1 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, and good night. Welcome 2 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: to this very special weekend edition of the Aaron Moulin Show. 3 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: I have, as always a very special guest for you today. 4 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 1: His name is Shabbos Kestenbaum, the man, funnily enough and 5 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: unplanned by us, who Candice Owens has decided to attack 6 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: this week timing huh, have a little listen to Candace 7 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: struggle and look, that's nothing new for her, but I 8 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: would argue it's a fairly simple name to pronounce. 9 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 2: But of course, of course she has an. 10 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 3: Issue a Preger University. The CEO who I was very 11 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 3: good friends with him, is close with is working on 12 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 3: a documentary with I think this guy's name is literally 13 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 3: Shabbas and not Shabbas something bomb. And I know I 14 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 3: sound like I'm being anismatic. B I swear it's like 15 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 3: Kestenbomb or something. I promise it's it's Shabbos. I am 16 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 3: being so real. Yes, Shabbos Shabos Shabosh Kestenbaum. And he's 17 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 3: going around telling everybody it's going to be a takedown 18 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 3: of Candice owns and that's what her new focus is 19 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 3: at Prager University, which is supposed to be about, like 20 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,559 Speaker 3: educating people about free markets. Guests not she's gone masked 21 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 3: down Ben Shapiro, who it's so irrelevant, doesn't even matter. 22 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 3: But there you could easily go. 23 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 2: And no. 24 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: Candace as someone who is well versed in the space 25 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: of name pronunciation and people being offended because of it. 26 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: No one would think you're anti Semitic because you can't 27 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: pronounce a name or you pretend not to be able to. 28 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: It's everything else that you do and have done. Now, 29 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: let's get into this conversation with a man who caught 30 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: my eye not just over the past same month or so, 31 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: because he did a debate where his answer surrounding the 32 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: relationship between Israel and America went viral. 33 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 4: Again. 34 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 5: I find it very bizarre that in a topic that 35 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 5: did not include the word Israel, the only country we 36 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 5: actually discussed was Israel. I actually believe that we should 37 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 5: end all foreign aid. But that includes all foreign aid, 38 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 5: not only one obsessive country you mentioned Pharaoh. 39 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 4: Let's talk about Farah. The Foreign Agents Registry Act. 40 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 5: The Foreign Agent Registry Act is a law imposed by 41 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 5: the United States in order to block the access of 42 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 5: Nazi Germans to the United States. Cutter currently has thirty 43 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 5: one registered FORA agents, compared to Israel, which has fifteen. 44 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 5: From twenty twenty one to twenty twenty five alone, Katarifara 45 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 5: agents locked six hundred and twenty seven in person meetings 46 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 5: with Members of Congress, which is more than every other 47 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 5: country by three hundred meetings. So let's talk about APAC. 48 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 5: I don't support APAC largely because they're pretty ineffective. APAK 49 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 5: is an organization comprised exclusively of Americans, by Americans, and 50 00:02:58,880 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 5: for Americans. 51 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 4: We don't have to like them, but. 52 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 5: That doesn't mean they're an agent of a foreign country. 53 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 5: Just like Indian Americans have uns PACK, the Armenian Americans 54 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 5: have ANKA, Greek Americans have HELP, or the Ukrainian American 55 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 5: community which is the UCCA. Americans are free to lobby 56 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 5: as they would like. And if you want to make 57 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 5: laws against the lobbying of Americans to their government, then fine, 58 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 5: let's discuss the policy and legislation. Although unfortunately all we've 59 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 5: done is obsess over one country in twenty twenty four, 60 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 5: It's true APAK is an American lobbying group, just like 61 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 5: the NRA or the Chamber of Commerce. They spent roughly 62 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 5: one hundred million dollars on lobbying and elections. In the 63 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 5: same year, China spent half a billion dollars, Japan spent 64 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 5: four hundred million dollars, Big Pharma four hundred million dollars, 65 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 5: Saudi Arabia three hundred and ten million dollars, Cutter a 66 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 5: quarter of a billion dollars. But you wouldn't know this 67 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 5: because my esteemed opponent is obsessed with only one country, 68 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 5: and one country only. But what about the fact that 69 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 5: Israel controls American foreign policy? Is an all of our 70 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 5: Congress bought and paid for by Israel. If that's true, 71 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 5: that somehow Israel controls American foreign policy, then someone clearly 72 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 5: needs to explain to me. How is it that President 73 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 5: Truman forced the Israelis to stop its advances against the 74 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,359 Speaker 5: Egyptian Army in nineteen forty eight, which actually would have 75 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 5: destroyed the Egyptian army unilaterally. President Eisenhower forced the State 76 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 5: of Israel to pull back from the Sinai In nineteen 77 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 5: fifty six. President Johnson refused to greenlight a preemptive strike 78 