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Speaker 1: Life Audio.

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Speaker 2: Today I'll talk about that. We're joined by dear friend

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Speaker 2: and documentary producer Alison Holland to talk about her new

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Speaker 2: project about Ronald Reagan. Then John forgets what generation he's

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Speaker 2: in and ponders the last time we had Ali as

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Speaker 2: a guest and he almost burned their friendship to the ground. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: I decide I'm exactly as famous as I ever want

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Speaker 2: to be, and wonder whether the world's longest hot dog

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Speaker 2: was even edible. Plus a discussion about a timely quote

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Speaker 2: from the late great Tim Keller about the gospel. Today's

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Speaker 2: episode is not sponsored by to go boxes. Can't finish

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Speaker 2: your meal at the restaurant, let it rot in your

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Speaker 2: own fridge for a few days. But first a word

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Speaker 2: from our actual sponsor.

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Speaker 1: What's up out there?

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Speaker 3: I'm John here with Johnny also a special guest today,

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Speaker 3: our good friend Ali is with us. Is talk about

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Speaker 3: that it's going to be an exciting episode.

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Speaker 2: I can feel it already, Alison Holland, I should say,

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Speaker 2: because last time we just said Caleb, our good friend Caleb,

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Speaker 2: and then it took us like halfway through the episode

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Speaker 2: before I say Caleb Christopher Edwards.

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Speaker 1: So if somebody was like wondering, who's camp.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, full legal name. Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 3: You know, you know, I think that you might still

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Speaker 3: have your maiden name in my wife's phone.

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Speaker 1: Really yeah, because again I kind of love that.

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Speaker 2: I think you still have your youth group photo in

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Speaker 2: my phone.

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Speaker 4: I kind of love that never changed.

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Speaker 2: So does Jeffrey. Jeffrey's got the little ski I had

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Speaker 2: a little ski jump thing in the front of his hair.

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Speaker 2: He has that in my photo of Jeffrey photo and.

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Speaker 3: It may still be somewhere. Was you and him in

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Speaker 3: purple skyhook shirts when you were dating.

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Speaker 4: I know exactly the photo you're talking about.

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Speaker 3: It was like downstairs, I think in the four years

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Speaker 3: or something down there. Yeah, and true love. Tell everybody

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Speaker 3: about yourself, Like why do we know you so well?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Well is going to get of me?

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Speaker 4: I mean this could be a really long answer, really

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Speaker 4: short answer. They know me so well because I started

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Speaker 4: coming to youth group here a million years ago, and

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Speaker 4: then I was Sadie's nanny, that's right, little Sadie girl.

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Speaker 4: And then Johnny ran the Young Adults ministry.

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Speaker 3: It was Johnny's nanny, that's right.

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Speaker 2: Also I needed help.

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Speaker 4: And uh yeah, and Jeffery was really close to y'all,

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Speaker 4: and then we weren't dating it first, obviously because we

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Speaker 4: we did and now here we are old.

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Speaker 2: Friends, old friends, and you've been on the show before.

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Speaker 2: It's been way too long.

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Speaker 4: It's actually been for the.

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Speaker 2: Last time to talk about your podcast, which was the

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Speaker 2: Kennedy Dynasty podcast, And uh, I think about you every

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Speaker 2: time I see something having to do with the Kennedy's.

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Speaker 2: We listened to American Scandal. Do you listen to American Scandal? No,

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Speaker 2: it's a great podcast. But anyway, they had I think

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Speaker 2: before six parter on chap equitic and it was a

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Speaker 2: lot of stuff I did not it. Yes, it's so

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Speaker 2: good because in the end they always interview somebody who's

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Speaker 2: like an expert in the field and his whole take

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Speaker 2: on like dynasties in general, and what his take on

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Speaker 2: what chapa quid, the legacy of chap Equittic is, and

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Speaker 2: what Ted Kennedy's overall legacy was. It was really fascinating

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Speaker 2: to me. But I just kept thinking, I wonder how

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Speaker 2: much of this stuff Ali already knows.

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Speaker 1: Right because she tells what's real and what's not.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I know so much about them it's kind

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Speaker 4: of crazy. But yeah, uh podcast ended last year, so

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Speaker 4: this is my first podcast back since I quit the podcast,

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Speaker 4: a whole new career since I was on here last episodes.

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Speaker 4: That's a great question, passed one hundred. I think I'm

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Speaker 4: nowhere near talking research base, and ours is too.

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Speaker 2: We do a lot of researching our own opinions.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, you put a lot of work into the

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it was a lot of work and it

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Speaker 4: launched everything, honestly for my career.

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Speaker 1: So you're wearing a lot of different stuff.

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Speaker 4: Now, completely different. I am a director and producer now,

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Speaker 4: contrary to popular belief, I am not an industry because

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Speaker 1: Well, I would never have said that.

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Speaker 4: That's the thing. People are like, oh, you had such

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been saying that for years. Know what's funny.

