1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's podcast sponsored by Hillsdale College, All Things 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Hillsdale Hillsdale dot ed or I encourage you to take 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: advantage of the many free online courses there, and of 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: course I'll listen to the Hillsdale Dialogue all of them 5 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: at hugh for Hillsdale dot com or just Google, Apple, 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: iTunes and Hillsdale. Good Morning, Glory and Amy Greats a Maridam. 7 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: He he at broadcasting today from the campus at Colorado 8 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: Christian University in Lakewood, Colorado. Sort of a return to 9 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: home from me. I taught here ten years ago when 10 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: the late Senator Bill Armstrong requited me to the campus, 11 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: and she had lots of old friends, lots of old 12 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: students who are not so young anymore. I'll talk with 13 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: a few of them to the program, but first let's 14 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: begin with updates on the war. President Trump spoke this 15 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: morning with podcaster Jake Paul cut number one this country. 16 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 2: I mean, we did this excursion. 17 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 3: We had to do it. Wipe out evil. 18 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 2: Sometimes you have evil, and for forty seven years they've 19 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: been killing people, you know, in the. 20 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 3: Most violent way. 21 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 2: The roadside bombs all over the place was ninety five 22 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: percent of them are from Iran and Salomoni that was 23 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 2: the one which took him out. We did a lot 24 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 2: of things to beat two bombers and all of this 25 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 2: whole thing that we're doing now is people have waited 26 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 2: for forty seven years for it to happen, so we 27 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 2: have to do it right. But our military has been unbelieved. 28 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 3: He's so right. 29 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: We are winning decisively. We have not yet achieved a 30 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: decisive win. We have to stay the course. I think 31 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: the President is intent on doing that to reduce the 32 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: military capability of Iran to threaten its neighbors, destroy their 33 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: nuclear weaponry program, destroy their ability to protect and restart again. 34 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 3: And we are doing that. 35 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: Moreover, the USSS Tripoli, which is a Marine Corps Expeditionary 36 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: Unit MEU, is now en route to the Gulf. That 37 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: means marines. That's like the worst news that Iran could 38 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: have received. If the Marines are coming. Let me now 39 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: go to General Kine with the worst news today because 40 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: we woke up to learn we'd suffered more American serviceman 41 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: casualties this morning. Here is showing of the Joint Chiefs 42 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: Kane talking about the crash of the Casey one thirty 43 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: five this morning. 44 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 3: In Iraq, Cuttnomber eleven. 45 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 4: Before I start with an update, I also want to 46 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 4: address the tragic loss of our Case one thirty five 47 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 4: refueling aircraft yesterday. The incident occurred over friendly territory in 48 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 4: western Iraq while the crew was on a combat mission, 49 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 4: and again was not the result as Senkam has said, 50 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 4: was not the result of hostile or friendly fire. We're 51 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 4: still treating this as an active rescue and recovery operation, 52 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 4: as Sencom announced this morning. For airmen have been recovered 53 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 4: and the Air Force and US Central Command will provide 54 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 4: updates as information becomes available. Please keep these brave airmen, 55 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 4: their families, friends, and units in your thoughts in the 56 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 4: coming hours and days. Our service members make an incredible 57 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 4: sacrifice to go forward and do the things that the 58 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 4: nation asks of them. It's a reminder of the true 59 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 4: cost of the day medication and commitment of the Joint Force. 60 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: At at Breakfast I spoke at this morning at Colorado 61 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: Christian University, we had a young student. His father is 62 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: deployed an airman officer in the Niti's Air Force in 63 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: the Middle East, and her brothers at the Air Force Academy. 64 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: Less than one percent of America's families popularate one hundred 65 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: percent of our military, and our debt to them is 66 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: never ending. So, as the General said, to keep them 67 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,399 Speaker 1: in your prayers, family and the deceased. He also gave 68 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: us an update on what has been accomplished in the 69 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 1: first thirteen days of the World Cut number ten, General came. 70 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 4: In just the first thirteen days of this operation, our 71 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 4: artillery forces have made history. They fired the first precision 72 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 4: strike missiles ever used in combat, reaching deep into enemy territory. 73 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 4: They've used army attackers to sink multiple ships, including a submarine. 74 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 4: And they've done all of this with the precision and 75 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 4: determination that comes from relentless training and trust in each 76 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 4: other and in their weapons. 77 00:03:58,760 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 3: Now. 78 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: Secretary also made a pledge this morning about the Strait 79 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: of Horror moves CUT number four. 80 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 5: I want to emphasize what the Chairman said about that 81 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 5: the only thing prohibiting transit in the Straits right now 82 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 5: is Iran shooting at shipping. It is open for transit. 