1 00:00:08,257 --> 00:00:09,457 Speaker 1: Life audio. 2 00:00:11,137 --> 00:00:13,297 Speaker 2: Find inspiration as close as your phone. 3 00:00:13,457 --> 00:00:16,697 Speaker 3: Download the Jesus Calling app and get started today for free. 4 00:00:17,097 --> 00:00:19,337 Speaker 2: Look for the Jesus Calling app in both the Apple 5 00:00:19,497 --> 00:00:20,736 Speaker 2: and Google Play stores. 6 00:00:28,577 --> 00:00:33,976 Speaker 3: Hey, I'm Susie McIntyre. Eaton for Jesus. Listen stories of prayer. Today, 7 00:00:34,577 --> 00:00:37,617 Speaker 3: I'm going to go into the studio and talk to 8 00:00:37,897 --> 00:00:42,497 Speaker 3: Ruth cho Simons. She's an author and artist. She's just 9 00:00:42,817 --> 00:00:46,977 Speaker 3: a wonderful lady. She has a brand new, new, new 10 00:00:47,097 --> 00:00:51,417 Speaker 3: new book. It's out in October, and you're gonna want 11 00:00:51,417 --> 00:00:53,857 Speaker 3: to get this because she is such a gifted writer. 12 00:00:54,257 --> 00:00:58,937 Speaker 3: She is a very compassionate speaker. She's one who has 13 00:00:59,097 --> 00:01:03,217 Speaker 3: been through some trials and tribulations, even just coming to 14 00:01:03,337 --> 00:01:07,137 Speaker 3: an America from Ti One at the age of four 15 00:01:07,537 --> 00:01:11,697 Speaker 3: to have to adapt and learn new language as a 16 00:01:11,697 --> 00:01:15,337 Speaker 3: little girl. I enjoy her so much in her life 17 00:01:15,337 --> 00:01:19,257 Speaker 3: and I'm looking so forward to visiting with her today. Hey, 18 00:01:19,417 --> 00:01:22,457 Speaker 3: I just wanted to tell you that my girls group 19 00:01:23,057 --> 00:01:27,097 Speaker 3: at church here in southeastern Oklahoma did your Bible study. 20 00:01:27,777 --> 00:01:27,937 Speaker 2: Oh. 21 00:01:28,417 --> 00:01:31,857 Speaker 3: I think it was such a blessing to us. What's 22 00:01:31,937 --> 00:01:37,417 Speaker 3: life like for you with I mean, you've got six 23 00:01:37,977 --> 00:01:42,697 Speaker 3: six boys, so there's seven males in your household. Was 24 00:01:42,737 --> 00:01:45,737 Speaker 3: it a stress on your life for you? Naturally? 25 00:01:46,257 --> 00:01:48,257 Speaker 2: I thought it would be, and I didn't even feel 26 00:01:48,297 --> 00:01:51,657 Speaker 2: like a natural mama. But it's been such a joy. 27 00:01:51,697 --> 00:01:54,977 Speaker 2: They're really amazing boys, and so my husband's just a 28 00:01:55,057 --> 00:01:56,897 Speaker 2: great I mean, I thought he was going to be 29 00:01:56,937 --> 00:01:59,657 Speaker 2: a girl dad, but he really is a great dad 30 00:01:59,697 --> 00:02:02,017 Speaker 2: to these boys. And so it's been really lovely. And 31 00:02:02,257 --> 00:02:04,937 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously there's been times where you're like, what, 32 00:02:05,617 --> 00:02:07,377 Speaker 2: that's a lot of energy, and there's a lot of 33 00:02:07,417 --> 00:02:11,777 Speaker 2: testos in the South, but they're also very much renaissance men. 34 00:02:12,137 --> 00:02:15,177 Speaker 2: They love arts and music, and they go hiking and 35 00:02:15,177 --> 00:02:19,257 Speaker 2: dirt biking and motorcycles, but also play music. And so 36 00:02:19,337 --> 00:02:20,817 Speaker 2: it's been it's really sweet. 37 00:02:21,337 --> 00:02:28,177 Speaker 3: You seem so calm. I can't imagine you having to 38 00:02:28,377 --> 00:02:33,537 Speaker 3: speak about topics like replacing the gospel of self improvement 39 00:02:33,617 --> 00:02:38,217 Speaker 3: with the gospel of life transforming grace that you would 40 00:02:38,337 --> 00:02:44,617 Speaker 3: ever even struggle with that. What was your struggle to 41 00:02:44,777 --> 00:02:46,537 Speaker 3: cause you to minister here? 42 00:02:47,017 --> 00:02:50,977 Speaker 2: English was not my first language. So I was born 43 00:02:51,017 --> 00:02:54,657 Speaker 2: in Taiwan and came to the US when I was young, 44 00:02:54,897 --> 00:03:00,457 Speaker 2: and ultimately grew up and became a citizen and became 45 00:03:01,217 --> 00:03:03,737 Speaker 2: fluent in English, and now I write books in English. 