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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Carl Jackson Joe, Carl Jackson Joe, The

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Speaker 1: Carl Jackson Show. This is your daily Dosa freedom.

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Speaker 2: Guys.

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Speaker 1: The news is just crazy and in abundance. I'm joined

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Speaker 1: today by my guest John Lott. He's become a regular

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Speaker 1: on the program. Absolutely love his work. But we did

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Speaker 1: not expect to be leading off, or at least I

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Speaker 1: did not expect to be leading off with two shootings today.

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Speaker 1: We're actually going to dive into a probably a couple

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Speaker 1: of columns of John's, one on trance violence, why it's

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Speaker 1: way worse than the media is telling you. Also, the

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Speaker 1: left is going and they're kind of on a gun

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Speaker 1: grabbing mission. They want to start with law abiding citizens

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Speaker 1: and police officers. I want to talk about that a

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Speaker 1: little bit with John, But first, before we get to

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Speaker 1: those issues, I want to talk to him about the

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Speaker 1: shootings that occur today. And Guys, I gotta be totally

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Speaker 1: honest with you. I was paying attention to the shooting

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Speaker 1: that happened at the synagogue, and we'll get into that John,

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Speaker 1: and I had totally missed the shooting that occurred at

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Speaker 1: Old Dominion the same day. So I want to bring

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Speaker 1: John lott On and get his take on both of

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Speaker 1: these shootings right away here, John lot thank you for

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Speaker 1: joining us. Of course, he's with the Crime Prevention Research Institute.

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Speaker 1: I think I got it right this time, John, Crime

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Speaker 1: Prevention Research Institute, anyway, research center center. Okay, but anyway,

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Speaker 1: so I did it all right, Okay, all right, So

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Speaker 1: give us your take here, John.

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Speaker 2: Well, looks.

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Speaker 3: My own guess is that these two attacks today are

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Speaker 3: at least tangentially related.

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Speaker 2: Uh the old Dominion, the.

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Speaker 3: Guy was shot shouting a la akbar. He's had connections

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Speaker 3: with ISIS in the past. He had been sentenced to

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Speaker 3: a prison term but had been released early with a

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Speaker 3: pardon by Biden.

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Speaker 2: He's a naturalized citizen.

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Speaker 3: I assume the guy who did the attack at the

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Speaker 3: Jewish synagogue today was also, you know, of a similar vein,

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Speaker 3: and you know, you know we have and apparently he

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Speaker 3: was also a naturalized citizen, So you know, we probably

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Speaker 3: want to think a little bit more carefully about who

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Speaker 1: And honestly, it's such a simple and and I'm concerned

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Speaker 1: that we're going to see more and more of this,

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Speaker 1: obviously with what's transpiring in the Middle East. With the

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Speaker 1: Iran conflict, and I think the United States is kicking

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Speaker 1: some booty, despite with many in the media or what

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Speaker 1: they're trying to portray. I'm not trying to pretend like

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Speaker 1: think that we're having great success in Iran, so is Israel,

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Speaker 1: and I think that it'll pay off in the long

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Speaker 1: run dividends where our men won't have to go back.

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Speaker 1: But meanwhile, we are going to have to fight a

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Speaker 1: lot of these people I believe sadly that are or

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Speaker 1: some of these guidaways or some of these people that

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Speaker 1: we just don't know when they're gonna pop up. I'm curious.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you this, John, because I know

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Speaker 1: that we're kind of on high alert for sleeper sales

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Speaker 1: as a result of what's happening in Iran. But I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure that I'm not so sure that I'm that concerned,

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Speaker 1: and maybe I should be about sleeper sales as much

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Speaker 1: as I am the lone wolf like these attacks that

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Speaker 1: seem to be popping up. I mean, obviously what happened today,

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Speaker 2: Well, I think that's reasonable to be concerned.

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Speaker 3: I also think that it's one reason why people should

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Speaker 3: carry their permanent concealed handguns when they're out in public.

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Speaker 3: There's so many potential targets. You can't have police there

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Speaker 3: all the time, and having police in uniform, they face

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Speaker 3: real tactical disadvantages and stopping these attacks. If somebody's thinking

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Speaker 2: At any point in time.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's a lot to cover three hundred and

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Speaker 1: And John Mata, hold on just a second, that numbers,

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Speaker 1: that number just blew me away. I did not realize.

