because I'm I like to win, I'm competitive and

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Speaker 2: that would be a much clearer win. Ninety seven is

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Speaker 2: a win, but one hundred that's a real win when

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Speaker 4: If anyone knows that Alex, it's overachiever. But uh, you know,

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Speaker 4: it's funny that actually I never was. I mean, I

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Speaker 4: always thought abortion was disgusting and immoral. Yeah, clearly and obviously,

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Speaker 4: To try to kick the tires on my life, you

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Speaker 4: And anyway, part of the formalities of it was that

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Speaker 4: being in that position, Now, you know, I got this

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Speaker 4: but I'm like a big time like I love cigarettes.

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Speaker 4: And you know, the second I saw the two lines

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Speaker 4: amazing how how you just become connected like in this,

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Speaker 4: I mean, if there's one woman that gets saved from

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Speaker 2: It's these are all points of the audience has heard,

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Speaker 2: Thought about this. You know, this is part of how

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Speaker 2: It's really condescending to other people if you feel like

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Speaker 2: And you've had that, and you've had that experience now

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Speaker 3: No, totally, totally.

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Speaker 4: I think all the time, like, I don't know what

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Speaker 3: Yeah, are you a loser? Are you? Are you that

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Speaker 2: So it's the it's anyway. I just want people to

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Speaker 2: But the thing is, Emma, and this is initially why

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Speaker 2: guys have got quite the mayor, and he is somehow

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Speaker 2: gonna manifest out of thin air. Universal pre k for

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Speaker 2: and yet somehow the government school system, which has been

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Speaker 2: not not a huge success. You're gonna universal pre k.

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Speaker 3: You're about to find you.

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Speaker 4: Don't find like a fentanyl overdose for a baby of success.

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Speaker 3: Okay, my achiever Alex Marlowe.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I know, but I'm actually I'm actually pumped

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Speaker 4: because we're gonna have two under two and like, I'm

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Speaker 4: just gonna I'm just gonna register as a daycare.

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Speaker 3: It's like I'm gonna go full. I'm gonna go full.

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Speaker 4: Next time you see me, I'm gonna be wearing the

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Speaker 4: chrome glasses for twenty five hundred dollars at a press

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Speaker 4: conference that my apartment was just robbed. And that's why

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Speaker 4: I don't have any records of anything I'm doing. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: I know, as you were getting universal pre K, that

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Speaker 4: I wish somebody, you know, would ask Zorn about that,

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Speaker 3: you should.

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Speaker 4: It's gorgeous and it's marvelous actually, and it was done

435
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Speaker 4: completely privately, like you do not see the irony of that.

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Speaker 2: So the the governor hocal she gave her earlier in

437
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Speaker 2: the week. I did not catch it. The New York

438
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Speaker 2: Post reporting on it was are you sitting down? She

439
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Speaker 2: played it safe, So I'm stunned that the house cat

440
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Speaker 2: played it safe, but just trying to make it. She

441
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Speaker 2: did not suggest that they're flushed with cash and have

442
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Speaker 2: this great ability to pay for all this stuff, though

443
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Speaker 2: it seemed to be the main takeaway. She did not

444
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Speaker 2: instill any confidence that she was going to be able

445
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Speaker 2: to pay for this stuffcause she didn't have to raise taxes,

446
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Speaker 2: and that she's going to drive more people out, and

447
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Speaker 2: it's going to drive more wealthier people out.

448
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and even like the whole thing about like, oh,

449
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Speaker 4: I'm only taxing, only taxing the bonuses from Wall Street.

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Speaker 4: First of all, First of all, the guys on Wall

451
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Speaker 4: Street work like no drug seventeen hours a day at least,

452
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Speaker 4: especially the younger ones, and and bonuses are also given

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Speaker 4: out and supplementing the income of guys who are like

454
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Speaker 4: and women who are like twenty three years old, twenty

455
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Speaker 4: two years old analysts, and those are the people who

456
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Speaker 4: are really like Grinde because they're hoping obviously to move

457
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Speaker 4: up the ladder and make real money there.

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Speaker 3: And that's who you're that's who you're riding.

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Speaker 4: Though. It's not just like people close their eyes and

460
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Speaker 4: think of Jamie Diamond when they when they hear Wall

461
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Speaker 4: Street bonus. It's a very outdated. It's very outdated villain,

462
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Speaker 4: you know, like some of these people. I mean, I

463
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Speaker 4: have a friend whose son is there right now, and

464
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Speaker 4: he's literally a twenty three year old kid who just graduated,

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Speaker 4: and he's he's like.

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Speaker 2: No, But you remember that the whole logic of the

467
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Speaker 2: tax system, and this is where we need a hard

468
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Speaker 2: reset somehow. The whole logic of it is just maximizing

469
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Speaker 2: whatever revenue is. It's not there's no moral component. And

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Speaker 2: we need to start talking about taxes like it's a

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Speaker 2: moral issue, because if we talk about like it's a

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Speaker 2: moral issue, then when you think about people worked hard

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Speaker 2: for this money and they should have a writ to

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Speaker 2: it because they should have a right to want to

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Speaker 2: improve their lives and take care of debts and be

476
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Speaker 2: able to do what they can. But when the government says,

477
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Speaker 2: well we're just going to take as much as we

478
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Speaker 2: physically can from you at every corner that's not appropriate

479
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Speaker 2: and it's gotten us into i think a big mess

480
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Speaker 2: where we feel like they're just unlimited resources available to us.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's it, and it'd be one thing about it

482
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Speaker 4: is like walking out of my apartment, you know, in

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Speaker 4: bedsty and walking into the garden of Eden.

