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Speaker 2: stigaul dot com. There's a link right there. All right,

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Speaker 2: President Trump seizing this oil tanker off the coast of Venezuela.

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Speaker 2: Anybody mad about this? Taking a show of hands, I

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Speaker 2: paid Katari online influencers who told me that there your

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Speaker 2: problems to Gaul, he's not America First. Here he's on

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Speaker 2: the campaign trail talking about economics, and affordability, and the

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Speaker 2: next minute he seasoned Venezuelan oil tankers. So, Eddie, you say,

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Speaker 7: I can't imagine they would be. We're blowing up narco terrorists.

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Speaker 7: Trump means business. If this is a way of showing

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Speaker 2: It be done. Was a single shot fired that I'm

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Speaker 2: Yeah, did we lose a single Was anyone injured? Was

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Speaker 2: any American military personnel injured or wounded or in any

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Speaker 2: kind of ineminent danger? There's always some danger, obviously when

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Speaker 2: was there any loss of life or injury to military

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Speaker 2: thankfully that's that's And do we view Venezuela as a

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Speaker 7: Oh, we absolutely view Venezuela has a problem.

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Speaker 2: Yes, indeed for a couple of different reasons. Chief among

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Speaker 2: them is President Trump's concern that they are fast tracking

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Speaker 2: they're doing tons of business with Iran. It's pretty clear

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Speaker 2: which was the justification for the seizure of this oil

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Speaker 2: tanker Iran's and no go, We've already obliterated their nuke

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Speaker 2: program without again a single hair being harmed on the

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Speaker 2: speak of China either. Look, I don't know how is

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Speaker 2: if we aren't control of this hemisphere, and I don't

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Speaker 2: mean literally governing it, but I do mean this is

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Speaker 2: gonna put it down. We have a covenant and it's ours.

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Speaker 2: We're in control of this hemisphere, baby, and our flexing

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Speaker 2: is important at times like these, and that's exactly what

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump did. The seizure comes into the United States,

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Speaker 2: builds up its forces in the Caribbean, part of the

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Speaker 2: campaign against the Maduro regime in seizing this oil tanker,

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Speaker 2: a dramatic escalation in the President's pressure campaign against Maduro.

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Speaker 2: speaking at the White House before an event on a

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Speaker 2: new visa program, the President kind of snuck this in here.

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Speaker 2: It was funny. In the middle of the day yesterday.

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Speaker 2: of kind of snuck in there. Oh, by the way,

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Speaker 2: we seized a massive oil tanker, number sixty seven. Well

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Speaker 2: we keep it.

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Speaker 9: I guess when you have to follow the tanker.

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Speaker 2: You know, here a good Desmond, just.

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Speaker 10: Follow the tanker, follow following, Get a helicopter, follow the tanker.

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Speaker 2: We're going to I assume we're going to keep the

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Speaker 2: I don't know, get a helicopter and chase it around

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Speaker 2: if you want. What the hell do I care? My

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Speaker 2: goal was stopping the transfer of the oil. When asked

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Speaker 2: I guess why. Honestly, Like of everything there is to

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Speaker 2: thing that comes to the press's mind is, well, are

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Speaker 2: you going to keep that oil? You can already hear it,

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Speaker 2: and that's not your oil. You can't just steal from

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Speaker 2: other countries. That's immediately where their mind went, right, that's

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Speaker 2: what they're thinking. Three US officials who spoke on the

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Speaker 2: condition of anonymity to describe a law enforcement operation said

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Speaker 2: the ship was carrying Venezuelan oil. They said there was

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Speaker 2: no resistance from the crew, no casualties. The operation the

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Speaker 2: latest tactic and expanding an effort to squeeze Venezuela and

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Speaker 2: pressure Maduro. The Trump administration has accused him of running

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Speaker 2: narco terrorist cartels to the United States dates and said

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Speaker 2: September the United States has launched more than twenty two

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Speaker 2: sure he is. I don't know. I've never met him.

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Speaker 2: Maybe if he has a day off, he can come

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Speaker 2: are just they're seeing the numbers, they're seeing the data,

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Speaker 2: they're seeing the market. They do not buy what Trump

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Speaker 5: But the affordability issue is but from the twenty two

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Speaker 2: There's this full stop right there. That's the affordability issue.

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Speaker 2: And you haven't be able to explain that.

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Speaker 11: Right.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 12: And look, I think that with the economic team President

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Speaker 12: Trump and the economic team led by Scott Dessant, you

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Speaker 12: have people who very much understand this and it was

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Speaker 12: a they were thrown you know what, I would say,

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Speaker 12: the worst economy for the average American in my adult

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Speaker 12: lifetime in terms of the like you said, the incredible

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Speaker 12: increase in prices at the household.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, again, where we've been matters. You can't ignore what

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Speaker 2: this man inherited, either whether it's wide open borders and

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Speaker 2: the free flow of drugs or an inflationary economy that

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Speaker 2: was out of control and just printing money. You know,

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Speaker 2: I know, politically people say this every time they acquire

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Speaker 2: an office. They say, well, I inherited a mess. But folks,

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Speaker 2: there is no way to look at the four years

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Speaker 2: of that pretend husk, that shell of a human being

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Speaker 2: that we were calling a president. There is no way

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Speaker 2: to objectively look at the last four years and not

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Speaker 2: see us as sitting ducks. Had President Trump not won

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Speaker 2: that victory, I shudder to think. Kamala Harris, President Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 2: He's shutting down borders, He's shutting down the free flow

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Speaker 2: of drugs into this country. He is working and moving

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Speaker 2: heaven and earth to onshore business and restructure this economy

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Speaker 2: so that it grows from the inside out. But good grief,

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Speaker 2: this is a complete renovation, folks. This is you know,

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Speaker 2: you watch those house Runo shows, those Flipper shows. He

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Speaker 2: bought a dump. No, look, I know exactly I feel

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Speaker 2: the same way. Friend of mine text me, he said, Stigaud,

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Speaker 2: you are exactly right. Trump is kicking button, taking names.

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Speaker 2: You know what I wish, he said, And I couldn't disagree.

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Speaker 2: I wish I felt like Pam Bondy over there at

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Speaker 2: DOJ was kicking button taking names the way Trump is,

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Speaker 2: he said. I wish Democrats were being punished and prosecuted

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Speaker 2: the way Trump is punishing and prosecuting terrorists and drug runners.

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Speaker 2: Fair or unfair observation, fast Eddie, Uh, that's fair. That's

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Speaker 2: a fair observation. Yeah, I know it's not totally analogous.

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Speaker 2: But people are seeing action with Donald Trump. And that's

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Speaker 2: the thing about DJ and Pambondi. They just don't feel

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Speaker 2: like they see the same. Pambondi's not repelling on ropes

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Speaker 2: to Epstein Island or you know, Tim Walls's home, and

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Speaker 2: so we don't see a lot of what she's doing,

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Speaker 2: and it frustrates people. I'm not spinning four folks. I

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Speaker 2: don't know. In fact, there is chatter that maybe President

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Speaker 2: Trump may replace her. You know what I saw, And

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Speaker 2: again it's probably internet gossip. Actually, all right, I just

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Speaker 2: won't comment, but I will say I saw they were

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Speaker 2: floating the name Trey Goudi to return to government as

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Speaker 2: a potential replacement fast Eddie. I'm not going to touch it.

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Speaker 2: I'm just going to say, that's a gossip piece that

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Speaker 2: I read that Trump is thinking about replacing Pambondi with

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Speaker 2: Trey Goudy.

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Speaker 7: What what is it with I'm sorry, sorry, just going

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Speaker 7: on a rabbit hole for a second. What does it

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Speaker 7: mat The Fox newspeople like what is I mean? Believe me,

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Speaker 7: I love Pete Hegseth, but.

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Speaker 2: Like everybody else, it's like, what are we doing? Okay?

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Speaker 7: All right, all right?

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Speaker 2: That can't be true. That just can't. I'm I'm going

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Speaker 2: to I'm going to just go into the holidays and

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Speaker 2: trust that that was internet gossip and not true. All right.

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Speaker 2: Looking at next year, I was just reading here about

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Speaker 2: too late Jerome Powell reducing the interest rate and over

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Speaker 2: at the AP they had to admit and they're just

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Speaker 2: ticked about it. So is Powell for that matter. But

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Speaker 2: they're gonna look like stooges next year if they don't

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Speaker 2: acknowledge it. Here it is. Powell was also optimistic about

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Speaker 2: the economy's growth next year, and said consumers spending remains

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Speaker 2: resilient while companies are still invest in AI infrastructure. He

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Speaker 2: also suggested growing worker efficiency could contribute to faster growth

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Speaker 2: without more inflation. What's this now, Well, that's beat Wow,

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Speaker 2: that's buried about two pages deep in the story. That

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Speaker 2: sounds pretty damned optimistic from too late. You don't know.

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Speaker 2: You don't lower the interest rate if you think the comma,

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Speaker 2: And that was the whole justification this entire year of

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Speaker 2: lowering the interest rate earlier. Oh well, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: These tariffs really a problem. I don't know these tariffs.

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Speaker 2: Hold no, No, we can't lower the interest rate tariffs.

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Speaker 2: We don't know what's going to happen.

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Speaker 11: Black.

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Speaker 2: Well, now he's lowered it like three times and said,

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Speaker 2: I think things are looking pretty good for twenty six,

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Speaker 2: so we'll probably lower it again one more time next year.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, if Trump gets his way, and I

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Speaker 2: know a lot of people debate this, but if Trump

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Speaker 2: gets his way and gets a chairman that does his bidding,

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Speaker 2: which I get it, people say that's not the job

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Speaker 2: of the FED chair to do the president's bidding. But

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Speaker 2: I mean, come on, Trump, wants to see more than

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Speaker 2: just one breake cut if he gets his way. Dana

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Speaker 2: Perino going over some numbers of what's coming. And this

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Speaker 2: is real, this is not even kicked in yet. You

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Speaker 2: know what I looked up last night. I think she's

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Speaker 2: still asleep. I can say this, looking at getting the

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Speaker 2: wife a new car this year, next year, in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty six, she's been driving the same thing. Well she's

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Speaker 2: been driving I mean like the family truckster. I'm not kidding.

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Speaker 2: We have driven this particular she has driven this minivan

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Speaker 2: now since twenty eleven, two hundred thirty five thousand miles.

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Speaker 2: On the sucker Fest Eddie, we drive cars into the

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Speaker 2: ground at the Stigall House. I like it.

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Speaker 7: All right, that's exciting, man, that's look at you.

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Speaker 2: That's a heck of a Christmas. Yeah, give me number

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Speaker 2: fifty seven. Here. This is Dana Perino going over what's coming.