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Speaker 2: told it to people before in a butchered way. But

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Speaker 2: you had. How it all got started really was you

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Speaker 2: had Clint Hill on your pod right eye, and he didn't.

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Speaker 2: He was famously reclusive, did not like doing interviews. He's

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Speaker 1: Basically, he's very reclusive. But he was charmed by you.

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Speaker 4: So a little bit okay, So what how was mister

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Speaker 4: Hill actually did start writing about He was reclusive for

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Speaker 4: a lot of years and then it's actually a beautiful

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Speaker 2: For the people who don't.

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Speaker 4: Know, famously, he is the Secret Service agent that jumped

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Speaker 4: and he saved Missus Kennedy's life. He was her agent

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Speaker 4: battled a lot. If you have not read his books,

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Speaker 4: highly recommend Missus Kennedy and Me Five Presidents. He and

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Speaker 4: Lisa wrote amazing books together. But he actually Lisa is

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Speaker 2: The get He's the one if I just as an outsider,

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Speaker 4: And so I basically pestered their publicist for years trying

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Speaker 4: So they come on, and I don't know, we hit

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Speaker 4: well that was amazing. I'll never talk to him again.

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Speaker 4: That was what a dream, you know. And then through

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Speaker 4: they have literally become family to me. Now. Lisa and

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Speaker 4: I own a production company together called Holland Hill Productions.

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Speaker 4: Mister Hill has just, I mean, both of them have

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Speaker 4: made a huge impact on my family, my children.

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Speaker 1: Holland Hill sounds like a really nice subdivision, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, it's so funny.

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Speaker 2: It's just kind of like, there's not really a hill.

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Speaker 2: it's not Holland Hill. That's like Mount Juliet. There's no

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Speaker 4: And what's so funny is Lisa and when we were

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Speaker 3: Hey, I do want to talk about I want to

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Speaker 3: four years and you have a theory about that, which

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Speaker 1: It's not our finest hour.

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Speaker 1: I think you're going to be surprised. So we were.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just you know, it was working on my friendship.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so no disaster today.

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Speaker 4: That's why we're here to be guys.

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Speaker 2: That whole thing was sus that's what I think.

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Speaker 1: That's what it's all.

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Speaker 3: I was like, there's some things that we're gonna write

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Speaker 3: I think Sus has already passed, Like yeah, riz, yeah, no,

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Speaker 3: you can't.

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Speaker 2: Pretty quick.

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Speaker 3: The last thing someone wants is a Bible study from

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Speaker 3: a publishing company where someone saying that because they're gonna

446
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Speaker 3: assume that an old person wrote that, you're trying to

447
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Speaker 3: sound young, so I don't even try.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, You're just so gen z

449
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Speaker 4: though they're just very X.

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Speaker 3: I'm actually exitio by apologize for mixing up my letters.

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Speaker 3: Yeah today, Tim Keller. Tim Keller passed I think two.

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Speaker 2: Years ago, and it was longer than that, but maybe

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Speaker 2: you know, I.

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Speaker 3: Read a lot of Clive Staples Lewis quotes tim Keller

455
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Speaker 3: as like a pastor in my lifetime. It's probably someone

456
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Speaker 3: I'd like to be like the most. And he didn't

457
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Speaker 3: care about being a star, being a popular It's nothing

458
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Speaker 3: like that. Just I think a guy who you know,

459
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Speaker 3: because he was human and because he was able to

460
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Speaker 3: share his struggles. He didn't try to act like perfection.

461
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Speaker 3: And maybe something comes out about Tim Keller, I don't

462
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Speaker 3: know or whatever, but I feel like that he I

463
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Speaker 3: feel like that he shepherd, did well and try to

464
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Speaker 3: find the right He pastored in New York City Redeemer Church,

465
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Speaker 3: and but he tried to do things right. And I

466
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Speaker 3: really he was an amazing writer. Amazing writer. So a

467
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Speaker 3: little jealous of Tim Keller, but I still his stuff

468
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Speaker 3: still speaks to me.

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Speaker 1: He said, without an understanding of.

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Speaker 3: The gospel, we will either naively let's start again. Without

471
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Speaker 3: understanding of the gospel, we will be either naively utopian

472
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Speaker 3: or cynically disillusioned. We will be demonizing something that isn't

473
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Speaker 3: bad enough to explain the mess we are in, and

474
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Speaker 3: we will be idolizing something that isn't powerful enough to

475
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Speaker 3: get us out of it. This, in the end, is

476
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Speaker 3: what all other worldviews do. So he's talking about the

477
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Speaker 3: gospel being a different kind of worldview, we will either

478
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Speaker 3: be demonizing something that's not bad enough to explain the

479
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Speaker 3: mess we're in. And I think that we're talking about

480
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Speaker 3: that lunch a little bit today, like we all kind

481
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Speaker 3: of have these reasons, whether politically, ideologically, whether just fear

482
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Speaker 3: of the world changing, you know, these reasons why we're

483
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Speaker 3: in the mess we're in. And the Gospel would say

484
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Speaker 3: we're in the mess we're in because of our separation

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Speaker 3: from God. Right, it would make it that all those

486
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Speaker 3: other things are symptoms of something, not a cause or

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Speaker 3: its origin, or we'll be idolizing something that we think

488
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Speaker 3: if we could just get these things to change. And

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Speaker 3: I want to be clear, like there's a difference between

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Speaker 3: changing the world right and changing the country or changing

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Speaker 3: your community or whatever in this very moment. So it's

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Speaker 3: obviously Keller's talking, I think on a grander scale, but

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Speaker 3: there is that belief like if we could just get

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Speaker 3: this right, and I see it with people. There are

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Speaker 3: people who are going to head into the election this

496
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Speaker 3: year and they're going to think, if we could just

497
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Speaker 3: get X thing voted one way or another, and I

498
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Speaker 3: don't care what side you're on or whatever, then it's

499
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Speaker 3: going to fix everything, yeah, and then when it doesn't,

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Speaker 3: they either become disillusioned to his point with the thing

501
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Speaker 3: they voted for that they got, or more likely they

502
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Speaker 3: just become demonizing of some other thing that stopped their

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Speaker 3: utopian idea from happening. Well, it would have gone this way,

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Speaker 3: but X blocked it or why blocked it? And if

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Speaker 3: we could just get rid of X and why then

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Speaker 3: And it's always like it's a never ending cycle. So

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Speaker 3: basically saying like the Gospel takes us out of both

508
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Speaker 3: of those things. I'm not trying to talk to the

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Speaker 3: church about that a lot. Acknowledging anything wrong in the

510
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Speaker 3: world or the way that we think about it will

511
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Speaker 3: get you accused in church world of being political. Even

512
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Speaker 3: if you never say the word politics, or if you say, guys,

513
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Speaker 3: this is not political, then people will think that's that's political.

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Speaker 1: But I always trying to say, like, you know, there

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Speaker 1: is no there is no.

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Speaker 3: Ideology on left or right that can encapsulate the full

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Speaker 3: life transformation of the Gospel, like we don't. We're not

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Speaker 3: on this plane between left and right, like we're like

519
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Speaker 3: the Gospel is above that plane and it should be

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Speaker 3: looking down on it. Do you ever find like something

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Speaker 3: in your whether it is in your politics or in

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Speaker 3: your ideology of the of the way the world works,

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Speaker 3: that you say, okay, yeah, this gets it. This aligns

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Speaker 3: completely with the Gospel. Like you're not going to find

525
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Speaker 3: a kingdom that aligns with God's Kingdom all the way.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't exist because God's Kingdom won't play second fiddle

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Speaker 3: to any other kingdom. He just won't. In the end,

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Speaker 3: God's Kingdom will reign and everything else we're trying to do.

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Speaker 3: We can be people from God's Kingdom in God's Kingdom

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Speaker 3: trying to affect our communities or our our civic processes,

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Speaker 3: our social processes, and that's all good. We're supposed to

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Speaker 3: show up differently as people, but we can't institute the

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Speaker 3: Kingdom of God on earth as it is in Heaven

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Speaker 3: without God himself as King on earth as it is

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Speaker 3: in heaven. And it's just not time yet for that,

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Speaker 3: until He chooses for all that.

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Speaker 1: So, like I say, there's this middle ground.

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Speaker 3: So yes, effect and raise and change, But man, we're

539
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Speaker 3: either going to be you know, naive or disillusioned one

540
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Speaker 3: way or another when we seek after something from the

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Speaker 3: world that the world is not equipped to give. We're

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Speaker 3: expecting something from it, we're demanding something from it, we're

543
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Speaker 3: hoping something from it, and then's just constantly disappointing us

544
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Speaker 3: or constantly making us angry to go to the next stage.

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Speaker 3: And the answer is, don't expect something from the world

546
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Speaker 3: that only the Gospel can give, because it's not gonna

547
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Speaker 3: happen and come from it. So that's not like a

548
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Speaker 3: really long diet tribe with very little discussion from either

549
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Speaker 3: one of you.

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Speaker 1: And I appreciate that, except that you get a word

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Speaker 1: in edgewise. You may have thoughts.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, you may.

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Speaker 2: Not have disillusion dan and cynical.

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Speaker 3: Wait wait, yeah, that's that's the same.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm all of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it was good. I like, yeah, I'm a yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm a big killer guy too. It's interesting, uh, like

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Speaker 2: people trying to it's like his legacy has been under fire.

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Speaker 2: I noticed from like hardliners. It's always it's fascinating, you know,

560
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Speaker 2: as far as like the everybody gets everybody decides what's

561
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Speaker 2: woke and what's not woke now and I don't know,

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Speaker 2: I'm bothered by all that stuff. Man, this is a

563
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Speaker 2: faithful it seems like a very faithful person. Uh, I

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Speaker 2: don't know.

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Speaker 3: If you find your yeah, I had to be this way.