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Speaker 3: Yes, but it's just not It's just not the case.

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Speaker 4: And not only that, but or getting like these uniorals

486
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Speaker 4: are talking, let's say, like we're getting these beautiful facilities

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Speaker 4: to take cares or whatever. And you know, you have

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Speaker 4: a lot of people who work in corporate in New

489
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Speaker 4: York who it's really important to them to not be

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Speaker 4: home with the kids, and it is it's more important

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Speaker 4: for them to do their career. Okay, okay, but you know,

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Speaker 4: if we're taking as like, there's one thing that New

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Speaker 4: York has done that would probably be the closest model

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Speaker 4: to this, which is the home the home care for

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Speaker 4: the elderly.

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Speaker 3: There's a program in New York.

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Speaker 4: Where are they Basically it's it's the exact same thing

498
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Speaker 4: they're doing, the exact same thing.

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Speaker 3: They're modeling it off of that.

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Speaker 4: It seems they didn't say that because it's such a

501
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Speaker 4: horrific failure.

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Speaker 3: But that's obviously what it is.

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Speaker 4: They're modeling this childcare of grant or whatever subsidy off

504
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Speaker 4: of their home care for the elderly subsidy. And that

505
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Speaker 4: is the most Again, the Post reporting this, the fraud

506
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Speaker 4: on that is ten times you're seeing in Minnesota, it's

507
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Speaker 4: ten to it's every single person in New York is

508
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Speaker 4: just claiming to be taking care of their mom. There

509
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Speaker 4: was one story in particular the Post reporter just last

510
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Speaker 4: week where the mother is in Bangladesh. She's literally not

511
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Speaker 4: even within three thousand miles of her house.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean that's an easy mistake to make. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's the Bangladesh. This reminds you lot of some areas

514
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Speaker 2: of New York these days. So it's just you know,

515
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Speaker 2: it's it's been more sympathetic.

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Speaker 3: She was confirm with Queens.

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Speaker 2: But this is what's so interesting is that people are

518
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Speaker 2: going to flee and then there's no political consequences and

519
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 2: there's no real Republican party, as we talked about many

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Speaker 2: times both together.

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Speaker 4: And oh right, well yeah, sorry, That's what I was

522
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Speaker 4: gonna say about the Walls Rey thing, which is that

523
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Speaker 4: it's not the eighties anymore, where you can't do finance

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Speaker 4: outside of New York. It's not And that's and that's

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Speaker 4: I think the big threat for Kapy Hoagland, why she's

526
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Speaker 4: a scared animal or a house cat, is because you

527
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Speaker 4: can go down to Miami and do finance. There's there's

528
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Speaker 4: spaces in Texas to do finances. Like you don't have

529
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Speaker 4: to live downtown in order to be somebody, whereas it

530
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Speaker 4: used to be that you have no choice. You know,

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Speaker 4: you kind of have to put up with the Democrat

532
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Speaker 4: nonsense in New York if you want to matter. That

533
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Speaker 4: is not the case anymore, at least not in the industry,

534
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Speaker 4: is that you want.

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Speaker 2: It's so interesting though, that the constituents don't demand any better.

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Speaker 2: And I go through the same stuff out here in California,

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Speaker 2: and I'll tell you, as I came in to do

538
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Speaker 2: radio today, it took me an hour and twenty minutes

539
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Speaker 2: to do a drive that's you know, should be thirty

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Speaker 2: five minutes with no traffic. I mean, even a reasonable

541
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Speaker 2: level of traffic should be forty five fifty minutes, and

542
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Speaker 2: it take me an hour and twenty minutes. It sucks

543
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Speaker 2: the life out of you. And you start doing these

544
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Speaker 2: things when you're in that process, particularly when you have

545
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Speaker 2: a hard start, like I can't roll in a nine

546
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Speaker 2: to fifteen for a nine o'clock show, like it doesn't,

547
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Speaker 2: it doesn't doesn't work that way. I have an empty

548
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Speaker 2: chair even if I could call in do the audio,

549
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Speaker 2: but then the video would just be like the empty

550
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Speaker 2: chair that I'm sitting in. So you can't do that stuff,

551
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Speaker 2: and you start thinking, well, maybe I should move closer

552
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Speaker 2: to the studio. And I was saying, well, if I'm

553
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Speaker 2: gonna move, and maybe we should try to leave California

554
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Speaker 2: and not pay you know, nine ten to eleven percent

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Speaker 2: in stay taxes every year. That so maybe I should

556
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Speaker 2: just do that. And then I think, well no, because

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Speaker 2: I kind of like my neighborhood. But the main thing

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Speaker 2: is I have a usable school system, so I don't

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Speaker 2: have the prospect of having to pay for school because

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Speaker 2: I'm just north of LA and for whatever reason, people

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Speaker 2: of their act together on the schools that are walkable

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Speaker 2: from my house. And I'll tell you that is a

563
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Speaker 2: really narrow margin because if for whatever reason that we

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Speaker 2: couldn't go to the school that we go to, like

565
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Speaker 2: we're out and it's just like one of those things

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Speaker 2: where they really play with fire. It's people aren't having

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Speaker 2: these conversations in Florida and in Tennessee and in places

568
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Speaker 2: like that. They're thinking, now you're putting out roots, You're

569
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Speaker 2: gonna be here forever. And it's just if you're in

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Speaker 2: New York and New Jersey or La or California in general,

571
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Speaker 2: everyone's thinking about leaving. And you saw all these billionaires

572
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Speaker 2: committed Democrat voters are all leaving California because there's a

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Speaker 2: small threat that they're going to do some sort of

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Speaker 2: big wealth confiscation. Are even talking about.

