1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: Life Audio. You're listening to Everyday Prayers with Million Praying Moms, 2 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: where we pray God's word for our families in the 3 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: areas we need it most. I'm your host, Nicolette Beell. 4 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: We believe that prayer isn't our last resort, that it's 5 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: our first and best response to parenting, a partnership for 6 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 1: the hearts of our children that God invites us into. Today, 7 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: we are continuing our when mothering is hard and no 8 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: one sees book club with author Shaleene Roberts in our 9 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: Friday interview series. Schleeene, welcome back to the show. 10 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: Thank you. I'm so glad to be here. 11 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: We are in week six of our book club, and 12 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: I do want to say if you have not been 13 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: following long or have not been listening, please keep listening 14 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: to the episode today, go back and get catch the 15 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: other ones later, but you won't be behind. You'll be 16 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: able to find something to apply to your motherhood journey 17 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: today in our conversation, because chapters eleven and twelve are 18 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: really really practical advice for us as moms as we 19 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: are hoping to really bring that Kingdom mindset into our 20 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: motherhood and leaning on God to help us do that. 21 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: So she Lene, let's just jump right in chapter eleven 22 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: you titled Connected to the Vine, and we're kind of 23 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 1: going through these practices. Last week we talked about practice 24 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 1: of prayer. This week we're talking about immerse the practice 25 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 1: number two you entitled immerse. Tell us about it. 26 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, So immerse is just another word essentially for abiding. 27 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 3: So we are called to abide in Christ and that 28 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 3: means literally living day to day, every moment of every 29 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 3: day with Him. And so I just call it immerse 30 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 3: because we want to immerse ourselves into the Word of 31 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 3: God and in the Kingdom of God, and that gives us, 32 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 3: that sustains us, and gives us life. And so that's 33 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 3: where the word immerse came from. And so what we're 34 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 3: talking about in this chapter is something I think that 35 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 3: can feel kind of hard for busy moms, and it's 36 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 3: just the study of God's word and just staying connected 37 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 3: to the vine. And I know when this is something 38 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 3: this is actually a convicting chapter for me because I 39 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 3: go through seasons, you know where, and I think that's 40 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 3: probably natural for most of us as we go through 41 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 3: seasons where some seasons we feel really connected to the 42 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 3: vine and then other seasons we feel disconnected, and I 43 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 3: can trace that feeling of connection and disconnection directly back to. 44 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 2: How much time I'm spending in the Word. 45 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,959 Speaker 3: So God's Word is effectual, it is life giving. It 46 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 3: is I mean, this is it's not it's not just 47 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 3: a dead book of words. It is God's Word, and 48 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 3: it gives life, and it gives life to you, and 49 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 3: it gives life to me. It's very personal, and so 50 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 3: I can trace any sense of connection and disconnection back 51 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 3: to how well I'm immersing myself in God's Word. And 52 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 3: so that's what we're talking about specifically in this chapter, 53 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 3: and I'm giving you little hints for how you can 54 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 3: incorporate immersing yourself into the Word into your day, because 55 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 3: I know it's really hard. When my kids were little, 56 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 3: I felt like I do not have time. You know, 57 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 3: there was a season where I could do bath more 58 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 3: and Priscilla s higher studies, which are amazing. 59 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 2: They're wonderful, but they take a lot of time. 60 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 3: And I remember when my children were little, trying to 61 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 3: find the time to do that was very hard. And 62 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 3: so in this chapter, we're talking about practical tips that 63 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 3: you can do to immerse yourself in God's Word every day. 64 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think we can kind of fall in 65 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: a couple of categories. Right. For some people, you may 66 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: not have a devotional habit at all. You've maybe never 67 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: read God's Word on your own. You've maybe gone to 68 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: church and heard the word, or listened to podcasts and 69 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: things like that where people are talking about God's Word, 70 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: but you've never really read it for yourself. Or maybe 71 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: you've read devotional books but not really the Bible. I 72 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: have nothing against devotional books. I'm literally one coming out 73 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: in a couple of months. They're great tools for us 74 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: to read God's Word. But some of us aren't comfortable 75 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: with just reading the Bible. Others of us have maybe 76 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: had that practice that you're describing of a Bethmore study 77 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: where you spend an hour every day delving deeply into 78 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: three verses of scripture that talk about this and blah 79 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: blah blah, or there's all kinds of studies out there, 80 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: and so I think you can find yourselves in one 81 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: or two places, and then you can find it hard 82 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: to connect when it doesn't look a certain way. And 83 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: so I think in my own life, in the season 84 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: of littles, I have littles right now. And so it's 85 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: this letting go of what I think my time with 86 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: God is supposed to look like and just showing up 87 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: with what I've got and asking me. 88 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 2: To make much of it. 89 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: Now, there's a difference if I choose. I'll give you 90 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: an example. Three days ago, I chose to pick up 91 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: my phone and I started scrolling on social media before 92 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,119 Speaker 1: I read my Bible. I can tell you by noon, 93 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: I was feeling anxious off, like all the things, and 94 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: I stopped and went, oh my gosh, I did that 95 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: thing before I did this. And then so like today, 96 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: for instance, I did not do that. I like instead 97 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: started my day in God's Word, in what it looks 98 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: like in this season with having a six month old 99 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: and a four year old, so it doesn't look the 100 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: same as it did before I had kids, or when 101 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: I just had one kid. But man, the difference I 102 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: feel in my spirit it's huge. Even spending just fifteen 103 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: minutes in the word, ten minutes in the Word, it 104 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: is that life giving. And it's not a check off 105 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: the list. It's this, this, the presence of God right 106 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: work in our lives. 107 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 3: Yes, it's an invitation. He promises that his word never 108 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 3: will never come back void. And we have to understand 109 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 3: that means never, means never. So if you are spending 110 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 3: even if you are only spending three minutes in the Word, 111 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 3: that word is going to be effectual in your life somehow. 112 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 3: So no matter how much time you can get in, 113 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 3: I would love for every woman to spend at least 114 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 3: thirty minutes in the Word every day because it is 115 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 3: that necessary. 116 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 2: And it is that life giving. 117 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 3: It is the anchor for our life and for our souls, 118 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 3: and it is through the Word of God we are 119 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 3: inviting the Holy Spirit to fill us and then essentially 120 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 3: to fill our families and our homes. 121 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 2: It is that imperative. 122 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,679 Speaker 3: But if you can't do that again, his word never, 123 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 3: it never comes back void. So if you spend three minutes, 124 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 3: if you spend five minutes just reading the Psalm, that 125 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 3: is going to bear fruit in your life. And if 126 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 3: you spend five minutes reading a psalm, heart your heart 127 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 3: is going to long for more and more of God's 128 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 3: Word and eventually it's going to lead you to long 129 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 3: to spending more time in God's Word. So yes, I 130 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 3: would just encourage moms. If you haven't if you do 131 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 3: not have a practice of Bible study. And it's overwhelming 132 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 3: to you. It's not a checkbox that we have to do. 133 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 3: God does not require us to read his word. 134 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 2: He invites us into it. 135 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 3: He has given us this as a gift, not as 136 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 3: a good burden. And so I just encourage you to 137 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 3: start small, you know, and don't there's no there's no 138 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 3: shame in this. But start small and know that God 139 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 3: is There's no shame if you can't keep a schedule, 140 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 3: but know that God is inviting you into relationship with 141 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 3: Him through the word that he has given. 142 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 2: Us as a gift. 143 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: And in the title of the chapter, in what you 144 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: discuss in the chapter about abiding to in the vine, 145 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: Jesus says, I'm the vine, you are the languages, and 146 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: my father is the vine dresser, right, And so he 147 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: gives us this beautiful image of how we're connected with 148 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: Him and the Father. And then he kind of outlines 149 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: what happens when we abide, we start bearing fruit in 150 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: our lives. He says, if you abide in Me, then 151 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: you will bear much fruit, and if you don't abide 152 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: in Me, you will not bear fruit. It's not like 153 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: you know, you might have like one thing here and 154 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: not over here, Like it's like either you're abiding or 155 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: you're not. And so I love this in my own life. 156 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: I feel like I can have like almost like a 157 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: litmus test for whether I'm abiding or not based on 158 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: my fruit. 159 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: Right, Like at the example. 160 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: I gave by about noon a couple of days ago, 161 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: I was feeling a little sour, like my fruit had 162 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: gone a little rotten. 163 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 2: And it absolutely as right. 164 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: I got this big bag of lemons from Costco the 165 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: other day and the next day they were covered in mold. 166 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, that shouldn't even happen, but it does, right, 167 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: And that's the thing about fruit. It's fresh, it's new, 168 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: and so we are to check our fruit and make 169 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: sure that we're abiding in the vine. And when we're not, 170 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: the beautiful thing about it is there's no shame in that. 171 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: We just connect back to the vine. We returned back 172 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: the source, and we recognize the source of where our 173 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: help is coming from. Yeah. 174 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 3: I share a story in the book about how so 175 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 3: I have a garden actually out I'm looking at it 176 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 3: right now. And when we moved to our current house, 177 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 3: that was like the number one thing that I went it. 178 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 3: So I wented a little garden. I wouldn't be able 179 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 3: to dig my hands into the soil. So got a garden. 180 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 3: My husband built me a couple of raised beds, and 181 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 3: I planted these plants and I tended them. And then 182 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 3: life just got busy, you know. We had, we have 183 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 3: five children. Life we were going in a million different directions, 184 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 3: and I remember, so I neglected the garden, but not 185 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 3: for long. It was probably like, I don't know, maybe 186 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 3: a couple of weeks, maybe not even a couple weeks, 187 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 3: maybe less than that. And then one day it's a 188 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 3: beautiful day and I was like, I'm going to go 189 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 3: to spend you know, thirty minutes in the garden. Well 190 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 3: I went out there. It had been decimated. I mean 191 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 3: there were aphids like all over the lettuce leaves. I'd 192 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 3: planted lettuce, and there were aphids all over it. And 193 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 3: I was able to kind of salvage a couple little 194 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 3: leaves that it was not the harvest that it would 195 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 3: have been if I had been out there daily. 196 00:09:58,400 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 2: And when I was standing out there, I. 197 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 3: Just about the Holy Spirit just just such just you know, 198 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 3: see those right here. This is what happens when you're 199 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 3: not abiding in me. You still we still may see 200 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 3: some fruit, but we are not going to see the 201 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 3: harvest that we will see if we are continuously abiding 202 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 3: in the Lord. 203 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 2: So it's just so convicting for me. 204 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 3: I mean, I love the picture of the vine and 205 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 3: the vine dresser because we see it. You know, it 206 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 3: plays out all throughout creation and it's just so applicable. So, yes, 207 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 3: the Bible house is we can do nothing apart nothing. 208 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: Man, And isn't that good news for us? We tend 209 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: to resist that, but it's good news for us because 210 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: we have help. We have a source of life that 211 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 1: we can go to. So that's so good immersing ourselves 212 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: in the Word and then God's present abiding in the vine, 213 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: remaining connected. So the next practice you talk about in 214 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: chapter twelve is the practice of rest, and I love 215 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: the title you give here as well. You say it's 216 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: a settled slow. So you just described a season of 217 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: running around and not tending in the garden and going around. 218 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: So how do you find this settled slow in the 219 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: midst of five kids who are doing all the things 220 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: and you're going in a bunch of different directions. 