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Speaker 1: I did not realize that law enforcement was fordsult in.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why that hit me the way that

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, we have about six hundred and seventy

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Speaker 3: And obviously not everybody's on the street, and that includes

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Speaker 2: You know, So you're talking about.

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Speaker 3: Something that's around two hundred and twenty thousand, you know sets,

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Speaker 3: you're asking a lot. You know, there's like one officer

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Speaker 3: they can't be there all the time. And and the

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Speaker 3: fact that they're in uniform makes it difficult for them

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Speaker 3: as I said, for them to either leave or move

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Speaker 3: insist on attacking while the officers there, who do you

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Speaker 3: think they shoot first?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're going to shoot the officer first.

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Speaker 3: We recently completed a study looking at all the active

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Speaker 3: shooting attacks in the United States from twenty fourteen through

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four and what you find is that police

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Speaker 3: actually stopped fewer of those attacks than concealed carry permit

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Speaker 3: holders for the first two reasons that I gave in part.

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Speaker 3: But even though they stopped fewer attacks, they were twelve

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Speaker 3: times more likely to get killed in those attacks than

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Speaker 3: concealed carry permit holders were. Because you know, having somebody

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Speaker 2: Them, say shoot me first. Look.

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Speaker 3: I'll give you a simple example. We have air marshals

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Speaker 3: on planes. Does anybody think an air marshal ought to

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Speaker 3: air marshals should be in uniform, And the answer is

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Speaker 2: Why that's the case.

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Speaker 3: If you have an air marshal in uniform and you

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that.

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Speaker 3: But when you're talking about these types of attacks, you

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Speaker 1: You know, John, I'm going to ask you, what is

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Speaker 1: I believe a rhetorical question, but it's it's insane to

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Speaker 1: me that, I mean, we're just not speaking the truth

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Speaker 1: about this. And then I want to get into your column.

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Speaker 1: The real rate of transgender violence is much worse than

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Speaker 1: a very important topic too. But obviously I think the

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Speaker 1: real rate of Islamic violence inside of the United States

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Speaker 1: is much worse than the media wants to admit. Again,

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Speaker 1: I mean, just looking at Old Dominion. I'll check on

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Speaker 1: the the the synagogue that was hit as well, but

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Speaker 1: some at least sympathetic to UH, to Iran or to

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Speaker 1: that the New York City mayor refused to call out. John.

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Speaker 1: Do we have a problem, a bigger problem with white

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Speaker 1: supremacy inside of the United States, white supremacy, white supremacist

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Speaker 1: being domestic terrorists, or do we have a bigger problem

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Speaker 1: with Islamic terrorism that we keep that we seem to

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Speaker 1: ignore quite frankly.

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Speaker 3: Right well, at our website, we go and break this

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Speaker 3: down for things like mass public shootings, and what you

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Speaker 3: find is that Middle Eastern individuals are over represented by

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Speaker 3: i think a factor of seven compared to their share

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Speaker 3: they're very over represented in these attacks. If you look

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Speaker 3: And when you're looking at kind of the motivations that

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Speaker 3: public shooters are simply suicidal individuals who have no real

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Speaker 3: political views. You're talking about maybe about eight percent or

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Speaker 3: so that have some type of white supremacist type views,

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Speaker 3: but half of those, more than half are actually environmentalists.

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Speaker 3: It be the Walmart shooting and l Passo or other attacks.

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Speaker 3: They are you know, the Buffalo grocery store shooter or others.

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Speaker 3: They are upset about people having too many kids, and

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Speaker 3: You can go to the christ Church shooting in New Zealand.

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Speaker 3: upset about immigrants having too many kids, you know, but

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Speaker 3: It's what you see all the time here, unfortunately, and

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Speaker 3: the media hides the fact that these guys are are

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Speaker 3: you know, you just don't see kind of the white

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Speaker 1: All right, So John R. Lot Junior. I mean, obviously

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Speaker 1: pass a sixty vot threshold. We have fifty three to

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Speaker 1: forty seven as far as Republican senators versus Democrats. Not

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Speaker 1: all Republican senators are on board. I'm leaning towards the

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Speaker 1: talking filibuster and pressuring Democrats because if we don't have

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Speaker 1: election integrity, what do we have?

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Speaker 2: John?