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 5: by Israel against the Egyptians. In nineteen sixty seven, President 79 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 5: Nixon prevented the IDF from crushing the Egyptian Third Army. 80 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 5: President Ford forced the Israelis to withdraw from strategic areas 81 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 5: under the Sinai to Agreement. President Carter pressured the Israelis 82 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 5: to fully withdraw from Sharimal Shaik. President Reagan applied pressure 83 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 5: to Israelis to withdraw from Beiruts. Of course, President Bush, 84 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 5: the senior forbade the Israelis from responding to Saddam's nineteen 85 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 5: ninety one Scott missile attack. And the point that you 86 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,679 Speaker 5: failed to address is if Israel actually controls the United 87 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 5: States government, how come that the greatest existential threat to 88 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 5: the State of Israel of the last twenty years, the 89 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 5: Iranian Nuclear Deal JCPOA, the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action 90 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 5: of which Bibinets, Nyahu Apak and almost every single Jewish 91 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 5: American lobby their member of Congress against, still passed. So 92 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,239 Speaker 5: if Israel controls America, they're doing a pretty shitty job. 93 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 5: And that brings me to my final point. You had said, 94 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 5: the only reason America has enemies in the Middle East 95 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 5: is because of Israel. Well, that doesn't make any sense because, 96 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 5: as I mentioned, the first War the United States ever 97 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 5: fought as a country was against Islamists off the coast 98 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 5: of Libya, which was more than one hundred and forty 99 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 5: years before the creation of the state of Israel, which 100 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 5: really brings me to my final point. The problem we 101 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 5: have in the United States is not something something the 102 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 5: Jews or something something Israel. The problem we have in 103 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 5: the United States is the rise of radical Islam in the. 104 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 4: Last twenty five years. 105 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 5: I am just going to name just a couple of incidents, 106 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 5: so indulge me. Nice France, radical Muslim terrorist, the twenty 107 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 5: seventeen Paris attacks Muslim, the reason TSA checkster, shoes and 108 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 5: airports radical Muslim, the Underwear bomber, radical Muslim, the New 109 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 5: Orleans Isis attack, Radical Muslim Westminster Boston marathon, Manchester Arena, 110 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 5: PanAm bonding, fort Hood belt Way sniper attacks. 111 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 4: The list goes on. 112 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 5: Bolli bombing, mortially rigged by USS, coal bombing, London Bridge attack, 113 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 5: Madri train, Charlie had Do, San Berrandino, US Marines, Beirut bombing, 114 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 5: Little Rock, Army shooting, Chattanooga military attack, Pulse night club 115 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 5: massacre in New York City, ICE's truck attack, Boulder, Colorado 116 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 5: fire bombing attack, DC shooting. Jews who wear kipas are 117 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 5: not going to blow you up on subway stations, but unfortunately, 118 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 5: radical Islamists will. 119 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 4: So let's get serious. 120 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 5: There have been more than fifty eight thousand Islamic terrorist 121 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 5: attacks in almost every country on planet Earth since nine 122 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 5: to eleven. So while we obsess about the only democracy 123 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 5: in the Middle East that comprises less than nine million people, 124 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 5: a quarter of whom are Muslim Arabs, the actual Islamists 125 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 5: see the weakness of the West and they're going to 126 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 5: take advantage of it. So is their foreign influence in 127 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 5: the United States. Absolutely, we have just ganged up on 128 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 5: the wrong country. 129 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: So many people shared it. It was absolutely brilliant. But 130 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: I'd met him and seen him at Praguer you well 131 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: before that. He's part of that incredible stable with Maurissa 132 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: Street does an amazing job. He's a star of the future. 133 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: So let's get to know who he is. Why Candice 134 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: can't stand him, and it will become very obvious why. 135 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: Because he stands for something, He's on the right side 136 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: of history. He's super intelligent, he has a moral compass. 137 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I could go on and on, and what 138 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: he wants to do Eventually so take note of this 139 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: very impressive young man, Shabs. First of all, thank you 140 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: and welcome to the Aaron Mullan Show. And second of all, 141 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: it's so lovely to have you on. I've been such 142 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: a big fan of yours for I mean not a 143 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: huge amount of time, because you haven't been around for 144 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: that long, but long enough for people to take notice. 145 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 2: So thank you for joining me. 146 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 4: Well thanks for having meppreciate it. 147 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: A moment of yours went really viral recently, and that 148 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: was you explaining this insanity behind people thinking that you know, 149 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: Israel controls the US, or that it's sucking the US dry, 150 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: or that there's a one side of relationship, and it 151 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: was part of a debate. First of all, were you 152 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: expecting it to go so well? And what do you 153 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: put it down to? Man, what do you think? 