83 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 3: Should Iran not do that? Now? 84 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 5: There's a reason why we chose as one of our 85 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 5: primary objectives destroy the navy. We understood the ability to 86 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 5: interdict shipping is something Iran has done for forty years. 87 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 5: It's key terrain. They've used it as leverage. The world 88 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 5: is seeing what they'll do to fight back in that context, 89 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 5: and so we've heard them talk about taking various measures, 90 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 5: and we're planning for all of them. So we have 91 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 5: a plan for every option here. We're working with our 92 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 5: inneragency partners, and that's not a straight we're going to 93 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 5: allow to remain contested or with a lack of flow 94 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 5: of commercial goods. 95 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 6: So we're aware of that. 96 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 5: We're laser focused on our military objectives, but also want 97 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 5: to make sure our partners across this government understand we're 98 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 5: working with you to make sure that energy flows, and 99 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 5: that is. 100 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: The best news of all energy is following guys. Goyles 101 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: up around one hundred dollars a barrel in three weeks. 102 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: I'll bet she's back to sixty. I could be wrong. 103 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna switch and talk with my friend Brittany Vessily. 104 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: Brittany was the first graduating. 105 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 3: What year did you graduate, Brittany twelve, twenty. 106 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: Twelve, so she was here before I was here. Brittany, 107 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: what's your job currently? 108 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 7: I'm currently the executive director of the Caleder Catholic Conference, 109 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 7: the United Voice of the Catholic Bishops of Colorado. 110 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: Now, the reason I like having Brittany on is that 111 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: Archbishop Chepew, who first brought me to dinner Denver decades ago, 112 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: is now the retired Archbishop of Philadelphia. Poured a lot 113 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: of resources into ecumenical outreach. He was a good friend 114 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: of Colorado Christian University. You were not yourself a Catholic 115 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: when you were at CCU, and it's a very welcoming place. 116 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: Everybody comes here. 117 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 7: Correct, Yes, And it was the first time I was 118 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 7: introduced to Jesus was at CCU. So I dead of 119 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 7: gratitude to my time at CCU and really where I 120 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 7: started falling in love with theology. 121 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 3: Now you are all so. 122 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 1: My co religions is a Catholic and you've got four 123 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: kids outside steering in, Yes, and they should come in 124 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: and run them on. 125 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 3: How do you know my booking. 126 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 7: Producer, Daniel Hitchin is a good friend of mine. I 127 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 7: used to babysit her kids when I was in DC 128 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 7: working at the Heritage Foundation. 129 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: So what did you do for Heritage after you left 130 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: Colorado Christian University? 131 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 7: I worked in the Domestic Policy Department in Education. But 132 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 7: I was also there during Doma and Berga fell, so 133 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 7: I touched the religious liberty angles as well. 134 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. 135 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: Okay, So what are you doing for the bishops in 136 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: Colorado and how is the work of the church going 137 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: in the centennial state? 138 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 3: Sure? 139 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 7: So, I'm the chief Policy director of the four Bishops 140 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 7: of Colorado, representing the three dioceses at the Colorido Capital 141 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 7: and in other areas of government affairs. I do primarily 142 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 7: lobbing from January through May. In Colorado. It seems like 143 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 7: there is a bad bill every week right now, whether 144 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 7: it's a tax on religious liberty referencing the Calor Anti 145 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 7: Discrimination Act. We've been having huge fights on life the 146 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 7: last four years. So every week it seems to be 147 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,799 Speaker 7: another issue pertaining to life, religious liberty in the family 148 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 7: that we're having to deal with. Tennial state. 149 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 1: Are you making progress because it's sort of not a 150 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: super majority anymore, but it's a blue state and it's 151 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: all blue. 152 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 3: Who are your go tos? Who are your stalwarts? 153 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 7: Well, we did make a deal this week that killed 154 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 7: Senate Bill ninety seven, which would have decriminalized prostitution in 155 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 7: the state. Of Colorado and that would have meant more 156 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 7: human trafficking, more prostitution, and then also more abortion. So 157 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 7: that's a bill that the Senate sponsor, henrich Sen, who 158 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 7: is a Catholic and I called him out on Twitter 159 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 7: for being a Catholic and supporting this bill, said he 160 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 7: will bring back in the near future. But that is 161 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 7: just one effort. We have a very progressive majority in 162 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 7: bolth chambers. They're not a super majority, but it's still 163 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 7: very difficult to get a lot of work done. So 164 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 7: it's very important to get more voices like ours and 165 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 7: the Capitol. 