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Speaker 1: I Am you were mentioning when we were offline, just

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Speaker 1: the types of election integrity that other nations have. And

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Speaker 1: normally I don't like to compare the United States to

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Speaker 1: other nations, but in this sense, I think we should

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Speaker 1: because it's a shame that we don't have the type

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Speaker 1: of election integrity inside of the United States. That's just

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Speaker 1: common sense, especially in places like California and some of

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Speaker 1: these blue cities that are just insane.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in the United States is very unique in terms

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Speaker 3: of not having protections for voter integrity. I don't think

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Speaker 3: most people appreciate it. You know, you look at Europe,

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Speaker 3: for example, they're forty seven countries in Europe. Forty six

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Speaker 3: and a half of them required government issued photo IDs

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Speaker 3: to be able to go and vote.

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Speaker 2: You look at.

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Speaker 3: Europe, thirty eight of the countries in Europe ban absentil

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Speaker 3: ballots for people who live in the country. Another eight

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Speaker 3: allow it, but they require that you have to go

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Speaker 3: in person and show a government issued photo ID to

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Speaker 3: be able to go and pick up the absentee ballot.

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Speaker 3: And six of those eight countries limited to people who

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Speaker 3: are in the hospital or in the military at the time.

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Speaker 3: And they just don't take your word for it that

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Speaker 3: you're not going to be available. You have to have

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Speaker 3: third party verification, so you know, and we're not even

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Speaker 3: talking about mail in ballots where they automatically send out

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Speaker 3: a ballot to people. These are absent tea ballots where

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Speaker 3: you have to go and request it. You know, you

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Speaker 3: look at Canada and Mexico both required government issued photo

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Speaker 3: IDs to be able to vote. Mexico bans absentee ballots.

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Speaker 3: You look at South America. All the countries in South

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Speaker 3: America required government issued photo IDs to be.

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Speaker 2: Able to go and vote.

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Speaker 3: All the countries in Africa required government issued photo IDs

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Speaker 3: for people to be able to go and vote.

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Speaker 2: You know, you look around the world.

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Speaker 3: The United States is the real outlier in terms of

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Speaker 3: not having protections. And the thing is, some of these

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Speaker 3: countries used to have rules similar to what we have

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Speaker 3: in the United States, but they discovered massive fraud that

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Speaker 3: was occurring that caused them to change France until nineteen

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Speaker 3: seventy five had absentee ballot rules similar to what we

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Speaker 3: have in the United States. But they discovered on the island,

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Speaker 3: of course, simply by accident, simply because some people got

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Speaker 3: a guilty conscience that literally hundreds of thousands of votes

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Speaker 3: were either being made up or purchased, because when you

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Speaker 3: have an absentee ballot, you can go and show somebody

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Speaker 3: how you're going to vote.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: The thing is, people don't even understand the history of

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Speaker 3: voting in the United States used to have massive vote problems.

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Speaker 3: In the United States, we didn't have secret ballots up

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Speaker 3: until eighteen eighty. Kentucky was the first state to have

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Speaker 3: secret ballots in eighteen eighty. The last state to have

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Speaker 3: secret ballots was South Carolina in nineteen fifty. And what

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Speaker 3: would happen is is there'd be a ballot box up

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Speaker 3: in the front of the room and you drop in

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Speaker 3: a colored piece of paper based on what party you

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Speaker 3: were going to be voting for. And what would happen

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Speaker 3: is is that the representatives of the parties would stand

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Speaker 3: on either side of the ballot box and observe how

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Speaker 3: you voted, and then they would pay people based on

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Speaker 3: how they voted, and that was the main reason we

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Speaker 3: moved to secret ballots to prevent vote buy that was occurring.

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Speaker 3: And when states switched to secret ballots, you had all

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Speaker 3: these different states in different years switching. There was about

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Speaker 3: a ten percentage point drop in voter turnout that occurred

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Speaker 3: right when you went to a secret ballot, because basically

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Speaker 3: what happened is some people who were no longer getting

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Speaker 3: paid decide, you know, it's not worth it to go

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Speaker 3: and vote. And what they don't realize at the time

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Speaker 3: is that states across the United States banned absent tee

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Speaker 3: ballots because they were worried that and also ballot harvesting.

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Speaker 3: And the reason was is because if you have an

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Speaker 3: absent tee ballot, you could get the same vote buying.

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Speaker 3: You could show somebody how you had voted, and then

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Speaker 3: if you gave it to them, they could make sure

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Speaker 3: that it was turned in. It's just over time, people

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Speaker 3: forget why we had these rules to begin with, and

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Speaker 3: you know, you know, and we loosen the rules, and

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Speaker 3: so now we have a number of states that go

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Speaker 3: and have these mail in ballots where they just send

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Speaker 3: out in mass I lived in Nevada, briefly in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 3: and I lived in an apartment building where I got.

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Speaker 2: Mail in ballots.

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Speaker 3: From like the four previous presidents Wow, they had lived

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Speaker 3: wow in the apartment. And if you went through the

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Speaker 3: mail room, what you would find is literally, I don't

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Speaker 3: know whether there's one hundred or more absentee ballots just

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Speaker 3: on the floor, you because people would be getting all

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Speaker 3: these absentee ballots that were from them and they would

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Speaker 3: just throw them on the floor. So you know, I

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Speaker 3: could have for somebody else could have picked up all

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Speaker 3: those ballots and voted them.

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Speaker 2: And you know who would catch the person that would

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Speaker 2: do that.

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Speaker 1: You know what's so frustrating about this? And I want

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Speaker 1: you to play cut thirty one here shortly gave if

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Speaker 1: you hear me, cut number thirty one. But what's so

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Speaker 1: frustrating about this? This isn't a Democratic Republican. Let's say

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Speaker 1: you hate Trump. That's fine. I'm a Trump supporter, that's fine.

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Speaker 1: Let's say you hate Trump. Don't you want to make

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Speaker 1: sure that the elections are fair across the board, regardless

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Speaker 1: of who you're voting for. It only makes sense to me,

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Speaker 1: and most people believe what I believe let's play cut

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Speaker 1: number thirty one. Please gave.

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Speaker 2: Mhm H.

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Speaker 1: And obviously that's the polls haven't changed much on that.

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Speaker 1: That was a few weeks ago. And then there's a video.

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Speaker 1: We won't play it for the sake of time, but

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Speaker 1: gavin you some the the the governor of California that

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Speaker 1: I don't even know when he works, admits that jerry

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Speaker 1: mandering is a response to the Save Act that would

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Speaker 1: require photo ID. So the only reason you wouldn't want

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Speaker 1: photo ID to vote is so that you can cheat.

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Speaker 1: Is there another reason John rlot Junior that you can

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Speaker 1: think of that the left wouldn't want botto ID to vote.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean they claim that it prevents people from voting.

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Speaker 3: I guess the only thing I would say is all

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Speaker 3: the states that require government issued photo ID provide free ID.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't even cost you anything.

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Speaker 3: You can't even make it out, You can't even make

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Speaker 3: it to the place to apply. These states will send

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Speaker 3: somebody to your residence to go and make sure that

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Speaker 3: you have the ID. But you know, I'm not sure

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Speaker 3: how most people can survive without IDs. They can't have

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Speaker 3: a bank account, they can't get welfare payments, they can't

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Speaker 3: get some security, they can't get anything. Basically, they can't

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Speaker 3: fly on planes, they can't get drugs from the pharmacy,

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Speaker 3: they can't. You know, I don't know how you function

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Speaker 3: without having some form of government issued ID with you.

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Speaker 1: You know what, what's amazing, Johnny, you just triggered something

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Speaker 1: in my head. I'm trying to see if I can

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Speaker 1: find it. But there was a Democrat, a state senator,

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Speaker 1: basically making the case. I'm trying to see where what

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Speaker 1: state this was in right now, I'm scrolling through my

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Speaker 1: phone and I don't see it. But anyway, he was

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Speaker 1: making the case in one of these blue states that

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Speaker 1: illegals should be able to get rental assistance, whether or

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Speaker 1: not they have ID, whether or not they can prove

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Speaker 1: that they're non citizens. So their goal seems to be

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Speaker 1: to buy the votes of illegals, keep them on the

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Speaker 1: doll keep them on welfare so that they will keep

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Speaker 1: coming back and voting for the Democrat party. We have

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Speaker 1: thirty seconds your take.

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Speaker 3: I mean, one of the bizarre things is the Democrats

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Speaker 3: want to promise from the Trump administration before they'll fund

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Speaker 3: a Department of Homeland Security that ICE agents will not

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Speaker 3: be allowed to be at voting.

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Speaker 2: That's right during the election. Man.

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't know what's the goal from that

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Speaker 3: having ICE agents there, so who know. It's overwhelming even

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Speaker 3: among Democrats, among by race or whatever that people think

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Speaker 3: you how to have government issued IDs. And the interesting

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Speaker 3: thing to me is that the lower income, less educate

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Speaker 3: people are even more in favor of it than the

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Speaker 3: people who have like graduate school education,