154 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 5: I did not expect it to go so well. I 155 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 5: really just thought that this was basic common sense and logic. 156 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 5: I mean, Israel does not even receive the majority of 157 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 5: American foreign aid, and even if when you look at 158 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 5: American foreign aid that comprises less than one percent of 159 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 5: the federal budget. So I've been very outspoken and on 160 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 5: the record, both publicly and when I'm meeting with people 161 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 5: like the Prime Minister of Israel or the Foreign minister saying, hey, 162 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 5: you should probably think about winning yourself off of American 163 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 5: foreign aid, which they've already publicly said you're not. I'm right, 164 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 5: but yes, that's something we're going to do. So this 165 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 5: obsession that the reason we have homelessness, the reason we 166 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 5: can't afford healthcare, the reason and we're working through jobs 167 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 5: is because of Israel, because of the Jews. It's just 168 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 5: not rooted in reality. And I think because of our 169 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 5: political climate today, which unfortunately is really rooted in lies 170 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 5: and really placating to the lowest common denominator, especially young 171 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 5: people who have just terrible role models in the manosphere verse, 172 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 5: I think people were just really refreshed to have common 173 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 5: sense and logic. So I'm glad it did well. But 174 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 5: what I was saying was not particularly revealing or remarkable. 175 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 5: It was simply the facts on the ground. 176 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: I can actually heavily relate to that. 177 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: Two points my interview with Prime Minister Netanya, who was 178 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: actually the first time that he said that he was 179 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: going to start the process of weaning off that, you know, 180 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: American cash so to speak, which is a crass way. 181 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 2: Of putting it. 182 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:44,839 Speaker 4: I agree with you entirely. 183 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: I think it's absolutely in Israel's interest. The second point 184 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: you make regarding people being so blown away and impressed 185 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: when it's just really obvious and common sense, is the 186 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: same reaction I get from people, you know, when they 187 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: thank me for using my voice or they you know, 188 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: people say, oh, it's just amazing that you can see 189 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: so clearly. And I think terrorists versus democratic nation, it's 190 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: not complex. It's very obvious side for me to take 191 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: what I'm looking at, choosing a side to advocate for. 192 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's a damning indictment of our political culture, 193 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 5: and it's a damning indictment of unfortunately a lot of 194 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 5: countries in the West where we're being fed a diet 195 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 5: of political indoctrination, so much so that when someone does 196 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 5: speak the truth, it's considered a revealing act and that's 197 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 5: a really bad thing. 198 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: Our courage showing you exactly requires which is again adds 199 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 1: to your point, it's insane. 200 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 4: Yeah. 201 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 5: So look, I'm gen Z, that's my generation, and as 202 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 5: the not a spokesman for gen Z, but as someone 203 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 5: who's representing a lot of gen Z people who recognize 204 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 5: that post Charlie Kirk. The people who have filled that space, 205 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 5: have filled that void are people who forget about the 206 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 5: fact that they vouch for things that are entirely contrary 207 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 5: to what Charlie stood for. But they are demoralizing young people. 208 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 5: They're telling them that the reason you won't have a 209 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 5: successful relationship, the reason you can't afford a home, the 210 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 5: reason of economy is so bad is you know, it's Israel, 211 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 5: It's the Jews, it's Bill Ackman, it's Barry Weiss. That 212 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 5: is an awful message to be telling young people, not 213 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 5: merely because it's not true, but also because if you 214 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 5: keep telling young people that they will never succeed, well 215 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 5: guess what, they will simply drop out of that system 216 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 5: to begin with. And one of the challenges I have 217 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 5: in my personal life is my name is shab Is Kestenbaum. 218 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 5: I wear a yamaka, so I'm kind of a walking stereotype. 219 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 5: In fact, Nick Fuent has once remarked that just saying 220 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 5: my name sounds like a hate crime. 221 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 4: So I get that. 222 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 5: When I defend Israel, or when I try to tell 223 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 5: young people, you know, make something of yourself, it very 224 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 5: often falls on deaf ears because it's so easy to say, well, 225 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 5: shut up, you Zionist, or shut up you Jew. But 226 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 5: I'm begging young people you don't have to like Israel, 227 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 5: you don't have to like Jewish people, but please make 228 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 5: something of yourself. Be the best version of you that 229 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 5: you can be. And if you constantly subscribe blame and 230 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 5: you avoid personal responsibility or accountability, I am telling you 231 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 5: your life will be a very bad experience. 