1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: American student organization in the country, fighting for the future 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: of our republic. My call is to fight evil and 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable. But 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: if the most important thing is doing good, you'll end 7 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: up purposeful. College is a scam, everybody. You got to 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: stop sending your kids to college. You should get married 9 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. 10 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: Go start at turning point, you would say, college chapter. 11 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 1: Go start aturning point, you say high school chapter. Go 12 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: find out how your church can get involved. Sign up 13 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: and become an activist. I gave my life to the 14 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: Lord in fifth grade, most important decision I ever made 15 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: in my life, and I encourage you to do the same. 16 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: Here I am Lord, Use me. Buckle up, everybody, Here 17 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: we go. The Charlie Kirk Show is proudly sponsored by 18 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: Preserved Gold, leading gold and silver experts and the only 19 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: precious metals company. I recommend to my family, friends and viewers. 20 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: Well, with no further ado, We'll have an opportunity now 21 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: to introduce our special guest speaker who I would characterize 22 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 2: as a forerunner. 23 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: In the gen Z and millennial nation. 24 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: He is an adroit political analyst. He is a very effective, 25 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 2: i would say conservative media commentator as well as a 26 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 2: very effective political activist. He's on the inside of the 27 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 2: Trump administration. He's got Trump's ear. 28 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: He is a. 29 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 3: Confounder of College Millennial Snowflakes. He's the founder of Turning 30 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 3: Point USA and Turning Point Action. A real friend of 31 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 3: the little babies and of preborn and so would you 32 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 3: join me in welcoming our speaker tonight, one and only 33 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk. 34 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: Hello, everybody. Great to see you, and oh jeez, thank 35 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: you for having me and Dan. You're doing an amazing job. 36 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: As always, this has been a very eventful couple months. 37 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 4: You know. 38 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: It's funny. After the election, a lot of people just 39 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: kind of have been taken it easy. And I don't 40 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: do that very well. I don't rest very well. So 41 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: we have been more busy than ever. I did one 42 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: hundred hours of campus debates this last semester alone, and 43 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: you've probably seen the videos and seen the impact and 44 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,639 Speaker 1: the billions and billions of yews. I'm going to get 45 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: back to that in a second, and I'm learning how 46 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: to say no. I'm getting better at it because I 47 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: want to speak every at all times. But this as 48 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: soon as Dan asked me, I said, Dan, absolutely, anytime, 49 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: any place for preborn. And it's funny. I was originally 50 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: going to speak at the gathering. I think it was 51 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: like January eighteenth, right, and so it's a funny story. 52 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: Dan invited me to go speak at the deal. I 53 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: think it's in Naples and Jane eighteenth. He's like, hey, Charlie, 54 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: we'd love to have you lock you in. I'm like, look, 55 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: if we win the election, I'm gonna be probably pretty 56 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: busy on January eighteenth. Turns out I was right, and 57 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: so I'm glad I didn't commit and have to decommit. 58 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: But I said Dan, I'll make it up to preborn, 59 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: and so this is my making it up for preborn 60 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 1: after I was too busy to go to the one 61 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: back in Naples, but for a good reason. Though, so 62 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: so much to talk about here. I can't wait to 63 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: hear your questions. But I'm uniquely positioned to be able 64 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:33,279 Speaker 1: to tell you about the cultural, philosophical, and religious landscape 65 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: of where the pro life movement is what Preborn is 66 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: doing is so important to intercept people that think that 67 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: they want to terminate their child. But if we're honest 68 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: about ending abortion in America, of course there's a political dynamic, 69 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: but it's about getting the country to be pro life 70 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: in their own personal capacity, to make sure that our 71 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: churches are actually pro life, which I'm going to talk about. 72 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: And how is it that we have lost in America 73 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: this stance and this premise of life. And let's just 74 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: first acknowledge the importance of all of us being here tonight. 75 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: It should not be lost on anyone here that if 76 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: you don't believe in God, there is no chance you 77 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: would be spending your Saturday night paying money to go 78 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: save babies. The secularists don't do this. If you don't 79 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 1: believe in God, there's no way you would donate the 80 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: money that you're donating to go save a baby. You 81 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: would never meet, that you would never come in contact with, 82 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: because they don't believe their image bearers. You see, the 83 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 1: downfall of the belief of God in the West is 84 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: directly correlated. It's a one to one correlation with the 85 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: rise of pagan child sacrifice, child butchery, whatever phrase you 86 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: want to use. It's as we have become more secular, 87 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: it's harder and harder for us to make the pro 88 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: life case. And I saw this on great display. Did 89 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: some of you guys see my mostly peaceful debate at Cambridge? 90 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe not, Thank you if you haven't watched it. 91 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: It's fine. It was a total ambush and I loved 92 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: every minute of it. It was I don't think tonight 93 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: will be as hard as that. So I show up 94 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: to Cambridge and the way they present it, they're so deceitful. 95 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: They're so smug, and they think they're so smart, and 96 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 1: they're like, hey, we're just gonna have you at our 97 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: Cambridge Union, you know, a little question and answer. As 98 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: soon as I showed up, I'm like, oh, this is 99 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: a total ambush. I was like, five minutes beforehand, four 100 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: hundred students against me is one versus four hundred, and again, 101 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: these are not dummies, right, but they have no wisdom. 