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Speaker 3: That they're going to leave.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, to be fair, unrealized gains is a

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Speaker 4: pretty scary hypothetical.

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Speaker 3: Totally, which is what you're talking about in California.

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Speaker 4: I understand like cutting your losses as that conversation is beginning,

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Speaker 4: and not after it's already been closed.

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Speaker 3: But you know, yeah, I mean I one hundred percent.

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Speaker 4: And you know, this seems like this vicious cycle in

583
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Speaker 4: New York because as life gets more expensive and it

584
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Speaker 4: is untenable, that is why Zoron is elected. It's untenable.

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Speaker 4: It's a ridiculous situation in New York. And and as

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Speaker 4: that happens, I think you get people more and more

587
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Speaker 4: unwilling to get serious with their life because they can't

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Speaker 4: afford it.

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Speaker 3: And you see stories like this all the time.

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Speaker 4: I just saw a story yesterday where basically gen Z

591
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Speaker 4: is like refusing to work because they don't get paid

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Speaker 4: enough to really live.

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Speaker 3: So what's the point They're like pretend working.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, which is immediately if you I mean of advancing

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Speaker 2: in your life. I mean it's a twenty four to

596
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Speaker 2: seven grind to feel like you were going to advance

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Speaker 2: these days.

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Speaker 3: Well that's it, it's it. So they just don't. So

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Speaker 3: that's it.

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Speaker 4: So they're not working that hard because they don't believe

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Speaker 4: that the compensation is really there, which I guess I understand.

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's a reason money is the big motivator

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Speaker 4: to work. If you don't feel the money, then you

604
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 4: don't really work. But then you know, their second order

605
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Speaker 4: effects to that, you never own anything, you never have kids.

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Speaker 3: You know, most people aren't like you and me, where.

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Speaker 4: Just like whatever, we'll figure it out and just start

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Speaker 4: having Like that's not typically the mentality, especially if somebody

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Speaker 4: has you know, extreme economic and financial anxiety. I thank god,

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Speaker 4: I don't, you know, So it's kind of a different feeling.

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Speaker 4: They so, but that's it. It's they live in this

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Speaker 4: perpetual they live in this perpetual extended adolescence. And I

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Speaker 4: think that, you know, it's the same thing, like I

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Speaker 4: don't know if you saw this video of Renee Good's

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Speaker 4: wife where right.

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Speaker 3: It's a newer video.

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Speaker 4: Right after she gets killed, the wife starts screaming, why

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Speaker 4: are you using real bullets?

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Speaker 3: And I thought that was so fascinating. It's like, whoa,

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Speaker 3: this is all relation for you? Nothing is real And

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Speaker 3: the same thing.

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Speaker 4: I think you're seeing that trend among these people who

623
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Speaker 4: are living in cities where it's like nothing is real,

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Speaker 4: Like it's like almost like they live as.

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Speaker 3: An avatar in their own life.

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Speaker 4: And I think that that's what perpetuates these really stupid policies.

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Speaker 4: It's this this some lack of seriousness and a lack

628
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Speaker 4: of reality or concept of reality that's becoming more and

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Speaker 4: more pervasive.

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Speaker 3: And I think it gets perpetuated by.

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Speaker 4: Not having anything grounding in your life, like something you

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Speaker 4: own and children.

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Speaker 2: Emma, you're also one of my unofficial correspondents for the

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Speaker 2: tribe and that is the chosen people of God. And

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Speaker 2: I want to give you to comment on something, but

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Speaker 2: the particularly after the Bondi Beach massacre, which again was

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Speaker 2: a festival from Biblical times, one that Jesus himself celebrated Hanukkah,

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Speaker 2: which is so important. We talked about being judea Christian nation,

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Speaker 2: United State of America. Jesus was a Jew. This so important.

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Speaker 2: Jesus was a Old Testament guy who didn't read the

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Speaker 2: New Testament. You guys know this so but there was

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Speaker 2: darkness there, violence, fear, hatred, all for the Jewish people.

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Speaker 2: And it is at a time of prayer and rejoicing.

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Speaker 2: We're up against a real enemy here in the West.

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Speaker 2: Times like this reminds us that the ceasefire at Israel,

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Speaker 2: things like this, these victories that happen not to be

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Speaker 2: taken lightly. Jewish people are being targeted around the world

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Speaker 2: simply for their faith. And that's why your National Fellowship

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Speaker 2: of Christians and Jews is important. They stand in the gap.

