1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's podcast sponsored by Hillsdale College, All Things 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: hillsdalet Hillsdale dot ed or I encourage you to take 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: advantage of the many free online courses there, and of 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: course I'll listen to the Hillsdale dialogues, all of them 5 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: at Hugh for Hillsdale dot com or just Google, Apple 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: iTunes and Hillsdale Morning Glory and even Grace America. And 7 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: here's the Big Weekend pod. I'm Hugh Hewett. Thank you 8 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 1: for listening. Big line up today, John ellis of course 9 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: with the news items of great import that you may 10 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: have missed this week. Be following it up with Eli Lake. 11 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 1: We'll be talking about Iron, as I will be with 12 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: Matt Continei and Ben Dominicic as well. Look at a possible, 13 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: as I said on America Reports yesterday John Roberts, possible 14 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: that Iron will capitulate and simply say, hey, we're going 15 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: to open up the kimono, Come get our missiles, come 16 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: get our uranium. It's what Kadafi did in two thousand 17 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: and three December two thousand and three through the spring 18 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: of two thousand and four, after the invasion of Rock 19 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: had marched up to Bagdad Kadafi saw what the United 20 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: States military could do, and he said, okay, out come 21 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: get all my bad stuff, and we did go and 22 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: get all of his bad stuff. Could the Iranians make 23 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:06,839 Speaker 1: that deal. 24 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. 25 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: I don't think actually a regime is capable of doing that. 26 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: But could a new regime put a bullet in the 27 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: back of Himene's head and decide, no, we're not going 28 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: to go down with this ship. 29 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 2: These people are crazy. Yeah, that's possible, but it. 30 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: Would be a new regime, Like there's a new regime 31 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: in Venezuela that is cooperating with President Trump and the 32 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: rest of the administration in the transition to something new 33 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: and something that doesn't threaten the United States or the 34 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: people of Venezuela. That transition undeterminate yet how long it 35 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: will go. But I'll talk with all my guests about 36 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: that today. Plus Japan takes a Chinese shipping boat. We'll 37 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: start there with John Ellis on this big weekend pod. 38 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening, Glory and even Graves in America. 39 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: I hope your Valentine's Day weekend is off to a 40 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: good start. I'm starting the program today with John Allis, 41 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: founder and editor in chief of News Items, your morning 42 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: newsletter on everything that's important in the world. Get rid 43 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: of everything else. You can stick with news items and 44 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: be well read. John, I had no idea until you 45 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: sent me the note that we got a little crisis 46 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: brewing in the South China Sea. I didn't know that 47 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: Prime Minister Takaichi had won a thumping, big victory last Sunday, 48 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: did not know that Japan had seized a Chinese fishing 49 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: vessel within their exclusive economic zone and China is not happy. 50 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: How goes that situation, Well. 51 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 3: It's interesting. 52 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 4: I think it's the most important story of the day, 53 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 4: and it may, you know, become more important as the 54 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 4: day's passed. But if you go back to November, Takeishi 55 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 4: was newly installed as the Prime minister. She was asked 56 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 4: what would happen if China invaded Taiwan, and she said, 57 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 4: Japan could become involved if that were to occur. The 58 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 4: Chinese completely flipped out about that. They said, mind your 59 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 4: own business, you know, you have no right to even 60 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 4: think that, and they and they put down, you know, 61 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 4: some market, you know, tourists from. 62 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 3: China could go to Japan. Whatever. 63 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 4: She then last weekend was elected her party got a 64 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 4: two thirds majority in the Diet, which is the Japanese Congress, 65 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 4: and you know, she won a landslide victory. And here 66 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 4: we are five days later and a Chinese fishing boat 67 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 4: is in Japanese water. The Japanese seized the fishing boat 68 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 4: and they arrest the captain. And so that's where we're 69 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 4: at right now. But the one thing that President g 70 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 4: has simply can't allow is for him to appear week 71 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 4: and at the moment he appears weak because the Chinese 72 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 4: haven't done anything yet. 73 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 3: So we'll see what. 74 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: I would also add to what into her newly elected status. 75 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 4: It's a fairly bold move and one I think that well. 76 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 4: I surprised it wasn't on the front page of every 77 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 4: major news website. 78 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: Now you brought to my attention and I immediately went 79 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: to see what have we got there? The Lincoln was 80 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: on patrol in the South China Sea. That George Washington 81 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: is back in Yakuska in the homeport. We do have 82 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: a big deck Tripoli US Marine Corps carrying ship out there, 83 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: and it's a big deck. But we really don't need 84 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 1: another crisis in the world right now. With two carriers 85 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: on their way to off the coast of Iran. So 86 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: good heads up on that. Let's go to the good 87 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: news in your briefing that you sent me Alzheimer's A 88 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: I'm covered on coffee. I'm not sure I'm covered on 89 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: language unless high school Latin counts. Let people know about 90 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: how to ward off Alzheimer's and dementia. 91 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 3: So there are two stories today. 92 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 4: One is that caffeine reduces your risk of Alzheimer's, and 93 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 4: it's a huge study conducted over forty three years. Two 94 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 4: or three cups of coffee a day, two or three 95 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 4: cups of tea a day reduces your risk of inflation of. 96 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 3: It reduces it reduces your risk. 97 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: Hope that might be why the number came in today. 98 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 4: Sorry about that reduces your risk of dementia and you know, 99 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 4: as I said, it's a huge study. So that was 100 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 4: encouraging news, particularly for me because I get up very 101 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 4: early in the morning. 102 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 3: And drink a fair amount of coffee. 103 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 4: The second is that if you if you keep engaged intellectually, 104 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 4: if you read, if you write, if you do puzzles, 105 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 4: you know, if you stay active, if you learn the language, 106 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 4: it reduces your risk of dementia by forty percent. So 107 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 4: the advice is to start reading, start writing, and start 108 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 4: doing puzzles. 109 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: And well, I work with Dwayne every day, so I'm 110 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: covered on the puzzles too. But yeah, one thing they 111 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: never tell you in these studies on caffeine is I 112 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: don't know anyone who drinks three cups of coffee. He 113 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: doesn't drink five cups of coffee. So I'm the five 114 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: cup of copy a guy day. Does it decline? Did 115 00:05:58,600 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: you get to the small print? 116 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 3: I didn't get to the small print. 117 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 4: I was so excited about the first paragraph that I 118 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 4: didn't read it anymore. 119 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: Now you have to explain to me the AI story 120 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 1: you sent me, because the numbers are mind boggling on 121 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 1: the speed with which AI can compute or likely to 122 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: compute in the next twenty years. 123 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a research group called METR and they built 124 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 4: a simple model for forecasting when AI will automate AI development. Okay, 125 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 4: so essentially the AI will wrote write the code, and 126 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 4: at current rate I'm going to quote from the research article, 127 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 4: at current rates of compute growth and algorithmic progress, this 128 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 4: model's median prediction is ninety nine percent automation of AI 129 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 4: R and D in late twenty thirty two, So six 130 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 4: years from today, all code, all AI code, will be 131 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 4: written by AI. 132 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 3: And that is. 133 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 4: That it has enormously positive implications because if genetics is 134 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 4: code as well, there are four letters and three billion 135 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 4: base pairs, So if your AI is able to write 136 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 4: that code, then we'll have a much better understanding of 137 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 4: every disease. It will be astonishing. On the other hand, 138 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 4: there are no guardrails to code writing code. There's no structure, 139 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 4: there's no salt talk if you will, that that nations 140 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 4: all agree on and how it should develop. So it 141 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 4: could be that the machines win. 142 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: In the absence of an agreement, everyone goes fast as 143 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: you can, which may lead to why people are so gloomy. 144 00:07:56,360 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: The poll that you brought from Pew about the percentage 145 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: of US adults who anticipate living high quality lives in 146 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: five years down to under sixty percent. I find that astonishing. 147 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 4: John ellis, Yeah, it was actually a gallup pole. But 148 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 4: they've been, you know, they've been tracking this forever, and 149 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 4: it is truly discouraging because people in the US are 150 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 4: you know, discouraged, and the younger they are, the more 151 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 4: discouraged they are. So it's something that needs to be 152 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 4: turned around or else we're in a lot more trouble 153 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 4: than we. 154 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 3: Think we are. 155 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: Is exuberance always been lower among the younger than it 156 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: has been among the middle aged because they are uncertainty? 