102 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: That's a very important distinction. They have brain power, they 103 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: could do mathematic formula, as they could recite facts, but 104 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: there's no wisdom. And wisdom is the understanding of things 105 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: that never change. And where does wisdom come from? The 106 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: fear of the Lord. And if you do not fear God, 107 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: you have no wisdom. So I go into Cambridge of 108 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: all these brainiacs who know a bunch of facts, but 109 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: they believe men can give birth. I go into Cambridge 110 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: and these people that think they're so smart, they say, 111 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: it's just a clump of cells terminated, eliminate it, get 112 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: rid of it. What's the big deal. And I'm looking 113 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: back at the footage and kind of recapping my time there. 114 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: And then they went to Oxford, same thing the next day. 115 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: In Oxford. They were a little bit more polite at 116 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: Oxford than in Cambridge, just a little bit. And I 117 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: recognize these are the top institutions of the West, where 118 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: Isaac Newton himself was educated, where they split the atom, 119 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: where even though they have all of the sophistication imaginable, 120 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: their IQs are higher than most people ever meet, but 121 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: they're lacking the most fundamental thing that is just destroying 122 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: the West from within a suicidal impulse, which is that 123 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: they don't believe there is a God, and they believe 124 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 1: that they are God, if there was to be a God, 125 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: and those two things are just gnawing at the basis 126 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: of the West. So I look at the landscape of 127 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: how are we going to save more babies? Because, make 128 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: no mistake your support of preborn Jesus cares and will 129 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: care when we meet him what you did to save babies. 130 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: Jesus cares what you are doing, whether or not to 131 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: save those lives that cannot defend themselves. And it's so 132 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: when you die deeper into the examination of the pro 133 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: abortion psychology. And again, I'm very uniquely positioned because not 134 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: only do I hear every argument imaginable. I challenge you 135 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: to find anyone who's done one hundred hours of debates 136 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: on these topics in one semester, so that is about 137 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: I've done about two hundred and fifty hours, so literally 138 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: days of these debates on these topics, and just the 139 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: last calendar three total semesters, right, and it almost always 140 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: comes down to this, well, but I matter more than 141 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: somebody else. What do you mean, who cares if it's 142 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: another human life? Because I can't even get them to 143 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: acknowledge the species of the life, that it's uniquely made, 144 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: it's not their DNA. But then all of a sudden 145 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: we head up to a moral stopping point, a critical one. 146 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: They say, well, but I'm in charge, and my sovereignty 147 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: matters more than somebody else, so of course I should 148 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: be able to eliminate it. And we have this idea 149 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: that bodily autonomy matters more than the will of God 150 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: because they don't acknowledge God. And when I dived, the 151 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: most shocking and depressing thing that I then hear from 152 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: them is the callous, cold nature of their opinion of 153 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: the discarding of human life. Now I have some very 154 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: very good heuristics to be able to get them to 155 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: think about this stuff. I have a new one that 156 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: I just can't wait to use in the fall. It 157 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: came to me when I was going on one of 158 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: my late night walks, which is like, Okay, let's find out. 159 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: Let's pretend I got to share it with you. Guys 160 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: are gonna love this, and you guys can use it 161 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: to all your pro abortion events if they're liberal. It 162 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: only works that they're liberal. Okay, So let's pretend I 163 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: have a genetics test and I could tell in utero 164 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: everything about my baby. The baby. I could tell the 165 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: baby is going to be gay. Am I allowed to 166 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: abort my baby if I find out it's gay? And 167 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 1: I don't want a gay baby. I just can't wait. 168 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear their answer, right, I just 169 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: can't wait. It's gonna be I just like thought, that 170 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 1: was one of the greatest ones I've ever come up with. Right, 171 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 1: It's like, no, oh, so we're pro life now for 172 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: the gay ladies, got it. That's wonderful. I can't wait 173 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: to use one this that way, that's semesterized, Like I, 174 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: why didn't I have that at Cambridge so I could 175 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: spend all night or the twelve minutes I had before 176 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: Q and A bashing on these colleges. But let's be honest, 177 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: there's something deeper that's happening here, and it's time for 178 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: some introspection in our own community as to why this 179 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: is happening. I was meeting with Dan. It doesn't Dan 180 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: do a great job, by the way, what an amazing 181 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: warrior and fighter. No, No, he's great, and he is 182 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: a true warrior with humility that is so hard to find, 183 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: always acknowledging God, always understanding that we are here for 184 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: His purposes and his wishes. And so I was saying 185 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: this is Dan earlier, which is Look, it's easy to say, well, 186 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: you know, President Trump is not as pro life as 187 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: I would like him. And look, I'm one hundred percent 188 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: pro life. I go to these college campuses and I'm 189 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: the guy that says no exceptions to abortion, and I 190 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: still come manned audiences of four thousand students because they're 191 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: so interested in a topic they've never heard. And yet 192 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 1: I am willing to give President Trump and Jadvance the 193 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 1: whole administration grace that other people will not. You know why, 194 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 1: because I am not going to hold a president or 195 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: a politician to a higher standard than my local pastor 196 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: when it comes to abortion. And why is it that 197 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: we've allowed our pastors to remain silent on this issue 198 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: and our churches to remain silent on this issue, But 199 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: we're very critical of our politicians, which matter more actually, 200 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: because the politicians are just reading a script that has 201 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: provided to them by voters. 