1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: When there's been a massive sea change, and how the 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: military is handled, how the military works. So we're seeing 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: recruitment through the roof now since President Trump has been back, 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 1: and since the Secretary of War Pete Hegseth has been 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: at the helm. But before that it was awfully woke. 6 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: How do we know, Well, we found out a lot 7 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: of information during the Biden administration. And also this young 8 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: lady speaking out, Amber Smith, former deputy Assistant to the 9 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: Secretary of Defense Iraq and Afghan Army combat helicopter pilot. 10 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: Honored to have you on and also an author of 11 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: a book called Unfit to Fied, Amber, How are you 12 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: good to see it? 13 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: It's great to see you, Thanks for having me. 14 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: Really glad to have you on. It was no more 15 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: than a year ago, no less than a year ago, 16 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: i should say, where we had the Secretary of Defense disappeared, 17 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: the second in charge didn't know what was going on. 18 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: We had drag shows on army bases. We had people 19 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: who were joining the Army and the Navy, the Air Force, 20 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: Marines just to get transgender surgery. It was a woke time, 21 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: wasn't it. I mean awfully woke. 22 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: It was a woke time. It was a mess, and 23 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 2: it was incredibly dangerous to our military and to our 24 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 2: national security as a whole. To have leadership not only 25 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 2: sort of be okay with this, it was an endorsement 26 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 2: from the Joe Biden administration. The leadership that we saw 27 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 2: under Secretary Austin really put the Pentagon in a downward spiral. 28 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 2: And thankfully, as you mentioned, since President Trump has come 29 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 2: back into office and we've seen a complete leadership shift 30 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,639 Speaker 2: from you know, focusing on those wogue policies to turning 31 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 2: back to a Department of War that is going to 32 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 2: focus on Winnie, and we are already seeing the policies 33 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 2: change to ensure that happens. 34 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: It's Amber Smith. Go get our book. It's called Unfit 35 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: to Fight. How woke policies are destroying our military. 36 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 2: This is out now, right, it is out now. It 37 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: came out last summer. 38 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: Okay, go and get it. Go find out exactly what 39 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: she's talking about. It was probably way worse than we, 40 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: as the American public saw. But I always ask this 41 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: very rudimentary question when I have somebody new on that 42 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: I don't know very well. I know it was woke. 43 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: I know the policies were disgusting. I know that that 44 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: it was purposeful. It wasn't just by accident, and the 45 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: simple question is always this, why what did they gain? 46 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: Why do this? 47 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 2: Well? I think it was an ideology push. It was 48 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 2: something that we saw start in the Obama administration sort 49 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 2: of quietly under the radar, and I think that it 50 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: wasn't just the Department of Defense at the time. You 51 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: look at it across you know, Department of Education, You 52 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 2: look at it across the health in the health and 53 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: medical industry, some of the woke changes that were happening 54 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: in there, and I think that for I think the 55 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 2: American people kind of focused in on those different industries 56 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: and sort of thought that the military, uh wouldn't be 57 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: as affected by some of these woke policies. You know, 58 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: people often of the war fighter, you know, enlisting from 59 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 2: Red States, patriotic Americans that aren't going to buy into 60 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 2: this woke nonsense that we saw being pushed down their throats. 61 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 2: But instead it was started to be taught to cadets 62 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 2: at West Point, at the Air Force Academy, to those young, 63 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 2: new impressionable leaders who were then going to come into 64 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 2: the military as second lieutenants and lead with that woke mindset, 65 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 2: and we saw that with this cultural shift that was 66 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 2: really pushing this, and so it started sort of as 67 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 2: this silent push in the Obama administration, and there were 68 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 2: some policies that were public that, you know, we saw 69 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: with the change of women being allowed to serve in 70 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 2: combat positions, with the transgender policies that came out of 71 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: the Obama administration that the Trump administration then tried to 72 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 2: sort of neutralize when they got into office, and then 73 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 2: obviously went into full swing once Biden took office. 