157 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: Or is it something that is precipitously declining with gen alpha. 158 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 4: It's declining. It's not that it's precipitously declining. It's that 159 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 4: the steady decline has full en off a couple of 160 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 4: stairs instead. 161 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: Of one stair at a time I got my books. 162 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: Discouraging the Pew Pole does not surprise me. That's the 163 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: low confidence in journalism to act in the best interest 164 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: in public Fifty seven percent express low confidence in journalism 165 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: when it comes to acting in the public interest. 166 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 2: I kind of actually surprised it's that high. 167 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 4: John Well, I think you know this is not this 168 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 4: is not news, right, I mean, we've been watching this 169 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 4: trend for a long time, uh, and you know that 170 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 4: it's I think the reason that it's not higher is 171 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 4: it because people have found their own news sources, which 172 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 4: they quite like, right. I mean people who listen to 173 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 4: Hugh hewittt like the Hugh Hewitt Show. So from from 174 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 4: their point of view, you know, the news media isn't 175 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 4: a bad thing. But I think big news media organizations, 176 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 4: the major broadcast networks, the major cable organizations measure what 177 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 4: we used to call newspapers, are suffering a crisis of confidence. 178 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 3: But that's you know, that's not news. 179 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: That's yeah, you've got tens of thousands, You've got tens 180 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: of thousands of subscribers to news items. 181 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 2: I am among them. 182 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: Do they ever do you ever get feedback from them 183 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: why they have confidence and news items? Because I think 184 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: it's because you cover the waterfront quickly, but I'm not sure. 185 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 3: I think, I mean, I think the. 186 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 4: Key to our success, such as it is, is that 187 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 4: in eight minutes, you get a lot of information that 188 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 4: is you know, vetted, and that brings to your attention 189 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 4: stuff that you might not otherwise see. I mean, the 190 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 4: basic premises, We read it all so you don't have to, 191 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 4: and then we make the decisions as to what is 192 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:48,119 Speaker 4: most important. 193 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 3: And people like. 194 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 4: That because it's you know, they can get a pretty 195 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 4: broad picture in eight minutes and. 196 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 3: Then they can get on with their day. 197 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: All right, last story you sent me, Switzerland is joining 198 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: the anti immigrant maybe joining the anti immigrant wave. They're 199 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: going to hold a referendum. I'm not sure when it's 200 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: going to be on whether or not to admit more people. 201 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 4: Details, yeah, details are that the current population is nine million. 202 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 4: There's a strong conservative movement in Switzerland that has gathered 203 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 4: the signatures to put a petition, put a referendum essentially 204 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 4: on the ballot to say, look, we're going to cap 205 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 4: the population of Switzerland at ten millions so that we're 206 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 4: not overrun by immigration. And it's an important vote. Switzerland 207 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 4: is not part of the EU, but it is indicative 208 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 4: I think of a very strong reaction to immigration across Europe. 209 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 4: And as the climate gets worse in the upper part 210 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 4: of Africa and stuff, and as the political climate deteriorates 211 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 4: in the Middle East, more and more people are going 212 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 4: to want you moved to Europe. And so Switzerland has 213 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 4: said nope, quartering to go ten millions the number and 214 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 4: that's it. 215 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: And Italy deployed its navy today saying stop introduce all 216 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: shipping from Africa. So it is not just the Swist's everywhere. 217 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: John Ellis from news Items, Thank you. If you want 218 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: news items, just go to Google news items. Sean Ellis 219 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: substack and you'll find it. Thank you, John, I'll be right. 220 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 2: Welcome back to America. 221 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: I'm Hugh Hewett, joined now by Eli Lake of the 222 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: Free Press, where he was writing about the Kurds inside 223 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 1: of Iran today. Eli, good to see you. Follow Eli 224 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: at x on exit Eli Lake. Yesterday, the President said 225 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 1: if negotiations don't work, there will be severe trauma for Iran, 226 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: and that they have about a month or zo to 227 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: make them work. I note before we start that Kadaffi 228 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: in fact capitulated in late two thousand and three, early 229 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: two thousand or opened up as Kaimano. Take my nuclear stuff, 230 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: take my chemical take my skates. That's really the only 231 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: choice that I think the Iranians have other than getting 232 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: hammered again. 233 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 5: What do you think, Well, I agree with you. 234 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 6: I think it's slightly different than what happened with Kadaffi. 235 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 6: Kadaffi was responding to the invasion of Iraq and the 236 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 6: coalition that George W. Bush had put together, and this 237 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 6: was pursued discreetly. There was no announcement of it until 238 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:35,479 Speaker 6: there was a deal. It was done first through intelligence, 239 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 6: and it was done very quietly. This time it's a 240 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 6: little different. We we know that we had Midnight Hammer 241 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 6: last June and the Iranian people, which were we began 242 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 6: the year with that front and center. I think, you 243 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 6: know are we're We're in the beginning stages. My hope 244 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 6: is that we are in the beginning stages of a 245 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 6: revolution that will finally topple the Islamic Republic. In this respect, 246 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 6: Trump is basically offering a kind of lifeline, albeit a 247 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 6: godfather offer, sort of light fline. If you disarm and 248 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 6: you do all these things which are definitely in the 249 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 6: US national interest, we will let you survive. But the 250 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 6: problem is he began twenty twenty six by promising to 251 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 6: come to the aid of the Iranian people who've already 252 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 6: died in the tens of thousands at the hands of 253 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 6: this vicious regime. So I have mixed feelings about them. 254 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 6: Where we are at this moment, I have very. 255 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: Clear feeling eli, which is, if the President follows through, 256 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: he will have done what he promised to do, meaning 257 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: if he attacks Iran, or if they totally capitulate and 258 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: Hamani is gone and his son is gone and there's 259 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: a general in charge, it's. 260 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 2: Possible, it is not likely. 261 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: And then I think it is very likely that he's 262 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: going to hammer Iran, but that as Admiral Montgomery explained 263 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: on this program on Monday, he's going to do it 264 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: after making sure we're it's defended as we can be 265 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: wherever we are vulnerable. And I don't I don't know 266 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: if they'll be Serbia like or Libya like in terms 267 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: of our pounding of him, but it's going to be big, 268 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: and I think it's going to be within a month 269 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: to two months. 270 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 6: Well, this is again I want to What I want 271 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 6: to say though, is that what bought. What concerns me 272 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 6: is that he has it seems that he has dropped 273 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 6: the condition that you can't kill the Iranians who are 274 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 6: protesting the regime. 275 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 2: That's the problem. 276 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 6: They did kill in the tens of thousands, lots of 277 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 6: they defied his redline. And if there is a final deal, 278 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 6: I have not heard any I mean, it could be 279 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 6: that that's in the deal, but we haven't heard. 280 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 5: When Trump talks. 281 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 6: About the deal, he talks about nuclear he talks about missiles. 282 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 6: He meets with net and Yahoo, but we don't hear. 283 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 6: And we talked about the terror proxies, but what about 284 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 6: the executions, what about you know, the Iranian people and Ultimately, 285 00:15:57,840 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 6: I think the end goal has to be the end 286 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 6: of the regime. 287 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 2: Well, I give you that. 288 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I agree, but el I've heard a 289 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: lot of people talking about this. We won't know how 290 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: well Trump has pulled this off until it's over. 291 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 2: It's like Sophocle. 292 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: He will not know how good the day has been 293 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: until the sun is set, and we want the sun 294 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: doesn't set on this drama for a while. So I'm 295 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: I don't think he can bring those people back to life. 296 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: I don't blame them that the regime killed them and 297 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: they've been killing people for forty seven years. But I 298 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: do think we got to give him a chance to 299 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: do what he said he would do, and by by 300 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: upping the any with terror, with the missiles on the table, 301 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: they're not going to give up their missiles, are they? 302 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 5: Well? 303 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 6: Agree that now you're getting into something else, which is 304 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 6: that can they accept the offer? Are they motivated by 305 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 6: a kind of regime death wish? I believe they are. 306 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 6: I think they're apocalyptic. And then the second thing is 307 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 6: is that it's absolutely prudent to want to make sure that. 308 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 2: You have the innerset. 