46 00:03:03,817 --> 00:03:08,457 Speaker 2: And yet that journey was one where I was really 47 00:03:08,457 --> 00:03:11,417 Speaker 2: living in the tension of two cultures. And then I 48 00:03:11,497 --> 00:03:14,017 Speaker 2: became a believer and lived in the tension of being 49 00:03:14,337 --> 00:03:19,337 Speaker 2: in between what I wanted to understand through the Gospel 50 00:03:19,377 --> 00:03:21,097 Speaker 2: and yet what the world was telling me. And so 51 00:03:21,337 --> 00:03:23,497 Speaker 2: there was a lot of striving involved in all that. 52 00:03:23,577 --> 00:03:27,777 Speaker 2: And so I would say, you know, regardless, I mean, 53 00:03:27,857 --> 00:03:30,377 Speaker 2: somebody can look really calm on the outside and be 54 00:03:30,457 --> 00:03:34,537 Speaker 2: completely stressed out and fearful and anxious on the inside. 55 00:03:35,057 --> 00:03:38,457 Speaker 2: My desire has always been that my outside would reflect 56 00:03:38,457 --> 00:03:39,937 Speaker 2: what's really going on inside. 57 00:03:40,097 --> 00:03:43,977 Speaker 3: I'd like to share a quote from your book. Wildflowers 58 00:03:43,977 --> 00:03:46,977 Speaker 3: don't need to be taught how to live freely or 59 00:03:47,017 --> 00:03:52,457 Speaker 3: release their burdens. They're dependent on their maker. Could you 60 00:03:52,537 --> 00:03:56,937 Speaker 3: talk about that passage from Luke, what it's based on, 61 00:03:56,977 --> 00:03:59,937 Speaker 3: and how you've learned this in your own life. 62 00:04:00,057 --> 00:04:04,177 Speaker 2: You know, when Jesus is giving his sermon on the 63 00:04:04,177 --> 00:04:08,577 Speaker 2: mountain and he's giving instructions, he's talking to people and 64 00:04:08,617 --> 00:04:13,057 Speaker 2: sharing what it is to live free in unburdened and 65 00:04:13,257 --> 00:04:16,537 Speaker 2: trusting God because they've been trusting in a lot of 66 00:04:17,057 --> 00:04:19,856 Speaker 2: you know, their own resources, they were trusting in their 67 00:04:19,856 --> 00:04:26,736 Speaker 2: religious efforts. And this is Jesus saying, take a look around, 68 00:04:26,777 --> 00:04:29,416 Speaker 2: look at how the wildflowers grow, look at how the 69 00:04:29,416 --> 00:04:32,577 Speaker 2: birds of the year. They're not fretting, they're not worried, 70 00:04:32,856 --> 00:04:35,416 Speaker 2: they're not trying to store up from themselves. And look 71 00:04:35,457 --> 00:04:39,176 Speaker 2: at the flowers in the field. They don't have to 72 00:04:39,376 --> 00:04:42,936 Speaker 2: work so hard at being beautiful and luscious that they 73 00:04:43,017 --> 00:04:46,137 Speaker 2: truly are just stepping into exactly what God has for them. 74 00:04:46,416 --> 00:04:50,416 Speaker 2: And so it's always been just a really beautiful picture 75 00:04:50,976 --> 00:04:52,736 Speaker 2: of living free in Jesus. 76 00:04:53,296 --> 00:04:55,496 Speaker 3: Could you give us an example of one of the 77 00:04:55,616 --> 00:04:57,856 Speaker 3: meditations that you have in your new book. 78 00:04:58,217 --> 00:05:03,097 Speaker 2: I really believe that when Jesus said, consider how the 79 00:05:03,296 --> 00:05:05,897 Speaker 2: flowers grow, how the field, the flowers of the field grow, 80 00:05:06,176 --> 00:05:09,377 Speaker 2: or if in the in IV translation, how the wildflowers grow. 81 00:05:09,816 --> 00:05:13,056 Speaker 2: When he's describing that, he's really saying, look up and 82 00:05:13,056 --> 00:05:17,177 Speaker 2: pay attention to how I have taken care of everything. 