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Speaker 2: They provide safety and security for God's chosen people. Fellowship

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Speaker 2: brings together Christians like me and Jews like my friend Emma,

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Speaker 2: to the light, to be a bright light and stand

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Speaker 2: against the suffering of Jews in Israel, Soviet Union, wherever

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Speaker 2: it may be former Soviet Union. You know, you know

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Speaker 2: I wanted to talk to you about the rise of

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Speaker 2: anti Semitism on the online right, and I feel like

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Speaker 2: it's flaming out already, and I feel like the particularly

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Speaker 2: with President Trump, empower someone who's been very good to Israel,

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Speaker 2: very good to the Jews in general, has a Jewish

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Speaker 2: daughter and a Jewish grandchildren, and it feels like there

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Speaker 2: was a big miscalculation that there was a bigger appetite

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Speaker 2: for anti Semitism that was being castro of online and

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Speaker 2: I feel like it flopped in a way. So but

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Speaker 2: maybe I'm wrong, and I don't want to declar victory

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Speaker 2: too early, but I just want to get your thoughts

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Speaker 2: on it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's thank you. It's an interesting question.

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Speaker 4: And I find that my perspective on this is kind

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Speaker 4: of funny because I am Jewish as you, as you

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Speaker 4: mentioned in your ad. But I and I've meditated a

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Speaker 4: lot on what my Judaism means in terms of my

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Speaker 4: identity and my assimilation and my Americanism because it's come

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Speaker 4: up and it's kind of been forced to conversation post

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Speaker 4: October seventh, I guess, and I've fallen into the conclusion

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Speaker 4: that basically, you know, it seems like more of a

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Speaker 4: personal thing than something that is my personality or my identity, right,

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Speaker 4: you know, in a public way. So I feel like

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Speaker 4: I'm able to actually kind of separate from this more

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Speaker 4: than other people maybe are who are Jewish and see

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Speaker 4: it kind of as a more prominent aspect of their life,

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Speaker 4: their public life, or their political life.

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Speaker 3: And what I've noticed is.

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Speaker 4: The pro Israel, so the anti Israel side has has

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Speaker 4: fallen into, maybe accidentally or maybe inevitably into this like

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Speaker 4: third world coded, third World coded and anti American coded politics.

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Speaker 4: So it's like, somehow, I haven't really seen anybody who

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Speaker 4: has been able to stop themselves from going there naturally

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Speaker 4: when they've entered the anti Israel and anti Zionist political

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Speaker 4: position that said, which obviously is a huge turn off.

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Speaker 4: You know, once once people start taking the Palestine side,

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Speaker 4: they also somehow inevitably start to fending Maduro and Mullows.

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Speaker 4: And then though at the same time, every time you're

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Speaker 4: gaining cultural ground if you're if you're a Zionist, because

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Speaker 4: of those missteps, cultural missteps, tone missteps, social missteps, you're

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Speaker 4: you inevitably get Jonathan Green Black piping in or Shavist

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Speaker 4: Custenbaum piping in trying to get people deep platformed or

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Speaker 4: arrested for like anti Semitism.

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Speaker 2: That's a shame I got talking about that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I saw this thing the Jerusalem Post is hosting,

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Speaker 4: like this cringe convention or something that's been going on.

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Speaker 4: It seems like endlessly it's been I've been seeing these

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Speaker 4: clips going on for weeks.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, when does this conference end.

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Speaker 4: As a Zionist myself, I'm like, please please end the conference,

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Speaker 4: because it seems like we can't go, you know, we

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Speaker 4: can't let It's like I wish that the Zionist side,

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Speaker 4: which again I am a member of, I wish that

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Speaker 4: the Zionis I would take a moment to allow the

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Speaker 4: anti Zionists to expose themselves as Third worldists.

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Speaker 3: And leave them to do that, as opposed to.

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Speaker 4: While they're doing that, then calling for like some sort

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Speaker 4: of censorship or you know, anti accusing everybody of being

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Speaker 4: anti Semitic or whatever. I just so I'm watching both

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Speaker 4: sides basically become more and more unconvincing. Yeah, and it's

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Speaker 4: frustrated because but you know, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 4: something that really gives me as a Zionist, you know,

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Speaker 4: I was I was sold a certain bill of goods

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Speaker 4: as a Zionist growing up, and I went to Jewish

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Speaker 4: school as for elementary school, and that was where my

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Speaker 4: Zionism was originally inculcated, obviously, and my love for Israel.

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Speaker 4: And I was told that there's a place on earth

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Speaker 4: that is a refuge for Jews, that you know, allows

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Speaker 4: Jews political self determination and security, and that was the

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Speaker 4: whole reason of being for Zionism, and that was something

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Speaker 4: that was undeniable, Like, of course you agree with that,

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Speaker 4: if you with Jewish survival, you agree with that.

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Speaker 3: And uh.

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Speaker 4: And what I've found post October seventh and watching this

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Speaker 4: was Wow, Israel is does really rely on the US

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Speaker 4: for a lot, doesn't it. And it relies on the

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Speaker 4: US so much that it maybe even makes military and

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Speaker 4: security decisions based on what the US wants of it.

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Speaker 4: And I found that really disturbing because it's like, well,

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Speaker 4: that's not sovereignty. That is relying on somebody else to

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Speaker 4: the extent that you can't make free choices.

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Speaker 3: And that really worried me.

