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Speaker 1: My name is Charlie Kirk. I run the largest pro

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Speaker 1: American student organization in the country, fighting for the future

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Speaker 1: of our republic. My call is to fight evil and

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Speaker 1: to proclaim truth. If the most important thing for you

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Speaker 1: is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable.

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Speaker 2: But if the most.

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Speaker 1: Important thing is doing good, you'll end up purposeful. College

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Speaker 1: is a scam, everybody. You got to stop sending your

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Speaker 1: kids to college. You should get married as young as

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Speaker 1: possible and have as many kids as possible. Go start

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Speaker 1: at turning point, you would say, college chapter. Go start

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Speaker 1: at turning point, you say high school chapter. Go find

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Speaker 1: out how your church can get involved. Sign up and

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Speaker 1: become an activist. I gave my life to the Lord

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Speaker 1: in fifth grade, most important decision I ever made in

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Speaker 1: my life, and I encourage you to do the same.

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Speaker 1: Here I am.

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Speaker 2: Lord, Use me.

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Speaker 1: Buckle up, everybody, Here we go. The Charlie Kirk Show

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Speaker 1: is proudly sponsored by Preserved Gold, leading gold and silver

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Speaker 1: my family, friends and viewers.

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Speaker 2: All right, without further ado, we are going to welcome

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Speaker 2: up one of my favorite people, one of Charlie's favorite people.

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Speaker 2: She really she needs no introduction. Ali, Beth Stuckey, Hey, y'all. Hi,

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Speaker 2: and Mikey McCoy by.

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Speaker 3: The way, Hello, how are you doing, Mikey McCoy?

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Speaker 2: This is my first This is actually my first one

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Speaker 2: with Mikey. You've done some other ones with Yeah, this

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Speaker 4: I know, I really missed you.

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Speaker 2: We're so glad to have you.

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Speaker 1: You.

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Speaker 2: You are a crowd favorite, You have a huge platform,

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Speaker 2: and you are a wonderful Christian model of I would

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Speaker 2: say integrity of courage. How you've had a courageous last

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Speaker 2: couple months, I would say your whole career certainly, But

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Speaker 2: you have been a voice of truth, reason, facts, and

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Speaker 2: you've taken the slings and arrows. So whatever in that

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Speaker 2: You've been a model of courage though for.

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Speaker 3: So many Well, thanks, And courage is contagious, and courage

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Speaker 3: I know that I felt like that. But even like

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Speaker 3: There's been a lot of noise, a lot of disagreement,

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Speaker 3: and it can feel very demoralizing, like is the revival

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Speaker 2: And I've said before that what God is unleashed, man

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my initial reaction. So I got a text from

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Speaker 2: Everyone has a perspective shaped by what they've lived, what

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Speaker 2: That's what's really special about TikTok. Even the quiet voices

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Speaker 2: Well. And you know, it's funny because a lot of

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Speaker 3: then I am probably being cowardly, which is why I

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Speaker 3: ended up trying to speak up about that. So I

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Speaker 3: guess it's my case trying.

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Speaker 2: I think you succeeded in speaking well.

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Speaker 3: I you know, I said what I said, and I totally.

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Speaker 2: Stand by it.

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Speaker 3: I totally stand by it. And yeah, yeah, in nuindo

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Speaker 3: is non investigation, and that's where I stand.

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Speaker 2: I mean I should have I shouldn't have interrupted you.

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Speaker 2: In nuendo is not investigation. Yeah, And I think it's

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Speaker 2: an instance where, you know, I said this to somebody

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Speaker 2: just moments ago that what I actually think is happening

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Speaker 2: in the movement is two parallel tracks. I think there's

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Speaker 2: an idea, a lot ideological debate that's unfolding. But I

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Speaker 2: also think it's you know, you have to understand how

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Speaker 2: we got to this moment where we had media that

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Speaker 2: legacy box, right, you know, we had CNN, ABC, NBCCBS

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Speaker 2: and then eventually Fox and that was kind of it, right,

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Speaker 2: and then it exploded out of that. We have independent creators.

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Speaker 2: We have independent minded YouTubers and streamers and podcasters, and

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Speaker 2: they are getting a bigger and bigger, bigger chunk of

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Speaker 2: the pie. But it's sort of the wild West. Still,

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Speaker 2: there's no established rules, right, Washington Post has to publish

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Speaker 2: its editorial controls and the standards and ethics that it's

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Speaker 2: going to well, you know it's going to abide by right,

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Speaker 2: and same with New York Times, same with Fox News.