74 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: It's Amber Smith, former Deputy Assistant to the Secretary of Defense, 75 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: or book is called Unfit to Fight. How woke policies 76 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: are destroying our military. My wife and I are watching 77 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: the show called Special Forces and other Celebrity. Special Forces 78 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: is not as tough as the original series out of 79 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 1: the UK. I'm not sure if you watch that, but 80 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: it really does show that it really doesn't matter what 81 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 1: your gender is if you can do the job. That's 82 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: not the way we were doing it for four years 83 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: under Biden, right, I mean, they were enticing people to 84 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: come in who weren't strong enough, who weren't willing enough, 85 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: who weren't fit enough. People who were coming in because 86 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: they wanted to get the train surgery or to have 87 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: the drag shows or whatever. I would believe, and I 88 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 1: want you to answer, I'm not entering for you, but 89 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: I would think that you and I agree that if 90 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: a woman can do the physical, strenuous exercise and carry 91 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: the equipment and be in the front lines with a man, 92 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: that's perfectly fine as long as you can do that, 93 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: as long as it's not for a diversity push, right. 94 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it should be based on merit, bottom line merit, 95 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 2: you know, equal standards. You're there because you're the best 96 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 2: person for the job. You pass every test male female, 97 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 2: if you're the best person for the job. But unfortunately 98 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 2: we saw with what with how Biden tried to implement 99 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: this policy that it wasn't as black and white as that. 100 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: If you read in my book, I have an entire 101 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 2: chapter on this, and if President Obama laid out or 102 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: along with Secretary Ash Carter, they laid out seven sort 103 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 2: of steps to this policy that commanders across the military 104 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 2: were supposed to follow. And if you read those seven 105 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 2: seven categories, you would be like, oh, this makes sense, 106 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 2: This absolutely sounds good on paper. This is going to 107 00:05:54,920 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 2: be implemented the right way. The problem was culturally, people 108 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 2: had already started to buy into this wokeness. So you 109 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 2: had commanders in the military being like well, and like 110 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 2: you mentioned, even in special forces or special operations different 111 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 2: units inside of there saying, well, I want to be 112 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 2: the first commander to have a female in this very 113 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 2: specialized special operations unit, so I can put that as 114 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 2: a bullet point for when I go to get promoted. 115 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 2: It looks like it makes me stand out as the 116 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 2: first commander to have a female do that. So you 117 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 2: saw that type of behavior from leaders in the military. 118 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 2: You saw some leaders wanting to ensure that a female 119 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 2: had a battle buddy. So instead of just one, say 120 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 2: one was there based on merit, then we wanted to 121 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 2: make sure that, you know, she wasn't there by herself, 122 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 2: and for safety reasons, she needed to have another female there. 123 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 2: But maybe there wasn't another female good enough, So we 124 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 2: had to now just sort of been the rules a 125 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 2: little bit. We saw the Secretary of the Army, you know, 126 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 2: Congress tried to say that the physical fitness test needed 127 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 2: to be gender neutral and age neutral, and so the 128 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: Army instituted this new physical fitness standard, and they found 129 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 2: that women could not in alarming numbers could like most 130 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 2: women could not meet these physical standards. And so what 131 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 2: did they do. Instead of being like, Okay, well maybe 132 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 2: we need to reevaluate who's here, right, instead, the Secretary 133 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 2: of the Army said, this is gonna hurt recruitment for 134 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 2: women and retention for women. So instead of enforcing the standard, 135 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 2: we're now going to lower the standard. And that's exactly 136 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 2: what they did. So those types of policy decisions and 137 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 2: the leaders that we had at the time were absolutely 138 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: horrible to the military and especially you know, we heard 139 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 2: about the recruitment crisis that was going on under the 140 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 2: Biden administration, but what wasn't talked about as much was 141 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 2: the retention crisis was getting those stellar leaders inside the 142 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 2: military to stick around and stay. They were done with 143 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 2: the policies. And I can't tell you how many good 144 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 2: patriotic American leaders in the military that were like, I'm done, 145 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 2: I'm out. I don't want to take battalion command, I 146 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 2: don't want to take this leadership position that's being offered 147 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 2: to me that I thought I was working my whole 148 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 2: career towards. And so instead they decided to go back 149 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 2: into the civilian world. So it is I am very 150 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 2: happy with what I'm seeing in terms of these policies 151 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 2: being turned around out of the Department of War. It's 152 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 2: absolutely refreshing to see after all of my research that 153 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 2: I've done, both for my book and then personal experience 154 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 2: from working in the earring at the Pentagon. So the 155 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 2: ship is turning back in the right direction, thankfully, and 156 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 2: I'm glad to see that this is changing, especially for 157 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 2: our national security. 158 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: It's Amber Smith, former Deputy Assistant to the Secretary of Defense, 159 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: also a helicopter pilot. For God Sex, take me having 160 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: a helicopter sometime, Amber, that'd be amazing. Her book is 161 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: called Unfit to Fight. How woke policies are destroying our military. 