166 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: I joked with my breakfast and lunch audience today that 167 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: the first exits from California all came to Colorado and 168 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: turned to red state blue, but they brought the policies 169 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: with them. The second wave went to Florida and they 170 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: did not bring the policy with who had to fight 171 00:07:58,040 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: it back and clad back. How do you think that 172 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: battle is going at the state level. We have American 173 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: Legislative Exchange Council is a great sponsor of ours. 174 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 3: How is it doing in Colorado? Are they going to 175 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 3: move up the rankings. 176 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 7: It's very interesting because you have infighting in the majority parties. 177 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 7: You have the very progressive and the more establishment Democrats 178 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 7: fighting with each other, and you also have the GOP 179 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 7: that's been fighting with those who are just fed up 180 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 7: with the status quo and those who are trying to 181 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 7: make concessions to get along. So you have both chambers 182 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 7: having internal caucus divisions while also dealing with some very 183 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 7: heinous policy. In the state of Colorado. 184 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 3: Is Governor Polist running for president. 185 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 7: He's going to try, so that's another thing that we're 186 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 7: looking at for twenty twenty eight. Right now, Governor pols 187 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 7: is a lame duck and he didn't want to see 188 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 7: certain bills be passed. Another bill that was introduced that 189 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 7: he hopefully will intervene on is HB twelve ninety two, 190 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 7: which would go after the scholarship granting organizations in the 191 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 7: state based on HR one, including KADA. So Colors Anti 192 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 7: Discrimination Act is called KADA. It now includes sexual orientation, 193 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 7: gender identity, and gender expression as protected classes the Non 194 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 7: Discrimination Code, and that would affect all faith based schools 195 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 7: in the state of Colorado. 196 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: Well, that's unconstitutional, So we'll have a well, arch bishopric 197 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: Quilla or his successor bring the lawsuit that needs to 198 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: be brought. 199 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 7: We're already in lawsuits on this, so the Universal pre 200 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 7: K program. We have two lawsuits going on with the 201 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 7: Beckett Funds. It also had to do with Katta and 202 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 7: we also, as you mentioned, we have our Specipicquilla has 203 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 7: been a tremendous advocate on life and religious liberty. Bishop 204 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 7: Golka just last month was announced as his successor and 205 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 7: he will be installed on March twenty fifth at the 206 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 7: Nasair Western Stock Show Arena. 207 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 3: Actually three in. 208 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: A row for Denver, three great bishops and if O 209 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 1: Archbishop chip Ugh is listening, you've left it in good hands. 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Whatever 229 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 1: you do, though, thank you in advance for your generosity. 230 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: I'll be right back with Eli Lake for an update 231 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: on the war right after. 232 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 3: That Welcome Back in America. 233 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: I'm playing the Marine Corps him because the USS Tripoli 234 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: is being dispatched from Japan with a MEW a Marine 235 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: Expeditionary Unit. That means five thousand marines assorted warships as 236 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: well as the Big Deck. What does that mean? I 237 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: turned to Eli the Free Press host of Breaking History 238 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: podcasts as well. Eli, that's a late addition to the 239 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: four structure around Iran. What do you think at Port Thames? 240 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 3: I think it could be one of two things. 241 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 8: It could be exactly what you need to seize carg Island, 242 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 8: which is the central point in which Iran ships and 243 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 8: refines most of the oil that exports, which would give 244 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 8: America and Donald Trump a stranglehold over the Iranian economy 245 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 8: and significant leverage in a similar kind of relationship it 246 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 8: has right now with the Venezuelan regime. Or it could 247 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 8: be preparing for a daring mission to try to get 248 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 8: those suitcases or not suitcases, but the kilograms of enriched 249 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 8: uranium buried underneath the facilities in Isfahan and Fordoh. 250 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: You know what the Marines are known for is amphibious assault. 251 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: They break open the door, Eli, And I wasn't thinking 252 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: about so much. I was thinking about the area across 253 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 1: from cars Island, which may make it vulnerable to hypersonics 254 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: and the short rain missiles sweeping kind of motion. And 255 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: you know, the Iranians really don't want to mess with 256 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: the Marines, do they? 257 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 3: No, they do not, No one should. They're the best. Yeah, 258 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 3: no better favorite, by the way, whne about the Marines? Yeah? 259 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 8: My favorite line about the Marines, I think came from 260 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 8: an HBO series about the Iraq War, in which someone 261 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 8: explains every few years, America just unleashes this wild attack 262 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 8: dog on its enemies, and that's the Marine Corps. And 263 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 8: that's kind of how I feel about it. 264 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: You're right, I remember that's also from the Second Golf War, 265 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,439 Speaker 1: the March to Baghdad. A marine was interviewed, what is 266 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: your job to beat the army to Baghdad? 