232 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's easy in the short term, isn't it, to 233 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: avoid accountability, But long term it has never gone well 234 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: for anyone, let alone a nation. Mike Johnson spoke to 235 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: the UK Parliament in a historic speech and he alluded 236 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 1: to this exact thing in terms of you know, particular 237 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: in the UK has gone to helen a handbasket. 238 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 4: But we're taking people. 239 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: To hate themselves and to hate their countries. And why 240 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: would any child who thinks that their country is racist? 241 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: There are a bunch of colonizers that you know, men 242 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 1: shouldn't be strong and upstanding everyonet to defend themselves, their nation, 243 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: their way of life. We're teaching them not to believe 244 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: in all the things that actually matter. 245 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 4: Exactly. 246 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 5: There was actually talking about the United Kingdom. There was 247 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 5: a poll that came out about two weeks ago and 248 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 5: it showed that two thirds of young people in the 249 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 5: United Kingdom would not serve their own home country in 250 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 5: war if it came to that. And that is exactly 251 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 5: what you were just describing. When you constantly tell young people, 252 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 5: young people especially, that your history is racist, your culture 253 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 5: is racist, you have nothing to be proud of, then 254 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 5: it's not exactly a shock that they believe those things. 255 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 5: And we're seeing the exact same thing in the United States. 256 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 5: There has been somewhat of a cultural backlash due to 257 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 5: President Trump and his historic re election, where people are 258 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 5: proud to be an American, and in fact, here at Prager, 259 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 5: you were launching America two fifty with the White House 260 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 5: to talk about American patriotism. But yeah, I mean, I 261 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 5: was born in the United States. It's the only country 262 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 5: I have lived in, the only country I know and love, 263 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 5: and I will die in the United States. I'm so 264 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 5: proud to be an American. I'm so proud to talk 265 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 5: about that. We were founded not merely based upon or 266 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 5: based by people, but based on an idea, based on 267 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 5: a collection of individuals who wanted to build something better 268 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 5: than themselves. And I can't think of a more remarkable 269 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 5: story to tell people than the story of the United States. 270 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 2: Were you that kidding class who always had the hand up? 271 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 5: If you're asking if I was a nerd, the answer 272 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:45,119 Speaker 5: is yes, resoundingly. 273 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 4: I was not very popular. 274 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: A wonderful thing. A wonderful thing. By the way, where 275 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: did you come from? Where does this passion this? How 276 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 1: was your voice discovered initially? And I know Marisa and 277 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: all those at Prague you have great taste and can 278 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: identified talent. Dennis is well, But how did they find you? 279 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: And where did you come from? 280 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, so I'll engage in some self deprecation just for 281 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 5: a moment, So hold your booze. But I grew up 282 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 5: on the political far left. I supported Bernie Sanders twice. 283 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 5: I marched with Black Lives Matter during the BLM riots. 284 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 5: I marched at the Supreme Court when Rov Wade was overturned. 285 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 5: I was nine years old when I knocked on doors 286 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 5: for then Senate Senator Barack Obama. I volunteered for the 287 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 5: Jamal Bowman campaign in twenty twenty. So I have the credibility, unfortunately, 288 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 5: of being able to talk about the far left because 289 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 5: I was part of the far left. And I think 290 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 5: where my story probably begins is, like many Americans, and 291 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 5: in particular American Jews, is October seventh. So I was 292 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 5: a graduate student at Harvard University, and again I was 293 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 5: dabbling with far left, far leftists and far left policies, 294 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 5: and to me, being at Harvard University on October seventh 295 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 5: was just such a remarkable paradigm shift. 296 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 4: What do I mean by that? 297 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 5: The story of October seventh is not the story of 298 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 5: October seventh because Hamas is a dictatorial, tyrannical regime that 299 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 5: should be obliterate from the face of the earth. But 300 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 5: they're very clear as to what their goals are. You 301 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 5: can read their charter online in English. They call for 302 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 5: the destruction of the Jewish state from the river to 303 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 5: the sea. Hassan Estralla, the since deposed head of Hesbalala, 304 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 5: had stated for years it would be great for all 305 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 5: the Jews to move to Israel because it would be 306 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 5: so much more convenient to kill you in one location 307 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 5: than having to. 308 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 4: Hunt you down country to come out. 309 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: He described how they would do eighteen months prior, in 310 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: an interview on TV, he described how they would carry 311 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: out an October seventh. 