162 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: You know, there's so much there that you just said, 163 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: and I just want to put this out there, and 164 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: I say it consistently because it's true. Men are in 165 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: general stronger than women. Men are in general able to 166 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: carry heavier things than women can. Are there women out 167 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 1: there that can do it, absolutely, But as you said, 168 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: they have to be able to meet the meritorious standard. 169 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: They have to be able to I think Pete Hegseth 170 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,719 Speaker 1: said it recently. He said, we're going to go back 171 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: to the male standard, which is thus standard. And if 172 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: you can do it, then you can do it. And 173 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: I mentioned this all the time. I work out a 174 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: lot of six, one, two forty. I can outlift almost 175 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: every woman on the planet. Now, are there some that 176 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: are weightlifters and so on that could probably? Probably, But 177 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: when it comes to the physical aspect. Plus, I'm going 178 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: to die younger than my wife will. I mean, it's 179 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: just that's the way the averages go. So why can't 180 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: we notice that, realize that. And when you get a 181 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 1: woman that can pass, and as you said, there are 182 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 1: some that do, why would you give her somebody inferior 183 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: next to her that will cause her death or cause 184 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: her capture when you want people of the same standard, 185 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: let's just close her eyes to gender. The fact that 186 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: the public was into this woke garbage didn't make us 187 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: better war fighters because we were adding more trains or 188 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: women or whatever the category was. At what point? At 189 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: what point was it when the president wanted guess I'm 190 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 1: answering my own question. At what point did we wake 191 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: up and say, holy crap, we will not win a war? 192 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: If we keep doing it this way. Was it the 193 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: inauguration of Trump again, of anything that I just said 194 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: about men versus women. I mean, that's that's common sense, 195 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: isn't it. That's nature. 196 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 2: No, it's common sense, but it's it actually, like to 197 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 2: take it a step further, it's more than just sort 198 00:10:56,160 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: of the failures when it comes to luring physical standard. 199 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 2: What it also comes with is having you know, not 200 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 2: equal standards, basically like what we've seen where we had 201 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 2: a gender standard versus a mission standard. A mission standard 202 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,719 Speaker 2: very important. That's what you were just talking about with 203 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 2: the Secretary of War. When you have a gender standard, 204 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 2: it hurts morale and it damages trust between a team 205 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 2: because when you have some people on a team or 206 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 2: in a unit because they were the best person for 207 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 2: the job and they worked hard, they did what they 208 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 2: needed to do, and they got selected for a position, 209 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 2: then you have a you know, say, a handful of 210 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 2: other people who are there, but they had to do 211 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 2: different push up standards, different two mile run standards. They 212 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 2: had to whatever the difference may be. So they're there, 213 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 2: and so the people who met the standard are saying, well, 214 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 2: I had to work really hard to get here, and 215 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 2: you're here because you're a different gendered and we have 216 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 2: to meet a certain quota, even though they're not allowed 217 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 2: to call them quotas. That's the loophole. They call them 218 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 2: targets instead of quotas to stay legal. So anyway, that 219 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 2: now you have this divide right within a unit where 220 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 2: you're supposed to have unit cohesion, where you work together 221 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 2: and blend as a team. And then, like I said, 222 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 2: that trust, you want to make sure that you can 223 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 2: trust your teammates to be there to pull you out 224 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 2: of a helicopter that crashed, of a vehicle that rolled 225 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 2: over of you know, when the pressure is on and 226 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 2: the bullets are flying, that everybody physically can do the 227 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 2: same thing, and you can have that trust right there. 228 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 2: So that's the thing we'll admit further. 229 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: When you walk in, if there's standards, You're right, I'm 230 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: sorry for interrupting me. You've really got my brain work 231 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: in here. When you walk in. If I walk into 232 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: to the platoon, the battalion, the barracks, whatever, and I 233 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: see you there, I don't want to think to myself, 234 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: is she one that checked the box? I want to 235 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: think to myself, she's going to kick some ass here, 236 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: And that's what you're. 237 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: Talking exactly, exactly, And that's why I say whenever I 238 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 2: get talks about females in combat and females in the military. 239 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 2: As someone who was in the military for over seven 240 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 2: and a half years in a very male dominant environment, 241 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 2: a helicopter that still had very few female pilots flying it, 242 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 2: you know women want to be there. It makes women's 243 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 2: lives easier when they are there because of merit, because 244 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 2: they don't want people walking into that room and saying, 245 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 2: is she here because she's a female, or is she 246 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 2: here because she's the best person for the job and 247 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 2: also happens to be female. And that's what happens when 248 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 2: you have those separate standards and women have to end 249 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: up working you know, double what they would if those 250 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 2: standards were the same. 251 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: It is Ambersmith. Go get her book. It's called Unfit 252 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: to Fight. How woke policy are destroying our military? So 253 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: for those four years you walked in, you didn't know, 254 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: you had no idea. I also know that in your 255 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: book you talk about how failure somehow got you promoted 256 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: during that period of time. How did that work? 257 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: Well, I believe you're referring to me talking about senior 258 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 2: military generals and admirals, and a culture that was sort 259 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 2: of created where it was called failing up. So instead 260 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 2: of especially we saw it with the COVID vaccine commanders 261 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 2: not wanting to do their own research and just sort 262 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 2: of falling in line because everyone was terrified, instead of 263 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 2: standing on principle and understanding and order. And so you 264 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 2: saw a lot of military leaderships just learning to sort 265 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 2: of shut up and go along with some of these 266 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 2: woke policies that they knew were likely hurting the military. 267 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 2: But sadly, it was a culture where if they wanted 268 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 2: to get promoted, they knew that they either needed to 269 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 2: get in line with these policies and sort of be 270 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 2: the enforcers of this uh, or they would be forced out. 271 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 2: And sadly, that was a culture that created and it 272 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 2: it also became a culture of the untouchables once you 273 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 2: got to a certain level that was much more political, 274 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 2: probably an O six and above, a colonel and above, 275 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 2: and then into the general officer corps. It was a 276 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 2: political job and the military should not be political at 277 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 2: any level. UH. And so just as what we saw 278 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 2: with General Millie and him, you know, stepping outside his 279 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 2: right and left limits, including thinking that it was his 280 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 2: responsibility to call his Chinese counterpart and let him know. 281 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: That's shocking. 282 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 2: He would warn him of any sort of strike that 283 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 2: was going to happen, which is just absolutely insane to 284 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 2: me that that was not looked into further. Well, here 285 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 2: the senior military yes officer operating that way. It was 286 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 2: just absolutely insane to me. 287 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: Part Marshall could be treason, could be seditioned, all that stuff. 288 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: It should have been on the table when he did that. 289 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: That blew my mind that we knew that we did 290 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: not have the military we thought we had. Hopefully we're 291 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: on the way back. It's amber Smith get her book, 292 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: it's called Unfit to Fight. She's also at amber Smith 293 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: USA over on X. Let me ask you about about 294 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: how long it took to get it? So woke eight 295 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: years under Obama, four years under Biden, so it was 296 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: really Obama on steroids as Biden was licking ice cream. 297 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: How long is it going to take to fix it? 298 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: It's not fixed yet. I think heg Seth is saying 299 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: and doing the right things. I think that President Trump 300 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: is saying and doing the right things. But you can't 301 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: snap your fingers and undo all that was that was done. 302 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: How do you fix it? How long do you think 303 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 1: it'll take? 304 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 2: Well, you hit the nail on the head is that 305 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 2: it's not only just a policy problem. We've seen some 306 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: of that policy with executive orders change you know, quickly 307 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 2: on paper. So you have the policy problem, which is 308 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 2: a much quicker fix, and then you have the cultural problem, which, 309 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 2: as you mentioned, is going to take time. So, yes, 310 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 2: it took years for this ideology to infiltrate the military. 311 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 2: It's going to take as long, if not twice as 312 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 2: long to correct it because it's systemic within the military 313 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 2: culture at this point, Like I said, they had generations 314 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 2: of young military leaders being told and being taught that 315 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:56,479 Speaker 2: this is normal, this is the way this is. If 316 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 2: you read in my book, some of the examples are 317 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 2: just insane that taxpayer dollars were used to teach West 318 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 2: Point cadets and Air Force cadets some of the craziest 319 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 2: things that you have heard about. And so that part 320 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:18,119 Speaker 2: is going to take some time. It's it's you know, 321 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 2: hopefully we have another Republican administration that can continue on 322 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 2: after President Trump to continue to fix some of these 323 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 2: problems because it is not going to be a quick fix. 324 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 2: It's going to be incredibly hard. And the Pentagon is 325 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 2: the biggest bureaucracy that we have, the Department of Wars 326 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 2: the biggest bureaucracy that we have. And so it's not 327 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 2: just changing a military culture, it's working with all of 328 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 2: the careers that know that the careers meaning the gs, 329 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 2: civilians that have a career working at the Pentagon and 330 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 2: aren't politicals, they're not just there for the administration that 331 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 2: know that they can wait out some of these policies. 332 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 2: So that's a problem as well. So they're doing a 333 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 2: good job though they're trying to fix some of this 334 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:09,479 Speaker 2: twelve years. It's going to be an uphill battle. 335 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: But well, let me ask you this. I think I 336 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: know the answer, and I'm pretty sure I do, but 337 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: I want I want you to give me you know, 338 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: a better answer than I know in my head. How 339 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: big a role does morale play and turning this entire 340 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 1: thing around. I'm guessing the morale was in the dumps 341 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: when they were pushing all this trends and woke and 342 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: just strange diversity and DEI garbage. I'm guessing morale plays 343 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: a huge role. How big a deal is it in 344 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: the military in getting back to what the mission originally was, 345 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: which is being great war fighters. 346 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 2: Well, that's like, that's a multi front problem. So you have, 347 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 2: like you said, the diversity, the DEI, the woke problems 348 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 2: that were being shoved down everybody's throat, and they're like 349 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 2: most war fighters are like, I'm a patriotic American who 350 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 2: loves my country and I want to be here to 351 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 2: serve and you know, ensure that the world's a better 352 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,719 Speaker 2: place for our children. And then they have all of 353 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 2: this crap being shoved down their throats and they're like it. 354 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 2: After a while, that starts to seriously damage morale. Then 355 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 2: you have the standards, the standards things that we talked about, 356 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 2: where that's damaging as well because it's like, why am 357 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 2: I working so hard to be here when you guys 358 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 2: are just there's this double standard that exists. Of course, 359 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 2: that's going to damage morale as well. And then something 360 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 2: that was happening early on in the Obama administration, probably 361 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 2: even a little bit towards the end of the Bush administration, 362 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 2: was allowing lawyers to fight our wars for us and 363 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 2: really tying the hands of the war fighter out on 364 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 2: the battlefield, so to the point where they were having 365 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 2: people were concerned for their own safety and when the 366 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 2: bullets are flying the like, it is unfair to the warfighter. 367 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 2: It's setting them up for failure when they have to 368 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 2: hesitate because they're scared of their own legal system. If 369 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 2: they are going to have you know, eyes turned on them, 370 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 2: that suddenly they're the bad guy. And sadly, we saw 371 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 2: that happen a lot. You know, of course, there's u 372 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 2: CMJ that soldiers have to follow, and the majority of 373 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 2: them do in combat, good soldiers that do their job. 374 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 2: But you talk to anybody that served in the later 375 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 2: part of the post nine to eleven wars, they felt it. 376 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 2: They felt that the lawyer's side of things breathing down 377 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 2: their neck every time they went out. And I think 378 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 2: that was just such a disservice to do to our 379 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 2: service members for them to feel that their leadership would 380 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 2: not have their back when something rough happened in combat. Which, 381 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 2: by the way, let me remind everyone, it's combat. It's 382 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 2: not a black and white world. It's crazy things happen, 383 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 2: it's intense, and there's a gazillion things happening at once, 384 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 2: and so I'm over the Monday morning quarterbacks when it 385 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 2: comes to combat, which we're seeing today with Washington, DC 386 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 2: going after leadership at the Department of War right now. 387 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 1: I want to get into that in earnest in a second, 388 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 1: it's Amber Smith. Go get our book called Unfit to Fight. 389 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: How woke policies are destroying our military came out this 390 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: past summer. When you were speaking. All I can think 391 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: of was the rules of engagement in Afghanistan, which we're discussing. Basically, 392 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: we were a police force. Shouldn't have been. We're war fighters. 