267 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 3: Sir? Their answer, I'll never forget that. 268 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 8: Yeah, But I would say this that it also sort 269 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 8: of shows that, you know, I mean, the President Trump 270 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 8: is quoted, maybe fragments of quotes, you know, every other 271 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 8: day saying maybe we've accomplished most of our mission and 272 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 8: maybe it's trying to like, you know, wrap it up 273 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 8: and everything like that. This suggests that the war is 274 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 8: not yet over, and that's important in terms of the 275 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 8: perceptions of the enemy in this case. 276 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: Now, I want to talk about media narratives. The one 277 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: that's driving me crazy now is that the war must 278 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 1: be over before the president sits down with General Secretary 279 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: g You know, that wasn't actually Nixon's approach with Mao. 280 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: He went and saw Maw when the Vietnam War was underway. 281 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: And so I'm just thinking, where do these narratives come from? 282 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: Eli They're invented by people with agendas. How do they 283 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: get past editors. 284 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 8: Well, you know, first of all, we are in a 285 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 8: twenty four hour news environment, and there is a need 286 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 8: for pundits and analysts and columnists and reporters to say 287 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 8: something anything in order to kind of fill the dead error. 288 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 8: And it's hard dealing with uncertainty. So that's the charitable explanation. 289 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 8: But I think there's also just a sense of, you know, 290 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 8: half the country despises you know, Trump with the power 291 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 8: of a thousand burning suns, and if it's his war, 292 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 8: then they're against it, and that's all they really need 293 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 8: to know. I think, I'm I don't think we're out 294 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 8: of the woods by any stretch, and you could see 295 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 8: it ending a couple of ways. But even if more 296 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 8: I mean I would I think you and I would 297 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 8: both love to see, you know, a new revolution and 298 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 8: a transition to a much more decent and better government 299 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 8: for the Iranians. But if that doesn't happen, that seems 300 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 8: maybe at this point to be less likely, and that 301 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 8: a remnant of the regime of much more weakened is surviving, 302 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 8: whatever the status of their supreme leader, which we still 303 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 8: haven't seen evidence that he's you know, all there other 304 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 8: than this written statement, but we haven't seen him on video. 305 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 8: A weakened Iran, without the without a nuclear program, without missiles, 306 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 8: without the ability to terrorize. 307 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 3: The region. 308 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 8: Is a victory, even if it might be considered at 309 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 8: a partial victory, because you still leave these you know, 310 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 8: these vicious thugs in place. But if they're weakened and 311 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 8: they're significantly set back, that's a good outcome. And it 312 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 8: doesn't preclude the prospect that after a couple of months 313 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 8: and financial hardship, that you could see that color revolution. 314 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 8: And it also doesn't preclude the idea that much like Lebanon, 315 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 8: the Israelis reserve the right to go in and take 316 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 8: care of problems before they start. So I don't necessarily 317 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 8: think an end of the war with the regime in 318 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 8: place means that the regime has won or sticks around forever. 319 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: John potter Artz always accuses me of being the optimist optimist, 320 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: but I'm fairly optimistic about how this is going. I 321 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: think we are winning decisively, but we have not yet 322 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: achieved a decisive win. But we can get there. And 323 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: I would recommend to everyone a podcast called The Goodfellows, 324 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: which comes out of the Hoover Institution, Neil Ferguson, John Cochrane, 325 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: HR Master General McMaster and yesterday they had the right 326 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: Honorable Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice. And at one point 327 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: Neil suggested maybe it wasn't going so well and that 328 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: the Iranians had the whole card. And boy did doctor 329 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: Rice come out of her share symbolically and remind him 330 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: about this regime from nineteen She just rattled off seven 331 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: the hostage crisis, the Babirute bombing, the Cobar towers, the 332 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: Marines dead, soldier sailor's Erman marine. 333 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 3: Dead in Iran. 334 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: She's ready for bear, and she is not ready to 335 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: say we're on a clock. I don't think we're on 336 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: a clocky lit. 337 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 8: I think I mean, listen, the answer is with Trump. 338 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 8: That's the bottom line. Okay, so it's what Trump decides. 