309 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 6: Actors in place and the military positioning in place to 310 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 6: absorb any kind of barrages that the Iranians will launch 311 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 6: after an attack. All of that's true, and I hope 312 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:07,959 Speaker 6: and that there's a lot of coordination I assume there 313 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 6: is between the Mosad and our military and the CIA 314 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 6: to find out exactly where them as the launchers are 315 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 6: and to make sure maybe we get them before they 316 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 6: can fire them off. All that's great, but I just 317 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:20,959 Speaker 6: want to stress it's not a judgment, because I think 318 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 6: you're right, we have to judge this until we can't 319 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 6: judge until it's over. I'm throwing one red flag, though, 320 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 6: is that the regime was cratering. They had lost popular legitimacy. 321 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 6: Even the Chancellor of Germany said they're in their final 322 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 6: months or days. 323 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 2: At this point. 324 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 6: Even the act of negotiations is reflected back to the 325 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 6: Iranian people, see America will abandon you. And that's the 326 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 6: part of it that doesn't sit well with me. I 327 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 6: understand that he's trying to do it without war. That's 328 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 6: always admirable, but then why make a promise that you 329 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 6: didn't deliver on When they did that, now you know 330 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 6: again it could be one of these things where he 331 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 6: said that that was where his heart was. And then 332 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 6: he's briefed, listen, we don't have the interceptors in place. 333 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 6: We've got to move these assets into the Persian golf. 334 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 6: That's going to take some time. I understand that. And 335 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 6: in the end history will judge him by the final result, 336 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 6: not by what maybe happens in the interim. But just 337 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 6: right now, where is that original demand, stop killing your 338 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 6: own people? 339 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 5: Moas we hold all the cards, they have zero leverage. 340 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 1: They can't deliver that now. I mean, I think he 341 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: was actually trying to protect those people. I think he 342 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 1: was trying to tell their regime not to do that. 343 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: And the regime did it, and they did something I 344 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: didn't think possible. They out Chinese the tannem and square thing. 345 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: They went three times and square, and I didn't think 346 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: we'd ever see that done in the daylight or at 347 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: nighttime or without the internet. So they have done the 348 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 1: worst that they could possibly And now it's made it 349 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: harder because the IRGC can't really lay down its arms, 350 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: can they are the people will? I asked the Crown 351 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: Prince that this on Monday, how do you stop the 352 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: reprisals if the regime falls? And he says, they think 353 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: they can. I don't think he can. 354 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 7: Do you. 355 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 2: I hope he can. 356 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 6: I think there was I think in I think reprisals 357 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 6: in the situation, and it's been building I'd say since 358 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 6: seventy nine, are inevitable. I mean, there reprisals. As we 359 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 6: know in Romania, it's very rare that you don't get 360 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 6: reprisals when you have a regime this violent, repressive finally topple. 361 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 5: But they do have to go. 362 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 6: And I'm just worried that even if we got a 363 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 6: great deal on all the things we wanted, the survival 364 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 6: of the regime is still in my view of failure. 365 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: Well, I agree, but I don't think. I don't think 366 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: that's possible. 367 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 5: Eli. 368 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, because if that is, then trumps gerald in a 369 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: way it would be as it would be a historic failure. 370 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: It would haunt his presidency if he collapses. 371 00:19:59,040 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 2: Yep. 372 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 6: Yes, And I think the good The difference between Trump 373 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 6: and Obama, there's been a lot of these comparisons, is 374 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 6: that Trump understands that you can never go into a 375 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 6: negotiation wanting the deal more than the other side. So 376 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 6: he's shown before he is willing to say to walk 377 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 6: away and say I'm not going to play games anymore. 378 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 6: That was something that was Obama's big weakness. He at 379 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 6: the end of it, he just wanted any deal and 380 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 6: he got a very bad one. So I don't think 381 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 6: Trump will agree to a bad deal in terms of 382 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 6: our US interest. I just want him to understand that 383 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 6: even if what he thinks is a good dealer, the 384 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 6: AD either says a good deal, it can't be a 385 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 6: good deal until we see a new regime in Iran. 386 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I agree. And if you ever played Jackson Open, 387 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: trust the Wynn poker. H the Iranians doing Jackson Open. 388 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: They can't open. Yeah, I mean they can't write and 389 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: so yeah, So I hope we're there. I never seen 390 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: Well keep talking about it every week because Eli and 391 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: I have gotten there's no other story that's important in 392 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: the world. Maybe the Chinese fishing boat, the Japanese cities 393 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 1: this morning, but all other story is this close. Stay 394 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: tuned in America. Thank you, Eli Lake, follow him at 395 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: Eli Lake, and read them in the Free Press. 396 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 2: Stay tune. Welcome back to America. 397 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: I'm Hugh Hewett, joined now by Wall Street Journal columnist 398 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: Matt Continetti. Matt also has domestic policy studies at the 399 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: American Enterprise Institute, and in his column this week for 400 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: the Journal, he was talking domestic policy. He said, the 401 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: Republicans need three things before November. Sustained economic growth. I 402 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: think I'm going to give a check to that. Given 403 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: the inflation number and job number this week, they need 404 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: to have a put the Democrats on their feet with 405 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: a pivotal moment towards the end. Don't know if that's 406 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: going to happen, and they need presidential barnstorming, which I 407 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: think is going to happen. Matt Continetti, do you agree 408 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: with me first on the fact that sustained economic growth 409 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: appears to be in the in the offering for as 410 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 1: long as we can. 411 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 5: See, Absolutely, Hugh. I mean, this administration has a great 412 00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 5: story to tell on the economy. The very simply, jobs 413 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 5: are above expectations and inflation is below expectations, and slowly 414 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 5: but surely, the American economy and the American worker is 415 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 5: gaining back the ground that we lost during the Biden era. 416 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 5: I think Biden doug about a three thousand dollars hole 417 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 5: in living standards, and with the latest data, I think 418 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 5: the administration is saying we're up to about fifteen hundred 419 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 5: dollars back into the filling it back up, so that 420 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 5: means we're halfway there to where we're starting to really 421 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 5: feel that we're making progress again on the economy. And 422 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 5: so it's very important for the administration to highlight all 423 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 5: of this good economic news. I think President Trump has 424 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 5: been trying to do that in recent weeks, trying to 425 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 5: get the story back onto the economy. You notice that 426 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 5: he's not holding as many press conferences with foreign leaders, 427 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 5: for example, and the travel he's done in recent weeks 428 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 5: has emphasized affordability. He needs to keep that up through 429 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 5: the election. 430 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: He has also made the Secretary of the Treasury a 431 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: regular fixture on the Evening and News and the Sunday shows. 432 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: And I think Scott Besson deserves headline billing because he's 433 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: very good at this better than you know. I mean, 434 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 1: Williami Simon was pretty good, James Baker was very calm 435 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: and poised. I'm sure Hamilton was witty. But he is 436 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: our new Secretary of the Treasury, is a very funny man, 437 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 1: and he's got good news to tell. I think they 438 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: can't keep them out there enough. 439 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, this Secretary Beson's a great ambassador for the administration, 440 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,479 Speaker 5: and he made the rounds today with the latest inflation numbers. 441 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 5: You know, this has been the story of the Trump 442 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 5: presidency so far, is that the tariffs aren't showing up 443 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 5: in the overall inflation data, and so the economic cost 444 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 5: of the tariffs and the tariffs are attacks, so there's 445 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 5: always a cost is showing itself in other ways. And 446 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 5: so Secretary of Besting can say, look, inflation is lower 447 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 5: than expected, and meanwhile GDP growth is above expectations, quite 448 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 5: considerable growth coming out of the last quarter. And the 449 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 5: job a situation, the job picture in January was really 450 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 5: out of left field in terms of the jobs created. 451 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 5: And so that's a great story any administration wants to have. 452 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 5: Now it's not enough, i think for the midterms, because 453 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 5: if you recall, the economy was going gangbusters in twenty 454 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 5: eighteen as well, and in fact, at that time, the 455 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 5: economy was President Trump's best issue. He had high ratings 456 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 5: on the economy, which he does not enjoy today. But 457 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 5: in twenty eighteen, you had a growing economy, you had 458 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 5: Trump being rated very highly on the economy. The Democrats 459 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 5: still won the House of Representatives, so that's where that 460 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 5: second item in my list comes in a dramatic event. 461 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 5: Something that puts the Democrats on their heels and allows 462 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 5: Trump and the rep Republicans to display leadership and vision 463 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 5: late in the election is critical, I think for Republican 464 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 5: performance in the campaign. 