393 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: We should be winning war. It's not policing an area. 394 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: And also we had targets on our backs. If I 395 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: recalled during Obama, literally the rules of engagement were you 396 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 1: could not go after the bad guys anymore. You had 397 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: to have somebody attack you first and then maybe you 398 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: can go and get them afterwards if you got the 399 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: okay from somebody at scentcom or something. Am I right 400 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: in that what you were saying was referring almost directly 401 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: to that, in that we had no intention of winning 402 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: the Afghanistan war. We just didn't. We were just there 403 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,719 Speaker 1: in force. People were being maimed and killed on our side, 404 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: and we were not allowed to prosecute the war? Am 405 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: I right about that? 406 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 2: You are correct? And it was infuriating because the American 407 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 2: soldiers should always know that they that their leaders are 408 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 2: going to give them the best training, equipment and resources 409 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 2: to be able to go out in a combat environment 410 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 2: and accomplish their mission. And just off of the things 411 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,959 Speaker 2: that you mentioned with the ROE and the restrictions that 412 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 2: they were under, it was like, why are we sending 413 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 2: troops outside the wire if you're setting them up for 414 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 2: failure and they're not allowed to do their job. You're 415 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 2: putting them in harm's way, Yes, for no reason, and 416 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 2: that to me is awful to do. 417 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: To Amber, why do you think why do you think 418 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: we stayed there so long? Was it just about making 419 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: money for the outside corporations and so on? I don't 420 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,719 Speaker 1: want to get into conspiracy theories, but there was no 421 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,919 Speaker 1: reason to continue Afghanistan for that long if we had 422 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: no intention of winning. 423 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 2: It's the war machine. Once you start, you can't stop. 424 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 2: And I think that if the military should always be 425 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 2: given a clear and concise mission and in any state, 426 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 2: this is what it looks like to win, right, So 427 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:26,479 Speaker 2: we could have absolutely gone in and accomplished the mission 428 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 2: and done what we needed to do. But then once 429 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 2: Obama came in and it was that mission became somewhat 430 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 2: ambiguous and people were like, well, what are we doing here? 431 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 2: After Osama bin Laden was killed, people are like, okay, 432 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 2: what is the you know, thirty thousand foot mission here? 433 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 2: And you talk to a lot of soldiers they didn't 434 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 2: know anymore, and that creates a little bit of doubt. 435 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 2: That's also not good for the warfighter in a combat zone, 436 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 2: Like you want the warfighter to know why they're there, 437 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 2: why it's important that they're there, and what they are 438 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 2: contributing to winning the war. And sadly it drug on 439 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 2: for so long with poor leadership that they couldn't answer 440 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 2: that question anymore. 441 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: We literally could we could have question years, right, could. 442 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 2: We could have? Because after. 443 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: Let go? 444 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, after after been Laden was killed, nobody could answer 445 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 2: that question anymore. And you had generals going on Capitol 446 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 2: Hill who were testifying, you know, giving this like rose 447 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 2: tinted glasses version of Afghanistan and what they were accomplishing 448 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 2: and who they were training. In all actuality, none of 449 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 2: it was real. We were wasting billions of dollars and 450 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 2: you know, into the trillions when when you include Iraq 451 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 2: and Afghanistan and then the the VA taking care of 452 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 2: veterans in the aftermath, and it's like what to show 453 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 2: for it? You know, we left billions of dollars of 454 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 2: equipment behind when we left, and you know, the Taliban 455 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 2: is in power. So if there's a reason to use 456 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 2: our military, yeah, then that's important. That's the job of 457 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 2: the military. But I do think that the military has 458 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 2: to have a clear and concise mission, and leadership owes 459 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 2: that to them, and they should be given the opportunity 460 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 2: to go seek out in this destroy the enemy that 461 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 2: their mission is, that their mission involves, and that wasn't 462 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 2: happening towards the end of Afghanistan. 463 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: It's all very sick. It's Amber Smith. Go follow her 464 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: at Ambersmith USA over on x Unfit to Fight is 465 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: the name of the book. I've been remiss to not 466 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: to not at least get a few minutes with you 467 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: on this, And thanks for all the time. Today we 468 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: are blowing up people who are in speed boats loaded 469 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: to the brim with cocaine. We're blowing them up as 470 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: they head north to drop all that stuff up on 471 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: our shores and Democrats are taking the side of the 472 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: drug runners as somebody who's got this extensive military history, 473 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 1: as somebody who wants to know what the mission is. 474 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 1: And I think the mission in that one is let's 475 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: stop the bad guys that are bringing drugs to America. 476 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: Is there any question in your mind that this is 477 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 1: not a war crime, as the Democrats are suggesting, by 478 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: killing bad guys bringing drugs to our shores. 