83 00:05:17,376 --> 00:05:20,216 Speaker 2: There's not one thing you can do or what place 84 00:05:20,257 --> 00:05:23,136 Speaker 2: you can go in life where I'm not already there 85 00:05:23,416 --> 00:05:26,256 Speaker 2: and I'm not already providing. And so we read it first, 86 00:05:26,257 --> 00:05:29,857 Speaker 2: Peter cast your anxieties on him, because he cares for you. 87 00:05:30,137 --> 00:05:34,537 Speaker 2: And so that statement in Peter First Peter is the 88 00:05:34,577 --> 00:05:38,737 Speaker 2: reminder that every anxiety and everywhere we have we can 89 00:05:38,736 --> 00:05:41,376 Speaker 2: actually lay at his feet. And so through the book, 90 00:05:41,457 --> 00:05:45,376 Speaker 2: I talk about these thirty different scenarios, and there are 91 00:05:45,496 --> 00:05:48,176 Speaker 2: meditations to help us remember, whether you use it as 92 00:05:48,176 --> 00:05:50,776 Speaker 2: a devotional or you keep it on the coffee table 93 00:05:50,936 --> 00:05:53,017 Speaker 2: just to help you remember when you need to, like 94 00:05:53,217 --> 00:05:56,176 Speaker 2: lock in and say, oh, I'm not alone when I 95 00:05:56,217 --> 00:05:58,577 Speaker 2: worry about these things. But I can turn my eyes 96 00:05:58,616 --> 00:05:59,176 Speaker 2: to Jesus. 97 00:05:59,416 --> 00:06:02,016 Speaker 3: I'm going to order this book, and I'm going to 98 00:06:02,296 --> 00:06:05,176 Speaker 3: look at your art, and I may even somehow try 99 00:06:05,217 --> 00:06:07,816 Speaker 3: to get hold of something to hear you sing, because 100 00:06:07,856 --> 00:06:09,777 Speaker 3: I bet you sing a lot better than what you're 101 00:06:09,856 --> 00:06:10,496 Speaker 3: talking about. 102 00:06:11,137 --> 00:06:13,176 Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, absolutely not. 103 00:06:13,416 --> 00:06:17,337 Speaker 4: But but we always yeah, you're welcome. We always close 104 00:06:17,496 --> 00:06:22,456 Speaker 4: our episode with a reading from Jesus. Listens Sarah Young, 105 00:06:22,537 --> 00:06:24,976 Speaker 4: who has gone on to be with the Lord. It's 106 00:06:24,976 --> 00:06:27,937 Speaker 4: from August the twenty fifth, and it is a prayer 107 00:06:27,936 --> 00:06:31,337 Speaker 4: if you'd like to pray along with me, delightful Jesus, 108 00:06:31,457 --> 00:06:34,457 Speaker 4: thank you for showing me that Heaven is both present 109 00:06:34,697 --> 00:06:38,817 Speaker 4: and future. As I walk along my life path holding 110 00:06:38,856 --> 00:06:42,057 Speaker 4: your hand I am already in touch with the essence 111 00:06:42,097 --> 00:06:46,097 Speaker 4: of heaven nearness to you. While journeying with you, I 112 00:06:46,176 --> 00:06:50,616 Speaker 4: perceive lovely hints of heaven. The earth is radiantly alive 113 00:06:50,736 --> 00:06:56,176 Speaker 4: with your presence. Shimmering sunshine awakens my heart, gently reminding 114 00:06:56,257 --> 00:07:01,097 Speaker 4: me of your brilliant light. Birds and flowers, trees and skies. 115 00:07:01,176 --> 00:07:04,657 Speaker 4: Evoke praises to your holy name. Help me to be 116 00:07:04,777 --> 00:07:08,537 Speaker 4: fully open to the splendors of your creation as I 117 00:07:08,697 --> 00:07:12,776 Speaker 4: walk in the light of your love in your heavenly name. 118 00:07:13,017 --> 00:07:17,177 Speaker 3: Amen. Thank you so much for joining us on Jesus' 119 00:07:17,177 --> 00:07:20,377 Speaker 3: Listen Stories of Prayer. I am so honored to be 120 00:07:20,417 --> 00:07:22,896 Speaker 3: a part of this. We'll be back next time with 121 00:07:22,977 --> 00:07:28,017 Speaker 3: another episode another guest, but until then, please always remember 122 00:07:28,097 --> 00:07:31,577 Speaker 3: that Jesus hears you, he cares for you, and he's 123 00:07:31,816 --> 00:07:35,377 Speaker 3: just a prayer away. 124 00:07:40,457 --> 00:07:43,297 Speaker 1: Be sure to follow us on social media and on 125 00:07:43,377 --> 00:07:46,297 Speaker 1: the Jesus Calling podcast on Apple or wherever you get 126 00:07:46,337 --> 00:07:48,817 Speaker 1: your podcasts so that you can keep up with our 127 00:07:48,857 --> 00:07:52,177 Speaker 1: weekly audio episodes in special monthly series like this one, 128 00:07:52,657 --> 00:07:55,177 Speaker 1: and be sure to subscribe to the Jesus Calling channel 129 00:07:55,217 --> 00:07:58,777 Speaker 1: on YouTube, where you'll find the video version of this interview. 130 00:07:59,137 --> 00:07:59,937 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening,