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I think Memorial Day is the most 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:48.400 probably meaningful one, even more than Fourth of July, which 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:53.120 Christ Oh. Yes, the civic holidays. I wish Easter was 0:01:53.160 --> 0:01:54.000 a US holiday. 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:56.080 Well, okay, but it's a yeah, I get, I get 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:59.240 what you mean. But as far as civic holidays, I do. 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:02.600 I do agree with Memorial Day is a really powerful one. 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:05.600 And I have a brother that serves and family members 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:07.680 that serves, and I'm sure you've got that throughout your 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:08.480 family and friends. 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:09.720 So we all. 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:12.640 Remember the fallen this weekend and listen, spend time with 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:15.600 your family, enjoy the long weekend. There's gonna be massive 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:19.120 celebrations in Washington, DC and around the country, of course, 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:22.280 and I know that Real America's Voice is going to 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:25.399 be covering all of that on Monday, all the parades 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:28.600 and the wreath laying, So do check out this channel 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:32.040 on Monday because it's gonna be great. And we're going 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:34.639 to be having a Memorial Day special as well, which 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:38.680 I think will immediately follow that, So check it all out. 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:42.840 In the meantime, we got news to cover and I 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:48.639 was taken by a release from Spencer Pratt. Okay, I've 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:52.280 been watching that campaign very closely, and he's got a really, 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:57.240 really fascinating and I think compelling plan to combat homelessness, 0:02:57.320 --> 0:02:59.560 which is I think one of the more intractable problems 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:03.040 that many cities face and it's their own choice certainly. 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:05.720 Here to help us unpack that right at the jump 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:08.760 is Jason Rantz. He's host of The Jason rant Show 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:12.040 on Seattle Red seven seventy up in Seattle. He's a 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:15.200 West Coaster through and through and is just a glutton 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:18.560 for punishment. He's also the author of the book What's 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:21.760 Killing America. Jason, Welcome back to the show, my friend. 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:22.320 Good to see you. 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:24.000 Yeah, thanks for having me back. 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:26.280 So you had homework. 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:28.959 I said, you got to watch this video Spencer Pratt, 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:33.200 because yes, Spencer Pratt is running a really remarkable campaign 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:35.040 in many ways, and I'd love to just get your 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:39.120 initial reaction to that. But he's using media in ways 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:40.400 that nobody's done before. 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:40.840 AI. 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:45.360 You know, organic creators in LA, in the movie space 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:49.960 are making their own Spencer Pratt campaign ads this So 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:51.840 we'll get into the homeless piece, but just on the 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:55.800 top of it, As a West Coast urban American, what's 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:58.200 it like to see somebody like Spencer Pratt emerge on 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:00.680 the scene and actually apparently have a legit, jitimate chance. 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:04.720 Maybe he's not favored yet, but he could become mayor 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:05.440 of LA. 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:09.560 He could look he's gaining momentum, and he's doing it 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:12.680 in a way that I think really reaches folks who 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:15.520 don't normally pay attention to politics. There are a lot 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:18.000 of folks and this is really the issue with Donald Trump, 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:20.560 and even to another extent like zoron Mamdani, where they 0:04:20.560 --> 0:04:22.600 were able to speak to people and energize people who 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:25.240 maybe don't normally vote. Now in one case didn't like 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:27.640 that they were able to do that. But for President Trump, 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:30.560 We're obviously a fan of him getting those folks to vote. 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:32.520 And I think Spencer Pratt is really connecting with people 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:35.560 who look at a lot of these issues and say 0:04:35.640 --> 0:04:40.400 they're not inherently political. When we're talking about public safety 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:44.160 and homelessness, drug use on our streets. The average person, 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:45.680 no matter how it is they vote, they don't look 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:47.360 at this and say, well, that's a Democratic issue or 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:50.480 that's a Republican issue. They just see it as common sense. 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:55.040 And you know, Spencer Pratt is able to connect Republican 0:04:55.120 --> 0:05:00.480 policies with common sense approaches. And that's really why I'm 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:02.000 so excited for what he's able to do. 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:04.159 Jason, what you just said, I think is really the 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:07.640 model for how conservatives let's just call him not even conservative, 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:10.680 let's call him common sense Americans just call in in 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:13.400 an urban environment, it's all local. 0:05:13.960 --> 0:05:14.839 It's all local. 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:16.400 Actually, as a matter of fact, like as much as 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:18.520 I love the President, the worst thing that could have 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:20.880 happened to Spencer Pratt was President Trump going. 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:21.560 I heard he's. 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:24.480 Mega, you know, like it's like just leave him alone, 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:27.960 let him let him cook, right, you know, And so 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:30.640 I would just say, like what you said, I think 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:34.279 is really really important because we've so many of our 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:36.479 American cities you see this up close in Seattle, have 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:38.360 gotten away from the bread and butter of just making 0:05:38.360 --> 0:05:41.040 the trains run on time, like cleaning up the filth, 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:44.640 making sure people can walk the street safely. It's gotten 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:48.640 so ideology ideological that they've lost sight of just basic 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:51.680 common sense stuff. And I feel like that's the magic 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:54.800 to the Spencer Pratt campaign. Yes he's charismatic, Yes he's 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:57.480 good with media, Yes he's like a social media campaign, 0:05:57.520 --> 0:05:59.599 but it's getting back to the bread and butter stuff 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:01.919 where common sense Americans are going like, yeah, that makes sense. 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:04.839 You can put out a lot of really well produced 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:07.640 videos AI or otherwise, but if they're not talking about 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:09.719 the issues the way that people see them, it doesn't 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:13.520 really matter. And that's what makes the most sense to 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:16.320 explain why he's taking off the way that he has. 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:19.080 It's because he's talking about issues that people see and 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:22.240 experience every single day. He can get to the emotional 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:25.800 arguments by simply saying to a parent, do you want 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:28.719 to feel the way you do when you're walking in 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:31.440 a park with your kid and you're seeing someone smoking 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:35.400 fentanyl or using a playground as a toilet, and you 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:37.960 don't have to lean into the emotion beyond just telling 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:40.440 people what it is they're currently experiencing, and it allows 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:42.800 them to get emotional on their own. And those are 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:45.919 the best kinds of ads. He's obviously very clever, he 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:49.360 is very charismatic in these in these pitches, but he's 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:52.000 just he's talking about things the way the average person 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:54.800 sees them, and that there's not a single person again, 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:57.880 regardless of how they vote, who say who says to themselves? Yeah, 0:06:57.920 --> 0:07:00.160 I like the idea of going to a park has 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:02.320 been completely taken over by the homeless. No one holds 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:04.440 those positions except I guess radicals on the left. 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:06.359 I totally agree. 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:10.560 And you know, it's interesting, so much of our modern 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:13.000 political discourse between left and right just feels like, are 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:14.840 you for the third World? Are you for the first World? 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:16.920 Do you want America to look like a first World 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:19.360 country or a third World country? I mean, and you've 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:22.640 got in your city, you've got a socialist mayor that 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:27.960 just basically called on everybody to boycott's Starbucks like one 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:32.679 of the established corporate entities. The heartbeat of the city. 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:37.400 You drive pass downtown South of downtown. You see that 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:40.160 h Q right there with the with the logo on it. 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:44.160 She's calling to boycott. Start now she's walking that back now. 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:46.680 She it did more harm than good. Imagine that. 0:07:47.120 --> 0:07:48.160 Truly remarkable. 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:50.560 And I want to I want to play this Spencer 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:53.600 pratt uh mashup if we have it loaded, and then 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:55.920 I want to get your reaction on the other other side. 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:57.160 I don't know if we're going to get it in 0:07:57.240 --> 0:07:59.880 time here. Uh oh it is, it's loaded as to. 