566
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Speaker 3: Maybe there's just me being defensive of tim Keller. But

567
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Speaker 3: if you find yourself called tim Keller woke like number one,

568
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Speaker 3: go read all his books first. Before you do that,

569
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Speaker 3: educate yourself. Why would I read the books woke pastor understand?

570
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Speaker 3: Understand what he said? And poison Number two, define woke

571
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Speaker 3: on paper for yourself. Come up with a definition, functional definition.

572
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Speaker 3: See if you can do it. You know what I'm saying,

573
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Speaker 3: like for real, If you can do it, and then

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Speaker 3: what I always say with anything like this is number three.

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Speaker 3: Decide which scriptures that he talked about ad nauseum that

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Speaker 3: you disagree with. I mean, because if the man's making

577
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Speaker 3: a scriptural argument, then you have to either be upset

578
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Speaker 3: with him or you have to be upset with the Bible.

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Speaker 1: Pick you know what I'm saying. But if what he's.

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Speaker 3: Saying is what the Bible says, then it's not really

581
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Speaker 3: tim Keller. You're mad at you know what I'm saying,

582
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Speaker 3: and that's hard for all of us. The Bible should

583
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Speaker 3: offend you, it causes you to change. So take the

584
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Speaker 3: opportunity from the offense to see if us the Bible

585
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Speaker 3: really says and move forward with it. So anyway, I

586
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Speaker 3: know you wanted more from me on that, So I

587
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Speaker 3: appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, a lot.

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Speaker 2: One thing I wanted to do before I do my segments, John,

590
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Speaker 2: is we don't have a chance to have to talk

591
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Speaker 2: about Ali's new project. Can you want to talk about

592
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Speaker 2: it a little bit?

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Speaker 4: An you want to talk about it.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about that.

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Speaker 4: Let's do it.

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Speaker 2: Because Ali has like really like cut her teeth in

597
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Speaker 2: this documentary world, which is so cool to watch her

598
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Speaker 2: get into this and great storytelling. And so tell me

599
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Speaker 2: about the project, how it filmed, your lap all that stuff.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So I've mentioned before I'm a director, producer. I've

601
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Speaker 4: been able to produce different projects nationally internationally. I've worked

602
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Speaker 4: on some commercial things. I've done all that, but I

603
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Speaker 4: really love docs and that's what Lisa and my company

604
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Speaker 4: is focused on. Holl Intel Productions. And the way it

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Speaker 4: came about actually which I will tell what it is

606
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Speaker 4: actually is, but I'm just teeing it up. The way

607
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Speaker 4: it came about is Lisa's connected pretty well into the

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Speaker 4: Secret Service, a lot of former agents and everything because

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Speaker 4: of obviously mister Hill and everything that all the projects

610
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Speaker 4: she's worked on and from that, one of the agents

611
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Speaker 4: named Barbara Riggs that rode on horseback with President Reagan

612
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Speaker 4: because he had to have agents that could ride, which

613
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Speaker 4: would that was a whole new thing for the agency.

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Speaker 4: So she spent a lot of time with President Reagan

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Speaker 4: at his ranch and in DC and everywhere, and she

616
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Speaker 4: does these talks all around about her time with Reagan

617
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Speaker 4: and his love of horses and how the West really

618
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Speaker 4: influenced his character. And so through a long series of events,

619
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Speaker 4: we decided that'd be a great dog. So we produced

620
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Speaker 4: with her as an executive producer and Lisa and Not

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Speaker 4: co directed the documentary called The Cowboy President about Rond

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Speaker 4: Reagan's character and how, you know, like I said, the

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Speaker 4: West and his love of horses and love of the

624
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Speaker 4: land really influenced him as a person. It's not political,

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Speaker 4: it's literally a character, you know, study of him. Yeah,

626
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Speaker 4: and we got to speak to a lot of people.

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Speaker 4: His son, Michael Reagan was we interviewed him before he

628
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Speaker 4: passed away, and a lot of agents that rode within

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Speaker 4: and yeah, it's we're really proud of it. It's it's

630
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Speaker 4: been an amazing project to work on and had some

631
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Speaker 4: amazing collaborators and we're almost done with post production now

632
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Speaker 4: we've had a full original score written, so we're working

633
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Speaker 4: with the composer on all of that and that's neat.

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Speaker 4: It's exciting.

635
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Speaker 3: So it's very exciting.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been really really fun. We got to spend

637
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Speaker 4: some time at Ranchard Elcielo, his beloved ranch, which that

638
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Speaker 4: was great. Yeah. Where is that at California, California Standard

639
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Speaker 4: bar area.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's really cool.

641
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's fascinating.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've talked about Reagan many times on the show

643
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Speaker 2: because he always winds up in This Week in History

644
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Speaker 2: sometimes because of like some quip he said, or I mean,

645
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Speaker 2: it's remarkable how funny he was, how personable he was,

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Speaker 2: and yeah, it's fascinating like those those those those times.

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Speaker 2: I remember one one time he was on and I

648
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Speaker 2: was remembering when he ran for a re election and

649
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Speaker 2: people were saying, is he too old? Which is almost

650
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Speaker 2: hilarious now because he was in his early seventies, but

651
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Speaker 2: people were sayingsy too old and blah blah blah. And

652
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Speaker 2: he said in one of the debates and he said,

653
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Speaker 2: I know that age has been become a big factor

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Speaker 2: in my reelection, but I want to let my opponent

655
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Speaker 2: know that I will not hold his lack of experience

656
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Speaker 2: against him. And it was such a funny line that

657
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Speaker 2: it made Mondale.

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Speaker 1: Laugh in the film.

659
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 2: I mean, it was such a great line that it

660
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 2: killed all of that went away, like that's how much.

661
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 3: Then he picked up his drink by the way and

662
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 3: took his sip afterwards because he knew he was like check.

663
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 2: Man, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's game. So but I

664
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 2: mean when it makes the guy who was probably spearheading

665
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 2: that thing and he goes, I gotta give it up.

666
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: You got me as it's like a great roast joke.

667
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 2: You're like, all right, that's really offense. That's funny, that's

668
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 2: really funny.

669
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: It's good.

670
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 4: You got me so good. And so it's been really

671
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 4: interesting to learn about him. And I love studying all

672
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 4: different leaders, whether it be Republican, Democrat, you know, it

673
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 4: doesn't matter. I find it so fascinating to like dive

674
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 4: into people's characters and what makes them who they are.

675
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 4: And it was really resounding from the interviewees and the

676
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 4: people that spent time with him that no matter what

677
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 4: their own personal politics no matter what. Like he was

678
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 4: a good man and and they all loved him. And

679
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 4: I think it's really really turned out beautifully, so that's cool.

680
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 2: I can't wait. I can't wait to see it. Do

681
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 2: we have any idea of like timeline on it or anything.

682
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 4: Well, again, we're almost done with post, so you know,

683
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 4: find a home for it. It's the next step.

684
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: And stay tuned somewhere.

685
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 4: If you want to follow the progress, you can follow

686
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 4: me on Instagram at Alison A L Y s O

687
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 4: N L. Holland Alison. I'll have updates there.

688
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, that you don't know, that's what you're here.

689
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 2: You can get on there and do it. Let's drop

690
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 2: up the show with my segments. John first of his

691
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 2: old jokes. We call it joke about that, John, did

692
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 2: you know that fifty percent of married people say that

693
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: they are unhappily married? This is according to a poll

694
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 2: I took earlier today at my house.

695
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: I always got a spit take. She'd take a big drink.

696
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 2: I was hoping. I call that a mondale. Call that

697
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 2: pull On a Monday, John, a man walks into a

698
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 2: bank with a fifty dollars bill. I can't decide what

699
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 2: the savest thing to do with this money is, says

700
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 2: the man. Put in the bank, says the tailler. What

701
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,239
Speaker 2: if there's a recession, says the man. If the bank fails, Uh,

702
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 2: the bank administration guarantees your money back, says the tailler.

703
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 2: What if the administration fails. If the administration fails, the

704
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 2: state treasury guarantees your money back. What if the state

705
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 2: treasury goes bust? Well, if the state treasury fails, federal

706
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 2: Treasury guarantees your money back. What if the federal treasury

707
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 2: goes bust, Well, then the US government will guarantee you

708
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 2: your money back. What if the US government goes bust?

709
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 2: Says the man exasperated. Are you telling me you wouldn't

710
00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 2: pay fifty bucks for that? Says the clerk.

711
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: Hey, am I right?

712
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 2: Government this guy?

713
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: John?

714
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,719
Speaker 2: Finally, what is the difference between a filthy greyhound terminal

715
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 2: and a lobster with plastic surgery?

716
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 3: Man?

717
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 2: One is a krusty bus station and the other is

718
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 2: a busty crustacean. Yes, this thing.

719
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 3: That's I like a good wordplay, like resal.

720
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 2: I like that, John, Let's do this week in History.

721
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: To wrap up the show, we call it. Talk about

722
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 2: then John. This week two thousand and six, a hot

723
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 2: dog measuring one hundred and ninety seven feet broke the

724
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 2: record for the world's longest hot dog and had a

725
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 2: bun measuring one hundred and nine eight feet, which is

726
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 2: a bummer. You're gonna make one hundred ninety seven foot

727
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 2: hot dog and you're still gonna make the bun a

728
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 2: little bit too long? What are we doing? That's what

729
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 2: that's the part of it that I will get. Hey,

730
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 2: everybody get a piece. I'll be like I got all bun.

731
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 3: Over here, got the six inches of bun on this end.

732
00:33:58,400 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: Get out of here.

733
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 2: It was made by the Shizuoka Chizuoka Meat Producers of Chizuoka,

734
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 2: Japan and the All Japan Bread Association, a rare partnership

735
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 2: between the two. This this record was broken five years

736
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 2: later in twenty eleven by hot dog measuring wait for it,

737
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 2: six hundred and sixty nine feet. They destroyed the record,

738
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,959
Speaker 2: over three times the length and weighing approximately two hundred

739
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 2: and sixty pounds.