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Speaker 1: To imagine, if you are somebody who uses tips as

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Speaker 1: part of your salary or to make your living, that

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Speaker 1: will have an impact. The senior to duck you have

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Speaker 1: to be sixty five years old. It phases out at

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Speaker 1: seventy five thousand dollars. But again for people who are

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Speaker 1: saying gas prices which are lower, but that food prices

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Speaker 1: are higher, that it's hard for them.

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Speaker 2: That might help as well.

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Speaker 1: There's a no tax on car loan interests now that

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Speaker 1: can be helpful. But what might be even more helpful

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Speaker 1: is what they announced last week, which is they're doing

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Speaker 1: away with some of the EPA rules on these car

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Speaker 11: So.

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Speaker 2: There you go. When I heard that, I'm the perfect example.

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Speaker 2: I'm an American who might go shopping for an American

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Speaker 2: than you know. As a matter of fact, it's kind well,

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Speaker 2: I've been getting some nice emails. Thank you so much

644
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Speaker 2: for your kind words. Tomorrow open line Friday. By the way,

645
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Speaker 2: you should know, just in case you're newer here, we

646
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Speaker 2: do the tradition to keep it alive. Rush used to

647
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 2: do it. We love it. If there's something on your mind,

648
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 2: then you don't typically either call in and you think, well,

649
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Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm not gonna I'm not going to

650
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Speaker 2: chime in on this or that. People email from time

651
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Speaker 2: to time and they say, well, I never call, I

652
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Speaker 2: don't write, But I had this thought. Friday is the

653
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 2: great day to do that because you can call in

654
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Speaker 2: and talk about whatever you want. It doesn't have to

655
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Speaker 2: be what's on my mind? All right? So eight five

656
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Speaker 2: five Stigall's the telephone number. Hope you'll use it on

657
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 2: this open line Friday tomorrow. Meanwhile, in California, Alex is

658
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 2: waiting patiently. Let's head to it, talking about the seizure

659
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Speaker 2: of this big Venezuelan oil tanker, the drug boats being

660
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Speaker 2: blown out of the water. Alex, good morning, Glad you're here.

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Speaker 14: Hello, Hi Chris, thanks for taking my call. I just

662
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Speaker 14: have two brief comments. The first one is that the

663
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Speaker 14: cause of the drug problem is not Maduro or leaders

664
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Speaker 14: of any other countries explorting drugs in the US. The

665
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 14: problem is that people voluntarily take the drugs and then

666
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Speaker 14: die from it. And my second brief comment is the

667
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Speaker 14: proof of my first comment is simply to observe that

668
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Speaker 14: Americans of East Asian ancestry do not have any kind

669
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Speaker 14: of drug problem. Africans and Hispanics have a drug problem

670
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Speaker 14: because they voluntary take it. What's wrong with them? Why

671
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Speaker 14: can't they act like people of East Asian ancestry and

672
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Speaker 14: just be disciplined, don't take something that harmed yourself, don't

673
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Speaker 14: take narcotics.

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Speaker 2: So you think our drug problem is strictly a lack

675
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Speaker 2: of self control.

676
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Speaker 14: That's right, because you just see the problem in the

677
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Speaker 14: East Asian community. If this was if it was not

678
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Speaker 14: any show of self control, then then then you would

679
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Speaker 14: see the same high death rate from Fenston All but

680
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Speaker 14: you don't see it. You don't see it in the

681
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Speaker 14: East Asian community. You can ask any medical policy analyst

682
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Speaker 14: at a reputable university and ask them give me the

683
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Speaker 14: data and it will prove exactly what I just told you.

684
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Speaker 2: Well, I can't speak to that data. I haven't seen it.

685
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Speaker 2: I'm not going to argue that data point with you.

686
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 2: But is there alcoholism in East Asian countries?

687
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Speaker 7: There is?

688
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Speaker 14: There is not as far as I know. The one

689
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Speaker 14: country I'm familiar with is Japan. There is no alcoholism

690
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Speaker 14: problem there.

691
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Speaker 2: Okay, I will tell you. As a guy who no

692
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 2: longer drinks but abused it for far too long, people

693
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Speaker 2: would say to me, why don't you just stop? And

694
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Speaker 2: I didn't. What does that mean for me.

695
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Speaker 14: Having that self control? And you know, when you become

696
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Speaker 14: an adult you have to make appropriate decisions and you

697
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Speaker 14: have to take responsibility for your actions.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yes, no, that's that's true. I don't think

699
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Speaker 2: anybody I don't think anybody is suggesting that you're not

700
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Speaker 2: in control of your own actions. You but you don't.

701
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Speaker 2: You don't addiction is not a real thing to you, then.

702
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Speaker 14: It is a real thing. But it has to do

703
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Speaker 14: with self will, your your your ability to control your behavior.

704
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Speaker 14: You know, there are a lot of laws in this

705
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Speaker 14: country which are intended to protect people from their own stupidity, like,

706
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Speaker 14: for example, seatbelt laws. We need to stop that. People

707
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Speaker 14: need to take responsibility for acting in a way that

708
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Speaker 14: is appropriate. And if we do that, then we won't

709
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Speaker 14: have it. We won't have a drop up, we won't

710
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Speaker 14: have a you know, traffic accidents in which people die

711
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Speaker 14: because they don't use seat belts. I mean, it's all

712
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 14: this stuff to protect people. I guess the most prominent

713
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Speaker 14: example of a government trying to protect people from their

714
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Speaker 14: own stupidity are these term limit laws. You know, people

715
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Speaker 14: want to let the same dope, the same guy, the

716
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 14: same corupt politician, over and over and over again, let

717
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Speaker 14: him do it.

718
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Speaker 2: This is a very interesting look. I'm a biblical guy,

719
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Speaker 2: and I know that the Bible is very very clear

720
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Speaker 2: on having self control, being self controlled, and I was not,

721
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Speaker 2: for instance, personally with my drinking for a very long time,

722
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Speaker 2: but not until the Holy Spirit interceded in my life

723
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 2: did that change for me. I either didn't have the

724
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Speaker 2: strength of the willpower or what have you. And I

725
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 2: have a long line of people who drank far too

726
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 2: much in my family. I know that much too. Good people,

727
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 2: productive people, didn't really run a follow of the law,

728
00:39:55,320 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 2: but drank entirely too much. I again, I'm not a scientist,

729
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 2: I'm not a therapist, but I suspect there were a

730
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Speaker 2: good number of people that are listening to me right

731
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Speaker 2: now that would argue it is not strictly and only

732
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Speaker 2: about people's lack of self control and will power.

733
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Speaker 14: Yes, I agree that there is a genetic tendency to

734
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Speaker 14: do certain things, but but genetics doesn't program you to

735
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Speaker 14: do those things. You have self will, You have freedom

736
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Speaker 14: of choice, and that's what let me.

737
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Speaker 2: Let me rather than rather than debate this point, let

738
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Speaker 2: me ask you this cutting off the flow of this stuff,

739
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Speaker 2: because first of all, there are lots of people within

740
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Speaker 2: earshot of our voice right now who have lost someone

741
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Speaker 2: to fentanyl totally unattentionally. You understand the danger of fentanyl,

742
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 2: I'm sure, yes, yes, yeah, So fentanyl is being trafficked

743
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Speaker 2: in here, so regardless of the you know, willpower and

744
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 2: people overdosing and taking too much or being addicts. Like

745
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Speaker 2: setting that aside for a minute, the entry of fentanyl

746
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Speaker 2: into this country that's now winding up in kids. You know,

747
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Speaker 2: a kid takes an aspirin at a ball game and

748
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 2: all of a sudden drops dead because it was laced

749
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Speaker 2: with fentanyl. He didn't know the difference, or it's on

750
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Speaker 2: a dollar bill. I mean, a stunningly little amount of

751
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 2: fentanyl can kill you, as you know, and that's made

752
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 2: its way into our uh, into the public with without

753
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Speaker 2: our knowledge, and that supply has got to be cut off.

754
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Speaker 2: When you.

755
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Speaker 14: Distinction. If it's a legal drug, like for example, aspirin,

756
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Speaker 14: and it's got something contaminating it, then we have to

757
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Speaker 14: go after the people are doing that. However, if it's

758
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 14: an illegal narcotic it has spentanyl, then we should not

759
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 14: go after those people. We need to have self control.

760
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Speaker 14: But in the case of the aspirin example, which you cite,

761
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Speaker 14: that's a valid justification go after the people who are

762
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Speaker 14: doing that, because that's like, that's like people who contaminate

763
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Speaker 14: who contaminated tail and all many years ago.

764
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know is your but is your argument

765
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Speaker 2: that we should do nothing about the supply.

766
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Speaker 14: We should do nothing because it's into a voluntary self

767
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Speaker 14: will problem, and that you know we're wasting money on that.

768
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Speaker 2: I'm fascinated with this, I really am, and I'm not

769
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm really not arguing the point with you.

770
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Speaker 2: I understand and respect your position, but I find it

771
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 2: fascinating that you you just think as long as people

772
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Speaker 2: are going to consume drugs, we should keep feeding it.

773
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Speaker 14: We're not as a society feeding people with drugs. They

774
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Speaker 14: are voluntarily buying it.

775
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Speaker 2: No, no, no, I mean they're they're legally crossing into

776
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 2: the border, right, I mean they're they're legally being ferried in,

777
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 2: shipped in coming up over the southern border. People trying

778
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:40,879
Speaker 2: to ship them in. That's what these drug boats are doing.

779
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 2: There's a demand for them, that's true. So we were

780
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Speaker 2: having a discussion about demand. But I'll set that aside

781
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Speaker 2: for a minute. We shouldn't do anything even if there's

782
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Speaker 2: a demand to consume illegal drugs in this country, we

783
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Speaker 2: as a government, as a people, shouldn't do something to

784
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Speaker 2: cut off the supply.

785
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 14: That's right, Well, we should because you know, there's a

786
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Speaker 14: lot of dangerous stuff, not just drugs.

787
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 2: Well, sure, so then we shouldn't so we shouldn't have

788
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 2: locks on doors. We shouldn't lock up I mean, you know,

789
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 2: stores shouldn't lock up their merchandise and make us go

790
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 2: get a key to go by the odor and at

791
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 2: the CVS if a store because people can't stop shoplifting.

792
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 14: That's actually a good example. So let's says a store

793
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 14: owner decides he doesn't want to put locks and he

794
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 14: gets robbed and reports it to the police. Then well,

795
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 14: then that's his problem because he deliberately didn't put any

796
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 14: lock on there, and he could have. You know, that's

797
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 14: his He has to make a smart decision about how

798
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 14: he runs his store, put the locks on. And if

799
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 14: he put the locks on and then somebody breaks in, okay,

800
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 14: then let's go after the guy broke in because he

801
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 14: did what was appropriate. But if he deliberately didn't put

802
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 14: a lock on his door, and he just said basically

803
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Speaker 14: hang aside on his door on his store saying there

804
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 14: are no locks and that you guys come on in,

805
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 14: that's not just the fault of society. We can go

806
00:43:58,520 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 14: after those.