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Speaker 4: But but after all of this, after this this two

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Speaker 4: year saga and this two year pain, I think for

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Speaker 4: everybody who cares about Israel and and who's Jewish or

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Speaker 4: not Jewish, who cares about, you know, just just the West,

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Speaker 4: it's been very painful to watch and and you you

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Speaker 4: come away with that though, like like BB finally, finally

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Speaker 4: it came out and said, you know, okay, we're gonna

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Speaker 4: we're gonna start winding down reliance on international aid. We're

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Speaker 4: gonna start winding down reliance on American aid and be

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Speaker 4: able to make our own bullets finally, which is outrageous

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Speaker 4: that they weren't able to do in the first place,

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Speaker 4: make our own bombs finally. And Trump has shown to

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Speaker 4: not be very happy with that. But I think that

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Speaker 4: that is the political solution for everything that everybody is

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Speaker 4: debating on the tl is Israel needs to be truly independent,

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Speaker 4: not a client state it's in.

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Speaker 2: And I get that, and I feel like we need

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Speaker 2: to get our money's worth when we're given out aid,

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Speaker 2: and there's really no accountability for that. It just seems

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Speaker 2: like we just give it that. There needs to be

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Speaker 2: The American people need to understand, at least roughly, we

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Speaker 2: can't give away all the intelligence forgetting, but it's we

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Speaker 2: need to roughly. No one ever calibrates for the American people. Hey,

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Speaker 2: here's why we're sending aid to these strange, far flung places.

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Speaker 2: And there's generally speaking a decent reason. But people are

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Speaker 2: getting less and less tolerant of that because they see

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Speaker 2: how much waste we have, how much debt we have,

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Speaker 2: and where the government spends its money. We spend our

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Speaker 2: money on leering centers and little Mogadishuo min so, and

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Speaker 2: it's like, well, then, how do we know the stuff

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Speaker 2: that's going overseas is actually going in efficient way? That's

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Speaker 2: totally reasonable for people to feel that way, and so

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Speaker 2: we should do it.

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Speaker 4: Of course, it's anti Semitic, and by the way, I

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Speaker 4: think that there are huge benefits to like there's huge

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Speaker 4: ROI on the money that is sent to Israel. Israel

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Speaker 4: is not a random tin pot like sketchy country, like

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Speaker 4: it's a it's one of the like I mean, the

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Speaker 4: investment pouring into Israel for its tech is insane, and

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Speaker 4: the things that Israel invents and does is crazy in

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Speaker 4: the military space and outside of the military space. It's

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Speaker 4: just like their development and their R and D is

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Speaker 4: like unlike anything. I mean, it's a country full of

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Speaker 4: ashcan As Jews. You can't really expect anything less, and

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Speaker 4: there's definitely major benefits to giving them money and giving

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Speaker 4: them AID. I don't think it's a one way relationship

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Speaker 4: in the way that USA it has been in other countries,

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Speaker 4: but that case is never made.

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Speaker 3: It's only just your in a semite if you bring

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Speaker 3: it up, which is so wrong.

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Speaker 4: And I think that that's part of the reason why

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Speaker 4: that offensiveness is part of the reason why we're in

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Speaker 4: this position. I think there's a few things that probably

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Speaker 4: let us here, but you know, I think that the

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Speaker 4: solution now is to just decouple and have a relationship

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Speaker 4: like normal.

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Speaker 3: Coach.

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Speaker 2: I feel like the fact that Israel provides so much

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Speaker 2: good intelligence is really is really valuable, but again it's

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Speaker 2: not illustrated to the public. And I do feel like

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Speaker 2: overall the case for Israel was not made, has not

805
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Speaker 2: been made very effectively by a lot of people from

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Speaker 2: the Israel government and even in the right wing commentariat space.

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Speaker 2: And this was Charlie Kirk's real criticism of Israel. Lifeboke

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Speaker 2: Charlie about Israel over and over again. He always was

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Speaker 2: a pro Israel person. The evidence is overwhelming on that,

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Speaker 2: but he was getting increasingly frustrated that he kept getting

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Speaker 2: grilled about Israel when he go on campuses, and he said, like,

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Speaker 2: why am I doing this? I didn't, This isn't What

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Speaker 2: got me out of bed today was to make the

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Speaker 2: case for Israel and campuses and then why do I

815
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Speaker 2: have to do this every day? And you guys get

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Speaker 2: a step up? And I always thought that was all

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Speaker 2: go A good A good point by him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, exactly, and with no help. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 4: there's a lot, there's a lot. I don't know what's

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Speaker 4: going on there, but anyway, it shouldn't matter because there

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Speaker 4: there shouldn't need to be an all hands on deck

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Speaker 4: pr arbery. It's like that, just just being an independent country,

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Speaker 4: and it matters.

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Speaker 2: Look, he chried me in on a couple of quick pots. Sorry,

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Speaker 2: but first of all, I'm trying to figure out where

826
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Speaker 2: Shabus called for any deplatforming, and you're gonna have to

827
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Speaker 2: supply the evidence here, Emma, I'm not seeing exactly, but

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Speaker 2: I will report back to the audience. Because we like Shabas.

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Speaker 2: I like his arguments, but he's a young guy. Maybe

830
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Speaker 2: went too far once or twice, I don't know, but

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Speaker 2: you got to give me the receipts on that. I'm

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Speaker 2: not doubting you. I'm just saying that I gotta I

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Speaker 2: gotta be fair to shove us here because he's a friend.

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Speaker 2: And then the next thing I want to point out

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Speaker 2: is your point about giving the anti Semitic side.