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Speaker 2: In the world of online content creation, there are no

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Speaker 2: standards or ethics, and you've seen sort of the platforms

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Speaker 2: try and impose those. There was a massive backlash against censorship.

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Speaker 2: It's hate speech, whatever that is. And so what you're

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Speaker 2: actually having is this debate is raging because there's not

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Speaker 2: an agreement about how to responsibly create content online, especially

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Speaker 2: when you when your platforms become huge, right, And there's

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Speaker 2: certain people that think you need to apply certain standards

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Speaker 2: and ethics to facts an innuendo, and there's certain people

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Speaker 2: that think, well, we're you know, it's all kind of

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Speaker 2: free game. So that I think is actually the thing

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Speaker 2: that needs to settle. That is the sifting that is

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Speaker 2: also happening underneath what you think is this debate against

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Speaker 2: he said she said, or I'm friends with this person,

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Speaker 2: so I'm not going it's actually deeper than that, and

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Speaker 2: it's a more structural problem in my opinion. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if you agree with that or.

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Speaker 3: Not, but yeah, I think those are really good points.

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Speaker 3: I think the issue that we have on the left

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Speaker 3: and the right and now the right, is that our

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Speaker 3: disagreements have become very fundamental. We're asking questions like what

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Speaker 3: as an American, which I think is a really good

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Speaker 3: thing to debate. We have to define our terms, but

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Speaker 3: we're also debating like what is truth? What is truth?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 3: How do we seek truth? What counts is truth? And

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Speaker 3: it looks like we've got different definitions, not only on

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Speaker 3: the right and the left, but even within what is

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Speaker 3: considered the right. And I do think the only way

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Speaker 3: is to hammer that out and hash that out. But

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Speaker 3: it'll be interesting to see how that shapes up.

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Speaker 2: Do you want to do some cuman it or do

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Speaker 2: you have a question?

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Speaker 4: No? No, no, you guys you said it great.

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Speaker 5: I would just also add, I mean under the Biden

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Speaker 5: administration we kind of unified under you know, if you

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Speaker 5: would trip, you know, we would all go on social

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Speaker 5: media and talk about it at length. But I think

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Speaker 5: now we've kind of been broken into like three factions.

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Speaker 5: Is you have the administration who's really focused on just

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Speaker 5: everything they're doing in the government foreign policy and everybody

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Speaker 5: who's really hyper analyzing that. And then you have the

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Speaker 5: greater populist movement on the right who's still debating these ideas.

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Speaker 5: And then you have to also remember that the audience

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Speaker 5: who likes to ask questions is these are people like

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Speaker 5: even me, you know, who came out of California during

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Speaker 5: you know, the COVID lockdowns and my dad was going

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Speaker 5: to be arrested for opening his church. These people I've

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Speaker 5: been lied to about the election, They've been lied to

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Speaker 5: about COVID, and so they are looking for somebody to

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Speaker 5: ask questions about everything.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and so there's an audience for that as well.

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Speaker 4: So there's we're all separated right now.

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Speaker 5: Because we're all separated, there's tons of infighting because we

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Speaker 5: don't have a unified enemy right now, and so right

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Speaker 5: now we're just kind of focusing on fighting each other

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Speaker 5: instead of focusing on a unified enemy.

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Speaker 2: Yep, governing's hard. Yeah, clap for that. I totally agree. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: very wise, the you know, the hope is that when

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Speaker 2: we get to twenty twenty six, and especially in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty eight. A lot of these the infighting. Hopefully we'll

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Speaker 2: you know, fade away because you know we're going to

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Speaker 2: be having to defeat AOC nominee or Jazzmine Crockett.

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Speaker 3: Or Yeah, that content that will come, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean it's going to be that will be a crystallizing

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Speaker 2: moment for everybody, very clarifying moment for everybody. Let's do

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Speaker 2: some and for ali. Emma's got the mic.

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Speaker 3: Hi.

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Speaker 7: My name is Amanda. I have listened to Rush since

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Speaker 7: I was in the womb, and I once rushed past

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Speaker 7: I didn't have a home, found the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 7: So thank you guys for continuing. I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 7: My question, I'm a nurse and a mom and I'm

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Speaker 7: just sitting here watching you guys, and I worry about

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Speaker 7: you guys as people. How can I be praying for

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Speaker 7: you all?