807
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 2: Okay, Well then we'll we'll have to walk it out

808
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 2: and say, you don't even think police work should happen

809
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 2: on the streets of American cities.

810
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Speaker 9: When it comes to drugs, if the drugs involved, for example, murder,

811
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Speaker 9: criminal activity of that nature, then that's not voluntary.

812
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 14: So when someone commits.

813
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 9: Murder, okay.

814
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Speaker 2: But if I if I'm having a cocaine party in

815
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 2: my basement at State least to gall Manor, you think

816
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 2: the cops should ignore that.

817
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 14: That's right? You know you you made really.

818
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Speaker 2: Okay, So you're a pure libertarian guy. Is that the

819
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: same I assume with prostitution. If I want to run

820
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 2: a brothel at State least to gall Manor, you're a

821
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 2: come on in half flat fellows me.

822
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Speaker 14: A libertarian because I believe governments should provide certain services.

823
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Speaker 14: But in case of I'm very narrow in my specification

824
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 14: of only those activities, which are you know, you voluntarily

825
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 14: chose to do something stupid. Society is not responsible for

826
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 14: that and we shouldn't.

827
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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, but society, I mean society at large suffers

828
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Speaker 2: the consequences of I mean, for instance, if you walk

829
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 2: down the streets of some places in Philadelphia, you will

830
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 2: see like a zombie apocalypse of you know, people on

831
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 2: heroin stumble it around the streets. Does you know do

832
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 2: we not have a duty as a civil society to

833
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 2: deal with that at large? Even if it's a bunch

834
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 2: of people you say are out of self control.

835
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 14: Well, what society can do is say, here's a hospital,

836
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 14: here's a rehabilitation clinic. You make the decision to go.

837
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 14: But we shouldn't force that person to go into that

838
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 14: rehabilitation clinic. So medical services should provided as part of

839
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 14: as an obligation of society, including free healthcare. However, in

840
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 14: the case of dance room fenandol, that's the victim's choice

841
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 14: to take that in illegal narcotic Okay.

842
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 2: I mean, look, if it feels good, do it. I've

843
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 2: heard it before. It's a very sixties vibe. Have fun.

844
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 2: It's your problem. The consequences I don't share it. I

845
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 2: appreciate the point of view. Merry Christmas, Alex. You know

846
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 2: one thing that we had this fascinating conversation with Alex

847
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 2: a minute ago who basically said that as far as

848
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 2: the free flow of drugs and narcotics into the country

849
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 2: across the border from drug boats or otherwise, if people

850
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 2: are here in consuming them, then we ought not be

851
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 2: involved in trying to stop it, And the first thing

852
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 2: that came to mind were the number of kids who

853
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 2: died from fentanyl. But then as I was thinking about

854
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 2: it during the break, the other thing that occurred to

855
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 2: me is what about the number of kids who were

856
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 2: exposed to drugs an illegal drugs and have no informed consent.

857
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Speaker 2: They're not of an age where they have any idea

858
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Speaker 2: really about what drugs are or whether it's dangerous, or

859
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Speaker 2: haven't been taught or don't know their addictive properties. Do

860
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Speaker 2: we have a responsibility to protect children from them? There's

861
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Speaker 2: a story at redline dot com. The Department of Justice

862
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Speaker 2: announced that a former top Drug Enforcement Agency official, interestingly

863
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Speaker 2: who retired near the end of the Obama administration, has

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Speaker 2: been indicted on multiple charges, including conspiracy to engage in

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Speaker 2: narco terrorism, money laundering, and conspiracy to distribute cocaine. DEA

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Speaker 2: administrator Terrence Cole and United States Attorney J. Clayton of

867
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Speaker 2: the Southern District of New York revealed that the indictment

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Speaker 2: of a guy called Paul Campo served as Deputy chief

869
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Speaker 2: of Financial Operations at the Drug Enforcement Agency and they

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Speaker 2: used him to get in touch with drug cartels. They're

871
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Speaker 2: serious about this inside the Trump administration. Upon taking office

872
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Speaker 2: on the twentieth of January, President Trump issued several executive

873
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Speaker 2: orders to address illegal immigration and border security, and then

874
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Speaker 2: went on to talk about the drug cartels. This story

875
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Speaker 2: does atreline dot com. Narco terrorists also funnel a tremendous

876
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Speaker 2: amount of money into enemy countries too. This is also

877
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Speaker 2: about a money supply explained earlier. It is not just

878
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Speaker 2: strictly about the drug consumption, all right, so that matters.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Christopher in California. Christopher, glad you called

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Speaker 2: good morning, Welcome in.

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Speaker 6: Hey, Chris, I'm a big fan. I been listening to

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Speaker 6: for about a year now. I just wanted to respectfully

883
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Speaker 6: disagree with I think his name is Alex.

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Speaker 14: I feel like.

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Speaker 6: The analogy that about the swore owner that doesn't lock

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Speaker 6: his own merchandise uff that I feel like he just

887
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Speaker 6: kind of contradicted him, because, I mean, that's exactly what

888
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Speaker 6: the president is basically doing. He's locking up, trying to

889
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Speaker 6: lock up the country from bad people come, bad actors

890
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Speaker 6: coming in, bad substances coming in. He basically said that.

891
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Speaker 6: But that's the soure owners problem that he doesn't lock

892
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Speaker 6: his own merchandise up. Well, that's exactly what the president

893
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Speaker 6: is trying to do. And like you said, there are

894
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Speaker 6: other things that we don't think about, you know, the

895
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Speaker 6: innocent kids that are being hurt because of being exposed

896
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Speaker 6: to this stuff, and you know, the inability to be

897
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Speaker 6: able to consent to you were given the analogy of well,

898
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Speaker 6: what if it's on an object, a dollar bill or

899
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Speaker 6: an aspirint. So I think the president's right on target

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Speaker 6: on trying to not facilitate that kind of activity coming into.

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Speaker 2: The counter, stopping the free flow of it for a

902
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Speaker 2: host of different reasons, the economic, the invasion of our border. Christopher,

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Speaker 2: thank you very much for that. I didn't even pick

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Speaker 2: up on that part ticular point, but it's a good one.

905
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Speaker 2: That's exactly what the president's doing. He's locking the store down,

906
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Speaker 2: he's locking our borders down. We shouldn't just sit I

907
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Speaker 2: mean that argument is basically, have wide open borders and

908
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Speaker 2: allow anything to freely flow in. I provide for the

909
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Speaker 2: common defense is one of the first chief tasks of

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Speaker 2: our elected officials. More a minute came across a really

911
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Speaker 2: interesting column over at town Hall. Our colleagues there, I

912
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Speaker 2: hope you're there regularly and bookmarked that website, by the way, fantastic.

913
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Speaker 2: I do some contribute there myself every now and again.

914
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Speaker 2: Larry O'Connor and I join and have conversations there, and

915
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Speaker 2: some of the smartest people you're ever going to read

916
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Speaker 2: right there and contribute there too, like our next guest,

917
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Speaker 2: doctor Jeffrey Degner, who wrote a piece headline boomers wanted grandkids,

918
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Speaker 2: the FED helped price them out of existence, Doctor Diagner.

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Speaker 11: Mary Christmas, Welcome to the show, sir Mary Christmas. To you, Chris,

920
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Speaker 11: thank you for having me.

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Speaker 2: Before we get into the specifics of this piece and

922
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Speaker 2: kind of talk a little little bit about what you do.

923
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Speaker 2: I wanted to talk broadly about the work at the

924
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Speaker 2: university where you teach, Cornerstone University, for people that don't

925
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Speaker 2: know it. I know it's always sort of assumed that

926
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Speaker 2: even if you try to homeschool your kids or put

927
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Speaker 2: them in a Christian school, you got to send them

928
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Speaker 2: off to someone doctrination factory in college, and that's the

929
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Speaker 2: only way forward. That's not true.

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Speaker 11: No, it's not true, And I'm happy to say here

931
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Speaker 11: at Cornerstone University in beautiful Grand Rabids Michigan that the faculty,

932
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Speaker 11: staff and leadership here are truly dedicated to delivering a

933
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Speaker 11: biblical worldview. That's not just tacking on a couple of

934
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Speaker 11: Bible versus at the end of every class session and

935
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Speaker 11: asking our students.

936
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Speaker 2: To be nice people out there.

937
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Speaker 11: It's a true integration of Biblical truth into all of

938
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Speaker 11: our areas of study. So I like to think of

939
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Speaker 11: my field economics, and I have been thinking about a

940
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Speaker 11: theology of economics which really starts with a Biblical view

941
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Speaker 11: of the human person as being an image bearer, and

942
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Speaker 11: that means that people have capacity to evaluate. And we've

943
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Speaker 11: also been called to hold dominion over the earth and

944
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Speaker 11: to exercise property rights, and that's something that we derive

945
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Speaker 11: from the scriptures, what God has to say about who

946
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Speaker 11: humans are and what our rights are. We don't buy

947
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Speaker 11: into the line that the rights are derived from government fiat,

948
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Speaker 11: but rather from our creator. And that's just one of

949
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Speaker 11: the foundational principles that a student and family who comes

950
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Speaker 11: to Cornerstone would find as a part of their educational experience,

951
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Speaker 11: alongside a great student life and vital chapel ministries and

952
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Speaker 11: discipleship that are happening here. So I'm very proud to

953
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Speaker 11: be a part of Cornerstone and what we've been able

954
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Speaker 11: to accomplish here in recent years under the leadership of

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Speaker 11: our President, doctor Jossan marine Rihanna.

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Speaker 2: It's wonderful. And as you teach economics specifically, and you're

957
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Speaker 2: the dean of the School of Business and Innovation there,

958
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Speaker 2: I think it's always interesting. How does one talk about

959
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Speaker 2: faith in terms of economics. I think people always assume

960
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Speaker 2: math is devoid of the spiritual right, how do you

961
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Speaker 2: talk about it?