465 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 1: Matt Contney, this will carry over into the break, So 466 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: I encourage everyone to go and listen to the Big 467 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: Weekend pod as well to hear the second part of this, 468 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: and then Matt will be buck on the other side. 469 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 2: Would you think that either one. 470 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: Or two retirements on the Supreme Court this June or 471 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: early July would or even announced earlier, would set the 472 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: Republicans up for an enthusiasm burst. You can't get a 473 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: higher one hundred percent turnout and the Democrats are there. 474 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: So what do you think a Supreme Court vacancy or 475 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: two would do for the GOP? 476 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 5: Well, I do think of vacancy and a fight over 477 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 5: the Supreme Court would be something that could mobilize Republican 478 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 5: voters in the fall and add to their enthusiasm. And 479 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 5: we have historical president for this. Again, I'll go back 480 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 5: to the twenty eighteen example, Hugh, the Kavanaugh hearings and 481 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 5: the way in which now Justice Kavanaugh was treated by 482 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 5: the mainstream media and buy the Democrats on the Senate 483 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 5: Judiciary Committee infuriated Republicans and to I think, really defend 484 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 5: Trump and go out and support Republican Senate candidates in 485 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 5: twenty eighteen, I think the Kavanar hearings are a reason 486 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 5: that Republicans held on to the Senate despite losing the 487 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 5: House in twenty eighteen. And so fight over the Constitution, 488 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 5: a fight over jurisprudence about what type of direction we 489 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 5: want the country to go in, that is something that 490 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 5: would galvanize Republican views. And it's a consideration I think politically, though, 491 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 5: I think the Justices make their decisions on different considerations. 492 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: Oh they do, and yeah, we don't know. And I'm 493 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 1: not saying they should go. It's up to two justices 494 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: and their spouses. But I'll be back with Matt Continentty 495 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 1: to talk about some sacred saws that can be added 496 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: to that during the burk. I'm back with Matt Continety 497 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: in the bridge segment between our two over the year segments. Matt, 498 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 1: I've been peddling the idea that if you really want 499 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: to make Democrats stand up and go crazy, President Trump 500 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 1: would nominate either for a retirement by Justice Thomas or 501 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: win by Justice Alito. 502 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 2: Eileen Cannon, the. 503 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 1: Astute judge from South Florida who ruled correctly that Jack 504 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: Smith had no constitutional warrant for the position he was in. 505 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: How do you think Democrats would respond to Judge Cannon's nomination? 506 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 5: Well, they go gaga. There's no question about that. I mean, 507 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 5: let's not forget the Democrats will pose any Supreme Court 508 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 5: nominee that President Trump throws up. And that's why people 509 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 5: should be wondering about the prospect of potential retirement among 510 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 5: a Republican appointed justice at the end of this term. 511 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 5: Because say that the election does go overwhelmingly in the Democrats' 512 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 5: direction and they win not just the House but also 513 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 5: the Senate. I happen to think Democratic victory in the 514 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 5: Senate is unlikely at the moment, but let's just say 515 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 5: it happens. Well, that means that President Trump will get 516 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 5: no Supreme Court appointments for the rest. 517 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 2: No judicial appointments, Matt, I don't. 518 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 5: Probably no cabinet appointments either, right right, it will stop. 519 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 5: So so that's a you know, that's a consideration. And 520 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 5: again I'm not sure that justice is thinking those terms, 521 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 5: and so as a Canon nomination I think would galvanize Republicans, 522 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 5: it would galvanize Democrats. Let's remember, you know, Judge Cannon 523 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 5: was also I think involved in striking down the Biden 524 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 5: vaccine mandate which was unconstitutional as well and the mask 525 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 5: the mask mandate on planes. So she has I think 526 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 5: of you, of freedom, individual liberty that many Conservatives would 527 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 5: support if she were nominated to the High Court. 528 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: And there are lots about Judge Strauss up there in 529 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: minnesot Cold Land. There's Mulsa Bar in Kentucky. There's David Hoe, 530 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: Judge Hoe down in Texas. There are a lot of 531 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: great first term Trump judges who have added six years 532 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: to their resumes on the Appeals Court bench. I'm just 533 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: toying with the Eileen Cannon, but any of them would 534 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: ignite the Republicans, I think because Democrats could I guess 535 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: there's a question, and I don't want to give you 536 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: an answer in the form of a question. Could the 537 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: Democrats resist the bait Matt and not trash a nominee. 538 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 5: No, no, you is the Democrats can't resist any bait 539 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 5: right now. I mean, look at what they're shutting down 540 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 5: the government again this weekend, even though ICE is already funded. 541 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 5: So we're having a second government shutdown, partial affected the 542 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 5: Department of Homeland Security, which just happens to include besides ICE, FEMA, 543 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 5: the Coast Guard, and the TEMP Transportation Security Authority TSA. 544 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 5: And the Democrats are doing it why because of their 545 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 5: left wing base. It's demanding resistance to Trump at all costs, 546 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 5: and that means taking grabbing any date that they see 547 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 5: before it. 548 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: We'd have code pink twenty four to seven throughout a 549 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: nomination process. And that's a promise, not a prediction. I'll 550 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: be right back when Matt Connetty stay tuned. Clargan back 551 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: in America. I'm huit joined by Matt Connetti. He had 552 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: AEI in the Wall Street Journal. Matt, time to turn 553 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: to Iran. I was talking with Eli Lake before you 554 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: joined us about how long the president has to settle debts, 555 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: and I think he is indebted to the people of Iran. 556 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 2: I think he made promises. 557 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: The Crown Prince of Iran was on this program Monday 558 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: and said President Trump promised help is on the way. 559 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: So unless they capitulate like Kaddafi did in two thousand 560 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: and three and four, and that would probably mean the 561 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: general's removing Hamini and someone something like that, which I 562 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: can't imagine. Trump has to hit them very, very hard, 563 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: or it's a shadow over his entire presidency. Do you 564 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: agree with that assessment? 565 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 5: Well, I do agree that if Trump fails to enforce 566 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 5: the red line that he drew, it will affect the 567 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 5: rest of his presidency, not just in the way that 568 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 5: we think about his presidential performance, but it will affect 569 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 5: the way that America's adversaries see President Trump see our 570 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 5: position in the world. You know, the deterrent is a 571 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 5: capability plus the will to use it. And if President 572 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 5: Trump ends up not having the will to use our 573 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 5: capabilities to enforce the lines he drew, that is, don't 574 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 5: kill your own people, stop enriching uranium, and limit your 575 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 5: ballistic missiles, and no longer support these terrorist proxies, then 576 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 5: it won't just be the Mullahs that take notice. It 577 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 5: will also be Vladimir Putin. It will also be Shi 578 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 5: Jimping in the People's Republic of China, Kim Jong Lunan 579 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 5: in North Korea. They'll all see an opportunity and they'll 580 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 5: begin to probe America's defenses. I think it's very important 581 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 5: that President Trump enforced the Redline, and I think what 582 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 5: we're seeing now, Hugh, is America moving our assets into position. 583 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 5: Kind of Remember, it's capability plus will. So if the 584 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 5: will is there, that means we have to have the capability, 585 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 5: not just the capability to strike Iran, but also the 586 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 5: capability to defend against a raring and retaliation. That takes time. 587 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 5: And we were having the second aircraft carrier now moving 588 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 5: to the Persian Gulf to the Arabian Sea. That will 589 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 5: take time. And in the meantime, of course, we're replenishing 590 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 5: our air defenses and putting other offensive platforms into the 591 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 5: region as well. So I think this will play out 592 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 5: over the coming weeks. President Trump this week said that, 593 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 5: you know, a month or so, that probably just around 594 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 5: the amount of time it takes for that second carrier, 595 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 5: which I believe is the Ford Carrier Group, the largest 596 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 5: carrier in the world, to get in place, and for 597 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 5: everyone there on board and in the affiliate vessels to 598 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 5: have operational readiness. 599 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 2: That's right. 600 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: Admiral Montgomery brought me up as a civilian this week. 601 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: He said, takes the two weeks after a carrier arrives 602 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,479 Speaker 1: on station to get operationally ready to do what they 603 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: really want to do if they can, if they have 604 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: the time to take. They want to take the time 605 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: to get ready. 606 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 2: So he said a month or. 607 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: So yesterday on Thursday, and I take that strategic confusion again. 608 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: He said everything, but he's also last question on I run. 609 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: I want to go to Japan and China. I think 610 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: what he's created are the conditions for what Admiral Montgomery 611 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: called strategic confusion, not ambiguity, but confusion. And we really 612 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: can't we really can't judge what he's done here until 613 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: it's over. And I'm going to stick to that point. 