202 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 5: We're honored to be partnering with Alan Jackson Ministries, and 203 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,719 Speaker 5: today I want to point you to their podcast. It's 204 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 5: called Culture in Christianity, The Alan Jackson Podcast. What makes 205 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 5: it unique is Pastor Allan's biblical perspective. He takes the 206 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 5: truth from the Bible and applies it to issues we're 207 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 5: facing today. Gender confusion, abortion, immigration, and doge Trump in 208 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 5: the White House issues in the church. He doesn't just 209 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 5: discuss the problems in every episode, he gives practical things 210 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 5: we can do to make a difference. His guests have 211 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 5: incredible expertise and powerful testimonies. They've been great friends and 212 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 5: now you can hear from Charlie and his own words. 213 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: Each episode will make you recognize the power of your 214 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: faith and how God can use your life to impact 215 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: our world today. The Culture in Christianity podcast is informative 216 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,599 Speaker 1: and encouraging. You could find it on YouTube, Spotify, or 217 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. Be sure to subscribe so 218 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: you don't miss any episodes. Alan Jackson Ministries is working 219 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: hard to bring biblical truth back into our culture. You 220 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: can find out more about Pastor Allen and the ministry 221 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: at Alan Jackson dot com. Forward slash Charlie, I want 222 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: to ask you a hypothetical. If President Donald Trump announced 223 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: tomorrow that he's taking away everybody's guns, what would happen? 224 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: Everyone would march on the I mean it would you 225 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: know what would not be? It would be pretty self evident. 226 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: And yet President Donald Trump reverses Roe versus Way. What happens. Basically, 227 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: no gratitude, silence American church. Vast majority churches didn't even 228 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: say thank you. Most churches. Actually, we did a study 229 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: a TPUSA our faith arm. They gave apologizing sermons. And 230 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: I'm sure you know about this. You know we're a 231 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: pro life church. But I know this might make you uncomfortable, 232 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: and you know, we just want to make sure that 233 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: everyone here is heard and healed and blah blah blah 234 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: blah blah. That should have been the greatest day of 235 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: rejoicing and fasting. We as a church should have been 236 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: fasting for a week saying thank you God for giving 237 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: us the reversal of Roe versus way. So it's tempting 238 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: to say, hey, President Trump is not as pro life 239 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: because I get it, and I get it. I can 240 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: sympathize with that. I think you also must give him 241 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: credit for all the amazing stuff he's doing. But fine, 242 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: got it. Respect, But are you also going to your 243 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: local pastor or the big megachurch and calling out that 244 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: heretic for not being pro life or are you only 245 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: disagreeable from afar but you're not disagreeable up close and personal. 246 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: You know, the vast majority of pastors in this country 247 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: will ever ever speak out about the crisis of abortion ever, 248 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: And we wonder why there is this kind of moral 249 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: and cultural decay and downfall, because the only way we 250 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: win the fight for life, the only way we win, 251 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: is if the American church rises up. It's not going 252 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: to be reason, it's not going to be secularists. Instead, 253 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: it's going to be the very promise of the Bible. 254 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: Because it comes down to the very fundamental question. When 255 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: I go on the college campus and the girl kind 256 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: of shrugs her shoulders and she says, well, I don't 257 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: really care, you know, if that, you know, baby or whatever. 258 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: Eventually I can get them to say the word baby, 259 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: which you knows, you know, they do everything they can 260 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: not to use the word baby. Right. Dehumanizing language is 261 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: the staple of a pro abortion individual. It's a fetus, 262 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: it's a clump of cells, it's a parasite, it's an invader. 263 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: As soon as they use humanizing language, all of a sudden, 264 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: that must invite then human morality. But of course it 265 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 1: is a human being. However, even if I can get 266 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: them to acknowledge it, they don't believe that human beings 267 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,719 Speaker 1: an image bearer. They think it's an accident. They think 268 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: it's an accident of millions of years. Of the divide 269 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: in the West is those of us that believe that 270 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: our existence is a miracle, that you are designed with intentionality, 271 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: with purpose, with a soul, and we believe everything that 272 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: we do matters up against a whole other cohort in 273 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: this country. And it says, oh, it's just a roll 274 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: of the dice, it's an inconvenience. Do you know how 275 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: often I hear the argument when I speak to these 276 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: students and they say, well, the baby will be better 277 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: off aboarded because what we bore into a poor family. 