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Speaker 11: Well, we start with what I just explained, really the

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Speaker 11: nature of the human person, and we want to approach

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Speaker 11: economics from the understanding that you really can't even study

965
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Speaker 11: economics or exchange or trade without a fundamental understanding of

966
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Speaker 11: property rights and of the human's ability to evaluate what

967
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Speaker 11: they prefer more or what they prefer less. And so

968
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Speaker 11: that's really the foundation of economics. But one of the

969
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Speaker 11: early principles that we also touch on, especially in our

970
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Speaker 11: macroeconomics courses or our courses on money and banking, is

971
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Speaker 11: the Biblical emphasis on equal weights and measures. And we

972
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Speaker 11: are currently living under a system of unequal weights and

973
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Speaker 11: measures that is really spawned by our federal reserve system

974
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Speaker 11: and its member banks, which are able to inflate really

975
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Speaker 11: for political purposes, and this has a very detrimental effect

976
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Speaker 11: on society as a whole. It of course steals purchasing power,

977
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Speaker 11: it harms people on fixed incomes, and in general creates

978
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Speaker 11: a culture of haste, consumerism and debt. And this is

979
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Speaker 11: not the kind of flourishing that I think the Lord

980
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Speaker 11: points us to as Christians. And unfortunately, family life suffers

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Speaker 11: under these conditions, and that's really one of the main

982
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Speaker 11: themes of my research. But we even have course a

983
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Speaker 11: course here at Cornerstone in family economics that examines how

984
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Speaker 11: all family life has been altered over the decades due

985
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Speaker 11: to inflationary FED policies. So that's an area of passion

986
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Speaker 11: for me. But it's one that Christian families are concerned

987
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Speaker 11: about for their own children and grandchildren, as the article noted,

988
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Speaker 11: grandchildren who have not yet come to fruition because of

989
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Speaker 11: these conditions.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Digner is again Jeffrey Degner is the professor and

991
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Speaker 2: dean at the School of Business and Innovation Economists as

992
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Speaker 2: well at Cornerstone University up there in Michigan. Talking with

993
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Speaker 2: Secretary McMahon, a Secretary of Education McMahon. One point seven

994
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Speaker 2: trillion dollars, yes, is what college grads are carrying around

995
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Speaker 2: right now in college debt. And not all of them grads,

996
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Speaker 2: by the way, some of them have didn't finish, but

997
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Speaker 2: one point seven trillion in college debt, Doctor Dagner, good grief.

998
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Speaker 11: This is putting a real drag on young people being

999
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Speaker 11: able to start their lives and launch their adulthood. And

1000
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Speaker 11: there's a sociologist that I've referred to a few times.

1001
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Speaker 11: His last name is Chairlyn, and he has talked about

1002
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Speaker 11: how over time that marriage has become a capstone experience

1003
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Speaker 11: of adult life, rather than not to play on the

1004
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Speaker 11: words of my university, but rather than a cornerstone of

1005
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Speaker 11: adult life. Really the launching point, and one of the

1006
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Speaker 11: reasons for ongoing marriage delays in the West and in

1007
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Speaker 11: the US specifically, is that younger people are carrying debt

1008
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Speaker 11: loads in their younger years that for prior generations would

1009
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Speaker 11: have been staggering and shameful at the same time. And

1010
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Speaker 11: so the student debt picture is just one of those

1011
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Speaker 11: debt categories that is causing young people to delay marriage

1012
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Speaker 11: further than they otherwise would. So this is a deep

1013
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Speaker 11: area of concern for me as I work with young

1014
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Speaker 11: people who have a desire to get married. It's not

1015
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Speaker 11: the case that they are eschewing family life, but there

1016
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Speaker 11: are very real economic obstacles facing them that are different

1017
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Speaker 11: than what it has been in the past.

1018
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Speaker 2: And this is part of what you're talking about when

1019
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Speaker 2: you say the FED has helped price grandchildren for the

1020
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Speaker 2: boomer generation that wants grandkids and their kids aren't giving

1021
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Speaker 2: them grandkids. This is but one of the examples why.

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Speaker 11: And the FED some of the colloquial languages that they

1023
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Speaker 11: have a money printer and so on. It's a little

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Speaker 11: more technical than that, but the essence of what's happened

1025
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Speaker 11: here is a massive expansion of credit, and that happens

1026
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Speaker 11: through the banking system, which of course the FED overseas

1027
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Speaker 11: and encourages this sort of behavior by targeting suppressed interest rates,

1028
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Speaker 11: so banks will tend to offer more loans and you'll

1029
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Speaker 11: have more willing recipients to take them out as car loans,

1030
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Speaker 11: credit card debt, and of course the infamous student loans,

1031
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Speaker 11: and all of these things are creating a debt culture

1032
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Speaker 11: that delays me marriage.

1033
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Speaker 2: And makes.

1034
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Speaker 11: Makes looking at the future a little more difficult because

1035
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Speaker 11: we're having to continually service our debts as a main priority.

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Speaker 2: For instance, I interrupt you if anybody knows, if anybody

1037
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Speaker 2: knows anything about this, you know, if you do a

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Speaker 2: I don't know, take out a car loan, for instance.

1039
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Speaker 2: I was stunned to learn that car financing now will

1040
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Speaker 2: extend out what like, I mean more than a decade

1041
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Speaker 2: in some cases. I mean you you can take out

1042
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Speaker 2: loans that just go on in perpetuity for home improvement

1043
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Speaker 2: projects or cars or anything. Is that your point? Sure?

1044
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Speaker 11: And this this really changes us to that debt any

1045
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Speaker 11: longer timeframe. And this I think, frankly with some of

1046
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Speaker 11: the pushback against the idea that the President and others

1047
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Speaker 11: floated a few weeks back about a fifty year mortgage

1048
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Speaker 11: again extending debt in perpetuity really for your entire life.

1049
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Speaker 11: And so this, this debt culture is something that is

1050
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Speaker 11: challengeing family life in ways that we have not seen

1051
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Speaker 11: in the West.

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Speaker 2: What can be done about it? I know, with two

1053
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Speaker 2: minutes it's probably a little difficult to answer, But what

1054
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Speaker 2: do you think is the best course of action policy

1055
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Speaker 2: wise to reverse course here? And do you like Besson,

1056
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Speaker 2: the Treasury Secretary and the President. Economically speaking going.

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Speaker 11: Forward, well, one of my main concerns really is what

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Speaker 11: the President will do with respect to FED leadership, And

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Speaker 11: I do have concerns if we're going to see more

1060
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Speaker 11: of an inflationary sort of FED share come into that office,

1061
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Speaker 11: and so that debt culture is a main concern. But

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Speaker 11: I think one of the first steps that can be

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Speaker 11: taken is for Congress to frankly grow a little bit

1064
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Speaker 11: of a backbone and exercise its oversight over the FED.

1065
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Speaker 11: And in the case of housing, which was one of

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Speaker 11: the main points in the article, is to get the

1067
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Speaker 11: FED out of the housing game because they actually hold

1068
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Speaker 11: two trillion dollars in mortgage back securities and that has

1069
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Speaker 11: the effect of keeping and propping up higher and higher

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Speaker 11: home prices. Now, that benefits current homeowners, but it tends

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Speaker 11: to block out younger would be owners. And now the

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Speaker 11: average age of a first time home buyer is forty

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Speaker 11: years old. That's a staggering statistic that again is a

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Speaker 11: challenge to our younger generations, a challenge to family formation

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Speaker 11: and certainly to fertility rates among those households. So that

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Speaker 11: would be one policy measure I think that Congress could

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Speaker 11: move on quickly is to prohibit the FED from purchasing

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Speaker 11: mortgage backed securities, and we'll see a little more sanity

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Speaker 11: restored to the housing market and then to family life.

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Speaker 2: I think doctor Digner, it is a real pleasure to

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Speaker 2: make your acquaintance. I hope we can continue to lean

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Speaker 2: on you in twenty twenty six. You're a great thinker, obviously,

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Speaker 2: and you've written a really smart piece that I hope

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Speaker 2: people read. Boomers wanted grandkids, the FED helped price them

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Speaker 2: out of existence. You can find that at town hall

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Speaker 2: dot com and doctor Jeffrey Digner is at Cornerstone University

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Speaker 2: online on X at Cornerstone you we'll have you back, sir.

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Speaker 2: Merry Christmas to you. Thanks for your time.

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Speaker 11: We'd love to join you again, and Merry Christmas to you.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I saw a really interesting piece in

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Speaker 2: USA Today which I think kind of turns the whole

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Speaker 2: narrative on its head about young people and why Scott

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Speaker 2: Bessant remember the thousand dollars investment, the sort of Trump

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Speaker 2: baby bond, if you will. It's been a rough ride

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Speaker 2: for many parents, they write at USA today this year,

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Speaker 2: with job losses and inflation that won't go away. But

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Speaker 2: amid all that, kids have been the bright spot. According

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Speaker 2: to green Lights Family Money app, in twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 2: kids and teens up to age seventeen invested more than

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Speaker 2: seventy million dollars in this app. That's up sixty five

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Speaker 2: percent from last year, doubling their automated investments. And the

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Speaker 2: average age among this app green Lights Investor average age.

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Speaker 2: You want to take a guest ed, it's the average

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Speaker 2: age of kids that start investing with this app. Average age.

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Speaker 2: Oh jeez, eleven exactly right, twelve twelve years old. So

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Speaker 2: I'm just telling you there's another generation coming on that

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Speaker 2: wants the free market to work. That's great news. Okay,

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Speaker 2: thank you. Our telephone number is eight five five stigall

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Speaker 2: if you want to get in here, thrilled to have

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Speaker 2: you along. I look at Paris, the streets of Paris

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Speaker 2: on Christmas always pretty from a distance. I've been once.

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Speaker 2: That's enough, thank you, eight five five Stagall to get here.

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Speaker 2: Come on in, by the way, May I say very

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Speaker 2: quickly thank you A thousand thank yous to this audience

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Speaker 2: so far for what you've done. We're getting there with

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Speaker 2: our angel Tree campaign. I cannot say thank you enough

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Speaker 2: I've been praying over this because I set an ambitious

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Speaker 2: goal with the Fellowship folks that I really want to

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Speaker 2: hit for these kids. And I know this audience does

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Speaker 2: to twenty six hundred kids. That's what we're trying to

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Speaker 2: achieve here. And look, we've got effectively a week left.

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Speaker 2: I know we've got more time than that before Christmas,

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Speaker 2: but I'm calling it next week. By a week from tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: I'd really like to be there. And the good news

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Speaker 2: is we're halfway home. What am I talking about If

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Speaker 2: you're new to this and you don't know, I'm talking

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Speaker 2: about this ministry that does amazing things for children whose

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Speaker 2: parents have screwed up. Okay, I stipulate. I had a

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Speaker 2: caller earlier, you know, talking about self control and whatnot.

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Speaker 2: This is not about saying or suggesting that people who

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Speaker 2: have gone to prison are being punished for something ought

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Speaker 2: not be in prison and punished. This is about having

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Speaker 2: the grace to know that many of them may be

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Speaker 2: punished and want to return to their homes and their

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Speaker 2: family life, and meanwhile they have a child or children

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Speaker 2: at home who are wondering if their parents even thinking

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Speaker 2: about them. Now. I don't know how you can look

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Speaker 2: at a child who has a parent who's incarcerated and

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Speaker 2: think that they deserve anything but a happy Christmas. It

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Speaker 2: breaks a cycle. We know statistically it breaks a cycle

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Speaker 2: of violence if you get involved. And the way the

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Speaker 2: Prison Fellowship people get involved is not just making sure

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Speaker 2: a gift ends up in the hands of these kids,

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Speaker 2: but also a note from their parent. This is the

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Speaker 2: coolest thing. Someone who's incarcerated has no means to get

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Speaker 2: a gift to their kid and let the kid know

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Speaker 2: they're thinking of them. But that's what Prison Fellowship does.