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Speaker 3: I have it ranked here. Granted, this is this sources.

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Speaker 4: I don't think very generous, you know, probably not being

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Speaker 4: super general, but that is that Shavis Kessenbaum on the

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Speaker 4: best way to fight anti Semitism Send their ass to jail.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what I'm allowed on this show. Send

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Speaker 4: their ass to jail. It's not complicated. I don't care

842
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 4: if people think we control the banks. I don't care

843
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Speaker 4: if people of things that we.

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Speaker 2: Want directly to just jailing antisemites flat out.

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Speaker 4: No, he's saying, if they if they violate the law,

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Speaker 4: which again I don't know what he's referring to.

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Speaker 3: Who violated the law.

848
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Speaker 4: Anytime, I'm done, he violates the law, or students for

849
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Speaker 4: Justice in Palestine violate the law. Stops sending them to

850
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Speaker 4: Holocaust museums, stop sending them to ADL dinners, send them

851
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Speaker 4: to jail instead, maybe talk about rioters. Send rioters to jail.

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Speaker 4: That's probably a generous interpretation of the of the Well, it.

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Speaker 2: Sounds like they're throwing rockeous synagogues was what he was

854
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Speaker 2: responding to in particular. So again, look, look it's the

855
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Speaker 2: we're trying to do our homework here, trying to do

856
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Speaker 2: our homework, So it's a if you're throwing rocket to synagogues,

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Speaker 2: then it's violence. So I'm cool that here. Here's my

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Speaker 2: overall point, though, Emma, I think this is the brid

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Speaker 2: the broader point we're trying to make that I totally

860
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Speaker 2: agree with you on that. The I was happily allowing

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Speaker 2: all the anti Semitic moment that was taking place in

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Speaker 2: the online right play out. I wasn't happy to see

863
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Speaker 2: it but I was observing it without trying to do

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Speaker 2: daily commentary on it, because then Shapiro's analysis of Candice

865
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Speaker 2: Owens was not more persuasive that I should disavow or

866
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 2: hate Candice Owens than just letting Candice Owens talk and

867
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 2: me seeing the clips of Candae Owens and and now

868
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 2: Candace Owners and now she's out there seeing Charlie Kirk

869
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 2: is a time traveler. It was just a matter of

870
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 2: time that she was. She was going through a public

871
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 2: mental breakdown and allowing it to play.

872
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, getting signs and a dream wasn't less compelling than

873
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 4: he's a time traveler, because I think the dream.

874
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 2: Thing that was a couple of work that was pretty recent. No,

875
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 2: she doing performance art, and that was so clear. But

876
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:03,919
Speaker 2: for me to go and you know, make a big

877
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 2: lecture and take a big grand stand, like is it

878
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 2: she's obviously doing performance art. It's a farther than Alex

879
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 2: Jones ever went, and that's what she's doing, and they

880
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 2: should be trating. People have to draw that conclusion on

881
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 2: their own though. They got to figure it out. And

882
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 2: then when you see people like you know, Megan Kelly

883
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 2: was out there saying she's an open heart to maybe

884
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: Israel was involved in U the murder of Charlie. And

885
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 2: I don't honestly believe Megan thinks that. I really don't.

886
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 2: I don't know why she said it, but uh, that's

887
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 2: okay with me, Like, let let her put that out there,

888
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 2: and then those of you who are looking where to

889
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 2: get your news, well, maybe I pick up a couple

890
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,240
Speaker 2: of readers or listeners extra from that when people like, huh,

891
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 2: that's interesting, and then maybe they were reminded, well, you know,

892
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 2: she did try to take out Trump with the Rose

893
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 2: O'Donnell stuff in twenty sixteen, and then you know, she's

894
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 2: very good at what she does, but maybe she's not

895
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 2: my go to anymore. And so I was very happy

896
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 2: to let all that play out. And it's interesting because

897
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 2: a lot of people who were first and loudest to

898
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 2: just condemn, condemn, condemn. I don't know if that helped

899
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 2: the cause of the Jews.

900
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:13,919
Speaker 4: Exactly one hundred percent agree with you. It's like that's

901
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 4: what I was saying at the beginning. It's like I

902
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 4: wish that everybody would just hang back and let kind

903
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 4: of Owens talk about time travel and dreams while she's

904
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 4: criticizing Israel.

905
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 3: It's like, this person isn't a serious person.

906
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's performance hard or if that's

907
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 4: her opinion and her sense of reality, but either way,

908
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 4: I mean she's saying it with one hundred percent straight face.

909
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 4: And that's the same person that's coming out with the

910
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 4: with the Middle East commentary.

911
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:38,399
Speaker 3: So I love it.

912
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 4: I want them to I want them to continue. I mean,

913
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 4: all of these people are going around, you know, and

914
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 4: and the thing is too like it's a it's a

915
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 4: holistic picture of the commentary that they're giving, you know.

916
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 4: It's like also like these once you get into that,

917
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 4: you get into the defending somehow Maduro, you somehow get

918
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 4: into defending Renee Good. It's off been a type that

919
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 4: you kind of turn into and it's and and and

920
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 4: it's and then it's tied together with your aunt to Zionism,

921
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 4: and they discredit themselves.

922
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 3: There's absolutely nothing to say.