339 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 8: But so far Trump's been you know, he said a 340 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 8: lot of things, but I think he's kind of stuck 341 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 8: with the sort of larger mission at this point. And 342 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 8: you know, we'll see, but I don't think. I don't 343 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 8: think it's necessarily over yet. But at the same time, 344 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 8: even if it was to wrap up in the next 345 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 8: few days, there's been some pretty decisive blows that have 346 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 8: been dealt. I still think there's more that has to 347 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 8: be done, and we'll find out more kind of in 348 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 8: the aftermath, but I would not. 349 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 3: Call this a win. 350 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 8: And I'm amazed at some of the people, you know, 351 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 8: professors who sort of do this stuff for a living 352 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 8: and study Iran, are telling us that, you know, Iran 353 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 8: is in this great position, it's an oil hedgemon. Now nonsense. 354 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 8: I think that we'll find the straits of her moves. 355 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 8: Will take some work, but I think these I think 356 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 8: the US and Israel will be able. 357 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:36,479 Speaker 3: To handle it. 358 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: Well, that's what it comes down to. I don't think 359 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 1: we've won. I think we are decisively winning, but I 360 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: don't think we are anything remotely. 361 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 3: The world is a. 362 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: Much better place today than it was fourteen months ago. 363 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: It is a much better place today than it was 364 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: fourteen days ago, and in another fourteen days it could 365 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 1: be even better because of Cuban. And I did want 366 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 1: to get your comment on the extraordinary announcement by the 367 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: dictator in Cuba last What do you think is. 368 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 3: Going on there? 369 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 8: I hope that we are seeing the beginning of the 370 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 8: end of that awful regime and something much better. That's 371 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 8: the I mean of those of us who kind of 372 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 8: I wasn't around for the original Cuban revolution, but this 373 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 8: is unfinished business now going back, you know, more than 374 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 8: sixty years. So if there is a prospect to get 375 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 8: something more decent for Cuba, I mean, I think that's 376 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 8: another another feather in Trump's cap at this point. And 377 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 8: I think at a certain point, I would imagine that 378 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 8: you can argue that there's been things that Trump has 379 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 8: done that and I certainly would say I certainly disagree 380 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 8: with it, are going to be not great for his legacy, 381 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 8: but you have to account for Venezuela, Cuba and figures 382 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 8: crossed Iran. 383 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 3: That's enormous. 384 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 8: I think that's that's that's a kind of foreign policy 385 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 8: legacy that we associate with the greats, whether it's you know, Truman, Fdr. Reagan, 386 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 8: and Trump at least in that regard, will have a 387 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 8: chance to sort of be in that categ. 388 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,199 Speaker 1: And I don't think he's going to allow himself to 389 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: be called the loser on Iran. 390 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 3: I just don't think that's in the cards. I agree. 391 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: Eli Lake can be followed on x at Eli Lake 392 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,719 Speaker 1: Breaking History Podcast as his podcast from the Free Press. 393 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: He's a contributor to the Free Press. He's a welcome 394 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: guest here anytime. Thank you, Eli. I'll be right back 395 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: from Colorado Christian University. I'm jew Hewitt Broadcast and today 396 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: on the campus at Colorado Christian University in Lakewood, Colorado, 397 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: where I'll be giving a talk tonight dedicated to the 398 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: role of Christian institutions and battling anti Semitism. 399 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 3: Long scheduled. 400 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 1: Did not intend for it to follow an attack on 401 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 1: a synagogue in West Bloomfield yesterday, or four terrorist attacks 402 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: in fourteen days, But it's timely talk about all that 403 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: and more. Ben Dominich joins me Fox News contributor extraordinaire 404 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: now the head of commentary over at The Daily Wire 405 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 1: as well. Ben, how are you and how do you 406 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: like the new gig at the Daily Wire. 407 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 6: Well, I'll tell you, Hugh, I was just on a 408 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,719 Speaker 6: conversation including our friends Andrew Claven, Michael Noles and then 409 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 6: Shapiro or Shapiro and Noles who were absolutely yelling at 410 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 6: each other. So it was it's been a test of fire, 411 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 6: let's put it that way. It's a fun time. It's 412 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 6: an interesting time to join a new publication, and we've 413 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 6: got some great writers over there, and thank you for 414 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 6: recommending it. Josh Holly particularly has a good piece today 415 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 6: on the abortion situation across the country. I hope people 416 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 6: will check it out. 417 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: If people aren't yelling at each other in a newsroom, 418 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: they're not doing their job, and so I thank you 419 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 1: went into the right place. More questions, Yeah, four questions 420 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: for two segments here. Your assessment of how the war 421 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: is going, Your assessment of how America is doing during 422 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 1: the war, Your assessment of the American media during the war, 423 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 1: and then the political perils and pluses for Donald Trump. 