278 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: We have not moved past eugenics. This is mass Malthusian 279 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: population control that we like to think as if our 280 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: society is so advanced and so elevated and so educated, 281 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: but be very careful at the tyranny of hyper educated, 282 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: non religious elites. The tyranny of hyper educated, non religious 283 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: elites is a cancer to Western society. And so we're 284 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: in the middle of a struggle for what is called 285 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: Western civilization. But do you know a better term of 286 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: what Western civilization really is That nobody wants to say 287 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: Christendom Christendom. No one wants to call it out loud 288 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: because they think it's too Christian national. It's Christendom. This 289 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: Nations was started as a Christian project. When the Pilgrims 290 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: came here from the Mayflower, they specifically said they were 291 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: going to come here to spread the Gospel and to 292 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: turn this continent into a Christian con Honestly, they did 293 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: a phenomenal job. This is the best place for Christianity 294 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: on the planet and has been. It has been the 295 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: number one funder of the Gospel around the world. It 296 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: has been the place of Billy Graham and the biggest 297 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: churches and the biggest messages. But in the last twenty 298 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: years we have decided to indulge thirty years in a 299 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: very tempting yet failed model, and finally we're starting to 300 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: reckon with the problem. The model is very simple. It's that, hey, 301 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: we want to get the biggest church possible, we want 302 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: to get the biggest building possible, and we want to 303 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: get people in and we can't offend them. So we're 304 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: not going to talk about any of the parts of 305 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: the Bible that might be hard or difficult. We're just 306 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: going to do John three to sixteen every single week. 307 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: But think about it, if you don't present Jesus Christ 308 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: as a savior, so they'll use the word savior. But 309 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: if you don't talk about sin, why do you need 310 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: a savior. If you don't talk about sin, what are 311 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: you getting saved from? If you're not talking about that, 312 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: you're being suffocated by your own original sin. Then why 313 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: would you need to be redeemed? Because you're awesome the 314 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: way you are. He gets you. He's amazing. You're amazing 315 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: Jesus when you're watching poor and He's like, yeah, keep 316 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: doing it. He gets you. He affirms your sin. We 317 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: went from an affirm mate which to an affirmational model, 318 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: when instead we need a hot gospel that says, almost 319 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: every hour of the day, you are sinn you have 320 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: original sin, and only by the grace of God that 321 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: you did not earn, that you do not deserve, is 322 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: this free gift of salvation that can redeem you. And 323 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: only through there you get the promise of heaven via 324 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. That is the hot gospel. But it requires 325 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: confronting a culture and not conforming via this social gospel 326 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,719 Speaker 1: that we have seen over the last thirty years. You 327 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: want to know why the church has become less pro 328 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 1: life because it doesn't preach the Gospel like it used to. 329 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 1: It doesn't preach the entirety of the Word of God. 330 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: Some pastors I meet can't even spell Leviticus, let alone 331 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: do they teach out of it. The Founding Fathers not 332 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: only do they like Leviticus, they put Leviticus on the 333 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: Liberty Bill, proclaim liberty throughout the land of which you 334 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: are in. It's the entirety of the Word of God 335 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: that is necessary for us to be able to have 336 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: a healthy and robust church. And the problem is the 337 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 1: modern church. They say, but we want more converts, we 338 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: want more converts, we want more converts. And I go 339 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: back to the scripture to say, well, Jesus said to 340 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: create disciples of all nations. Conversion is the first step 341 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 1: towards discipleship. But if you are just doing popcorn and 342 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: ice cream spiritually every single Sunday, people are going to 343 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: leave because they want to go deeper. They don't just 344 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: want to have the superficial. They want to go deep 345 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 1: into the details of the promises of what it means 346 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: to be a Christian and the struggles and then finally 347 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 1: the other struggle. The other issue that we have is worldview. 348 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: I finally had this breakthrough like two years ago, which 349 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: is we as Christians have been led to believe there's 350 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 1: something called a neutral public square and number two, that 351 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 1: people can look at things through just fairly and equally 352 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: in a kind of unbiased way. Every single person you meet, 353 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: every child, every pastor, a politician, every school board member, 354 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 1: every CEO looks the way through the world through a 355 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: predetermined prism or a worldview. The question is whose do 356 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: you want to win? And we as Christians have kind 357 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: of been like, oh, we don't care come to my church, 358 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: but I'm not going to go equip you a biblical 359 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: worldview because I don't want to offend you, and said, 360 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: what a pastor should be doing is every day installing 361 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: a biblical worldview. When you read the news and you 362 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: listen to the radio, and you watch the TV, you 363 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: distill everything and you process it through a biblical worldview. 364 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: Does that glorify God? Or does that make us further 365 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: away from God? Is that in God's commands? Is that 366 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: in God's law or not? And this is the tragedy 367 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: of it, is that a pastor thinks that is being political. 368 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: It's being biblical, not political. It is not political to 369 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: go through the entirety of the scriptures. And what I 370 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: find is that so often students, professors, whoever, I'll debate anybody, 371 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: they come up to the microphone and they'll say, well, 372 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 1: I just want everyone to live and let live. I 373 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 1: want everyone to kind of live as if they want 374 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: to live. I say, by what moral standard do you 375 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: think that's right? They say, well, it's just the kind 376 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: of way I feel. But you're appealing to something when 377 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: you say that, why is that better than the Quran? 