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Speaker 3: That's very sweet. Well, thank you so much, and just

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Speaker 3: thank you for being a light in a dark world.

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Speaker 3: The medical system, unfortunately, you know, isn't always the brightest place,

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Speaker 3: so thank you for doing what you do.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 3: You know, I can't speak for everyone, but pray, yes,

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Speaker 3: of course, for protection and things like that. We're always

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Speaker 3: praying for that, but also just pray for courage to

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Speaker 3: do the next right thing. That's all any of us

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Speaker 3: are ever trying to do. You do the next right

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Speaker 3: thing in faith, with excellence and for the glory of God.

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Speaker 3: That's the model that I try to live by. And

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Speaker 3: sometimes that takes courage. There's not a lot of courage

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Speaker 3: and being complacent and going with the flow. But all

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Speaker 3: of us in this droom have decided that going with

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Speaker 3: the flow got us to a really bad place, and

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Speaker 3: swimming upstream can be hard. So pray for courage, not

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Speaker 3: only for us, but for people like you too, because

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Speaker 3: we have a job to say the things that we

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Speaker 3: say and do the things that we do that are

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Speaker 3: considered controversial. You could lose your job for doing that.

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Speaker 3: So really my respect goes to you for the sacrifices

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Speaker 3: you make for the truth. So thank you.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Wow, how you guys doing.

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Speaker 3: Hi.

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Speaker 6: My name's E and I'm from North Idaho, and I

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Speaker 6: just want you to kind of elaborate more on how

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Speaker 6: we don't have a common enemy when Charlie Kirk was

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Speaker 6: shot by a leftist trans loving person, Like, how is

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Speaker 6: that not a common enemy right now? When they literally

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Speaker 6: shot him for talking.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't say that.

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Speaker 6: We don't have I know, I'm saying, how can we

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Speaker 6: elaborate on that? Like how we don't have a common enemy,

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Speaker 6: I guess is what I was.

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Speaker 3: Hoping to find on Oh, are you saying that some

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Speaker 3: people are asserting that or you believe that we don't.

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Speaker 4: Have a comment.

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Speaker 6: I believe we have a common enemy.

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Speaker 3: And it's like, yes, I agree, I actually.

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Speaker 2: Think we are all saying we have a common enemy.

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Speaker 2: It's about how we're getting distracted by the things we

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Speaker 2: disagree about amongst the coalition on the right, the larger coalition,

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Speaker 2: and so it's not it just doesn't feel maybe as

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Speaker 2: prominent to some people because all I guess what, all

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Speaker 2: the clickbait, all the stuff people are clicking on and

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Speaker 2: posting about is like infighting. So it just doesn't it's

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Speaker 2: just not as prominent. But when when I think, when

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Speaker 2: the calendar of the election comes into more focus for people,

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Speaker 2: that will probably be a clarifying moment. It will refocus

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Speaker 2: people that are currently distracted. I'm not distracted. We're not distracted, guys, aren't. No, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: no no no. We're mission mission mission around here, like

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Speaker 2: we do we do our level best to stay focused

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Speaker 2: on the mission at hand, and that's midterms, midterms, midterms,

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Speaker 2: no transing our kids, mass migration.

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Speaker 3: Well, let me just encourage you just for a second,

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Speaker 3: because I know that the distractions in the division is demoralizing.

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Speaker 3: But I like to use this analogy. On the left,

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Speaker 3: when your goal is just destruction, you don't have to

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Speaker 3: agree on the tools that you use. Anyone can pick

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Speaker 3: up a hammer, a mallet, it doesn't matter. As long

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Speaker 3: as you're destroying. You can all do it. You don't

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Speaker 3: have to agree. But on the right, we're trying to

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Speaker 3: build something. And when you're trying to build something, you

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Speaker 3: have to agree on the foundation, the materials and the

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Speaker 3: tools you use, who's using it and when and where

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Speaker 3: that takes work. And sometimes it takes these clarifying moments

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Speaker 3: for us to say, hang on, who are we and

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Speaker 3: what are we doing? What is our common enemy? That's

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Speaker 3: the moment that we're in right now because we lost

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Speaker 3: our main coalition builder and the guy that was holding

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Speaker 3: it's come out, and so we're just having a redefining

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Speaker 3: moment so that we can win the midterms. And twenty

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Speaker 3: voice that we can get I appreciate so much that

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Speaker 3: one back there.