424 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: Let's start with your assessment of the war. 425 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,479 Speaker 6: I think the war is actually going pretty much as 426 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 6: you would expect it to in the sense that except 427 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 6: that it's actually moved. And this is something that the 428 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 6: President's correct about saying, it's actually moved a lot faster 429 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 6: than I think a lot of people might have expected, 430 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 6: perhaps not under this military that has been planning this 431 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 6: and wargaming this for so long, and given our close 432 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 6: relationship with Israel, the effectiveness of those early attacks, if anything, 433 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 6: was much more than you might have expected. At the 434 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 6: same time, I think that with the expectations built in 435 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,239 Speaker 6: the simple fact that the American people and we can 436 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 6: get into this had even higher expectations, perhaps expectations that 437 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 6: were not realistic, given the fact that almost every military 438 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 6: conflict that the President has participated in or gotten into 439 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 6: was over in the matter of days. And that's something 440 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 6: that is this is not going to entail. It is 441 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 6: going to be weeks potentially. 442 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 1: Must the USS Triple A just a part of Japan 443 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: with an NEU Marine Exhibitionary Unit other warships along with 444 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: the Triple A? 445 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 3: What does that signal to you? 446 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 6: Ben To me, it signals the fact that this was 447 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 6: always going to require potential ground presence, especially when it 448 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 6: comes to some of the different steps that need to 449 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 6: be taken. At the same time, I don't think that 450 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 6: the President intends to have any kind of large footprint. 451 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 6: There's anything we've learned about this president that he is 452 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 6: a visceral reaction to the deaths of American soldiers. He 453 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 6: hates it, He absolutely affors it. And so for people 454 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 6: who are saying that he is somehow engaged or in 455 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,160 Speaker 6: the beginnings of the Forever War or some type of 456 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 6: long term land conflict, I just do not think that 457 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 6: there is any evidence to support that whatsoever. That is 458 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 6: not the way this president thinks or works. In fact, 459 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 6: I think he wants to avoid that. At the same time, 460 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 6: as you know, there are reasons why regime change wars, 461 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 6: or even wars of this nature cannot fully be conducted 462 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 6: by air power. 463 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: Yesterday I listened to doctor Rice Connolly's The Rice on 464 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: the Goodfellow's podcast with General McMaster, Nile Ferguson, John Cocklan. 465 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 1: It's a fabulous podcast, but she really brushed back Neil 466 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: Ferguson when he suggested that may maybe the Iranians have 467 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: the upper hand. 468 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 3: I don't think they have the upper hand at all. 469 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 6: I think that I realized that sometimes Neil says, and 470 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 6: Neil's friend, and I'm sure he's a friend of yours 471 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 6: as well, he sometimes says things to be provocative. I 472 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 6: don't know if he was saying that to be provocative, 473 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 6: but I don't think you can advance that argument on 474 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 6: any basis. By the way, there are so many arguments 475 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 6: being advanced, and you were answer those four questions. There's 476 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 6: so many arguments being advanced by the American media that 477 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 6: have no factual relevance, no relationship with the truth whatsoever. 478 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 6: I mean, this ridiculous idea that mining the straits of 479 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 6: Hormuz or shutting it down was something that the American 480 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 6: military never considered. Have you seen this one? Have you seen? 481 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 6: I mean, that is ludicrous, That is I mean, sorry, 482 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 6: this is this is basic war gaming. What do you 483 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 6: think these people do in the Pentagon? What do you 484 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 6: think that the people do at SAMCOM when they are 485 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 6: planning these types of things. Of course they assume that's 486 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 6: going to happen. They know what's going to happen, and 487 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 6: I think put the assumptions built in to so many 488 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 6: of these journalists. You know, you saw this actually just 489 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 6: as a sideline. You saw this this week with the 490 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 6: commentary from Paul Mgala, who is somebody who is actually 491 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 6: pretty respected in Democrats circles. So I don't won't know 492 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 6: why at this point, you know, going on air and 493 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 6: saying Scott Jennings that you know, he believed that Pete 494 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 6: Hegsith was personally needing these millions of dollars worth of 495 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 6: lobster tales and the idea that Democrats have become so 496 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 6: divorced as if they don't know anyone in the American military. 497 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 6: But they wouldn't understand what was going on there. It's 498 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 6: it's just lappable on a certain level. Get I mean, 499 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 6: Mary Catherine posted this, and so I'm not going to 500 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 6: steal with that credit or get a friend in the military. Please, yep, 501 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 6: begging of you. 502 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: I agree with that now. Ben Doctor Rice in this 503 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: podcast pointed out to people that in the two thousand 504 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: and three invasion of Iraq, oil went to one hundred 505 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: and forty three dollars a barrel. We're at one hundred 506 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: dollars a barrel and maybe a little bit lower today. 