740
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's the what's the how do you craft hot

741
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 3: The breadth of this hot dog? Is it a normal

742
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 3: like it's probably cylindrical size, I'd say it's.

743
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 2: A little it's probably a little bigger. It's probably a

744
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:38,760
Speaker 2: big log.

745
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: I mean, but like the log size the telephone something

746
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: Fetus is like, that's true. The links of like a

747
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: cruise shop.

748
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 4: I wish they could pull them the photo.

749
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: There wasn't a little photo.

750
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 2: But I couldn't tell from the photo because it could

751
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 2: be zoomed in. But I couldn't tell if it was

752
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 2: just like a little narrow hot dog that's just really long,

753
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 2: or feel like, how do you make it like that

754
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 2: long with that breaking? I don't know how they're doing this.

755
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 2: The casing is probably important. I bet it was pretty unedible.

756
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 2: Like I dot, it was like a most delicious hot

757
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 2: dog you've ever had. It's probably just a gimmick, right,

758
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 2: it's a stunt.

759
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it's for the world record.

760
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying is like some few of these

761
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 2: world records and you go, but yeah, show it to me,

762
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 2: and they go, oh no, you can't.

763
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: They just can't eat it.

764
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 2: It's like those cakes that aren't cake. They go, it's

765
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 2: a suitcase, but it's a cake, but the cake's not good.

766
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 2: Nobody goes, this is the most delicious case. It's all

767
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:27,720
Speaker 2: like the top of it's all fondant. Yeah, all right, guys,

768
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 2: we get it, We get it. I don't know how

769
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 2: to say fund it. Sorry on cake. For all we

770
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 2: know insecurity is is French. I'm telling you what John

771
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 2: speaking of witch in no way whatsoever.

772
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: Uh.

773
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 2: This week nineteen oh one, Louis Armstrong was born, had

774
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 2: New Orleans tie.

775
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 4: So that's a little I love.

776
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: Him all that, Oh John, almost good?

777
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 2: That wasn't bad? That was a little. Yeah. He was

778
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 2: Theerica American Hall of Fame jazz musician known as Satchmo.

779
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 2: Did you know that the nickname was Satue? I've heard

780
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 2: do you know why he was Satchmo?

781
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: Come on, wait for it and see it's pretty once.

782
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 2: I say, you're gonna get it. Do you know, allie

783
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 2: man satchel mouth because he had the big cheeks. They

784
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 2: said he could fit like billiard balls in his mouth. Wow.

785
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 2: And that's part of what gave him that, because he

786
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 2: could really hold a note forever. Yeah, Satchmo satchul Mouth.

787
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: Uh interest. Yeah.

788
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 2: He is considered the first and greatest solo jazz musician.

789
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 2: Armstrong wore the Star of David his entire adult life

790
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 2: to honor the Jewish family who took him in at

791
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 2: the age of seven and lent him the money to

792
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 2: buy his first cornet cornett corn It trumpets a cornet.

793
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: Cornet fund.

794
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna go home, John this week. Jesse Wilford

795
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 2: Reno was born in eighteen sixty one. He was an

796
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 2: American invenor. He patented the first working escalator. I love

797
00:36:55,600 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 2: that it's working escalator. Before this is stairs, buddy, we

798
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 2: can't just fired up. Eighteen ninety two was the first

799
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 2: which I would have. I'm trying to what would you

800
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 2: have thought if I'd said first working escalator you fought

801
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 2: eighteen hundreds? Late eighteen hundreds, Yeah, I out of thought

802
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 2: later early. The idea for his inclined elevator is what

803
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 2: he called. It was originally part of his proposal to

804
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 2: build an underground New York City subway. The subway proposal

805
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 2: was rejected, but the inclined elevator caught on. It included

806
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 2: a rubber coated moving handrail, same design as today, and

807
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 2: a calm of protect projected fingers on the ends to

808
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 2: help prevent feet from getting caught in the mechanism. Again,

809
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 2: that's the same exact design that we have today, and

810
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 2: no one's ever been caught at an escalator, no one's

811
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,479
Speaker 2: ever been hurt. The first one was demonstrated at Coney Island,

812
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 2: New York, transported some seventy five thousand people during its

813
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 2: two weeks stay there. It was then moved to the

814
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 2: Manhattan entrance of the Brooklyn Bridge. So he just they

815
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 2: roll it a big set of stairs. I guess, like

816
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 2: those stairs they put up against planes. Maybe seventy five

817
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 2: thousand people were moved. Do you walk on the people

818
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 2: movers in the airport, I think it's a waste. Only see.

819
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 2: I only do it if I can see that no

820
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 2: one is standing still ahead of me. If I see

821
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 2: people standing still on them, riding it like it's a ride,

822
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 2: I go way.

823
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 4: Yeah.