614 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: We don't really know if he's erased the redline or not, 615 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: or he's gone Obama or not until those ships are withdrawn. 616 00:33:58,600 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 2: I agree. 617 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 5: I agree that Trump always leaves his options open. Trump 618 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 5: would prefer a deal. He's asking things that this Iranian government, 619 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:13,760 Speaker 5: this deacratic dictatorship that has waged war against the United 620 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 5: States since it came to power in nineteen seventy nine, 621 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 5: they're not going to agree to it. And so the 622 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 5: moment of decision will come, but it might not come 623 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 5: for a few more weeks. 624 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 1: Did you play poker as a young man? Now, have 625 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 1: you ever played jack? So open trips to win. 626 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 5: I've played a few hands of poker, but I'm not 627 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 5: going to Blackjack is more my game. 628 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 2: Hugh, Well, Jackson opened, even though the odds. 629 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 5: Are against him blackjack, blackjack, I still prefer it poker 630 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:42,240 Speaker 5: for whatever reason. 631 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: Well so do I, and that's the only thing I 632 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 1: know how to play, So that's why I prefer it. 633 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: I'd lose at blackjack, but Jack's to open. The Iranians 634 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: don't have jacks. They don't have anything they can give 635 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: or their regime will collapse. And so either the generals, 636 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 1: I think it's really the generals do it, or we 637 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: do it now. Matt earlier today, John Ellis brought me 638 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: up to be on this. Japan sees a Chinese fishing 639 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: but within their exclusive economic zone. We do not have 640 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 1: a carrier in the South China Sea. We do have 641 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: a big deck. The Tripoli is there that George Washington 642 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 1: is in Yokuska. They're homeport in Japan, but they're not 643 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: patrolling right now. They were patrolling until December. Do you think, 644 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 1: I mean, what do you think is the worst case 645 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: scenario for China Japan right now. 646 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 5: Well, the worst case is always a conflict between these 647 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 5: two powers that would drag in the United States, obviously, 648 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 5: because of our very important alliance with Japan. You know, 649 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 5: the Chinese so called fishing fleets have been harassing our 650 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 5: allies for over a decade. What's interesting here is, you know, 651 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 5: the Japanese Prime Minister Hue Prime Minister Takeichi just had 652 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 5: a tremendous victory in the Japanese Parliament and has done 653 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 5: one of the largest majorities ever enjoyed by her party, 654 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 5: the ld which has been the ruling party of Japan 655 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 5: since the Second World War. And of course Takeichi is 656 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 5: disliked intensely by Beijing because she is a Japanese nationalist, 657 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 5: because she is a strong supporter of the Democratic governor 658 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 5: government in Taiwan, and because she believes that Japan needs 659 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 5: to re arm and expand its defenses. It already has defenses, 660 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 5: and we help with them. And so I wonder whether 661 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 5: this probing by the Chinese fishing vessel was a part 662 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 5: of a test of Takeiichi to kind of remind her. Interesting, 663 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 5: even though she has this tremendous political victory, that she 664 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 5: still has to watch out for the CCP. 665 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: I don't think she I think I'm not sure I 666 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 1: can call her Asia's Thatcher yet. But she is a 667 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 1: China Hawk, and I can't imagine that she's going to 668 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 1: go wildly do you imagine? I just don't see it happening. 669 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,839 Speaker 5: No, she's not you know Thatcher as an Iron Lady. 670 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 5: Takiichi is the Iron Maiden because she used to play 671 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 5: drums in a metal band. Oh, she's a fascinating Yes, 672 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 5: she's a fascinating figure. She spent time in the United States, 673 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 5: and you know she was a protege of Shinzo Abbe, 674 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,359 Speaker 5: who is very much in Shinzo Abbe's mold, someone who 675 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,800 Speaker 5: believes in Japan's power, strength, wants to re energize the 676 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 5: Japanese economy. And of course Abe had a tremendously important 677 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 5: relationship with Trump, and I think Takeiichi and Trump are 678 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 5: on the way to re establishing that type of personal 679 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 5: friendship that strengthens the alliance. 680 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: In the second watch that space. Wait the Iron Maiden 681 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: would be terrific. Wait the Iron Lady and the Iron Maiden. 682 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: That's a good one. Matt Conteney, thank you. As always 683 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,319 Speaker 1: follow Matt Tad continenty on Accent in the Wall Street 684 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 1: Journal and over at AEI and come right back here on. 685 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 2: The Huge Show. Hiight you, Hewett. 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I'm to hear it? 714 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: Joined by Ben dominic Is, the host of the Big 715 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 1: Ben Pod. And you ought to be listening to Big 716 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,800 Speaker 1: Ben Pod this week you would have heard is America? 717 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 1: Is Trump Losing America? And a long conversation about a 718 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: novel with a novelist, which I found very interesting, though 719 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 1: I don't read novels very often. Ben Dominicic, welcome. I 720 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 1: have a completely unexpected turn. Nobody expects the Spanish inquisition. 721 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 1: But Ben, when you show up, nobody but I know 722 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,720 Speaker 1: that I can ask you about sports? 723 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 2: Right? Are you an NBA fan? 724 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,879 Speaker 7: I am, but I paid more attention to basically once 725 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 7: the playoffs start, especially at this particular moment. I mean, 726 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 7: I'll wait for your question, but especially at this time 727 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 7: of year when you see so many teams tanking well 728 00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 7: this time of. 729 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 2: Year is also when you see teams going all in. 730 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,839 Speaker 1: And the Cavaliers, my club has been since they got 731 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: started in the seventies, they've only won once twenty sixteen, 732 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 1: been ten years, and they went all in, trading Darius 733 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 1: Garland for the Beard James Harden, and Cleveland is on fire. 734 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 2: Ben. 735 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 1: He made his home debut against the Wizards, the hapless 736 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,319 Speaker 1: Wizards who are thanking, and he's lit up the first 737 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 1: three games. And I just want to know what you 738 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: think of the Beard because Cleveland and I am now 739 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 1: in love with the guy and I've kind of all 740 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,879 Speaker 1: he's been a West guy mostly. He was with Philadelphia 741 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,680 Speaker 1: and Brooklyn for a while, but mostly it was thunder 742 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: and rockets and stuff like that. Now the Clippers, what 743 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 1: do you think of the Beard? 744 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 7: Well, first of all, I have to say it's a 745 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 7: bold statement to say Cleveland is on fire. I'm giving 746 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,800 Speaker 7: it some context. No, you went on fire. And the 747 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,280 Speaker 7: truth is I am actually a longtime fan of James Harden. 748 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:53,080 Speaker 7: Oh who is who I has gotten to see multiple times, 749 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 7: you know, in person, and look, the truth is that 750 00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 7: his limitation has always been a physical one and not 751 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 7: a mental one. He's a very smart player, and when 752 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 7: he wants to get going, he can get going. And 753 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 7: the real question is just whether you know he's able 754 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 7: to hold up once you get to the playoffs, because 755 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 7: I think that this is you know, look, this is 756 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 7: a moment where there's a lot of action in the 757 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 7: East and there's a lot of things that I think 758 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 7: that the you know, people frankly are disappointed in how 759 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 7: Orlando has turned out. They're disappointed, and you know a 760 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,399 Speaker 7: number of different clubs that they thought would be doing better. 761 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 7: And I think that, you know, this could be a 762 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 7: year where you have a team surprise and breakthrough. And 763 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 7: as for the Wizards, yes, they are definitely tanking, though 764 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 7: the Anthony Davis and Trey Young acquisitions are ones that 765 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 7: make me hopeful if they are able to stay healthy, 766 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 7: and that is an incredible heavy. 767 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,720 Speaker 1: If so that's when they when Darius Garland got traded, 768 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: everyone was saying, oh lucky, he's ten years younger than 769 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,359 Speaker 1: hard and maybe the young man doesn't play, he's hurt 770 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:54,760 Speaker 1: all the time because he's small. 771 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 7: You can't yeah, no, he's not. And you can't evaluate 772 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,400 Speaker 7: a player on hope. You know, I'm sure only had 773 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,760 Speaker 7: plenty of them come through in Washington who you evaluate 774 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,840 Speaker 7: that way, and you just have to at a certain 775 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 7: point you have to say, are we serious about this 776 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 7: or not? And so I like the hard and move 777 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 7: and I think that there is an opportunity here, perhaps 778 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 7: in the East to really, you know, make make some 779 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 7: noise in the year when certain places have underperformed expectation. 