378 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,239 Speaker 1: Why is that better than the Bible? And we as 379 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: Christians have kind of retreated into our own corner, being like, well, 380 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't want to promote the 381 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: Bible too heavily because it might be, you know, it 382 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: might be off putting. And if we want to win 383 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: people for Jesus, we can't. We can't earn people off. 384 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: And what we're seeing is the opposite, the churches that 385 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: are weak and woke and that are afraid to talk 386 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 1: about the entirety of scripture scriptures, they're turning their churches 387 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 1: over to hotel developers, pastors that actually go into the 388 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: toughest issues of the day, people are flocking to them 389 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: by the thousands, by the thousands. Right now. Maybe many 390 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: of you people maybe know young men right now are 391 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: gravitating to the Catholic Church in record numbers. By the way, 392 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: better the Catholic Church than to mosques? Okay? And serious? 393 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: Why And by the way, as an Evangelical and as 394 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 1: a Protestant, I think this is very interesting. And most 395 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: Protestants have no idea why this is happening. They say, 396 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: why is it that I'm losing my young men to 397 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 1: Catholic churches? And I look down and I say, well, 398 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: the skinny jeans are a good place to start. They 399 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: want a pastor where they don't think they can beat 400 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: you up. Number two, what's with all the smoke screen 401 00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: and the dancing and the screens. Is this a rock 402 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: concert or is this church? They don't want to just 403 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 1: go to a home depot with a bunch of you know, 404 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: Ted talks. They want to go somewhere holy. They want 405 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: to go to somewhere that doesn't change. They want to 406 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: go somewhere that tells them the truth, that is uncompromising 407 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 1: in a culture that's not going to be like a 408 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: Circosole Act every single Sunday. You can say whatever you 409 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: want about the Catholic Church, and I have huge disagreements 410 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: with them, fundamental theological disagreements, but they've lasted a long time. 411 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: And when you go into a Catholic church, they're not 412 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 1: dancing around like is it some Vegas act. And they're 413 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: certainly for a young man who says, everything in my 414 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: life is changing, everything, my friends are changing their gender, 415 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: the whole world is just falling apart. But when I 416 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: enter into a Catholic church, at least there's some constancy, 417 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: and there is some there is some order, and we 418 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: as Protestants and Evangelicals could learn a lot from that trend. 419 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 5: Right now, we're honored to be partnering with Alan Jackson Ministries, 420 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 5: and today I want to point you to their podcast. 421 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 5: It's called Cure in Christianity, the Alan Jackson Podcast. What 422 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 5: makes it unique is Pastor Allan's biblical perspective. He takes 423 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 5: the truth from the Bible and applies it to issues 424 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 5: we're facing today, gender confusion, abortion, immigration, Doge Trump, and 425 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 5: the White House issues in the church. He doesn't just 426 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 5: discuss the problems in every episode, he gives practical things 427 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 5: we can do to make a difference. His guests have 428 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 5: incredible expertise and powerful testimonies. They've been great friends and 429 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 5: now you can hear from Charlie and. 430 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: His own words. Each episode will make you recognize the 431 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 1: power of your faith and how God can use your 432 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: life to impact our world today. The Culture in Christianity 433 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: podcast is informative and encouraging. You could find it on YouTube, Spotify, 434 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. Be sure to subscribe 435 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: so you don't miss any episodes. Alan Jackson Ministries is 436 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: working hard to bring biblical truth back into our culture. 437 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: You can find out more about Pastor Allen and the 438 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 1: ministry at Alan Jackson dot com. Forward slash Charlie and 439 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 1: do you know what else the Catholic Church's like. Yep, 440 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: abortion is murdered, it's dogma. We don't compromise from that. 441 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 1: Marriage with no man and woman. We don't compromise from that. 442 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: If you don't like it, then get out. And yet 443 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: they're the ones that are actually experiencing the growth curve 444 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 1: because you know why young people right now want crisply 445 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: delivered truths, not watered down half truths, because they're afraid 446 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: that one person in the back of the room might 447 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: send an angry email. Every pastor should go up on 448 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: a pulpit and say, Lord, help me, help me, Please 449 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: preach this church down to a manageable size. That should 450 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: be your goal. And if it grows, then it's not you, 451 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: it's him. Because the intent should be I should be 452 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: saying things that are so offensive to the world, that 453 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 1: the demons scatter and that the culture wants nothing to 454 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: do with it. But running out of time, I could 455 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: talk endlessly. Nothing is more important than the fight for life. 456 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 1: But understand that it is Christians and Christians only that 457 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: will win this battle. Jesus must be the center of 458 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: it all. It's not secularists, it's not the Buddhists, it's 459 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 1: not the Hindus. And I do want to leave you 460 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: with a very hopeful thing, and then we'll do some questions. 461 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,639 Speaker 1: The pro life movement in Europe does not exist. It 462 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: literally does not exist. We are like the last pro 463 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: life cohort on the planet that actually talks about these 464 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: things and that is trying to get people to save there. 465 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: But the rest of the world, the Muslim world is 466 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: its own thing just but the rest of the basically 467 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: developed world has no issue with just eliminating babies. We're 468 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: like the last gasp that has the kind of moral courage. 469 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: And I get in a lot of trouble when I 470 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: say this, but I believe that there are a lot 471 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: of parallels towards the abolition of slavery and the abolition 472 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,360 Speaker 1: of abortion. People say, how dare you compare the two? 473 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, they're both evil and one resulted in murder. 