824
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 2: Are you crazy?

825
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 4: Yeah?

826
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: It looks like they're on a conveyor belt in a

827
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: factory that makes lazy people.

828
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 2: That's what I always saying.

829
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 4: I have debated many a colleague in the airport about

830
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 4: those things.

831
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 2: If nothing, if you've got a free run and you

832
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 2: can just like go robot mode, you can robot it

833
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,240
Speaker 2: mo just purt yes, but there's always somebody standing still

834
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 2: that holds up your progress and won't won't that that

835
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 2: gets back to the dystopian world that you've painted that

836
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 2: Tim Keller said we shouldn't have. But I'm just saying

837
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 2: a lot of people are moving slow and I don't

838
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 2: like it.

839
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 4: Crazy side note, I'm actually terrified of escalators, I know,

840
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 4: but I'm going to obviously get on them all the time.

841
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 4: And I normally have gear and all kinds of stuff,

842
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 4: and I don't know, shout out to my mom. She

843
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 4: scared me then when I was little, and she didn't

844
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 4: mean to, but she was like, hey, you know, I

845
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 4: always have your shoelaces, you know, yeah, tuggs or whatever.

846
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 4: I don't know if she'd read a story about some

847
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 4: kid getting her shoelace. I don't even remember. I just

848
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 4: know from that point on, every time I step on,

849
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 4: no matter what, I hesitate a little bit before I

850
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 4: actually get on.

851
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 3: We had a bad We're coming on from one of

852
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 3: our trips, and Sadie was her first time putting a

853
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 3: suitcase on one and she didn't think in time because

854
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 3: she's already a little nervous to get on right and

855
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 3: to turn it, you know, and the suitcase went tumbling down.

856
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 3: I think it hit Laura and it was like a

857
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 3: whole thing, and Sadie was so like, you know, but

858
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 3: she does. She's like a champ now. But I like

859
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 3: suitcase escalators for kids or.

860
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 4: No, it's a lot of thing, you know, And so

861
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 4: I always just a little hesitate, like I'm like, oh,

862
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:37,760
Speaker 4: I don't want to miss the step.

863
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 2: Just to hurry.

864
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 3: Uh.

865
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 2: Stresses out every time we go to the airport because

866
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 2: we'll have four suitcases, two each, and I'll have my

867
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 2: guitar in my backpack on my shoulders. I got two,

868
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 2: she's got two, and she's got her bag on one

869
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 2: of the suitcases. And then I don't like waiting for

870
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 2: the elevators, so we just go escalator all the way.

871
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 2: But you have to like line up your slots and

872
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 2: if you get a little loft yep. And every time

873
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 2: she freaks out and I'll look at I'll look back

874
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 2: at her like you did it, you got it, because

875
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 2: sometimes not so much.

876
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 3: Sometimes there's hanging off and you're holding on to their problems.

877
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Speaker 2: And she's struggling with it. And then I feel like

878
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 2: a heel because I'm dragging this woman through the airport

879
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 2: with all our merch, because we carry like two hundred

880
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 2: pounds of merge on the road with us because I

881
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 2: won't ship it because I'm cheap.

882
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Speaker 3: Yeah, how much is it?

883
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 2: It flies free? It flies free on the Southwest.

884
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,919
Speaker 1: Shout out to the Southwest, not because you're a list,

885
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Speaker 1: only because I'm because.

886
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Speaker 3: Now they're charging this. They actually paid my first bag

887
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 3: charge of Southwest a few weeks ago when I was

888
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Speaker 3: just like, you know what, Yeah, this is.

889
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Speaker 1: Not the same way. You know what Keller's wrong. The

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00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: world really has.

891
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 3: Turned on it Southwest. Yeah, I take it all back now.

892
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 2: Well now they'll never be a sponsor, but I love

893
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 2: you Southwest campaigning for the wind. Now.

894
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: Remember when alist preferred was cool though, because you got

895
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: free WiFi.

896
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 2: Now they give a free wife out everybody. But what

897
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 2: do we do?

898
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: It is mobile, not hopefully not sponsor. We're just like

899
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: burning bridges to this, taking it down.

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00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 2: That's it for me. John. I'm glad that you jumped

901
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 2: aboard our escalator today.

902
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 4: With no hesitation, with.

903
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 2: No hesitation, even not knowing if it was gonna work

904
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,240
Speaker 2: or be one of those prepatent models.

905
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like that we You know, the great

906
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: Mitch Hedberg.

907
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 2: Joke about escalators, right, is that an escalator can never

908
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 2: be out of order. It can only be temporarily stairs. Yeah, yeah,

909
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 2: he said he saw sign this escalator out of order.

910
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 3: I saw some motivational thing.

911
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 2: I was like, sorry, sorry for the convenience. That's what.

912
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: That's escalator temporarily stairs, Sorry for the convenience.

913
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 3: There was some motivational thing or the day. It was

914
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 3: like somebody stuck on an escalator. They think they have

915
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 3: to wait for it to come back on, you know

916
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.