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Speaker 9: So I have a question because after Charlie crookud Die,

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Speaker 9: I feel one of two ways. A lot of us

653
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 9: wanted to speak out and a lot of us wanted

654
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Speaker 9: to hide. I'm caught in the middle where it's I

655
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 9: want to speak out, but there's also fear. So my

656
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Speaker 9: question for you is, how do you get rid of

657
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Speaker 9: that fear of wanting to speak out and like just

658
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Speaker 9: like push forward through it, because like I'm really I

659
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 9: really try to fight people pleasing, but I can find

660
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Speaker 9: myself in it where it's like not that I'll say

661
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 9: what people want to hear, but I'll just keep my

662
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 9: thoughts to myself because I'm just like, well that I

663
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 9: know that'll like piss them off basically, and so like

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Speaker 9: I'll try to like either put it out or just

665
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 9: like put it brush it under the rug. But I

666
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 9: really want to, Like with Charlie dying, like, yeah, it

667
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Speaker 9: was very encouraging for me because it was like he

668
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Speaker 9: did for my generation what a lot of people wouldn't

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Speaker 9: have done. Yea, And he put his life literally on

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Speaker 9: the line for our generation. And it's just encouraging that

671
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 9: like he did that for us, and so I want

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Speaker 9: to step up like he did. Yeah, and finally starts

673
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Speaker 9: speaking out about things. Especially it's scary because I live

674
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Speaker 9: in Illinois, so like it's very blue, and when you

675
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 9: speak out about politics, you're hated for it because Chicago

676
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Speaker 9: is not a safe place. I worked for public safety

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Speaker 9: on my campus. Yeah, and so I've heard what goes

678
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Speaker 9: on in the city and even in like on the news,

679
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Speaker 9: you just see all of the horror that is caused

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Speaker 9: by that, and so just kind of, yeah, what's your

681
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Speaker 9: advice for like pushing past them?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Would y'all say that Charlie got more courageous over

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00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 3: the last five years? Oh?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: And how would you say that he became more courageous.

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Speaker 5: I think part of it was getting married and then

687
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 5: also having kids. Yeah, yeah, and he realized that he

688
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Speaker 5: had something bigger.

689
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Speaker 4: To defend than just himself. Yeah, the future for his children.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't beat yourself up about struggling with fear

691
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 3: and people pleasing. That is part of being human, but

692
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Speaker 3: it is something to fight against. We don't want to

693
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Speaker 3: live in a world or lead a life in which

694
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Speaker 3: people are begging. God is small and people's opinion of

695
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 3: us loom large role. God's opinion is really a lot

696
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Speaker 3: smaller to us, and so it takes practice. That's the thing.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if Charlie would say the same thing,

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Speaker 3: But people ask me, are you nervous when you do

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00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 3: X y Z, Well, not as much anymore. And it's

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Speaker 3: not because of some like magic or anything, it's because

701
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Speaker 3: I practiced it. But you have to practice courage, and

702
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 3: that means taking a risk. That means saying the thing

703
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 3: even when you don't really know what to say and

704
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 3: it's not perfect. So courage takes practice. But courage is

705
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 3: also contagious. So when you step out and courage, other

706
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Speaker 3: people do too, and then it makes it less scary.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And by the way, the number one verse that

708
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Speaker 2: people have sent me, I don't know if I said

709
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:56,760
Speaker 2: this earlier, but it's worth saying.

710
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Speaker 3: Is just saying hi to the photographer.

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Speaker 2: Did you say make this? Verse two? Is uh Joshua

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Speaker 2: one nine. Yeah, be strong and courageous. And I have

713
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 2: literally hit my knees multiple times since Charlie died, and

714
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 2: just asking God to give me more courage and give

715
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Speaker 2: me more wisdom. So it's okay if it's hard, Yeah,

716
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Speaker 2: that's what courage is. It has to be. If it

717
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 2: wasn't hard, it wouldn't be courage. So yeah.

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Speaker 5: But also, in like a world that's evil and filled

719
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Speaker 5: with lies, If if the world's constantly agreeing with you

720
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 5: and affirming your behavior, that means you are living a

721
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 5: life of lies and darkness and evil because it's affirming

722
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 5: the actions that it desires, affirming the actions of the world.