474 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 1: One is doesn't even allow you to live. And I 475 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: believe if we look at the long March got us 476 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: towards the abolitionist slavery, we can learn a lot from Wilberforce. 477 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 1: We can learn a lot from Frederick Douglas, which is 478 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: we do not compromise, We stay prayerful. We're always constantly 479 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: trying to impact culture and make politics more in the 480 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 1: form what God and Jesus would want. And that's why 481 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: I love what Preborn is doing every single day, and 482 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: I encourage you guys to continue to support it generously. 483 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 6: Let's do some questions, right, Dan, Amen, Let's get the 484 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 6: mics throughout the room, and if you have a question 485 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 6: for Charlie, just to raise your hand, little super can 486 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 6: stump and we got to be better than a bunch 487 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 6: of college kids, right. 488 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 7: Who first, the Catholics are the Protestants? 489 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: Well, the Catholics for sure, me Protestants can go. Do 490 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: you want a mic? I'm not so are we debating 491 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 1: or we? Yeah? Okay, No, I mean no, Catholics predated 492 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: Protestantism for sure. 493 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 7: And don't you think that Protestants want a little bit 494 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 7: more liberal than the Catholics? 495 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: Catholic? Oh yeah, okay, r Do I think that Protestants 496 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: were more liberal than Catholics? No, not necessarily they wanted 497 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: to get divorced. Okay, yeah, so it depends how you mean. 498 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: I'm sorry what he. 499 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 7: Henry the Eighth was the one that started. 500 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: Protestant No, that's not correct, that's not true. Martin Luther 501 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 1: actually started Protestantism. So Martin Luther was the that's so 502 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 1: do you know do you know the ninety five THECES? 503 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 4: I know? 504 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, So you're talking about the specifically England. You're right, 505 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: So Henry the Eighth was the English schism away towards 506 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: the Church of England. But Martin Luther started Protestantism with 507 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: the ninety five THECES. Do you know what the selling 508 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: of indulgences is no because of Catholic right, So the 509 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:45,120 Speaker 1: Catholic first and right, So let's not be too combative here, right. 510 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: So well it's okay. So the selling of indulgences was 511 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: the Catholic Church selling salvation for money, right. So Martin 512 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: Luther found that to be objectionable. Remember Martin Luther was 513 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 1: a Catholic priest. Martin Luther said, we should not be 514 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 1: selling people's souls for money. So he nailed the ninety 515 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: five feces to the door and started the Protestant Reformation, 516 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: of which led towards Protestant Christianity as we know it. 517 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 7: And Jay Sarah, who is a big, huge Catholic, came 518 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 7: down to the West and if you see, you know, 519 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 7: Santa Barbara all the way down, you see missions, they're 520 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 7: the ones. 521 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: Who again I acknowledge it. 522 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 4: Right. 523 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 1: So do you do you think Mary was do you 524 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: think do you think Mary was sinless? 525 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 7: Do I think Mary was sinless? 526 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 4: I mean that's what I was taught. 527 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: Do you think that we're I don't know. Do you 528 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: think Mary ascended into heaven? 529 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 4: Yes? 530 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: Okay, where's your evidence for that? Where's the evidence going to? 531 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 4: There's a God. 532 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: Around us the Bible, I mean, right, So there's no 533 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: scriptural evidence for Mary being sinless. In fact, says the 534 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: opposite in Romans three, that all falls short of the 535 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: glory of God, and only Christ, Jesus is able to 536 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: redeem us. So according to dogma the Catholic Church, they 537 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: believe Marius less. They believe Mary assumed into heaven like 538 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: Elijah Enoch and Elijah Enoch and Jesus. So I just 539 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 1: ask you, like, why do you believe that. I just 540 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: think that. 541 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,360 Speaker 7: Another Mary, I pray to her and that things have 542 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 7: happened from me. 543 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. So again, so it also says in the scriptures 544 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: and one Timothy, right, So in the scriptures it's fine. 545 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: In the scriptures said only Jesus Christ is our mediary 546 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: to God. Right, So you don't need a mediary of Mary. 547 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: You don't need the mediary of you know, Saint Paul. 548 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 1: So why do you pray to someone that is in Jesus. 549 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 7: I believe in the Catholic Church. 550 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 1: It was a first bingo. So I believe in scripture 551 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: and you believe in an institution, and we just that's 552 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: our difference. That's good. Okay, nice question, thank you, next question, 553 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: but no, just to recap. Though, the Catholic Church teaches 554 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: Mary was sinless like Jesus and also that she assumed 555 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: into Heaven, both of which are no. That's correct. Sinless 556 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: called the Immaculate Conception, which was done eighteen fifty four, 557 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: I think by Pope Leo the twelfth. It was gone 558 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: an ex cathedral dogma into the Catholic Church. Catholics teach 559 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: that Mary was sinless like Christ, which I find of 560 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: being outrageous teaching for anyone that has read the scriptures. Yes, 561 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: so you. 562 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 8: Say, you know you always stay come in front of 563 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 8: the line if you disagree. I was waiting for the line. 564 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: So I disagree with. 565 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 8: You starting to say no, because I just moved to 566 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 8: Florida from Canada and French. Canada is extremely atheist, extremely 567 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 8: pro abortion. I've had tons of patients and friends almost 568 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 8: proud of their abortion. You went to England, you say 569 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 8: Europe is gone? What about Canada? Why are you coming 570 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 8: to the University of to make me well? Because I 571 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 8: was willing to do it for you. But you're super talented, 572 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 8: and just like my NHL career never happened. 