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Speaker 2: So we're talking about people who really, you know, they

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Speaker 2: want to we want to extend them grace because they

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Speaker 2: want to have a relationship with their child. After the fact,

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Speaker 2: they're paying for whatever it is they may have done fine,

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Speaker 2: but this child gets a gift and a note from

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Speaker 2: their parent that says, I'm thinking about you. Merry Christmas.

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Speaker 2: But here's the most important part. A Bible comes along

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Speaker 2: with that gift. You're introducing the Gospel to children in

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Speaker 2: a home maybe that has never seen anything like it before,

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Speaker 2: and it could change fundamentally the entire trajectory of that

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Speaker 2: child's life. It well could. That's all we're called to

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Speaker 2: do scripturally is plant the seed. So look, if you

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Speaker 2: can help me, listen to what this does. Here's a

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Speaker 2: prison fellowship volunteer, her name is Stacy Campbell, and she

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Speaker 2: tells about what donors like you can mean to this effort. Listen.

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Speaker 15: And it was a little boy answered the door and

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Speaker 15: I said, oh, here's a gift from your dad, and

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Speaker 15: it was just as oh, he remembered me. And I

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Speaker 15: think the whole gift kind of fades into the background.

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Speaker 15: It's that connection and that realization that I belong and

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Speaker 15: my friends are having Christmas, but I'm having Christmas too.

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Speaker 15: I'm worthy as a little kid.

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Speaker 8: And that's the part that doesn't leave you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is not about the parent. This is not

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Speaker 2: about the incarcerated parent. I had some people say, you know,

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Speaker 2: when I first heard you talking about this, I was like,

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Speaker 2: I don't no prisoners. What the hell are you helping prisoners? No,

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Speaker 2: it's children of prisoners. And by the way, again, it's

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Speaker 2: not for nothing. But I don't know about you. I

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Speaker 2: just met a guy last weekend who spent a few

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Speaker 2: years in prison for a drug issue. He is now clean,

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Speaker 2: newly baptized, and a tremendous father and brother in Christ.

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Speaker 2: Just talk to this guy last week. So this is

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Speaker 2: not about people being irredeemable, of course, but this is

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Speaker 2: about their children who deserve to have a great Christmas.

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Speaker 2: And I know this audience wants to help. And thirty

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Speaker 2: dollars gets this done. A thirty dollars donation. Now, look,

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Speaker 2: we're halfway home. Can you help? Can you help us

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Speaker 2: get across the finish line by next week? Christigall dot com.

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Speaker 2: There's a banner there at the website. It's right at

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Speaker 2: the top christigall dot com. Some people have a pop

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Speaker 2: up blocker problem. I'm sorry about that if you do.

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Speaker 2: But it's christigall dot com all right, or you can

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Speaker 2: go to right ed it's angel Give me the other

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Speaker 2: web web address if people want to type it in directly.

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Speaker 7: Oh angeltree dot org, slash Chris, angeltree dot or.

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Speaker 2: Angel slash, angeltree dot org slash Chris. Thank you very

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Speaker 2: much for that, angelree dot org or slash cris if

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Speaker 2: you want to give that way, or you can call

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Speaker 2: today and here's the number eight eight eight two zero

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Speaker 2: six twenty seven ninety four. And look, I know there

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Speaker 2: are some of you that like, oh, Stickgall, would you quit?

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Speaker 2: I can't because I've made a commitment. I've made a

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Speaker 2: commitment to these folks and I know that this audience

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Speaker 2: is going to come through. I'm I've and by the way,

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Speaker 2: the sooner I get to these twenty six hundred kids,

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Speaker 2: the sooner i'll I'll shut up about it. But I

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Speaker 2: can't because this time of year, right, you have a

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Speaker 2: heart for kids. This time of year, more than anything else,

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Speaker 2: is about precious kids enjoying the season and hopefully no

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Speaker 2: it knowing the love of the Lord. And that's what

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Speaker 2: Prison Fellowship does. It's such a pleasure to be affiliated

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Speaker 2: with them. Chris Stigall dot com or eight eight eight

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Speaker 2: two zero six twenty seven ninety four eight eight eight

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Speaker 2: to zero six twenty seven ninety four, and thanks in

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Speaker 2: advance for what you do. You heard me earlier this year,

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Speaker 2: I hope, talking about our partnership with Prison Fellowship, the

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Speaker 2: non for profit Christian organization that helps kids who have

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Speaker 2: incarcerated parents enjoy a little fresh air and fun out

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01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 2: in the open outdoors during summer camp. Well, they do

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Speaker 2: great work at Christmas time too, and we're proud to

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Speaker 2: partner with them again in what they call their Angel

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Speaker 2: Tree Christmas campaign. You know, there are thousands of kids

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Speaker 2: all over the country, through no fault of their own,

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Speaker 2: who see one or maybe even both of their parents

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Speaker 2: incarcerated this time of year. And what a what a

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Speaker 2: tough thing that is. You know, a child should be

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Speaker 2: enjoying the Christmas season, and with something that heavy in

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Speaker 2: their home, it's often difficult to do. What I love

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Speaker 2: about prison Fellowship is and what is so cool about

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Speaker 2: what Angel Tree does. They take a thirty dollars donation

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Speaker 2: that you give and they can turn that into a

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Speaker 2: gift for a young person who may be struggling this Christmas.

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Speaker 2: And best of all, it's not just a gift, it's

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Speaker 2: a handwritten note from their parent who happens to be incarcerated,

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Speaker 2: and most importantly, the gospel message they hear the truth

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Speaker 2: of Jesus this time of year. That's a thirty dollars

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Speaker 2: gift from you to a child who could really use

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Speaker 2: some joy this Christmas. So I hope you'll join me,

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Speaker 2: And there are a couple of ways to do it.

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Speaker 2: If this is something that's important to you or interesting

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Speaker 2: to you, or you think you know I've been blessed,

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Speaker 2: I'd like to be a blessing thirty bucks gets it

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Speaker 2: done for one child one hundred and fifty bucks. You've

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Speaker 2: impacted five kids and their Christmas with a handwritten note

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Speaker 2: from their parents as well as the gospel message of Jesus.

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Speaker 2: It's one of the most important things we do all

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Speaker 2: year as far as I'm concerned here on the show,

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Speaker 2: and you can get involved by going to Christigall dot

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Speaker 2: com and click on the banner at the top of

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Speaker 2: my page christigall dot com. Click on the banner and

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Speaker 2: give whatever you feel you can, or you can call

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Speaker 2: the Angel Tree Christmas campaign with our friends at Prison Fellowship.

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Speaker 2: in to this Thursday edition of The Stagall Show. Merry

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Speaker 2: Christmas to you. I hope you're doing well out there

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Speaker 2: watching them skating in Rockefeller Center. Great scene. I've done

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Speaker 2: that exactly once. Not Ice skated, I mean I've done

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Speaker 2: that more than a couple of times, but been there

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Speaker 2: in Rockefeller Center. There is something really nice about that

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Speaker 2: particular place, with the giant Rockefeller Center Christmas tree towering overhead.

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Speaker 2: While you're skating, they're playing the music down there, a

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Speaker 2: little hot chocolate. It just feels Christmas. You get a

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Speaker 2: little snowfall. It's quintessential Christmas. Before in islamis takes it over. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: Welcome in and sorry on that note. Eight five five

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Speaker 2: to call is that you get here, You can go

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Speaker 2: to christigall dot com and find everything that you need

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Speaker 2: the podcast episodes that you either missed or interviews that

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Speaker 2: you want to hear. I get emails regularly who was

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Speaker 2: that guy that it's always at the podcast always, So

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Speaker 2: go to christigall dot com. We've often got video of

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Speaker 2: it there if you don't watch us on the Salem

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Speaker 2: News Channel. But the podcast audibly is always available and

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Speaker 2: you should subscribe again. All complimentary and the Harump Society

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Speaker 2: is complimentary this entire month. If you missed that announcement earlier.

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Speaker 2: Every post that I make Monday, Wednesday, Friday, starting yesterday,

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Speaker 2: for the next couple of weeks, I'm going to open

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Speaker 2: it up to everybody, and I'm doing that with the

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Speaker 2: hope that we're going to continue to stimulate the giving

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Speaker 2: to our Prison Fellowship campaign. More on that than a

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Speaker 2: little bit, but christigall dot com for everything you need.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm not going to spend a ton of

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Speaker 2: time on this, but I am going to address it

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Speaker 2: only because it seemed to be that we're talking about

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Speaker 2: the fifteenth. I think this number fifteenth, that's a Monday,

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Speaker 2: if memory serves on the calendar, that's when the turning

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Speaker 2: point USA people feel that they're going to have to

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Speaker 2: sit down and address all of the allegations that have

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Speaker 2: been hurled at them viciously by lunatics who are rage

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Speaker 2: baiting and revelation. You know what I've been saying, the

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Speaker 2: revelation addiction that they're trying to feed. There is an

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Speaker 2: audience for it. People are just just hungry for conspiracy

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Speaker 2: and secrets that only that host of that particular show knows.

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Speaker 2: No solutions again, nothing edifying, nothing uplifting, not offering anything,

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Speaker 2: just constant question asking and conspiracy that has led to

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Speaker 2: quite frankly bastardizing the legacy of Charlie Kirk and attacking

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Speaker 2: his widow and by extension, really his parents. So Erica

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Speaker 2: Kirk now head's turning point, as you know. And she's

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Speaker 2: more or less stayed out of this, done some ceremonial

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Speaker 2: things and given a couple of interviews here and there.

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Speaker 2: But now she's decided to hit the media circuit and

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Speaker 2: she's gone on tour to speak to these allegations of

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Speaker 2: cover ups or whatever the hell's being alleged. I really

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Speaker 2: don't even want to dignify all the different things all

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Speaker 2: I ever get when I bring this up, or notes

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Speaker 2: from people that say, have you listened to all the

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Speaker 2: questions that are being asked? No, I don't need to,

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Speaker 2: because you know what, I could sit here and do

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Speaker 2: an entire show on questions, like I could just make

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Speaker 2: up questions. Is that a show? Because if that qualifies

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Speaker 2: as entertainment, I really should start looking at it. Hey,

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Speaker 2: here's a question tune in tomorrow, and I have a

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Speaker 2: whole new list of questions. What's the solution, what's the answer?