312 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 5: Exactly, I mean exactly, and so that's the point. That's 313 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 5: exactly the point. So when terrorist commit acts of terrorism, 314 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 5: there must be a forceful response. But definitionally they're terrorist. 315 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 5: It's what they do to me. The story of October 316 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 5: seventy is October eighth because at Harvard University. Take it 317 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 5: from someone who is there. This is not exaggeration or 318 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 5: hyperbole or speculation. The most progressive, the most educated, the 319 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 5: most elite of our society, who took those needs for 320 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 5: black lives matter, who introduced themselves with preferred gender pronouns. 321 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 5: On the night of October seven, as they're watching the 322 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 5: images of Jewish women bleeding from their private areas like 323 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 5: Nama Leivi, as they're watching the images of Jewish beas 324 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 5: babies like fear Beeboss being kidnapped by strangers into gaza, 325 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 5: the immediate reaction of thirty four student groups at Harvard, 326 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 5: from the Feminist Society to the Muslim Student Association is 327 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 5: they jump out of bed, some are still in their 328 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 5: pajamas to draft what they called an emergency statement to 329 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 5: blame Jews for the largest masacer of juicince the Holocaust, 330 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 5: not exaggeration. The statement literally begins, we hold these raely 331 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 5: regime entirely responsible for all ongoing violence and get this er. 332 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 5: And this is I think the craziest part. There are 333 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 5: text messages we know this from the United States Congress, 334 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 5: the House Committee on Education as well as the Department 335 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 5: of Justice. There are text messages between the Harvard leadership 336 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 5: on the night of October seven, saying what do we do? 337 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 5: Do we condemn this or not? Because this is a 338 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 5: university that condemned the murder of George Floyd, even though 339 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 5: George Floyd was certainly not a student at Harvard. This 340 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 5: is an institution that condemned Rushan invasion of Ukraine. So 341 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 5: are they going to comment or not? In these text messages, 342 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 5: the leadership of Harvard University, including the now president Alan Garber, 343 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 5: they discuss how they do not want to use the 344 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 5: word violent because in their own word, they don't want 345 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 5: to be seen as choosing a side and when, and 346 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 5: they eventually release a statement which is I think three 347 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 5: or four days after the fact. This statement does not 348 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 5: include the word violent because, as they already clarified, they 349 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 5: don't want to be seen in a war between a 350 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 5: democracy and a terrorist Jihati Colt. They don't want to 351 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 5: be seen as taking a side. So that was my 352 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 5: paradigm shift, that was my political evolution. And I've been 353 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 5: blessed and privileged to be given a platform, blessed and 354 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 5: privilege to have helped out on the presidential campaign for 355 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 5: Donald Trump, and blessed and privileged to have met, you know, 356 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 5: incredible voices of moral clarity such as yourself. 357 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 4: These last two three years. 358 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 2: You've earned it. 359 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: Absolutely, you were so brilliant, and I can't wait to 360 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: watch you go from strength to strength. I think your 361 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: spot I mean your spot on in everything you say 362 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: for me, very similar. October seven was appalling, shocking, sickening, 363 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: gut wrenching, not surprising, as you said, they are terrorists. 364 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: For me, the moment of absolute we've got a serious 365 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: problem here in the West was not even so much 366 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: to those who went to the Opera House a day 367 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: later in Australia to celebrate the largest loss of Jewish life, 368 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,959 Speaker 1: a terrorist massacred to cheer and cheer and cheer and 369 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: chant gas the Jews, e f the Jews, all the 370 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: different things, cheers, smile, celebrate that again they're terrorist lovers 371 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: that didn't surprise me. It was appalling, but it didn't 372 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 1: surprise me. What worried me and scared the crap out 373 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: of me was the silence of my fellow Australians in 374 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: the aftermath of that. And I think that to me, 375 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: I went, Wow, we've got a problem here. If my 376 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: country and my leadership and everyday Australians are willing maybe 377 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: not to endorse it, but to be silent and not 378 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: unequivocally condemn it. I thought, we've got a serious issue 379 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: here in what this country has become, what we stand for, 380 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: and what we're willing to. 381 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 4: Accept one hundred percent. 382 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 5: And we just had Martin Luther King Junior day here 383 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 5: in the United States. 384 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 2: And he was a Zionist, wasn't he. 385 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 5: He Zionist, pro Israel, pro Jewish. And I did a 386 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 5: panel with his niece, Elvida King, and she reminded me 387 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 5: on this panel of the line I think quintessential line 388 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 5: from our uncle, which is we won't remember the words 389 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,719 Speaker 5: of our enemies, but the silence of our friends. And 390 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 5: to your point, that has been the story of so 391 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 5: many Americans and so many Jewish Americans since October seven. 