573 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 1: I don't think that I love either. 574 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 8: So when are you coming to Canada. 575 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: I'm I don't know if I'm allowed in Canada, but 576 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: here you kick me out. So when I went to England, 577 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: I tried my best to get arrested and I failed. 578 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: So look, I'm very very despite my visit to UK 579 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: and Cambridge and Oxford. I'm very America focused to what 580 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: I'm doing. But look, Canada has some major problems. You know, 581 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: the biggest problem. This is actually a very interesting point. 582 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: First of all, Canada has a non religious problem because 583 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: they're not They're nowhere near as religious as America. Canada 584 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: is only the population of California. Understand it's a major 585 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: land mass with only the population of California. In about 586 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: twenty five years ago, California Canadian conservatives said that the 587 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: abortion issue is too controversial and we want to just 588 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: be indecipherable from the liberals on abortion. That's a lot 589 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,479 Speaker 1: of people in the Republican Party are going to try 590 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: to do the same thing everybody. And what happened to 591 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: California conservatives It made them weak. I'm Canadian. Sorry, Canadian conservatives, 592 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: it made them weaker. In the process, we do not 593 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: compromise on the most important issue, which is the issue 594 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: of life. Period, end up story, and I mean, look, 595 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: you look at what's happened this last election. It's just 596 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: a tragedy. And again I believe that if you fail 597 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: to remain a godly nation, then you will not be 598 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: a free nation. And Canada is a perfect example of that. 599 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: Next question, yes, sure, I. 600 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 4: Think for the comments on American pastors that then you 601 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 4: said it's big. You're right, it's been about thirty years. 602 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 4: My question is when I have debates with family members 603 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 4: who maybe aren't Christians, and I proclaim my pro life views, 604 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 4: what do you feel is the clearest way to explain 605 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 4: specifically an a topic pregnancy kind of situation. 606 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: Right, So a topic pregnancy would be the breaking of 607 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: the uterine wall? Is that right? Dan Filopian stoops, Yeah, 608 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: I will lead. Honestly, that question should go to Dan. 609 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: He get answered a lot better than I would, or 610 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: that I could. I believe Number one that far too 611 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: many times, especially post twenty two weeks, especially post twenty 612 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: two weeks, far too many women are not given the 613 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: option of a cesarean section, and they're only given the 614 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: option of an abortion, where the C section very well 615 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: could be a medical procedure that could save potentially the baby, 616 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: both the baby and the mother's life. More specifically, though, 617 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: the issue that I find where a lot of the 618 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: kind of fear bongerers on this issue push forward is 619 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: they think abortion is a harmless, victimless procedure, and so 620 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: that that is one of the more important elements here. 621 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: If there is a dead baby within the womb, the 622 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: extraction of a dead baby is not an abortion. That is, 623 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: that is a very important thing to mention and so 624 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: and also I get this on campus, they say, well, 625 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: isn't a removal of assist an abortion? No, that's an ablation. 626 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: I believe it's called an ablation. It's like the misinformation 627 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: around it persists. But I'll let Dan answer that probably more, 628 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: you know, in more depth than I could. 629 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, So, an ept toopic pregnancy is a baby that 630 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 2: would never survive and it's life threatening to the mother. 631 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 2: So it's a it's got to be removed to the 632 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 2: mother will die, frankly, not an abortion. 633 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: Correct. 634 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 4: Any dreams or hopes for turning point in Europe or other. 635 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: Countries, not really. I mean we're very again, we're very 636 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: very America focused right now. Again, I mean, I'll be 637 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: visiting probably Europe once a year, it's so for those 638 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: of Europe recently, it's so sad. I have a lot 639 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: of thoughts on this, but the Muslim conquest of Europe 640 00:33:55,800 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: is shocking, it is alarming. The rise of Mohammed in 641 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: the West is really is really breathtaking, and so we 642 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 1: have to save this country. And honestly, once you save America, 643 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: it helps save the world, because a strong America is 644 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,399 Speaker 1: a strong world. Yep. 645 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 9: As I introduced to myself to you earlier, I am 646 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 9: a millennial, for better or for worse, born in California 647 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 9: and raised in the Bay Area. So I'll admit that 648 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,280 Speaker 9: I cried when Chunk one in twenty sixteen. But thanks 649 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 9: to Jesus, my god fearing husband and you, partially, I 650 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 9: am now a Christian conservative. 651 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: Obviously I'm europe tonight. 652 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 9: All said, a majority of my friends are still very 653 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 9: liberal talking, and some of my friends don't talk to 654 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 9: me anymore because of my views. My question for you is, 655 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 9: how do I poach this conversation about this specific topic 656 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 9: in the most loving and productive way possible to where 657 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 9: it's not where you know they're fashally me for being 658 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 9: some type of Christian nationalist. 659 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: It's a great question. So you have to before you 660 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: even ever talk about politics. You have to establish with 661 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: your friends a very simple question, is it possible that 662 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 1: I might have different political views and you'll still view 663 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,879 Speaker 1: me the same? And if the answer is no, then 664 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: you have to stop being I mean so that there 665 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: is no friendship. Actually it's just superficial. Aristotle talked about 666 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: the different levels of friendship, and real friends are people 667 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,240 Speaker 1: that have a transcendent third involved, meaning they're both looking 668 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: at something above them that they can both understand and appreciate. 