923
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 4: I mean, I have kind of sillens she's so I

924
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,760
Speaker 4: don't even acknowledge and I haven't acknowledged her for almost

925
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 4: a year from when this all started more because I'm like,

926
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 4: there's no oxygen to give this.

927
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, just let her go. Just let her go.

928
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 2: Off exactly, and everyone's compelled to comment on Nick Fuentes

929
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 2: all the time, and just it's the if you watch

930
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 2: him his stuff, he's a kind of a comedian and

931
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 2: he has very compelling delivery, but is the same guy

932
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 2: who lavishes praise on Stalin and Hitler and also wants

933
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 2: America to do no interventionism. It's like, okay, so he's

934
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 2: completely incoherent, and so like how much time he's not serious?

935
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,439
Speaker 2: Like we don't have to act like he's serious. He's

936
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 2: an entertaining online provocateur who's got a great delivery, and

937
00:45:55,840 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 2: it's the who is voices viciously anti Semitic stuff, which

938
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 2: is obviously Strike one. But then when you start piecing

939
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 2: things together, like this is not a Cohmone ideology, there's

940
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 2: nothing pure here, and then we just move on. We

941
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 2: have to spend so much time on it, and yet

942
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 2: I felt like we did weeks and weeks and weeks

943
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 2: to NonStop this conversation.

944
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's it's just like so so ignorant of

945
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 4: like basic, basic, basic human nature. It's like if somebody

946
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 4: tells you you can't look at this, you can't watch this,

947
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 4: you can't this person is unacceptable.

948
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 3: You're you're obviously provoking people to watch it. You know,

949
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 3: it's like it was like that was my I mean,

950
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 3: that was my wle Breitbart. You can't read Breitbart there.

951
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 4: They their right wing, and so of course naturally you

952
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 4: dig your heels in and.

953
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 2: Haters gave us the best pr always always, always ways,

954
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 2: I gotta figure out way to get canceled again. Here

955
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 2: why I got it because I got the new show

956
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 2: launching on my radios.

957
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 3: It's just your business, Emma, I.

958
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 2: Want to target you know, forty five for these things

959
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 2: were just across forty five as we're taping, is or

960
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 2: anything else on your mind that you really feel like

961
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 2: you want to talk about with this the Marlow Show audience.

962
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, well that was something that just just quickly, I

963
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 4: think you can't. You can't have this whole episode without

964
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 4: mentioning it is, especially at the last half of that

965
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 4: we're talking about Israel, and you know, obviously it's an

966
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 4: important issue. I don't want to be one of those people,

967
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 4: but that's like it doesn't matter. But what matters, I

968
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 4: think more is Minnesota. It's a lead on Breybart right now,

969
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 4: not there's no Israel lead on Breitbart. There's no around

970
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 4: lead on Brekebart. They're robbing law enforcement of their guns.

971
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 4: And I think that just you know, the quick thing

972
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 4: is this triggered me, and it reminded me of summer

973
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 4: of twenty twenty, and I think that, you know, there's

974
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 4: obviously COVID was a weird time, and it created a

975
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 4: lot of weird circumstances, and cheap by mail, you know,

976
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 4: was rampant, obviously, but I think that the vibe got

977
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 4: bad when the rioting was allowed to happen by the

978
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 4: federal government, where it was clear that local government either

979
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 4: was refusing or was in equipped to put down these

980
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:08,439
Speaker 4: violent riots, and the federal government wasn't stepping in, and

981
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 4: I'm not quite sure what the reason was for that.

982
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 4: And then, of course, you know, Trump had builed himself

983
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 4: as the law and order president and Democrats were running

984
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 4: ads showing Minnesota up in flames, and you know, and

985
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 4: Trump is president. And I think that the thing that

986
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 4: makes people who don't necessarily connect with his personality kind

987
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 4: of plug their nose and support him is because he

988
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:37,439
Speaker 4: promises order where the other party is a party of chaos.

989
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 4: And I'm really worried about the reaction to Minnesota and

990
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 4: what's being allowed to go down there at Portland the same.

991
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 4: You know, there was no real crackdown of Portland when

992
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 4: Portland went crazy. There was no real crackdown in New

993
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 4: York when the Palestine protests were going crazy. There needs

994
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 4: to be order imposed, I think from the federal level,

995
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 4: because Tim Waltz and Jacob Friar out there calling on

996
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 4: people to intervene right well, and this is the nature

997
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 4: of their anti law and order approach, is that we're

998
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 4: seeing these are people and.

999
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 2: By the way, a lot of them mass on, a

1000
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 2: lot of them mass on when they're doing this. But

1001
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 2: they're breaking into law enforcement vehicles according to video that

1002
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 2: Nick sord Or shot there, and they're stealing looks like

1003
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,240
Speaker 2: a long gun. I think this is not a handgun.

1004
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 2: So this is a huge case that they got. And

1005
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 2: the guy's got tattoos all over his face and he's

1006
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 2: got a bandana up. So any of you think that

1007
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 2: they should have, you know, masks, This guy's got a

1008
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 2: mask on the face, tattoos, stealing long guns, I mean,

1009
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 2: this is very deadly stuff. And you see every single

1010
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 2: Democrat politician in the city, in the state go out

1011
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 2: and defend the rioters over the ice.

1012
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 4: Agents, right, and then it's like okay, well that's where

1013
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 4: they are, I guess.

1014
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 3: But then.