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Speaker 2: Are there answers or answers ever given?

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Speaker 11: No?

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Speaker 2: Does anybody care? No, just keep asking the questions. So

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Speaker 2: poor Erica is now forced as the leader of this organization,

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Speaker 2: who's got a lot of employees who are now just

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Speaker 2: taking all kinds of incoming. She's now got to go

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Speaker 2: out and do this. And so here we go Number

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Speaker 2: fifty three.

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Speaker 3: We will be building the most beautiful memorial for my

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Speaker 3: husband at Turning Point, USA, and it will be for

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Speaker 3: the world to see, and it will be spectacular, and

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Speaker 3: it will have a basically museum style for our Charlie

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Speaker 3: from my Charlie. But can I have one thing? Can

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Speaker 3: my babies have one thing where we hold it sacred,

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Speaker 3: where my husband is laid to rest, where I don't

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Speaker 3: have to be worried about some secular revolutionary coming and

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Speaker 3: destroying my husband's grave. Well, my daughter is sitting there

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Speaker 3: praying one thing. This is my husband. Yes, he was

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Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk to the world. And I know so many

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Speaker 3: people love my husband, and I am grateful for that,

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Speaker 3: But this is my husband, and I want to be

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Speaker 3: able to have one thing left that is sacred to

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Speaker 3: our family, to my in laws, to my babies, and

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Speaker 3: to my parents.

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Speaker 2: One thing. What are they taking from you right now? Nothing?

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Speaker 3: But I will tell you what they are doing. It

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Speaker 3: reminds me so much of Chapter six in the Book

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Speaker 3: of Nehemiah. He is building a wall, and the townspeople

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Speaker 3: are at the base of that hill, saying, Nehemiah calling

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Speaker 3: them all these names, saying all these things, come on down.

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Speaker 3: Every single time he had the same message, four times

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Speaker 3: in a row. I cannot come down. I am busy building.

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Speaker 3: That is how I feel. I do not have time

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Speaker 3: to address the noise. My silence does not mean that

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Speaker 3: I am complacent. My silence does not mean that somehow

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Speaker 3: turning point Usa and all of the hand pit staff

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Speaker 3: that loved my husband and my husband loved them is somehow.

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Speaker 14: In on it.

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Speaker 3: We are busy building. And you know what I thought.

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Speaker 3: I thought these people are human.

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Speaker 2: I here again, it's sort of impossible. It's impossible. I

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Speaker 2: can't even imagine this in the most creative way I could.

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine wife being murdered. And as a public person,

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Speaker 2: podcasters and the like start building shows off of theories

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Speaker 2: that I or people affiliated with me strategized my wife's

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Speaker 2: murder Eddie. I mean, I'm not sure how your wife

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Speaker 2: has killed God forbid? And then people start saying I

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Speaker 2: think Eddie killed her on podcasts with absolutely no you know,

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Speaker 2: and then when you say, I beg your pardon, where

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Speaker 2: would you get that? I'm just asking questions. It's content now.

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Speaker 7: It's disappointing, Chris. And the worst part is is that

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Speaker 7: that content's rewarded. I would never think, you know, producing

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Speaker 7: for you all these years and the shows that we do,

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Speaker 7: I would never think to use someone's death to you know,

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Speaker 7: increase our reach, you know, put out a message.

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Speaker 2: That's that's all it is. What is Eddie? That's exactly right,

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Speaker 2: That's all it is. And I hope, I hope you

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Speaker 2: people that send me messages like they're just asking questions,

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Speaker 2: I hope you understand what a useful idiot you're being.

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Speaker 2: All you're doing. These are perfect strangers to you. Your

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Speaker 2: investment in their lives, frankly my life. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: love you, I'm glad you're here, but you and I,

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Speaker 2: many of us don't know one another personally. I like

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Speaker 2: to earn your trust I'd like to think you end

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Speaker 2: up coming to enjoy the show and liking me, but

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Speaker 2: you don't know my head and heart every day. We

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Speaker 2: don't have a personal friendship necessarily. I mean, I would

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Speaker 2: love to befriend as many of you as possible someday,

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Speaker 2: and I hope over the years you get to know

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Speaker 2: me well and trust the show. But the thing is,

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Speaker 2: these people, Candice On, Frankly Tucker and so many others

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Speaker 2: like them. Do you think they go home and think

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Speaker 2: a whit about you? Do you think they care about

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Speaker 2: the betterment or the direction of the country or that

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Speaker 2: Do they just care about saying sensational things to get

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Speaker 2: their show's clicks, Because that's their business model, folks, And

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Speaker 2: if you misunderstand this, you're duped. This is a business model,

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Speaker 2: pure and simple, and you're being used for a business.

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Speaker 2: The clicks and the downloads and the listeners are revenue. Now,

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Speaker 2: it's true, that's the same business I'm in, But I'll

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Speaker 2: be damned if I'm going to use a widow and

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Speaker 2: the murder of a man to do it. I'm not

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Speaker 2: doing it. The country is facing too many problems. We

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Speaker 2: as a culture are facing too many problems. There are

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Speaker 2: real things before us that we can prove, and we

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Speaker 2: can debate, and we can discuss. I will not use

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Speaker 2: a widow's grief to boost my download numbers, and shame

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Speaker 2: on anyone who would. And I tell you I know

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Speaker 2: this is true because on the same day that Erica

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Speaker 2: has decided that she goes out and talks, talks to

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Speaker 2: the media and has to address this stuff, which is unthinkable.

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Speaker 2: Two months after her husband's murdered, and she now has

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Speaker 2: to go on a media tour explaining she did anything

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Speaker 2: to do with murdering him. I can't believe we're here.

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Speaker 2: But that's the power these people have because they have

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Speaker 2: a bunch of people listening to them, hooked on them again,

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Speaker 2: like Netflix Revelation Addiction as I've named it, tuning in

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Speaker 2: for the next episode. She goes on this media blitz

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Speaker 2: and Shazam, wouldn't you know it? Tucker comes out yesterday

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Speaker 2: talking to the camera and decides, you know, I haven't

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Speaker 2: said much about Charlie's murder and the questions surrounding it,

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Speaker 2: but I think now's a good time to start. Interesting timing,

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Speaker 2: isn't it. Ed The same day Eric has decided to

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Speaker 2: start defending herself in the organization. He's decided to help

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Speaker 2: Candace go down the I'm just asking questions. Route Shame

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Speaker 2: on these people, Shame on them. You cannot be this

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Speaker 2: man's friend and behave this way. You just can't. You

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Speaker 2: cannot exploit the murder of man and drag his family

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Speaker 2: and his widow through this and call yourself a friend.

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Speaker 2: We all know what you're doing. You are in a

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Speaker 2: cynical download and click business, That's what you're doing. You

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Speaker 2: don't give an excrement about the kirk family. You don't

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Speaker 2: care about Charlie or his legacy. You don't care about

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Speaker 2: the future of the country. You openly say you don't

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Speaker 2: care about who runs Congress anymore. You're a burn it

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Speaker 2: all down crowd and if you can get clicks and

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Speaker 2: count your money while you're doing it, that's all you care.

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Speaker 2: But I'll say this much, as I said yesterday on

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Speaker 2: social media. If the widow of Charlie and Charlie's parents

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Speaker 2: aren't running around screaming about cover ups, if they're confident

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Speaker 2: that this is being investigated and prosecuted competently and adequately,

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Speaker 2: who the hell is anyone you, me, or any of

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Speaker 2: these people pretending to have the real secret behind the story.

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Speaker 2: Who are any of us to question it. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to follow the direction of his widow and his parents.

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Speaker 2: If they say there's a problem, then I'll come here

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Speaker 2: and address it. Otherwise I follow their lead. Great to

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Speaker 2: be with you. Looking at Christmas time in Italy. On

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Speaker 2: the Salem News Channel, we have cameras all over the

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Speaker 2: place roving about. Take a look at it. If you

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Speaker 2: haven't watched the Salem News Channel, I hope that you will.

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Speaker 2: I still haven't. I might have to open the phones

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Speaker 2: for some television purchase recommendations because I'm starting to get overwhelmed.

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Speaker 2: I go into different stores to look at them. I'm

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Speaker 2: still looking at walls of televisions trying to figure out

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Speaker 2: which one to buy, and everyone's got an opinion and

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Speaker 2: I'm just not sure. Again, I want one of those

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Speaker 2: Samsung TVs with the Samsung TV Plus speachure so that

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Speaker 2: we can keep the Salem News Channel on at the house,

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Speaker 2: But I don't know which Samsung product to buy. Ed

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Speaker 2: I'm a little tortured by it. Now. I thought you

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Speaker 2: did take a liking to the anti glare. I did, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I did that, stupid guy I got in my head

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Speaker 2: calling it stupid, and now I feel like I've wasted

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Speaker 2: my time or something like I shouldn't waste my money.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I feel like Chris, we watched the NFL what some

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Speaker 7: news right Salem News Channel. I feel like you don't

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Speaker 7: need this guy in particular said true black if that's

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Speaker 7: really important to you, Okay, but I don't think you're

1489
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Speaker 7: a true black guy. I think you're like, just give

1490
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 7: me a darn good picture and a great deal.

1491
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:30,280
Speaker 2: You're right, it's it's pretty much news, maybe some football

1492
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:32,600
Speaker 2: and Family Guy reruns. That's about the sum total of

1493
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:36,760
Speaker 2: my television watching. Otherwise, I try to try to do

1494
01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:39,559
Speaker 2: other more productive things, so I probably don't need the

1495
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 2: hyphalutant nonsense that he recommends. Let's go to maybe in Ohio. Hey,

1496
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:46,599
Speaker 2: maybe I'm glad you called good.

1497
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Speaker 4: Morning, Good morning. I've been off the grid for because

1498
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:58,719
Speaker 4: it's advent and I heard this morning. Erica Kirk is amazing.

1499
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 14: I was.

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01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 4: I was in tears watching her at that especial event

1501
01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:10,720
Speaker 4: after Charlie's murder. But whatever has gotten into Candace Owens

1502
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 4: and Tucker Carlton, Chris, all I can say is they

1503
01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 4: have allowed themselves to be taken over by Satan and

1504
01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 4: his minions. They are just dark hearted, they're sick. They

1505
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:26,559
Speaker 4: I don't know what else to say, and I'm holding

1506
01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:30,760
Speaker 4: back Tiers. I feel so badly for Erica and her

1507
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:34,640
Speaker 4: family that she has to fight off these They're just

1508
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:37,240
Speaker 4: they're sick. That's all I can say. Chris, I feel

1509
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:41,800
Speaker 4: so badly for her. But that's I think it for

1510
01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:43,760
Speaker 4: playing that I've been off to Grant. Like I said,

1511
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:44,920
Speaker 4: it's advent tonight.