723
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Speaker 4: That that it's in. So when you actually do.

724
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Speaker 5: What's right and are a bright light in the dark

725
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Speaker 5: world and actually bringing truth to lies, that's not a

726
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Speaker 5: very popular thing.

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Speaker 4: Well yeah, I mean, rejoice in your stuffy Charlie.

728
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Speaker 2: Charlie was a prophet and what do they do to profits? Yeah,

729
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Speaker 2: I mean that's that's a bitter pill to swallow. But

730
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Speaker 2: Charlie has a really big throne and really big mansion

731
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Speaker 2: in heaven right now. I gotta believe it. And and Charli,

732
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,959
Speaker 2: there's that clip where Charlie said, you know, he's called

733
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Speaker 2: to confront the lies with the truth and proclaim the truth,

734
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Speaker 2: and he wanted to be known for courage for his faith.

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Speaker 2: So Charlie's a guy that said yes to the Lord

736
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Speaker 2: and like went all the way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: Next question, Hi, So I read your book Toxic Empathy,

739
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Speaker 10: and one of the things I'm noticing is social work

740
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 10: as an organization is probably evil at this point where

741
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Speaker 10: they're all brainwashed. So I was a social work student

742
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Speaker 10: and I had asked Charlie, you know, for some advice,

743
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Speaker 10: and I heard many social work students ask him for

744
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 10: the same advice and he told me to you know,

745
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Speaker 10: stand up, you know, tell the truth.

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Speaker 2: And I did that and I was kicked out for it.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, and so my you know, we're fighting the trans

748
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Speaker 10: in the kids movement, we're fighting the universities, but I

749
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Speaker 10: don't see much of fighting the social work because they're

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Speaker 10: in their universities. They're the police departments, and they're by

751
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 10: themselves dcfs in Illinois, California. I know for sure if

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Speaker 10: you don't use your child's pronouns, they can take your

753
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Speaker 10: kids from you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: And I just don't hear that many people talking about

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Speaker 10: social work and how ingrained that this is. And so

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Speaker 10: I was wondering, you know, can you guys all give

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Speaker 10: it a platform and what we can do to fight

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Speaker 10: the organization.

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Speaker 3: Social workers, teachers, nurses, and therapists attract the best people

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Speaker 3: in the world and the worst people in the world.

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Speaker 3: And it is because it involves vulnerable people. And there

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Speaker 3: are two kinds of people that are attracted to the

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Speaker 3: vulnerable person, and that's the person that wants to help

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Speaker 3: them and the person that wants to hurt them. And

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Speaker 3: so that's what we see in those helping professions. And

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Speaker 3: it's not to say that all those progressives that go

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Speaker 3: into social work have bad intentions. They don't realize they're

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Speaker 3: being led to support the idea of a child being

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Speaker 3: born in the wrong body. But you're right, we do

771
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 3: need to speak up about that. And don't think that

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00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 3: your speaking up for the truth was for not just

773
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 3: because you got kicked out. You have no idea how

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00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 3: God used that courage. What seed do you planted who

775
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 3: heard you that initially hated you, But fifty years from now,

776
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 3: God could use that moment that cheer you're not even

777
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 3: thinking about anymore in someone else's life when they remembered

778
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 3: that person stood up for that and he was right.

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Speaker 3: God uses those seemingly unseen and unsung moments in eternity,

780
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Speaker 3: and you will only see when you get to the

781
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 3: other side of glory how that moment of courage where

782
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,720
Speaker 3: you felt like you were risking everything worked into someone

783
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 3: else's testimony. So don't look at the world's affirmation of

784
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 3: you as like a meter for your success, right because

785
00:38:55,080 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 3: obviously they crucified Jesus, they stoned see even and the

786
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 3: world is going to reject reject us, and that is

787
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 3: actually a sign that we're doing something right. Jesus said,

788
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Speaker 3: woe to you when all people speak well of you. Wow,

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great, We're all doing we're all doing great.

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Speaker 2: Then just remember that we got we got to wrap

791
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,720
Speaker 2: up Ali because she's got places to go and people

792
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 2: to see and great things to I'm going to do.

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Speaker 3: Prove me wrong.

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Speaker 2: You're going to love that. I can't wait, so everybody, Ali,

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Speaker 2: Beth Stucky.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much much.

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Speaker 8: can trust, go to Charliekirk dot com