392 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 5: It's not that there are those who hate us, because 393 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 5: there have always been those that hate us, but it's 394 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 5: those in positions of leadership that we thought were our friends, 395 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 5: who at best remained silent and at worst actually joined 396 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 5: our ideological adversaries. And there are something fundamentally broken in 397 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 5: the West when going back to our first question, when 398 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 5: we don't have those who are a telling the truth 399 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 5: and B we don't have those in positions of leadership 400 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 5: that we can abscribe subscribe a sense of morality or 401 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 5: ethics too, that's a major major problem. 402 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, so how do we fix it? Young men. 403 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 5: You're asking me? Look, I think there are a lot 404 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 5: of ways we go about this. First and foremost, it's 405 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 5: very practical, and that is all countries Australia, the United States. 406 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 5: Unfortunately for countries like the United Kingdom or France or Cana, 407 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 5: I think it's a little too late, but we must 408 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 5: immediately stop importing those those who detest our values, stop 409 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 5: importing migrants who hate the West, who hate religious freedom, 410 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 5: who hate democracy, and whether your name is Mahmud Khalil 411 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 5: or juweyjustein those who come to our Western countries who 412 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 5: want to take over our institutions, who want to supplant 413 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 5: our way of life, they absolutely cannot be allowed into 414 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 5: our country. 415 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 4: Number one. 416 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 5: And then number two, those already here who are subversing 417 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 5: our western way of life must be deported. This is 418 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 5: not a conservative talking point, This is not a Trumpian policy. 419 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 5: This has been the law for hundreds of years. The 420 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 5: problem is we have so many policymakers who don't enforce 421 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 5: federal law, who don't enforce the laws already on the book. 422 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 5: So I think a good first step and prison Trump 423 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 5: has done this is ensuring that our borders are secure. 424 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 5: Not just physical borders, because roughly two thirds of illegal 425 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 5: immigrants will just overstay a visa, but ensuring that those 426 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 5: who are applying to come to this country legally are 427 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 5: also those we want into this country, which again talk 428 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 5: about a cultural backlash. In response to President Trump, one 429 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 5: of the most remarkable achievements, and today is actually one 430 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 5: year since he was inaugurated, one of his most remarkable 431 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,719 Speaker 5: achievements is now the Overton window has shifted so dramatically 432 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 5: that it's a given that most of the country now 433 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 5: believes I legal immigrants need to be deported. And now 434 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 5: the conversation is on legal immigration. So people like Mehdi Hasa, 435 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 5: or people like Mahmud Khalil who came in legally. We 436 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 5: have to now ask ourselves how did they get visas 437 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 5: to begin Someone like Makhmud Khalil, who call from the 438 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 5: gradication of Western civilization, who lied on his visa application, 439 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 5: who depart in riots at Columbia University, why was he 440 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,719 Speaker 5: granted a visa to beginning? So that's step one. It's 441 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 5: ensuring that we have strong borders both physically and culturally. 442 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 5: And then number two, and this is why Charlie Kirkwood 443 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 5: is such a remarkable human being. Is I'm obviously Jewish Again, 444 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 5: I don't know what gave that away, the fact my 445 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 5: name is Shabitz or like Rakiba. But we have to 446 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 5: bring I believe, religion back into the mainstream culture. So, 447 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 5: if you are a Christian, America is a Christian nation, 448 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 5: and we would be a much better country if more 449 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 5: young people went to church, if more young people studied 450 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 5: the New Testament and the Old Testament, and if more 451 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 5: young people lived a life in accordance with the teachings 452 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 5: of Jesus Christ. As Charlie said, you know, go to church, 453 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 5: get married, have kids. That should be the lesson. We're 454 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:10,199 Speaker 5: telling young people not the opposite without mentioning names. But 455 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 5: of those deadbeat loser I won't even call them influencers 456 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 5: in Miami just two nights ago, who forget about the 457 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 5: blatant anti semitism and chanting Hyle Hitler. I mean that's easy. 458 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 5: Of course, that's terrible. But people who are literally on 459 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 5: crystal meth telling people not to get married, to just 460 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 5: do drugs and all that matters is how you physically look. 461 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 5: I mean, that is just so destructive to the mindset 462 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 5: of young people. So strong borders are strong ethics of 463 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 5: our country and bringing religion back into the forefront of 464 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 5: our society. 