507 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: I expect that the American people, for regime damage or 508 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: change in Iran, will put up with a bucket gallon 509 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: higher gas for a few months. I really don't think 510 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 1: that will destroy the November elections, But the American media 511 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: intend to use this to destroy, and by that I 512 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: mean legacy media. I'm amazed at their narratives. My favorite one, 513 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 1: which is crept In, is that Trump is going to 514 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 1: wrap the war up by the time you sit down 515 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: with Jijinping. 516 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 3: That that's not a whole clop, right, that comes from nowhere? 517 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, well, I will What I will say 518 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 6: is this the speculative idea that the Chinese would like 519 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 6: to insert themselves into this situation as a potential interlocutor. 520 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 6: That is something that I think is real in the 521 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 6: sense that they will attempt to do it. The idea 522 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 6: that Donald Trump would accept that, I think is laughable. 523 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 6: You would have to be in such dire straits with 524 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 6: the way the war is going that you know, he 525 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 6: would have to be desperate to do something like that, 526 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 6: and also he would be completely judged as having failed 527 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 6: if something like that happens, because you know, you presume 528 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 6: that something like that allows a rump regime to continue, 529 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 6: allows for a major Chinese military presence, perhaps permanently in 530 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 6: the strait. I mean, that's not something that is a win. 531 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 6: I don't think that there's any way you would accept that. 532 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 6: But look, I assume that the Chinese will try to 533 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 6: do something like that because it's in their nature. And 534 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 6: one more thing, by the way, about the gas price conversation, 535 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 6: I think one of the things that's happening here, Republicans 536 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,479 Speaker 6: need to understand how much better they need to defend 537 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 6: these decisions that the president is making, and how much 538 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 6: more benefit of the doubt they need to give him 539 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 6: about this. They're nervous about their elections, They're nervous about 540 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 6: keeping their jobs. They're worried about the price of the 541 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 6: probe being something that dooms them in November. Now, I 542 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 6: don't know about you, Hugh, but I think President actually 543 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 6: has kind of written that off that he believes this 544 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 6: is worth doing, regardless of whether it means Republicans lose 545 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 6: the House or not. I think that he is of 546 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 6: that much mindset. You can take issue with that if 547 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 6: you're a member of the House Republicans, but I think 548 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 6: they should be out there defending this and saying, look, 549 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 6: this has been America's policy, you know, going back, you know, 550 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,479 Speaker 6: as long as most of them have been alive. We 551 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 6: need to pursue it at a moment when Iran is 552 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 6: at its weakest and we need to prevent We've already 553 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 6: prevented their ability to throw out the kind of ballistic 554 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 6: missile threat that they know that they have always held 555 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 6: over the Gulf region. We've destroyed their navy. We are 556 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 6: going iotola one iotola after another. In terms of our process, 557 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 6: I think the President needs to be given the benefit 558 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 6: of the doubt, given his success in foreign policy and 559 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 6: a lot of these Republicans on the hill, particularly on 560 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 6: the outside. I think they need to, you know, find 561 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 6: their testicular fortitude when it comes to making any arguments 562 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 6: about this. 563 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: They have to make an argument about the last fourteen 564 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 1: months been the change in the position of America in 565 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: fourteen months with the capitation of the Maduro regime. Cuba 566 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: is about to come in from the cold after sixty 567 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 1: year and Iran is that is on its knees. I 568 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: don't know if it'll fall over yet. Might take a 569 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 1: year or two after the kinetic phase is done, but 570 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 1: it might yet fall over. He's changed America's position in 571 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: the world for the better by a lot in fourteen months. 572 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 6: Absolutely, And I think that the truth is that many 573 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 6: of the things that he has done are things that 574 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 6: the foreign policy establishment right and left like. I mean, 575 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 6: this is not just Democrats we're talking about when we 576 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 6: talk about this. They have assumed that a lot of 577 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 6: these things were impossible, were impossible to achieve. He has 578 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 6: proven them wrong. And I think there's resentment in that, 579 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 6: and I think that there is a there is a 580 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 6: cohort among them that would really like to see him 581 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 6: fail in this, even though, by the way, there are 582 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 6: also people who advocated for getting rid of the Iranian 583 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 6: regime in different ways over the years, with the exception 584 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 6: of course, of the pod Save Iran Bros. Who are 585 