780 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,360 Speaker 1: So let me that's my first step on the diving 781 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,239 Speaker 1: board is step number two about sports. Cleveland is very 782 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 1: excited about this. The Guardians have got said, you know, 783 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 1: we have the Browns, and the Browns are disaster, but 784 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: they got a new coach. But they're very excited. And 785 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,520 Speaker 1: it brings me back to the Washington Post's decision to 786 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:40,759 Speaker 1: close their sports page. Now, if they really want to 787 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 1: reinvigorate the paper, they have to reverse that decision, don't they. 788 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I pay to Cleveland dot Com a ridiculous 789 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 1: am I remember about this for Fox News this week. 790 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:51,359 Speaker 2: I subscribe to them. 791 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 1: I get their verticals on the calves of the Browns, 792 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 1: Ohio State and the Guardians. The only way the Post 793 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,359 Speaker 1: can actually turn it around is to go heavy into 794 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 1: Washington DC sports. 795 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 2: There. They even have the University of Maryland in the 796 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:05,319 Speaker 2: Big Ten. 797 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 1: Now they've got George, they got hoops, they got UVA 798 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:12,240 Speaker 1: planning for maybe getting in James Madison looks like it's interesting. 799 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 1: What do you think then do they change their mind? 800 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 7: I think that there's I think there are two things 801 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,319 Speaker 7: that have to happen. One is I actually think they 802 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:23,399 Speaker 7: need to expand you mentioned James Madison. The Washington Post 803 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 7: is for years essentially treated anything that's outside of Northern 804 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 7: Virginia as if it's a foreign country. You know, they 805 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 7: didn't they didn't cover Virginia Tech as as much as 806 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 7: they should have. 807 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:32,319 Speaker 5: They don't. 808 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,400 Speaker 7: They'll cover what goes on with you know, when UVA 809 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 7: was something that was a little bit of an exception 810 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 7: because it's a basketball tem But the truth is that, 811 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 7: you know, when the jam you run was happening, they 812 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,719 Speaker 7: did almost nothing in terms of their coverage of it 813 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,760 Speaker 7: because they're more they were more addicted to these stories. 814 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 7: And and Andrew Styles over at the Free Beacon did 815 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,879 Speaker 7: a fantastic roundup of like of like twelve of them 816 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 7: that over the past couple of years that are just 817 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 7: ridiculous injections of politics into sports. So I think you 818 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,320 Speaker 7: have to step one is you have to expand you 819 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 7: have to cover these different teams that are outside of 820 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,839 Speaker 7: the of the Beltway area. But you also, I think, 821 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 7: have to be serious about we are in the business 822 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 7: of sporting news. We are talking about the games, we 823 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 7: were talking about the trades, we were talking about what's 824 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 7: going on. We are not using sports as a lens 825 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,840 Speaker 7: to look into the American psyche as it relates to 826 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,279 Speaker 7: gender and sex and raise. 827 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 2: They're doing fan service. They need to do fan service. 828 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,759 Speaker 7: That's and not the kind of fans who don't care 829 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 7: about sports, but they've basically been catering to for the 830 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 7: last several years. And it's why this decision was easy, 831 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 7: because essentially you're killing in an opinion section which is 832 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,400 Speaker 7: expensive to run, and that's something that I think that 833 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 7: they need to understand in order to move forward and look, 834 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 7: I think that that would be an enormous benefit to 835 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 7: the Posts and to having the paper set on a 836 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:56,080 Speaker 7: good role going forward. They need to appreciate how important 837 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,400 Speaker 7: this is. And I will say one more thing, and 838 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,840 Speaker 7: I say this with all due respect our British friends, 839 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,399 Speaker 7: there's been you know, a real importation from the UK, 840 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 7: including in the in the Post, you know, in terms 841 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,720 Speaker 7: of their in terms of their leading folks and across 842 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 7: media generally, a lot of folks have come over in 843 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,359 Speaker 7: the last couple of years. One thing that they don't 844 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,320 Speaker 7: get American sports. And that's something that I think that 845 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,239 Speaker 7: they don't quite rock as much as they ought to 846 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,920 Speaker 7: as something that was a centerpiece of American discourse. But 847 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,279 Speaker 7: they have to change the approach that has been used 848 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,800 Speaker 7: by these lefties who just wanted to I mean, I 849 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 7: don't know if you've seen this today, even Sarah Spain, 850 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 7: you know, going after jd Vance for you know, seeing him, 851 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,160 Speaker 7: just seeing him carrying his kid at the Olympics, and she's, oh, no, 852 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:38,960 Speaker 7: I didn't. 853 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,880 Speaker 2: I'm not reading the paper. I don't I don't subscribe 854 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 2: to that. 855 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:46,320 Speaker 7: Well that's that's she's doing it on X. But the 856 00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,440 Speaker 7: but the point is just that like those are the 857 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,920 Speaker 7: kind of people you've had covering sports. That doesn't make 858 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 7: sense anymore. You can't get away with that anymore. We're 859 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 7: not interested in it. The market has spoken, and you can't, 860 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,320 Speaker 7: you know, let them write a notpbed occasionally in the 861 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,799 Speaker 7: New York Times, which also is a lot of people 862 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 7: who don't really care about sports reading it and and 863 00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,680 Speaker 7: leave that leave the sports sections alone. When it comes 864 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 7: to Indian injecting this type of politics into literally every 865 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:12,799 Speaker 7: story you can. 866 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want them to go hire David Campbell, 867 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,720 Speaker 1: who's the Cleveland dot com sports editor and the genius. 868 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 1: But there are there got to be people around who 869 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,879 Speaker 1: know how to do sports journalism and do it well, 870 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:27,799 Speaker 1: because everybody I know in my world love sports, even 871 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:28,359 Speaker 1: if they're left. 872 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 7: You Lucas Tomlinson and my colleague and I text about 873 00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,759 Speaker 7: sports on a daily basis, and when it comes to 874 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 7: the Washington decisions and everything related all to the leagues, 875 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,480 Speaker 7: and you know, he's absolutely as die hard into this 876 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 7: as I am. And I'm sure that we would love 877 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,480 Speaker 7: to have an actual local section that was paying attention 878 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,640 Speaker 7: to things that mattered in terms of the franchisees as 879 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 7: opposed to, you know, again, injecting politics into every piece 880 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 7: of coverage that you possibly can. Leave them leave that 881 00:46:58,200 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 7: worldwide leader. 882 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 2: By the way, my triple. 883 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,800 Speaker 1: Jump off of the board now is to the Olympics 884 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 1: and it will take us into the break and we'll. 885 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 2: Talk about Iran afterwards. I have watched very. 886 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 1: Little Olympics because of one reason. There's too much Olympics 887 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,840 Speaker 1: I mean, they're everywhere broken into eight minute segments, and 888 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,839 Speaker 1: there's not NBC News primetime at seven pm you can 889 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 1: catch the most important events with. 890 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,920 Speaker 2: All the glitz. Do you think they killed the Olympics. 891 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:24,759 Speaker 1: I don't know what their viewership is like, but it's 892 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,479 Speaker 1: it's like a buffet course that is never ending. 893 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that there's there's a bit. It's just 894 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,719 Speaker 7: oversaturation and it's hard to cover all this, you know, 895 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,320 Speaker 7: to pay attention to all the storyline. I'll confess that 896 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:41,319 Speaker 7: because of the kid, the love of the little now 897 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 7: almost six week old, you know, I've paid less attention 898 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,400 Speaker 7: to this Olympics than I normally do. Because I like 899 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,400 Speaker 7: the Olympics. I think it's great to see America go 900 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 7: up into the Olympics and kick ass. But the thing 901 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,400 Speaker 7: that is the thing that I think is really you know, difficult, 902 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,440 Speaker 7: is you never really know what you're watching. It bounces 903 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,440 Speaker 7: around quite a lot, and I really wish that they 904 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,320 Speaker 7: would give it to us in a bit more of 905 00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,279 Speaker 7: a package where we would have, you know, something more 906 00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,800 Speaker 7: that we can that we can see and follow. I 907 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:11,760 Speaker 7: will say though, that the primary complaint against the Olympics 908 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,359 Speaker 7: was lodged by the five year old in the house 909 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,880 Speaker 7: who wanted to watch a movie or something, and my 910 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,239 Speaker 7: wife informed her that, know, in this house, we root 911 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,360 Speaker 7: for the United States of America. And so that's what 912 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:24,359 Speaker 7: happened for Mecca. 913 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:26,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a shared experience. 914 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,920 Speaker 1: It's a shared experience that most Americans like, but it's 915 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,840 Speaker 1: not a shared experience anymore when it's fragmented. So the 916 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:37,760 Speaker 1: shared experience of watching an ice skater fall or America 917 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,080 Speaker 1: win beat the Russians in nineteen eighty, that's not there. 918 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,719 Speaker 7: So I think just they made a huge program and 919 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:45,719 Speaker 7: if you have not seen it, you should watch this 920 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,839 Speaker 7: Netflix documentary on the on the nineteen eighty USA team 921 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:51,719 Speaker 7: because and this I think that they did a poor 922 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 7: job of advertising it, because it has a ton of 923 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,480 Speaker 7: new footage, of footage that has never been seen before 924 00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 7: of the game. And it's really just something that I 925 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,440 Speaker 7: think is is, you know, I recommend to everybody that 926 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,800 Speaker 7: I know to watch, even even just as a historical 927 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,920 Speaker 7: document and you know, you get different shots of Herb Brooks, 928 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,279 Speaker 7: you get different shots of you know, key plays that 929 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,000 Speaker 7: we're in it, and you look at that was obviously 930 00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,440 Speaker 7: an incredibly shared experience in America, as you as you had, 931 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,279 Speaker 7: you know, people able you know who did not know 932 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,520 Speaker 7: that it had happened learning about it, and so I 933 00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 7: think this is also just one of these uh, this 934 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,400 Speaker 7: is one of these eras where we have such an 935 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,560 Speaker 7: oversaturation of some of these things, often motivated by just 936 00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,480 Speaker 7: being able to do ad sales during them, as NBC 937 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:38,160 Speaker 7: has done quite successfully, and and that I think leads 938 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,440 Speaker 7: to some of that fragmentation that you're talking about. 