465 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really I mean it's not controversial, is it. 466 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: And I look at Australia, where illegal immigration is not 467 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 1: really an issue. We have huge amounts of legal immigration 468 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: that we cannot sustain. And I say, you know, if 469 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: you want to come to our country and we need 470 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: people in Australia and you're willing to contribute and absolutely 471 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: keep parts of your culture that is sacred to you 472 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: and enjoy them and whatever you like, but don't try 473 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: to replace ours and don't try and kill us. 474 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 2: Like it's a really low bar. 475 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 4: It's a really low bar. 476 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: And I think you're right on the religion front as well, 477 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: and it starts at home. I'm assuming your parents were wonderful, 478 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: supportive parents who you know, instilled in new great values 479 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: and a sense that you can do anything you like 480 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 1: and that you should care deeply about things that matter. 481 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 1: And I think we've all got to take a look 482 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 1: at the kind of homes because we can't let childcare 483 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: centers do it. Look at Miss Rachel online with Mum Daddy. 484 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: We can't allow them to influence our kids and indoctrinate 485 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 1: our kids, same as education systems. 486 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 2: You know. 487 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: It's this focus has to come back to the way 488 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: we're raising our kids at home. And it's great if 489 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 1: that's with religion, but even if it's not, it's got 490 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 1: to be values based exactly. 491 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 5: And I think if you're a parent and you are 492 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 5: substituting your moral responsibility to raise your own children to 493 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 5: Miss Rachel, then I think there's clearly some type of 494 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 5: moral dilemma that you were experiencing. But look to your point, 495 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 5: I was raised and I would still even though I'm 496 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 5: a little older now, I still say I am raised. 497 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 5: My parents still instruct me as much as they can, 498 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 5: especially Jewish parents. But I was raised with a strong 499 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 5: sense of values and ethics. And I'll just give one 500 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,479 Speaker 5: quick example, and that is Renee Good, the woman who 501 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 5: was shot and killed by an ice officer. And the 502 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 5: reason why I think that's such a remarkable example is 503 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 5: because leaving aside whether she was reversing, whether she was 504 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 5: trying to run him over look, obviously, I think the 505 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 5: ice officer used appropriate force in the expectation imminent danger. 506 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 4: But I digress. 507 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 5: The reason I bring it up is because I was 508 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 5: told by my parents, by my school, by my religious institutions, 509 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 5: that when you interact with federal law enforcement, there are 510 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 5: only ever two appropriate responses, yes sir and no, sir. 511 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 5: And that is it a man of a person within 512 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 5: a position of authority, you respect them. You give them 513 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 5: the respect that they have earned and deserved. With in 514 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 5: our society, and we have seen the societal breakdown of 515 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 5: what happens when you have supplanted or subversed those basic 516 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 5: and common narratives of respect. It leads to the breakdown 517 00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 5: of a society. So absolutely, families and whole are the 518 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 5: cornerstone of any healthy civilization. And that's why again, young 519 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 5: people hate as well as much as you want, but please, 520 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 5: for the love of God, don't listen to individuals who 521 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 5: tell you not to get married, that you should only 522 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 5: be concerned about looksmaxing and how you physically present yourself. 523 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 5: Raising a family, having children is the most rewarding, beautiful 524 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 5: thing you could possibly be doing, and he needs to 525 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 5: have policymakers who recognize and encourage that as well. 526 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,919 Speaker 1: And from a parent's perspective as well. And you're not 527 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: there yet, and I'm sure that's all in your future. 528 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 5: Well, anyone's listening, you know, and they know of anyone 529 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 5: who's a single, beautiful Jewish woman and they can connect us. 530 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: Actually, actually this could be really fun as an extension 531 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: to this episode, send me a DM ladies. 532 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 2: I'll hook you up. But you've got a model that 533 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 2: behavior yourself. 