1512
01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're better for it. Maybe that's where you should

1513
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:51,679
Speaker 2: spend your time, truly, and I hear your passion. Look,

1514
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:55,520
Speaker 2: I don't know. Here's the thing. There's such a personality,

1515
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 2: a cult of personality investment now in Tucker and Kansas.

1516
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:02,320
Speaker 2: I find that strange. I mean, I mean, I would want

1517
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:06,519
Speaker 2: that this audience. I love you, I love that you're here.

1518
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:08,840
Speaker 2: I would want that you trust the show and enjoy

1519
01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:10,920
Speaker 2: the show, and to the extent that we know on

1520
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:14,600
Speaker 2: another that you I don't know if the word is

1521
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 2: care about Maybe that's too strong a word, but I

1522
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:21,240
Speaker 2: hope you enjoy it. I miss when I'm not here

1523
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 2: with you. But the level of investment by some in

1524
01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 2: the personalities and the people of Tucker and Candace is

1525
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 2: alarming to me. It's weird. It's become cultish, like you

1526
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:39,840
Speaker 2: would want people to be as invested in the Lord

1527
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 2: and Savior Jesus Christ as invested as some of them

1528
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:45,439
Speaker 2: are in Tucker and Candace. And I don't say that.

1529
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:47,040
Speaker 2: I can hear it right now. Oh, you're just jealous.

1530
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 2: To God, No, I'm not. God bless America. This is

1531
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:52,400
Speaker 2: a competitive business. It always has been. I totally understand it.

1532
01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 2: But because I understand it, I also understand the levels

1533
01:25:57,400 --> 01:26:00,920
Speaker 2: people will go to to keep people hooked on their shows.

1534
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:05,600
Speaker 2: And when you know you have a president that's on

1535
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:09,920
Speaker 2: offense and you have a Republican Congress, and people aren't

1536
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:13,360
Speaker 2: particularly interested in discussing that. They want the conflict. They

1537
01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 2: want the juice of the conflict. They want the revelation, addiction,

1538
01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:21,080
Speaker 2: they want the hit. They're people willing to feed it.

1539
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:25,000
Speaker 2: I don't know what motivates it, but I guess it's

1540
01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:28,200
Speaker 2: the wallet. When it comes to Cabinet secretary is under

1541
01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:32,240
Speaker 2: President Donald Trump, this one probably one of our favorites.

1542
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:35,599
Speaker 2: It's hard to choose. I mean, look, whenever she shows

1543
01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 2: up on the stump people rave about her just as

1544
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:39,840
Speaker 2: much as they went crazy for Bessent this week. She's

1545
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 2: a star in her own right. She's Lynda McMahon, Secretary

1546
01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 2: of Education and joins us together this morning, Madam's Secretary.

1547
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 2: Good to have you back.

1548
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:49,559
Speaker 8: Thank you so much, Chris, it's good to be back.

1549
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 8: Normally when I'm talking to you, I'm on the road,

1550
01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 8: but I happen to be sitting in my office this morning.

1551
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:57,839
Speaker 2: Listen. I don't want to. You come from the background

1552
01:26:57,880 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 2: of show, so you appreciate this. I don't want to.

1553
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:02,080
Speaker 2: I don't want to stoke any friendly rivalry here. But

1554
01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:04,600
Speaker 2: did you see the reception Bessent got this week on

1555
01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:05,960
Speaker 2: the stump in Pennsylvania.

1556
01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:10,080
Speaker 8: I know he's awesome. He should get standing o's everywhere

1557
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:10,439
Speaker 8: he goes.

1558
01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:14,280
Speaker 2: I love it. I just you know you deserve them too,

1559
01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:16,360
Speaker 2: because what you guys are doing at the Department of

1560
01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:18,720
Speaker 2: Ed I'm telling you education is going to be the

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01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:20,719
Speaker 2: way to save kids in the future of this country.

1562
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:22,800
Speaker 2: So I just don't I don't want him overshadowing you.

1563
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:26,559
Speaker 8: He won't, I tell you. And the President also, I

1564
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:30,960
Speaker 8: believe one of Donald Trump's main accomplishment self when he

1565
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:33,639
Speaker 8: has finished this term will be that he will also

1566
01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 8: be known as the education President. He is so devoted

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01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:39,360
Speaker 8: to making sure that our kids get the best education

1568
01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:42,759
Speaker 8: in the country that it's not focused and centered in Washington,

1569
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:45,559
Speaker 8: d C. That is in their states, closest to their

1570
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:49,880
Speaker 8: parents and their teachers, and because that's where education needs

1571
01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:55,240
Speaker 8: to be, curriculum developed for communities and states. He's just

1572
01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 8: clearly on the right track to raise the level of

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01:27:58,080 --> 01:27:59,400
Speaker 8: education across the country.

1574
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 2: Am I being Pollyanna and overly optimistic here? Or am

1575
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:07,800
Speaker 2: I interpreting that the hard left and the teacher union

1576
01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:10,480
Speaker 2: types have kind of laid down their arms and acquiesced

1577
01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 2: and realized that the public is no longer with them

1578
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:17,280
Speaker 2: on this issue of command and control centralized education. It doesn't.

1579
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:21,160
Speaker 2: I remember there was great consternation early in President Trump's

1580
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:23,120
Speaker 2: first term here in the first of the year, with

1581
01:28:23,200 --> 01:28:25,720
Speaker 2: you guys making cuts at the at the Department of Ed.

1582
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:28,560
Speaker 2: But it seems to have gone away. That's my impression.

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01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:29,080
Speaker 2: Am I wrong?

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01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:34,880
Speaker 8: Well, for now there isn't as much for you and

1585
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:39,320
Speaker 8: cry against what we're doing. I think because the issue

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01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:43,519
Speaker 8: of school choice, and let me digress. I think the

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01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:47,000
Speaker 8: very first thing when the President basically was sworn in

1588
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:49,960
Speaker 8: was the fact that we got our NATE scores, which

1589
01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:53,519
Speaker 8: are the national report card scores for our eighth grade

1590
01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:56,720
Speaker 8: and fourth graders, and the fact that only, you know,

1591
01:28:56,800 --> 01:29:01,720
Speaker 8: thirty percent of them could read proficiently. It was just

1592
01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:05,719
Speaker 8: such a bell ringer moment to know how far down

1593
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:09,560
Speaker 8: education was in our country, and the President just launched

1594
01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:15,240
Speaker 8: into this program of this is not acceptable. We cannot

1595
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:18,439
Speaker 8: be seen not only what we see across the country,

1596
01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:23,439
Speaker 8: but also where we fall on international rankings in terms

1597
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:27,040
Speaker 8: of our education. We're doing something definitely wrong and it

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01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 8: has to stop and it has change. And I think

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01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:33,880
Speaker 8: there's very little argument at this point from teachers' perspectives,

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01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:36,960
Speaker 8: because I'll tell you, teachers, I believe, I think teachers

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01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:39,800
Speaker 8: the most noble profession we have in our country, and

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01:29:39,840 --> 01:29:42,599
Speaker 8: I believe that our teachers want to be allowed to teach.

1603
01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:46,400
Speaker 8: When they are allowed to teach their innovative in their classrooms,

1604
01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 8: they're interacting with their students, they're not teaching to test,

1605
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 8: they're not teaching to a bureaucratic curriculum that might have

1606
01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:58,760
Speaker 8: been tried to be dictated on a national basis, and

1607
01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:01,840
Speaker 8: all of that boat it's well for our students.

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01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:07,599
Speaker 2: Secretary Linda McMahon of Education joins us this morning, let

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01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 2: me pivot to the student loan issue. Obviously, there are

1610
01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:13,000
Speaker 2: a lot of people battling with them. I think there

1611
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:14,360
Speaker 2: are a lot of people, frankly, that look in the

1612
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:16,759
Speaker 2: rearview mirror of taking out tens of thousands of dollars

1613
01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:20,240
Speaker 2: and wishing they hadn't for degrees that haven't really proved fruitful.

1614
01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:23,439
Speaker 2: What would you tell someone today, I have two sons,

1615
01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:26,280
Speaker 2: one's twenty, one's nineteen. One's going off to school actually

1616
01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:29,639
Speaker 2: this fall. What would you tell kids like him? Should

1617
01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:32,920
Speaker 2: I take out student loans, Madam Secretary for my degree?

1618
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:33,599
Speaker 2: You would say what?

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01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:37,360
Speaker 8: Well, I would say, look at what the cost, the

1620
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:39,680
Speaker 8: real cost of that education is going to be. And

1621
01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:43,960
Speaker 8: one of the things that we have just accomplished here

1622
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:46,720
Speaker 8: at the Department of Education is the revamp of the

1623
01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:53,200
Speaker 8: FAST Program, which is the student loan application process. It

1624
01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:57,240
Speaker 8: was broken under the Biden administration. We took it on here.

1625
01:30:57,360 --> 01:30:59,920
Speaker 8: We've absolutely revamped it and now there is a sex

1626
01:31:00,360 --> 01:31:04,080
Speaker 8: which is just previewed and will now be part of

1627
01:31:04,120 --> 01:31:07,680
Speaker 8: the new application process that will show you what the

1628
01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:11,800
Speaker 8: cost of that education is going to be what the

1629
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:16,479
Speaker 8: typical earnings are for that profession and how much is

1630
01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:18,720
Speaker 8: going to cost you to go to the colleges that

1631
01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:22,240
Speaker 8: you have listed on your form that you want these

1632
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:25,760
Speaker 8: results sent to. So therefore you have some degree of

1633
01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:29,080
Speaker 8: understanding of what kind of income you would have to have,

1634
01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:33,840
Speaker 8: you know, to you know, to pay off your debt.

1635
01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:37,920
Speaker 8: So it lets parents and students know this is the

1636
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:40,320
Speaker 8: degree of debt that you're going to be involved in,

1637
01:31:40,720 --> 01:31:44,040
Speaker 8: and for the first time, I think it's like codifying

1638
01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:46,559
Speaker 8: it for students and parents to look at and say, Wow,

1639
01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:49,679
Speaker 8: this is going to be a lifetime payback or whatever

1640
01:31:49,720 --> 01:31:52,080
Speaker 8: it's going to be. You know, we have about one

1641
01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:55,120
Speaker 8: point seven trillion dollars of student debt and I think

1642
01:31:55,560 --> 01:32:00,000
Speaker 8: I think that's unconscionable. The rates at universities are so high,

1643
01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:02,200
Speaker 8: and part of what we are hoping to do as

1644
01:32:02,280 --> 01:32:04,920
Speaker 8: part of the Presence administration is to start getting these

1645
01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:05,800
Speaker 8: costs down.