479 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 2: It's such a distraction, I think Washington. I think the Washington, 480 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 2: DC Democrats have finally found someone that they hate more 481 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 2: than the President, and that's now the Secretary of War, 482 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 2: so they're going after him with everything they can. When 483 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 2: the President from the get go has said that stopping 484 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 2: drugs from coming into this country and annually killing hundreds 485 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 2: of thousands of Americans is one of his top priorities, 486 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 2: so it should come as no surprise that he is 487 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 2: using He designated these groups as terror organizations and he's 488 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 2: now going after them. It is completely legal, and it 489 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 2: is keeping drugs that are killing Americans off of our streets. 490 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 2: I think it's disgusting that the Democrats are siding with 491 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 2: drug cartels and these drug conners over American lives. 492 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: They literally because I guess they bombed a boat once 493 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,199 Speaker 1: and then two guys survived it. They literally said we 494 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: should have gone down via the Geneva Convention, offered them 495 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 1: safe harbor or some other crap. And then they're saying 496 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 1: these are men with families and so on. The real 497 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 1: story was the guy survived it, got back on the boat, 498 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: and we're calling another boat to come and help them 499 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: continue the mission, and we stopped the mission. I mean, Imbra, 500 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: why are we having this discussion? Not you and me, 501 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: I love this, but why are we having this discussion 502 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: in Washington in Congress where we literally are watching people, 503 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: as you said, and as I've said, taking the side 504 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: of drug cartels over the Department of War. How did 505 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: we get here? I mean, it sounds like an awfully 506 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: philosophical question, but there had to have been a path 507 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: to where these people feel safe saying the drug dealer 508 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 1: is the good guy, or a Brego Garcia who's an 509 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: MS thirteen guy, he's the good guy somehow, Or the 510 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: people in Washington, DC who are carjacking, they're the good 511 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: guys and the National Guards shouldn't be there. Do you 512 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: have any thoughts on how we got here as a nation. 513 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 2: Well, I think it's really sad that the Democrats would 514 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 2: play politics with American lives. They, like I said earlier, 515 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 2: they have such significant trumpt arrangement syndrome that they can't 516 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 2: even appreciate something he does when he is saving American 517 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 2: lives in the tens and thousands. We're not just talking 518 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 2: about like one or two here. They say that every 519 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 2: time they blow up one of those drug boats, it 520 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 2: saves twenty five thousand American lives. Why is that a problem. 521 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 2: It's what The President's number one job when he is 522 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 2: in office is to text the American people, and that's 523 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 2: exactly what he's doing, and he's using the resources that 524 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 2: he has available to him to ensure that happens. America 525 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 2: is a better place and a safer place when we 526 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 2: don't have drugs in this system. And whether it's they're 527 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 2: coming across the southern border or they're coming in on 528 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 2: these speedboats, the delivery doesn't matter. They're still bringing drugs 529 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 2: in and it still needs to stop. 530 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: Last question for you, Amber, and thanks for all the 531 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: time today. Go follow her at Amber Smith USA Unfit 532 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: to Fight. How woke policies are destroying our military is 533 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: the name of the book. Are you fearful about how 534 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: many terrorists may have come across the border during Biden? 535 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: Is it in the hundreds, is it in the thousands? 536 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 2: What do you think about that it's in the thousands. 537 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 2: And it is absolutely terrifying to know that there are 538 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,959 Speaker 2: known terrorists in the thousands just sitting here in America 539 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 2: waiting for the right time. And if there's one thing 540 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 2: that we know and should have learned from nine to 541 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 2: eleven is that they can be patient when they need 542 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 2: to be and they have every intent of attacking America 543 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 2: from the inside. And so I hope that you know 544 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 2: every resource that we have right now is being used 545 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 2: to track these terrorists down that are already here and 546 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 2: planning and waiting to attack Americans. 547 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: I'm with you, Amber, It's a warning that everybody needs 548 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: to hear. For sure. Go get the book called Unfit 549 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: to Fight, How woke policies are destroying our military? It 550 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: is Amber Smith. Go follow her at Ambersmith USA. Thanks 551 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: a million for all you've done, Thanks for your sacrifice 552 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: of the country, and please come on the show again. 553 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. Absolutely appreciate it. 554 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: You very welcome. We're back after this. Actually, this is 555 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: it for this episode of Unshaken and Afraid with Joe 556 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: Pegs another one to drop very soon.