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 6: you know? It's still somehow still around after being wrong 586 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 6: about everything related to Iran exit. 587 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: To the break, Ben, I do not believe anybody but 588 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: Trump would have done this. This was the last chance, 589 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: and I think he's taken it. Do you agree with that? 590 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 6: I agree? And I also think it speaks to what 591 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 6: a president can do when he knows he's not running 592 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 6: for reelections. Yes, he has a legacy on his line, 593 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 6: but he also has the ability to do things and 594 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 6: pull the trigger on choices that he knows he is 595 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 6: going to have to live with legacy wise regarding regardless 596 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 6: of how things turn out. But he understands that another president, 597 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,239 Speaker 6: you know, potentially at Jad Evans or someone like that 598 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 6: who comes after him, may not be in a position 599 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 6: to do it. He understood the time was right, and 600 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 6: to have the bravery and the courage to do it, 601 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 6: I think is impressive. 602 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 3: Don't go anywhere, America. 603 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to talk with Ben during the break player 604 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: on the podcast and over on my YouTube channel as well. 605 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: Stay ten is a Salem News Channel. I'll be right 606 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: back because they able to sail. Dialogue is coming up 607 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: today as well. Stay with us. Clean water is not complicated, 608 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 1: but it is essential. Without it, public health suffer, education declines, 609 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: economic stability well weekends if it doesn't collapse. 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I 632 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: think he has only upside if he sees it through, 633 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 1: and only downside if he quits too soon. How do 634 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: you assess the situation. 635 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 6: I think his situation at this point is that he 636 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 6: is still the bullish on the chances of achieving their aims. 637 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 6: I don't know if that's going to be the case 638 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 6: in two weeks. I don't know if the people who 639 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 6: are surrounding him, who, by the way, are also working 640 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 6: with I believe people outside the administration. I mean I 641 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 6: don't believe this. I know that are essentially trying to 642 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 6: work the refs inside of it to advance the argument that, hey, 643 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 6: you know, you're putting everything at risk. You don't you 644 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 6: shouldn't go that far down this road, and you know, 645 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 6: look and look at the prices of the pump, and 646 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 6: look at all these things they're going to lose all well, look, 647 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 6: I actually think that the Republicans and the especially the 648 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,479 Speaker 6: Republicans who are most supportive of President Trump, overwhelmingly support 649 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 6: this war. And I think that the thing that we 650 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 6: are seeing going forward is that the politics of this 651 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 6: is entirely dependent on success. Meaning if he backs out 652 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 6: too early, there is going to be a penalty for that. 653 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 6: People will point to it as being a mistake. 654 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 3: This is the key thing. 655 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: If he quits early because of internal pressure or the 656 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: price of gas, or because too many casualties are absorbed 657 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 1: and we're already into a dozen and it's terrible, it's 658 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: a horrible cost to bear. But if he quits too early, 659 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: it will haunt him through history. And if he wins, 660 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: it will solidify his place in history. If he wins 661 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: along with Cuba and Venezuela, it's an extraordinary presidency, maybe 662 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: in the most significant since Reagan's. 663 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you are not exaggerating in that vein 664 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 6: at all. And look at the other aspect of this 665 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 6: that we should keep in mind is I think that 666 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 6: only someone in his position could have made made this 667 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 6: kind of decision without without having the type of palms 668 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 6: that other presidents might have about the risk of their legacy. 669 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 6: Why risk it? Why go down this road? Why try 670 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 6: this unless you had faith in the fact that the 671 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 6: American military and our work with the Israelis can achieve 672 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 6: this end. And so I think you have to stick 673 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 6: it through. You cannot just you succumb to the ideas 674 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,239 Speaker 6: being pushed by some, including some people who I think 675 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 6: woul be lost count as friends or at least as 676 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 6: colleagues within this industry, that there needs to be some 677 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 6: kind of oh, slow down, slow down, go to Congress, 678 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 6: slow down, you know, try to you know, do some 679 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 6: other speech to try to get people on your side. 680 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 6: Slow down, no, press ahead and win. That is the 681 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 6: only way that you will be judged on this, and 682 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 6: he understands winning. 683 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: Ben Dominich as always a pleasure. Go and read him 684 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: over at the Daily Wire, look at his new commentary section, 685 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: and hear him again next Friday. If we are lucky 686 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: right here on the Uuit Show, follo him on x 687 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: AS while at the Dominiic stay tuned