534 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: And I look at at the influences in my life 535 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 1: and I lost my dad a couple of years ago. 536 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: But he was the most He was a major general 537 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: in the army. He was a senator in Australian Parliament, 538 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: a Conservative senator, the most individually voted for senator in 539 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 1: Australian history. He stood for everything that mattered He taught 540 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: me by example to do what is right, even when 541 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: it's hard, even when there are a loud voices telling 542 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: you not to stick up for yourself. Well, all these things, 543 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: and then I look at and you know, he was 544 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: a public figure. A lot of people know who he 545 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: is and talk about him. But my mother, who was 546 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: more impressive than all of us tenfold because she was 547 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: there and she cared for us and she didn't work. 548 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: We have that, you know, luxury of having her there 549 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: when we moved around to different places and in all 550 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 1: the ways that matter, just as much as a strong 551 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: dad who went out and did these things, was this 552 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: incredible support that was always a safe space for us 553 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 1: and was always there. 554 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 4: You know. 555 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 2: It's it's so interesting. 556 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: I look at the model, you know, the behaviors that 557 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: that I was raised by and surrounded with as a 558 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: child that I now try and provide. And you know, 559 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: I'm separated from my daughter's dad, but he's an incredible 560 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: dad and we copramp beautifully. And it's just this, in 561 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: all the ways that matter, I think it's the greatest 562 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: gift you'll ever give to your kids, is modeling the 563 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: kind of behavior and the values, and you know, that 564 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: you were raised with. 565 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 2: If they're the right ones, and you change the world, 566 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 2: I'll tell you change the world at time. 567 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 4: Yeah. 568 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 5: And I think again to be a little biased because 569 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 5: again I'm a religious Jew, but I think that's where 570 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 5: my religion has really complemented my life. And I don't 571 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 5: find my Judaism to be part of my identity. My 572 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 5: Judaism really is my identity. And I got into a 573 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 5: lot of trouble on Twitter a few weeks ago because 574 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 5: I had said, as an Orthodox Jew, I am Jewish first, 575 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 5: and that means I base my politics, I base my 576 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 5: relationships all on my Judaism, and I encouraged Christians you 577 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 5: should be Christian first as well. Base your politics, base 578 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 5: your relationships, base the woman you want to marry on 579 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 5: your religion. And you know who taught me that, Charlie Kirk. 580 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 5: That's why the terminology is a Christian Conservative. You know, 581 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 5: have your religion influence your values. And Judaism very much 582 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 5: talks about the importance of people should get married and 583 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 5: people should have families. In fact, the very first commandment 584 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 5: that Adam and Eve are given in the Garden of 585 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 5: Eden is what's called in Hebrew prew or avou be 586 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 5: fruitful and multiply, have kids, build a family, build a 587 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 5: legacy for yourself. And I think that's one of the 588 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 5: ways were one of the reasons why Western civilization flourished, 589 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 5: because we had value on life. We had value on 590 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 5: the divinity of each person who was created in the 591 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 5: image of God. And the more we abandon those sacred 592 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 5: sant sacred sant values, the more we abandon what it 593 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 5: means to be a man of the West, to be 594 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 5: an American. 595 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: Beautifully said on that note, thank you so so much 596 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: for coming on the show. Can you tell my audience 597 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: how they can find you, how they can see you, 598 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: how I can watch you and listen to you. 599 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 5: Sure, so, I have a show here at Praeger you 600 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 5: It's called The Brief. We release an episode once a 601 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 5: week and then certainly your listeners can can find me 602 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 5: on Twitter and on Instagram. Just type in my name 603 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 5: shab Is Kestin Baum. It's a long name. But the 604 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 5: flip side is there are no other shob Is custing Banks, 605 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 5: so I'm the first result. 606 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 2: Ye, well, come, well, we'll come. Legend. Thank you says 607 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 2: so much. 608 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 4: Thank you, Eron, I appreciate it. 609 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: Well, ladies, and gentlemen, thank you so much for watching 610 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: this weekend edition of The Aaron molan Show. We have 611 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: a huge, huge week coming up for you, some big 612 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: interviews going into some big spaces. We've also got Milania 613 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: Trump's chief advisor on the new movie Millania, which is 614 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,959 Speaker 1: coming out. I'm going to be in Washington for the 615 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: premiere of that, so I'll bring you all the goss 616 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: from there as well. Huge week stay with us of course, 617 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: so much happening in Iran as well. 618 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 2: We will be right on top of that. 619 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: A lot of military infrastructure, not just from the US, 620 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: moving towards that region. 621 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 2: Again. Huge week. 622 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: Cannot wait for you to join me. Love you all, 623 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your support. Make sure you share, like, rate, rank, 624 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: whatever it is you do. Subscribe and we'll see you Monday, 625 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: six am for our next installment of The Aaron Mullin Show.