221 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember I was invited to write a devotional 222 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 3: several years ago and I was supposed to write it, 223 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 3: over come to me all who are weary and heavy laden, 224 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 3: and I will. 225 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 2: Give you rest. 226 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 3: And the instructions were literally just to focus on the 227 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 3: and I will give you rest. So I dug in 228 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 3: kind of deep to that verse. And when I was 229 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 3: writing the devotional it hit me. I don't know why 230 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 3: it hadn't hit me before. It's clear as day. I mean, 231 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 3: it says it in the verse. But I realized rest 232 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 3: is the person of Jesus Christ, and it is his 233 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 3: to give. We are seeking rest in all, you know, 234 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 3: eight hours of sleep, a vacation, a new season. So 235 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 3: many of us are like, I'm so tired. I just 236 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 3: want baseball season to be over. Or I'm so tired 237 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 3: and I just want this recital season to be over. 238 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 3: When the next season comes, I'll be able to rest. 239 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 3: Or when I get that vacation, I'll be able to rest. 240 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 3: We are constantly seeking rest. We're pursuing rest. We take, 241 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 3: you know, we may take melotone and try to get rest. 242 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 3: In reality, the person of rest himself is pursuing us. 243 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 3: We just have to be willing to still ourselves long 244 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 3: enough to receive the. 245 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 2: Gift of rest from him. So many of us. 246 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 3: Yes, we need physical rest, but what you and I 247 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 3: are desperately seeking is actually a deep spiritual soul rest. 248 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 2: We want to rest for our weary souls. 249 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 3: Yes, I need a rest for my body too, but 250 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 3: we need a rest for our weary souls. And that 251 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 3: kind of rest will never be found in eight hours 252 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 3: of uninterrupted or a vacation on an afternoon nap. It 253 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 3: can only be found in the person of Jesus Christ, 254 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 3: because he has said, come to me, all her weary 255 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 3: and heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 256 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 2: Rest is his ticket. 257 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 3: And when I realized that that rest is a person, 258 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 3: is not a pursuit of something. 259 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 2: Rest is a person. 260 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 3: When I realized that, it changed my perspective of the 261 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 3: rest because I realized I didn't need to Christ pursues us. 262 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 3: He pursues every single one of us, and he gives 263 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 3: us the gift of rest if will only be silly 264 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 3: enough to accept it and to rest in him. That 265 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 3: changed and shifted my perspective on rest. 266 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that come to me, Come to me, because I'm 267 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: the one who's going to give you the rest. Just 268 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,719 Speaker 1: like we receive the fruits of the spirit from him, 269 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: we receive rest right heaven. What I love about the 270 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: concept of rest is it was from the very very beginning, 271 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: right he knew we needed it, and he met that 272 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: need at the very He exemplified that for us. He 273 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: gave us that example when he rested on the seventh creation, 274 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: and then when he gave the law, he made rest 275 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: a part of it. And then Christ says, I've come 276 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: to fulfill that part of the law because y'all have 277 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: gotten it out of line. You're you're way too worried 278 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: about what you're doing or what you're not doing. But 279 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: I actually want to give you rest and not burden 280 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: about the rest. And so he redeems that, But so 281 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: often we just ignore that. 282 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 3: I love in Genesis you were talking about God giving us. 283 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 3: You know, he worked for sid he created for six days, 284 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 3: and then on the seventh day he rested. 285 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 2: God did not need to rest. He does not need 286 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 2: to rest. 287 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 3: And so I remember one time just thinking about that, Well, 288 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 3: why did he He didn't need that? God gave it 289 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 3: to us as a model because he knew that we 290 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 3: needed it. He didn't need to partake in that. He 291 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 3: invites us into There is something holy that happens when 292 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 3: we honor the Sabbath because we are invited. Because God 293 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 3: honored that and modeled that for us, we are invited 294 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 3: into that fellowship with Him if we would honor that 295 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 3: rest as well. And the Sabbath is not a command 296 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 3: that you and I have to keep. It was in 297 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 3: the Old Testament when they were given the law, but 298 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 3: when Christ came and fulfilled the law, we now have freedom. 299 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 2: We are not commanded to keep the Sabbath. 