1015
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 4: This has to be done with then on the federal level,

1016
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 4: Like I don't understand how you kind of let like

1017
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 4: just riot. I mean, I'm not a lawyer, So maybe

1018
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 4: there's something preventing them from, you know, ramping up the

1019
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 4: level of intervention and ramping up the amount of agents

1020
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 4: I guess that are present. But how is it that

1021
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 4: like people are able to act this way? And like

1022
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 4: I said, and how they've been in Portland, how they've

1023
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 4: been in New York, and now how they are in Minnesota,

1024
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 4: Like this is scaring me. It's scaring me for the

1025
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 4: midterms because this isn't good. And granted that that is

1026
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 4: exactly what the left is looking for. They're looking to

1027
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 4: create horrific heal.

1028
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, it works in twenty twenty. Let's not forget that

1029
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 2: that all this behavior is the same playbook that did

1030
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 2: work for them in twenty twenty. And then also when

1031
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 2: to talk about the fissures in our coalition, that we

1032
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 2: don't have a big margin. So there was another one

1033
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 2: where there's this great footage of Trump flipping off this

1034
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 2: guy at a foid factory or something like that. But

1035
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 2: the guy was saying that Trump was defending pedos. Trump

1036
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 2: doesn't defend petos. But the interpretation for a lot of

1037
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 2: extremely online people is that Trump's DOJ and FBI have

1038
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 2: worked very hard to try to cover up the Epstein releases.

1039
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 2: And I don't think Donald Trump here's one way or

1040
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 2: the other about any of that stuff. I don't I

1041
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 2: think is he hands or clean on this, But that's

1042
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 2: not necessarily the perception. And when the margins are so small,

1043
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 2: we take all this stuff seriously.

1044
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 4: Well, yes, I agree, but I mean again, it's like,

1045
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 4: this is pretty central. This is pretty central. Like you

1046
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 4: can't have the cities exploding into flames again, and that

1047
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 4: also shouldn't and the way to prevent that should never

1048
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:35,240
Speaker 4: be to pull back the ice presence, Like you can't

1049
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 4: do that.

1050
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,280
Speaker 3: I think that it has to be the opposite.

1051
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 4: It has to be increased presence of law enforcement and

1052
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 4: increased presence of agents to impose order on this situation

1053
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 4: and allow us to carry out the agenda that was

1054
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 4: voted for by the majority of people in this country.

1055
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 3: What these people are looking for as a veto on

1056
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 3: the last election.

1057
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 2: Exactly, Emma Joe, wonderful. I'm glad you got a chance

1058
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 2: to opine on to go on in Minneapolis, by the way,

1059
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 2: and your post just has a story outre you man

1060
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 2: arrested for attempted murder of the fads in Minneapolis. There

1061
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 2: I did as illegal immigrants from Venezuela. Oh again, it's

1062
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 2: what's what's the common factor? Legal immigrants always good? Or

1063
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 2: Venezuela's victim of Trump And it's really the Ice agents

1064
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 2: who are the problem and not the writers. So if

1065
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 2: we if we can't beat that wrong, I mean, if

1066
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 2: we can't beat the people who are running on that platform,

1067
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 2: then we kind of deserve to lose, right, Well.

1068
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 3: That's it.

1069
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 4: It's like it's got to be. It's got to I mean,

1070
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 4: I don't know how this is like allowed to go on.

1071
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 3: It's like what we just have.

1072
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 4: I if you just get to enough people who are

1073
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 4: going psycho in the streets that it just is allowed.

1074
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 2: I don't understand this, Emma Joe. Anywhere I can direct

1075
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:49,720
Speaker 2: people to what you're doing, You're you're active on X everything.

1076
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 4: Yes, I definitely am, probably probably to my demise, but yes,

1077
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 4: I'm on X I'm I'm doing a podcast on two Way,

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Speaker 4: the Group Chat, and that's pretty much the extent of

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Speaker 4: my public presence.

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Speaker 2: Two Way is Mark Alprim's outfit. Did they do good stuff?

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Speaker 2: I need to work with them on some stuff. He's

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Speaker 2: a good guy. I like Mark the the two Way

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Speaker 2: for the podcast which is called the Group Chat at

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Speaker 2: Emma Joe NYC on X the Everything app. And thank

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Speaker 2: you for doing this. We will do this again very soon.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for my sixteenth time maybe on the Alex

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Speaker 4: Marlow Show, and it's on I.

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Speaker 2: Think Way, and you're once again the leader in the clubhouse.

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Speaker 2: And now that I'm recording the show at a pretty

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Speaker 2: much a set time now for even for the podcast,

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Speaker 2: I think Noltan's going to fade back. I think he's

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Speaker 2: your rival right now. Noltan Karney are sort of your

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Speaker 2: main competition. So I think that this is.

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Speaker 4: Well being in the league with Milton Karney is isn't

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Speaker 4: a bad place.

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Speaker 2: Good sends and very knowledgeable individuals. All right, we're going along.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate you very much, and I appreciate

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Speaker 2: all the the audience. Mister John Casio cuts clips for us,

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Speaker 2: all of you who check out the live radio show

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Speaker 2: every day at noon Eastern for an hour, and then

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Speaker 2: it's on the Salem News Channel in the evenings. Make

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Speaker 2: sure not to miss those as well, and I'll talk

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Speaker 2: to you next time.