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:02.040 Let's go ahead and run it, Jason Rant and your 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:03.280 reaction on the other side. 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:06.800 Los Angeles doesn't have a homeless problem. We have a 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:12.120 drug problem. Treat medical teams administer narcan to reverse opioid overdoses. 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:14.840 It blocks the opioid receptors in the brain, so the 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:17.160 attic could shoot up as much heroin as they want. 0:08:17.280 --> 0:08:18.160 It won't do a thing. 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:21.720 The problem is narcan only lasts for a day or two, 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:24.320 and it doesn't break the addiction cycle. There is a 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:28.160 longer lasting anti narcotic drug called vivitrol that does what 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:31.080 narcan does, but it lasts for thirty days, giving a 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:32.880 much better chance of breaking the addiction. 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:34.960 The problem is the attic must. 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:37.320 Be sober from seven to fourteen days before it can 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:39.960 be administered. So we have this donut hole between the 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:42.280 forty eight hours of protection with the narcan and the 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:45.440 two weeks of sobriety needed to administer the vivitrol. Step one, 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:49.679 break the cycle. No more distribution of drug paraphernalia. Karen 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:53.280 Bass and Nitthya Rahman currently pay NGO's millions of dollars 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:56.160 to increase drug usage and profit up the misery of. 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:57.199 These drug addicts. 0:08:57.520 --> 0:08:59.280 I'm putting an end to this profiteering. 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:00.560 Step two. 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:03.320 We have the laws, we just need to use them. 0:09:03.559 --> 0:09:07.120 Step three and the body brokering. Many of the attics 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:09.720 you see around your neighborhood are bussed in from other 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:13.640 states in order for local NGOs to profit off their addiction. 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:17.800 Step four, bring in the DEA. We have international cartels 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:21.480 operating in the open on our streets. Step five. A 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:25.480 modern treatment facility. I've already made plans with several high 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:29.360 profile developers who want to donate resources to build a large, 0:09:29.559 --> 0:09:33.320 modern and safe campus where we can administer rehab outside 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:34.800 of our residential neighborhoods. 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:39.120 All right, Jason, So the five points just to reiterate them. 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:42.640 Break the cycle. So stop distributing drug paraphernalia. No more 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:46.880 free needles or crack pipes. Uphold the law. So place 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:48.559 the listit drug users on a five to one to 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:51.240 fifty hole for seventy two hours. It's involuntary. It's a 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:55.360 psychiatric hold. Step three, stop boat body brokers. These are 0:09:55.400 --> 0:09:58.040 the NGOs that Blake and I rail against basically every 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:00.400 day on this show, that are we think ruining America. 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:02.800 They're fleecing the taxpayers, getting rich on it. 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:03.880 Whatever. 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:07.920 Bring in the DEA that's target international drug cartels in 0:10:07.960 --> 0:10:11.360 the streets, and then build modern treatments facilities outside of 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:14.160 residential communities so they don't bear the brunt of having 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:17.200 a bunch of like homeless crackheads want around the schools 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:20.560 in the parks. Okay, so he's got a whole plan 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:23.320 to build those outside. What do you make of this 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:24.280 five point plant? 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:29.520 Jason Rants is brilliant for one simple reason. The left 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:32.160 oftentimes talk about how we have to get innovative and 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:34.120 all these None of what he just said is innovative. 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:36.960 It's just basic stuff that's common sense. Is doing what 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:39.720 every single person knows needs to be done, Like let's 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:42.560 not hand out crack pipes. I know that that is 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:45.400 crazy that how dare someone actually say that? But that's 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:46.880 literally what's going on. 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:47.320 You know. 0:10:47.480 --> 0:10:50.760 Last year I went to the King County, Seattle Public 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:53.640 Health office and I went in and I got a 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:56.960 whole bunch of drug materials, drug paraphernalia. I got a 0:10:56.960 --> 0:10:59.880 crack pipe, I was given tinfoil to smoke fentanyl, all 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:03.000 these different things. Perhaps we should stop giving that out 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:05.840 to drug addicts and we should actually treat them. This 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:07.800 whole idea that we should be handing out in narcan 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:11.840 not because they want to get people into treatment, but 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:15.640 so that they can continue to use without dying from 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:18.120 an overdose. They like to say all the time that 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:20.560 we don't want to stigmatize drug addiction. I do want 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:23.000 to stigmatize drug use, simple as that. I want to 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:25.400 stigmatize that because it's going to kill these people. And 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:28.800 I would rather have someone harmed quote unquote because they 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:30.800 had their feelings hurt, that we call them out for 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:33.680 being a drug user, that have them die on our streets. 