300 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 3: But we are invited into it, and it is a 301 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 3: gift that I think we miss out on if we 302 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 3: do not accept that invitation of sabbath rest. And I'm 303 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 3: not saying you have to do it in a formulaic manner. 304 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 3: You don't even have to do it on a Sunday. 305 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 3: You know, I know your husband works on Sundays often. 306 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 3: You know your Sabbath may not be on a Sunday. 307 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 3: But if you can choose a day as a family 308 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 3: where you say this is going to bear a Sabbath 309 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 3: and we are going to enter into sabbath rest because 310 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 3: this is a gift that the Lord has given us 311 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 3: and we don't want to miss out on it. If 312 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 3: you can establish that pattern for your family, you establish 313 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 3: that pattern for your children, and you model that for them. 314 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 3: It is a gift that will continue to reap rewards 315 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 3: throughout their entire life. I mean, this was something that 316 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 3: took me a long time to understand because in the 317 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 3: Western world, we are just so conditioned to go, go, go, go, 318 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 3: go and produce, produce, produce, and taking an entire day 319 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 3: off to rest feels counter into it. And so it's 320 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 3: really hard in the Western world. But we have really 321 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 3: made an effort to implement a day of rest in 322 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 3: our family, and it doesn't look like you know, I 323 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 3: love in Little House on the Prairie when she talks 324 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 3: about the Sabbath. I don't know if you remember this 325 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 3: if you read this, but she talks about the Sabbath 326 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 3: and she hated it because she would literally have to 327 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 3: like sit still in a. 328 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 2: Corner ah and not play. 329 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 3: And so she hey, they go to church to her, 330 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 3: she'd have to come home and just sit still. 331 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 2: That is though, that is that. 332 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 3: Is not a correct celebration of Sabbath. It is not 333 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 3: to rest does not mean we just sit in a 334 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 3: corner on our hands and we don't do anything. Rest 335 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 3: is doing anything that gives you a life giving sense 336 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 3: of rest. And rejuvenation. It's something that fills your spirit 337 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 3: that will allow you to continue to. 338 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 2: Work for the next six days. 339 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 3: So for us, that means we have another family that 340 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 3: we do brunch with almost every Sunday, not every Sunday, 341 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 3: but we go to church and then we do brunch 342 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 3: and it is an multi hour event where we're just 343 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 3: brunching and we're enjoying one another, We're enjoying the gifts 344 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 3: of God of you know, we're tasting and seeing, we're 345 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 3: enjoying community and fellowship. 346 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 2: And so for us, that has become our Sabbath. 347 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 3: So Sabbath rest does not necessarily look like you can't 348 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 3: do any work at all. It's a gift. Like, you know, what, 349 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 3: where do you find rest? Maybe find rest in reading. 350 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 3: Maybe you want to curl up with a book for 351 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 3: two hours on Sunday and you win and model that 352 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 3: for kids for your kids. 353 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 2: Maybe it's going out in the garden. 354 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 3: Maybe it's that you say, I'm not going to cook 355 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 3: Sabbath dinner because that, you know, that just exhausts me. 356 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 3: So I'm going to save my money. We're going to 357 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 3: go out every Sunday night for dinner. Maybe that's your 358 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 3: sabbath rest. I don't know what it looks like that 359 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 3: finds something that fills you up, that fills your cup, 360 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 3: and enter into that as sabbath rest, and try to 361 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 3: implement that throughout your week, and it. 362 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: Won't happen by accident. Right, Like you guys have a routine, 363 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: you have a rhythm. Like you mentioned, my husband's schedule 364 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 1: is kind of all over the place, and so it's 365 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 1: been hard for us to find that kind of rhythm 366 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: in our family. And you know, you have to fight 367 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: for that. And I can't say we're doing a good 368 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: job at it right now right, And so I'm hearing 369 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: this invitation today of this is important. I know it's important. 