939 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:42,840 Speaker 1: I'll be right back during the break with Ben Dominics. 940 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:44,880 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about the Big Ben podcast. The 941 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,399 Speaker 1: lead story, has Trump lost in America? I don't think 942 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,000 Speaker 1: some that will have been talked about that. We'll be 943 00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,399 Speaker 1: back on the other side and talk Aaron, So don't 944 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:52,440 Speaker 1: go anywhere they tuned to. 945 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,480 Speaker 2: The k Huge Shots. I'm back with Ben Dominic s. 946 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,960 Speaker 1: Ben, I thought you were opening at the Big Ben podcast, 947 00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,600 Speaker 1: which was very provocative this week, where you asked as 948 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,680 Speaker 1: president and Trump lost the country and then I watched 949 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,600 Speaker 1: him go down to Fort Bragg and get the enormous 950 00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:10,960 Speaker 1: reception that the commanders in chief got. I think he's 951 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,040 Speaker 1: lost belue America, but I don't think he's lost right. 952 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:15,200 Speaker 1: America is just a question he turns up in November. 953 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:16,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 954 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,879 Speaker 7: I think that the big question though Hugh is whether 955 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,120 Speaker 7: he is losing, and this is something where he got 956 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,759 Speaker 7: in good news today obviously on the inflation figures, whether 957 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,839 Speaker 7: he has lost the key portion of his coalition, which, 958 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,480 Speaker 7: as you know, is difficult to get to the polls 959 00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,480 Speaker 7: when it comes to mid terms of working class Americans. 960 00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,440 Speaker 7: I know that you probably saw if you have, If 961 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:40,120 Speaker 7: you haven't, who you will the AOC clip from Munich 962 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,920 Speaker 7: where she's talking about so today, you know, she went 963 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:45,120 Speaker 7: to Munich, which is interesting. 964 00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,080 Speaker 2: So she's running for president. She's running. 965 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,360 Speaker 7: It's another sign as I think she's running for president. 966 00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,440 Speaker 7: She's not running for Senate. She's running for president, and 967 00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,800 Speaker 7: that I think is But one of the things that 968 00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:59,759 Speaker 7: she started leading with was about having a coalition that 969 00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:03,120 Speaker 7: they basically it sounds like half Hillary Clinton on one 970 00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,839 Speaker 7: hand when it comes to the Globe and then half 971 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:10,120 Speaker 7: at home mom Donnie and basically you know, affordability. We 972 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,560 Speaker 7: need to be this working class coalition, warrying warrying about 973 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,960 Speaker 7: oligarchs by the way to Munich, which is pretty funny, 974 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,759 Speaker 7: and and then and saying that we needed She was 975 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,279 Speaker 7: asked by one of the people there about whether we 976 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:24,880 Speaker 7: ought to have a wealth tax, and she said that 977 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:29,560 Speaker 7: needs to be a priority. That kind of language is 978 00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:34,319 Speaker 7: actually what upper crust sort of lefties think is an 979 00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,799 Speaker 7: affordability message. It's not an actual affordability message. And if 980 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,640 Speaker 7: you look consistently the kind of reports that were coming 981 00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:45,440 Speaker 7: out after November of last year from from the you know, 982 00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:49,480 Speaker 7: the different Democrat super packs, they all indicated that basically, 983 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 7: what people want to hear within that demo, which again 984 00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,880 Speaker 7: went for Donald Trump and went in mass and delivered 985 00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 7: a big victory for him, what they want to hear 986 00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,399 Speaker 7: about is affordability. They feel like things should have gotten 987 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,920 Speaker 7: cheaper since he got back into office, and they and 988 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,160 Speaker 7: they care about those things as a priority. They don't 989 00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,280 Speaker 7: really care about hearing about the you know how insulting 990 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,960 Speaker 7: it is. She she went after the Trump administration, for instance, 991 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,919 Speaker 7: for forgetting Maduro, describing it as kidnapping a head of state, 992 00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:20,960 Speaker 7: which I mean, actually quite the stretch. But I think 993 00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,880 Speaker 7: that this is the situation where again she's running for president. 994 00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:25,600 Speaker 7: Put that in your calci bet now. 995 00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,120 Speaker 1: But I think let me ask you that have you 996 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,920 Speaker 1: ever heard her give a serious interview on national security? 997 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,080 Speaker 7: I have never heard once, of course not and and 998 00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,560 Speaker 7: she's treated by kid gloves, you know, she in terms 999 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:38,960 Speaker 7: of the way that the media acts towards her, and 1000 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:40,960 Speaker 7: I think we have to expect that that will continue. 1001 00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,400 Speaker 7: And so look, you are going to end up with 1002 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,920 Speaker 7: the situation here where the President could lose a significant 1003 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,840 Speaker 7: portion of his coalition that the Republican Party needs to 1004 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:53,800 Speaker 7: show up in order to have a competitive November. Otherwise 1005 00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,720 Speaker 7: they get swamped. The Democrats take at least the House 1006 00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,320 Speaker 7: and they just turn the next two years into a 1007 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,280 Speaker 7: complete craft show of investigations and impeachments. 1008 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,319 Speaker 1: Well, that's going to happen. I think we're gonna lose 1009 00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:05,960 Speaker 1: the House. But I'll come back on the other side 1010 00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:07,480 Speaker 1: with Ben, and we're going to talk about how did 1011 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:08,839 Speaker 1: the Republicans chiefs turn out? 1012 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:13,800 Speaker 2: Standby Welcome Back in America. 1013 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:18,080 Speaker 1: I'm Hugh Hewitt, and I'm temporarily stunned because during the break, 1014 00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,880 Speaker 1: Ben Dominic's told me that AOC went to the Munich 1015 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:25,160 Speaker 1: Security Conference, which is with the Reagan Defense Conference and 1016 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:29,320 Speaker 1: the Halifax Conference, the big three national security conferences around 1017 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:33,360 Speaker 1: the country. The Nixon Foundation does one as well in DC, 1018 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:37,040 Speaker 1: but the one up in Halifax out west in Munich. 1019 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,759 Speaker 1: They're the Big three and I can't imagine AOC at 1020 00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:44,959 Speaker 1: a security conference. Ben just explain to our Steelers fans 1021 00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:46,800 Speaker 1: what that means, because I agree. 1022 00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:47,440 Speaker 3: With you what it means. 1023 00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,920 Speaker 7: What it means is that AOC wants the attention of 1024 00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,759 Speaker 7: the world. And the way that she framed herself by 1025 00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:59,360 Speaker 7: the way to this global audience was essentially as someone 1026 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,560 Speaker 7: not who didn't want to tear down the system, but 1027 00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:06,600 Speaker 7: kind of restore an older system of of you know, 1028 00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:12,000 Speaker 7: using using all the normal catchphrases of global order and 1029 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:16,200 Speaker 7: the like. She basically depicted the Trump administration as agents 1030 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:20,120 Speaker 7: of chaos when it came to the global affairs, particularly 1031 00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,960 Speaker 7: in our own hemisphere, you know, citing the Greenland example, 1032 00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,120 Speaker 7: citing the Venezuela example, you know, citing you know, some 1033 00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,120 Speaker 7: of this other you know, saber rattling and the like. 1034 00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,879 Speaker 7: What what she really means, of course, when she says 1035 00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,440 Speaker 7: something like that is she wants to China run global 1036 00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,680 Speaker 7: order in my opinion, but that's just my opinion. The 1037 00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:39,920 Speaker 7: thing is, I think that when she goes on to 1038 00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,560 Speaker 7: a stage like that, she knows she's going to be 1039 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,520 Speaker 7: treated with kids loves, by the by the international folks, 1040 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,239 Speaker 7: they're not going to be judging her right off the bat, 1041 00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,640 Speaker 7: and she can basically give this message as one where 1042 00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,760 Speaker 7: you know, again she is depending on which polling numbers 1043 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,960 Speaker 7: you look at, she's third currently in terms of the 1044 00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:02,560 Speaker 7: ranking of the Democratic potential presidential candidate. You can debate 1045 00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,480 Speaker 7: about where she is, but she's definitely third, with Newsom 1046 00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,319 Speaker 7: and of course Kamala Harris hanging around as one and two, 1047 00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,359 Speaker 7: depending on the ployee that you're looking at. I think 1048 00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,240 Speaker 7: she is fully intend to run for president. 1049 00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:14,040 Speaker 5: I think she wants to. 1050 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:18,239 Speaker 7: Depict herself as being this future is female candidate, but 1051 00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,160 Speaker 7: from a younger generation. And I think that she wants 1052 00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:25,160 Speaker 7: to basically become someone who could go up against the vance. 1053 00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,239 Speaker 7: I mean Rubio was there as well this year, of course, 1054 00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:29,800 Speaker 7: go up against you know, potentially a Rubo and depict 1055 00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,960 Speaker 7: them as being chaotic figures, where she's a return to 1056 00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,759 Speaker 7: normalcy on the international level. And that's a savvy political move. 1057 00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:37,719 Speaker 7: I think it's the kind of. 1058 00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:41,399 Speaker 1: There's no downside to her running for president, there's none. 1059 00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:43,879 Speaker 1: She doesn't she didn't get stuck in the Senate where 1060 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,640 Speaker 1: she's one hundred out of one hundred. She gets either 1061 00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,120 Speaker 1: she gets it the brass ring, or she makes a 1062 00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:52,279 Speaker 1: gazillion dollars and she becomes her own thing. So there's 1063 00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,279 Speaker 1: no downside to it. It's almost inevitable that she runs. 1064 00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,080 Speaker 1: And I think she's going to win because she got 1065 00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,320 Speaker 1: chops on stage and the President has said to me 1066 00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,640 Speaker 1: on the show, Oh, she's got a lot of sparkle. 