669 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean they have to agree with it, but 670 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 1: they're both looking at that same thing. The nastiness of 671 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: the left is one of the least reported cultural stories. 672 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: That's happening of friendships and families and friends and sons 673 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: and daughters, people that no longer talk to each other 674 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,720 Speaker 1: because of political differences. We as Christians should not seek 675 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: to do that. We should be the peacemakers. We should 676 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: try to find common ground and try to remedy that. 677 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 1: But boy, I tell you I've lost family members, neighbors 678 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: in just the most venomous ways imaginable, because unfortunately they 679 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 1: will group in political identity with moral worth. They'll they'll 680 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: think you're a bad person because they don't share their views. 681 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: And so then just keep on asking questions and then 682 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 1: be live the testimony through your actions. Be someone that 683 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,439 Speaker 1: they want to be with, they want to be friends with. 684 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: And the best thing that has ever happened to us 685 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 1: as conservatives is that the left has become so unenjoyable 686 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: to be around. And now I mean that is that 687 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 1: no one wants to spend times like they're claim they're 688 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: complaining about climate change or you know, abortion, like they're 689 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: they're always complaining. It's like the Democrat Party is basically 690 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 1: weaponized infant complaining for two hours straight at dinner, and 691 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: it's eventually it's just not fun. And so be somebody 692 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 1: that people want to spend time with and be and 693 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: be a testimony to the Lord in the in the proms. 694 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 10: Yes, you mentioned then over the last thirty years, evangelicalism 695 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 10: has watered down the Gospel for the sake of gaining membership. 696 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,800 Speaker 10: But then you also gave hope that that's perhaps changing 697 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 10: from your platform and banners point, what hopeful changes do 698 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 10: you see on the horizon and what do you see 699 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:17,479 Speaker 10: as coming next. 700 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 1: I think that there is a new generation of young 701 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 1: pastors that are preaching to the Bible correctly, and honestly, 702 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: it's been very disappointing to watch. COVID was a very 703 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 1: revealing moment for the American church, and we saw pastors 704 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 1: that would shut down their entire church unnecessarily for a 705 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 1: year and a half, two years on end, all the 706 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 1: while they were promoting racial justice and all that complete nonsense. 707 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: And so I think that the biggest hopeful thing that 708 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,399 Speaker 1: I have is that the rank and file and those 709 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: of you that attend churches are demanding more out of 710 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 1: your pastor, and that you're no longer just going to 711 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 1: have your pastor sit down and roll over and do 712 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,839 Speaker 1: the same sort of well, you know, we're not going 713 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 1: to get into the controversial issues here. No, we want 714 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 1: the entire Bible to be taught in this church. And then, finally, 715 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: in a digital social media era, the best ideas are 716 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: going to win is the kind of happy talk pastors. 717 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: If your pastor is basically indistinguishable from a self help seminar, 718 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,280 Speaker 1: then why would somebody come to you on Sunday morning. 719 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: They have to believe that there is a spiritual component 720 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 1: or a spiritual element to it. And so I am 721 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 1: hopeful that this kind of teaching is the marketplace is 722 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 1: rewarding that. And look no further, everybody, before there was 723 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 1: weak evangelical churches. What was there before that weak mainline 724 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:48,240 Speaker 1: Protestant churches, Episcopalian, Lutheran, certain forms of Presbyterianism. They actually 725 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 1: saw the decline in attendance before a lot of mainline 726 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,480 Speaker 1: evangelical What is the through line? When you start to 727 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 1: compromise on the truth, you actually don't grow. People don't 728 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 1: want to reward you with their ties and their offerings 729 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,879 Speaker 1: or their attendants or their time when you water down 730 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 1: the truth. Got it? Thank we got it? Kever, Thank 731 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 1: you so much. Okay, jar say one more thing really quick, 732 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 1: please everybody. I'm a donor to preborn. I'm proud to 733 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 1: do it. I'm thankful to do it. I come here 734 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 1: I could be with my family. I'm doing it because 735 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,720 Speaker 1: anytime Dan asks me to pitch in with my time 736 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 1: or my voice, it is so important that we have 737 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 1: a counter two planned parenthood. By the way, if you 738 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,399 Speaker 1: want to stay something in prayer, say something in prayer. 739 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: The next couple of days and the next week, please 740 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,720 Speaker 1: pray for intercession that the defunding a Planned Parented stays 741 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: in the big beautiful bill. Please bring that to the Lord. Okay, 742 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:43,360 Speaker 1: keep that because that would be a major, major victory. 743 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 1: And President Trump has greenlit it and has allowed it, 744 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 1: and we are seeing it proceeding. But we are up 745 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 1: against a culture of death. John ten Ten Jesus says, 746 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 1: the enemy has come, the lies child, the story. But 747 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 1: I have come to give life and life more abundantly. 748 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 1: We are culture of life. We need to celebrate it, 749 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 1: we need to fight for it. What Preborn is doing 750 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,800 Speaker 1: every single day, in my opinion, is the most effective, 751 00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 1: precise and measurable organization that is countering the butchery and 752 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 1: the slaughter that Planned parentid is rought. So dig deep, 753 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,319 Speaker 1: donate what you can. God bless you guys, and thank 754 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: you for all the prayers and support it. Thank you 755 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 8: For more on many of these stories and news you 756 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 8: can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com