0:11:33.679 --> 0:11:37.400 And so everything that he is proposing there is going 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:39.920 to be seen as controversial to the folks who make 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:42.600 a whole lot of money when you've got drug addicts 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:46.040 on our streets, that there's this a homeless industrial complex 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:49.679 that is real, that exists, and they're the ones who 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:52.200 are pushing the harm reduction model. For those of the 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:56.439 don't know, harm reduction is essentially a strategy, they say, 0:11:56.960 --> 0:12:00.280 to reduce the harm of illicit substance abuse so that 0:12:00.320 --> 0:12:01.480 you can get someone into treatment. 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:01.960 The problem. 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:05.800 Of course, on paper that sounds great. In reality, they 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:08.520 never get anyone into treatment. They don't push treatment, They 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:11.559 simply push making it quote unquote safer to continue to 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:13.800 use drugs because they don't want to stigmatize the drug user. 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:17.000 It is a failed policy and it's exactly why we're 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:19.240 seeing the crisis on the ground as bad as we're 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:20.679 seeing it across the country. 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:25.400 Yeah, the third worlding of the United States starts with 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:30.680 allowing chaos, drug use, crime, filth to reign supreme. And 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:33.400 if you look at just spending totals, you would think 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:35.640 that the Democrats really do care, because they do throw 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:36.360 a lot of money out. 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:37.440 I assure you they care. 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:40.520 They care because as you said, the homeless industrial complex, 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:43.880 like last year Los Angeles, they paid it. 0:12:43.880 --> 0:12:46.839 They spent about four hundred and eighteen million. 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:50.280 Dollars on stuff that you'd say is homeless related. Well, 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:53.240 you just run the numbers by the addicts, that's something 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:55.080 like fifteen twenty thousand dollars. 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:57.440 It's the homeless person, it depends. 0:12:57.520 --> 0:12:59.439 You can take it over long times and all the 0:12:59.480 --> 0:13:02.480 stuff that and do it billions, certainly billions if you 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:05.160 include what the hospitals have to pay for it, what 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:07.320 a lot of institutions end up shelling out, but just 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:10.440 the government there, and that money is obviously not going 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:14.040 to the homeless individuals. It's going to these NGOs that 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:17.959 are fighting homelessness. I'd be tempted to add a sixth 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:20.200 point to this, which he probably won't, but a six 0:13:20.240 --> 0:13:23.199 point friend in homelessness might as well be cut anti 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:27.880 homelessness spending to zero. You can have law enforcement budget, 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:30.840 you can have drug enforcement budget, you can have treatment 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:33.480 centers for people who addicted, but anything that's going to 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:35.000 be branded as fighting homelessness. 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:38.160 I would posit that there is a direct relationship. 0:13:38.160 --> 0:13:40.760 The more you spend on fighting homelessness, the more homeless 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:45.120 people you have. You are funding an apparatus of parasitic 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:49.080 individuals who don't want to end homelessness, who want to 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:52.640 enable all of those suicidal behaviors. La Is spent over 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:55.160 the past decades billions of dollars fighting homelessness. 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:55.800 What's the result. 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:58.959 They have sixty thousand homeless people in LA County, six 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:03.040 forty thousand in Los Angeles itself. That would be the 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:05.920 I think that would be the second largest city in 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:06.280 the state. 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:09.840 I'm from South Dakota. So what's interesting though, is his tone. 