1067 00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:03,320 Speaker 1: But we'll have to see how she does in an interview. 1068 00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,239 Speaker 1: She does not do interviews, Ben, and I don't know 1069 00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,760 Speaker 1: whether or not she can do the comments. 1070 00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,440 Speaker 7: I don't think require her to do it. I think 1071 00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,560 Speaker 7: she's going to skate. And this is the thing that's 1072 00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:16,160 Speaker 7: you know, happens so frequently with her. Again, she represents 1073 00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:19,280 Speaker 7: herself as being this candidate who appeals to the working class, 1074 00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,800 Speaker 7: and you can't think of a less working class friendly 1075 00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,359 Speaker 7: policy than something like the Green New Deal. I mean, 1076 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,520 Speaker 7: that's just it's a complete opposite. And yet she never 1077 00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,520 Speaker 7: gets asked about that. The idea that she is going 1078 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,400 Speaker 7: is going to skate into this role is something that 1079 00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,759 Speaker 7: I certainly believe, and I would be scared if I 1080 00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,239 Speaker 7: was Gavin Newsome that she could have the kind of 1081 00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:44,480 Speaker 7: of inspiring appeal that he is, This kind of slick California, 1082 00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,719 Speaker 7: you know, Silicon Valley back, you know Reid Hoffman backed 1083 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,200 Speaker 7: candidate or something like that. You know, is going to 1084 00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,680 Speaker 7: seem like She's going to make him seem like the corporatist, 1085 00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:57,640 Speaker 7: you know, billionaire friend much older, Yeah, much older. And 1086 00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,279 Speaker 7: I think that that's something that has real resonance in 1087 00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:05,040 Speaker 7: in America, where you know, no offense view that the 1088 00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,560 Speaker 7: millennials are in charge right now, you know we are. 1089 00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,040 Speaker 1: You know, we're going to skip right past these Actually 1090 00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:13,600 Speaker 1: you cannot offend me because I'm seventy. I know what happens, 1091 00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:17,080 Speaker 1: and I'm looking at Gavin, and Gavin's on my side 1092 00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:17,840 Speaker 1: of the divide. 1093 00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:19,720 Speaker 2: He's not on your side of the divide. 1094 00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,360 Speaker 7: Well, but again, I maintain the most gen x thing 1095 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,000 Speaker 7: that ever happened is to not have a president like 1096 00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,440 Speaker 7: we looked around and we decided, nah, I will not 1097 00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:32,520 Speaker 7: do that. So it's the thing that I think is 1098 00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,880 Speaker 7: going to be very interesting going forward. Look at the 1099 00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,040 Speaker 7: way that she is covered versus the way that JD 1100 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:42,400 Speaker 7: dances covered, because they are essentially I think that they 1101 00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:43,760 Speaker 7: are headed on a collision course. 1102 00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,200 Speaker 1: And I think, now I've been talking about I got 1103 00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,040 Speaker 1: to get this in because I've been talking about Iran 1104 00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:49,920 Speaker 1: with Matt Contenenny and Eli Lake. 1105 00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:51,120 Speaker 2: I don't have to cover it with you, but I 1106 00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:51,960 Speaker 2: do want to cover with you. 1107 00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,480 Speaker 1: Takaichi the new prime minister who just went overwhelmingly a 1108 00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,360 Speaker 1: week ago huge majority in the DAT in Japan, and 1109 00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:02,120 Speaker 1: today her security forces went out and nabbed the Chinese 1110 00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:06,440 Speaker 1: fishing vessel inside their exclusive economic zone. It's a Conney 1111 00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,439 Speaker 1: says we should call her the Iron Maiden. I said, 1112 00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:12,040 Speaker 1: maybe she'll be Asia's Asia's Thatcher, and Kantene said, no, 1113 00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,320 Speaker 1: she's the Iron Maiden, not the Iron Lady, because I 1114 00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,880 Speaker 1: didn't know she was in a heavy metal band. What 1115 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:18,400 Speaker 1: do you think of her and what do you think 1116 00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,120 Speaker 1: of this this crisis in the South China Sea. 1117 00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:23,320 Speaker 7: I think that this is going to be a real 1118 00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,200 Speaker 7: test for us in terms of the alliances that we 1119 00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,800 Speaker 7: have in the region, and it could be something that 1120 00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,720 Speaker 7: could spawn I mean, it's very rare that something like 1121 00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:37,680 Speaker 7: this happens without after action, after effect Domino's falling. I'll 1122 00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:39,840 Speaker 7: be curious to see how she handles it. I do 1123 00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,520 Speaker 7: think that you know, she's someone to watch, but you know, 1124 00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,320 Speaker 7: in an era when we have seen so much praise 1125 00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:50,960 Speaker 7: directed at UH directed at North Korea of all places, 1126 00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,520 Speaker 7: for having a female air name. That was a big 1127 00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,400 Speaker 7: trend among a lefty twitter. Why can't we have a 1128 00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,720 Speaker 7: female air named You know, here in the United States, 1129 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,760 Speaker 7: don't people look to you know, women politicians who are 1130 00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,080 Speaker 7: actually good at what they're doing. You know, why don't 1131 00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:06,240 Speaker 7: Why don't she serious? 1132 00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,600 Speaker 1: And we just talked about AOC not doing any national 1133 00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:11,800 Speaker 1: security interviews. Ever, she that's what she made her bones on. 1134 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:12,880 Speaker 1: She's a China Hawk. 1135 00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:15,480 Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, And I think that this is I mean, 1136 00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:18,680 Speaker 7: this is obviously a test case. But the truth is 1137 00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,800 Speaker 7: that we we should be applauding this in the West 1138 00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:24,520 Speaker 7: in terms of having someone in that job who understands 1139 00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,920 Speaker 7: the real threat that China represents and is not too 1140 00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:30,520 Speaker 7: scared to confront it. But look, you know, these these 1141 00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,080 Speaker 7: are the kind of questions I would like to see 1142 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,000 Speaker 7: AOC asking, as opposed to should we have a wealth tax? 1143 00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,720 Speaker 1: You know, we asked AOC if we asked her what 1144 00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,880 Speaker 1: the Hunan Island incident was, would she have a clue? 1145 00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:42,800 Speaker 2: Do you think she'd have a clue? 1146 00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:47,920 Speaker 7: You know, I don't. I'm not a big fan of, 1147 00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:51,160 Speaker 7: like of basic tests in order to run for office 1148 00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:54,280 Speaker 7: or to get that job. But I kind of wish 1149 00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,520 Speaker 7: that we made all of the all of the you know, 1150 00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,640 Speaker 7: folks who did this do some form of political jeopardy 1151 01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:05,760 Speaker 7: just for the sake of just, oh, you know, where 1152 01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:07,240 Speaker 7: do you you know? What part of the world do 1153 01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,600 Speaker 7: you think? You know? Afghanistan is in? How about that? 1154 01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:10,880 Speaker 7: To start with? 1155 01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:13,160 Speaker 1: I don't I don't believe in gotcha's, but I do 1156 01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:16,760 Speaker 1: believe that before you become president. And you know, famously, 1157 01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,640 Speaker 1: Donald Trump told me he know more about terrorists on 1158 01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:21,960 Speaker 1: day one when he became president, and I didn't. Sure enough, 1159 01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,160 Speaker 1: he took it out more. He's taken out more terrorists 1160 01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,120 Speaker 1: than any other president on one on one basis. 1161 01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:26,720 Speaker 2: He doesn't. 1162 01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,640 Speaker 1: But I I just wonder if she doesn't really have 1163 01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,360 Speaker 1: any kind of evidence, any kind of grasp of the 1164 01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:36,680 Speaker 1: complexity of what she aspires to speak on it. 1165 01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,400 Speaker 2: You know, there's some humility in its a real problem. 1166 01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:41,480 Speaker 7: I think it's a real problem. But I think that 1167 01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,920 Speaker 7: the other problem that we need to understand is she 1168 01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,640 Speaker 7: has a political career that is built on vibes and 1169 01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:51,240 Speaker 7: social media that works in this era. It's going to 1170 01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:53,160 Speaker 7: raise a ton of money for She's going to have 1171 01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,840 Speaker 7: a ton of energy, and I think that Republicans should 1172 01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,640 Speaker 7: not underestimate her. And that's you know, something that we've 1173 01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:02,400 Speaker 7: seen happened four where they thought that certain people could 1174 01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:04,800 Speaker 7: come up. I mean, I remember the talk about Barack Obama. 1175 01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:06,320 Speaker 7: How are they gonna k oh, yeah. 1176 01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:09,600 Speaker 2: I'm guilty, guilty, guilty, guilty, and well well but. 1177 01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,120 Speaker 7: See, I think at the time you can defend yourself 1178 01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:15,640 Speaker 7: because that seemed like a very unlikely scenario. But sometimes 1179 01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:19,439 Speaker 7: the nation is a couple of rungs ahead I guess, 1180 01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:22,800 Speaker 7: or a couple of months behind where you think they are, 1181 01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:26,320 Speaker 7: and they are very vulnerable in an era like think 1182 01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:28,880 Speaker 7: about it this way, in an era in which education 1183 01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:32,760 Speaker 7: scores have plummeted. Not everybody's Mississippi, Hugh, And I say, 1184 01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:34,800 Speaker 7: that's a proud a child with Mississippi. 1185 01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:37,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree. 1186 01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,680 Speaker 1: I was in the Qweight Center when Obama gave his 1187 01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:41,680 Speaker 1: speech in two thousand and four, and I was impressed, 1188 01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:44,160 Speaker 1: but I wasn't thinking he could be president. So that 1189 01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:46,920 Speaker 1: just tells you what four years can do. But he 1190 01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:48,760 Speaker 1: also is a Harvard log guy, and she has not 1191 01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:51,360 Speaker 1: well Ben dominant. She's given us a lot to think about. 1192 01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:53,880 Speaker 1: Follow Ben a be dominant on X Listen to the 1193 01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,600 Speaker 1: Big Ben podcast you hear most Fridays when we are lucky. 1194 01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:57,320 Speaker 2: Thank you, Ben,