370 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: When I practice it, I see the fruit of it, 371 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: but so often it just kind of gets on the 372 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: back burner. I have good intentions, but I don't necessarily 373 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,959 Speaker 1: follow through. And so you know, routines and rhythms are 374 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: what help us with that follow through and the living 375 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: of it, living it. 376 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 2: Out absolutely, and you do. 377 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 3: You have to be intentional every week because I get 378 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 3: we've talked about this. You know, in the Kingdom at 379 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 3: War chapter, there's a very real enemy and he just 380 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 3: not want you to enter into sabbath rest. He wants 381 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 3: to continue to keep you busied and distracted so you 382 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 3: don't even think about it. So you do have to 383 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 3: intentionally fight back against that every single week. I am 384 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 3: not saying it's easy. In our society we are, we 385 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 3: live at a frenetic pace. It is not easy, but again, 386 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 3: it is a gift that you really don't want to 387 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 3: miss out on, and so you do have to be 388 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 3: intentional and fight back against the attempts of the enemy. 389 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 2: And then also just the pool of society. 390 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 3: I mean, sometimes it's not you know, there's also just 391 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 3: there are also influences that are not spiritual at work, 392 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 3: just in our current culture and society, that are constantly 393 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 3: p us So it may mean for you even you know, 394 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 3: on your sabbath, maybe you turn your phone off, you know, 395 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 3: you turn off all social media and you just don't 396 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 3: even look at that because those those influences are pulling. 397 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 3: They want our attention, they want our time, and they're 398 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 3: pulling at us. So maybe it even means on sabbath 399 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 3: you just say I'm taking a sabbath from my phone 400 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 3: and I'm turning it off or I'm turning off all 401 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 3: social media, and maybe that's all it is for you. 402 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,120 Speaker 3: But maybe that alone gives you the sense of rest 403 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 3: that you need. So yes, you do absolutely have to 404 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 3: be intentional and fight back. 405 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 1: And then tuning in to your family. When you turn 406 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: that off, you tend to tune in to your family 407 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: and what God's put right in front of you. Well, 408 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: that's so good, shelean, So say, can you say a 409 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: prayer for our listeners today? They're listening and think like 410 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: how do I put this into practice or what do 411 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: I do? That the spirit would meet them and encourage 412 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 1: them where they are. 413 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 2: Absolutely it would be my pleasure. God. 414 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 3: We just come before you right now, and we are 415 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 3: just so grateful that you are a God who meets 416 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 3: us where we are. 417 00:20:58,359 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 2: Lord. 418 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 3: You are not this day and in the cloud's Lord, 419 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 3: but you are here. Your kingdom is at hand. 420 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 2: Lord. 421 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 3: And I just pray for the moms who are listening 422 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 3: to this and want to incorporate practices into their life, 423 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 3: but they're feeling overwhelmed. I just asked that you would 424 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 3: just meet them right where they are with your grace 425 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 3: and compassion. There's a verse in Isaiah that says he 426 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 3: gently leads those with young and so I would just 427 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 3: encourage those moms to know that you are gently leading us. 428 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 3: You are a good shepherd who brings us into your fold, 429 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 3: and you gently lead us. You have tenderness and compassion 430 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 3: and mercy towards us, and you want us to be 431 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 3: in fellowship with you. 432 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 2: God. 433 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 3: I just ask that you would just give us a 434 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 3: heart that longs to know you and to seek you. 435 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 3: And when we come to you in prayer and we 436 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 3: don't know what to pray, that you would give us 437 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 3: the words Lord, And when we're seeking rest and we 438 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 3: feel so busied and distracted, that you would quiet our 439 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 3: minds and you would quite our hearts to sit with 440 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 3: you long enough to. 441 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 2: Receive the kypto rest. Thank you, Lord for your goodness 442 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 2: to us. To Jesus name, we pray, Amen, Amen, Amen. 443 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: I hope you are following along with us in our 444 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 1: summer book club featuring the book When Mothering Is Hard 445 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: and No One Sees by Scheline Roberts. If you have 446 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: not joined us yet, it's not too late to jump in. 447 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 1: Head to the home page of our website to find 448 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 1: out more. Until next time, friends, the Lord bless you 449 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: and keep you, Make his face shine upon you, and 450 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 1: be gracious to you me. The Lord look with favor 451 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: on you, and give you his peace.