1646
01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:09,160
Speaker 2: The Secretary of Education with is Lenda bing Mann. Is

1647
01:32:09,200 --> 01:32:12,639
Speaker 2: there any avenue to take student loaned at that one

1648
01:32:12,640 --> 01:32:15,320
Speaker 2: point seven trillion dollars in restructure in a way? Maybe,

1649
01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 2: I'm sure you and maybe Treasury Secretary Beston who we

1650
01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:19,600
Speaker 2: just mentioned I was kind of joking, but do you

1651
01:32:19,640 --> 01:32:21,599
Speaker 2: think there's a creative way that that could be rolled

1652
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:25,479
Speaker 2: into home lending to help students kind of manage it

1653
01:32:25,479 --> 01:32:28,680
Speaker 2: in a different way, maybe through the private sector. Is

1654
01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:30,680
Speaker 2: there something creative that can be done there to kind

1655
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:33,000
Speaker 2: of signal to young people that may feel a little

1656
01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:36,519
Speaker 2: disaffected Right now, I can tell you, guys, creative way

1657
01:32:36,520 --> 01:32:36,800
Speaker 2: to do it.

1658
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:40,200
Speaker 8: I'm sorry interrupt. One of the first conversations that Scott

1659
01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:43,839
Speaker 8: and I had, even before either of us was sworn

1660
01:32:43,880 --> 01:32:47,200
Speaker 8: in and just having conversations and I talked about student

1661
01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:51,160
Speaker 8: loans and how it could be restructured. Part of what

1662
01:32:51,200 --> 01:32:54,880
Speaker 8: you were saying, is there some private sector involvement that

1663
01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:57,599
Speaker 8: you could make sense? But one of the things we've

1664
01:32:57,600 --> 01:33:00,320
Speaker 8: done here in the department already is re institute did

1665
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:03,160
Speaker 8: UH as part of the One Big Beautiful Bill. There

1666
01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:07,040
Speaker 8: is now a very simple, one way payback system for

1667
01:33:07,240 --> 01:33:11,760
Speaker 8: student loans, not all of this mishmash of different programs

1668
01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:15,679
Speaker 8: that uh UH the former administration had put into place

1669
01:33:15,720 --> 01:33:19,920
Speaker 8: and just kept the entire community, you know, in a

1670
01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:23,160
Speaker 8: stir because they weren't really sure if their loans are

1671
01:33:23,160 --> 01:33:25,679
Speaker 8: going to be forgiven or not forgiven, and why should

1672
01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:28,479
Speaker 8: they pay. So we you know, we weren't collecting any

1673
01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:32,760
Speaker 8: loans during almost there the entirety of Divide administration. But

1674
01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:36,920
Speaker 8: we have started that program back and so for loans

1675
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:40,200
Speaker 8: that were you know, in default, we have now collected

1676
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:45,599
Speaker 8: almost a billion dollars you know, in repayments back. And

1677
01:33:45,680 --> 01:33:47,920
Speaker 8: so that's a little bit off point of what you

1678
01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:49,920
Speaker 8: were asking, but it is to show that there is

1679
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:54,120
Speaker 8: now some fiscal responsibility that is being attached to the program.

1680
01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:55,000
Speaker 5: But my.

1681
01:33:56,680 --> 01:34:01,440
Speaker 8: What what Secretary Vessent and I really have talked about

1682
01:34:01,160 --> 01:34:05,280
Speaker 8: is really how to restructure with more of the private

1683
01:34:05,320 --> 01:34:10,240
Speaker 8: sector involvement for lending students. This should not be a

1684
01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:13,360
Speaker 8: program that's really on the backs of taxpayers.

1685
01:34:12,720 --> 01:34:16,280
Speaker 2: Full time, for sure. Boy, I hope you can figure

1686
01:34:16,320 --> 01:34:19,120
Speaker 2: that out together. I certainly have some thoughts, not that

1687
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:20,519
Speaker 2: you asked, but I will tell you that I think

1688
01:34:20,520 --> 01:34:23,639
Speaker 2: that's a winner if you can reach young people with that. Look,

1689
01:34:23,640 --> 01:34:25,560
Speaker 2: we're coming up on the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary

1690
01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:27,640
Speaker 2: of this country, and I know you care about that.

1691
01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:29,680
Speaker 2: I know President Trump cares about that. You've got a

1692
01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:33,200
Speaker 2: very interesting initiative going on right now called History Rocks.

1693
01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:34,920
Speaker 2: I want to talk about that with you.

1694
01:34:35,439 --> 01:34:40,559
Speaker 8: Well, we've had now three History Rocks tours. We started

1695
01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:44,680
Speaker 8: in Pennsylvania, and we were in Delaware. We wound up

1696
01:34:44,720 --> 01:34:47,120
Speaker 8: in New Jersey. This was just last week. It is

1697
01:34:47,720 --> 01:34:51,600
Speaker 8: really the most fun. We've gone into a primary and

1698
01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:56,360
Speaker 8: a middle school with the program. We do a little

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Speaker 8: contest with some civics questions after, you know, some commentary

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Speaker 8: and explanation of what it means to be, you know,

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Speaker 8: having the biggest birthday coming up in fact one principle said,

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Speaker 8: you know, ask the students in the audience, he said,

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Speaker 8: how many have you love a big birthday party? And

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Speaker 8: we all raised their hand. He said, well, we're coming

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Speaker 8: up on the biggest birthday party in our country are

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Speaker 8: two hundred and fiftieth celebration, And it's just amazing and

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Speaker 8: the response that we're getting everybody loves History Rocks and

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Speaker 8: this Road Independence Tour, which we talk about the decoration

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Speaker 8: of Independence, what it meant to the country. I mean,

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Speaker 8: we start with very patriotic themes, that Pledge of Allegiance,

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Speaker 8: the National Anthem, imagine such radical thoughts and it really

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Speaker 8: is I think a good way to reconnect the young

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Speaker 8: people of our country with the patriotism that I think

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Speaker 8: we've lost a great deal across the country. I mean

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Speaker 8: when I saw a survey that said only about forty

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Speaker 8: one percent of eighteen to twenty nine year olds loved

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Speaker 8: their country, and I thought, wow, how can that be?

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Speaker 8: And I think it's because they don't know their country.

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Speaker 8: So this tour that we are doing in combination with

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Speaker 8: about forty different other coalitions who will bring, you know,

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Speaker 8: some of the artifacts from museums, They will be giving speeches,

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Speaker 8: and I will be able to be on a lot

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Speaker 8: of these programs across the States. I just think it's

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Speaker 8: to rev up again the interest and the knowledge of

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Speaker 8: civics in our country and how we began and what

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Speaker 8: was sacrificed in order for our country to be what

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Speaker 8: it is today. And I think it's incredibly important and

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Speaker 8: it will culminate, you know, in DC next year around

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Speaker 8: the fourth of July, when we're going to have this

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Speaker 8: incredible celebration. In conjunction with this tour, there is the

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Speaker 8: president seventeen seventy six contests that's will be happening a

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Speaker 8: little bit like a spelling bee across the country and

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Speaker 8: the winners, you know, they'll first, you know, win, you know,

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Speaker 8: local and then states and districts and come to DC

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Speaker 8: and they're quite quite handsome prizes for the winners.

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Speaker 3: In the end.

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Speaker 8: So it's all about generating again interest in our country,

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Speaker 8: love of country civics education, which is absolutely not taught

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Speaker 8: in schools anymore, and so this is also to bring

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Speaker 8: light on that and to make sure that included in

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Speaker 8: the curriculum. We're encouraging states and cities and districts to

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Speaker 8: make sure that it is part of the education of

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Speaker 8: our young people.

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Speaker 2: Madam Secretary, We're always grateful for your time, thanks for

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Speaker 2: the work you're doing for the future of young people

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Speaker 2: in this country. And Merry Christmas to you.

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Speaker 8: Thank you so much. The same to you, Chris.

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Speaker 2: that you do. Marty McCarey is back. There is a

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Speaker 2: study out there from Stanford now that concludes I guess

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Speaker 2: I'm going to call this the you don't say stack.

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Speaker 2: Stanford medicine investigators have unearthed the biological process by which

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Speaker 2: the COVID shot can cause heart damage in young men

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Speaker 2: and adolescents. You don't say why we were called conspiratorial

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Speaker 2: cooks when young men were dropping dead after taking that

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Speaker 2: stupid shot. And now Stanford's come out with a study.

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Speaker 2: Marty McCarey number sixty one, if you please, PAULI addressing this.

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Speaker 16: These are data reports that came in during the Biden

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Speaker 16: administration where a doctor or a parent said that their

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Speaker 16: kid died immediately after getting the COVID vaccine, and they

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Speaker 16: believe that there was a link. So the FDAIGHT did

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Speaker 16: its own investigation, and this was all during the Biden administration,

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Speaker 16: but they suppressed that data.

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Speaker 2: It was never made public.

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Speaker 16: And so do we have a moral obligation to make

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Speaker 16: that information public. I believe we do, but we need

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Speaker 16: to verify the information first to make sure it's accurate.

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Speaker 16: It's known, and it's been known that young kids have

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Speaker 16: died from the COVID vaccine. We're not trying to create

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Speaker 16: hysteria or scare anybody out of taking any vaccine, but.

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Speaker 2: You've got to be honest.

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Speaker 16: Young kids are at high risk of myocard idis. Older

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Speaker 16: individuals are at lower risk of myocarditis from the vaccine,

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Speaker 16: and we've seen the COVID shot reduced the severity of

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Speaker 16: illness in older Americans back in twenty twenty at the

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Speaker 16: end of Operation Warp Speed. It was a good match

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Speaker 16: at the time for the virus of its circulating, there

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Speaker 16: was low levels of natural immunity in the population, and

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Speaker 16: it saved lives. But when it comes to mandating this

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Speaker 16: vaccine today in young, healthy individuals, as the Biden administration does,

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Speaker 16: we want schools to know that. Well, first of all,

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Speaker 16: you cannot mandate this vaccine now, given the changes that

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Speaker 16: we've done, but we want people to know that it's

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Speaker 16: not a one thousand percent safe. There have been some

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Speaker 16: reports that are concerning.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I guess it just took the right amount of

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Speaker 2: study and the right amount of messengers to figure that out.

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Speaker 2: So all of us who were told we were kooks,

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Speaker 2: all of us who were told that young people had

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Speaker 2: to get the shot, everybody had to get the shot,

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Speaker 2: get the shot, get the shot. It didn't work, and

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Speaker 2: in some cases it killed kids. There's a special place

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Speaker 2: in hell for people that pushed that on the American

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Speaker 2: public at large. Without question, there is a special place

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Speaker 2: in hell for that. Get over it. I will never

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Speaker 2: forgive it. And the idea that there were Americans in

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Speaker 2: this country, including your host, who at one point either

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Speaker 2: of us were held hostage by that stupid shot, that

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