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:11.640 He's saying, you would never do this to your son 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:15.439 or daughter, You would never do this to a family member, 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:19.080 you would never enable their addiction. And he's saying, guess what, 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:21.560 We're going to use the laws on the books to 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:26.360 mandate like these arrests. Basically, he's saying that the laws 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:28.680 aren't exists where we can take these people off the streets, 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:31.640 force them to get clean, use these better drugs to 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:34.240 force you know that they don't relapse. But we're not 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:36.000 doing that right now. It calls it a donut hole. 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:41.160 So it's compassion with practical you know, accountability and application 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:42.120 of the current laws. 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:44.320 Wouldn't that be reality? When's the thing? 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:48.560 Yeah, you don't really have to do anything beyond what 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:51.000 you can do right now. But you're choosing not to. 0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:53.960 Arguably the only thing you need to do is maybe 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:58.000 put some more resources into detox facilities, because unfortunately they 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:00.360 have chosen not to do that up until this point. 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:02.400 But you've got all the laws on the books that 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:05.560 you need. You just need enforcement. You need actual enforcement. 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:07.280 And oftentimes, you know, every once in a while, they'll 0:15:07.320 --> 0:15:09.400 be like a sweep of some homeless encampment, whether it's 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:12.200 la or Seattle or anywhere else. But you're not pushing 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:15.000 them into treatment. You're just pushing them literally in some cases, 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:18.360 across the street for them to reset a new camp. 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:20.960 And then you say, oh, look we've made our contact, 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:23.960 we've offered them resources, but they're not going to take 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:26.120 you up on your resources. If you make it so 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:29.040 easy to continue to be a homeless drug addict, you 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:31.720 actually have to have a carrot and stick approach. In 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:35.280 every single jurisdiction that has done that, and that includes 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:39.720 San Diego, in some cases, Austin, Marysville, Washington, they actually 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:42.000 take a harder line approach to this and they see 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:45.520 actual data. Orange County is another great example. If you 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:49.160 are right now in this nonprofit space and you're working 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:52.000 with the homeless and you're getting these big contracts. I'm 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:54.960 okay with nonprofits getting the contracts. You actually have to 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:57.320 show that you have results, and so if you've been 0:15:57.360 --> 0:16:00.360 in charge this entire time and homelessness has gotten worse, 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:03.760 you do not get to continue cashing those checks. I 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:07.280 want these groups to understand they need to put themselves 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:09.360 out of business. But you've got a lot of groups 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:11.400 that continue to get a whole lot of money because 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:13.600 they know that homelessness doesn't have to get better under 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:16.280 their watch. They have job security. I want to take 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:18.720 away that job security. 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Now I have a perspective on 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:31.240 this and what's really happening, but I want to. 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:32.800 I want to pick your brain. 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:35.399 What do you think is driving more and more people 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:38.200 identifying as America First as opposed to MAGA. 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:40.800 Well, Andrew and has always thanks for having me on. 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:45.720 I think the I think the Massy defeat settled a 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:49.200 lot of this for me and what's going on. Look, 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:53.400 I think that MAGA has changed, and you know, who 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:58.000 identifies as MAGA has changed. In the case of Thomas Massey, 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:01.080 that was that was a problem for him because they 0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:04.600 changed into older white voters who tend to vote at 0:19:04.680 --> 0:19:09.760 higher rates and primaries. And if you are still wanting, 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:12.199 if you're not a traditional Republican and you lean to 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:15.520 the right, you may be mad and upset about some 0:19:15.600 --> 0:19:18.560 things that have been going on. So when you get 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:22.960 the chance, you'll identify as America first instead, and I 0:19:23.000 --> 0:19:26.760 think that is an issue for the Republican Party. A 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:29.120 midterm was always going to be tough. And Andrew, we talked 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:32.000 so much in twenty four about the low prop voters. 0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:36.080 Getting these low proposition voters out. Propensity voters out and 0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:39.000 under forty five millennials and down were so key to 0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:41.760 Donald Trump winning and that was always going to be 0:19:41.800 --> 0:19:42.320