917
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I've seen a video of that where they

918
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 2: just they just stop ask people on it and they

919
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 2: just look around, like what.

920
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: Do we do now?

921
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 3: You're like, but it was like, hey, man, that's where

922
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 3: you are in life, Like you feel like it's all stopped.

923
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 3: You know, you can still keep moving. It's just different

924
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 3: than it was before. So guys, I'm like, we're just

925
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 3: inspired inspired they are, We're just yeah.

926
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 2: But the broken escalator, the John Driver's store.

927
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 3: Hey, jeez, listen, I will say it's I told somebody

928
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 3: today it was like again the last book, the one

929
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 3: I'm writing now. I think we said this before, but

930
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 3: literally every publisher I know in the country, Christian otherwise

931
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 3: turned it down, including the one I have, and they

932
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 3: called back like you just never do do?

933
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 2: You just never know? Sometimes?

934
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 3: You know, my dad would say his favorite proverb and

935
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 3: he read the Living Bible, which was like the original

936
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 3: paraphrase okay, so not new living which is a translation,

937
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 3: but original paraphrase before the message or the passionary of

938
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 3: those things, and it was, you need to plant all

939
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 3: of your seeds because who knows, maybe they'll all grow,

940
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 3: and so the idea, So I maybe live a little

941
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 3: too obsessively doing that sometimes of I'm going to go

942
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 3: get every opportunity I can, and I don't expect them

943
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 3: all to grow. Like if you stop expecting everything to

944
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 3: work out, then you really do failures not failures becomes

945
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 3: like oh that's what happens, I feel most of the time.

946
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 3: But if I planted twenty seven things and two of

947
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 3: them grow, that's great, you know what I'm saying, Like

948
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 3: I'm not a very good gardener. Should be clear. This

949
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 3: has got a yeah, yeah, you don't want to come

950
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 3: eat a green thumb over there in the garden, but yeah, hey,

951
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 3: so tell us again where they can be following you

952
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 3: so they could be watching for when the movie comes out.

953
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:25,439
Speaker 4: Follow me at Allison L. Holland on Instagram is probably

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Speaker 4: the best place.

955
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Speaker 3: It's a l y. Everybody s O N L.

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Speaker 1: Holland that's it.

957
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll pop up.

958
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of l's in your name.

959
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: Yes, there's four els.

960
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 4: When I married to Holland, it came a lot of else.

961
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you took a lot of l's that day.

962
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Speaker 1: Take that, Mondale.

963
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 3: I apologize.

964
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry my constituents had to see me that way,

965
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Speaker 1: which reminds me. You should check out Johnny W dot com,

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Speaker 1: Jay I E w dot.

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Speaker 2: Com weird spelling, many many, many new dates coming up,

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Speaker 2: and not to mention the big one. August twenty ninth,

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Speaker 2: we're shooting a new special in my hometown of Knoxville,

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Speaker 2: Tennessee at the BJU. There's still tickets available for the

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Speaker 2: three pm show. You can get those at JOHNNYW dot com.

972
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Speaker 2: At least come, We want you there. We want to

973
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Speaker 2: hear your weird laugh on tape. Yeah yeah, yeah, gett

974
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Speaker 2: captured on Yeah. Exciting, exciting stuff happening there.

975
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Speaker 3: I don't have anything to promote. I'm writing a bunch

976
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Speaker 3: of stuff, but nothing I can really talk about yet.

977
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Speaker 1: So it's very secret.

978
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 4: Where can they follow you? You can talk about it.

979
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Speaker 3: Just keep listening to the podcast and make me happy.

980
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Speaker 2: So that John L.

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Speaker 3: John L.

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Speaker 1: Halland w Driver.

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Speaker 3: No, Yeah, exciting stuff. You know, you could always go Hey,

984
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Speaker 3: you can go to the church at Pleasant Grove dot

985
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Speaker 3: com and you can hear I'm in a series this

986
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 3: week on Wonder.

987
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 2: So I'm doing week two of Wonder and you can

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Speaker 2: find more of these archived episodes that talk about that

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Speaker 2: podcast dot com.

990
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Speaker 3: Lots of stuff is there. You can become a patron,

991
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Speaker 3: you can join us on the journeys, send us four

992
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Speaker 3: underd and a lot. It's been a lot.

993
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Speaker 1: You realize that the day ten years, it's over time.

994
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

995
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 3: It wasn't always like every week for time. After the

996
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 3: first year, pretty much after the first or second year,

997
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 3: we really got consistent and we know how to do something.

998
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Speaker 2: To the point we know how to make our legs work.

999
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,240
Speaker 2: When the escalator breaks down, I'll tell you that people.

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Speaker 3: That's right, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Well, guys, thanks for the time you gave us today.

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Speaker 1: It was a lot of fun. Alison, thank you so

1003
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Speaker 1: much for joining me. Yeah, we'll see you guys all

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Speaker 1: next week here

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Speaker 3: On I talk about that